#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Yeah

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Its bad

patent marsh
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you can't use unleveled echoes for exp too

mighty stump
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Yeah

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I was about to say

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I can’t cannibalise some of my echos

patent marsh
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yea so they need to omega buff tacet field drops and also just reduce normal boss, tacet field and the skill/weapon mat dungeons to use less energy too

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60 and 40s is too steep

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barely get much progression over time

mighty stump
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yeah I already went through most of my Solvent

patent marsh
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Since they mentioned we're getting possible double tacet field drop next update

mighty stump
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I was impatient

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Since I’ll have less time in the near coming future

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Lol

patent marsh
mighty stump
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Lol

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But you dropped money on it

patent marsh
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He can suffer alone

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Meh it was only 500$

mighty stump
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Bruh

patent marsh
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I mean

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I c6 r5 everything in genshin up til raiden shogun and dropped the game

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I don't suffer sunk cost fallacy like most genshin players do

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I did the same for honkai impact 3rd

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I did the same to a lot of gachas

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I plan to drop epic seven once my guild completely dies

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Cause my mentality is I already had my fun with it

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Nothing to feel bad about

mighty stump
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Fair enough

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Just seems like a steep cost for short term enjoyment

patent marsh
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It's just how gachas is overall

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Plus I make more than that in a day anyways

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I think by far the most I spent is in genshin if we compare the lifetime I played in a gacha

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Even epic seven and fgo that I played for longer than genshin hasn't reached to how much I spent in Genshin

rustic mountain
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ight wat we thinkin is winning naic

patent marsh
rustic mountain
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haha

patent marsh
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It's probably shadowrex

rustic mountain
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id be very surprised if it even made top 8

patent marsh
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Or maybe icerex

rustic mountain
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idk csr has done really well

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id expect it to be target hunted

dull ibex
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tofu wanna vc at all?

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thinking of playing some showdown/cart

patent marsh
rustic mountain
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doesnt mean ppl cant do well w/ it still

patent marsh
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Ig it really depends on the majority people use

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Maybe terapagos will take no 1 for most used day 1

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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maybe

mighty stump
rustic mountain
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i think csr/cir/turtle will prolly b top 3 day 1

patent marsh
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Another shadowrex win would be cool arkeknine

rustic mountain
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maybe miraidon in there

mighty stump
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Only caue HOPagos has neutral/positive matchups into everything including Caly/Clef

rustic mountain
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yea

mighty stump
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For Miraidon

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Imo

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Unless a different Miraidon formula arises

dull ibex
mighty stump
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I don’t think it will do that well

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
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thats fair

dull ibex
rustic mountain
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its around

mighty stump
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It’s been the main Mane

dull ibex
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thats kinda wild

mighty stump
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Specs/Sash are mostly seen in Sun

dull ibex
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I want to expirement with more mon tbh

dull ibex
mighty stump
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Its more difficult to pilot imo

dull ibex
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yeah its kinda brutal

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every thing is getting harder to pilot tbh

rustic mountain
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margin for error is a slot slimmer now

mighty stump
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That’s a given

mighty stump
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Its why people need to stick w it from the beginning cause its easier then than now

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The basics are the same

dull ibex
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is nasty plot better then calm mind?

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Different

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I prefer CM

dull ibex
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does 252 252 4 work with calm mind as well or do I want some bulk for it

mighty stump
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Bulk

dull ibex
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gotcha

mighty stump
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Ill just pass you mine lol

dull ibex
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please do

mighty stump
dull ibex
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im making some tweaks to the wolfey team for some stuff i prefer

rustic mountain
mighty stump
dull ibex
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nvm these were the changes I wanted lmao

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I would consider taunt over will o wisp for me personally

rustic mountain
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also single restricted. i think things ofc change wen we are allowed 2. 1 is brutal in a lot of ways

dull ibex
rustic mountain
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series b was fun

dull ibex
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right mix of more complex and a bit eaiser imo

mighty stump
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I miss pre Ruin Legends

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I miss Reg A the most

dull ibex
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im ngl I dont know how to pilot this balance team effectively

rustic mountain
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series a def needed more time

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reg f was cool

dull ibex
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I need to take more notes again

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im a little dumb for fake out with giraf on field

craggy dagger
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but like-
knowing-
ppl-
it’s gonna be one of the caly riders, the bikes, or a weather trio

rustic mountain
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koraidon or kyogre would be interesting

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unfortunately dont see a world lugia or mewtwo win

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id be impressed if someone could even day 2 w/ mewtwo at naic

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thats an achievement in itself

mighty stump
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You know what should be a challenge

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To run IncinBoom but you’re not allowed to use Fake Out

rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Just to teach alternative plays

rustic mountain
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if only cts

rustic mountain
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i love incin/urshi/rilla core but its been a bit since ive run em all together

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def good to change it up

mighty stump
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Yeah

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Next team I’m just not gonna run Incin/Boom/Ursh

dull ibex
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👀

rustic mountain
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them and bolt prolly top 4 day 1 and 2 useage

mighty stump
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Well tbf I already did not run Incin/Boom/Urshi

rustic mountain
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yea i didnt think u did really

bold geode
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Tofu, I'm bullying Red

mighty stump
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Uhm

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Okay

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Sure

rustic mountain
dull ibex
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how many calm minds do you usually do in a match?

mighty stump
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Depends

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Lol

dull ibex
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intersting

mighty stump
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There isn’t a set number

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or average even

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Since you can’t just apply it to all

dull ibex
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yeah thats fair

mighty stump
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Most of the time thanks to Clef you can guarantee one

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Sometiems I just HH Astral Barrage

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Its up to you to identify when and how many CMs you can do

dull ibex
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alright

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fair enough

mighty stump
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I hope you remember yesterdays games where you didnt Calm Mind or you Calm Mind too many times

timber falcon
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good as gold doesnt stop stat drops right?

mighty stump
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It doesn’t

dull ibex
mighty stump
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If you try to greed for Calm Minds and end up too low of an HP to actually benefit then that’s the same thing as not getting Calm Minds

dull ibex
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fair

mighty stump
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And if you dont CM in scenarios you should be leaning on it

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Your board states become more precarious

dull ibex
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yeah I have to learn the difference in scenarios

timber falcon
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i think t7 i shouldve attacked shifu

mighty stump
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Lol Turn 5 was the easiest Tera + Attack Urshifu

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You had Shadow Shield

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Or if you didnt want to Tera was to Moongeist anyways

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Or if you figured it was choice’d was to get rid of Tornadus first since then yoh can just wall Urshifu

timber falcon
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Would have been helpful

abstract grail
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No way! Maybe I am getting better! I'm feeling able of predicting what my opponents going to do.

tiny holly
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So I currently have
`Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature

  • Discharge
  • Electro Drift
  • Draco Meteor
  • Volt Switch

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moonblast
  • Tailwind
  • Encore
  • Protect

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon @ Life Orb
Ability: Mind's Eye
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Blood Moon
  • Earth Power
  • Hyper Voice
  • Protect `
    for my Miraidon team but idk what else to run.
cyan smelt
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farig

tiny holly
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Is it to imprison against trick room?

abstract grail
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That and armor tail utility gives you alot of pressure

tiny holly
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Oh yeah armor tail beats priority

cyan smelt
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usually miraidon teams have tailwind and tr so you can volt switch out with miraidon, set up tr for ursaluna and then sweep with miraidon once tr is over

tiny holly
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That's just really confusing

abstract grail
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There URS has speed investment though

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Well, high speed investment I mean.

cyan smelt
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then set up tailwind i guess and farig is just there to guard against priority

abstract grail
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It could work, probably still give it trick room to help out by canceling opponents TR.

cyan smelt
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yeah no need to run imprison when you can use tr on the same turn

mighty stump
abstract grail
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You seem to have a pretty big ice weakness with whim, miraidon and Ursaluna. Might wanna tru and run a Calyrex-Ice counter, someone with wide guard maybe?

mighty stump
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If you want to play Miraidon

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You should be reading thjs

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The team deals with CIR fine

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Weaknesses are beyond just typings. It’s why I say coverage is sometimes unnecessary and also another teambuilding trap

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Having an overarching executable gameplan is far more important

abstract grail
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That's why I specified a specific threat that'd be an issue rather then type as a hole, worder poorly ig.

mighty stump
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I would also watch reruns of the Indianapolis Regionals to gain more insight, particularly the finals as well @tiny holly

abstract grail
mighty stump
abstract grail
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Yep

mighty stump
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Which comes back to still having a gameplan into CIR outdoes your inherent weaknesses

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Indianapolis’ winning team was a Miraidon team and this is coming hot off when people thought CIR is the most consistent Restricted

abstract grail
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That's kinda what I tried to say just worded it poor

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Wowie very indepth report

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

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Ursaluna-Bloodmoon's moveset:
Physical Moves

Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Counter, Cross Chop, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Fury Cutter, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headlong Rush, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Ice Punch, Lick, Low Kick, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Payback, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Scratch, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Blood Moon, Earth Power, Focus Blast, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Mud Shot, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Vacuum Wave

Status Moves

Belly Drum, Calm Mind, Endure, Fake Tears, Harden, Helping Hand, Leer, Moonlight, Play Nice, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Taunt, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ursaluna-Bloodmoon.

abstract grail
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This picture goes insane holy

mighty stump
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Team reports are an art form and I love them

abstract grail
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Factual

mighty stump
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I write for my own teams since it’s fun and overall, team reports give the insight and process to teambuilding which is a difficult skill to build upon without direction

abstract grail
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True , I listen to analysis videos alot when doing things.

timber falcon
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good lord this was scary

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double para

abstract grail
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Yoooo they give ditto the choice Scarf to get around speed tie that's actually so smart, thats awesome.

timber falcon
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well yeah more than have of used dittos use it

abstract grail
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Never occurred to me for some reason though I don't think about ditto often lol

tiny holly
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But good idea

timber falcon
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managed to hit GXE wanted, now i just gotta keep it up till 1500

dull ibex
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i return

tiny holly
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Showdown ladder or SV Ladder

mighty stump
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Either or. Showdown is just resourceless

tiny holly
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I'll probably do it on showdown in case I end up not liking the team

mighty stump
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Showdown tends to have more quality matches anyways earlier

tiny holly
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I do plan on building whatever team I decide upon in Violet after I get it into a more finalized state.

dull ibex
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fair

tiny holly
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How good is this Chi-yu set

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Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Heat Wave
  • Dark Pulse
  • Snarl
  • Overheat
cyan smelt
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i always misread tera shift as tera shit lmao

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generally chi-yu wants ghost tera to avoid fake out

tiny holly
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Makes sense.

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My brain did bad logic twice

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Tera Grass or Tera Steel would of been what I used.

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I switched it over to tera ghost.

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What about the moves though

cyan smelt
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moves look standard

tiny holly
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I mostly want to use it to nuke calyrex

cyan smelt
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be aware that calyrex usually runs clefairy next to it

tiny holly
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Can gamefreak just not bring back calyrex ever again?

cyan smelt
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spread moves are good to deal with caly clef

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you could also run tera ground chi-yu next to discharge miraidon

tiny holly
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I should just run choice scarf ditto

abstract grail
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Nah calyrex is a real one me and them go way back

tiny holly
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I probably should just wait until next game to do any sort of ladder stuff in vgc.

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Just so I don't have to deal with a restricted format

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I really want to make a team and play in game without having to deal with calyrex players dropping multiple nukes on me.

abstract grail
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Restricteds fun it's just abit harder to start with.

tiny holly
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Yeah I get that restricted legendaries can be fun to use. I just want a format that doesn't just have one pokemon that is so broken it is calyrex shadow rider.

abstract grail
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There really good yeah, but I wouldn't go so far as to say there broken. Theye have counters that alot of mons can fulfill.

tiny holly
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All I can really think of is like trick room or something

abstract grail
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They die from a sucker punch from anything with a decent atk stat wich I find funny

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Ofcourse they can play around that themselves but that's kinda what the whole games about.

tiny holly
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If it tera fairies I literally can't do anything against it if it has proper support.

abstract grail
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By support do you mean clefairy? Taunting clefairy is always valid if you can bonk them.

tiny holly
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The one I played against used fake out spamming rillaboom and incineroar.

abstract grail
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I mean fake out only works first turn in, it's not super hard to play against. Especially with say Farigiraf.

mighty stump
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I think in any given Pokemon game

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There will always be something that is perceived as broken

abstract grail
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I bealive Psychic terrain also shuts it down? Tofu you smart it shuts down fake out yeah?

mighty stump
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If this was Reg A, people would be complaining about Expanding Force and Gholdengo

mighty stump
cyan smelt
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i didn't believe it when there were those youtube videos saying caly-s was washed, it seemed like clickbait at the time

abstract grail
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Ye that's what I thought

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He's still really good people just prep for em

mighty stump
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If VGC is of genuine interest, I would just insist people grit their teeth and play through the difficult aspect since the hardest part is knowledge

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And the second hardest part is throwing out your pre-conceived notions

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Calling something broken to me is almost always an excuse to not better yourself

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“It’s broken, so it doesn’t matter what I do”

abstract grail
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I do understand why people don't like restricted formats. Two restricted mons I'm not fond of but one just feels right ig.

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I really enjoy singular restricted format

mighty stump
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Its the most difficult time to get into a generation.

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But it also brings the most value

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If you can learn and find your ground in Restricted format

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You’ll do better in lower powered formats in the future

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It’s an investment

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VGC, imo, is the wrong hobby to get into if you want short term enjoyment

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Cause you won’t have enough time to appreciate all the facets of it

abstract grail
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Some people don't find alot of succes in throwing themselves in the deep end though, wich is just a form of different learning styles.

mighty stump
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Which is fine

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It’s just unfortunate

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But there are also other methods of learning that doesn’t involve playing

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Replay reviews, VODs, article reading, sitting in discussions

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Playing is just a matter of execution

abstract grail
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I think both mindsets are perfectly understandable. Just depends on the person, do what works best for you.

mighty stump
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The worst kind of players are the ones who don’t know what they’re talking about yet have the gall to debate with misinformation

abstract grail
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The only thing I hate about certain restricted formats is pokemon like Shadow rider are completely un obtainable unless A: you dump 80$ B: Beg on the gts (possibly will reacive a hacked pokemon with sucks.) Or C: get alittle devious.

mighty stump
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Yes, accessibility is an issue

cyan smelt
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money to go and actually compete in tournaments is a lot too

abstract grail
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Especially If you don't already live in a huge area.

cyan smelt
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i wonder how much drago spent to go to naic

mighty stump
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I would say that is more grey area

abstract grail
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Online entry would be nice

mighty stump
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I think it’s a privilege/luxury to be able to dedicate the time to play and compete at video games just like any event one has to play/compete/practice jn

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And this is coming from the person who absolutely cannot compete even if the stars aligned

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Online is also just a very different vibe compared to an in-person event

abstract grail
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Depends on where you live but travel expenses can be so damn high, that it makes VGC even harder to get into wich making a community more locked down is never a good thing to me.

mighty stump
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It’s still a luxury/privilege. Online community overall is very alive

cyan smelt
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there's always online tournaments

abstract grail
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I understand something like worlds being very exclusive, but having to spend hundreds to go from place to place (like if you don't have a local card store or something along those lines you're probably completely screwed out of getting to do anything in person.)

mighty stump
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I figured you meant Regional level events. I have no comment on Locals

abstract grail
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Like in my area, there's absolutely nothing. It's rather disheartening, and while online is all well and good. Nothing can really beat personal interaction and forming those relationships.

little plank
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I feel like this matchup is such a good example of how having knowledge of the game can completely win you a battle.

mighty stump
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I have to make do with purely online interactions. The option to even consider travelling doesn’t exist to me

little plank
mighty stump
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That’s a favourable matchup for Terapagos. Good Rocky Helmet + RP.

little plank
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Yeah that's why I got rid of incineroar in favor of valcarona. I had nothing other then clefairy that could tank a close combat lol

abstract grail
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I fear no man, but terapagos scares me.

cyan smelt
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tofu if you could compete you'd win every regional you played in lmao

little plank
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Wolfe glick might have a thing or two to say about that lol 😆

cyan smelt
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yeah but wolfie is built different

little plank
cyan smelt
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congrats

dull ibex
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I do think I would be drowning alot harder if I didnt start in low power format tbh

mighty stump
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I'm not some god at the game

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I just work hard lol

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I appreciate the vote of confidence though

little plank
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I started playing competitively stsrt of sword and shield. And just got hooked lol

mighty stump
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Same. I didn't want to waste my 50 bucks

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I finished SwSh, started competitive on a whim cause I remember seeing a meme about it

dull ibex
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thats kinda why i havent bought dlc tbh

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not wanting to waste money

little plank
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Basically started with a trick room team of butterfree dusclops, torkoal, rhyperior, hatterene, indeedee lol and got top 200 on ladder after hundreds of battles lol

abstract grail
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I started about 6 weeks ago 🔥🔥🔥🔥

mighty stump
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The main reason I also help out and advise is because there was never a Tofu for Tofu

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I self-taught everything

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Til now

dull ibex
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thats pretty noble tbh

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im also mostly self taught I think

little plank
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I watched a ton of cybertron and wolfey and regionals and such

mighty stump
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It's difficult when there wasn't things like VGCPastes or VGCguide

dull ibex
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my SV ive gotten help polishing my gameplay

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which is great

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learning was brutal

little plank
dull ibex
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what is there too update?

mighty stump
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No, but the point of VGCguide is the fundamentals of it

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Regardless of where you start, where you play

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The fundamentals are almost always consistent

little plank
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I remember when they launched it thought it was going to be basically a better version of victoryroad lol

dull ibex
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its different

mighty stump
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That's why I keep talking about consistency and focusing on building good habits beyond just looking at the Pokemon and current stuff

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Teach a man to fish yadda yadda

little plank
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I miss the team write ups for victory road

mighty stump
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I do too.

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Luckily VGCTwitter is a good source by following top players and such.

little plank
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Break down and talk about how a team was built why they chose each pokemon what the trial and errors were.

mighty stump
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Articles are a lost art

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It's why I write my own, so in some small way beyond the team you can see the process and build understanding of what goes into building a team.

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Also, the Japanese have their own blogs

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With a bit of inference and Google translate

charred saddle
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most people dont like reading now, make youtube ez traffic tofu

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jokes aside, i still enjoy ur article tho

dull ibex
charred saddle
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ez to understand nyaThumbsup

mighty stump
dull ibex
cyan smelt
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Not vgc but check this

mighty stump
dull ibex
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do you guys want to want me play more teams?

mighty stump
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and articles are pretty

dull ibex
cyan smelt
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i need something on my team to deal with ghost tera incin

charred saddle
cyan smelt
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i'm tempted to run ttar

tiny holly
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I am vert much a fan of Whimsicott in terms of competitive. But I don't really know what teams it has a place on beyond miraidon (which I still haven't even tried lol. Kinda gave up on building it cause of calyrex existing).

charred saddle
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theres quite a lot of sets, but usually they just use either covert cloak with a more bulkier EV spread or focus sash

mighty stump
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Whimsicott is pretty splashable lol

charred saddle
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for focus sash they usually go max spA max speed, and its a more popular one

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hits hard with Moonblast too

mighty stump
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If you don’t like Calyrex just run Whimsicott and Terapagos

charred saddle
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and yeah whim is just a very flexible support in most team, it got sunny day, TW, cotton spore, fake tears, encore

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i think theres still a lot more support moves

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just a very good mon

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 547: Whimsicott
Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Prankster, Infiltrator, Chlorophyll (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/67/85/77/75/116

Total

480

tiny holly
mighty stump
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Basically

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A wider variation than CalyS

tiny holly
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I have no clue what Terapagos do

dull ibex
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set up sweep

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and hyper offense

charred saddle
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it can run setup calm mind EP + starstorm protect or choice spechs starstorm hyperbeam EP + flex move

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different spreads iirc

mighty stump
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Someone link my Terapagos article

dull ibex
charred saddle
solid frigate
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hoi

cyan smelt
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Heyo

solid frigate
# cyan smelt Heyo

just come back and i wanna try Terapagos with Archaludon to fully optimise the Rain aspect on my team

cyan smelt
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I wanna try tropius and idc that it's bad

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Mainly for wide guard and leech seed

solid frigate
mighty stump
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It is criminal Snorlax didn’t get Wide Guard

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 357: Tropius
Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Solar Power, Harvest (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

99/68/83/72/87/51

Total

460

solid frigate
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so idk why no wide guard

mighty stump
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They knew I would hit Rank 1 with it

solid frigate
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wait did i just semi Resurrected my Reg F Team-

charred saddle
cyan smelt
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Is endeavour focus sash whimsicott now a thing

solid frigate
mighty stump
solid frigate
charred saddle
mighty stump
mighty stump
charred saddle
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sate kambing hanjawar harus lu coba si, itu sate kambing legend

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di puncak tapi WKWKWK

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jd ngidem sate padang sial

solid frigate
solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Why

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Oh so basically you just added terapagos and chi yu

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

And wide guard

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Terapagos and chi yu is pretty busted

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Do you think I should change rilla's tera to ground and give it tera blast?

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Chi yu and miraidon are annoying for my team

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Rilla has av already

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Against miraidon I could lead rilla and ting lu and use tera blast ground

solid frigate
solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Forces it into using Draco meteor

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Can also deal with bolt too

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 76 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 106-126 (44.1 - 52.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

cyan smelt
#

How much does rilla tera blast ground do to miraidon

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

Damn not enough

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But it won't be able to volt switch

solid frigate
#

i think its still do respectable damage honestly

cyan smelt
#

If I use tera blast ground and then sand tomb it's trapped

solid frigate
#

fair

willow vault
#

Why Tera blast over stomping tantrum or hh? (I can’t remember which Rilla gets)

cyan smelt
#

It gets both but stomping tantrum is weak and hhp can miss

chrome knot
#

naic day naic dayyy

cyan smelt
#

Wait torrent can you run the calc for hhp tera ground

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

I like that

solid frigate
#

is your rilla's Attack stat higher than this

cyan smelt
#

I need to check evs

next stump
#

it’s almost time to game

chrome knot
#

o shit gl !!

cyan smelt
#

Gl to all those competing at NAIC

charred saddle
mighty stump
mighty stump
charred saddle
#

kim tek?

mighty stump
#

Ya kim tek

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Sop iga juga

charred saddle
#

bruh napa ga ajak gw

mighty stump
#

You know it took me a while bahwa kambing = goat bukan domba

charred saddle
#

dkt tmpt gw bangke

mighty stump
#

Ha

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kim tek emg deket elo?

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Deket gw jadinya dong

charred saddle
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ga dkt banget sih, tp lbih ke arah ini sih

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palmerah ga jauh bngt seinget gw

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8-9km doang

next stump
gentle cragBOT
autumn vault
molten oasis
#

Almost time

mighty stump
#

Good luck

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Have fun

willow vault
#

Good luck

cyan smelt
#

ok with my current rilla spread i have a 6.3% chance to ohko miraidon with tera ground hhp

solid frigate
#

good

cyan smelt
#

lmao someone on discord nicknamed their ursaluna cocaine bear

solid frigate
#

wait

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isn't that illegal to name that-

cyan smelt
#

i wanted to name my shalpha ursaluna that in-game but it wouldn't let me

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it's not illegal on showdown but it is in-game

solid frigate
#

i think i report someone for using these names in showdown before

cyan smelt
#

it's a funny name though

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it's the name of that movie

solid frigate
#

fair

autumn vault
autumn vault
cyan smelt
#

i reported someone with the name italian putin once

solid frigate
#

idk its weird-

autumn vault
#

Forget about what i said

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I made quite a joke

cyan smelt
#

yeah they force renamed them pretty quickly

solid frigate
#

I could combine my Reg F and Reg G Team together

cyan smelt
#

terapagos is so good

autumn vault
#

Very good

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I love CS Terapagos

cyan smelt
#

CS?

autumn vault
#

Choice Specs

cyan smelt
#

oh right specs

autumn vault
#

Still dislike Andrew Zheng for that pagos slander

cyan smelt
#

i can't believe was it moxie who said that caly-s was washed

autumn vault
#

Atleast he used a secretly amazing item for pagos

autumn vault
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But then a week later it won a regional

cyan smelt
#

people just hadn't figured out the sauce for it yet

solid frigate
#

i just use CM Terapagos because i am so paranoid against Miraidon

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and honestly my Urshifu appeared in more games and did very well

sharp cobalt
#

Whats that language Tofu and bububaba are speaking?

solid frigate
sharp cobalt
#

Hoki

solid frigate
#

i probably need to abandon Cresselia (For now)

sharp cobalt
#

Cresselia is not happy with that

cyan smelt
#

use comfey

solid frigate
sharp cobalt
solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

how about screens terapagos

solid frigate
#

i tried it in Ladder and i kinda don't like how i play it

sharp cobalt
#

Play it in a way you like it cat_yes

solid frigate
solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

wait what i'm watching a game and there's a non-psychic surge indeedee

solid frigate
# autumn vault Dew it

i played Terapagos and made 15 teams

I did Screens Terapagos,Aurora Veil Terapagos, Comfey Terapagos,Grassy Terrain Terapagos

#

but Rain Offense feels best for me

#

i even did double Genies and Bolt with Terapagos

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

must be

solid frigate
#

cuz synchronise sucks

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unless its on Prankster

cyan smelt
#

tempted to also put rain dance on torn to deal with chi yu

mighty stump
#

Just do it

cyan smelt
#

i'll test tomorrow, tired now

mighty stump
#

Watch NAIC losers

solid frigate
#

stream it arkeknine

cyan smelt
#

is it worth running roar or whirlwind on something to deal with clef caly-s?

bold geode
#

Good luck people at NAIC

chrome knot
#

where’s the naic stream :(

cyan smelt
#

how important do you think liking your team is? because i feel that i like the changes i made

molten oasis
mighty stump
#

Obviously it's important to like what you're playing

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You'll feel more motivated lol

cyan smelt
#

well for once i figured out what problems i was encountering with the team and figured out some ways to address them

forest arrow
#

NAIC Stream should start soon right?

autumn vault
#

Go wild

#

Gl NAIC players

bold geode
bold geode
mighty stump
#

Anyone available to watchparty?

solid frigate
#

i mean, i can after i a bit

chrome knot
solid frigate
mighty stump
#

But no need to stream I think

#

Since we can all just tune in on Twitch or something

chrome knot
#

tofu can i send you a cute documentary to watch to burn timeGiggleHehe

mighty stump
#

Lol ill make the room

chrome knot
solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Oh that

#

I watched it already

#

Cause Prog mentioned it

solid frigate
#

this stream is gonna be long

chrome knot
#

oml of course

#

it came up on my recommended

#

had to watch and its so good

mighty stump
#

Korean Fried Chicken Rhapsody

solid frigate
#

i'll just make the VC maybe

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Its a show on Netflix

#

Detailing the evolution of korean fried chicken, how central it is to k-food culture

bold geode
#

Oh for some reason I thought it was like a parody of Bohemian Rhapsody 😂

#

Ah yes
Guys this stream battle is so good rn

solid frigate
#

it starting to stream now

bold geode
#

But it's just white

solid frigate
#

but its still white background-

#

also i'm in the VC so yea

#

Starting now

forest arrow
#

26 min timer

solid frigate
#

i'm in VC

mighty stump
#

Ill probably wait til it gets closer to the actual time

solid frigate
#

i love how Archeops is in the Stream Timer even tho its not in SV

autumn vault
#

I probably won't join the VC

#

I can watch it on my own

cyan smelt
#

Hopefully you guys don't have any more weirdos join the vc

autumn vault
#

I'm thinking if i want to join the VC or not, probably not but reconsidering

abstract grail
#

Id join but I'm doing stuff until 2 30

autumn vault
mighty stump
#

I mean

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The more weirdos that do blatantly bannable shit

patent marsh
mighty stump
#

The less there are in the server

autumn vault
#

True

mighty stump
bold geode
autumn vault
charred saddle
#

lunala balance start to click with me bruh

going 7-0 today pretty nice

autumn vault
#

Yes ik you have been doing that with throwdat a lot recently

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Lunala sucks

charred saddle
bold geode
#

Trashala

mighty stump
#

I speak the truth

autumn vault
#

Washedla

charred saddle
#

bitchofu

autumn vault
#

Luna-washed-la

bold geode
autumn vault
#

I love it

charred saddle
autumn vault
#

Oh come on

solid frigate
#

new Porygon 2

autumn vault
#

I tera'd for that ground move

#

And it misses bolt

autumn vault
charred saddle
forest arrow
bold geode
#

Lycopoky is Dr Dolittle confirmed?

autumn vault
#

Since i respect you now i will grant your wish: comfirming something

graceful flare
#

What ev for zacian bc I got shiny zacian

autumn vault
bold geode
mighty stump
#

Lunala actually sucks oml

bold geode
#

TeraBAGos

solid frigate
graceful flare
#

Zacian ev spread

cyan smelt
#

Lmao

autumn vault
molten oasis
autumn vault
bold geode
mighty stump
autumn vault
solid frigate
#

moment when stream actually mentions Cosmog:

molten oasis
autumn vault
#

And also, let us know your results so that way we can go look for your real name : ) (jk)

molten oasis
#

0-9 I left (joke)

#

My goal is to not go negative in wins and losses

autumn vault
#

Who has the same type

forest arrow
#

You got this man GL and just have fun'

molten oasis
#

That’s the plan

autumn vault
autumn vault
timber falcon
#

Has NAIC started?

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

School just ended for me

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Ty all I appreciate the support

mighty stump
#

Whoa

#

We got a whole parade at NAIC

autumn vault
#

?!

molten oasis
#

Yea pretty sick

autumn vault
bold geode
#

@molten oasis WELCOME TO N'AWLINS MFER

mighty stump
#

You're like

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Pinging him a lot

#

Lol

bold geode
#

My bad

molten oasis
#

We’re not playing rn

autumn vault
#

Leave the poor man alone MenkoCVG

bold geode
#

Yeah no this is like
Mini Mardi Gras

molten oasis
#

But yea stop fucking pinging me

mighty stump
#

I got hit with the Trick CB Grimmsnarl

#

oml

molten oasis
#

Lmao

mighty stump
#

man is MEAN

molten oasis
#

He’s cooking

bold geode
autumn vault
forest arrow
#

lol

molten oasis
autumn vault
bold geode
mighty stump
#

Is it just me

#

Or is this tiny parade

#

Really quiet

autumn vault
#

?

#

I don't know about the parade, i haven't watched NAIC yet

bold geode
#

Honestly
Although they could be suppressing sound some due to the fact it's inside lol

solid frigate
#

watch itarkeknine

mighty stump
#

Yea but like

chrome knot
#

what is happening

autumn vault
chrome knot
#

what is this mini parade lmfao

autumn vault
#

Only in Day 2 i will watch NAIC

mighty stump
#

Smh

molten oasis
#

Guess we’re still going

chrome knot
#

ive been up since 7 waiting for naic ngl

forest arrow
#

Probably just a lil Louisiana culture thrown in

molten oasis
#

It’s fun

bold geode
chrome knot
#

it is fun theyre goin in

forest arrow
#

yeah pretty cool i havent been to mardi gras in years

solid frigate
#

personally like the world Championship's Opening Ceremony but i like the parade

autumn vault
mighty stump
mighty stump
molten oasis
autumn vault
#

I made myself look very cringe

molten oasis
#

Just watch what else you got going on

chrome knot
#

@mighty stump my goats list

mighty stump
gentle cragBOT
mighty stump
#

Where is that

autumn vault
#

Not a typo in that

chrome knot
solid frigate
chrome knot
#

i picked my friends

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Probably the better thing to do

chrome knot
#

other than james evans & riley im just a fan of his playstyle

autumn vault
chrome knot
#

rest are friends GiggleHehe

molten oasis
#

You got a lot of friends

forest arrow
#

gl drago

solid frigate
#

gl Drago

bold geode
solid frigate
forest arrow
#

dont ping

autumn vault
#

Its a mix of both

bold geode
#

It's real

#

He posted it on Twitter

#

Kicking it off
DRAGO, DILLON, EVERYONE ELSE
GLHF HOMIES LFG

solid frigate
#

wait whats dillon using

forest arrow
autumn vault
#

Unite cringe

#

Move on to VGC matches

forest arrow
#

Been using Caly I most of the format so Im assuming that

lofty tartan
#

Just swinging in to say GL Drago and Dillon and isn't Yotam there? If so GL Yotam too!

#

And also saw the part about stop pinging arkeknine

forest arrow
#

xD

autumn vault
#

GL homies

lofty tartan
autumn vault
#

I'm watching NAIC, are you happy tofu?

#

Is it just me or is it glicthing a bit?

patent marsh
#

no problem for me since then

plain drum
abstract grail
#

Not as hard as this though, it's insane.

solid frigate
#

its just my prefer restricted

molten oasis
#

I have learned gouging fire is an awful mu

autumn vault
#

I am liking that Koraidon team ngl

autumn vault
#

Hope you don't run into any of them

#

What a good predict from Luca

molten oasis
#

Can’t beat that shit man

gentle cragBOT
finite frigate
#

Does someone here know how many more accuracy ( +2accuracy) gives an attack?

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Are there any usage stats already?

graceful flare
#

What ev spread for zacian

molten oasis
#

Ty

#

Oh bruh

gentle cragBOT
foggy lodge
#

Ay ta hablando español

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

the Voice Party:WHO TF KNOWS SPANISH

craggy dagger
autumn vault
#

And before you ask no i will not join VC

graceful flare
#

Wa ev spread zacian

autumn vault
patent marsh
tribal garnet
#

Anything good for Greninja and Decidueye? Hatched 2 shiny from eggs and just wanna have them have good EVs since I plan on using shiny black Pokemon sometime

graceful flare
#

Well I expect someone to eventually

autumn vault
#

They aren't viable but they are usable

foggy lodge
autumn vault
#

Someone here actually has a Greninja team

solid frigate
solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Hands and Miraidon carrying violet players

patent marsh
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

Its not even top 5 anymore

autumn vault
# patent marsh

Hands seeing a good chunk of usage while bolt is also there, somethings fishy

foggy lodge
#

Why is Raging Bolt so good

tribal garnet
foggy lodge
#

I can't describe why it's good, it's just good lol

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 658: Greninja
Types

Water/Dark

Abilities

Torrent, Protean (Hidden), Battle Bond (Special)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

72/95/67/103/71/122

Total

530

Other Formes

Greninja-Bond, Greninja-Ash

foggy lodge
#

Damn

tribal garnet
#

Honestly I'll probably just use them against my friend and brother

foggy lodge
#

Where is Groudon 😔

mighty stump
#

zama fall off real

autumn vault
patent marsh
bold geode
#

WHY ZAMA SO LOW 😭

autumn vault
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

And also more reasons

tribal garnet
#

Thank you! I'll try it out! Now to go search for a Decidueye one.

solid frigate
autumn vault
#

The normal one is ok, the hisuian one is trash af

tribal garnet
#

I honestly just wanna use it against my brother,plus like I said I got a shiny so I wanna run a full team of shiny black Pokemon against friends

solid frigate
#

singles or doubles

foggy lodge
#

Uhhhh the code

tribal garnet
#

Either is fine

graceful flare
#

Why is plY rough used so much even tho low accuracy

foggy lodge
#

NA1CTR1CKR00M

autumn vault
craggy dagger
forest arrow
craggy dagger
#

(that’s readily available to almost anyone)

graceful flare
gentle cragBOT
graceful flare
#

What js a gen rep

abstract grail
#

Ice rider above Shadow? Huh neat.

graceful flare
#

How did I even give that

autumn vault
craggy dagger
foggy lodge
graceful flare
craggy dagger
#

what kekhands

abstract grail
#

Well yeah, just assumed more people would lean towards Shadow since it'd be easier to fit into variety of teams

graceful flare
autumn vault
craggy dagger
abstract grail
#

True!

craggy dagger
graceful flare
#

Is regieleki good for trick room

solid frigate
craggy dagger
abstract grail
craggy dagger
solid frigate
autumn vault
graceful flare
#

Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 140 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 52 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Protect
  • Iron Head
  • Play Rough
  • Swords Dance
autumn vault
#

And with all the tailwind going around it is even stupider

solid frigate
craggy dagger
graceful flare
craggy dagger
#

in crowned form

craggy dagger
solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

cause if you’re running tailwind imo it’s better to be able to outspeed the bikes when tailwind it up

#

hm-
then 250 might be a bit much for me

#

(that’s under tw)

#

i like the idea of being able to outspeed scarf shifu though

solid frigate
#

226 Speed with Tailwind for 60 Speed EVs for Terapagos

craggy dagger
#

owhhhh
i run 156 modest

abstract grail
craggy dagger
#

and 12 SpA-

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

caly S 222 Speed
Urshifu Scarf is 223 in Adamant

craggy dagger
#

ok so i over killed speed

autumn vault
#

What other complaint do you have?

graceful flare
#

How many ev in speed to out speed max speed korai and mirqi

craggy dagger
autumn vault
#

And everyone here

craggy dagger
#

it wasn’t a complaint i was just curious that’s all

#

info collecting for more team building

graceful flare
solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

yeah

solid frigate
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

That Torn is ev'd to survive Surging Strikes and LO Astral Barrage from CSR

#

Max speed timid

#

And then dumped rest on SpA to have a little more firepower and be more useful against Amoonguss

foggy lodge
#

A Gyaradooos

abstract grail
foggy lodge
#

Triple hands lmao

graceful flare
#

How many extra ev from knocking out mon with power item

foggy lodge
#

Nvm the ditto already died

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

Why are two songs at the same time? Lol

solid frigate
patent marsh
#

bro almost got it lmao

graceful flare
#

How many ev are allowed on a mon

#

Altogether

craggy dagger
autumn vault
#

Its actually 510 but 2 of the evs are completely useless, so there are 508 usable evs

onyx crown
#

Alright. Let's have a hypothetical moment here.
Let's say there's this guy, who's kinda new. He obtains a Volcanian from a very kind player. Let's say in this hypothetical that Mythicals were indeed allowed in competitive.
How would one build a Volcanian to be good?

#

This is definitely just hypothetical and has nothing to do with something that's a genuine question of mine

bold geode
#

We don't really do hypotheticals tbh

mighty stump
#

Could probably find sets on Smogon

chrome knot
#

what is your hypothetical reaction

bold geode
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Hypothetically you didn't follow Zombieland logic and double tap

onyx crown
mighty stump
#

Maybe

#

Just maybe

#

We don't talk about shooting people

chrome knot
#

sorry

mighty stump
#

It ok

chrome knot
#

hypothetically i clothesline you and you hit your head @bold geode

mighty stump
#

We can shoot Pokemon but not people

chrome knot
#

we’re in the wrestling ring

#

its WWE we’re the main event

bold geode
chrome knot
#

well you can’t see him either why me first

bold geode
#

I'm on the floor kekhands

onyx crown
#

Lost opportunity to get Incineroar to dropkick someone

bold geode
odd bolt
# onyx crown Alright. Let's have a hypothetical moment here. Let's say there's this guy, who'...

Ok then so Volcanian is suprisingly bulky, with very high Def. (120) and good SpD.(90). In a hypothetical where it was allowed I'd run it with an Assault Vest(or choice specs to make use of it's 130 SpA. ) The moves I'd reccomend using are Steam Eruption, Overheat, Scald/Flame Charge, and Sludge Wave. Using Smogon for EV investment EVs: 252 HP / 60 SpA / 196 SpD. Enjoy the hypotheticals

odd bolt
onyx crown
# odd bolt YW

I can't thank you enough. Me and the lad are hypothetically going to destroy whoever we wish to

gentle cragBOT
bold geode
chrome knot
#

uhm

graceful flare
#

I have 166 speed on zacian where do rest ev go

chrome knot
#

can i get like an ogerpon water friend

#

otherwise im boutta die

bold geode
#

Possibly

#

Without it Emma's like

onyx crown
#

Suddenly, a hypothetical Machamp bursts onto the stage

onyx crown
graceful flare
molten oasis
#

I got to meet moxie

solid frigate
graceful flare
bold geode
#

Love movie boosted

solid frigate
graceful flare
#

I hate moxie boosted gym channel but I like moxie boosted

#

I put 166 speed Into zacian ev spread how should I put rest ev please

autumn vault
solid frigate
graceful flare
#

Wym u know ue has 2 channels right?

#

I like people talking abt vgc but idrk watching people actually playing the game

autumn vault
#

Don't want to say the product name

graceful flare
#

It's chz I dot like gameplay and would rather have him talking more than playing

graceful flare
autumn vault
#

Also the p in sups is actually a b

#

So its subs

graceful flare
#

I see

graceful flare
patent marsh
#

I thought wolfe had more than 1k points?

bold geode
#

Honestly you should watch gameplay more lol

bold geode
#

Came in not best timing my bad

foggy lodge
patent marsh
#

No the stream rn

#

Is showing top 16 for NA in terms of points

#

Giovanni Costa is on there

foggy lodge
#

Oh cool

#

So he already classfied to day 2?

patent marsh
#

Dunno they said the top 12 gets game 1 bye

#

No more day 2 skip

bold geode
#

Wat

patent marsh
#

They're showing NA and EU points placement

bold geode
#

I got it, but I didn't hear

patent marsh
#

They said top 12 gets travel prize award and game 1 bye and no more day 2 skip in this season

bold geode
#

So they gonna be 1-0 in Worlds if they top 12 here

patent marsh
#

Yea

bold geode
#

Damn
Still a tiny advantage, but still reasonable

patent marsh
#

I mean free travel is nice

forest arrow
#

cant complain about that

patent marsh
#

I'm still confused where wolfe was on that list

bold geode
#

Yeah but also having to win one less game to Day 2 essentially

patent marsh
#

Since he won 2 regionals and 1 finalist in total this season iirc

solid frigate
#

which should crank him points

patent marsh
#

So points wise he should be high no?

rustic mountain
bold geode
#

Yeah but you have others who have grinded all thru the season whereas Wolfe has only done 4 events

rustic mountain
#

so that alone is huge

patent marsh
#

Don't regional win give like 450-500 points or something?

bold geode
#

Wolfe has a free flight RN lol
He won that one online tour

dawn crown
#

does anyone have a gholdengo set