competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

1 more minute

[bold geode]

Wait it up?

[solid frigate]

well its countdowning

[bold geode]

Ah

R1 still no start lmao

[solid frigate]

f

3 more fucking minutes

Wait do you guys wanna stream it in VC or what

[bold geode]

I'm at work rn
Wish I wasn't

[solid frigate]

I'm streaming in Union circle lol

[gentle badger]

I honestly think the Pokemon models are the best looking things in the game.

[mighty stump]

@bold geode Sleep Powder lost me yet another game

I've missed 3/6 Sleep Powders this entire tour

Or 3/5

[autumn vault]

Sleep Powder's 75% accuracy cathcing up to you now

[mighty stump]

It’s not 75% accurate apparently

The risk/reward is basically I have a 75% chance to outright win the game

I would have won every single game and set had it hit

[autumn vault]

Unfortunate

When i do play a limitless tour myself, eventually i will have to be wary about sleep powder's accuracy

[mighty stump]

It's a good team, and arguably almost every matchup to me is winnable

There is no auto lose matchup

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 792: Lunala

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Shadow Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

137/113/89/137/107/97

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

120kg (100 BP)

Height

4m

Introduced

Generation 7

Pre-evolution

Cosmoem

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Purple

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 800: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Prism Armor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/113/109/157/127/77

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

350kg (120 BP)

Height

4.2m

Introduced

Generation 7

Base Species

Necrozma

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

STARTING nOW

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/0dd011581c671ac7 Idk what i cooked up with Dialga-O, what are some noticeable issues? I can explain every set i have on the mons

Oh wait i forgot to make Ursaluna 0 speed ivs

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2130384800
Sleep Powder can easily win games

On the grind to 1600 elo

[solid frigate]

the Big 4

[autumn vault]

Zamazenta killing it as usual in Reg G

[autumn vault]

Opinions?

[timber falcon]

New regional?

[solid frigate]

YEah

[foggy lodge]

Los Angeles

[autumn vault]

And Zama is killing it as usual

And also Miraidon and Terapagos

[timber falcon]

But it dropped from the last 2

Miraidon top usage huh

[autumn vault]

The power of a nuke

[forest arrow]

Round 1 is finally about to start

[autumn vault]

But i still play Zekrom because why not

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-broccoli-nuke-gachibrocc-gachi-gif-21547004

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I’ll be making a kyogre team then Ho-Oh later

What do they look like, the teams

[autumn vault]

+1 108 Atk Teravolt Zekrom Helping Hand Power Spot Bolt Strike vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew in Electric Terrain: 426-502 (243.4 - 286.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Helping Hand Power Spot Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew in Electric Terrain: 445-525 (254.2 - 300%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yup you are not wrong

Zekrom needs +2 to nuke harder than Miraidon itself, atleast my set does

[timber falcon]

Looks like I might run AV kyogre lol

Or is that dumb dumb idea

[autumn vault]

Dumb Dumb Dumb idea

140 SpD carries alone

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 382: Kyogre

Type

Water

Abilities

Drizzle

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/90/150/140/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Kyogre-Primal

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

Oh wow

Then ill go for some lefties

[autumn vault]

Doesn't need AV and doesn't need any SpD investment, only on defense

[foggy lodge]

wtf a Gothitelle

Great quote

[timber falcon]

so like groudon but opposite

[solid frigate]

i am so confused

[autumn vault]

Yes

[timber falcon]

lol my team sheet is small compared to u guys

[solid frigate]

lol

[autumn vault]

Very small compared to me

[solid frigate]

omg that Terapagos Team Throw So badly

[bold geode]

Bruh

https://x.com/Dollarmonke13/status/1789772939350425732?t=pZu5poHGaJITiahwedlORQ&s=33

Dollarmonke (@Dollarmonke13) on X

@WolfeyGlick If it was for wolves, you'd run Zamazenta in a tournament

Twitter · May 12, 2024, 9:41 PM

He did it lmao

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey is at LA?

[bold geode]

No, online tour rn
He's running the Zamazenta

[foggy lodge]

Oh

[willow vault]

Volcarona abuse to Trick Room lmao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2130392780

[foggy lodge]

That iron hands deals so much damage wtf

[solid frigate]

and that Terapagos Throw in G1

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Or i'm just really accostumed to Iron hands being at -1 all the time because of intimidate lmao

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 992: Iron Hands

Types

Fighting/Electric

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

154/140/108/50/68/50

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[foggy lodge]

Yeah makes sense

[willow vault]

Granted their team was awful

[long narwhal]

What eva should i pu on kyogre

Evs

[autumn vault]

252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def or HP

Also Modest timid depending on the item

[autumn vault]

·

[long narwhal]

Ty

Heavy boots is the item

[autumn vault]

Is it Uber?

[long narwhal]

Yes

[bold geode]

https://x.com/MoxieBoosted/status/1794438801248473465?t=qDS6Po1BsP_DJEjBYQlylA&s=33
So stupid

Marcos Perez ➡️ NAIC (@MoxieBoosted) on X

I PUT 800 POKEMON PLAYERS IN A CONVENTION CENTER WITH NO INTERNET!

Twitter · May 25, 2024, 6:42 PM

[autumn vault]

WTF is that thumbnail?

[foggy lodge]

LMAO

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[autumn vault]

Don't bring Mr Beast into it

[bold geode]

Any word on if it's still 9 rounds?

[foggy lodge]

What would happen is Mr Beast became a competitive player

[autumn vault]

iirc he did play showdown around gen 5 so he was one

But thats in the past, and quite far into it

[solid frigate]

he actually has a team

[timber falcon]

i think ive found a rather odd use for hydrapple

[foggy lodge]

Offf

[autumn vault]

?

[timber falcon]

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Pump
• Origin Pulse
• Protect
• Ice Beam

this is what i wanna run

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-suprised-bruh-what-littlebigplanet-gif-18119100423231820417

[timber falcon]

yes i dont believe spout is the way for me to go

[autumn vault]

I need pokerogue to make me forget that

[foggy lodge]

No CM?

[timber falcon]

why cm?

[autumn vault]

Water Spout is Kyogre's day, Water Spout is Kyogre's life

Don't remove it

[timber falcon]

id argue agaisnt that, usage wise it is high, but its not even the highest

surprisignly not even 90% use it

[autumn vault]

Its still 86% usage

Which is very high

Those Kyogre's want to lose or have fun, but do not succeed competitively

If you want to run that set go ahead but i don't think the win-lose ratio will be fair

[bold geode]

No you don't lol

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-care-gif-17130412455872949240

[timber falcon]

its cause im not tryna build a fast acting kyogre that relies on spread moves

[autumn vault]

Good luck relying on Origin Miss for spread water move

[timber falcon]

rather i believe in a consistent 110 bp water move

[timber falcon]

this is what i was tryna say

hydrapple gets a certain ability.......

[autumn vault]

Supersweet Syrup?

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

thought maybe i wont run lefties

[solid frigate]

i wanna flipping die-

[willow vault]

I can make the turtle soup lets gooooo

can't believe how that set ended

[timber falcon]

i honestly dont think its a bad idea

it might be a bit niche but the concept is simple enough

[solid frigate]

my god

Nick Just throwing-

[willow vault]

Then your just trying to be different, it’s not a great idea

[timber falcon]

:/

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 986: Brute Bonnet

Types

Grass/Dark

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

111/127/99/79/99/55

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

a while ago i was told smth about hydro pump being good on kyogre though

[willow vault]

Yeah because then you have stab water move that isn’t blocked by wide guard

[timber falcon]

and ive considered the idea myself

[willow vault]

But origin pulse is not the move you want as your relied upon move

[timber falcon]

how come

[willow vault]

Accuracy

It’s significantly weaker then water spout at max hp, that can be kept at max hp with sensible teams with good speed control and priority denial

[mighty stump]

Well

[willow vault]

Well

[solid frigate]

Well

[timber falcon]

Well

[mighty stump]

The Spread to accuracy trade-off is basically Bleakwind

[timber falcon]

wym?

oh ok

[mighty stump]

If you can click Bleakwind you can click Origin Pulse

[willow vault]

Would you rather original pulse or water spout?

[timber falcon]

depends on the situation

[willow vault]

Tornadus doesn’t have a spread flying type move the equivalent to compare to water spout

[mighty stump]

You never run Water Spout solo anyways

[willow vault]

I wasn’t suggesting that

[mighty stump]

And if you need only one Water STAB you're running Origin Pulse

[timber falcon]

so would it be better for hydro pump + spout or smth

[mighty stump]

Depends

How confident are you against Wide Guard

Because imo it's not even an issue

[willow vault]

Just strictly that I don’t think you should rely upon origin pulse as the water spread move choice, you can run it with water spout but I don’t think it should be ran without it

[timber falcon]

maybe cause wide guard usage has fallen off since early reg G?

[willow vault]

What sets run one water stab move? I don’t know just curious.

[mighty stump]

No, because these are non-theoretical considerations: You play around it

[mighty stump]

CM

[willow vault]

Oh fair enough I don’t run cm

[timber falcon]

maybe ill try scarf kyogre

if wide guard isnt gonna hurt that much

[willow vault]

Why not just run torn then for speed control + flying stab to hit grass types?

[mighty stump]

Just play lol

[timber falcon]

torn already there

[mighty stump]

Make the change after playing

[willow vault]

You can have the same speed but significantly more power or bulk with something like av or choice specs

[timber falcon]

im gonna need at least 4 decided mons till i can do this

i might go hurricane torn tbh

[polar canyon]

What physical hits should I worry about koraidon taking?

Koraidon
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 92 HP / 108 SpD / 140 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Collision Course
• Flare Blitz
• Protect
• Breaking Swipe
  I found this spread to be cool

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

u dont really wanna eat that

Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Origin Pulse
• Water Spout
• Ice Beam
• Hydro Pump

[polar canyon]

Actually

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 92 HP / 252 Def Koraidon: 146-174 (78 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[timber falcon]

what about this? still deciding if specs or scarf

[timber falcon]

is this optimised?

run max hp and go from there, might save some evs

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Koraidon: 168-200 (81.1 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO lol

[smoky hawk]

Is iron hands rising?

[timber falcon]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Icicle Crash vs. 204 HP / 0 Def Koraidon: 168-200 (83.5 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

this is the lowest u can go

[mighty stump]

Bulk without threat is just a punching bag

[timber falcon]

btw @polar canyon does ur koraidon have no attack investments?

[foggy lodge]

I think

It's good, just always outclassed by Inci imo

[timber falcon]

iron hands is 4.94% in usage

[mighty stump]

Everyones finally catching on to Hands with Miraidon

[bold geode]

Preach

[foggy lodge]

Maybe in Miraidon teams is good but i still think Inci is better

[mighty stump]

Incin doesn't beat Terapagos

or Miraidon

[solid frigate]

Earth Power : )

[timber falcon]

oh yeah hands can also cc pagos

[mighty stump]

DP

Well, I run DP cause I'm running AV so I can 1v1 Miraidon

[timber falcon]

btw is there even a point in calcing kyogre to live rillas wood hammer?

[solid frigate]

236+ SpA Terapagos-Terastal Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 100 SpD Incineroar: 94-112 (46.5 - 55.4%) -- 70.7% chance to 2HKO

[timber falcon]

i dont really think so

[foggy lodge]

Guys what do you think about Porygon2 rn?

[solid frigate]

Eviolite TR

[foggy lodge]

Because i haven't seen it rn

[mighty stump]

Kinda meh

[timber falcon]

havent even seen it this reg so idk

[foggy lodge]

Outclassed?

[mighty stump]

Just meh

Doesnt do anything to 3 of the big 4

[solid frigate]

dies to Zama

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 233: Porygon2

Type

Normal

Abilities

Trace, Download, Analytic (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/80/90/105/95/60

Total

515

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[foggy lodge]

I was curious if it would be better over Farigiraf

[solid frigate]

Dawn Wings:Where tf am i

[foggy lodge]

What is that bracket about lol

Dissapointing restricteds?

[solid frigate]

underrated restricted

[autumn vault]

Don't forget Zekrom Kyurem-B Dusk Mane Solgaleo etc.

Dialga, Palkia

Eternatus

[solid frigate]

Lugia is here

[autumn vault]

Idk more

[foggy lodge]

Eternatus is better than i expected

I thing it could have a niche

[autumn vault]

Which set? The evil one or the pure one?

[foggy lodge]

Good typing against Zamazenta

[foggy lodge]

Power Herb

[autumn vault]

Evil = Stall Pure = Meteor Beam

[solid frigate]

wouldn't that be funny that Eternatus can't Tera cuz of the lore

[timber falcon]

already does

[autumn vault]

Good

Its hard to face the truth

But Kyurem-B is identical to Bax

And Zekrom is atleast a hybrid between the other electric dragons

[timber falcon]

false

[autumn vault]

Kyurem-B is identical to Bax but with better stats, burnable, no priority or reliable ice stab without loaded dice, etc.

[timber falcon]

also no idea why kyogre is on that list

[autumn vault]

The new counters might make some noobs vote it

Which is why i added it to the list

[timber falcon]

id say it cant be kyogre or groudon

[autumn vault]

You won't vote Lugia because of your bias for it

So its either the coolest Dragon or where ice stab dragon

[timber falcon]

not really

lugia has actually been seen at a regional for one

idk about zekrom and Kblack

[autumn vault]

I think i should have added Reshiram because of Gouging but those 2 are completely different outside of typing

[mighty stump]

. . .

[autumn vault]

Then why play when you know you will be tired?

[timber falcon]

bruh

[autumn vault]

A free win is a free one

Don't complain

[mighty stump]

I will complain it's not about the win lol

I want to play the game

Anyways at least we recovered from the poor RNG to be positive 4-3

[autumn vault]

Fair point

[timber falcon]

any thoughts on goggles archaludon?

[solid frigate]

why when Tera Grass work

[autumn vault]

Stupid idea, run AV or Power Herb

[timber falcon]

bruh

what will i use for moongus then?

and caly-ice

[timber falcon]

its for both moongus and caly

[solid frigate]

fair point...

[timber falcon]

maybe not though, not 100% set

[autumn vault]

A spore immunity is always good but it has crippling SpD and fixing that is always nice and Power Herb still gives you a +1 SpA which is better than a spore/powder immunity

[little nebula]

Question, What should i build my lurantis? I found a random shiny fomantis with the adamant nature and i dunno if i should build him as a Pa, or a SpA.

[timber falcon]

which mon does bolt hate to see?

[solid frigate]

Whimsicott Flutter Mane Obviously

[autumn vault]

leaf storm and contrary exist on Lurantis so go SpA

[autumn vault]

Ground Types

[little nebula]

my original plan was to do a Power herb Solar blade Lurantis-

[sharp cobalt]

So does Superpower. Both work tbh

[autumn vault]

Does it have Superpower in gen 9?

[sharp cobalt]

Yes.

[autumn vault]

I don't think so (oh right)

[solid frigate]

nah just go Leaf Storm Contrary with Stellar Tera Blast or Tera Fire Tera Blast

[little nebula]

it can learn it through tm

[sharp cobalt]

https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sv/lurantis/
Check egg moves

[timber falcon]

i have an idea then

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2130430992-nxtmzhgqsduly3hxq22pblj1dv3iox5pw I question everything about the opponent

[sharp cobalt]

You can run it either way, but wouldnt physical be better because of far better coverage with Superpower and Knock Off alone?

[autumn vault]

Fair

But you get more fire power with Leaf Storm

[little nebula]

Would i have to fix its speed? right now it has a speed stat of 93, so do i have to build its attack and speed?

[sharp cobalt]

Lurantis has mediocre speed

[sharp cobalt]

But 0 coverage

You get tera blast and bug moves

[little nebula]

not wrong there, rn my set up is swords dance, nightslash, solar blade and X-scissor-

thought before i set the moveset in stone, i would get some advice

[timber falcon]

is this lurantis?

[solid frigate]

thats why you have teammates

[little nebula]

yes

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 754: Lurantis

Type

Grass

Abilities

Leaf Guard, Contrary (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/105/90/80/90/45

Total

480

Other Formes

Lurantis-Totem

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[sharp cobalt]

Its for indigo disk lol

[timber falcon]

why are u running leaf guard instead of contrary

[little nebula]

i just caught this guy, i haven't started building him yet

[solid frigate]

Lurantis @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Contrary
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 140 HP / 84 Def / 180 SpA / 92 SpD / 12 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

• Leaf Storm
• Tera Blast
• Protect
• Weather Ball

just built it

Lurantis @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Contrary
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 140 HP / 84 Def / 180 SpA / 92 SpD / 12 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

• Leaf Storm
• Tera Blast
• Protect
• Weather Ball

or this if you like Stellar Tera Contrary

[sharp cobalt]

Still think phys would be better

And I dont recommend lv50

[little nebula]

I probably will do physical, because i already have enough special attackers in my team

[solid frigate]

Its VGC-

[sharp cobalt]

No, its for Indigo Disk

[little nebula]

I'm using mine for indigo disk

[sharp cobalt]

I directed them here, so I think I know what they're using it for

[solid frigate]

then scale it to level 100

also isn't Indigo Disk VGC Based-

[sharp cobalt]

Its also quite easy. I cant bring a K-Tauros with AV and intimidate to actual VGC, but for ID? Puts in work

[solid frigate]

quite easy-

ok let you decide

[sharp cobalt]

I mean, I experienced it as such. I did come in with a half-decent team, but it would be laughed at in VGC

[chrome knot]

it’s for story in which you just 252/252 choice band stellar blast…

dont be silly lmao

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/ec560176d83ddfe3 What looks better on the team, Sash Tornadus with sunny day or Gholdengo?

I don't like Hatterene because it destroys my team

And calyrex ice in TR sweeps me easily

[sharp cobalt]

If I knew I'd tell you

If Calyrex gives you issues probs Gholdengo?

Tornadus doesnt do anything to it, right

[autumn vault]

Shadow isn't the problem

[idle elm]

Hey

[autumn vault]

Hey

[idle elm]

Anybody have pokemon shield?

[autumn vault]

I do but i can't do anything with it rn

[idle elm]

I need Pokémon

Legendarys i have only 1 😩

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/cfd622894be4ad10 I have updated paste with new names for the pokemon, names from Fire emblem except flutter mane because i still have beef with it

[sharp cobalt]

What has Mane ever done to you

[autumn vault]

In reg B and C? Pain, just pain

D and E flutter mane were still super annoying

F and G flutter manes are easy to kill

[sharp cobalt]

What about F and G

[autumn vault]

Already said it

[idle elm]

I need palkia

Or darkrai

[solid frigate]

#trading_sv

[autumn vault]

What looks better on this team, Incineroar or Gholdengo?

[bold geode]

Man that blows some

[willow vault]

I’d say Incineroar, gholdengo doesn’t like sun very much and incin would provide you with fake out + intimidate

Also then doesn’t double up on ghost type

[autumn vault]

I don't really like TR Calyrex Ice or hatterene, flutter struggles in tr and nothing can really answer tr hatt or Calyrex ice, Ghldengo walls both of Hatt's STABs and Glacial Lance while also doing great against Zamazenta and not dying immediately to a body press

I can remove Torn for Incineroar

To get a 3x Ice weakness and still have good checks into it

[willow vault]

I mean that makes sense

[autumn vault]

Plus i don't mind doubling up on types, Flutter and Ghold only share 1 weakness

[mighty stump]

Im actually fucking tweaking I missed Sleep Powder twice in a row

[autumn vault]

So its fine

[willow vault]

Yikes

[bold geode]

Bro fuckin tweakin

[autumn vault]

oof

Now thats what i call: Unlucky (eventually it will happen to me, i can't deny it)

[bold geode]

How do you continuously get hit with this bruh

[mighty stump]

How the fuck am I supposed to know

[bold geode]

You've been having bad RNG since Reg C bruh

[sharp cobalt]

Monke

[bold geode]

First the Ting Lu Sand Tombs
Then the Heatran Magma Storm

Now there's Sleep Powders

[bold geode]

Hello

[mighty stump]

I missed Heat Wave

[sharp cobalt]

It happens

[mighty stump]

Thank you for your genius level insight I could not have known

[bold geode]

Lmao

[autumn vault]

The first issue was using magma storm in the first place

[mighty stump]

The first issue is talking about things you don't know enough about

[autumn vault]

I play a lot of Koraidon Venusaur and the misses are annoying but the sleep is great, i never played magma storm which is true but it's the same accuracy as sleep powder

But yeah i never played magma storm

[mighty stump]

Good for you, you don't even know why I ran Magma Storm

[sharp cobalt]

Anytime, Im here whenever you need sarcastic or dry remarks!

[willow vault]

Which mon had magma storm for you?

[mighty stump]

If only you were entertaining enough for people to want you to do that

[sharp cobalt]

I might not be for you, but I am for others and myself, and thats all that matters

[autumn vault]

I will admit that you are always a great person to encounter, thats what i will admit

[bold geode]

Heatran
Honestly the trapping was valid, just wish it wasn't 75% accurate

[willow vault]

Makes sense

[autumn vault]

Magma Storm deserves a buff

[sharp cobalt]

Why thank you, I like having you around as well

[autumn vault]

Magma Storm is power crept

[bold geode]

Like if it wasn't that low I would've used it, but for me it was honestly like 50%

[sharp cobalt]

Thats the meme logic. 'Its not 100%? Its 50%!'

[autumn vault]

For me sleep powder is like bolt strike, it hardly ever misses even when it should

But it occasionaly does miss

[bold geode]

I would literally hit one miss one
Hit one miss one

[willow vault]

I’ve ran magma storm Heatran with dondozo, I do think I hit maybe like 50% of magma storms, but the residual damage was really nice as I could run more bulk and less damage due to it

[sharp cobalt]

I used to run Rock Slide on my mono grass team cuz I feared missing Stone Edge, but someone told me I'd miss out on valuable kills.

[willow vault]

I have the opposite luck

[autumn vault]

Too bad

[bold geode]

Man, it's almost 4 pm here where I'm at and LA hasn't even gone to R3
That delay was bad

[autumn vault]

Now i will test my renovated Koraidon team

[sharp cobalt]

Go get em, fierce animal (I dont wanna say tiger)!

[autumn vault]

Terapagos team

I pray i land my sleep powders that matter

What just happened?

[sharp cobalt]

I would die for Claude. Also, bad ally switch? Dunno

[willow vault]

In what world do you switch in Pelipper here https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2130453465

[autumn vault]

I got them Leicester boys against a terapagos

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2130453960-y3dq28wfsl4s5p9npbbmn5n41afbcyvpw I missed a valuable sleep powder, still barely won

Screw Tornadus, embrace Gholdengo

[sharp cobalt]

[solid frigate]

[warped mason]

Any spicy picks rn day 1?

For los Angeles

[solid frigate]

Gothitelle Terapagos

[warped mason]

Weather duo still got it

[warped mason]

Not my kinda spice tbh

[autumn vault]

Nerf Miraidon and buff Zekrom = Me happy

Redone the Koraidon notes

I will build the team in game and do a bunch of BBQs

GN people

[warped mason]

I just like how the gen 3 legends stood the test of time

[autumn vault]

And ray got better

Without the need of it's mega

[warped mason]

Is ray in los angeles rn?

[autumn vault]

Think so Akhil

[solid frigate]

Andrew Zheng vs Giovanni Costa

[warped mason]

Woah alot of spicy stuff

Is the ho-oh still in?

And lugia?

[solid frigate]

its gonna be Terapagos again right-

@timber falcon LUNALA ALERT

[autumn vault]

Today i (didn't) gained a new power today:

[timber falcon]

i have been summoned?

[solid frigate]

ANDREW ZHENG USED LUNALA ON STREAM

[autumn vault]

Atleats he isn't using the mediocre terapagos set like he did in Indianopolis

[solid frigate]

the bat has unleashed

[solid frigate]

you do realise he is 2nd-

[autumn vault]

If Zekrom gets used at all: @ me

[timber falcon]

wym

[autumn vault]

Still think it isn't better than CM and PHWB

PWHB Power Herb Meteor Beam

[solid frigate]

Lunala is used in Los Angles Regionals Stream

[solid frigate]

Specs>CM>PHMB

i just use CM for my personal preference

[autumn vault]

I have to test Specs if you think its the best item

[solid frigate]

its the best rn

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2130472445 This was quite fun actually

[solid frigate]

Miraidon Gyarados?

[autumn vault]

Well good night people

[solid frigate]

Dude Andrew Zheng dissing Terapagos-

Blame yourself not him.

this is just disrespectful

[chrome knot]

LMAOO

[solid frigate]

i actually want Miraidon to win now

[chrome knot]

valid after he got 2nd with it

[solid frigate]

its not about the Pokemon,its about their Piloting

[autumn vault]

Blame yourself for not protecting the Amoonguss not Pagos

[chrome knot]

you arent saying that

of all people

[autumn vault]

Even Tofu says that he should have protected Amoonguss in game 3 to win

[solid frigate]

i'm using Terapagos and i am LIVID

[chrome knot]

on GOD i dont care🔥

[autumn vault]

My 3rd favourite is Terapagos and i am still a bit annoyed

[autumn vault]

Also you screnshotted him when he blinked, perfect

[solid frigate]

time to hope Miraidon wins or i don't watch this match-

[charred saddle]

eric rios siapa?

and wheres rental

btw eve concert today

[solid frigate]

why do i want to go to New Orleans To join the regionals-

[sharp cobalt]

Do it

[mighty stump]

Org spanish

Gk tau, dari tweetnya aja gw kliatan

tapi yng gw tau tuh disini orgnya bgst smph

[charred saddle]

[gentle badger]

btw @solid frigate, is it okay for my Venusaur to be in the lead for the double sun team?

[solid frigate]

depends on it,but mostly yes

internet error LOL

[tawdry urchin]

How do I do min speed in game?

[gentle badger]

k that's good

[solid frigate]

IVs to 0-1

[tawdry urchin]

?

[solid frigate]

the IVs are individual Value where it's also important

0-1 is Min Speed for IVs

[tawdry urchin]

Yeah this makes no sence

[solid frigate]

nothing Make sense

[tawdry urchin]

like your just saying it expecting me to instantly know how to do it

[solid frigate]

I'm just saying it what it it does

[tawdry urchin]

Ok but still idk how to make my clefairy's speed at min

[solid frigate]

what is it rn

[tawdry urchin]

33 level 63

( It's cleffa rn )

[solid frigate]

i mean the IVs,is it No good?

in SV

[tawdry urchin]

it says its pretty good...

[solid frigate]

you can't change IVs down,only raise IVs

[tawdry urchin]

fuck

[solid frigate]

you need to find one that is Min Speed

[tawdry urchin]

so I need to find one that says no good?

[solid frigate]

mhm

[tawdry urchin]

welp that means I just wated a whole 2 herben mystica and 30 mins of my time...

[solid frigate]

thats why getting it in shiny Form just sucks

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but idk why but using shinys indead of normal just feels different

[solid frigate]

it just cosmetics,if i saw a Pokemon with special IV Values i would not go for a shiny

thats why My Archaludon is shiny cuz the IVs does not have a special condition

[tawdry urchin]

well I allready have 3/4 of the shinys soooooooooo

and plus if the ivs are trash I can iv train them

[lofty tartan]

I run shinies because I was a shiny hunter for many years before I decided to take the plunge into competitive.

It's just a preference. It's nothing special though.

Running exclusively shinies does make people more inclined to think I've obtained my pokes illegitimately

But shiny hunting is the easiest it's ever been now.

[tawdry urchin]

yeah thats whay I'm running them but now I gotta re do cleffa/ clefairy

[lofty tartan]

Just catch more

[tawdry urchin]

?

[lofty tartan]

I have five Kingambits because I don't like to redo sets.

[tawdry urchin]

and are they shiny?

[lofty tartan]

Every pokemon in my vgc boxes are shiny. Including every duplicate.

Unless shiny-locked.

The real rarity are marks.

[tawdry urchin]

Catching more than 1 shiny with 1 sandwich is near impossible for me

[lofty tartan]

What?

[tawdry urchin]

yet even getting 1 is hard

[lofty tartan]

I always overfish outbreaks.

I have six Incineroars. One is Unsure Mark.

[tawdry urchin]

ok but i'm not doing outbreaks

[lofty tartan]

Do outbreaks.

[tawdry urchin]

waste of time killing them

[lofty tartan]

What?

Lol.

[solid frigate]

pfft

[lofty tartan]

Yes, it's a waste of time to KO 60 of them for shiny rate boosts xD

(that was 100% sarcasm)

[tawdry urchin]

I would rather sanwich boost plus I want my vcg shinys to been caught on the same day

[lofty tartan]

You can stack outbreak boosts and sandwich boosts.

That's the whole point.

[tawdry urchin]

"I want my vcg shinys to been caught on the same day"

[lofty tartan]

Having arbitrary preferences on "when was my pokemon caught" is just adding layers for no reason.

If you want to keep coming up empty and being upset about wasting 30 minutes and two herbas, hey, by all means, don't touch outbreaks. You do you.

[tawdry urchin]

I said I wasted 30 mins and two herb because I didn't get the right ivs 💀

[lofty tartan]

🙄

You want correct IVs from base, you breed.

[tawdry urchin]

EW

[gentle badger]

I don't really bother with shiny pokemon.

[lofty tartan]

That's the break of things, man.

[graceful flare]

I only use shinies in vgc but if I want specific iv I don't think I wouldn't shiny hunt for them

[lofty tartan]

You want specific IVs, you breed. You don't wild hunt them

The variance on wild-caught is extreme.

[gentle badger]

what I really wish I got was a Jumbo mark Venusaur

[tawdry urchin]

1. shiny hunting eggs is just stupid and gets boring after like 5 mins 2. I only care about the speed being "No good"

[lofty tartan]

Again, you breed for 0 IV pokes that aren't legendary and non-breedable.

But hey, you do you

[graceful flare]

Yeah I bred for my calyrex

And glastrier

[lofty tartan]

And that's where I take my exit

[tawdry urchin]

You can't breed for a calyrex...

[graceful flare]

I also iv trained for my ride koraidon that I have actually never used in battle

[graceful flare]

Bred*

[tawdry urchin]

You can't bread legndarys....

[graceful flare]

Anything is possible

If u put ur mind to it

[lofty tartan]

It's bait.

Don't eat bait.

[graceful flare]

Wha

[graceful flare]

Fish eat bait and it never ends well for them

[tawdry urchin]

Ik

[graceful flare]

Are u saying im troling

[tawdry urchin]

yes 💀

[graceful flare]

Bro have u ever heard of a joke

[lofty tartan]

Jokes are supposed to be funny.

[tawdry urchin]

[forest arrow]

Watching Lunala beat Mirai was pretty cool

[graceful flare]

Why lunala when csr

[lofty tartan]

I've wanted to play a Lunala team. Just can't decide on what variant.

[solid frigate]

you do realised that this might risk you being reported for that

[solid frigate]

i hate how Zheng just have the Terapagos is mid Shirt

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horrors-beyond-our-comprehension-low-tier-god-mods-banned-gif-8530537273735940092

[lofty tartan]

I'd drop it.

[forest arrow]

Agreed, I kind of liked the screens variant we just saw

[lofty tartan]

Screens Lunala seems good.

[graceful flare]

Fair

[lofty tartan]

My first Reg G match, I got bodied by Lunala. 😐

[tawdry urchin]

did everyone forget dusk wings exists 💀

[graceful flare]

Help with team

[lofty tartan]

Dusk Wing and Lunala have different abilities.

[graceful flare]

Love dusk wings

[solid frigate]

I am still salty on that Terapagos Slander

[lofty tartan]

Shadow Shield is pretty insane.

[tawdry urchin]

ah

[forest arrow]

Lunala def has the better ability here

[graceful flare]

Dusk wing💀

[tawdry urchin]

*Dawn wings

[lofty tartan]

Shadow Shield > Prism Armor

[forest arrow]

Agreed I may try screens

[graceful flare]

Help with team

[bold geode]

How's LA going

[forest arrow]

Zheng inspired me

[lofty tartan]

Drop a paste in my office and we'll work on it.

[tawdry urchin]

Thats the 3rd times you have posted that 💀

[solid frigate]

i am livid on that sweat shirt

[forest arrow]

bet

[bold geode]

What sweatshirt

[graceful flare]

Pls tell me wha us next

[lofty tartan]

I want that Terapagos sweatshirt.

[forest arrow]

I’m not any help, I’m not a fan of CSR and will never touch it sorry

[solid frigate]

i am so damn Livid

[lofty tartan]

White isn't usually my color but I'd rock this

[forest arrow]

Thank you I needed his OTS

[bold geode]

What in the fuck

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-cobra-hehe-gif-18223785

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-trigger-triggered-gif-12729162

[tawdry urchin]

Terra ghost urshifu 💀

[bold geode]

That's hilarious

[lofty tartan]

Isn't it, Monke? Let's get some.

[solid frigate]

it works

[lofty tartan]

We'll post pictures.

[solid frigate]

dude i ain't let that slide

[tawdry urchin]

water is better in my opinion, 1 shots CSR with signature move

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna tape that drawing of terapagos to my hoodie and post a photo of it here.

[bold geode]

What
The sweat shirts? I'd fuck with it

[lofty tartan]

Me too

[solid frigate]

dude. i rather just CHi Yu it

[graceful flare]

I dislike chi u

[solid frigate]

too bad so sad

[bold geode]

Lmao
Tape a Christmas tree to my wall in December
Bitches are expensive

[graceful flare]

I forgor to tera and died to snarl from it

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but people run focus sash so

[lofty tartan]

Chi-Yu has been so good in Reg G ❤️

[graceful flare]

I was using csr

[lofty tartan]

Ride the Scarf Chi-Yu wave

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-rapid-strike-surging-strike-pokemon-tower-of-waters-gif-23032736

[solid frigate]

i can't cuz i give it to Urshifu-

[graceful flare]

Choice items are so overrated man like it's just so hard to use

[upbeat quail]

Man right after Rajan Bal won Indy I started running Tera ground Chi Yu on all of my teams… now I swear everyone is running it in LA

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/team-rocket-hidden-power-amoonguss-gif-14742774302475196641

[lofty tartan]

You're talking to me about SE moves in a vacuum in a format where you can drop weakness by clicking a button. Next.

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gif-24664106

[upbeat quail]

I should I get into a teambuilding group. If only I wasn’t ass

[lofty tartan]

People acting like I'm just gonna run out Chi-Yu into WaterUrsh and not do something about it and just click buttons 🙄

[graceful flare]

Don't say that

[bold geode]

But WHY NOT

[lofty tartan]

Because I have at least two brain cells to smash together.

[solid frigate]

i just feel like both of you tunnel visioning Calyrex Shadow is the best Restricted and did not know there are teams who deal with it

[upbeat quail]

I know I’m not that bad. I just get tilted easily and misplay hard

[bold geode]

Fair
Mine are fighting for 3rd place

[tawdry urchin]

Ik there are teams but most of the time my calyrex lives pretty long, sometimes the whole match

[solid frigate]

also Calm Mind>Nasty Plot

[solid frigate]

because Opposing Teams have bad piloting

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-pokemon-journeys-urshifu-move-gif-24747047

[solid frigate]

again,tunnel visioned

[lofty tartan]

CSR has an edge but there's clear and present counterplay for it. That's why it hasn't taken a Regional yet.

[solid frigate]

yep agree

[lofty tartan]

The second people stop completely hating it out of the format, that changes.

[solid frigate]

which is unlikely

[bold geode]

I now have hope for Honse
Honse is good

[lofty tartan]

Using your experiences on ladder as a definitive picture of the format is incorrect.

[tawdry urchin]

What counter play?

[solid frigate]

Ice Honse or Shadow Honse

[graceful flare]

Surging strikes looks depressing in sv

[lofty tartan]

Snarl, Foul Play, anything-that-hits-it-really-hard-because-it-is-frail

[bold geode]

Shadow Honse rn
But both really

[solid frigate]

Chi Yu,Incineroar,Grimmsnarl

[lofty tartan]

0- Atk 0 IVs Murkrow Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 172-208 (98.2 - 118.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

[solid frigate]

even Farigiraf is kinda nice against Caly S

[lofty tartan]

CSR is the reason Farigiraf is running Foul Play now.

[tawdry urchin]

fr, multi million dollar company yet they can't make good animations 💀 They grabed kyogre's signtaure moves, made it purple and made it regidraco's signature move 💀

[lofty tartan]

Dragon Energy had a different animation in SwSh

[solid frigate]

its more like Origin Pulse now

[graceful flare]

Dragon energy was acc cool but now its just empty inside

[lofty tartan]

I'm fine with it because it deletes my opponent's lead when they call it wrong.

My enjoyment isn't going to hinge on some animation. I want results lol

[tawdry urchin]

yeah yet they just re used kyogre's orgin pulse in sv

[lofty tartan]

Oh well.

[solid frigate]

honestly,can you blame Gamefreak? Fully Open World exists

[bold geode]

I'm fine with it until it fucks me up
Only me use Regidrago

[solid frigate]

PLA is semi Open World due to have different Hubs

[forest arrow]

Like look at the actual models of the pokemon compared to SwSh

Venusaur looks so much better

[tawdry urchin]

Yeah but like comeone the move animtions are some of the best things in the game

[forest arrow]

that’s just 1 example

[solid frigate]

some of them looks so damn great

Lunala is one of them

[lofty tartan]

Groudon finally got a chiropractor

[forest arrow]

Yessss Groudon looks fantastic

[lofty tartan]

My man has a whole new back!

[bold geode]

Hey babe

[forest arrow]

Hey babe

[tawdry urchin]

the new textures look so peak though you can't lie

[forest arrow]

How’s work 😦

[bold geode]

A bitch

[forest arrow]

I felt that, I’m glad I got weekends off I’m sorry :/

[lofty tartan]

The models look great. I don't care about the animations lol. If I could turn them off to save time in VGC matches I would.

[forest arrow]

Agreed

[solid frigate]

true

[bold geode]

I wish
My boss said I was needed exclusively for weekends

[forest arrow]

The Pokémon are what look good and that’s what matters to me

[lofty tartan]

LEFTIES GRASSY TERRAIN RECOVERY OMG STOP TAKING SO LONG

[solid frigate]

a lot of them look so damn good

[bold geode]

You gonna do Wide League tonight?

[forest arrow]

Yeah I’m sorry

[solid frigate]

W I D E (Sorry)

[forest arrow]

Nah I think I wanna drop Ice Horse and persue something else

[lofty tartan]

Fingers crossed - I actually just put in for an assistant store manager position at a crappy place I used to work

[bold geode]

Yeah I wasn't either, I just wonder if you was

[solid frigate]

Damn did not expect from you

[graceful flare]

Inflation is crazy ev boosting items skyrocket in price and 100k for a choice band

[bold geode]

I'm still playing around with Caly S Kommo-O

[solid frigate]

then GRIND

[forest arrow]

I really like Keanus Zama team

[solid frigate]

its actually really good,i tested a bit

[lofty tartan]

Just print ability patches

[forest arrow]

That Lunala team looked fun too

[lofty tartan]

It takes me like an hour to build a whole six from scratch. Ask @bold geode

[bold geode]

Got this in like an hour time?

Fuck that's small hold up

[forest arrow]

It won’t be forever just for now, may try hard trick room with it, definitely will use it in double restricted

[bold geode]

There

[lofty tartan]

At least have it as a TR option into TW

I don't think we do TW Lunala

[solid frigate]

that looks like a Balance team but defensive maxed

[bold geode]

Yeah lmao
Meanwhile I just throw shit together and call it a fuckin day

[lofty tartan]

That doesn't work

You end up coming to me

[bold geode]

Well it has THOUGHT

[forest arrow]

Agreed, I like TR or screens

[bold geode]

Not a lot tho

[lofty tartan]

Lmao

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[solid frigate]

i mean i just lost once with the Caly S team

[forest arrow]

I mean 🤷🏻‍♂️ and we can drop Twave for parting shot for more Pivot

[bold geode]

But no like you think more about all these interactions though
I'm a bit more on the side of "fuck it, I like how it looks"

[forest arrow]

or keep it incase we don’t get TR up

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/0e429bfe4b6af1d7

[mighty stump]

I don’t believe my eyes, actually significant comp discussion?

[lofty tartan]

252 SpA Lunala Moongeist Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow: 360-424 (205.7 - 242.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shadow Shield Lunala through Light Screen: 113-136 (53.3 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[mighty stump]

Shadow Shield is great

[solid frigate]

i am still livid on that sweatshirt-

[lofty tartan]

I love Shadow Shield

[bold geode]

The world's ending, kiss your ass goodbye

[forest arrow]

That’s insane

[lofty tartan]

After TWave, CSR is a measly 111 speed

[graceful flare]

Alolan ninetails moveset

[forest arrow]

Hmmm

[graceful flare]

Choice scarf torkoal eruption

[lofty tartan]

That's slower than Lunala with no speed investment

[bold geode]

But like
It's like I was saying before
I'm more just like
Grab stuff I know I can use against something and then figure out my lines as I go lmao

[forest arrow]

Ahh that nice so we can afford bulk investment

[lofty tartan]

But like 31 speed IV. If 0 speed then Lunala is 102

[forest arrow]

maybe no TR?

just balance?

[lofty tartan]

So like... Lunala in TR with 31 speed IV and 0 investment is fine because you're still underspeeding most threats.

BUT we can always just try CM Lunala

Obviously it's had success.

Lunala bulky.

[graceful flare]

Should I run icy wind and blizard

[bold geode]

God we're just now starting R4

[lofty tartan]

Honestly a lot of people struggle when they try to take a team that's had some success and reinvent the wheel, so-to-speak

[mighty stump]

I mean

[graceful flare]

On nintale

[mighty stump]

Zheng rn is running CM Lunala

[lofty tartan]

^

This.

[forest arrow]

Yeah I put his paste in your office

[lofty tartan]

Danke

[forest arrow]

interesting sets

steel rilla

[graceful flare]

Yall wanna help me

[bold geode]

Yeah Mika in case you missed it
They basically had an hour and a half delay for LA
Cuz no one could connect to the Internet

Zachary running Talon flame
Probably Dual Wingbeat

[graceful flare]

Yall wanna help me

[forest arrow]

Ninetales-Alola @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Snow Warning
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Aurora Veil
• Helping Hand
• Blizzard
• Moonblast

[bold geode]

No wtf?

[graceful flare]

What did I do

[bold geode]

Not directed at you

[forest arrow]

Talonflame in reg g

[bold geode]

Gothitelle again

[mighty stump]

People cooking with Koraidon

[bold geode]

Zackary did some shit with Zama

[molten oasis]

How’d regionals go today

[bold geode]

R4 rn lmao

[lofty tartan]

Lol that's kinda funny

[molten oasis]

They’re still going?

[forest arrow]

You love to see it

[bold geode]

Did you not see the delay shit Drago?

[molten oasis]

I took a nap

[forest arrow]

They barely started 4 hours ago lol

Internet issues iirc

[bold geode]

Basically they had an hour and a half delay cuz no one could connect to the Internet

[mighty stump]

Lol

Set up + Scream Tail

Iconic combo

[molten oasis]

Wild

[forest arrow]

Some wild shit lol

[lofty tartan]

I'll catch up on Regionals coverage when I can skip the commentary and cut right to the games

[bold geode]

Like pairings went up for LA I believe 10-11 AM my time?
And it was like 12:30 when they started

[lofty tartan]

5D chess moves

[forest arrow]

I can ping you

[lofty tartan]

I may just cut to Zheng's match now though

[forest arrow]

So you can skip the boring stuff

[lofty tartan]

I can rewind 😄

[bold geode]

Might as well just watch it tomorrow lmao
Else you'll be up late lol

[forest arrow]

Okay cool lol

[mighty stump]

Chien-Pao + Talonflame pog

[lofty tartan]

Nah I can rewind and watch Zheng

[forest arrow]

Them Brave birds are something fierce lol

[bold geode]

Now just give us Tusk as well

[lofty tartan]

Oh he's against Giovanni Costa? Match hype

[forest arrow]

Was a great match, into Mirai

[lofty tartan]

I've got it up now.

I want the hoodie

[forest arrow]

Me too lol

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna get some made.

Screw it

[mighty stump]

is Tflame running L-Orb?

[bold geode]

Yup

[lofty tartan]

Man this Incineroar definitely chose violence.

[mighty stump]

Sick

[lofty tartan]

No WoW no Flare Blitz

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[lofty tartan]

Parting, Taunt, Knock, FO

[solid frigate]

WAIT TALONFLAME WHAT DID I MISS-

[mighty stump]

Zac has Tofu-level RNG

[lofty tartan]

I wonder if it's TurboIncin

[bold geode]

Honestly Moxie mentioned it
Talonflame Dual Wingbeat?

[forest arrow]

I think it is since it has taunt

I was gonna point that out

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it'll be important to see the turn order there.

[bold geode]

That's Gale Wings Dual Wingbeat

[lofty tartan]

Then we can sorta guess

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-lmao-gif-25834385

[molten oasis]

Who?

[lofty tartan]

Omg that's great. Dual Wingbeat Gale Wings.

[bold geode]

Pick up KOs on Whims thru Sash or other Sash shit

[lofty tartan]

Oh for sure

[molten oasis]

Zac a dude on stream?

[forest arrow]

The guy in the match rn

[solid frigate]

Wait Zamazenta vs who

[forest arrow]

Yeah lol

[molten oasis]

I see

[bold geode]

Zackary Thornberg

[molten oasis]

Zac(k)

[forest arrow]

Not everything is about zacian draygo

lol (joking)

[solid frigate]

Zama vs Koraidon heh

[lofty tartan]

Lunala Grimm lead into Chi/Mirai

[bold geode]

The Aaron Zheng old RNG lives on thru Tofu

SCREAM TAIL FLOATING AGAIN

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it can fly

[solid frigate]

i love it lol

[lofty tartan]

Swap an airborne pokemon with a pokemon capable and they'll be floating

[bold geode]

I never see it do that, so it always looks cursed

[forest arrow]

Does jigglypuff float too?

[solid frigate]

example,Metagross

[solid frigate]

think so

[forest arrow]

That’s cool small neat little details lol

[bold geode]

DRAGON ZAMAZENTA

[solid frigate]

props to GF on this

[molten oasis]

Zac confuses me

[bold geode]

Ngl I thought about Dragon Zama once

[forest arrow]

I was just giving you a hard time brother lol

[molten oasis]

That’s how I abbreviate the name I’m gonna get confused cuz I’m dumb

[solid frigate]

but Koraidon still hit Neutral and now Bolt Exists

[bold geode]

Join the dumb club bro

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[forest arrow]

Im already there

[bold geode]

Same bro

My seat was reserved

[mighty stump]

IT LIVES ON ONE

Wait why did Flare Blitz do so little 😭

[warped mason]

What is giovanni's restricted?

[forest arrow]

Miraidon

[solid frigate]

Miraidon

[warped mason]

Cool

[solid frigate]

but Zheng made me quite mad

[warped mason]

I don't mind seeing miraidon everywhere, its a black airforce energy mon

One shots things it shouldn't

[mighty stump]

Oof

Quick cancel

[solid frigate]

Welp round 3 now

[forest arrow]

everyones running goth lol

[solid frigate]

Terapagos also has one lol

"Chien Prow"

Can we make a Prowler Meme on it

yeah its doomed

Zama won

[forest arrow]

dang ggs alex

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

hoi Nova

[craggy dagger]

haiii~
did anything interesting happen today?

[solid frigate]

welp Los angles regionals

and look at the sweatshirt and know why i am LIVID

[craggy dagger]

what does it say-
i can make out the derpagos-

[onyx crown]

What EVs are good for Incineroar again?

[onyx crown]

Does that say "mid"? Lmao

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Mid he said

[solid frigate]

its not even mid at the slightest

[craggy dagger]

oh mid-

well tbf he’s point at derpagos not terapagos-

honestly-
take out the mid
and i think that’ll make a cute hoodie

[solid frigate]

you know whats worse,he blames on Terapagos on losing him Indy when he Pilot it badly in Round 3

[solid frigate]

yep.

[onyx crown]

Incineroar EVs. Speed and HP?

[solid frigate]

HP

[onyx crown]

Ok, so HP, and what

50/50 for it's defenses?

[solid frigate]

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 228 HP / 4 Atk / 124 Def / 124 SpD / 28 Spe
Impish Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Taunt
• Fake Out

just take those EVs

[onyx crown]

50/50 for it's defenses.

[mighty stump]

Explain the EVs first lol

Like

[craggy dagger]

it’s a bit outdated but here’s mine-

EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 100 Def / 156 SpD / 12 Spe

[mighty stump]

I thought I mentioned that it’s kinda a good thing to know what your EVs are doing 😭

[onyx crown]

I know what EVs do.

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[forest arrow]

No he means they need to explain their spreads

[bold geode]

I just know they're Tofu spreads, so I grab em

[craggy dagger]

oh are they-?

i nabbed mine from brady iirc-

[bold geode]

No, that's just my behavior lmao

[craggy dagger]

and adjusted a little bit for less speed

[onyx crown]

Tofu broken. Need nerf.

[forest arrow]

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 188 Def / 76 SpD / 4 Spe
Impish Nature

• Knock Off
• Will-O-Wisp
• Fake Out
• Parting Shot
  Lives Surging Strikes from 252+ Mystic Water Urshifu all but 6.3% of the time
  Spdef dump + 4/4 in Speed/Attack
  Ghost Tera was chosen to resist fighting, for example, Close Combat from Urshifu, or another notable one is Zama with body press, they always OHKO if you don’t tera so keep that in mind
  Safety Goggles to avoid Amoonguss sleep.

[mighty stump]

Someone that listens inshallah

[craggy dagger]

[forest arrow]

you taught me well papa

[onyx crown]

(I knew that Safety Goggles were required, too)

[mighty stump]

Although

I’m pretty sure you need Sitrus to live Surging

So

[craggy dagger]

i only have calcs for stupid things tofu-
you know this-
i grab whatever spread is regular if it’s a meta pokemon

[solid frigate]

252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 220 HP / 124+ Def Incineroar: 168-200 (84.8 - 101%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
156+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 220 HP / 124+ Def Incineroar on a critical hit: 180-216 (90.9 - 109%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 220 HP / 124 SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 160-190 (41.4 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
have a Chance to Tank Cornerstone Ogerpon and Urshifu Rapid(with Sitrus),With Assualt Vest or not can tank Miraidon's Regular E-drift

[craggy dagger]

this is true-

[mighty stump]

Idc if its stupid as long as its explained, people have a habit of just dumping EV spreads and then not saying what they do

Like thank you for this arbitrary bunch of numbers

Understanding +0

[solid frigate]

dude you know i am terrible on explaining

[onyx crown]

You did it pretty easily for AV Regice.

[forest arrow]

youre right shi- that was before goggles change

[craggy dagger]

Have a cinderace spread then

Striker #53 (Cinderace) @ Choice Band
Ability: Libero
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 164 HP / 76 Atk / 52 Def / 68 SpD / 148 Spe
Adamant Nature

• U-turn
• Low Kick
• Pyro Ball
• Tera Blast

Lives a 252+ Atk Choice Banded Extreme speed from (tera normal or not tera’d) Dragonite: [252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 164 HP / 52 Def Cinderace: 135-160 (76.7 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]
[252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 164 HP / 52 Def Cinderace: 90-107 (51.1 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]

[bold geode]

The numbers Mason

[craggy dagger]

Lives a 252+ proto SpA thunderclap from Raging Bolt (tera electric or not): [252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 164 HP / 68 SpD Cinderace: 102-121 (57.9 - 68.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]
[252+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera Electric Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 164 HP / 68 SpD Cinderace: 136-162 (77.2 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]
Calced to live a 252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Stomping Tantrum from Entei (without Life Orb): [252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Entei Stomping Tantrum vs. 164 HP / 52 Def Cinderace: 136-162 (77.2 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]

[mighty stump]

Yes, but like it’s not a difficult thing to copypaste:

• Spread
• Calcs

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

time to cope

[craggy dagger]

i mean tofu has a point-

[solid frigate]

ik

[tawdry urchin]

https://pokepast.es/8b14c7d235812402 Does anyone know a pokemon on my team I can give a good dark type to? The fucking giraff is so annoying to deal with

[solid frigate]

looks fine for me

[onyx crown]

Use a bug

[solid frigate]

or pokemon with U-turn

[mighty stump]

No incineroar oof

[tawdry urchin]

I don't think urshifu even 1 shots it

[solid frigate]

again,you too reliant on Urshifu

[onyx crown]

Isn't Urshifu weak to Giraffe.

[tawdry urchin]

Ok then what about grass monke?

[solid frigate]

well Yea

then again

Urshifu Dark Exists

[onyx crown]

Is he using Urshifu Dark?

[solid frigate]

rapid

[onyx crown]

Swap Rapid for Single

[bold geode]

Bruh my store's fuckin pillow aisle just vanished
Ain't shit

[solid frigate]

also Lando wasn't good with Caly S

just replace Lando With Incin

[tawdry urchin]

Nah

[bold geode]

Lol

[tawdry urchin]

land is there for taunt and to counter miraidon

[solid frigate]

Incin with Tera Grass:

[bold geode]

Lando is there for Taunt is a wild thing to say lmao

[solid frigate]

lmao

[onyx crown]

Lando trying to hold it together after seeing a little grass dude on a dead horse

[tawdry urchin]

What? It works

[bold geode]

Like forget the fact it can blast stuff with an Earth Power

TAUNT

[solid frigate]

and Sludge Bomb for beating Ogerpons

[tawdry urchin]

Whats your issue? If you have one say it

[solid frigate]

there are a lot of Mons who are good with taunt better than Lando,Incineroar for example

[lofty tartan]

That there are faster taunters that are less frail on the back swing.

[onyx crown]

Incineroar is just better at taunting than Landorus.

[bold geode]

Nothing, I ran Taunt
I just wouldn't say that's the MAIN reason why you use it when Incineroar does the same thing or can do

[lofty tartan]

Like Incin Taunt is good because he's bulky.

Lando can like maybe squeeze off a taunt and eat dirt

[solid frigate]

same thing BUT BETTER

[onyx crown]

Herbie, did you nuke a Terapagos?

[lofty tartan]

I've nuked Terapagos with Miraidon - why?

[onyx crown]

Miraidon. Ehhhhhh

[lofty tartan]

🙄

[solid frigate]

yep Miraidon just hits so damn hard

[onyx crown]

Miraidon kinda ugly tho. Ngl

[tawdry urchin]

I don't use incin, It's useless on my team and landious gets more value

[lofty tartan]

I've also nuked Terapagos with Iron Hands. Just gotta play well

[solid frigate]

i can't belive someone said Incineroar USELESS

[bold geode]

"Incineroar is useless"

[midnight compass]

Who said incin is useless ?