#competitive_discussion
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you can't use unleveled echoes for exp too
yea so they need to omega buff tacet field drops and also just reduce normal boss, tacet field and the skill/weapon mat dungeons to use less energy too
60 and 40s is too steep
barely get much progression over time
yeah I already went through most of my Solvent
I still have all of mine
Since they mentioned we're getting possible double tacet field drop next update
If 1.1 flops I'll just send my account to my friend
Bruh
I mean
I c6 r5 everything in genshin up til raiden shogun and dropped the game
I don't suffer sunk cost fallacy like most genshin players do
I did the same for honkai impact 3rd
I did the same to a lot of gachas
I plan to drop epic seven once my guild completely dies
Cause my mentality is I already had my fun with it
Nothing to feel bad about
It's just how gachas is overall
Plus I make more than that in a day anyways
I think by far the most I spent is in genshin if we compare the lifetime I played in a gacha
Even epic seven and fgo that I played for longer than genshin hasn't reached to how much I spent in Genshin
Koraidon surely :copium:
haha
It's probably shadowrex
id be very surprised if it even made top 8
Or maybe icerex
Yea probably so
doesnt mean ppl cant do well w/ it still
Ig it really depends on the majority people use
Maybe terapagos will take no 1 for most used day 1

maybe
Pagos/Shadowrex
i think csr/cir/turtle will prolly b top 3 day 1
Another shadowrex win would be cool 
maybe miraidon in there
Only caue HOPagos has neutral/positive matchups into everything including Caly/Clef
yea
https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1248447767659937843 just incase, sorry fo the interruption
I don’t think it will do that well

thats fair
off topic a bit but is support mane becoming prominent?
its around
It’s been the main Mane
thats kinda wild
Specs/Sash are mostly seen in Sun
I want to expirement with more mon tbh
ngl I havent like sun as much as i thought i would
Its more difficult to pilot imo
margin for error is a slot slimmer now
That’s a given
yeah
Its why people need to stick w it from the beginning cause its easier then than now
The basics are the same
is nasty plot better then calm mind?

does 252 252 4 work with calm mind as well or do I want some bulk for it
Bulk
gotcha
Ill just pass you mine lol
please do
Repost due to error
I've played a lot of CSR mirrors this month using this:
You wanna win the mirror? Fake Out the Ghost-Type.
im making some tweaks to the wolfey team for some stuff i prefer
makes things harder to pilot which was the point
funni buttons go brrr
nvm these were the changes I wanted lmao
I would consider taunt over will o wisp for me personally
also single restricted. i think things ofc change wen we are allowed 2. 1 is brutal in a lot of ways
I miss reg B 😔
series b was fun
right mix of more complex and a bit eaiser imo
im ngl I dont know how to pilot this balance team effectively
kinda wanna see korai or kyogre win tbh-
if it’s a niche legend then even better (so smth like mewtwo or lugia-)
but like-
knowing-
ppl-
it’s gonna be one of the caly riders, the bikes, or a weather trio
koraidon or kyogre would be interesting
unfortunately dont see a world lugia or mewtwo win
id be impressed if someone could even day 2 w/ mewtwo at naic
thats an achievement in itself
You know what should be a challenge
To run IncinBoom but you’re not allowed to use Fake Out

Just to teach alternative plays
if only cts
i love incin/urshi/rilla core but its been a bit since ive run em all together
def good to change it up
👀
them and bolt prolly top 4 day 1 and 2 useage
Well tbf I already did not run Incin/Boom/Urshi
yea i didnt think u did really
Tofu, I'm bullying Red

how many calm minds do you usually do in a match?
intersting
yeah thats fair
Most of the time thanks to Clef you can guarantee one
Sometiems I just HH Astral Barrage
Its up to you to identify when and how many CMs you can do
I hope you remember yesterdays games where you didnt Calm Mind or you Calm Mind too many times
good as gold doesnt stop stat drops right?
It doesn’t
I do not but thats because I have a really hard time remembering games specifically
If you try to greed for Calm Minds and end up too low of an HP to actually benefit then that’s the same thing as not getting Calm Minds
fair
And if you dont CM in scenarios you should be leaning on it
Your board states become more precarious
yeah I have to learn the difference in scenarios
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138560053 did i do good here? I feel like it couldve gone better for me
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between agazal and ototswampert! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: Jun 7, 2024
i think t7 i shouldve attacked shifu
Lol Turn 5 was the easiest Tera + Attack Urshifu
You had Shadow Shield
Or if you didnt want to Tera was to Moongeist anyways
Or if you figured it was choice’d was to get rid of Tornadus first since then yoh can just wall Urshifu
Yeah I knew it was stuck into CC, and I now realise I could’ve just killed it
Would have been helpful
No way! Maybe I am getting better! I'm feeling able of predicting what my opponents going to do.
So I currently have
`Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Discharge
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Volt Switch
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Protect
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon @ Life Orb
Ability: Mind's Eye
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blood Moon
- Earth Power
- Hyper Voice
- Protect `
for my Miraidon team but idk what else to run.
farig
Is it to imprison against trick room?
That and armor tail utility gives you alot of pressure
Oh yeah armor tail beats priority
usually miraidon teams have tailwind and tr so you can volt switch out with miraidon, set up tr for ursaluna and then sweep with miraidon once tr is over
That's just really confusing
then set up tailwind i guess and farig is just there to guard against priority
It could work, probably still give it trick room to help out by canceling opponents TR.
yeah no need to run imprison when you can use tr on the same turn
Rather than predictions, I encourage identifying covers/safe plays. Hard reads usually mean you’re in a bad spot you need to aggressively play to get out of
You seem to have a pretty big ice weakness with whim, miraidon and Ursaluna. Might wanna tru and run a Calyrex-Ice counter, someone with wide guard maybe?
You’re still slower than a majority of regular mons despite the Spe investment
If you want to play Miraidon
My Indianapolis Top 8 team report is up!
Miraidon was mostly overlooked before this tournament, so I wanted to cover the teambuilding process from start to finish. I hope you enjoy the article and timeline!
You should be reading thjs
The team deals with CIR fine
Weaknesses are beyond just typings. It’s why I say coverage is sometimes unnecessary and also another teambuilding trap
Having an overarching executable gameplan is far more important
That's why I specified a specific threat that'd be an issue rather then type as a hole, worder poorly ig.
I would also watch reruns of the Indianapolis Regionals to gain more insight, particularly the finals as well @tiny holly
Yo! Ditto big brain plays lol that's so cool.
Yes, but since the two are pretty interlinked, the MU is a given
Yep
Which comes back to still having a gameplan into CIR outdoes your inherent weaknesses
Indianapolis’ winning team was a Miraidon team and this is coming hot off when people thought CIR is the most consistent Restricted
Ground/Normal
Mind's Eye
113/70/120/135/65/52
555
Ursaluna
Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Counter, Cross Chop, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Fury Cutter, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headlong Rush, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Ice Punch, Lick, Low Kick, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Payback, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Scratch, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze
Blood Moon, Earth Power, Focus Blast, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Mud Shot, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Vacuum Wave
Belly Drum, Calm Mind, Endure, Fake Tears, Harden, Helping Hand, Leer, Moonlight, Play Nice, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Taunt, Yawn
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ursaluna-Bloodmoon.
This picture goes insane holy
Team reports are an art form and I love them
Factual
I write for my own teams since it’s fun and overall, team reports give the insight and process to teambuilding which is a difficult skill to build upon without direction
True , I listen to analysis videos alot when doing things.
Yoooo they give ditto the choice Scarf to get around speed tie that's actually so smart, thats awesome.
well yeah more than have of used dittos use it
Never occurred to me for some reason though I don't think about ditto often lol
Still reading currently. Sadly I don't really have anyone to really test against on showdown and improve whatever team I end up making.
But good idea
managed to hit GXE wanted, now i just gotta keep it up till 1500
i return
Ladder
You run the ladder
Showdown ladder or SV Ladder
Either or. Showdown is just resourceless
I'll probably do it on showdown in case I end up not liking the team
Showdown tends to have more quality matches anyways earlier
I do plan on building whatever team I decide upon in Violet after I get it into a more finalized state.
fair
How good is this Chi-yu set
Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Snarl
- Overheat
i always misread tera shift as tera shit lmao
generally chi-yu wants ghost tera to avoid fake out
Makes sense.
My brain did bad logic twice
Tera Grass or Tera Steel would of been what I used.
I switched it over to tera ghost.
What about the moves though
moves look standard
I mostly want to use it to nuke calyrex
be aware that calyrex usually runs clefairy next to it
Can gamefreak just not bring back calyrex ever again?
spread moves are good to deal with caly clef
you could also run tera ground chi-yu next to discharge miraidon
I should just run choice scarf ditto
Nah calyrex is a real one me and them go way back
I probably should just wait until next game to do any sort of ladder stuff in vgc.
Just so I don't have to deal with a restricted format
I really want to make a team and play in game without having to deal with calyrex players dropping multiple nukes on me.
Restricteds fun it's just abit harder to start with.
Yeah I get that restricted legendaries can be fun to use. I just want a format that doesn't just have one pokemon that is so broken it is calyrex shadow rider.
There really good yeah, but I wouldn't go so far as to say there broken. Theye have counters that alot of mons can fulfill.
All I can really think of is like trick room or something
They die from a sucker punch from anything with a decent atk stat wich I find funny
Ofcourse they can play around that themselves but that's kinda what the whole games about.
If it tera fairies I literally can't do anything against it if it has proper support.
By support do you mean clefairy? Taunting clefairy is always valid if you can bonk them.
The one I played against used fake out spamming rillaboom and incineroar.
I mean fake out only works first turn in, it's not super hard to play against. Especially with say Farigiraf.
I think in any given Pokemon game
There will always be something that is perceived as broken
I bealive Psychic terrain also shuts it down? Tofu you smart it shuts down fake out yeah?
If this was Reg A, people would be complaining about Expanding Force and Gholdengo
Psy Terrain, Armor Tail, clicking Protect
i didn't believe it when there were those youtube videos saying caly-s was washed, it seemed like clickbait at the time
If VGC is of genuine interest, I would just insist people grit their teeth and play through the difficult aspect since the hardest part is knowledge
And the second hardest part is throwing out your pre-conceived notions
Calling something broken to me is almost always an excuse to not better yourself
“It’s broken, so it doesn’t matter what I do”
I do understand why people don't like restricted formats. Two restricted mons I'm not fond of but one just feels right ig.
I really enjoy singular restricted format
Its the most difficult time to get into a generation.
But it also brings the most value
If you can learn and find your ground in Restricted format
You’ll do better in lower powered formats in the future
It’s an investment
VGC, imo, is the wrong hobby to get into if you want short term enjoyment
Cause you won’t have enough time to appreciate all the facets of it
Some people don't find alot of succes in throwing themselves in the deep end though, wich is just a form of different learning styles.
Which is fine
It’s just unfortunate
But there are also other methods of learning that doesn’t involve playing
Replay reviews, VODs, article reading, sitting in discussions
Playing is just a matter of execution
I think both mindsets are perfectly understandable. Just depends on the person, do what works best for you.
The worst kind of players are the ones who don’t know what they’re talking about yet have the gall to debate with misinformation
The only thing I hate about certain restricted formats is pokemon like Shadow rider are completely un obtainable unless A: you dump 80$ B: Beg on the gts (possibly will reacive a hacked pokemon with sucks.) Or C: get alittle devious.
Yes, accessibility is an issue
money to go and actually compete in tournaments is a lot too
Especially If you don't already live in a huge area.
i wonder how much drago spent to go to naic
I would say that is more grey area
Online entry would be nice
I think it’s a privilege/luxury to be able to dedicate the time to play and compete at video games just like any event one has to play/compete/practice jn
And this is coming from the person who absolutely cannot compete even if the stars aligned
Online is also just a very different vibe compared to an in-person event
Depends on where you live but travel expenses can be so damn high, that it makes VGC even harder to get into wich making a community more locked down is never a good thing to me.
It’s still a luxury/privilege. Online community overall is very alive
there's always online tournaments
I understand something like worlds being very exclusive, but having to spend hundreds to go from place to place (like if you don't have a local card store or something along those lines you're probably completely screwed out of getting to do anything in person.)
I figured you meant Regional level events. I have no comment on Locals
Like in my area, there's absolutely nothing. It's rather disheartening, and while online is all well and good. Nothing can really beat personal interaction and forming those relationships.
I feel like this matchup is such a good example of how having knowledge of the game can completely win you a battle.
I have to make do with purely online interactions. The option to even consider travelling doesn’t exist to me
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between naginii and sinclaires! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: Jun 7, 2024
That’s a favourable matchup for Terapagos. Good Rocky Helmet + RP.
Yeah that's why I got rid of incineroar in favor of valcarona. I had nothing other then clefairy that could tank a close combat lol
I fear no man, but terapagos scares me.
tofu if you could compete you'd win every regional you played in lmao
Wolfe glick might have a thing or two to say about that lol 😆
yeah but wolfie is built different
I just realized with that battle I got past my 1550 wall lol
congrats
I do think I would be drowning alot harder if I didnt start in low power format tbh
Nah
I'm not some god at the game
I just work hard lol
I appreciate the vote of confidence though
I started playing competitively stsrt of sword and shield. And just got hooked lol
Same. I didn't want to waste my 50 bucks
I finished SwSh, started competitive on a whim cause I remember seeing a meme about it
Basically started with a trick room team of butterfree dusclops, torkoal, rhyperior, hatterene, indeedee lol and got top 200 on ladder after hundreds of battles lol
I started about 6 weeks ago 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The main reason I also help out and advise is because there was never a Tofu for Tofu
I self-taught everything
Til now
I watched a ton of cybertron and wolfey and regionals and such
It's difficult when there wasn't things like VGCPastes or VGCguide
Have they even been updating vgcguide much at all?
what is there too update?
No, but the point of VGCguide is the fundamentals of it
Regardless of where you start, where you play
The fundamentals are almost always consistent
I remember when they launched it thought it was going to be basically a better version of victoryroad lol
its different
That's why I keep talking about consistency and focusing on building good habits beyond just looking at the Pokemon and current stuff
Teach a man to fish yadda yadda
I miss the team write ups for victory road
Break down and talk about how a team was built why they chose each pokemon what the trial and errors were.
Articles are a lost art
It's why I write my own, so in some small way beyond the team you can see the process and build understanding of what goes into building a team.
Also, the Japanese have their own blogs
With a bit of inference and Google translate
most people dont like reading now, make youtube ez traffic tofu
jokes aside, i still enjoy ur article tho
funny enough I love write ups
ez to understand 
POG
LETS GO
Not vgc but check this
Id make a youtube if I didnt hate being recorded
do you guys want to want me play more teams?
and articles are pretty
https://pokepast.es/2d51e187895fa5d1 gonna try this team (tofu's blog)
i need something on my team to deal with ghost tera incin
ill record you without ur permission and out of context to get you cancelled
/j
i'm tempted to run ttar
I am vert much a fan of Whimsicott in terms of competitive. But I don't really know what teams it has a place on beyond miraidon (which I still haven't even tried lol. Kinda gave up on building it cause of calyrex existing).
theres quite a lot of sets, but usually they just use either covert cloak with a more bulkier EV spread or focus sash
Whimsicott is pretty splashable lol
for focus sash they usually go max spA max speed, and its a more popular one
hits hard with Moonblast too
If you don’t like Calyrex just run Whimsicott and Terapagos
and yeah whim is just a very flexible support in most team, it got sunny day, TW, cotton spore, fake tears, encore
i think theres still a lot more support moves
just a very good mon
Grass/Fairy
Prankster, Infiltrator, Chlorophyll (Hidden)
60/67/85/77/75/116
480
Do Terapagos teams run mostly similar pokemon?
I have no clue what Terapagos do
it can run setup calm mind EP + starstorm protect or choice spechs starstorm hyperbeam EP + flex move
different spreads iirc
Someone link my Terapagos article
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2138618735 man I just dont care about groudon huh
Tofu and Snorlax back to give you a heads up on one of our new favourite Pokémon, Terapagos. The Terastal Turtle has seemingly been a headache for quite a few players to both play with and against, and I'd like to consider myself pretty decently experienced in it's use, hence, the making of this pos…
hoi
Heyo
just come back and i wanna try Terapagos with Archaludon to fully optimise the Rain aspect on my team
I wanna try tropius and idc that it's bad
its hard to make it work but what is your thought about it
Mainly for wide guard and leech seed
it no longer gets nuked by Bolt but it gets nuked by Chien Pao
It is criminal Snorlax didn’t get Wide Guard
Grass/Flying
Chlorophyll, Solar Power, Harvest (Hidden)
99/68/83/72/87/51
460
i mean that road Block in Gen 1 games shows that
so idk why no wide guard
They knew I would hit Rank 1 with it

wait did i just semi Resurrected my Reg F Team-
just because its fat? 
shame
Is endeavour focus sash whimsicott now a thing
Gen 1 Roadblock moment
Your mom would take max Low Kick damage
tf-
your mom would do max BP damage with heavy slam to cosmoem
Its on there
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i just pull my reg F Team out of Retirement home-
Why
If you look at my Terapagos Team i send you and look at this team
https://pokepast.es/2e76e8e3fbcca23d
Oh so basically you just added terapagos and chi yu
and Pelipper turned into Tornadus for Manual Rain
And wide guard
Terapagos and chi yu is pretty busted
but i made Terapagos Calm Mind instead of Hyper Offense-
Do you think I should change rilla's tera to ground and give it tera blast?
i mean if you don't want to gamble on High Horsepower,Sure
Chi yu and miraidon are annoying for my team
Miraidon is annoying for my team if i use HO Pagos so yeah i think Rilla would be good in here with AV
Rilla has av already
Against miraidon I could lead rilla and ting lu and use tera blast ground
yeah i think its fine
you can try it cuz Ting Lu is fairly decent against Miraidon
wait lemme check how much does it deal
252 SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 76 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 106-126 (44.1 - 52.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
How much does rilla tera blast ground do to miraidon
116+ Atk Tera Ground Rillaboom Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 134-158 (76.5 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
i think its still do respectable damage honestly
If I use tera blast ground and then sand tomb it's trapped
fair
Why Tera blast over stomping tantrum or hh? (I can’t remember which Rilla gets)
It gets both but stomping tantrum is weak and hhp can miss
naic day naic dayyy
Wait torrent can you run the calc for hhp tera ground
116+ Atk Tera Ground Rillaboom High Horsepower vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 156-186 (89.1 - 106.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
I like that
is your rilla's Attack stat higher than this
I need to check evs
what did he mean by this
it’s almost time to game
o shit gl !!
Gl to all those competing at NAIC

kim tech
All the best
kim tek?
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mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
Zekrom, Kyurem-B, Solgaleo and Dusk Mane:
Almost time
Good luck
ok with my current rilla spread i have a 6.3% chance to ohko miraidon with tera ground hhp
good
lmao someone on discord nicknamed their ursaluna cocaine bear
i wanted to name my shalpha ursaluna that in-game but it wouldn't let me
it's not illegal on showdown but it is in-game
i think i report someone for using these names in showdown before
fair
Good luck : )
I reported someone with the username "Yourmotherfuckerfuck" once
i reported someone with the name italian putin once
idk its weird-
yeah they force renamed them pretty quickly
I could combine my Reg F and Reg G Team together
terapagos is so good
CS?
Choice Specs
oh right specs
Still dislike Andrew Zheng for that pagos slander
i can't believe was it moxie who said that caly-s was washed
Atleast he used a secretly amazing item for pagos
To be fair it wasn't getting great results
But then a week later it won a regional
people just hadn't figured out the sauce for it yet
i just use CM Terapagos because i am so paranoid against Miraidon
and honestly my Urshifu appeared in more games and did very well
Whats that language Tofu and bububaba are speaking?
Indonesian i think
Hoki
i probably need to abandon Cresselia (For now)
Cresselia is not happy with that
use comfey
she is still in back up for my Terapagos Team

i don't like it honestly
how about screens terapagos
i tried it in Ladder and i kinda don't like how i play it
Play it in a way you like it 
done that in pre reg G,too defensive
send 2 teams that i did the best on
Dew it
wait what i'm watching a game and there's a non-psychic surge indeedee
i played Terapagos and made 15 teams
I did Screens Terapagos,Aurora Veil Terapagos, Comfey Terapagos,Grassy Terrain Terapagos
but Rain Offense feels best for me
i even did double Genies and Bolt with Terapagos
own tempo Indeedee?
must be
tempted to also put rain dance on torn to deal with chi yu
Just do it
i'll test tomorrow, tired now
Watch NAIC losers
stream it 
is it worth running roar or whirlwind on something to deal with clef caly-s?
Good luck people at NAIC
where’s the naic stream :(
how important do you think liking your team is? because i feel that i like the changes i made
Monke being supportive? Rare
Well
Obviously it's important to like what you're playing
You'll feel more motivated lol
well for once i figured out what problems i was encountering with the team and figured out some ways to address them
NAIC Stream should start soon right?
Here is a braindead image you can spam in this chat
Go wild
Gl NAIC players
Except for you Get er done baby
Not the "I am a building"
Anyone available to watchparty?
i mean, i can after i a bit
down perhaps
I'm gonna stream it
Gonna have to remove room limit and name it
But no need to stream I think
Since we can all just tune in on Twitch or something
tofu can i send you a cute documentary to watch to burn time
Lol ill make the room
👁️
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Thank you ❤️...
got it,i'll prepare my water supply lol
this stream is gonna be long
i'll just make the VC maybe
What in the fuck did you just say?
Its a show on Netflix
Detailing the evolution of korean fried chicken, how central it is to k-food culture
Oh for some reason I thought it was like a parody of Bohemian Rhapsody 😂
Ah yes
Guys this stream battle is so good rn
it starting to stream now
But it's just white
26 min timer
i'm in VC
Ill probably wait til it gets closer to the actual time
i love how Archeops is in the Stream Timer even tho its not in SV
More favouritism to Unova
I probably won't join the VC
I can watch it on my own
Hopefully you guys don't have any more weirdos join the vc
I'm thinking if i want to join the VC or not, probably not but reconsidering
Id join but I'm doing stuff until 2 30
True, especially since yesterday some weirdo played very weird noises in a VC
It's started
The less there are in the server
True
Ehh pre-game waffling
Hey babe
Hey cringe
lunala balance start to click with me 
going 7-0 today pretty nice
Yes ik you have been doing that with throwdat a lot recently
You're cringe
Lunala sucks
yo fuck you
Trashala
I speak the truth
Washedla
bitchofu
Luna-washed-la
Your name is just a guy stuttering bitch
Cuz you a bitch
An actually good roast from you
I love it
no ones talking to you monkebitch
Oh come on
new Porygon 2
I defend you
defnitely not talking to monkey with VGC in its name
hey babe
Lycopoky is Dr Dolittle confirmed?
Yes
Since i respect you now i will grant your wish: comfirming something
What ev for zacian bc I got shiny zacian
You know what son? No, Dr Dolittle isn't confirmed
What c'mon
Lunala actually sucks oml
best thing ever
Zacian ev spread
Lmao
Say anything meme related again and i will send the tower pic pinging you
Why is that
Tera(gala)pagos (island)
BEAT SOME ASS MY BOY
Not as high pressure as other restricteds lol
GL on NAIC
moment when stream actually mentions Cosmog:
That’s totally valid
And also, let us know your results so that way we can go look for your real name : ) (jk)
Especially compared to CSR
Who has the same type
You got this man GL and just have fun'
That’s the plan
And you can argue NDW too since it has a higher SpA
Good Luck and have fun in the regional
Has NAIC started?
NDW is kinda Passive Agressive
School just ended for me
ye
Ty all I appreciate the support
?!
Yea pretty sick
Stop studying and take a look at NAIC
@molten oasis WELCOME TO N'AWLINS MFER
You're like

My bad
We’re not playing rn
Leave the poor man alone MenkoCVG
Yeah no this is like
Mini Mardi Gras
But yea stop fucking pinging me
Lmao
He’s cooking
Enjoy your day (this is not a ping btw)
Pinging you because i want to
lol

Pinging you again because i want too
@autumn vault
Honestly
Although they could be suppressing sound some due to the fact it's inside lol
watch it
Yea but like
what is happening
N-O
what is this mini parade lmfao
Only in Day 2 i will watch NAIC
Guess we’re still going
ive been up since 7 waiting for naic ngl
Probably just a lil Louisiana culture thrown in
It’s fun
Yeah here's it from someone there
it is fun theyre goin in
yeah pretty cool i havent been to mardi gras in years
personally like the world Championship's Opening Ceremony but i like the parade
Is this a joke to you?
Yeah see its way more vibes from here
What's wrong with Day 1
Bruh
I made myself look very cringe
Just watch what else you got going on
@mighty stump my goats list
Dank
woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi
Where is that
Homemade standings for the North America Pokémon VGC International Championship 2024.
Where's wolfey
i picked my friends
Tofu everytime I say a joke
Probably the better thing to do
other than james evans & riley im just a fan of his playstyle
And also him when i express something a little odd
rest are friends 
You got a lot of friends
gl drago
gl Drago
make Zacian Proud and stand strong
dont ping
It's real
He posted it on Twitter
Kicking it off
DRAGO, DILLON, EVERYONE ELSE
GLHF HOMIES LFG
wait whats dillon using
I second this
Been using Caly I most of the format so Im assuming that
Just swinging in to say GL Drago and Dillon and isn't Yotam there? If so GL Yotam too!
And also saw the part about stop pinging 
xD
GL homies

the earlier part where we had 1 caster from all 4 games talking it bugged out a little
no problem for me since then
its just my prefer restricted
I have learned gouging fire is an awful mu
I am liking that Koraidon team ngl
Sad
Hope you don't run into any of them
What a good predict from Luca
Can’t beat that shit man
thank you ♥️
mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to dazedmika
Does someone here know how many more accuracy ( +2accuracy) gives an attack?
Are there any usage stats already?
Nvm i found sm
What ev spread for zacian
Ty
drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to dazedmika
@mighty stump
Ay ta hablando español

the Voice Party:WHO TF KNOWS SPANISH
oh-
Yo se español
And before you ask no i will not join VC
Wa ev spread zacian
Do your research if no one answers you
Anything good for Greninja and Decidueye? Hatched 2 shiny from eggs and just wanna have them have good EVs since I plan on using shiny black Pokemon sometime
Well I expect someone to eventually
They aren't viable
They aren't viable but they are usable
Iron Hands in top 12 again damn
Someone here actually has a Greninja team
Greninja can be Good for Fast Taunt with Calyrex Ice Rider (I tested it)
Decidueye nope
ahem 🙂
Hands and Miraidon carrying violet players
yea works well with miraidon
so damn true
Hands seeing a good chunk of usage while bolt is also there, somethings fishy
Why is Raging Bolt so good
Oh really?!?? Is it just 252 speed and 262 sp.atk or something else?
I can't describe why it's good, it's just good lol
Water/Dark
Torrent, Protean (Hidden), Battle Bond (Special)
72/95/67/103/71/122
530
Greninja-Bond, Greninja-Ash
Damn
Honestly I'll probably just use them against my friend and brother
Where is Groudon 😔
zama fall off real
- Very good stats
- Priority move
- Protosynthesis allowing it to counter sun teams and also does good against rain teams
WHY ZAMA SO LOW 😭
Why do Koraidon and Miraidon have those names?
Greninja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Taunt
- Grass Knot/Dark Pulse
- Chilling Water/Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind
Because of Volcarona and Gholdengo >: )
And also more reasons
Thank you! I'll try it out! Now to go search for a Decidueye one.
decidueye is kinda bad,like very bad
The normal one is ok, the hisuian one is trash af
I honestly just wanna use it against my brother,plus like I said I got a shiny so I wanna run a full team of shiny black Pokemon against friends
singles or doubles
Uhhhh the code
Either is fine
Why is plY rough used so much even tho low accuracy
NA1CTR1CKR00M
Nah i don't want the P2
P2 in Cherish ball pretty cool
(that’s readily available to almost anyone)
BRO THANK YOU SO MUCH I THOUHT IT WAS SOME EXPIRED MYSRERY GIFT
imimimimimimimm has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd
What js a gen rep
Ice rider above Shadow? Huh neat.
How did I even give that
Bro that username 💀
trick roooommmmm-
😔
Zacian ev spread
what 
Well yeah, just assumed more people would lean towards Shadow since it'd be easier to fit into variety of teams
Ice Rider is still stupid
It needs to out speed max speed korai and mirai
Go research on the best Zacian ev spread
i think the logic is-
there’s too much pokemon that would benefit from tailwind-
so let’s twist the dimensions and screw them over-
True!
i’m not making a spread for you go look for one yourself
Is regieleki good for trick room
Meanwhile Terapagos:Still decent in TR if you run bulky
pagos can do both which is nice
Wym.
MY EYESSSSSSS

which i like it a lot cuz my team benefits from both TW and TR
https://pokepast.es/114e1c3066efa8db i built this PH MB Pagos team, opinions?
Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 140 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 52 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Iron Head
- Play Rough
- Swords Dance
Ops this ev
In tr it is: 1. Super Bulky
2. Very Fast
3. Hits hard AF
And with all the tailwind going around it is even stupider
where the fuck is behemoth blade-
iron head become behemoth blade
Is sv iron head becomes behemoth blade in crown form
in crowned form
owh-
52 spe hits any specific or is it just a placeholder?
Outspeeds Calyrex Shadow Rider in TW
cause if you’re running tailwind imo it’s better to be able to outspeed the bikes when tailwind it up
hm-
then 250 might be a bit much for me
(that’s under tw)
i like the idea of being able to outspeed scarf shifu though
226 Speed with Tailwind for 60 Speed EVs for Terapagos
owhhhh
i run 156 modest
Ice rider is not fast.
and 12 SpA-
it’s super slow so it goes first in trick room-
i think that’s what lycopoky wanted to say
caly S 222 Speed
Urshifu Scarf is 223 in Adamant
ok so i over killed speed
In tailwind 112 speed outspeeds CSR in Tailwind
What other complaint do you have?
How many ev in speed to out speed max speed korai and mirqi
me-?
And everyone here
it wasn’t a complaint i was just curious that’s all
info collecting for more team building

Pls please man
tho Terapagos benefits TW more than TR
yeah
"*·:-_
cuz the TR mons in Restricted are just-
Too slow
its fine but Tera Dark Torn feels good
That Torn is ev'd to survive Surging Strikes and LO Astral Barrage from CSR
Max speed timid
And then dumped rest on SpA to have a little more firepower and be more useful against Amoonguss
A Gyaradooos
You can counter that tho, I don't really think ice riders stupid tbh imo.
Triple hands lmao
How many extra ev from knocking out mon with power item
Nvm the ditto already died
finna hands
Why are two songs at the same time? Lol
Nemona vs Unova Trainer be like
bro almost got it lmao
Yes, that is what i meant
508
Its actually 510 but 2 of the evs are completely useless, so there are 508 usable evs
Alright. Let's have a hypothetical moment here.
Let's say there's this guy, who's kinda new. He obtains a Volcanian from a very kind player. Let's say in this hypothetical that Mythicals were indeed allowed in competitive.
How would one build a Volcanian to be good?
This is definitely just hypothetical and has nothing to do with something that's a genuine question of mine
We don't really do hypotheticals tbh
Could probably find sets on Smogon
hypothetically i shot you and you lived
what is your hypothetical reaction
Reload mfer
shoot him again
Hypothetically you didn't follow Zombieland logic and double tap
Not really hypothetical if you use a .22. At best you'd break a rib.
sorry
It ok
hypothetically i clothesline you and you hit your head @bold geode
We can shoot Pokemon but not people
Then hypothetically John Cena jumps in and gets ya cuz you can't see him
well you can’t see him either why me first
I'm on the floor 
Lost opportunity to get Incineroar to dropkick someone
Yeah actually hypothetically Emma, Incineroar is coming from the top rope towards ya
Ok then so Volcanian is suprisingly bulky, with very high Def. (120) and good SpD.(90). In a hypothetical where it was allowed I'd run it with an Assault Vest(or choice specs to make use of it's 130 SpA. ) The moves I'd reccomend using are Steam Eruption, Overheat, Scald/Flame Charge, and Sludge Wave. Using Smogon for EV investment EVs: 252 HP / 60 SpA / 196 SpD. Enjoy the hypotheticals
You are a true chad.
boy is he now
YW
I can't thank you enough. Me and the lad are hypothetically going to destroy whoever we wish to
itsthenewguy has given 1 Gen Rep to ultimate_jbear
Yes
What's next hypothetically
uhm
I have 166 speed on zacian where do rest ev go
Suddenly, a hypothetical Machamp bursts onto the stage

. Please help
I got to meet moxie
yoooo hype
BRO YOUR SO LYCKY HES MY FAVE VGC PLAYER APART FROM WOLFEY
Love movie boosted
We do love some Moxie Boosted moments
I hate moxie boosted gym channel but I like moxie boosted
I put 166 speed Into zacian ev spread how should I put rest ev please
Oh wow, new channel made called Movie boosted
the Logic is just📉📉📉
Wym u know ue has 2 channels right?
I like people talking abt vgc but idrk watching people actually playing the game
Do you hate Moxie Boosted Gym because of the mention of a product in every video?
Don't want to say the product name
It's chz I dot like gameplay and would rather have him talking more than playing
Remember gamer sups (I think it's called) is a cafinated product I recommend only to my 18 plus viewers but my link will take you to the caffeine free section incase
Max attack hp dump
Yup that
Also the p in sups is actually a b
So its subs
I see
Ok sir
I thought wolfe had more than 1k points?
Honestly you should watch gameplay more lol
?
Came in not best timing my bad
Wolfey is competing at NAIC rn?
No the stream rn
Is showing top 16 for NA in terms of points
Giovanni Costa is on there
Wat
You not watching the stream rn?
They're showing NA and EU points placement
I got it, but I didn't hear
They said top 12 gets travel prize award and game 1 bye and no more day 2 skip in this season
So they gonna be 1-0 in Worlds if they top 12 here
Yea
Damn
Still a tiny advantage, but still reasonable
I mean free travel is nice
cant complain about that
I'm still confused where wolfe was on that list
Yeah but also having to win one less game to Day 2 essentially
Since he won 2 regionals and 1 finalist in total this season iirc
which should crank him points
So points wise he should be high no?
top 12 also gets travel award
Yeah but you have others who have grinded all thru the season whereas Wolfe has only done 4 events
so that alone is huge
Don't regional win give like 450-500 points or something?
Wolfe has a free flight RN lol
He won that one online tour
does anyone have a gholdengo set


