I rolled VGC on my backlog wheel
#competitive_discussion
spiral ridge
solid frigate
wait no DLC?
spiral ridge
I’ve been trying to DA lunala for months for this with no result
dull ibex
he can not upload it
bold geode
Scotty I will personally teach you more on VGC lol
dull ibex
pokemon does not have cloud saves
spiral ridge
Nova asked me to so nova I shall go
bold geode
Ah lol
dull ibex
thnanks!
'
craggy dagger
oh oh-
yeah no scotty needs to get through this week first
solid frigate
bold geode
oh oh-
yeah no scotty needs to get through this week first
NUH UH
spiral ridge
oh oh-
yeah no scotty needs to get through this week first
Same to you missus you have more finals
dull ibex
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2137139548 imagine playing passive
limber marsh
@dull ibex is there no way to get my old data over the cloud?
dull ibex
<@372191031044866051> is there no way to get my old data over the cloud?
nope not for pokemon
limber marsh
Wow that's crap
strange fjord
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2137139743-j1cnqe0w5jk72ynwp5b53kg3q42ik0ypw
What did I just play against?
limber marsh
Well, guess I'll be speedrunning sword soon then
craggy dagger
you can always move data from switches locally though
dull ibex
yep but it erases his progress to
craggy dagger
oh
dull ibex
only one of you can have the save
limber marsh
Lol I moved about 4000 miles away
dull ibex
F for you ig
craggy dagger
rip-
limber marsh
Appearantly so
bold geode
Appearantly so
Until then, you can actually look around via YouTube and stuff for stuff involving Koraidon and Miraidon cuz they're actually good lol
limber marsh
@bold geode so I've heard actually, I've got my koraidon mostly prepped now, just need to get his tera off of dragon lol
craggy dagger
i have a drago, eleki, ray to trade over to you if you want-
though it has to be on home
limber marsh
@craggy dagger me?
craggy dagger
yes
limber marsh
Oh shid, uhh, I don't have much of note to trade in return
craggy dagger
i’m a bit busy atm but in a bit-
craggy dagger
Oh shid, uhh, I don't have much of note to trade in return
that’s fine-
you’d want something for vgc no?
limber marsh
I would feel bad taking stuff like that tho lol
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2137144656
GRENINJA YOOOOOOO
limber marsh
So I just got ahold of a litten, what's a good ev spread for him?
solid frigate
bold geode
Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 68 Def / 156 SpD / 44 Spe
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Parting Shot
- Will-O-Wisp
- Fake Out
Just general bulk tbh
limber marsh
@bold geode thank you! I'll go for something like that then
gentle cragBOT
<@817628066020065280> thank you! I'll go for something like that then
backinthefrey has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke
limber marsh
Is there any efficient ways to farm Terra shards?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
solid frigate
Is there any efficient ways to farm Terra shards?
Tera Raids
limber marsh
Rip, i wish there was a faster option
solid frigate
the move is so sick in the name
solid frigate
Rip, i wish there was a faster option
i mean you can just stroll in Terarium or Area Zero to grab Tera Shards
i think those work
anyways
Terapaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
cyan smelt
Pago Pago
cyan smelt
Yeah the people there seem pretty clueless and the actual good players rarely chat there
solid frigate
Yeah the people there seem pretty clueless and the actual good players rarely ch...
Like they said Terapagos is a Tier-
cyan smelt
The calys and terapagos are probably s tier and everything else is below that
solid frigate
The calys and terapagos are probably s tier and everything else is below that
Calyrex,Terapagos and Zamazenta so that i will not get killed by monke
cyan smelt
Zama has bad mus like miraidon and caly s
solid frigate
Zama has bad mus like miraidon and caly s
eh maybe i am just parannoid on it
cyan smelt
So I'd say it's probably a tier with the motorcycles
solid frigate
So I'd say it's probably a tier with the motorcycles
i made this at the end of May
cyan smelt
Mewtwo will never be good again without some serious buffs
wicked moon
I didn’t even know you could use calyrex without a horse 😭
wicked moon
I just really hope lza has comp. I NEED MEGAS IN COMP PLEASE NINTENDO
cyan smelt
Iron clown
solid frigate
Iron Crown:Worse Terastal Terapagos (In Stats)
craggy dagger
Terapaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
paaaaa?
craggy dagger
Iron Crown:Worse Terastal Terapagos (In Stats)
no
craggy dagger
nvm yes
modest flare
solid frigate
Firefly fan? based
cyan smelt
Favv is always under the bed
modest flare
firefly will be mine
solid frigate
firefly will be mine
based Firefly fan
craggy dagger
hi
modest flare
craggy dagger
Firefly fan? based
WAIT YOU PLAY HSR
solid frigate
WAIT YOU PLAY HSR
plan to play it
solid frigate
and add me-
if you choose NA servers cause no server crossplay <:Huohuo_Crying:1...
i see
modest flare
modest flare
probably shouldn’t be talking bout hsr here but before I go I must relay one last thing ||I can’t beat the Sunday boss||
solid frigate
F
craggy dagger
probably shouldn’t be talking bout hsr here but before I go I must relay one las...
so ez to beat
dull pivot
How use Giratina
strange fjord
Step 1: Make a good team that supports Giratina. Likely a Calm Mind set.
Step 2: Accept the limits of the team. It's Giratina, you're not winning every match.
Step 3: Profit.
solid frigate
Step 1: Make a good team that supports Giratina. Likely a Calm Mind set.
Step 2:...
Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Telepathy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 52 SpA / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Calm Mind
- Hex
- Protect
strange fjord
Terapagos rn 
solid frigate
Walled by Normal Types
i;m not gonna use it
strange fjord
Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 92 SpA / 84 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature
- Protect
- Dragon Pulse
- Hex
- Calm Mind
Run Glimmora for Hex damage ig
mighty stump
bruh
strange fjord
buh
autumn vault
I saw it and i hate it
abstract grail
What's the recommended set for Shadow rider?
autumn vault
Also because it looks shit
abstract grail
I'm struggling to pick out what restricted suits Kommo-oh well, I'm thinking just going with Shadow since there reliable, but since people are tending to prepare well for em it might be harder If he isn't the main focus? Any advice perhaps?
charred saddle
saw lots of calm mind tera fairy draining kiss sets, its also quite strong
cyan smelt
a lot of people are running sitrus to give it more bulk
abstract grail
Mmm that could maybe work
charred saddle
items wise i saw covert cloak, lefties, sitrus. its basically leveraging bulk + set up
cyan smelt
you want to invest in bulk with evs though because you have sustain with calm mind draining kiss
charred saddle
or i think easier set is just focus sash
abstract grail
Would Calyrex be the best fit for Throat Spray Kommo-oh? Trying to find one that just kinda meshes well with em, without like completely overshadowing him ig.
charred saddle
id say like, u kinda dont want to have 2 setups in the same team
thats just my opinion
mighty stump
@bold geode You get to talk about CSR and Kommo
But no
Again
I don't recommend Throat Spray Kommo-o
charred saddle
since i like to have different plays, like i dont want to be bound and having to setup on both my main damage mon
mighty stump
Kommo-o on CSR teams have one job and it's to get rid of Normal/Dark types
charred saddle
so IDBP?
mighty stump
IDBP is the absolute best method of doing that
mighty stump
Having multi-setup in your team is fine especially if one of them is CSR
You already do damage at base
It's only an issue if you're dependent on that setup to do damage.
charred saddle
icic
abstract grail
id say like, u kinda dont want to have 2 setups in the same team
Mhm, so preferably a restricted who isn't in dire need of setup, but can take advantage of Sinisteas healing if needed? (Sorry I'm not very experienced in formats that use restricted pokemon)
bold geode
Having multi-setup in your team is fine especially if one of them is CSR
Bro
You told me it was shit
charred saddle
Having multi-setup in your team is fine especially if one of them is CSR
this @abstract grail
craggy dagger
Also because it looks shit
charred saddle
i mean it makes a lot of sense, since CSR can still do big pp dmg with no setups
charred saddle
btw talking about calm mind CSR, imagine if CIR gets bulk up
mighty stump
Lol
bold geode
Some point or another lol
charred saddle
bulk up seems fun in CIR
abstract grail
Me like Kommo-oh, he's fun
bold geode
Yeah
My current project working better than that team lol
abstract grail
Has a fun to use personal move and, really cool design. Fun mon. I think a body press set is probobally better but
I really enjoy competitive and watching competitive and stuff, but I struggle with needing to feel like...emotions? Towards my team- (as stupid as that sounds) if I'm using a team full of pokemon I don't think are particularly interesting I loose alot of enjoyment factor personally, and if that happens I'll never learn 😭 in that sense I'm probably making things harder on myself since I actively try to find uses for mons I like whilst having only been active for like a month and a half.
But heyyy, I'm having fun- I think (really more of a painful kinds fun.)
timber falcon
Then just use Pokémon u think are interesting, or build around one you really like
If it works it works
abstract grail
That be what I try to do
mighty stump
I really enjoy competitive and watching competitive and stuff, but I struggle wi...
That is fine. I have some of the same feelings. But that’s also why I put in the time and effort to get out of my own way to learn the game as thoroughly as possible so I can do what I want.
I’m not saying that your method, which is a method a lot of newer players opt for, is a bad thing to stay attached to. The negative thing is when people cannot accept facts/criticism about their play/team/choices when it’s about getting better at the game
There are many non-debatable truths for competitive pokemon, and id say more so than other competitive games
Because it’s a game of micro-adjustments and math. Numbers never lie.
The worst players are the ones that insist that using your favourites is always possible and that meta-slaving is bad, or complaining about legend-spam
Those are the absolute worst types of players who are simply not good at the game and lack understanding and enjoy their ignorance
- Top choices will always be the top for a reason
- It does not subtract skill away from people who use those mons, and in-fact those who play at the highest level play a completely different game those players won’t ever understand
- Looking past the Pokemon is important since it’s also about your thought process, mentality, and piloting skill
If you’re shit at the game, you’re shit either way
The encouragement to learn the games via the meta-way isn’t about playing the meta. It’s to give you the fundamental skills necessary so you can then think outside the box yourself.
If you can’t turn on a stove how are you supposed to cook a meal?
abstract grail
Ye for sure.
I actually think restricted mons/legends being usable is really cool! In a sense I think they help make weaker mons stand out more for soecific rolls they can fill wich is oretyy cool!(Though if it's not able to be Obtained in the game then my opinion is alittle less positive in that case)
dull ibex
I think for newer players (not you) restricted look really busted and awful for balance
but in practice they add alot to the format
tbh I was one of the players I criticize
it sucks the meta could centralize around a few of them
but literally every format forms a meta
dull ibex
I said could not that it has yet
it might not at all which helps my opinion be positive
willow vault
For me the thing I dislike about the format is not the restricted but instead simply the move encore, which is a telltale sign I am too greedy when it comes to setup or that I play to passively.
dull ibex
I do see shadow rider ice rider and tera more then anything else
but that could be a low ladder probelm
abstract grail
I think one restricted mons seems far less restrictive then two restricted mons wich is funny
mighty stump
Restricted plays the same way as any other previous format. You always had a centralised wincon in your teams anyways.
Your margin of errors are simply smaller now.
dull ibex
I very much enjoy that tbh
mighty stump
This just comes back to knowing your fundamentals means you can play in any format.
dull ibex
vgc is also hard, if you are newer try not to fall into the trap of caring about losses too much
dull ibex
god dude, I thought i was in trouble for a second
mighty stump
69 > 70
dull ibex
but POG LETS GO FUNNY NUMBER
mighty stump
I thought of Toppo
abstract grail
I think the complaint alot of new players have when it comes to that is they see like, alot if the same mons over and over sith incin, calys urshi etc. And so they get bored, and view it as unbalanced. That's what I've kinda observed so far.
mighty stump
dull ibex
I think the complaint alot of new players have when it comes to that is they see...
some veterans do this too
mighty stump
I think the complaint alot of new players have when it comes to that is they see...
That's because they lack understanding and refuse to learn the game
timber falcon
Are u just gonna leave it like that lol
dull ibex
is it possible to casually play but take it serious as well?
dull ibex
I think thats what im doing at this point tbh
mighty stump
It's perfect
If it was 69.1 i'd aim for 70 again
I've had my share of high GXEs but I havent had the exact funny number yet
abstract grail
Depends, some people do just inheritly prefer a more varied experience wich is understandable from a baseline. But generalizing it as "unbalanced" is an incorrect way to view it.
dull ibex
there are alot of unbalanced mons tbf
mighty stump
They do not understand what the consequences of a varied meta would look like.
mighty stump
Easy as that
If they view Incineroar as unbalanced they're already outright wrong.
If you want a varied meta, you're also going to have a metagame where you just lack the resources to prepare for every relevant matchup when every matchup is relevant.
willow vault
Incineroar is the glue of formats
dull ibex
Wolfey skewed my take of incin
mighty stump
centralised metagames are a good thing
dull ibex
now i play with it I rather enjoy it
willow vault
Incineroar is the glue of formats
and I’m allergic to glue so what do
mighty stump
I absolutely do not want to play the lottery and gamba my matchups every time I enter a game
That essentially decides w/l in the builder
abstract grail
I mean I've seen long time players who find him annoying at the least. I don't think he's inheritley an issue personally but I'll admit I've banged my head on the table once or twice after banging my head on the table after the 8th incineroar of the day
dull ibex
maybe i misunderstand the term centralized
willow vault
One very dominant archetype think of 2015 I think with CHALK
mighty stump
I mean I've seen long time players who find him annoying at the least. I don't t...
Long time players don't necessarily mean good players.
abstract grail
I had a stroke Jesus
mighty stump
Incineroar is a knowledge check
timber falcon
what does centralized mean?
Centered around a specific group of mons, e.g. meta mons like Incin, RS shifu, Rilla, ect
mighty stump
maybe i misunderstand the term centralized
Concentrated.
dull ibex
so centralized doesnt have to mean centralized around one team?
willow vault
Oh I misunderstood too
abstract grail
I absolutely do not want to play the lottery and gamba my matchups every time I ...
Tbf, I think with open sheets it'd be abit more forgiving in a sense.
mighty stump
That's a bad thing
dull ibex
I do think most of this whole gen has been very healhy
mighty stump
Tbf, I think with open sheets it'd be abit more forgiving in a sense.
You do not get OTS in the regular ladder, and in OTS situations you're only ever going to see the best variations of teams/most hard worked on teams.
willow vault
If it's OVERcentralised
2015 is the prime example right? Like 6 or 7 of the top 8 at worlds shared 5 mons
mighty stump
Not everyone competes.
Not everyone gets the chance to either.,
and even then
OTS doesn't solve matchups lol
dull ibex
isnt ou overcentralized atm?
minor panther
That's a bad thing
how is too diverse bad?
abstract grail
Yeah no open sheet on ranked system Is odd
timber falcon
how is too diverse bad?
Random MUs all over the place sucks
willow vault
isnt ou overcentralized atm?
Don’t know enough about OU too comment
dull ibex
how is too diverse bad?
too much to prepare it becomes a roulette
mighty stump
how is too diverse bad?
Do you want to play matchup roulette and lose upon team preview?
minor panther
fair enough
minor panther
i just got three replies i feel like i got murdered by three people
anyway back to lurking
mighty stump
It's been CTS up until now only because there is no battle box
abstract grail
It's a expectation I think like...greatly improves SVs flow imo
willow vault
i just got three replies i feel like i got murdered by three people
Nah it was just a question your fine
timber falcon
Was it cts in swsh?
timber falcon
Oh
mighty stump
Information management is a big part of games and tours
and so was scouting
Some people argued those with stronger networks had an inherent advantage since their friends can scout and feed info
willow vault
I mean Japanese tournaments are also still cts I think
abstract grail
I think OTS makes it more accessible for people wich is never a bad thing me think.
mighty stump
Asian tours also still go by CTS
OTS is fine
I prefer OTS
I don't mind CTS for bo1 ladder
timber falcon
OTS makes me feel better about a loss
mighty stump
It's the best of both worlds.
dull ibex
I prefer no team sheets personally
willow vault
And that’s fair
dull ibex
I prefer to scout
abstract grail
OTS makes me take all accountability for my actions
mighty stump
Either way, CTS and OTS have the same fundamentals, you just play slightly differently.
timber falcon
Cause if I lose on OTS I know it’s just a skill issue
mighty stump
I prefer to scout
Scout how you click Protect once in a blue moon
dull ibex
Scout how you click Protect once in a blue moon
Shut up doofus
There is a method to my madness tofu
abstract grail
Mom and dad are fighting again 😭
timber falcon
Oh they scout play styles?!
mighty stump
I've been a single parent all this time
minor panther
wait guys hear me out
what if we gave spidops
one extra speed
willow vault
Why?
dull ibex
Tofus right I'm bad at protect
I do genuinely prefer to feel out their team mid battle over reading a team sheet
abstract grail
I personally prefer using the info infront of me and devising a plan, but that's just a preference really.
timber falcon
I personally prefer using the info infront of me and devising a plan, but that's...
That’s what everyone does-
willow vault
Same
dull ibex
Could it be you just have trouble reading
Is this a genuine question or should I call you dumb again
timber falcon
There’s info given to you by staring at ur opponent’s team
mighty stump
It wasn't
abstract grail
That’s what everyone does-
I ment like having all the info specifically held items and moves prior thanks to OTS
gentle cragBOT
I ment like having all the info specifically held items and moves prior thanks t...
cyberbirb6850 has given 1 Gen Rep to otot8953
dull ibex
OK then you suck I hate get banned
abstract grail
Did I?
mighty stump
Pinging mods right now
timber falcon
I ment like having all the info specifically held items and moves prior thanks t...
Oh ok
mighty stump
@ mod
dull ibex
I'm illiterate you don't need to point it out 😭
abstract grail
Congratulations otot8953!!!
mighty stump
Don't worry
abstract grail
Why does that keep happening?
mighty stump
You and majority of everyone else I have interacted with in this channel
timber falcon
Congratulations otot8953!!!
Rotom messed up a lot
mighty stump
I miss shiro
dull ibex
Toxic tofu
willow vault
I feel like 2 very different conversation right now and I can’t keep up
timber falcon
You and majority of everyone else I have interacted with in this channel
Excluding me right?
mighty stump
Excluding me right?
If you had to ask you're part of the problem
minor panther
You and majority of everyone else I have interacted with in this channel
ive been called "a literate"
abstract grail
Tofu simply has Poison heal
willow vault
I know I’m part of the problem
timber falcon
If you had to ask you're part of the problem
at least I’m not the whole one
willow vault
So why would I ask
dull ibex
Here is a serious question
willow vault
Ok
dull ibex
Tofu how do you feel about the pedestal you're on lmao
mighty stump
I dislike it.
dull ibex
Gotcha
timber falcon
willow vault
Is there a cushion on the pedestal or just pedestal no comfort?
mighty stump
Either or
willow vault
Huh
timber falcon
Also is the pedestal big
abstract grail
I think it's more like a really tall pedestal but it's really shakey so not comfortable
mighty stump
Tofu how do you feel about the pedestal you're on lmao
To answer this more extensively, I don't want people to take my word as just law and fact, but majority of people cannot engage in good faith. I only ever speak what I believe is the most efficient way for people to just improve and the basics that I apply to myself all the time when playing.
willow vault
I think it's more like a really tall pedestal but it's really shakey so not comf...
So does that mean I live in a ditch, I buried myself but it’s surprisingly comfortable
mighty stump
If I happen to be right in the eyes of a person then that's all there is too it
dull ibex
thats fair
mighty stump
I'm not some godly player or amazing teambuilder. I just worked hard and got good through effort.
And I know what I'm doing
Some can see that as condescending and to them, how unfortunate.
timber falcon
Interesting information
dull ibex
I heard that when you werent around today tbh
willow vault
I find it funny not condescending
abstract grail
Personally I fly where the medication takes me 🐦🐦🐦
dull ibex
Some can see that as condescending and to them, how unfortunate.
you have a dry delivery
willow vault
Personally I fly where the medication takes me 🐦🐦🐦
Where does it take you?
dull ibex
I think thats why, you dont baby it down and try to not hurt feelings
mighty stump
I heard that when you werent around today tbh
I probably deserve a little bit of condescension considering I didn't have a me to teach me. I'm purely self taught.
dull ibex
so feelings get hurt
timber falcon
I think thats why, you dont baby it down and try to not hurt feelings
Very true
abstract grail
Depends on the day, normally no where good.
mighty stump
You're probably an adult if you're on this app
dull ibex
I think its an insecurity thing
mighty stump
If not, at least you have the mental fortitude if you're gonna be on the internet
willow vault
Depends on the day, normally no where good.
So like slough?
mighty stump
I have like a million and 1 questions to answer the same thing over and over. Of course I'm not gonna be all "oh naur pookie is sad"
timber falcon
By the way, I’ve been focusing a lot on team building, but is there anyway I can improve piloting?
dull ibex
I have like a million and 1 questions to answer the same thing over and over. Of...
yeah its the right approahc
willow vault
Send some gameplay and we can critique it I guess
dull ibex
you are in a space to learn pokemon sometimes the truth hurts a bit
minor panther
By the way, I’ve been focusing a lot on team building, but is there anyway I can...
make archeops your co-pilot trust me
mighty stump
By the way, I’ve been focusing a lot on team building, but is there anyway I can...
Turn-by-turn awareness
willow vault
By the way, I’ve been focusing a lot on team building, but is there anyway I can...
Practice, more practice
abstract grail
So like slough?
Wha?
timber falcon
Practice, more practice
I’m doing a lot of this, but I don’t think I’ve improved
dull ibex
mighty stump
That
timber falcon
Or just do replay reviews
Haven’t tried this yet
cyan smelt
idk maybe it's helped me improve but i watch matches above 1500 elo when i can
timber falcon
Ok so watch matches helps
abstract grail
I’m doing a lot of this, but I don’t think I’ve improved
It's really a self confidence think me think when you feel like that. Usually you're way harder on yourself then others are.
mighty stump
Again
dull ibex
do critique that btw if you want
mighty stump
Ill recommend watching NAIC this weekend
timber falcon
It's really a self confidence think me think when you feel like that. Usually yo...
I consider myself pretty good though 
confidence is key
timber falcon
Ill recommend watching NAIC this weekend
Ok
cyan smelt
i'm getting better but teambuilding is still hard
willow vault
It's really a self confidence think me think when you feel like that. Usually yo...
Like I know I improved, because I get more frustrated when I mess up, I’m more aware of situations I just need to keep pushing to make better decisions more consistantly
mighty stump
It's really a self confidence think me think when you feel like that. Usually yo...
One of the things people who think I'm condescending definitely don't see is just how hard I am towards myself. What everyone else gets is a fraction
abstract grail
I can't relate 🔥 I hate myself no matter what the lala land tablets tell me
dull ibex
we are our biggest critics
abstract grail
One of the things people who think I'm condescending definitely don't see is jus...
I mean I think it's really just cause the way you type is weirdly not very approachable Idk how to word it...monotone but like...in text?
dull ibex
he has a dry delivery
mighty stump
I've been told I'm almost botlike.
dull ibex
I think people dont like me for a similiar reasons
willow vault
Honestly, being in a voice call with a bunch of the people here made me realise they are just people, same as me and they aren’t as a scary
abstract grail
That one teacher you have in high-school or collage who's a good teacher, and teaches the subject well. But sounds like he'd rather be anywhere else and causes you to question what led him to a career in education.
mighty stump
Oh that fits the bill
mighty stump
I do. I run a blog and everything with the sole purpose to make VGC more accessible.
The only annoying part is that when people don't like the truths that have to come with
And then blame me for it
willow vault
And it’s a good blog, I read the sunlax blog very insightful
dull ibex
I still hope I can get to a place where I can realistically help folk
dull ibex
The only annoying part is that when people don't like the truths that have to co...
god dude
mighty stump
I also question myself when people either don't remember the information I talk about repeatedly or misconstrue my words
The latter being even more aggravating
abstract grail
I mean that's just humans for ya, make errors and stuff.
willow vault
I’m sorry Tofu, I don’t mess up your phrases on purpose
dull ibex
we havent had a bad apple in a while
mighty stump
I really don't have the energy to validate an ignorant's molehill mountain
dull ibex
afaik atleast which is good
abstract grail
The sonic 06 theme song is all I can hear when I read that send help /j
mighty stump
afaik atleast which is good
You missed out a lot.
abstract grail
Specifically the version from last promise
mighty stump
There has been 3
mighty stump
It's more mild annoyance than anything and just demotivating rather than me getting actually upset, since that's rare
Or just feeling like it's a waste of time
willow vault
we havent had a bad apple in a while
Erm, kinda
abstract grail
I'm the apples that are gold I like those ones
dull ibex
you do sound annoyed or disinterested in calls though tbh tofu lmao
willow vault
We all just blocked them and ignore them now
abstract grail
Or the honey apples
mighty stump
you do sound annoyed or disinterested in calls though tbh tofu lmao
That is my general energy
dull ibex
That is my general energy
FAIR
abstract grail
I like apples.
mighty stump
I save my attempts to be upbeat/nice for my actual job
willow vault
That makes sense
dull ibex
I can't lie sometimes im in just generally disinterested lmao
dull ibex
I can't hide it when I dont care
mighty stump
Aside from spikes here or there.
dull ibex
it sucks because it hurts feelings
if im not interested and someone says hey red ill sound annoyed because im not masking
willow vault
hey red
dull ibex
I hope you lose all your games the next week
abstract grail
My brains been stuck in abit of a fuzzy limbo for the past two years so I don't even really know how I act lol, or how others really perceive it. I normally just assume people find me abkt annoying and or talk to much, and or apologize to much.
willow vault
I hope you lose all your games the next week
I already do
dull ibex
I already do
deserved /j
willow vault
I wanted to test your reaction
dull ibex
my comment is a voice thing
willow vault
I can’t test that
dull ibex
I know
dull ibex
you as well
willow vault
abstract grail
Personally I wish you the worst of luck
dull ibex
tysm!
willow vault
That’s so kind
abstract grail
Absolutely horid, like just abysmal. Among the worst you've ever had. You'll question things, many things.
willow vault
Cool
dull ibex
nothing gets worse then sleep powder into obamasnow sorry
abstract grail
Totally serious and no funny business at all
willow vault
nothing gets worse then sleep powder into obamasnow sorry
Oh it’s so pain
dull ibex
huh?
abstract grail
Remember keep yourself safe, and drink lots of water!
willow vault
Remember keep yourself safe, and drink lots of water!
What if I don’t?
dull ibex
anyone wanna vc and watch me play dumb games
mighty stump
anyone wanna vc and watch me play dumb games
Sure.
abstract grail
I would but it's currently 3 40 and I have to get up at 6 lol
Goonight
And or goo morning
dull ibex
https://pokepast.es/75dac01766802b89 guess the naming convention
gen9vgc2023series1 1262 51.8% 1514 ± 42 76 69
my peak
solid frigate
gen9vgc2023series1 1262 51.8% 1514 ± 42 76 69
dull ibex
i see
solid frigate
Just some weirdo
i'm questioning their sanity honestly-
mighty stump
The internet makes people believe they can be as weird as they want thinking it's detached from them as a person.
solid frigate
The internet makes people believe they can be as weird as they want thinking it'...
honestly one part of the internet is influential and beneficial,but one part is just degenerating-
cyan smelt
all the weirdos come out of the woodwork during pride month
solid frigate
all the weirdos come out of the woodwork during pride month
moment
Also Fast Taunt Greninja with Caly Ice feels like Low Ladder but in Low Ladder its consistent-
but mid ladder feels not that great
sharp cobalt
all the weirdos come out of the woodwork during pride month
I 
into it
cyan smelt
isn't greninja kinda mid
solid frigate
isn't greninja kinda mid
he actually beat some muk smeragle teams and survived longer than i expected
sharp cobalt
Nice 
solid frigate
Nice <:dratini_sip:795442171419033610>
https://pokepast.es/5e73936a2e2c57fd
But this team in Mid ladder its not cooking-
solid frigate
just saw a hyper beam terapagos on ladder
honestly fair enough
cyan smelt
that's crazy
solid frigate
its a fucking nuke
252 SpA Choice Specs Terapagos-Stellar Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 392-462 (97 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Terapagos-Stellar Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 430-506 (106.4 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Modest Nature
cyan smelt
i kinda want to use hisuian goodra again
solid frigate
i kinda want to use hisuian goodra again
IDBP H-goodra?
cyan smelt
yeah with heavy slam maybe
solid frigate
yeah its cool
cyan smelt
i like hoodra
solid frigate
i like hoodra
yeah its cool
but like for me i am not good at IDBP Mons outside of MAYBE Kommo-o
I piloted Zamazenta terribly
cyan smelt
i'm doing decent with zama
solid frigate
i think i piloted Lunala the Best,Followed by Terapagos and Calyrex Shadow Rider
cyan smelt
i want to play bo3 ladder but feeling anxious all of a sudden
solid frigate
maybe play when you don't feel anxious?
cyan smelt
i feel better now
solid frigate
good
cyan smelt
i need to see if ting lu works with av and rilla works with clam
solid frigate
try it
cyan smelt
low ladder games be wild lol, a salamence just used dragon dance then used draco meteor a couple of times
and a chi-yu with flare blitz lmao
solid frigate
tf
cyan smelt
this was 1000 elo
cyan smelt
low elo is wild
cyan smelt
the low level muk smeargle players don't know what they're doing but the higher level players are really hard to play against
solid frigate
mid elo is the more comfortable elo for players who wants to play Comp
and idk why people think rattata strat works
dude doubles its even worse-
cyan smelt
endeavour quick attack?
solid frigate
yeah
mighty stump
I ruined some Hoodra player's life with Snorlax
solid frigate
and it won't work on doubles
solid frigate
I ruined some Hoodra player's life with Snorlax
mighty stump
cyan smelt
actually i think i want to try miracle seed instead of clam
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2135403312-o1c398rhtpojeosms7...
honestly at least its not toxic stall for that eternatus team-
but i did not expect those words from a high Elo
cyan smelt
lol tera ghost curse snorlax is hilarious
mighty stump
The favourite child
cyan smelt
they never see it coming
solid frigate
kek
mighty stump
Realistically on OTS they also can't see it coming
Sometimes you don't put 2-2 together
cyan smelt
the tera for it makes sense because it walls body press
mighty stump
You also punish the "more optimal" Heavy Slam set
Its great
I'm seeing more LIfe Orb Urshifu-RS
solid frigate
huh
willow vault
Interesting
solid frigate
might as well go back to school after the lunch session break
limber marsh
So what makes whimsicot a common pick over tornadus these days?
cyan smelt
i've lost 3 in a row bo3
willow vault
So what makes whimsicot a common pick over tornadus these days?
It’s faster prankster and gets encore
willow vault
i've lost 3 in a row bo3
Don’t think to deep about it and start with a clean slate for the next one
limber marsh
@willow vault ahh I see
willow vault
Getting tilted won’t help
next stump
it’s also a better raging bolt answer than tornadus and since it’s normally paired with miraidon, something has to deal with bolt
mighty stump
Those Moonblasts add up
mighty stump
Maybe take a break and review the replays instead
cyan smelt
everyone seems to be running caly-s now
willow vault
Because it won la regionals and it’s very good
cyan smelt
seems like just everything atm
mighty stump
Think you addressed the big matchups yet?
cyan smelt
i don't think av is working on ting lu
mighty stump
Have you tried Choice Band
cyan smelt
cb rilla?
cyan smelt
i'm running snarl what should i replace it with
mighty stump
Its one of my new favourite sets
EQ
Half-jokes aside
What was your team again?
You’ll have to go through a checklist of dealing with:
- Miraidon
- Zama
- CIR
- Pagos HO
- Clef Caly
- Kyogre in general
cyan smelt
i'm mainly seeing miraidon and caly
mighty stump
Yeah but like those are the relevant MUs
Miraidon probably is dealt with by Ting-Lu and so should CSR if you can capitalise the 1-2 turns before CSR starts steamrolling
Heavy Slam would probably be a requirement on Ting
cyan smelt
i've got heavy slam on it
cyan smelt
i keep losing to caly-s
autumn vault
<:SALTY:562338955723276331>
cyan smelt
i can't beat damn caly-s
autumn vault
salt moment
Salting the salty
solid frigate
i can't beat damn caly-s
Ho-Oh Ting Lu Team?
autumn vault
i can't beat damn caly-s
Skill issue
Real players are prepared for it ith 2 dark types and Urshifu-R/S
solid frigate
graceful flare
I need a fast taunt that is also a physical attacker
cyan smelt
i beat caly s, that was a nightmare
solid frigate
i beat caly s, that was a nightmare
at least its possible for you
graceful flare
I need a fast taunt that is also a physical attacker
Pls help
autumn vault
i beat caly s, that was a nightmare
It's a nightmare for you? I eat it for breakfast
https://pokepast.es/a04c0a507d5bcb2f Also here is a team i will use in Double Restricted format
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/a04c0a507d5bcb2f Also here is a team i will use in Double Re...
Imma build one rn
autumn vault
Telling me to drop Zekrom is like giving 1UK3 advice, it won't listen at all
Planning to make another double restricted Zekrom team with Groudon and CSR
And yes for sun i have an excuse to run Chien Pao
solid frigate
Telling me to drop Zekrom is like giving 1UK3 advice, it won't listen at all
I might plan to make Terapagos Lunala
autumn vault
For non-Zekrom teams i plan to run Koraidon + Groudon and Kyogre + Zacian
solid frigate
cool
graceful flare
I need help with a fast taunt user that's also a physical attacker
autumn vault
I run koraidon and groudon not only for the DonDon but also for keeping the sun up and helping a bit with each other
Kyogre zac is self explanatory
solid frigate
I run koraidon and groudon not only for the DonDon but also for keeping the sun ...
also like the more i played Terapagos,I don't rely on Tera anymore
autumn vault
You don't need to tera to win it just makes winning games much easier
solid frigate
so i can Tera Something Else like Chi Yu and Cresselia
solid frigate
You don't need to tera to win it just makes winning games much easier
exactly
autumn vault
Tera Shell is already something to consider giving up
And also single target STAB starstorm
solid frigate
i might make Tailroom Team with Terapagos Lunala
autumn vault
Interesting
For TR teams i might run CIR + Dialga-O and avoid Miraidon at all costs
And also Lunala/NDW + Zamazenta
Like i said, avoid Miraidon at all costs
cyan smelt
this team ain't working all of a sudden
autumn vault
Thats not good
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/fcb5943e33ef9474
Only issue i notice is the 3x weakness to flying with little counterplay
The little counterplay is meteor beam
But otherwise great team
solid frigate
The little counterplay is meteor beam
i might think of Bringing Archaludon Tornadus
Replace whim with Torn and Chi Yu with Archaludon
autumn vault
You can run thunderbolt on Terapagos btw
lofty tartan
I need help with a fast taunt user that's also a physical attacker
Urshifu learns Taunt.
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/fcb5943e33ef9474
Also surprised you run Heat Wave and Flamethrower on Chi-Yu, an odd choice but it can work
solid frigate
You can run thunderbolt on Terapagos btw
i'm too scared of Miraidon lol
solid frigate
Also surprised you run Heat Wave and Flamethrower on Chi-Yu, an odd choice but i...
Overheat accuracy-
autumn vault
Heat Wave has the same accuracy
solid frigate
i kinda wanna replace Chi Yu with Arcaludon since Archaludon can decently handle Caly Ice
lofty tartan
People out here acting like 90 is 75
Like someone just ran a Sing Clefairy at LA. Accuracy is 55. Risk vs reward.
solid frigate
Heat Wave has the same accuracy
https://pokepast.es/889b09a69475e5d6
Here ya go
Archaludon is just my favourite Comp Pokemon
without Fire Type Hurts a Bit but i think its ok
@autumn vault wanna try our teams out in draft?
graceful flare
Yes but I'm using focus sash on calyrex
I just got railed by a terapagos team
And only now I regret not using any fighting types
graceful flare
If only there was a fighting type that learns taunt and doesn't need a focus sash and is fast
solid frigate
Urshifu can run Mystic Water as well
limber marsh
What's the recommended tera for incin?
polar canyon
Grass, water, ghost
solid frigate
What's the recommended tera for incin?
Grass,Ghost,Water,Dragon
If its not Goggles then mostly Grass
polar canyon
Grass especially if you don't have safety goggles on it
solid frigate
with Goggles is mostly Ghost or Water
polar canyon
I need to find a scarlet player who can trade me a koraidon
That's the worst part of playing Violet
limber marsh
Gotcha, what item does the grass Terra usually go with?
solid frigate
That's the worst part of playing Violet
at least Violet we have a good thing for it that is Miraidon
limber marsh
Also sorry, already traded my spare koraidon
solid frigate
Gotcha, what item does the grass Terra usually go with?
Assault Vest or Sitrus
polar canyon
I like assault vest personally
charred saddle
cough cough
gentle cragBOT
abused1 (ID 1060975738678947880)
solid frigate
I like assault vest personally
i tried AV Incin and it TANKS
Though i usually swap it
limber marsh
Thank you!
charred saddle
basically i do new game playthrough under ur prefered OT 
polar canyon
Yeah I don't think I wanna give a shiny legend for a koraidon but thanks for the offer
I don't mind the ot
charred saddle
i can provide you streams or recording when encountering the mon
molten oasis
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani-shiny/calyrex-shadow.gif
Evil
Stupid Mon, kill it
molten oasis
solid frigate
Archaludon For me
zealous badger
THE vgc goat
W
zealous badger
<:hootiejumpscare:1223829667513897031>
solid frigate
Archaludon For me
but thats more like my Favourite
molten oasis
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani-shiny/zacian-crowned.gif
Friend, great Mon
molten oasis
Fine
polar canyon
My vgc goat?
solid frigate
My VGC GOAT
polar canyon
King neck
zealous badger
polar canyon
What
solid frigate
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/archaludon.png
le true VGC GOAT for me
autumn vault
<@1104069302946103348> wanna try our teams out in draft?
Been gone for a bit, i think now is a good time
Username Lyco Zekrom
polar canyon
Send spectate link
solid frigate
holy fu Archaludon is just so damn good-
autumn vault
The tera turn 1 was very aggresive
autumn vault
Want to go again? This time its 4v4
solid frigate
sure
cyan smelt
i think it was just a bad night, so many caly-s
autumn vault
solid frigate
tru
autumn vault
You have to admit it did a lot against you
solid frigate
mhm
i think my team is fine
I use Lunala Solely Because of Zamazenta and Koraidon-
autumn vault
I also don't like how Zekrom did nearly nothing in that 2nd battle
It did do big damage on amoonguss but thats about it
cyan smelt
Not even ting lu seems to be able to deal with caly s clef
solid frigate
my Tera is too offensive for Archaludon
solid frigate
Not even ting lu seems to be able to deal with caly s clef
how-
Wait do they Tera Immediately?
autumn vault
Ngl i thought of protecting that Kyogre infront of your restricteds
cyan smelt
Most of the time
autumn vault
Game 2 turn 5
Should have went with my gut
Also that calm mind turn 6 game 2 probably cost you the game
You might have lost anyways but you had a chance
To probably OHKO my Urshifu
solid frigate
eh true
autumn vault
My urshifu was 100% offense
solid frigate
To probably OHKO my Urshifu
did you not saw Terapagos does like 50% to Urshifu or something-
autumn vault
did you not saw Terapagos does like 50% to Urshifu or something-
I said probably
autumn vault
252+ SpA Terapagos-Terastal Tera Starstorm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Single Strike: 145-172 (82.3 - 97.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
mighty stump
Those were some interesting plays.
solid frigate
It wasn't a great MU
it's mostly Urshifu but yeah
autumn vault
Yeah IK tofu
solid frigate
urshifu Dark tears my team
mighty stump
No
autumn vault
urshifu Dark tears my team
Especially Banded ones
solid frigate
Amoonguss tears your team
you can say the same to Lyco in the first Match lol
not B03 one
autumn vault
My team doesn't handle Amoonguss that well but Torrent's isn't better against amoonguss
mighty stump
You still have the same bad target prioritisation issue.
autumn vault
not B03 one
You can say the same about Archaludon
solid frigate
the only Upside is that if Archaludon left unchecked,welp
limber marsh
Oof, without the dlc I can't get the tm for knock off OR grassy glide
mighty stump
Shouldn't you guys focus on improving in a single restricted format first? Before things get more difficult?
autumn vault
I still grind with both Zek and Kyo
And also Koraidon
That was just some practice
solid frigate
3/4 of my main Restricted are Ghost Psychic lol
mighty stump
I'm just concerned about inferring the wrong information from matches if the basics aren't solid.
Particularly in an obviously non-existent format
sharp cobalt
Huh. Tiktok showed me someone winning with Cinccino tr. Neat
autumn vault
not B03 one
autumn vault
Particularly in an obviously non-existent format
I am just glad the team i crafted with isn't shit
But you do make very good points
polar canyon
Kyogre does work pretty well
Even tho it got ohkod
I think the thing was identifying the threat
graceful flare
Oof, without the dlc I can't get the tm for knock off OR grassy glide
Check dm
craggy dagger
I am just glad the team i crafted with isn't shit
just because an idea is stupid doesn’t mean it’s shit
limber marsh
So I'm working on a team to Playtest, if necessary I can get the exact specs, but so far I've got koraidon, flutter mane, incineroar, amoongus, and solar blade ceruledge. For the last slot I'm debating going with a speed setter (tho I don't have the best ones, I would be using murkrow or thundrus). Or another support mon, like grimsnarl or umbreon. I also like gyaridos a lot
autumn vault
just because an idea is stupid doesn’t mean it’s shit
True but you have to admit, its not a good idea to make a restricted switch the offensive stat they use
sharp cobalt
If its stupid but it works, then its not stupid 
autumn vault
SpA Zekrom has been done before
So ik for a fact its not shit
But with Amulet physical is definetelt better by a land slide
sharp cobalt
Atk Reshiram 
craggy dagger
better to not waste an item slot or be screwed by intim rather than going to another stat if the stat difference is manageable
craggy dagger
Atk Reshiram <a:parasfire:940200099307483146>
been there done that-
i hated it
autumn vault
better to not waste an item slot or be screwed by intim rather than going to ano...
You can boost your attack with ddance
autumn vault
Excuse me? Not a waste at all
autumn vault
It is true you do use a moveslot and the item is very predictable (obv), its just the best thing rn
SpA Zekrom has been done before
And its OK
I just prefer one set over the other
limber marsh
How many physical attackers is too many?
craggy dagger
when you realize intimidate is gonna mess you up
limber marsh
Well, atm I've got clear amulet koraidon, and ceruledge. I'm debating if it would be stupid to also add extreme speed dragonite
My only special attacker atm is flutter mane
craggy dagger
ceruledge?
timber falcon
What about like, ways to deal with other restricted
limber marsh
@craggy dagger ye, I'm playing around with solar blade tera grass ceruledge, since koraidon sets up sun
@timber falcon ngl this is my first time playing in a restricted format, so I'm not well versed in how to do so
graceful flare
Why choice scarf kyogre but not groudon
limber marsh
@graceful flare I have basically no meta knowledge, but when I go against groudons they usually seem to run a lot of coverage moves
mighty stump
I don't think Ceruledge is meant to go on Koraidon teams.
It further punishes your rain MUs
You kinda already have a fairly set moveset with Ceru as well. Not really space to slot in Solar Blade
limber marsh
@mighty stump fair, I haven't gone up against any rain teams in this regulation yet so I'm not too familiar with the match up
As for the moveset, I was thinking, bitter blade, shadow Sneak, solar blade, and something like protect, sword dance, or willow wisp
mighty stump
One option if you plan on going for Dragonite + Koraidon, you basically are encouraged to go Chien-Pao
limber marsh
But I already have incin with willow
mighty stump
Bulk-Up/Bitter Blade/Shadow Sneak/Protect is the standard moveset
solid frigate
But I already have incin with willow
Incin with Will-O-Wisp is better for being honest,and its a fact
limber marsh
@solid frigate ye I definitely want to leave him with it
@mighty stump guess it is tricky to fit another move in. I do definitely like chien pow + dragonite, that's what I was running last year a lot
solid frigate
just try Rentals
mighty stump
Cause then you won't really have the necessary tools to attempt to tweak/adjust your team
In the pins, you can find a repository with a bunch of teams
There is very likely a Ceruledge team in there.
craggy dagger
how about leaf blade gallade
solid frigate
how about leaf blade gallade
i mean its good with Dawn Wings
autumn vault
Gallade is more of a niche option
limber marsh
@mighty stump that's fair, but honestly trying to build teams that work (even if I don't have a lot of the better resources) is half the fun for me
If I was just playing rental teams I'd lose interest real fast
solid frigate
Gallade is more of a niche option
its more like in between
mighty stump
By resources/tools I just mean more of the perspective.
autumn vault
its more like in between
True
craggy dagger
Gallade is more of a niche option
better than ceru though
autumn vault
But like, its not common
autumn vault
better than ceru though
Generally, yes
mighty stump
I wouldn't start with picking Pokemon you like
solid frigate
But like, its not common
Dawn Wings Team:
mighty stump
Other than your Restricted, which decides the gameplan
craggy dagger
I wouldn't start with picking Pokemon you like
autumn vault
Dawn Wings Team:
Being uncommon doesn't mean it won't be used
solid frigate
I wouldn't start with picking Pokemon you like
unless you are well know what you are doing on that Favourite
mighty stump
You need to understand the roles the Pokemon will play, their strengths, and how to plug their executionary holes
No, even then
Every choice is deliberate
solid frigate
i mean i am trying Caly Ice Greninja so yeah idfk what am i doing besides Greninja being Fast Taunt
limber marsh
Ye, I'm building off my experience from the last regulation I played in, but with the restricteds around I'm much less familiar with how to fight them
craggy dagger
Every choice is deliberate
not me who just chooses random stuff that looks cool and messes around with EV sliders
limber marsh
Like I currently don't have a real way to beat terapagos, or caly teams
solid frigate
Like I currently don't have a real way to beat terapagos, or caly teams
Wait,Even Koraidon??
Like Koraidon is Terapa's Worst MU-
besides Zama of course but yeah-
limber marsh
Oh?
autumn vault
Also i can't forget but advice is very important for anyone trying out VGC
limber marsh
How should I go about trying to fight terapagos? I feel like it just out tanks me completely until I die to a couple starstorms
craggy dagger
mighty stump
The other article in there also references common teams you'll expect to see
limber marsh
@mighty stump ooo thank you
gentle cragBOT
<@250386799363489808> ooo thank you
backinthefrey has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
mighty stump
It's a bit old, but yea
solid frigate
Archaludon and Bolt are the two Comp Mons i like
autumn vault
Archaludon and Bolt are the two Comp Mons i like
They are basically Mini legendaries
solid frigate
Well not Archaludon but Bolt yes
autumn vault
Well not Archaludon but Bolt yes
Archaludon gets great stats, 135 SpA iirc and a signature move thats busted in rain
solid frigate
eh- i used Archaludon the entire Reg F so yeah
autumn vault
Porygon 2 when you are in a situation and you can't kill it
solid frigate
moment
mighty stump
autumn vault
Fun fact: Raging Bolt isn't actually a legend despite being the ancestor to an actual legend, if the DLC and Base Game were together in the original release we would have had to deal with it in the introduction to Reg B, just feel a bit grateful when DLC happens and creates broken pokemon
solid frigate
but Bolt is a more capable Legend compare to Raikou tho
autumn vault
They could have been annoying AF to deal with in earlier regs
sharp cobalt
# <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
not me who just chooses random stuff that ...
Volbeat and Illumise?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
but Bolt is a more capable Legend compare to Raikou tho
Ironically, yes
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
solid frigate
ok Bolt's Stats are just significantly better despite being slower
autumn vault
Literally gains more stats and loses 10 in attack
mighty stump
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2024-north-america-international-champio...
Read this
chrome knot
@mighty stump wyt is winning naic
mighty stump
I genuinely recommend it
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> wyt is winning naic
Either HOPagos or CSR
solid frigate
Literally gains more stats and loses 10 in attack
and lose SpD but its not that big of a deal cuz AV
chrome knot
im predicting a secret team geared to stomp caly s clef wins
autumn vault
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2024-north-america-international-champio...
Why did i think this is one of your blog posts before clicking?
chrome knot
real
solid frigate
i might play Minecraft just to chill a bit in Thursday
mighty stump
HOPagos is the only one that has a remotely weighted positive MU into Caly-Clef
mighty stump
The one I used
timber falcon
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2024-north-america-international-champio...
Text to speech?
chrome knot
ive only seen you use snorlax
solid frigate
HOPagos is the only one that has a remotely weighted positive MU into Caly-Clef
Pagos moment is truly exquiste
mighty stump
Ok well I actually tried with this one its just Suica's HOPagos lol
EVs are mine
Not his
chrome knot
i see i see
mighty stump
So pretty easy 1700s/1800s
Then the other version was like
Focused more on PaoShifu
Again, same result, 1800s
craggy dagger
emma!!
craggy dagger
i see i see
sharp cobalt
Novie didyou try Illumise/Volbeat?
solid frigate
it has potential
solid frigate
but like heavily outclassed by the prime 3 Prankster Users:Tornadus,Whimsicott and Grimmsnarl
craggy dagger
Novie didyou try Illumise/Volbeat?
reg G?
haven’t yet but i have some ideas
craggy dagger
but like heavily outclassed by the prime 3 Prankster Users:Tornadus,Whimsicott a...
tail glow baton pass (which is banned now bc restricted + baton pass is broken) was fun
sharp cobalt
solid frigate
tail glow baton pass (which is banned now bc restricted + baton pass is broken) ...
it is strong but yeah
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/04bd1613fe1a980f
What is snorlaxes role on the team? Just curious
craggy dagger
timber falcon
The defence is that good?
mighty stump
Did you read my Sunlax blog
sharp cobalt
Ofc not
timber falcon
Oh wait no I still gotta do that
I read some of that text to speech thing u sent, they said groudon might have potential
solid frigate
Curse Moment
sharp cobalt
solid frigate
Sun Setter for Past Paradox and Mons the Benefit from Sun(No Shit Sherlock) but yeah on its own its Pblades-
mighty stump
What does Groudon normally do in restricted formats?
Ground-Type offensively is just a premium
Especially one that isn't EQ
solid frigate
i saw Moxie's Post saying gonna try a Dawn Wings Team with Seems to have Banded Gambit and Normal Gem Golem with Psyspam mode-
timber falcon
i saw Moxie's Post saying gonna try a Dawn Wings Team with Seems to have Banded ...
Huh
solid frigate
yeah it does not have Protect so i assume is either AV or Banded
and what it seems the 5th member is Tera Grass Belly Drum Azumarill
so its P-Herb Meteor Beam Psyspam DWN,Indeedee,Explosion Golem,Standard Torkal,Belly Drum Azumarill and looks like either AV pr Banded Gambit
sharp cobalt
i saw Moxie's Post saying gonna try a Dawn Wings Team with Seems to have Banded ...
Normal gemlem
solid frigate
Normal gemlem
yep
autumn vault
i saw Moxie's Post saying gonna try a Dawn Wings Team with Seems to have Banded ...
Banded Gambit? Interesting, especially when you realize that Banded Urshifu-S exists
solid frigate
Banded Gambit? Interesting, especially when you realize that Banded Urshifu-S ex...
idk if its AV or banded
autumn vault
idk if its AV or banded
Both aren't bad options
They are good ones
But i don't see band gambit on munchstats
So probably AV
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/aa168e1b9de1e6a5 any thoughts so far?
autumn vault
https://x.com/dawoblefet/status/1798164639873679599?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcE...
Thats interesting
Now i am very confused
But doesn't tera come first and then helping hand?
karmic temple
Happy pride month and naic week
autumn vault
Ik, 50 BP × 1.5 = 75
mighty stump
Helping Hand is a base power boost
timber falcon
oh really?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
mighty stump
No reason to distrust Leonard Craft
autumn vault
Ik Leonard is a very good player
timber falcon
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2137461184 just a game iliked