#competitive_discussion

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bold geode
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Lmao even the random guy knows lmao

solid frigate
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if its useless then why its in Like 40% of the teams in LA

lofty tartan
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To be fair, they said "useless on my team". It's not much of a distinction but it's important.

Granted, Incineroar isn't very useless on any team

midnight compass
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Fake out and parting shot are some of the most broken moves on the game, not to include its intimidate ability

lofty tartan
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I wouldn't call Parting Shot "broken", but good.

bold geode
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Show team lmao

lofty tartan
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Parting Shot is especially useful on Incineroar.

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But by no means are Fake Out and Parting Shot broken.

solid frigate
solid frigate
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heck i am using one

lofty tartan
midnight compass
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Against calyrex it’s a perfect matchup, and everyone and their mom uses calyrex shadow

onyx crown
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Koraidon > Miraidon imo

midnight compass
tawdry urchin
bold geode
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Incin is not useless on your team sir

bold geode
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Or ma'am
Or they/them

lofty tartan
tawdry urchin
solid frigate
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Bro lives in Gen 5-6 days

lofty tartan
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Its Terapagos,Stellar form Terapagos.

onyx crown
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I just can't get over how goofy it looks.

bold geode
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I'm done here folks lmao

lofty tartan
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I don't think it's goofy. That's the thing about personal opinions on how things look

midnight compass
solid frigate
lofty tartan
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I bought Violet because I liked Miraidon more than Koraidon.

onyx crown
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To me, this looks more like an actual legendary than Miraidon.

midnight compass
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Lmaoo

onyx crown
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Sucks that they can't be shiny hunted though. Goofy as Miraidon is, it's got a pretty good shiny

solid frigate
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finally next round

onyx crown
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I'm biased to chrome tho

bold geode
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Y'all have opinions? Gross

solid frigate
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i love how the caster first guessing Minior for the final Pokedex question while i just Locked on Terapagos-

onyx crown
lofty tartan
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I think nicknaming pokemon serves no purpose and they're cute stat blocks dressed up for my amusement in smashing them violently together.

onyx crown
lofty tartan
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I'm an atypical pokemon player.

bold geode
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I made this disaster bringing horror box a fucking teacup for my own amusement

lofty tartan
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And now it's time for caramel pecan coffee.

onyx crown
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I don't like the raccoon meme that recently started making rounds on the internet. It's not funny.

solid frigate
midnight compass
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I’m dumb though

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Don’t mind me 😂

onyx crown
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It literally isn't a good meme.

solid frigate
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Lunala vs Caly S

midnight compass
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🥲

bold geode
solid frigate
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That Caly S player being the Cowboy lol

onyx crown
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Pablo was funnier than Pedro.

bold geode
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The cowboy hat lol
Yeehaw borther

bold geode
solid frigate
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HISUIAN GOODRA IN CALY S?

bold geode
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Bro got that yeehaw energy

bold geode
solid frigate
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HUH???

solid frigate
onyx crown
midnight compass
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That team looks like something you face every time you match up in master rank 😂

solid frigate
onyx crown
bold geode
solid frigate
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that Dozo front Cam looks Hilarious

bold geode
# onyx crown Pablo

Oh I'd take that call
I wanna be in a call with Pablo, Pedro, and John Pork

solid frigate
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Plays Ogerpon Theme

Ogerpon is not even in those 2 teams-

onyx crown
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Ogerpon drops from the heavens and hits them both with a metal chair.

solid frigate
onyx crown
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Jesus. I keep forgetting that I changed my wallpaper and I keep jumping when I see it for no reason.

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I just expect my usual G-Max Melmetal wallpaper and I get jumped by this dude

solid frigate
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Eggman wtf you doing-

gentle badger
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G-Max eggman

bold geode
onyx crown
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This image honestly goes hard.

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Bright Powder Tatsugiri is definitely...an item

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I am genuinely confused how that team is 4-0

solid frigate
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Calyrex?

mighty stump
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Did we really not have any other games

molten oasis
solid frigate
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idek at this point

solid frigate
bold geode
molten oasis
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I don’t believe you

mighty stump
bold geode
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Sadge

molten oasis
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This emerald rogue run I’m on is being carried by an arceus

bold geode
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Not even the receipts could save me bro

molten oasis
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Yea cuz you’re not funny oldmanshrug

bold geode
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Welp
Back to brain soup wizard then

polar canyon
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true true

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I think monke is funny 50% of the time

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That's enough in my book

bold geode
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Thx bro
You the real MVP

mighty stump
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Your brainrot is advanced, I'm afraid.

polar canyon
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My brain is too sigma to rot

mighty stump
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Wow I have never seen such immediate irony

bold geode
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And I was diagnosed 2 months ago

polar canyon
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Is it treatable

smoky hawk
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This is exciting and all but damn... it is the slowest regional I've ever seen. It began almost 7hrs ago and only in R5?

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
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The brainrot is a disease damn

solid frigate
bold geode
bold geode
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Yuh huh

solid frigate
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Guh Huh

bold geode
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Also ngl
I farted and I jumped cuz I got scared

molten oasis
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Ah so the disease also causes you to be scared of your own farts

bold geode
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It was quiet and then just loud fart bruh lmao

molten oasis
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It just happened

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You didn’t feel anything, it just happened

bold geode
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Yes

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Actually no I felt it, but it didn't feel as big as it was

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It was deceiving

molten oasis
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I see

bold geode
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At least it wasn't surprise shit attack

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Sharting is truly an embarrassing feeling

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Oh, what was notable from the regional

solid frigate
bold geode
molten oasis
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Ah

onyx crown
solid frigate
onyx crown
solid frigate
smoky hawk
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Is he cosplaying as a Texan?

solid frigate
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well a cowboy but yeah

bold geode
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He basically like 90/10 got the accent down

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@next stump how doing

solid frigate
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wait yeah

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No Caly Ice in Stream yet

bold geode
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Bruh Wolfe got beat in that online tour by Dawn Wings Necrozma lmao

smoky hawk
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Why is this the last regional of the year?

solid frigate
bold geode
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So Keanu and Michael Zhang are both 4-1 rn

smoky hawk
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Void!

next stump
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2-3 drop, tourney started 4 hours late and I played 3 Necrozma Dawn Wings :))

solid frigate
solid frigate
next stump
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yep hahaha they are cutting it early tonight and continuing it tomorrow

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it’s psyspam with torkoal/lilligant

smoky hawk
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I'm a former tournament smash player. I still watch the big tourneys, so I know Void

next stump
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my team has no matchup into that

solid frigate
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So Dawn Wings has Potential

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its just how you build it

bold geode
bold geode
next stump
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7

forest arrow
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Was it like Dawn wings, Armadee, lillikoal, Gallade?

bold geode
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Throw do you wanna be legendary

forest arrow
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Oh there’s also the Luna variant too

next stump
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dawn wings, indeedee, ursaluna, lillikoal

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gallade

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both teams were the same

forest arrow
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nice, I tried similar with ice horse

solid frigate
bold geode
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Yeah lol

forest arrow
bold geode
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I always say it lol

forest arrow
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Oh lol

bold geode
forest arrow
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😉

solid frigate
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tortol

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nom

onyx crown
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And then it explodes

south shuttle
solid frigate
south shuttle
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Teraform Zero to all the main threats

onyx crown
bold geode
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Wtf is happening in LA?

south shuttle
bold geode
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Annihilape, Lugia and Comfey in 5-0 rn

solid frigate
solid frigate
solid frigate
south shuttle
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I hate good Pokémon unless I’m using them 😡😡😡

onyx crown
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I don't hate Terapagos. I just find it also ugly. But its less ugly than Miraidon so I am fine with allowing it on my team

solid frigate
solid frigate
onyx crown
solid frigate
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but then again

south shuttle
onyx crown
onyx crown
south shuttle
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We all know koraidon is the best legendary in s/v 💯💯

onyx crown
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No. I need my money to go gambling later.

bold geode
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BRO IS SPEAKING FAXX

onyx crown
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Is that a guy carrying a shark on that dude's shirt.

south shuttle
bold geode
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God I've basically been doing VGC for a year or over now for sure

onyx crown
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Regice has the best shiny out of any Pokémon. That's another mild take I have.

south shuttle
onyx crown
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God I hate Rayquaza.

solid frigate
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@molten oasis Zacian vs Koraidon

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in Round 6

molten oasis
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Oo

onyx crown
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Koraidon is gonna get moidured.

south shuttle
solid frigate
molten oasis
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STELLAR ZACIAN

onyx crown
south shuttle
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Who runs stellar

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Other than terapagos

solid frigate
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wait, WHY SHADOW BALL

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onyx crown
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I only run stellar on my Arceus so I can farm Tera raids.

south shuttle
molten oasis
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Both sides have gothitelle, interesting

onyx crown
solid frigate
mighty stump
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I guess its for Fake Outs that you can't stop by just switching in Farigiraf

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Since you can't switch

south shuttle
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I can’t tell what’s worse

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Bringing back gen 8 zacian

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Bringing back geomancy xerneas

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Or bringing back mega rayquaza

solid frigate
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Geomancy Xerneas

bold geode
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Bruh my phone was in my pocket, had to pull it out cuz I heard Zacian lmao

solid frigate
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at least Incin can take care of Zacian,Mega Rayquaza kinda just-

south shuttle
bold geode
solid frigate
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Isn't mostly Life Orb?

bold geode
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ANNIHILAPE

south shuttle
solid frigate
onyx crown
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If Mega Rayquaza returns, so will Mega Aggron. I'll be fine with the stupid emo dragon as long as I get the Wall back

south shuttle
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Doesn’t rayquaza get eq?

onyx crown
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Can't outstall the Wall

south shuttle
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It’s quad weak

onyx crown
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Mega Aggron is pure Steel and has Filter.

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Goofy.

solid frigate
south shuttle
onyx crown
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Of course

south shuttle
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Don’t ray get sd

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 306: Aggron-Mega
Type

Steel

Abilities

Filter

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/140/230/60/80/50

Total

630

Base Species

Aggron

south shuttle
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And v create

solid frigate
solid frigate
south shuttle
solid frigate
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SD Ray is better

south shuttle
solid frigate
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Event Exclusive Moves are banned

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If its not banned,Most Lugias would run Psycho Boost

south shuttle
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Then why not switch out

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Groudon should be back if Megas are back

onyx crown
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Imagine getting bit by this rq

solid frigate
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cuz Gen 9 Mons aren't kidding-

south shuttle
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And it evaporates water attacks

molten oasis
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Ggs

onyx crown
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Primal Groudon would still dominate. 100%

molten oasis
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It tried

south shuttle
long narwhal
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What can replace flutter mane (ubers)

south shuttle
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Rock polish sd gonna obliterate gen 9

solid frigate
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onyx crown
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Imagine Primal Groudon in Gen 9. It'd make Urshifu Rapid Strike completely useless.

south shuttle
south shuttle
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Still can be a threat in vgc

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Precipice blades

onyx crown
long narwhal
solid frigate
solid frigate
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and didn't Primal Kyogre won 2016 Worlds?

south shuttle
long narwhal
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Whats the pokemon with the most worlds?

onyx crown
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Isn't it Incineroar already

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Or Landorus.

solid frigate
south shuttle
solid frigate
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Isn't Flutter Mane Ubers in Singles

onyx crown
south shuttle
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I meant specially defensive

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With leftovers

long narwhal
onyx crown
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Better

bold geode
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Honestly
Not bad

solid frigate
south shuttle
onyx crown
south shuttle
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Unless you want to run superpower enamorus

long narwhal
long narwhal
bold geode
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I don't see much wrong with Stellar Zacian

dapper crag
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yo yo, can anyone help me with teambuilding? Im newish just got masters for first time with kyurem white team and I wanna make a strong calyrex shadow team

solid frigate
long narwhal
solid frigate
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also me and Monke just belive in Calyrex Shadow+Kommo-o

bold geode
dapper crag
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Ayy thanks man, calyrex or honestly a strong team in general

onyx crown
solid frigate
bold geode
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So basically you want double Fake Out/redirection (don't need both imo, but both is great)
So Incin Rilla is always good, and Calyrex can do Nasty Plot with this

onyx crown
solid frigate
dapper crag
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I have the kyurem team I can show and see if yall have any ideas to make it stronger

bold geode
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I actually kinda like the shadow Honse now

bold geode
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Do you know how to send Pokepastes or work Showdown?

dapper crag
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ye ye

solid frigate
bold geode
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Ok, send a paste of the team then preferably lol

solid frigate
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holy shi

dapper crag
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I goofed XD

bold geode
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My question is why Choice Scarf?

solid frigate
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finally someone actually knows how to use paste

dapper crag
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Outspeed threats like miraidon and koraidon to kill them

solid frigate
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use Assault Vest

bold geode
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Now imma say
You do realize you got Prankster Tailwind correct?

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Then I guess Miraidon has Whims

dapper crag
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True true but if they have a prankster too then its ggs for me

foggy lodge
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i lost at round 1 at the tournament but it was streamed and the people in the chat went crazy when i got a fissure so it was worth it

dapper crag
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and tailwind

bold geode
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Actually
@lofty tartan getcho ass in here

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Bet Ill try it

bold geode
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@forest arrow BABE GET IN HERE

solid frigate
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Dengo i have a set from Drago

bold geode
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This is Specs Dengo though

dapper crag
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I have a vc yall can join

bold geode
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Can't VC rn
Lemme try to do an evaluation of whole thing

solid frigate
# bold geode This is Specs Dengo though

Money Bag (Gholdengo) @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 60 Def / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
  • Nasty Plot
  • Protect

I think Drago's seems solid

forest arrow
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Huh?

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Damn wide league started maybe next weekend

bold geode
# dapper crag https://pokepast.es/0a8e82f5be954b70

So first off, you can try AV or Life Orb on Kyurem, though I do see your logic some with Scarf

Tornadus would like some bulk if Covert Cloak, Sash on max max is something too

Incin is wasting EVs, go down to 12 attack and 76 speed and add the 8 EVs you get from that into Defense I guess

Ogerpon also wasting, take 4 SpDef and put em in speed to even that out

Flutter would like some bulk too,
148/0/124/84/4/148 I believe is my booster EV spread with Timid nature and it ain't bad, lives Adamant Ice Spinner from Chien Pao

Gholdengo could possibly be replaced for something else imo, although maybe Lando or Bolt, Dengo is probably still fine as it keeps you from auto losing to Zamazenta here

bold geode
dapper crag
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What a dub thank yal

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Tried life orb gonna try assault vest

bold geode
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No problem, not bad team, just experiment with some stuff really lol

forest arrow
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You’ll appreciate av

dapper crag
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bet bet

bold geode
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Need more help, just ask
Someone will be here lol

forest arrow
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Kyu needs Earth power and Fusion Flare tbh

dapper crag
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Oh ye i got both

solid frigate
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except the item

forest arrow
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Yeah I seen, lemme see if I have paste

dapper crag
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Do i change evs on kyurem or tornadus?

forest arrow
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Honestly, I’ve had a few drinks so won’t be much help rn but I’ll send pastes to help with ideas

forest arrow
bold geode
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LMAO

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It's ok babe, you can drunk text me anytime

dapper crag
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What a dub, who should I replace gholdengo with, his main purpose was to shut down fairies too

forest arrow
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I liked the Ghold Variant but if you switched incin for chi yu you could run Dark Ursh

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Okay that’s all the help I’ll be atm lmao, much love lol GengHeart PikaLmao

dapper crag
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ty ty

forest arrow
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Ofc

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I will let you know playing with Kyu is like forcing yourself to play the game in hard mode

dapper crag
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its okay hes my goat

forest arrow
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Sweet just wanted it to be known GengHeart

molten oasis
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Playing any of the not top tier restricteds is playing in hard more

solid frigate
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even tho it lost twice

foggy lodge
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guys how bad MU do you consider Kyogre-Landorus Incarnate vs Zamazenta?

molten oasis
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No zacian is like, good

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Idt I’m coping anymore I just think it’s good

forest arrow
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Idk screens Lunala went hard today

solid frigate
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but it did pretty well

forest arrow
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I’m definitely trying it

molten oasis
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I’m just not playing the game rn

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I am frustrated and lost as I’ve said before

solid frigate
molten oasis
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So I’m just taking the weekend off

foggy lodge
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every once in a while i think that every restricted has atleast something good that justifies using it

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and is like "okay let's start, mewtwo"

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and i can't defend it

solid frigate
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Mewtwo is just

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Gets Outclassed

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by Loads of Psychic Types and Special Attackers

forest arrow
forest arrow
smoky hawk
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Why have I heard them multiple times comparing bleakwind storm and moonblast? They aren't similar, like at all

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Just a good ability could save it

foggy lodge
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Not like super meta, but so it can be respectable

solid frigate
south shuttle
foggy lodge
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dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 150: Mewtwo
Type

Psychic

Abilities

Pressure, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/110/90/154/90/130

Total

680

Other Formes

Mewtwo-Mega-X, Mewtwo-Mega-Y

foggy lodge
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Just give it a bit more of bulk

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Everything else is good

south shuttle
solid frigate
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Mewtwo SUCKS

forest arrow
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Mewtwo?

south shuttle
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Just give it any ability but pressure

forest arrow
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I’d rather use Splash, Cosmic power Cosmoem

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Ability: Neuroforce

This Pokemon's attacks that are super effective against the target have their damage multiplied by 1.25.

solid frigate
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its not even that OP,it has to be Super Effective

forest arrow
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lol that wouldn’t be enough to change anything

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Mewtwo is ass

foggy lodge
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Does Mewtwo atleast learn Wide Guard

dapper crag
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Mewtwo's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Psycho Cut, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Earth Power, Electro Ball, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Psystrike, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Barrier, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Detect, Disable, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Guard Swap, Hail, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Laser Focus, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Miracle Eye, Mist, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recover, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Role Play, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Speed Swap, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mewtwo.

solid frigate
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nope

foggy lodge
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Nope

solid frigate
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absol?

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That pokedex looks like Absol

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idk

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SHADOW RIDER?

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Is that my little girl whimsicott?

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Calyrex Ice Rider vs Miraidon

dusty gate
solid frigate
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Imposters

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finally the music is right cuz Lando exists

bold geode
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Lmao I didn't notice the hoodie said mid lmao

solid frigate
bold geode
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Kinda funny
I also didn't notice until now, cuz my dumbass can't read

solid frigate
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but then again

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the blue blends well so i guess its not your fault

midnight compass
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Anyone know if there is a better userof Follow me and Wide guard than Smeargle?

foggy lodge
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Hmmmm

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I don't think any Pokémon learns both moves at the same time

solid frigate
midnight compass
solid frigate
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Amoonguss Pelipper is solid

foggy lodge
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Pelipper, Zamazenta for wide guard

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even Mienshao

solid frigate
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Lunala as well

midnight compass
gentle cragBOT
forest arrow
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Calm mind lunala superior

foggy lodge
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and for follow me or redirection in general, amoonguss, indeedee, clefairy

bold geode
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Finally, once this stream is done, got a Wolfe video to watch lol

foggy lodge
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clefairy is the meta call

foggy lodge
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why are people not using Clefairy

solid frigate
bold geode
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Just doing it to see Caly S play lol
Also might just use it as background noise while testing on Showdown

forest arrow
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The double dittos is funny

solid frigate
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wait a second

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if i run Scarf Chi Yu and then Mystic Water Urshifu,would that work

foggy lodge
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ok so i built two terapagos teams

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this is not terapagos lol

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Why does it copies the wrong link lmao

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i made these two, which one do you think is better? and which changes would you make?

solid frigate
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but i think its good

solid frigate
solid frigate
bold geode
solid frigate
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imma just

bold geode
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I need to do some testing lol

solid frigate
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i might need to do major update on my turtle team

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i just need to think outside of the box

bold geode
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Acrobatics Chien Pao

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Why did I fight Acrobatics Chien Pao
Anyways I got to 1200 twice and now just damn
Lost to an RNG and then lost to Acrobatics Chien Pao

foggy lodge
# solid frigate TR turtle?

Nope, i just think i needed some redirection, control against priority moves, terrains, and deactivate opossing trick rooms, and Indeedee gave me that

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But TR Terapagos does not seem bad

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Maybe with something like Fake Tears Flutter Mane

solid frigate
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also like i kinda don't know what i should change on My Terapagos Team

midnight compass
foggy lodge
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And rocky helmet Tornadus or focus sash

solid frigate
solid frigate
midnight compass
solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

I think that still with sitrus you a good match up against Urshifu

foggy lodge
#

Atleast for me i've been running sitrus berry Amoonguss + Safety Goggles Inci in many of my teams and it has worked

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Calyrex hasn't been that big of a problem, normally i have a space so it lets sitrus activate

solid frigate
#

Cresselia actually is for thunder wave and Heal Status Conditions...

solid frigate
bold geode
#

I have actually hit and dropped out of 1200s 3 times now wtf

bold geode
#

Now it's 5 times I've gotten back into 1200s
It's not even like much team issue, but just like
One or two turns where I misplay and it costs me

autumn vault
dapper crag
#

Yes the clefairy was inspired by wolfey

autumn vault
autumn vault
# dapper crag Heya, made a calyrex team, anything I should change? https://pokepast.es/924b5bc...

I will order the things wrong with this team:

  1. 4 EVs aren't used on Tornadus, 80 is the same as 76 evs and 96 is the same as 92 evs, they should be fixed
  2. Raging bolt should be bulky, not fast, if i were you i would hit the benchmark of outspeeding Calyrex Shadow Rider in tailwind, which is 112 so sort the evs for bolt to be this fast if you still want a fast bolt
  3. There is no need for rain dance on tornadus as it only benefits Ogerpon Wellspring and it doesn't need more damage output
  4. Triple electric STAB on Raging Bolt is not good, Thunderbolt and Thunderclap are all you need and Volt Switch isn't that good on it
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  1. Timid on Calyrex Shadow and Chi-Yu is best here as you don't need extra damage output and need more speed, Ogerpon wellspring should have jolly
dapper crag
#

Tysm bro

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anything else? like should I change anyone on the team?

autumn vault
#

I can see the team working out, its just a few issues that need to be patched up

autumn vault
#

Or maybe i got lucky

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
potent ravine
#

Anyone wanna Fight my Ass Team? It sucks

graceful flare
#

It's good tho

#

Is rock slide good on landorus

autumn vault
#

So far with Choice Specs Terapagos

sharp cobalt
graceful flare
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Terapagos is mid it needs to tera to become a restricted legendary

autumn vault
cyan smelt
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ignore afnan and his rubbish takes

autumn vault
#

I would be careful about saying that ngl

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I don't need to say why

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But yes you're right

cyan smelt
#

anyway moving on

autumn vault
#

Choice Specs terapagos is better than i expected ngl

cyan smelt
#

is it better than calm mind

autumn vault
#

Not sure

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I haven't played CM in a long time now

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Like its been longer than a month

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I kick ass when i try my best

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I love Grimmsnarl with T-Wave

cyan smelt
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bold to tera in front of terapagos

graceful flare
autumn vault
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I didn't tera infront of Urshifu because i would take a lot of damage

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and it was banded too

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And it helped me to tank they're Terapagos SE Starstorm

cyan smelt
#

i've noticed a couple of times you've tried to t-wave opposing dark types, remember that prankster fails on dark types

sharp cobalt
graceful flare
#

Or maybe that was just a one day thing tho

sharp cobalt
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Just a polite thing to do. And they've always been kind to me

tiny vapor
#

Kalos is awesome

autumn vault
#

Kalos is a homie

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Like Sylriam

sharp cobalt
#

Thanks Lycopoky HuggingMew

autumn vault
#

And i barely interacted with them but so is RockruffNRoll

tiny vapor
#

Yay, thanks lycopoky

violet smelt
#

is there no reg G info in pikalytics??

sharp cobalt
#

Not afaik

autumn vault
#

And also because Pikalytics is outdated

misty helm
#

does unseen fist ignore abilities too such as water absorb

autumn vault
#

It isn't Mold Breaker

misty helm
#

okay what about screens

autumn vault
#

Others have a 4.17% to crit

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Wicked Blow and Surging Strikes guarantee it

misty helm
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but if you have a pokemon with water absorb and you have screens active the damage reduction is possible with rapid strike

autumn vault
willow vault
#

Am I a homie, Lyco?

autumn vault
willow vault
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Let’s go

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I figure you would say no, to be funny

autumn vault
#

I can't say who isn't a homie but i think you know who

willow vault
#

Incineroar?

autumn vault
#

Incineroar is a homie

willow vault
#

Oh ok

autumn vault
#

But only in restricted formats

willow vault
sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

Human that isn't from pokemon or any video game

cyan smelt
#

incineroar gets better the higher the power level

autumn vault
#

'Nuff said

willow vault
sharp cobalt
autumn vault
graceful flare
#

Bro yoi can't be using bad language man

autumn vault
#

Or Stewpid idk

sharp cobalt
#

Asshat

graceful flare
#

That's it man u can't say that I'm reporting u

#

Apologise right noe

#

Now

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
#

lunala is underrated

forest arrow
#

Never used giving a shot soon

sharp cobalt
#

Ive that shiny one I wanna build around growlithe_think

forest arrow
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lol im in DA rn testing my luck

sharp cobalt
#

I got lucky, Ive Sword and joined a friend in DAs. I was the only one that got shiny kek

forest arrow
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Otot helped me get the Lunala path, bout time I used it lol

autumn vault
forest arrow
gentle cragBOT
forest arrow
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rotom i love you but go away lol

sharp cobalt
gentle cragBOT
cyan smelt
#

thinking bout running sandy shocks now

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to deal with chi-yu maybe

sharp cobalt
#

Shooketh has a niche?

cyan smelt
#

oooh sandy shocks might be good at dealing with miraidon too

sharp cobalt
timber falcon
autumn vault
#

I just got a bad idea: Groudon + Sandy Shocks

graceful flare
autumn vault
#

I need to see the viability of Offensive Gravity P-Blades

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With my 2 eyes

cyan smelt
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idk about two ground types though

autumn vault
#

You get electric coverage

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To beat the Water types

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And Sun heat crash to counter grass and ice types

cyan smelt
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sandy shocks, one of the only scarlet paradoxes not weak to fairy

autumn vault
#

Despite being a Paradox mon

sharp cobalt
#

Checks notes

cyan smelt
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if i run sandy shocks i'll probably have to sacrifice rotom

sharp cobalt
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Riptom

autumn vault
#

Get rid of Rotom is is trash (use it if you want to : ) )

willow vault
#

nice, very clean game

autumn vault
willow vault
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nice

cyan smelt
#

nice

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

See, i am good

sharp cobalt
#

I believe you

timber falcon
autumn vault
timber falcon
autumn vault
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My main is nearly 1600 elo

timber falcon
#

Gxe also matters.

willow vault
cyan smelt
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My alt is around 1500 but I haven't laddered in a couple of days, idk whether I should use sandy shocks or not because Zama does not like chi yu

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Or miraidon

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 989: Sandy Shocks
Types

Electric/Ground

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/81/97/121/85/101

Total

570

timber falcon
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Yeah can sandy shocks even OHKO chi-yu that has bulk investments?

cyan smelt
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Probably not and it needs to go booster speed

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But I'm thinking maybe for eweb support

dapper crag
#
Scream Tail's moveset:
Physical Moves

Bite, Body Slam, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Facade, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Fling, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Ice Fang, Ice Punch, Play Rough, Pound, Psychic Fangs, Rock Tomb, Stomping Tantrum, Take Down, Thunder Fang, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Boomburst, Dazzling Gleam, Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Misty Explosion, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Stored Power, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Water Pulse

Status Moves

Amnesia, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Disable, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Howl, Imprison, Light Screen, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Noble Roar, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Thunder Wave, Trick, Trick Room, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Scream Tail.

sharp cobalt
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Aw, no icy wind.

autumn vault
#

Gets encore and disable atleast

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And howl

tepid anvil
# dapper crag

im gonna be honest I didnt know scream tail learned gyro ball

sharp cobalt
#

It got the 'normal type' treatment

autumn vault
#

which is 1000-1300 elo

autumn vault
zealous badger
#

does burn affect zamazentas body press?

autumn vault
zealous badger
#

thx

autumn vault
#

Its a physical attack and since Burn affects physical attacks, it halves the damage of body press

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Sad? Yes, but for the better? Yes

sharp cobalt
#

Special Defense Body Press when sadvaporeon

autumn vault
sharp cobalt
south shuttle
sharp cobalt
#

Terrify

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When someone's terrified, their mind no work

autumn vault
#

Yeah we don't need it

sharp cobalt
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Trick room would be like: its free real estate businessapplin

sharp cobalt
#

Breaking Swipe and Snarl exist and arennt used that much

south shuttle
autumn vault
south shuttle
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like intrepid sword for everyone

#

that would be really balanced

autumn vault
#

They are so jealous of our grammar it is hilarious

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
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It makes sense

autumn vault
#

A better one would be: what we can do is say that we want it

sharp cobalt
#

Better, but both are still correct munch

autumn vault
#

Yes

sharp cobalt
#

So no need to mock grammar there, especially as English isn't even my first language

#

Most native speakers are much worse than me regardless

mighty stump
#

LA stream perhaps starting either earlier, or we’re just gonna miss rounds 8 and 9

upbeat quail
#

I just made it past 1600 on the showdown ladder for the first time 🙂 am I good now?

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First time I tried grinding it out with a team I am comfy with

mighty stump
#

Good job

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What's the GXE?

upbeat quail
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Where do I find that?

mighty stump
#

Click your username

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It'll open a new page showing your stats

upbeat quail
#

63.8%

#

Idk what that number means

mighty stump
#

Not bad, pretty ok

#

What it means is

#

It's your % likelihood of winning against a random opponent

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random opponent being the average player

graceful flare
#

Calyrex ice rider tera type

timber falcon
mighty stump
mighty stump
#

But 60-70 is in solid territory

#

Sub 60 means you have a lot to learn

upbeat quail
timber falcon
mighty stump
#

As high as you can as you maintain it lol

timber falcon
#

So then uh, when will I know a team is done?

mighty stump
#

I stop after my GXE dips

bold geode
# chrome knot

For all we know, they'll just push it like everyone made day 2 lol

chrome knot
#

how do i cope with only being good irl

mighty stump
bold geode
mighty stump
#

But you can look at a team objectively being done when you shuold have already accounted for all the relevant MUs

#

I don't really have anymore insight ladderwise

chrome knot
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like i cook irl but then my showdown elo is people drooling on their keyboard so idrk what to do

mighty stump
#

Its honesly individual

#

Like I said, it's just a snapshot

#

Its not the full picture

next stump
sharp cobalt
mighty stump
#

Which is why I prefer to just be consistent across the board

next stump
#

just grind locals for practice or online tournaments

chrome knot
#

so real ngl

#

i had legit 0 ladder games on the team i won my mss with

mighty stump
#

Yotam told me you can only get so good when playing for no stakes

#

So

chrome knot
#

hes a smart man

mighty stump
#

That's probably my own ceiling

bold geode
#

I had maybe 2-3 games on ladder with my last Zamazenta team lol

chrome knot
#

when i move in with my gf yotam will be a local player for me

mighty stump
#

Lol

chrome knot
mighty stump
#

Yotam got his invite too

chrome knot
#

yaay

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Also he said I was a good player when I was having a crisis so ig that proves that

bold geode
#

Tofu
Does Hawaii assist the elderly or

mighty stump
#

Idk, probably

bold geode
#

Ok, had to make sure so Yotam could get around

sharp cobalt
#

Oof PikaLmao

graceful flare
#

Incin be getting glazed or whenever I use it it gets put into the worst match ups ever

forest arrow
#

Skill Issue arkeknine

mighty stump
#

The Japanese are on some new tech

mighty stump
#

Like

#

Grimmsnarl/Incin + CM Kyogre

#

Then i've seen Double FO/Cress variant/Wo-Chien variant

#

Basically the East is running this team

graceful flare
#

Clear amulet?

chrome knot
#

calm mind…?

mighty stump
#

Oh it's also Lefties Kyogre

graceful flare
#

Why tera steel on drago when u can go dragon for more damage

bold geode
foggy lodge
next stump
#

RIP keanu out of day 2 contention as well

#

this chat scrubbed out of LA

timber falcon
bold geode
#

And knocked out of 1200s again
Love paralysis RNG

upbeat quail
#

Any way I can refine this team even more? I seem to struggle against Miraidon/electric terrain teams

willow vault
next stump
bold geode
bold geode
#

Cuz like
Even if you Tera to resist, if you can't deal with the terrain, it's still a rough MU

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Cuz then even with the resist, you're still taking Miraidon attacks at maximum output

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And ngl I think Rillaboom is sorta better for Zamazenta than Amoongus imo

#

Both work, but I think the monkey is slightly better

bold geode
cunning copper
#

To get ice caly I have to combine them in swsh before moving it through HOME?

#

Cuz now I have a standalone caly and 2 horses in SV poliwhirlkek

craggy dagger
willow vault
#

There isn’t, I though there was

lofty tartan
#

I got pinged here and apparently someone deleted it? 😐

willow vault
#

idk

bold geode
lofty tartan
#

Pretty sure I cleared all of those unless it was one later. I get random pings in this channel all the time at odd hours.

bold geode
#

Maybe idk

willow vault
#

I mean we all live in very different time zones so if you got pinged it was probably a normal time for whoever pinged you

cunning copper
#

I'm playing from Mars, my ping is 22 minutes

craggy dagger
bold geode
cunning copper
craggy dagger
#

yesss

#

there should be ones for the crystals for the creation trio, mirror for the genies, splicer for the tao trio, solarizer/lunaraizer for the light trio

cunning copper
#

Awesome thx @craggy dagger

gentle cragBOT
upbeat quail
bold geode
#

Miracle Seed/Meadow Plate

I also deadass am starting to wonder if Clear Amulet is an argument lmao

upbeat quail
#

I kinda like clear amulet Tera fire Rilla boom

#

I really want a taunt user too

bold geode
#

Rilla can run Taunt

upbeat quail
#

Oh yeah true

#

Man, Rilla has so many moves I wanna run on it. I’m debating if it’s worth dropping fake out for taunt

bold geode
#

Depends on how exactly you wanna do it
There was the one Choice Band set with no Fake Out, then again Choice Band Fake Out is dumb

crimson flume
#

I'm starting to wish I had zamazenta. lol.

#

Laughs in Pokemon Sword.

willow vault
bold geode
#

Yeah

willow vault
#

Makes sense

bold geode
crimson flume
#

Anyway, I love caly-S

#

Just need to play smart.

#

It's not always a straightforward fight sadly. lol.

crimson flume
bold geode
#

It's just Pedro

autumn vault
wicked moon
#

Guys do you think that there’s a way to make metagross relevant again

#

Or is it hopeless

#

There’s a meta in metagross for a reason

mighty stump
#

JUST IN TIME, Stream is about to start

bold geode
#

@molten oasis Zacian at 7.27% in Day 2

bold geode
#

It's gonna start with R11

#

HANDS BACK ON THE GRAPHIC

#

The monkey is also up there

#

I think Caly I is just more popular in NA

mighty stump
#

@bold geode Covert Cloak CM Calyrex on the board

bold geode
mighty stump
#

WHO COULDA THOUGHT

bold geode
#

WHY

mighty stump
#

HA HA HA

bold geode
#

GET IT OFF THE SCREEN NOW

#

Ah yes
Focus Band Urshifu

craggy dagger
bold geode
#

Tera and everything

mighty stump
#

I can't say "I told you so" any harder tbh

bold geode
#

I'm gone, I'm out of here
I'm rooting against this guy fuck you

mighty stump
#

Wow

bold geode
#

I don't need this going around Tofu lmao

#

Y'know what
Would this work with Kommo-O?

timber falcon
#

why covert cloak?

bold geode
timber falcon
#

dont clear am do the same

mighty stump
#

Covert Cloak is better lol

bold geode
#

Yeah, but you also don't flinch if they call the tera and Fake Out

autumn vault
#

But you still get affected by Parting Shot but thats manageable

#

Besides Incineroar would rather use Knock off

#

Than shot

craggy dagger
#

a -1 status is better than a 4x snarl

bold geode
mighty stump
#

You have no recovery so good luck

bold geode
#

Rillaboom?

mighty stump
#

Thats not enough

bold geode
#

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

autumn vault
#

6% every turn until the 5th one which is a total of 30%

#

5 Turns to achieve btw

timber falcon
craggy dagger
autumn vault
#

And CSR is pretty frail for restricted standards

mighty stump
#

No it isn't

mighty stump
#

That's just typing problems

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow
Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

craggy dagger
#

boosted 2/3 hp healing

bold geode
#

How much I need Snarl

timber falcon
#

It’s pretty bulky tbh

autumn vault
#

Generally it isn't frail

craggy dagger
#

which it can now shed thanks to tera

autumn vault
#

But i don't know many restricteds who have frailer defenses and Hp than CSR

#

100 is standard

#

80 isn't

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 150: Mewtwo
Type

Psychic

Abilities

Pressure, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/110/90/154/90/130

Total

680

Other Formes

Mewtwo-Mega-X, Mewtwo-Mega-Y

timber falcon
#

I’d it though? Idk about 100 being standard for defences

craggy dagger
#

whoa-
that’s bulkier than i thought PikaLmao

autumn vault
#

I also love how CSR is a strictly better Mewtwo

#

Even ability

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar
Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

autumn vault
#

CSR has better stats, offensive pressure, ability and doesn't need a huge movepool to be amazing

timber falcon
autumn vault
#

Typing is worse or better depending on how you look at it

#

But blocking Fake Out is very nice

autumn vault
bold geode
#

Tofu you do realize this guy has no healing other than Rilla and DKiss right?

mighty stump
bold geode
#

Thought you said that

mighty stump
#

?? You wanted to run Covert Cloak Kommo-o

#

What Kommo-o gets Draining Kiss

bold geode
#

No the Honse lmao

#

I said I was becoming the villain bro

mighty stump
#

Maybe separate your points clearer.

bold geode
#

Yeah if the Honse set works with Kommo-O

#

Context Tofu

mighty stump
#

Broi

#

You fuckwit

bold geode
#

Bro you know I'm trying that rn lmao

mighty stump
#

How do you directly mention Kommo-O into Covert Cloak and not expect anyone to think you wanted to use it for Kommo-o

bold geode
#

Do you really think I would run Cloak Kommo-O

mighty stump
#

Yes cause you say stupid shit

bold geode
#

I know better than that Tofu lmao

mighty stump
#

No you dont

bold geode
#

Yeah I do

mighty stump
#

Yet you can't even use context properly

#

The context of the current situation referring to Covert Cloak on CSR and you mention Kommo-O

timber falcon
#

Arguing like tom and Jerry PikaLmao

bold geode
#

We were talking about the horse already

mighty stump
#

I'm not going to refer to past conversations because thats not how that works

bold geode
#

Bruh

mighty stump
#

YOu didnt even mention CSR in a sentence

bold geode
#

This fuckin guy

mighty stump
#

Thats like asking "wheres my present" 4 days after your birthday and expect people to understand what you mean

bold geode
#

That's not at all lmao

mighty stump
#

Yes it fucking is

bold geode
#

Imma stop before Tofu reaches his hands thru the screen lol

mighty stump
#

Right, don't speak to me for like 3 days I am so done

bold geode
#

Actually Tofu what Kommo-O runs Calm Mind lmao

#

God that argument was so dumb lol

mighty stump
#

You're gonna have to re-add me because I am about to block you

bold geode
#

Bruh it ain't that serious

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Idk figure it out#

#

I'm busy doing other things

bold geode
#

Probably some I guess

timber falcon
bold geode
#

Hell you showed me calcs earlier why tf am I asking lol

timber falcon
mighty stump
#

Use your brain

timber falcon
#

I just realised

mighty stump
#

Why do you think

dapper crag
#
Item: Focus Band

Holder has a 10% chance to survive an attack that would KO it with 1 HP.

mighty stump
#

Its a typo you moron