#competitive_discussion
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Speed ivs?
o fuck I forgot to filter for low LOL oml its prob gonna be 31 with my lujck
its fine we here af now
Its not like Cress needs 0 Spe anw
I’m just gonna assume then
I’m new to competitive and was wondering if this team has any sort of competitive viability
Alolan Ninetails
Kyurem White
Chien-Pao
Tornadus
Rilaboom
Incinaroar
cress is 7spe
POG
I would remove all of the pokemon there and use calyrex shadow rider in every slot
Oh okay
Don't listen to that garbage lol
@graceful flare I have you blocked, but I will not tolerate misinformation/troll advice in this channel towards people asking for help
Next time, that's a warning.
How long do these hunts take wow
Team looks fine, I would trade out Chien-Pao for Urshifu-RS to create standard FWG since those three a very strong backbone with Rilla and Incin. I don't exactly see what Pao provides for this team since you have strong ice types available already
This also provides another resist for Steel type moves. Another alternative to Urshifu RS is Raging Bolt
oooo-
that looks good to me
tofu-
why not chi yu on that team?
to get more out of blizzard Kyu White?
Its a good team but like Tofu said i would remove Chien Pao for the reasons he stated
ig double fire types is a bit wonky though so
Because incin is already in the team
i run both-
I was just thinking about it because of the dark to get rid of calyrex
def not a good idea but if you can manage having to swap around and play your resists and stuff you can have both
Urshifu-RS with tera water and scarf can actually murder CSR easily
shifu will also get the job done-
iirc if you’re scarfed you outspeed a natural 252+ calyrex
You got Incineroar. in that case I can also trade out Incineroar for Chi-Yu as moonbeam said
And it can empower Kyu-W
Raging Bolt also does well against CSR with Snarl access of its own
So should I use incineroar or chi yu
If not, EWeb so Kyu-W can outspeed and deal Spread
i’d use incin for now since chi yu can be a bit hard to manage
@craggy dagger you want McDonald's brekky? My mobile order went thru twice 😭
Thank you
Up to you, it's whatever you're more comfortable with. Incineroar is "techinically easier" since its spamming Fake Out and stuff
Depends on what you want, a disruptive pokemon or an offensive one
Chi-Yu is pretty fire and forget
Simp
but less defensive, so it's harder to come in on
yessss-
baby chi yu is the bestttt
Okay okay
wha-
how’d that happen-
Now should I run raging bolt or Urshifu
Is komo o good for fighting type and against pagos
Idk, I just got food x2 here 😭
Guys I need urgent help I can't get railed by that fiend terapagos
Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt
Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar
Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.
I use caly shadow
Again, preference. If you're unsure, I recommend just testing out the different variations. Are you familiar with Showdown?
Yes
Yeah
Dragon/Fighting
Bulletproof, Soundproof, Overcoat (Hidden)
75/110/125/100/105/85
600
78.2kg (80 BP)
1.6m
Generation 7
Kommo-o-Totem
Hakamo-o
Dragon
M: 50%, F: 50%
Gray
So I would make a team with:
- Raging Bolt + Chi-Yu
- Raging Bolt + Incin
- Urshifu + Incin
- Urshifu + Chi-Yu
I personally thing Urshifu + Chi-Yu is the least wanted combination, since both want Scarf in my opinion
Either or can run Sash, but it gets a bit awkward
So i'd be inclined towards the first 3 variations
Is good against terapagos?
Alright alright makes sense
My mind is telling me to go with Incin
I’m running assault vest kyurem, is that optimal?
Yes actually
If Kyu-W is taking AV, Raging Bolt can run LO/Magnet/Booster Energy
I also recommend Bolt runs Tera Electric for offensive items
And grind up money to buy stuff 😭
If you want to check fyour sets agian later, you can just send the paste here
Just, make sure you don't listen to misleading/pointless statements like the one initially given.
yesssss
scarf chi yu is usually the way to go
I only read thw thing tofu tagged me in now
I can't believe it it's just a game like he obviously knows I'm joking stop taking it so seriously go to the gym or hang out with your friends sometimes instead of being so serious abt pokemon all day @mighty stump
chi yu is by no means bulky-
but this set can take a rain boosted mystic water ss after tera-
as well as its calced to be at 247 spe (which outspeeds scarf shifu, caly shadow, uhhhh…)
anyways yeah
Lycoris (Chi-Yu) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass/Water
EVs: 76 HP / 4 Def / 188 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tera Blast
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Overheat
Did u type that?
yeah
Ain't no way bro typed all that💀
haha funny 4x weakness to fairy?
gets nuked instantly by shifu if you tera steel-
nuked by shadow rider if you’re tera ghost-
nuked if tera fighting-
uhhh-
iron defense go brrr-
but taunt absolutely wrecks you-
uhhh-
both bikes will tear you to shreds

the only time i used kommo-o was for clangourus soul dancer baton pass-
Ok but then what can I do to just not get railed by terapagos again I remember once I had 3 mons and a terapagos player had terapagos only and swept my whole team
Clangorous soul scales is so fun but unfortunately it’s just kinda not desirable coversge
IDBP is the Kommo-o set rn
Depressing damage output
That too
huh-
no that was for last regulation 
Like, you’d think it hurt more than it does
You’d run both in VGC
i just setup and baton pass out
Oh I see
That’s, why
Just use clear amulet and go max spD max attack, or I like to do 100 hp 156 attack and then 252 spD
Adamant
Or should I get rid of rilla for av hands
i thought it was 156 hp 100 atk
Was it?

That’s what I’ve been running it’s been fine
Just use clear amulet
Rilla can also use clear amulet
Iron Hands @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 156 SpD
Adamant Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Heavy Slam
- Drain Punch
- Wild Charge
- Fake Out
oh-
what the-
That’s just, what?
oh not for this reg-
i just dug up a hands set i used from a while back
i think 156 hp 100atk adamant works-
252SpD
THATS FROM REG E WTF
The Tofu GodHands spread
yes
Oh wait actually I'm not surviving a starstruck without av
Oh it is 156 hp
I can't belive I didn't realise until now
Ok, I got it mixed up a few days ago
Ok I'm gonna remove rilla for av hands
Just give it clesr amulet or miracle seed then, the rilla
You don’t need to remove it
But the whole point of hands is to beat terapagos and other normal and dark types
Like incin
I meant give it to the rillaboom, and you don’t beat incin without clear amulet
You’ll get wisped/intimidated
Ok ogwrpon wellspring for incin and av hands
Ok then rock pon and av hands
Focus sash for urshifu
Urshifu ignores intimidate with its signature critting t
But I'm using it on calyrex
Go choice scarf
Every time I use scarf I get fake out and then one shot
Tera ghost
Or play better
Sounds more like a you problem
If that’s what ALWAYS happens
Ok ok then walking wake for incon
…
It's a sp attacker
Learn how to use urshifu rapid strike
There's no way I'm using a scarf urshfou agaon

It’s one of the best offensive tools in the format
Yes, use it
But I'll use sash but calyrex has it
You’re not gonna improve if you don’t try
You just got unlucky, thats all
Ok I'll try scarf shiju
Scarf is really good
Caly can also use covert or bulky sitrus
Ok bye bye tera shards
Do you not test anything in showdown?
I have indeedee
No
Acc I can run water bc I have indeede
Why
Testing in showdown is prep for cart, and also doesn’t have you wasting resources
Yes
Ohh bc showdown seems empty
It seems lifeless
Bc the pokemon uave no animations and stuff
…you should try it out anyway
Developers don’t really have the time to make animations for a website that runs VGC enough for practice reasons
Like, better animations
2d sprites also have a good chunk of moving sprites if that interests you
I won the game and knocked out 2 out of 4 mons they had and nearly knocked out their calyrex with tera water strikes
You still waiting for plane or
Oh I don’t get on the plane for 3 hours
I’m on the transportation to the airport, almost there tho
Wtf are you
I wanted to be early incase something popped up
That an
Airport security sucks ass
But also time to go get lunch
I mean yeah it's normal
I just thought I read earlier that he was there 5 1/2 hours early and I'm like wtf
Bitch what
Fuck bro, that's a Big Mac though
Of course you'd think of a big mac you fatty
Hey fuck you
I'm actually gonna look into gyms and shit once I'm back from vacation
Time for this monkey to get in shape
Ok Chimp
Hey you won't be laughing when I'm jacked
Be jacked like a chimp, can rip a mfer in half long ways just for the fuck of it
Ok
You ever see a bald chimp
Oh ok maybe I delete that cuz it's tits lol
(Mods don't get me)
But you see how jacked that mfer is
Chimps are fuckin strong dude
I can attest to that.
Oh bro I loved it when Tarzan was raised by Grotillas
You take care of chimps before?
Not me. You need a permit and they cannot be conscious.
Even at the zoo, only the senior + zoo techs
Oh I was starting to say
You got pictures if you did
Tranquilising them is the most difficult thing.
They cant use dart guns cause they can catch the dart mid air and throw them back
The one picture I will never forget is of the sheep Tofu
and easily lift 90kg
WAIT ACTUALLY
So you're telling me they just catch them mfers like Goku catching bullets
They showed us CCTV footage of their oldest, obese, geriatric chimp with shot knees lifting the senior who was sitting on her as restraint
90 kg
tranquilised
I don't fuck with chimpanzees.
Those grotillas can be scary
Yes i said grotillas intentionally
sheesh
they must have some dense mucles
Idk
I think airports sometimes hvae good vibes
floor sitting next to a charging port is as authentic as can be
My stuff is charged but yea
It’s not the worst but I’d rather a chair
I’ll have to figure out how to kill 5 hours
5 hour flight time?
No I’m not gonna play vgc for 5 hours, but maybe for a little bit. I also wanna mark down lines, no layover
I have plans for my flights
Probably just chill
Look around the airport
Lol
That's what id do
Although
Idk what your airports are like
Wtf bro
Real, walking around nice
Take in the vibes
They’re pretty, I like the architecture
Yeah no don't fuck with chimps
Tofu you work with any monkeys though?
Oooh got pics
Time to go look into shops that I won’t buy anything from 
Yeah but im not near my phone atm
(I won’t less money for zacian souvenir)
$50-$150 bucks
I looked online for zacian plushies and I saw some zama plushies for a similar price
That was me lol
Me like doggo though 😭
I will always be a Zamazenta Stan now yes
Expect Zamazenta play in double restricted too lol
I think we all know
Hey.....
I'm using Gholdengo now
Goated
I'm not proud of it ok
Although double steel is, smth
For what purpose
I'm doing my dog dirty
still hate double steel
I'm not using Zamazenta rn though
I got Gholdengo cuz I needed something for Zamazenta MU
But I might have to come to terms with it if I plan on using rain, oh I see
What restricted then?
I showed you already lol
You did?
It's the thing I burnt Drago
Kyogre if you want to use rain
Just tell me the restricted
Bruh
It’s not that hard
Oh is this the secret thing u were cooking?
Drago has a memory like my dad
Not there
Hes using Shaymin
I don’t remember pastes when I’m sleep deprived
Yeah I'm using Shaymin guys
Tofu why'd you expose me

Shaymin you
No, shayme on you
These puns make me wanna, eat some odd ice cream
See all the people who know, I told not to say anything lol
The masses ain't gonna know until I release this shit
Lol
try some wasabi flavoured ice cream then
I’m gonna be playing kyogre for a while I need to learn it
or just have
Durian ice cream is good
Just know it's stupid, but it actually works
I feel like you missed what I was going for
This exists? Spicy ice cream?
Oh I like those
I like wasabi
also
one of the weirdest and nicest ice cream ive had
is
caramelised garlic
That’s a thing?
In Edinburgh theres an artisanal ice cream bar
Everything is handmade with local ingredients and fresh
Wow I feel like I’m too simple lol
They do limited flavours all the time
Black sesame
caramelised garlic
peanut/coconut and chilli
Thyme and white chocolate
very delicious
high quality
incredibly affordable
Oh, that sounds good tbh
Ali’s Ice cream?
Mary's Milk Bar
Gonna have to figure out what spots to visit in New Orleans
Throw suggested some place
Ooo and a 4.7 on reviews
i would argue 4.7 is low
It’s that good?
For me personally, undeniably the best ice cream for price, taste, and variety
it's so good I got a girl to come back to my place for it during a date so
LOL
That’s awesome
tofu wanna see the collection now
Yes
i played a bit before i left for work
Curious if anyone else here is going up to NAIC
That I don’t know of
Ik Dillon and Yotam are going
You should probably go and see if you can meet up w Yotam and Dillon
Figured out the issue... somehow my clefairys ability got changed from friend guard so moves I would usually just tank weren't being tanked lol
You’re so right
I think Keanu might be?
Maybe
Iirc
I’ll hit ‘em up sometime today
I don’t get to do shit today so
My entire day is flights
You either got very lucky or did RNG manips succesfully, also great theme
uu
what website should I use to plan my teams
Showdown for testing. Munchstats/Pokestats for data to look at.
thxs
New Orleans I am inside you
Seek God
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138189198 any advice for this game? i feel like i was in a good position at first but messed up somehow
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Lol you dropped Iron Hands and kept Lunala on the field trying to do damage when Terapagos was just gonna eat all the hits.
Sometimes you can just switch the Lunala slot even if you're set up
yeah i know i wanted to get hands on the field but was scared of an attack
Also Turn 3 you can just get rid of Sableye so much sooner
Like
The Moonblast into Terapagos was so pointless
Knock Off into Terapagos early would also have reduced the amount of healing it took
oh yeah i shouldve just killed the sabelye earlier
Youre lucky they also just didnt target correctly on Turn 6
Turn 9 you shuold have just identified that Iron Hands was important and Incineroar could have switched in freely
Instead of eating Wood Hammer like that
Or just Moonblast to break Tera Shell then Drain Punch into Pagos
so swap lunala for incin there?
No
Read it again
Iron Hands is important
Incineroar can switch in
Who do you switch
Then Moongeist into Parting Shot would have been safe to then even Swampert into Yawn + Fake Out Iron Hands
ok so the problem seemed to be i was i kept aimlessly keeping lunala on the field and spamming moonblast, when i shouldve identified hands as the way to victory and use that
is that is?
Good job
Wow, did Tofu just teach someone how to read
What's going on with pikalytics not being updated?
Probably people just not updating it anymore
Munchstats and Pokestats are pretty good.
by the way, if incin isnt holding goggles would the next best thing be sitrus? Even though CIR and CSR are out and about
Those are better anyways since they update faster than pikalytics and actually show teras
Pikalytics has more formats
Those 3 have their pros and cons but pikalytics is the worst
But still not a bad one
I lost a speed tie 4 turns in a row

True
Insane how just having clefairys ability changed on accident tanked me 300 points lol
What was the tie?
Changed it back to friend guard and back up to 1550 lol
Hello, Husbando de la Incineroar
Ho-oh/ting lu is my new favorite core
Is it the team from yesterday?
Scarf shif and scarf shif
U never know they could be jolly
It wsnt
OTS?
I moved first when I attacked their calyrex but then every other time i moved second
I lost 4 games in a row
Unlucky
I usaly get one win every 10 7 ish games
Is 236 spdef and def and the rest of ev into hp good
Incin I forgot to mention
Nah u want to invest most into HP
Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Parting Shot
- Knock Off
- Flare Blitz
this is a spread off munchstats, its a fast mode one
if u want u can change the nature and speed evs to how u prefer, but HP should be at least in the 200s im pretty sure
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 100 Def / 140 SpD / 28 Spe
Careful Nature
- Parting Shot
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Knock Off
This is a slower version of OTOT's set
I'm on a 5 game losing streak
ditto???
Yes
oof
Damn
Should I use av
depends, if thats what u feel is needed
I'll have to use u turn instead of parting shot
Anyone wanna join my draft league
I finally won a game
Nice
I just learned that weezing stops dondozo right in his tracks lmao
I remember seeing this in Wolfes wheezing vid, truly a “nuh uh” moment

No elaboration, just skill issue
Kyogre @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 148 HP / 100 Def / 196 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Origin Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Thoughts on this? Lives hh boosted cc from 252+ adamant shifu and most grassy glides
Also outspeeds timid scarf kyogre under tw
Most grassy glides?
It should be living all no problem
Anyways yeah it looks good
I say most cuz like, choice band or Tera grass
Um what the sigma
I haven't seen that word in a very long time
Bro hasn't used tiktok💀
Now i am suspicious about something
Why would i use tiktok?
I don't use it at all
Whats wrong with that?
People on tiktok sau it all tje time
The sigma meme is dead but on tiktok dragging the sigma meme is a meme
Do i look like i care about that?


Real sigma use 252 hp 252 Spa and 4 def on pago
Guys I finally learned that mirajdon and koraidom are actually good bc their ability are basically built in damage multipliers
well done
#BullyMonke
Fruit tastes better when you can grow it in your backyard, change my mind.
welcome back to the present
Good night
I can’t go to bed I have another flight

You couldn't get a flight to New Orleans from where you were?
gimme drink
also told irl group we WILL be going to vancouver regional next szn
It was way more expensive so no
yah-
you better come here cause i’m gonna participate
Is wuthering waves good
I was looking through showdown out of boredom and I saw Masquerain has alot of fun utilities. Intimidate, Tailwind, and u-turn. They even have sticky web, wich I think is more of a singles thing? I'm kinda curious if Masquerain is ever used in SV vgc?
I assume the really crap bulk holds em back but I was curious if they had any uses cause they seem to have some neat tools that can be fun if used by experienced/skilled people.
Bug/Flying
Intimidate, Unnerve (Hidden)
70/60/62/100/82/80
454
yeah those stats arent very impressive
Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Aqua Jet, Bug Bite, Double-Edge, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fell Stinger, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Leech Life, Liquidation, Lunge, Natural Gift, Pounce, Quick Attack, Return, Secret Power, Skitter Smack, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Waterfall
Air Cutter, Air Slash, Blizzard, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Bug Buzz, Chilling Water, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Gust, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Infestation, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Psybeam, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Silver Wind, Snore, Solar Beam, Struggle Bug, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball
Agility, Attract, Baton Pass, Captivate, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Foresight, Haze, Helping Hand, Mimic, Mind Reader, Mist, Mud Sport, Nightmare, Power Split, Protect, Psych Up, Quiver Dance, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Soak, Sticky Web, String Shot, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Tailwind, Toxic, Water Sport, Whirlwind
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Masquerain.
Yeah.
and the moveset aint unique, one use though could be using aqua jet on weaknesspolicy + weak armour armourouge + intimidate, but thats all i got
Highest Masquerain replay on MunchTeams rn https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2129509552
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speaking of which, i really need to update that rn lol
Hmmm, interesting. Just a silly though I got from seeing Tail Wind and intimidate on the same mon lol.
lol called the weakness policy aqua jet at least
also snarl zama looks like to could be cool in double restricted
LOL
what was that game lol
It was peak
oh actually, new Masquerain player just dropped as soon as I updated MunchTeams. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138221807
Spoiler: It set tailwind and died.
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Pierreboss123 and aceawesome200! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: Jun 6, 2024
I respect that
I wish more people actually said “gg” after close matches on showdown instead leaving immediately.
Ye
Especially if it’s quite literally down to a damage roll
Idk, it’s just something I’m used to seeing in literal every other competitive game I play lol
i dont say gg while on mobile. if they talked at least once or say "glhf" in the beginning, i reply with "you too" and say gg at the end
So really thinking of swapping incineroar for volcarona
My biggest issues are fighting types like kiradon, urshifu and feel like incineroar is just a sitting duck to get swapped into lol


im play a bdsp rom hack that makes it into platinum and i wanted to ask for opinions on my team.
my team consists of swablu, metang, monferno, marshstomp, vileplume, and rotom freeze. any opinions of what pokemon to get ride of etc?
Whats the Best moveset and tera type for follow me clefairy in yalls opinion
Is it worth running farigiraf if I am using galarian slowking on an ice rider calyrex trick room team?
Tera Water
With Follow Me,Heal Pulse,Protect and either After You or Moonblast
depends
I am thinking about running slowking for trick room and chilling reception.
Thanks
hmmmmmmm
wouldn't that be Hard TR?
Yes because slowking and caly ice will get deleted by caly s
slap an Incineroar
Wdym?
I hate calyrex shadow's existance
I also have a strategy to deal with calyrex shadow
what is it then
the run button
Me with Terapagos Chi Yu:
just slap some actual good partners that deals with those threats
So
yeah I probably should add pokemon that can deal with calyrex shadow
Incin is one of the better ones
I have a fake out intimidate litten already. Major problem is if I want parting shot I need to get it.
Fairy
Intrepid Sword
92/120/115/80/115/138
660
Zacian-Crowned
Depends on the item
I got a shiny zacian and zamazenta and I want to use them
Fairy/Steel
Intrepid Sword
92/150/115/80/115/148
700
Zacian
u-turn then
Why does crowned zacian get faster but crowned zamazenta get slower
idfk
I guess shields are heavier than swords
well in some cases swords are heavy,but those are claymores
I think it makes sense that zamazenta carrying that huge hunk of metal on its face would make it slower
And zacian has an aerodynamic design I guess
fair point
I wish calyrex was banned from the format cause then I wouldn't ever have to deal with the most broken pokemon of all time.
Calyrex is too silly for this meta
my eyes
I should just make a time to beat shadow rider calyrex and only shadow rider calyrex
Then what do you do when the opponent has something else
I think av incin is pretty good for csr
Really tempted to run tropius atm
Why
why tho
Zama is probably a good chunk heavier than Zac is
Yeah I also think it is.
Wide guard and tw
Wait doesn't it have wide guard chlorophyll
pelipper exists
Pelipper explodes to bolt and miraidon
You want me to list on the things tropius explodes to?
I don’t want to, wrong reply
Well jumpluff explodes to everything and it's cool in sun too
Flutter Mane on a non TR team sometimes (aka under tailwind) is another good calyrex counter.
Grass/Flying
Chlorophyll, Solar Power, Harvest (Hidden)
99/68/83/72/87/51
460
Oh no 51 speed nvm
You think it have a higher base stat total
that armor weighs about 1200 lbs
fighting a specs Pagos
Grass/Flying
Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)
75/55/70/55/95/110
460
Ok that’s 100% why zama gets slower
Same bst
Nope CM
I mean I kinda understand the logic if you were going for wide guard tw guy but tropius explodes to miraidon same as pelipper
Yo where you going
Huge
the dude
Toilet
Toilet duck
Toilet Birb
How is orthworm so busted
it blows up to any special fire hit or physical fighting hit
The rental team I am playing doesn't have a special fire move on anything
it also set up way too much
I really need to make a team with Chi-yu on it
So I probably should actually catch one
How common is scarf calyrex shadow?
Rank 8 now
Chi Yu Terapagos is great trust :>
I am not much of a terapagos fan
I was watching the final between Wolfey and Neil again and i don't understand the play of terastallizing Chien-Pao
he throw so hard lol
Scarf Chi-Yu should be able to outspeed an ohko a calyrex shadow which doesn't have a choice scarf.
Meanwhile Urshifu: Scarf outspeeds Calyrex Shadow by 1
what is 149 times 1.5
caly S is 222 max speed
Major problem is both my urshifus are water (mostly cause the nickname on my one from sword sucks and I forgot to change it before I transferred it up.)
Urshifu Water is good
like its slappable
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow in Rain on a critical hit: 192-228 (109.7 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
kek
then what playstyle+Gameplan do you want to play in Reg G
I am trying to think
Think about the legendary first
Terapagos is kinda the only one-
Scarf Chi-yu
The best partners for Chi-Yu are uhh
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Terapagos, Caly Shadow or Miraidon
One of the most unique teams I have played against lol
there is no Yveltal in this game So Terapagos is the only choice that i would say consistent
And it almost best me
You can take advantage that Chi-Yu finally has good partners in this reg that aren't Flutter Mane lol
kek
So my only option is miraidon then?
My plan is to predict the calyrex lead and ohko.
I also kinda just want to use Chi-Yu rather than build the team around using it.
go Miraidon then
My Mind:Terapagos Terapagos Terapagos
I have no idea what miraidon really does though.
Choice Specs Sets
I still don't really know what it do
Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid/Modest Nature
- Discharge
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Volt Switch
it nukes stuff
i still like Terapagos more against Caly Shadow due to Natural MU and Chi Yu+ Turtle is funni
Do you terrastalize your terapagos every time?
nope
i actually relied less on Tera Terapagos
Terastal form is quite nice
basically Caly S be like
Throw a fish at it
i’m still a caly s believer 🙏
Cowardly strat
nuh uh
Caly s runs redirection so you need spread
Snarl Fish
It goes tera fairy
Me when i pick my restricted
real asf
also kyorge
more like
midorge
I am a rain team enjoyer
thats why Chi Yu and Terapagos works due to if you Tera,Terapagos Food,if you do not Tera,Chi Yu Food
i mean its better than Groudon
tell that to Precimiss Blades
gambling is where the fun is at 🔥🔥🔥
you can say the same thing to Kyogre
nah midorge is a bum 🙏
Team Magma vs Team Aqua be like
team magma was always cooler 🔥🔥🔥
https://pokepast.es/c60ea7300794416e
also made a Ho-Oh Team for fun
I'm half tempted to make a rain team
honestly go for it
there are multiple teams liek Rain
I have played a lot of rain in the chaotic cursed format I play with some of my friends.
So I have a decent amount of experience using rain.
Zacian,Zamazenta,Caly Ice,Kyogre,Palkia(Not sure) and Terapagos all like Rain
I have zacian. I have Caly Ice. And I have Kyogre. I have plakia in legends (not sure about the orb that makes it origin). And I have Terapagos but I won't let you win.
You will not convert me to terapagos
Commence Glooging
What does that even mean
and trust me,Terapagos is very good
I don't want to use it
well good luck on fighting Calyrex-
Really rain dance for a rain setter
Actually kinda good though
Especially if you sometimes don't want rain
But want your rain setter
Manual Rain is better honestly,lets you control the weather war in a Different way
Yeah. I might start running a weather move when I run tornadus on rain.
I feel it would be fun to run an off meta legendary to confuse people.
oh boi
then again its either close Team Sheet or Open Team Sheet
and i seen worse
I am only really planning on doing ladder
ok so close team sheet then(Idk maybe you can try OTS)
open team sheets
you can see the opponents Moves,Items and Tera types
its how we refer as Open Team Sheets so yeah
Kyurem white i am not sure but i can give the set
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138451976 alright so this was a crazy good match up, but can someone explain to me how the Draco meteor did more dmg the second time?
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Kyurem-White @ Assault Vest
Ability: Turboblaze
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 244 HP / 36 Def / 164 SpA / 28 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Freeze-Dry
- Fusion Flare
- Earth Power
is it a crit?
ok its either a roll or idk
I'm actually baffled
There's no way it should have done more even with a max roll at -2
This is pretty much what I was going for. The EVs are a little precise (I use items for them cause I am too lazy to ev train) meaning I need a large number of feathers if I wanted to do it exactly.
But like I'm not crazy right? There's no way that should have happened
yeah i sa that as well
Nvm I'm slow...
Unaware makes it to where his -2 doesn't matter
Sorry. Wrong channel
Unaware is good for setup mons like caly s and zama
Ya dozo is usually my koraidon, zama, and kyogre counter lol
I just usually don't drop stats so didn't even think about it lol
I want to run skeledirge again but it'd get nuked by a lot of things
I've seen it a couple times pretty rare though
When I did play against it, it outsetup my turtle lol
They used it with grimmsnarl and I just couldn't KO it fast enough before it got to many boosts
Pretty sure it was Assault vest as well
Damn, skeledirge behind screens would be pretty tanky
Would tornadus be any good on a white kyurem team
Yes for snowscape
Yeah that is what I was thinking. Along with tailwind
I wonder if fish works for the team
And by fish I mean Chi-Yu
I have no idea how to teambuild well
Teambuilding is a separate skill on its own. If you're new, I suggest rental teams with explanations on how to use them first. Then teambuilding with a core you've used before.
I have experience playing Kyogre, Archaludon, Tornadus outside of SV if that is a core
hoi Pizza
hoi
i have a thought on Replacing Cresselia with Archaludon for more offense lol
the GOAT honestly
and i have its Shiny
so i will use it
Is this a good core?
Why did farigiraf kyogre fall off?
Kyogre itself kinda fell off lol
its still top 10 Restricted
I almost never see it, I'm always caly ice caly shadow terapgosa Mirador kariadon zacian and zama
Kinda crazy if you think about it though all 6 of the newest restricted are the best lol
i mean it makes sense
Gen 8-9 Restricteds are busted
Feels like the others need buffs lol
true
Lunala and Kyogre are close tho
also just saying Archaludon is kinda nice to have against Caly Ice
I want team that can just deal with all the broken stuff in the meta.
But then if that sort of team was good it would be the meta
Cause if it could beat most of the big threats there wouldn't be much reason not to use it.
I really just need to figure out a good team I like.
Is there any realm of existence where baxcalibur would be meta relevant
Two likelihoods:
- Stuff that’s been figured out are still good and just skill diff your opponents
- Stuff that might be anti-meta is kept under wraps
Probably not. But it doesn’t mean unusable
Just make sure whatever you’re running doesn’t want Clear Amulet.
finally arrived
Is it better to run wellspring ogerpon or rilaboom on a kyruem white snow team
Ogerpon is of course better rilaboom is more respectable
They do two different things.
Depends on why you need them.
Wellspring helps with dealing with fire types for snow, solid for snow teams
I was thinking that instead of using rilaboom that wellspring can provide bulk and counter urshifu better
Well
It’s been rather proven that Wellspring doesn’t stop Urshifu-RS, especially if it gets to spam Close Combat.
Against Wellspring it also gets the opportunity to U-Turn
Snow providing +1 Def, Incin with -1 and resisting Surging Strikes means you already have the tools to deal with Urshifu
Rillaboom would probably still be more ideal
That, and A9 in itself can deal with Urshifu as well, both forms.
Oh yeah that’s true
If you’re still concerned about Urshifu-RS, that’s just another + to add Raging Bolt as a check as well
I'm really liking the volcarona addition to my team lol
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I have no idea what restricted legendaries are even good.
Both Calyrex,Terapagos,Koraidon,Miraidon,Zacian,Zamazenta,Kyogre,Lunala
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138499708 this is what happens to karaidon lol
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Koraidon/Zacian require better piloting to find the same success while Lunala has hit/miss matchups
but top 10 wise,i think they are definitely in here
doesnt make wat tofu said any less tru
Are there any that don't really have to be built around?
I prefer teams that synergies all together rather than ones that rely on one or two pokemon.
Those teams that require all those moving parts to interact with each other to function almost always function worse than those that interact well with each other due to being independently good pieces.
All good teams synergise. Just not in the sense people who want synergy to do so
Synergy-baiting is a very real trap people fall into when making teams.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2138505861 I think it was you tofu that suggested dozogiri this thing is an absolute unit lol.
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Makes sense.
When it works, it works.
As long as I can stay clear of crits and clear smog I'm good lol
Anyhow, you can find teams in the VGC repository to your liking. Some might even have reports/notes attached
Where is that? Is this it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=418553327#gid=418553327 ?
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Good thing Clear Smog is fairly uncommon then. Although with the amount of set-up I might expect it to pick up the tiniest amount.
Yes.
Yeah clear smog hurts my team nasty lol as both my strats involve setup
We got our asses kicked 😭
yea
I have actually played around with a rental team from there on ladder already.
celtics are just better man, i have em in 6
Yeah
I'm still hoping, but it is looking rough
i mean anythings possible
lukas the best player in the series
but i think they r pretty outmatched
Yeah
The way Japanese players write out stats is so
It could be interpreted as code
LOL
Like
H94A252B100D36S28
Thats a set
Why does shadow rider calyrex even exist. It is just too broken
It just does.
There's 252, 100, 36, 28, and
94?
It’s not without counterplay.
94 don't even work
1 and 1 with this guy nutty matches lol that dusclops is nasty as it has haze lol
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Yeah fish exists.
94 HP
252 Atk
100 Def
36 SpDef
28 Spe
Ok that's what I figured it was, I had it lol
The JPN players include the excess 2
Ah
I had it then lol
my god.
Fighting a Eternatus stall Team-
Even with fish shadowrex is probably just gonna go terra fairy and ohko my entire team or spam draining kiss and be immortal.
At some point, they're gonna be like
Raging Bolt
011101000101
Thinking 1550 is as high as I'm getting this series lol
Beaten Eternatus Stall Team lel
The one with glimmora and tyranitar?
when they leave the game and don't say gg 😢
Eternatus,,Garganacl,Grimmsnarl,Lapras,Ting Lu
whould anyone be willing to watch a replay of mine and critique my team and the way I played?
I'm just gonna start experimenting with a miraidon team on showdown.
outside opinions probobally better then my own cause you are your own worse enemy
Does anyone know good partners for miraidon?
Whimsicott,Blood Moon Ursaluna
Why should I use whimsicott over tornadus?
Cause both of them do prankster tailwind stuff
It has Encore,Faster and if you somehow Discharge,Tornadus is weak against it, but whimsicott resisted
i don't think Shiny Matters in here but sure
Yeah I just kinda want to shiny hunt one or two of the pokemon
It doesn't matter mechanically at all
Miraidon kinda has like 1 team core being whimsicott farigiraf ursaluna Bloodmoon and then +2, typically being a mix of iron hands incineroar urshifu rapid chi yu flutter and ogerpon cornerstone/wellspring/Hearthflame
Also because it deals with Raging Bolt
Lol
Feel free to send it here
Insert Whimsicott vs Raging Bolt 1v1 moment
Style points are real trust
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for some reason showdown doesnt also save the first two thats annoying...well heres this one anyways
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What about item and other two moves?
makes sense
Moonblast and Protect
Got it.
Well from an initial look
Still have no clue about item
Does that Tornadus not have Bleakwind or something?
Focus Sash
its possible
Its Bo3
I don't remember off the top of my head
it is
I don’t think Kommo-O is an appropriate lead there
Follow Me into Fake Out + Potential Bleakwind is also just a moot move
Depending on Sinistcha to also heal a fighting type would also have just been depressing to keep eating Bleakwind
Looking back instead of bleak it was running icy\
Most appropriately in Turn 1 at least Protect Clefairy as well
@mighty stump
Is this a good whimsicott set? Mostly curios about the ivs.
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 44 HP / 244 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Protect
Depends what exactly you're aiming to support with it.
Tera grass seems maybe abit weird to me but I assume you have a reason for it
You can just do max/max special attack and speed. Dump the remainder in hp.
Timid nature so you guarantee you win speed ties with Tornadus' Prankster
Miraidon. Wait the tera I forgot
Fixed the set
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Protect
I have 1k attack on Calcharro atm im trying
I figured I'd give Wuthering Waves a shot 🤷
I've played gachas.
my jianxin has 1.5k atk 
don't
it's bad
unless they fix everything in 1.1
I don’t have 5* echos pls
instead of taking forever like genshin or not fixing it like genshin
Did you see their 1.1 patch? It seems pretty good
Lol I'm not going to whale and I make my own choices 
they didn't address the issues directly
just said "we'll do something about it in 1.1"
I want details on how good the fix is :Crying:
Well, it’s a good enough start
even with world level 5 you barely get any echo exp from tacet fields
They’ve earned the faith from the compensation
they need to like
cut down energy cost and rework all the drop loot table in tacet fields

cause people mined the loot table and even at max level you barely get any exp
I blame the CBT players for being genshin players who like to unironically pick mints and sweet flowers in genshin
Route farming just seem more efficient
the problem is the exp
What, Data Bank exp?
even if you cannibalise the bad echoes into exp you don't get enough
Oh
no to level echoes

