#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Geshu Lin

bold geode
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No fuckin clue
Tofu, what tera does Hands run now

patent marsh
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I'm pulling yinlin next and then see if they fixed game with 1.1

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or not I just ditch this game like genshin arkeknine

mighty stump
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Lots of stuff for 1.1

bold geode
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Hey comp helper, what tera does Hands run nowadays

patent marsh
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if you haven't seen

timber falcon
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munchlax says water, grass, fire. in that order

bold geode
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Tofu just retires again like "what comp helper"

patent marsh
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cause they really wanna push out a lot of changes faster 😭

timber falcon
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tofu said u gotta partake in information gathering

patent marsh
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like the echo exp farming problem and energy cost being unnecessarily high

bold geode
mighty stump
patent marsh
mighty stump
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Bruh

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Im inefficient in my farm

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Im just doing quests

patent marsh
craggy dagger
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you guys farm?

mighty stump
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WHAT

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Im fully F2P LOL

bold geode
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Yeah looks like Water and Grass mostly with some Fire tera

craggy dagger
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kumi-
no-

patent marsh
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?

craggy dagger
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FukingDies

spend-
gacha
bad-

patent marsh
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I c6 r5 everything in genshin uptil raiden when I still played

patent marsh
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not gambling if you have the money to guarantee it 💀

mighty stump
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Guaranteed Gamba

craggy dagger
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fair enough

patent marsh
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I mean I literally skip all my gacha pulls

bold geode
timber falcon
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is it true that most gamblers quit just before they hit big?

craggy dagger
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you should try arknights-
no guaranteed of the limited you want KEKWCRY

patent marsh
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I already struck out every chinese gacha company with Kuro games flopping the 2nd time

timber falcon
craggy dagger
patent marsh
bold geode
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Lmao

patent marsh
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they found out I was keeping track of the card shuffle PikaLmao

bold geode
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Lol

timber falcon
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lmao

bold geode
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There's people who do that shit right
Just go there and make money off of that shit

patent marsh
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the problem is casino don't like that even though it's not illegal poliwhirlkek

bold geode
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I heard that people really used to do it cuz like
Hell if you know you can make money, why not lol

timber falcon
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yk what, i really hope that miraidon team doesnt win

charred saddle
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ad yg 4 cost double crit jg tp lupa ss

patent marsh
bold geode
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Like it's kinda sad nowadays to be like "I'm gambling to make money, no fun, just making money" but like before that was kinda valid lol

molten oasis
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First shiny larvesta

patent marsh
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I gambled for fun 💀

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though mostly because I knew how to win

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but yea

molten oasis
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Is calm nature, and has Volcarona the Early Riser

bold geode
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Cuz before they didn't do any of the shit that they do now to prevent stuff like counting the cards and stuff

molten oasis
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Me happy

timber falcon
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interesting the clefairy doesnt have after you, but sing

bold geode
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Like they added more decks to cards iirc?

timber falcon
bold geode
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Idk I just liked the one time I went to the casino cuz like
All the pretty colors appeased my smooth ape brain

mighty stump
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They yap too much in this game sometimes

timber falcon
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do they show the OTS on the yellow papers?

bold geode
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Yeah

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Or I think idk

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Would make sense lol

timber falcon
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after 5 min of yapping it begins!

timber falcon
bold geode
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Also I now appreciate Europeans for pronouncing Bologna the way it looks like it would be

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Instead of Baloney

patent marsh
timber falcon
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game 1 decided?

willow vault
willow vault
patent marsh
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boosted calyrex that's faster than both miraidon and iron hands that's low

mighty stump
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CSR is favourable into Miraidon so not surprised

patent marsh
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yea

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with rilla in the back too pretty difficult to come back from

timber falcon
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maybe tw was needed there

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maybe not

patent marsh
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nah the light screen helps

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the problem was the crit kinda domino the game

timber falcon
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oh yeah the OHKO

patent marsh
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if whimsicott was still around it would've been not as clean sweep but still a pretty difficult fight

timber falcon
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that nasty plot looked risky

patent marsh
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wtf

timber falcon
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i just realised

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WTF

patent marsh
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oof it missed double

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this guy is so unlucky

molten oasis
timber falcon
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anyways, he only brought 1 mon that can protect

patent marsh
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a crit game 1 that was really good and now a double missed

bold geode
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Bruh

timber falcon
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unluck is real

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man unfortunate

patent marsh
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does this whimsi not know tailwind?

timber falcon
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not sure

bold geode
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Idk
But it would've been a major uphill battle

patent marsh
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it did

patent marsh
timber falcon
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but the double into miraidon

patent marsh
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could always get a lucky crit arkeknine

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but nice

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Calyrex shadow win

timber falcon
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I preferred that tbh

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Not a fan of miraidon planning

molten oasis
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did csr win again

forest arrow
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30% usage id be suprised if it didn’t.

patent marsh
foggy lodge
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Someone wants to play? I have to practice with it

forest arrow
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Only two of them top cut?

foggy lodge
molten oasis
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Who wants to play LOTS of CSR mu’s with me at somepoint

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I’m also genuinely hoping there’s lots of terapagos at NAIC

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we’ll see

timber falcon
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Also not one caly-I is there

foggy lodge
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It dropped a lot

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Also Caly-Ice dropped

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The thing other top players said is that

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The composition of Caly-Ice teams doesn't beat Caly-Shadow

mighty stump
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I mean CSR was really good into the top performing restricteds barring Terapagos and even then Pagos doesnt fully stop a setup CSR

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The formula with the specific clef setup is just so key

molten oasis
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mm

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guess there’s gonna be lots of that formula

bold geode
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Drago you wanna watch me suffer huh

molten oasis
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Yes, yes I do

foggy lodge
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And Caly-Shadow bulky is the new set?

mighty stump
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@bold geode Covert Cloak CSR prophecy

molten oasis
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You want to make a poll on what to use I’m gonna pick the worst one

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Did cloak CSR win?

mighty stump
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No

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Im just saying

bold geode
molten oasis
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Just a more common set?

mighty stump
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The 6 I ran was basically the formula

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Sitrus/Nplot

molten oasis
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Mk

mighty stump
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I prefer CM since you dont lose to NPlot and don't get outpaced by something like HOPagos

molten oasis
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Yea, guess I’ll need to practice that mu a lot

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Although idk anyone just playing that team

mighty stump
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Lol

molten oasis
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Everyone I know isn’t taking CSR, I think

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Volc might be decent for the mu

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We’ll see

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Only time will tell

timber falcon
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How many people normally enter during events like naic?

bold geode
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Aight part 2 of poll coming since I got some other answers lol

rustic mountain
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damn csr winning again

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Idk how many are in masters

solid frigate
timber falcon
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I expected more

molten oasis
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You should play groudon

bold geode
solid frigate
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Terapagos and Caly S won 2 Events

Caly Ice,Miraidon,Zamazenta and Koraidon won 1 each

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(Only Masters Division btw)

bold geode
timber falcon
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3

solid frigate
bold geode
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Wtf

molten oasis
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You guys want him to suffer that much damn

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I showed remorse with groudon

timber falcon
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Hey if I can’t do it, maybe he can

bold geode
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I put the polls in another server too
Other server save me now

molten oasis
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They’re voting Palkia

timber falcon
solid frigate
solid frigate
mighty stump
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I probbaly have the highest palkia result atm

timber falcon
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Ah ok

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You think?

bold geode
mighty stump
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1600s 72% GXE

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Just over 50 games

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Last I remember

timber falcon
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Give me csr ima barely making it to 1600, give Tofu a snorlax…

molten oasis
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Can’t wait for NAIC to be anti CSR, to the best of their ability

mighty stump
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Yeah my highest results is like

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Terapagos

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Snorlax

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Lol

timber falcon
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U see

molten oasis
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Could see wide guard Mon+dengo maybe

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Or gambit

timber falcon
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Does everyone just hate csr atp lol

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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I don’t like it and I never have

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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It spirals out of control quickly

rustic mountain
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impressive to get that w/ palkia

solid frigate
# rustic mountain i think?

Terapagos won 1 Special Event in the Americas and Japan Nationals
Calyrex won 1 regional and 1 special event

rustic mountain
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that mon sucks

timber falcon
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Tofu show paste for team?

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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lmao

molten oasis
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I showed remorse with groudon

mighty stump
molten oasis
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But everyone else wants him to suffer

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Oh yea, after NAIC, Hydrapple time

rustic mountain
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wat team?

molten oasis
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For funsies

mighty stump
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^ Palkia

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Not the top 20

timber falcon
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Tr huh

rustic mountain
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oh ok was gna say wait wat

molten oasis
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It’s slow enough to go tr mode

timber falcon
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With speed investments, u made a tr palkia team?

rustic mountain
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prolly good into tw stuff

timber falcon
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Don’t origin have like 120 speed without any evs though

rustic mountain
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also only thing really speed invested is zap

timber falcon
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I should probably look at the team properly lol

rustic mountain
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everything else has enough speed to outspeed certain things in tw id imagine

timber falcon
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I didnt realise it was tr and tw

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Makes more sense

mighty stump
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I decided to actually try for once and stop memeing

rustic mountain
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oh still tho

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top 20 is dope

mighty stump
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I wanted to get main up there again

rustic mountain
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yea feel that

mighty stump
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So despite the crappy GXE since it was used to test random crap

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Still nice

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So ig Id say its even more difficult since I was gaining like what

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+8 elo

rustic mountain
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i got top 500 w/ cir on my main in like a day but my wr/elo is ass lmfao

timber falcon
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How many games does it take for testing?

mighty stump
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Depends lol

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I can figure stuff out in a few games

rustic mountain
timber falcon
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And how to deal with them properly

rustic mountain
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i mean

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thats dependent on ur understanding of the meta and the mus ur losing/struggling with

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u have to figure out if its a u issue or a team issue

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r u not playing the team right (had the tools didnt position/choose properly)

mighty stump
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If you cant tell what youre losing to that means you dudnt draft a team deliberately

rustic mountain
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or did the team just not have the options to give u a fighting chance

mighty stump
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You should be able to scan your team and figure out what tools you have and how to utilise them and if they can fix matchups

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or once you run into a perceived difficult matchup

timber falcon
mighty stump
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I mean

rustic mountain
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then its not relevant enough to care for really

bold geode
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Dusk Mane has more votes than Koraidon rn

rustic mountain
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u will see cir teams tho

mighty stump
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How many games to figure out doesn’t really be needed

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Only because established teams are so prevalent

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and so central

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you should be able to mentally picture the MU

rustic mountain
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i chose dawn wings out of 4 shit mons

timber falcon
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Also how deep should I look into the meta? What amount of usage makes a mon well, meta

rustic mountain
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cuz its the least shit

mighty stump
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Like you should be able to name the 6 members of a standard CIR team

timber falcon
mighty stump
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and their variations

timber falcon
mighty stump
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Then you should be able to know what their opens are

rustic mountain
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then u should jus play a lot of games. not knowing the meta ur gna struggle figuring all that out around the team/what u need to adjust

mighty stump
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Singular statistics never tell the full story

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and just using statistics blindly without applying to knowledge/thinking about the information is just as pointless as no stats

bold geode
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That poll had Koraidon and more options

rustic mountain
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experience is the best teacher, u see player tendencies and common lead/teams that u have somewhat of a flow chart on how u play. obviously cant always play it the same but thats why having more games under ur belt helps inform those decisions

bold geode
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I mean Palkia winning rn so

timber falcon
timber falcon
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I forgot the websites…….

rustic mountain
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victory road

mighty stump
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Shocker

timber falcon
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Ok victory road

rustic mountain
mighty stump
molten oasis
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That I won’t touch until post NAIC

timber falcon
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Btw I should look at the consistent teams right

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And shouldn’t focus a lot on scream teal pagos for now?

mighty stump
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VGC Data on Twitter also does really good data.

timber falcon
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Wait I gotta note some of these things down

mighty stump
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You look at teams that look common

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The random techs are preference to player and deviate the norm

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This is the point you should be able to identify the core members and the extras

timber falcon
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got it

rustic mountain
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tofu u gna try nd hit top 500 w/ palkia?

mighty stump
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Fuck no

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LOL

rustic mountain
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ur pretty close tho

bold geode
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Tree, vote for Rayquaza plz lmao

rustic mountain
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link the poll

bold geode
rustic mountain
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1 vote

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nd its mine

bold geode
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Lol
I got two votes in another server, it helps me cope lmao

rustic mountain
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dude just use a good restricted

bold geode
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I can't decide lol so I did this

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Now I wish I could decide lol

rustic mountain
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lmao

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just go down the line of stuff thats broken/really good

autumn vault
# bold geode

A 4 way tie between Lunala Groudon Kyogre and Rayquaza

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Just make another poll but with just those 4 or just decide yourself

bold geode
mighty stump
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Bro Monke's just gonna pick a restricted and then slap the same Balance core on all 4 teams there is no difference

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Illusion of choice

autumn vault
timber falcon
bold geode
timber falcon
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Bruh make it interesting

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Gimmicky if u must

bold geode
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Lmao

autumn vault
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DW > Those

bold geode
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Rn as I'm speaking Palkia has 8
And Dawn Wings and Rayquaza have 4

autumn vault
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Most vote on 1 random pokemon

timber falcon
autumn vault
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Its quite interesting

autumn vault
bold geode
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No the other server actually is close to pushing Palkia thru too lmao

timber falcon
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Palkia supremacy

timber falcon
autumn vault
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Palkia Overrated

timber falcon
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I’ll always choose the worst I can see in a poll

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For the challenge

autumn vault
timber falcon
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Yes

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My point still stands

autumn vault
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Also here is a poll from yesterday, you can still vote in it

timber falcon
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Done

bold geode
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@mighty stump is the horse form any good

mighty stump
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It's fine

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Did I not send a paste

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The above statement implores you to find the paste yourself

bold geode
forest arrow
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Why yall voting palkia

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Gluck Monke 😅

bold geode
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And not like Dialga's
Not the best Mon, but ain't the worst lol

forest arrow
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I forgot what I voted

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Dawn wings

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And Lunala 🥺🤣

bold geode
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One thing I will say is that 2nd place ain't awful if Palkia fails

forest arrow
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Dawn wings TR with Ursaluna

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Vibes

torn parrot
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Good morning afternoon

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After I used zamazenta and zacian iv sort of lost all interest in all other legendaries besides the cute doggies

craggy dagger
timber falcon
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sash ditto?

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what MU could i do into miraidon whim???

autumn vault
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Or Fake Out

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You have Tinkaton iirc

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Want me to send you replays of me bodying miraidon players?

timber falcon
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oh yeah that works with my palkia team lol

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idk why i just never did that

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im thinking of a new team

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i think rilla helps

autumn vault
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How are you struggling against Miraidon when you can click FO through farig

timber falcon
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idk why i never lead with tink

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big dumb moment from me

autumn vault
timber falcon
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nah tink helps a lot there, basically forces miraidon out without getting a hit in

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and i value its typing

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btw does AV bmursaluna work?

autumn vault
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ofc

timber falcon
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at quite a low % though

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maybe ill stick to lorb for now

autumn vault
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Many people run L-Orb

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AV also allows Blood Moon to use Vacuum wave to get a priority move

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I guess thats one reason to run AV

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And ofc more special bulk

timber falcon
timber falcon
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maybe with farig yeah

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for priority

craggy dagger
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teehee

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger GAY

timber falcon
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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yeah

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happy gay month

craggy dagger
chrome knot
timber falcon
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ok so tr and tw combo is harder than i thought

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sometimes im too fast in my own tr

autumn vault
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  1. Modest BMUrsaluna > Timid BM Ursaluna
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  1. Git gud
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And also for the love of god why jolly CIR?

timber falcon
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speed

autumn vault
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Why do you need speed when you can get better in tr

timber falcon
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funni

autumn vault
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Let me construct a CIR Tailroom team

timber falcon
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ok

craggy dagger
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tailroom cir?

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that’s an interesting thought

autumn vault
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You know what, keep jolly CIR

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Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Glacial Lance
  • High Horsepower
  • Trick Room
  • Protect
    Ik i didn't use the remaining 4 evs just pretend those are on hp
craggy dagger
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that’s not gonna work i don’t thin

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it’s gonna be outslowed in tr

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so much KEKWCRY

autumn vault
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I think outspeeding 187 (modest Miraidon/Adamant Koraidon and Chien Pao) in tailwind is good enough

craggy dagger
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hits 200 at tailwind-

Calyrex-Ice
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 132 HP / 76 Atk / 28 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature

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that’s not tailroom then-
that’s just tailwind

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hit 200 and have supports or smth-
don’t got all in cause then you’re not playin trick room at all

chrome knot
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needs attack stat

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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gross

autumn vault
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Still building the tailroom CIR team

craggy dagger
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stop saying tailroom if you’re running max speed KEKWCRY

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that’s just tailwind

autumn vault
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I am not however

autumn vault
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I am running 188 spe

timber falcon
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i think ill just run tw atp

craggy dagger
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yeah

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run scarf on top as well then

timber falcon
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sarcasm or serious

craggy dagger
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as much as i love unorthodox builds-
i know when things aren’t it

craggy dagger
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you run scarf and you get intim cycled to oblivion

timber falcon
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but

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what if i run an defiant mon on the team SatoshiuHmm

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nah tw better

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also i feel like agility caly isnt wort it

craggy dagger
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agility ice rider what KEKWCRY

timber falcon
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you know

tawny grove
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How good is Skeledirge in competitive

timber falcon
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just fast

timber falcon
tawny grove
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What is a better fire type for competitive

timber falcon
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incineroar

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is a great fire type holder, but it depends on the team, some can fill the spot better

tawny grove
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Is Miraidon a good one for a electric or dragon

timber falcon
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btw

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what format are u talking about? just to make sure we're on the some page

tawny grove
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UC

bold geode
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Aight chat

craggy dagger
timber falcon
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also monke we waiting

bold geode
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So
Imma do something with Palkia
But the polls made me start thinking of something else lol

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I ain't gonna say what, just know that it is one of the teams of all time

craggy dagger
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mono water featuring palkia-

bold geode
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Not one of the greatest of all time
But it's one of the teams of all time lol

chrome knot
autumn vault
timber falcon
bold geode
autumn vault
autumn vault
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Please explain

autumn vault
timber falcon
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thanks for the ideas

autumn vault
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I can explain the team if you want

bold geode
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Actually Nova would probably like the 6 lol

timber falcon
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i think i get most points already but it wont hurt to see what u have to say

timber falcon
craggy dagger
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RobinShrug
but it worked is the thing-

autumn vault
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CIR: very obvious
Farigiraf and Whim: Also very obvious
Amoonguss: Good support and takes advantage of TR really well
Urshifu-S: There to counter psychic types and other dark types

timber falcon
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true, somehow

craggy dagger
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all i see is-
everything standard-
a mess

autumn vault
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Raging Bolt: For Kyogre/Sun MU

chrome knot
timber falcon
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it is kinda a mush of standard sets

autumn vault
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I didn't think much of it

timber falcon
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we can tell, u also cooked it up quite fast

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speaking of cooking

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i really wanna know what Monke is up to

autumn vault
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And also i had some quick ideas

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So like, not surprised its not that good

timber falcon
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im curious why whim was chosen for tw though

autumn vault
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Its always nice

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And whim also helps against Dark types

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And encore is always appreciated

timber falcon
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i feel like

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ur making the same mistake as i before

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type MUs only dont get far, they just look good on paper

chrome knot
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doesnt lose to wide guard

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faster taunt, no dragon type attacks, encore trapping and other utility

timber falcon
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sense making that does

autumn vault
timber falcon
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she just naming uses it can have

autumn vault
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Ah ok

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I don't think the team looks too bad but there are places where i can improve

timber falcon
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mhm

autumn vault
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You are always "mhm" even in DMs, what is it this time?

timber falcon
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mhm

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its what i say when i agree, but got nothing to add on

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otherwise id say hmmm

autumn vault
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I am keeping this in my notes

rustic mountain
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 658: Greninja
Types

Water/Dark

Abilities

Torrent, Protean (Hidden), Battle Bond (Special)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

72/95/67/103/71/122

Total

530

Other Formes

Greninja-Bond, Greninja-Ash

foggy lodge
graceful flare
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How has showdown not been sued

craggy dagger
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huh?

autumn vault
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Why run a move that benefits a type thats not even that common?

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It isn't too bad as you can use it to remove the rain and sun

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But outside of those 2 reasons then its a wasted slot

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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TPC knows that sutting down showdown would kill this game

chrome knot
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it wouldn’t

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would have insanely negative impact however kill is a stretch

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plus they have 0 reasons to

graceful flare
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They good get incredible burst money when nintendos ability lawsuit activates

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Does incin uave any other good support moves rather than will o wisp I'm already running knock off parting shot fake out

next stump
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taunt

graceful flare
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Contrary to waht I just wanted I think im gonna use will o wisp bc Idk if there's anything better for my team it can learn

autumn vault
timber falcon
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too complicated for me to process

autumn vault
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Process what i just did

timber falcon
#

no idea what that means

autumn vault
autumn vault
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Has no meaning

timber falcon
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oh lol

graceful flare
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I was planning to make a zacian team but then I absolutely owned this other guys zacian putting him at minus 3 attack so I wouldn't be using zacian anytime soon

timber falcon
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just work around it lul

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heck a defiant mon can just scare away

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anyways time to try and beat floor 200 of pokerougue

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only now did i discover i could cath bosses

autumn vault
timber falcon
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i know what happens

craggy dagger
timber falcon
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watched a few challenges

craggy dagger
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oh pokerogue

timber falcon
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yeah

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havent played in while cause i caught a shiny swoobat and found out it dont count as shiny woobat for my starters list

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i was infuriated

autumn vault
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The game is super glitchy, trust me

solid frigate
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hoi

autumn vault
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Hello

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Bye

timber falcon
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then never again

autumn vault
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Damn

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Bye OTOT and the people of Comp Chat

timber falcon
#

Gn

graceful flare
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How do u even Come up with that all thse different names

rustic mountain
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it would hurt the comp scene tho

timber falcon
graceful flare
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She has a new pfp and username every time she goes on

patent marsh
rustic mountain
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yep

timber falcon
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maybe its cause nintendo doesnt own all pokemon assets

patent marsh
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Shutting showdown down would just greatly inconvenience all VGC players and possibly into them not even playing anymore if they need to retrain mons just to test new spreads being very tedious to do

rustic mountain
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if they were smart they would make their own battle sim. i think the fact they havent and sd still exists just shows where they are at

patent marsh
craggy dagger
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it’s pride month-
i was starlit novie-
now i’m starlit rainbow?

graceful flare
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Ohh

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Now I get it

patent marsh
#

If you can't recognize their display name you just tap their icon check their handle name

craggy dagger
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teehee

graceful flare
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O thought u were changing ur name like u do every 7 seconds

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Did u finish ur sv team

craggy dagger
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yeah

timber falcon
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nova where is that quote from

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the shimmering starlight one

bold geode
graceful flare
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U aren't trying to use your favourites are you?

bold geode
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Actually nvm I'm fuckin stupid

patent marsh
timber falcon
graceful flare
#

Like what

timber falcon
timber falcon
craggy dagger
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no their asking me what teams i made with my favs

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

ah ok

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full eeveelution huh

craggy dagger
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i’m tempted to add zamazenta and call zam the legendary eevee

craggy dagger
graceful flare
timber falcon
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i agree

craggy dagger
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give me 10 reasons

graceful flare
#

Ok

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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cause these teams have been working pretty well

solid frigate
timber falcon
craggy dagger
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mhm

timber falcon
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oh thats cool

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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lugia is a bit wonky cause brave bird kinda messes up multiscale but it works

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so usually i always bring lugia and comfey together

timber falcon
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have u tried skill swap dancer yet?

craggy dagger
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on lugia?

timber falcon
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mhm

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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haven’t thought abt it but sounds interesting

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i’ll try it out

graceful flare
solid frigate
timber falcon
solid frigate
graceful flare
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When I mean meta I mean calyrex shadow he never let's me down

bold geode
graceful flare
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Torrent I won

solid frigate
bold geode
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Interesting convo y'all got
Anyways, what the cooking going on today

timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
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what r u doing with the palkia idea thing Monke

graceful flare
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From what I remember I'm pretty sure he protected on one of them and I made sure to send his iron boulder back to the future

bold geode
timber falcon
bold geode
craggy dagger
graceful flare
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Ok ok we can improvise

bold geode
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Jamie Boyt invalidates that argument lol

graceful flare
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Only 1 favourite per team

timber falcon
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yk this is a funni convo i like it

solid frigate
bold geode
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But no I'm cooking something else, which I won't say

solid frigate
graceful flare
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I don't use my favourites bc they are bad

craggy dagger
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i think i’m winning plenty enough,
i’m good enough at vgc that i can actually come up with my own builds instead of being a hive mind follow this meta spread,
and tbh-
that last point is kinda…
stupid cause almost any pokemon can be good if you know how to use it-
the meta ppl just lack creativity to make them work

craggy dagger
#

as shown by my-
25:5 win/loss ratio for my cindy team KEKWCRY

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man…
that suicune spread i made was amazing-

timber falcon
#

unironically u need a good understanding of the meta to beat it lol

graceful flare
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I don't use my favourites apart from urshifu calyrex ogerpon sometimes terapagos I just somehow like dlc pokemonway more than base game ones

craggy dagger
#

but that suicune could take a grass tera ivy cudgel to the face-

Goal Keeper #1 (Suicune) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 164 HP / 196 Def / 28 SpA / 36 SpD / 84 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Tailwind
  • Snarl
  • Icy Wind
  • Scald
timber falcon
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im tryna understand it so i can make as much niche as a want

timber falcon
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seems very physically bulky

graceful flare
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Ok to make it very niche use mons that have less then 0.2 usages

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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teehee

252+ Atk Tera Grass Ogerpon-Teal-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 164 HP / 196+ Def Suicune: 164-196 (83.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

timber falcon
#

bruh

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

but what about the big Monke SatoshiuHmm

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nvm nothings living SE wood hammer

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
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and idt any rilla runs max atk adamant

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i’ve never seen any at least

timber falcon
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i do

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i like my rillas stronk lul, id only not do it if im not making the spread myself

craggy dagger
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252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 164 HP / 196+ Def Suicune in Grassy Terrain: 234-276 (119.3 - 140.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
miracle seed doesn’t live though

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without terrain

252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 164 HP / 196+ Def Suicune: 180-212 (91.8 - 108.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

this was in reg F though so

timber falcon
#

there was one on stream

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

also im loving tw +sd caly lmao

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im getting KOs i never new i could get

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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teehee

252+ SpA Kyogre Thunder vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 132-156 (67.3 - 79.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

solid frigate
#

you give me more hate on Caly Ice

craggy dagger
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252+ SpA Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Thunderbolt vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 130-154 (66.3 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

timber falcon
craggy dagger
#

smile1

so id like to think i know the meta well

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 245: Suicune
Type

Water

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/75/115/90/115/85

Total

580

solid frigate
#

wait i think its equally bulky as Cresselia

timber falcon
#

nova can u show paste of the team?

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 488: Cresselia
Type

Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

120/70/110/75/120/85

Total

580

solid frigate
#

oh wait Cresselia is more tanky

craggy dagger
#

it’s a roll-

+1 252+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 172-204 (87.7 - 104%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

solid frigate
#

Suicune @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 116 SpA / 52 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Tailwind
  • Scald
  • Icy Wind
  • Protect

I used this set

#

idk i need to change it

craggy dagger
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252+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Hyper Beam vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 162-192 (82.6 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 78-92 (39.7 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Tera Grass Suicune: 78-92 (39.7 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

teehee

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
#

i should use suicune then

solid frigate
#

that has some potential

craggy dagger
#

what’s another threat i have to worry about

solid frigate
#

hmmmmmmmmmm

chrome knot
#

@craggy dagger team idea

craggy dagger
#

252+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera Grass Flutter Mane Energy Ball vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 194-230 (98.9 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Energy Ball vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 130-154 (66.3 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

timber falcon
craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

i go and take a nap

craggy dagger
#

i mean…

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Suicune in Electric Terrain: 570-672 (290.8 - 342.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

kinda obvious-

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

it’s usually 36 specs though

#

right?
or have ppl been running max more

bold geode
solid frigate
#

idk i think its Max Max Min but i could be wrong

craggy dagger
#

nvm it doesn’t live anything KEKWCRY

solid frigate
#

anyways

#

Do i need to Edit My Dawn Wings Team to be more like Lunala?

craggy dagger
#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Tera Grass Suicune in Electric Terrain: 107-126 (54.5 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Volt Switch vs. 164 HP / 36 SpD Tera Grass Suicune in Electric Terrain: 75-89 (38.2 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

oh hey-
it lives if i tera

bold geode
#

Rajan followed his name
Said "fuck it we Bal"

bold geode
#

That's a fire ass tweet though hold up

craggy dagger
#

anyways i think im done proving my point-
i know what im doing RobinGiggle

solid frigate
willow vault
#

I love team building the current format, I hate playing it

solid frigate
#

i might edit my Dawn Wings to be close to Lunala

timber falcon
#

whats a tr threat that can also run fast

willow vault
#

Turbo Incineroar

solid frigate
#

Overlord (Necrozma-Dawn-Wings) @ Power Herb
Ability: Prism Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moongeist Beam
  • Expanding Force
  • Meteor Beam
  • Trick Room

Lunala @ Power Herb
Ability: Shadow Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 68 Def / 172 SpA / 68 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Trick Room
  • Moongeist Beam
  • Meteor Beam
  • Wide Guard

Should i build it similar to Lunala

craggy dagger
timber falcon
#

what about turbo moongus

bold geode
#

Lunala technically I guess?

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Oh also Blood Moon Ursaluna in a sense

timber falcon
#

scarf max timif tw moongus

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im onto somwthing

craggy dagger
#

lunala works-
i’m thinking maybe gambit too?

timber falcon
#

im lf something that pairs with caly-i

solid frigate
willow vault
#

That doesn’t run speed though because of priority

craggy dagger
#

but you’re sometimes clicking kowtow

willow vault
solid frigate
#

And Pelipper

willow vault
#

It works very well outside of trick room

timber falcon
#

i need smth to cover for what caly cant cover

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like flutter

craggy dagger
#

slow pao /s

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

watershifu

willow vault
rustic mountain
#

it stops the move completely

#

if successful

timber falcon
timber falcon
#

and im struggling with which tera does best

willow vault
#

Urshifu-r

solid frigate
#

Lando and Urshifu Rapid

timber falcon
#

i think ill go shifu atp

willow vault
solid frigate
#

i somehow tried Lando and Torn in the same team with Terapagos and i kinda don't like how weather dependant i am with that prototype-

timber falcon
willow vault
#

Fair

willow vault
timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
#

i think i gotta redo team

#

things and reasons mons are there has gotten messy

craggy dagger
solid frigate
willow vault
#

I hear The British bros are needed

#

It could have been the British battalion GengarSad

solid frigate
#

i mean outside us 3 idk who are british here

timber falcon
#

we british residents 3

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also im loving iron jugulis so much rn

willow vault
#

Nice

timber falcon
#

perfect into balance caly-s core

willow vault
#

For snarl + tailwind?

timber falcon
#

not just that even

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it also gets shifu off the board nicely, along with rilla and a potential pon

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i just need a good set into miraidon core now

willow vault
#

Tera ground rilla?

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That’s generally very strong into it

timber falcon
#

im also considering AV bm

willow vault
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Pair it with Clefairy and if it’s choiced, miraidon does not enjoy the game

timber falcon
#

i know i need redirection im just wondering if clefairy is the right one

willow vault
#

Friend guard is really good

timber falcon
#

true that helps caly a lot

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haha ill make it tera ground

#

mind games bouta be crazy with mirai

willow vault
#

But Tera grass is the more optimal choice for Clefairy?

solid frigate
timber falcon
polar canyon
timber falcon
#

omg i havent seen u in a while i dont think

#

hello

polar canyon
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Hi

#

Sometimes I just stop thinking about a hobby I have

#

For either a few days or months

timber falcon
#

fair enough, just a long break

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

oh i just realised with SD i dont even need to run max attack caly

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 101: Electrode
Type

Electric

Abilities

Soundproof, Static, Aftermath (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/70/80/80/150

Total

490

Other Formes

Electrode-Hisui

craggy dagger
#

...

timber falcon
#

you wouldnt

chrome knot
#

BOMB!

craggy dagger
#

nah

dapper crag
#
Electrode's moveset:
Physical Moves

Bide, Double-Edge, Explosion, Facade, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Natural Gift, Rage, Return, Rollout, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Spark, Sucker Punch, Supercell Slam, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mirror Coat, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Sonic Boom, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Charge, Confide, Curse, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Flash, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magnet Rise, Magnetic Flux, Metal Sound, Mimic, Protect, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swagger, Taunt, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Electrode.

timber falcon
craggy dagger
#

unless...?

timber falcon
#

can make a very specific support mon

craggy dagger
#

speedy screech xD

timber falcon
#

eerie impulse too

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taunt, twave, eweb as well

craggy dagger
#

Electrode @ Focus Sash
Ability: Soundproof
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Electroweb
  • Taunt
  • Tera Blast
  • Volt Switch

...

#

nah

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 101: Electrode-Hisui
Types

Electric/Grass

Abilities

Soundproof, Static, Aftermath (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/70/80/80/150

Total

490

Base Species

Electrode

polar canyon
#

This guy tho

dapper crag
#
Electrode-Hisui's moveset:
Physical Moves

Bullet Seed, Double-Edge, Explosion, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Gyro Ball, Rollout, Seed Bomb, Self-Destruct, Supercell Slam, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Chloroblast, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Agility, Charge, Curse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Leech Seed, Protect, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Stun Spore, Substitute, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Electrode-Hisui.

#
Electrode-Hisui's moveset:
Physical Moves

Bullet Seed, Double-Edge, Explosion, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Gyro Ball, Rollout, Seed Bomb, Self-Destruct, Supercell Slam, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Chloroblast, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Agility, Charge, Curse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Leech Seed, Protect, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Stun Spore, Substitute, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Electrode-Hisui.

solid frigate
#

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

polar canyon
#

Bot spam chat

chrome knot
#

wooooaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

polar canyon
#

It's like the same with a better typing

solid frigate
craggy dagger
north pagoda
bold geode
#

Aight, my cook is done for rn except I might want to calc some shit for one Mon lol
I test later

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 815: Cinderace
Type

Fire

Abilities

Blaze, Libero (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/116/75/65/75/119

Total

530

graceful flare
#

Is having rillaboom and indeedee on the same team good bc they each set different terrains

cosmic warren
#

it can be if thats really what you wanna do but you probably just need rilla because you can uturn out

solid frigate
#

Focus on one Terrain

cosmic warren
#

or play ice spinner

solid frigate
#

i generally focus on one terrain if i don't play Chien Pao

cosmic warren
#

dragonite and shifu can too

solid frigate
cosmic warren
#

dragonite did in a japanese event that got 2nd i think

solid frigate
#

the Bologna Event Dragonite runs E-Speed,Outrage,Giga Impact and other move that is not ice spinner

cosmic warren
#

i said japanese

solid frigate
solid frigate
#

yeah outside of that i think they run these more now

#

beat a Zamazenta Team in a disadvantage

#

Chi Yu and Amoonguss are MVP

bold geode
#

Set calced lol

solid frigate
bold geode
solid frigate
#

Oh yeah it has Ogerpon and Mienshao as well as Incineroar

bold geode
#

Well I will always be a Zamazenta main at heart, but I am not running Zamazenta this time

solid frigate
#

i will stay as Terapagos Main

bold geode
#

I thought of a concept earlier and I built a team that don't look half bad but also might be ass

#

We don't know unless fuck it we ball

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Oh nah imma test it
But if it works, y'all will see blog content

solid frigate
#

I need to update my Terapagos MU

elder python
#

anyone a bss player who can rate my team

chrome knot
#

sir this is a wendys

solid frigate
silver ravine
#

Besides Indeedee-F, who else would be a good fit for a team built around Iron Crown?

little plank
#

I haven't seen an iron crown in quite some time lol

molten oasis
#

Iron crown good with indeedee and indeedee only

#

Psyspam guy

silver ravine
#

I mean what I like about Iron Crown is you're not forced into using TR. Not to say you can't have TR, but you're not forced. With tera water it can take out Incin, so there's really only Rilla to worry about.

bold geode
#

My mom be watching Dragon Ball and hearing the intro is a vibe

rustic mountain
#

dragon ball is goated

bold geode
#

It do be

craggy dagger
solid frigate
mighty stump
onyx crown
#

I was rewarded greatly by Zamazenta. As soon as I got to him, he went into the first xPoke I threw. Not even a single breakout. Seems that he knew as well how badly I wanted this to be over with

#

14 hours, 18 minutes. What an awful experience.

chrome knot
#

ALSO NOVA LMFAO

#

tell me why toronto mcdonalds on the kiosk asks me how many fucking bags i want

solid frigate
#

Pago Pago

chrome knot
#

i was CRYING laughing it was like a jumpscare

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

i ordered 1 meal tf they do if i select 5 bags

solid frigate
#

5???

WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE TURTLE DO THEY GIVE YOU 5 BAGS FOR? VOMITING?

molten oasis
#

probably just being polite, ig

solid frigate
#

2 is fine, 3 is pushing it

#

but 5 is just absurd-

solid frigate
#

GrenFacepalm kindly appriciate the kind gesture but its just too absurd

chrome knot
#

my options on the screen were 0-5

#

i was almost crying laughing iwl

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

5 bags for a 5 nuggies

#

one for each nuggie RobinGiggle

#

emma go to bed it’s midnight

solid frigate
#

someone used Swagger On Tinkaton and Terapagos just invalidated it

craggy dagger
#

wha-

solid frigate
#

Killed my Tornadus but Terapagos Gets his Revenge

#

and they forfieted when Terapagos Murdered it with Earth Power Crit

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

+1 236+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Earth Power vs. 64 HP / 0 SpD Tera Water Tinkaton on a critical hit: 146-173 (86.9 - 102.9%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

#

i got the high roll

craggy dagger
#

oo nice nice

#

this seems right as a disclaimer to anyone who comes to oppose my builds-

mighty stump
#

I got annoyed enough by this channel I ranted on twitter

solid frigate
#

tf-

mighty stump
#

By randos

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Probably the only time ive ever ranted on social media

#

is always related to here

solid frigate
#

F

mighty stump
#

its like watching full force human stupidity in action

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Yeah but I also can’t ignore some of them if they’re gonna spread stupid opinions

cyan smelt
#

like saying gastrodon is an answer to kyogre lol

solid frigate
mighty stump
solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Gastrodon 4v1

solid frigate
#

also like i kinda wanna rant a bit in here

cyan smelt
#

same thing as how ogerpon-w and clodsire are not answers to kyogre

solid frigate
#

I'm I'm I'm kinda is one of the Random with Stupid Logic and bullshit and somehow report us 3 seperate times, one with Kal0s,Me and Lyco and one of them is Me and Monke

#

and he is still here, reporting us for not helping him

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like can he/she/they think about wtf why we don't care about him?

mighty stump
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Just let them

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If you did nothing wrong then the report doesn't matter

solid frigate
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we might as well just don't give a fucking shit

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bro said only one favourites

Dude thats just-

mighty stump
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Only one favourites?

solid frigate
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yeah he said that

mighty stump
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Well, I just don't read their messages or interact with them, so I don't know what they say.

solid frigate
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but like i really do disagree

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like for example,you with Snorlax,Me and Nova with Whimsicott

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like its just does not work

mighty stump
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I have a lot of favourites

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I can't use most of them

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I don't cry about it

solid frigate
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Heck i want to use Greninja but i know Pwoer Creep will destroy it so i did not bother using it

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and i just liek:Eh i mean it was inevitable

mighty stump
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I'm pretty sure almost every team of mine I featured and wrote about is either off-meta or just a variation barring one or two

solid frigate
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like exactly,you can be Off Meta for some occasions

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and speaking of off Meta,Pizza's Here

mighty stump
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  • Snorlax x2
  • Pikachu
  • Empoleon and Illumise
  • Okidogi
  • Corviknight and Sableye
  • Scream Tail in Reg C
  • AV Annihilape
strange fjord
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I love building off meta teams. I love them even more when they occasionally work.

mighty stump
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I am literally never against people using off-meta/favouritism with the caveat if they know what they are doing

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You can drive a car with 3 wheels if you want but if you can't drive in the first place you're not getting in the car