competitive_discussion

[south shuttle]

😭

[timber falcon]

bro i was coking with koraidon, 1 win from 1500 with a gxe of 73%

then it all came falling down

[rustic mountain]

yea it def seems to have fallen out of favor, sun isnt really wat ppl thought itd be originally

[mighty stump]

Cause common sun mons being splashable like Bolt/Flutter makes it so it becomes double-edged

Unlike Rain

[timber falcon]

lost like 10% of that gxe in a few games

[rustic mountain]

been there lmao

[mighty stump]

Urshifu-RS is like one mon that still doesn't like Kyogre and Torn is a mirror

[rustic mountain]

very tru

[mighty stump]

But at least its a lot less mindgamey as well calcs wise

Like you know Urshifu is Scarfed

You know Tornadus is X

[rustic mountain]

yea i usually dont mind tornogre leads w/ torn watershifu but it can get dicey

[timber falcon]

mind games are my style of play, i love em

[mighty stump]

WHAT

THE TYOUR IS TODAY

I THOUGHT IT WAS TOMORROW

BRO

[rustic mountain]

oof

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

truly a "tour is today?!" moment

[solid frigate]

+1 252+ SpA Necrozma-Dawn-Wings Moongeist Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Lugia: 170-204 (79.8 - 95.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

POV:Dawn Wings Charging a Kamehameha

[mighty stump]

Im so upset

Lol

[timber falcon]

multiscale?

[rustic mountain]

that sucks sorry dude

[solid frigate]

Moongeist bypasses it

[rustic mountain]

no way u can play in it today im guessing?

[timber falcon]

oh wait u missed the tour?

[rustic mountain]

or like its already started?

[solid frigate]

+1 252+ SpA Necrozma-Dawn-Wings Meteor Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Lugia: 69-82 (32.3 - 38.4%) -- 98.2% chance to 3HKO

[timber falcon]

i thought there was still time

[mighty stump]

This is what it said

But it already started

[solid frigate]

F

[timber falcon]

F

[rustic mountain]

i hate deciphering gmt + times

[mighty stump]

Like that's tomorrow for me

WAIKT

I THINK I JOINED THE WRONG ONE

[timber falcon]

huh

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

Even more F

[mighty stump]

INSHALLAH

IM DUMB AS SHIT

[solid frigate]

rare Tofu F

[thick patrol]

Does Orichalcum pulse get extended by heat rock?

[solid frigate]

just don't.

Don't use Heat Rock on Koraidon

[dapper crag]

Item: Heat Rock

Holder's use of Sunny Day lasts 8 turns instead of 5.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

i think hes onto something

[mighty stump]

I'd assume it does extend it but I don;'t think it's worth it lol

Weather Wars being so extensive

[timber falcon]

that is for singles

[solid frigate]

i saw someone run all 3 Paradox Beast with Torkal Heat Rock

basically Koraidon Proto Spam but worse

[thick patrol]

I was just wondering if it worked or not

[rustic mountain]

weather wars and the fact that most games r not going 8+ turns

[solid frigate]

so yeah i rather use Clear Amulet on this one

[rustic mountain]

dont see y it wouldnt

[solid frigate]

or scarf if you want to outspeed Caly S,Zacian and Flutter

[mighty stump]

I mean

As long as you trigger Sun

Heat Rock extends it

[timber falcon]

ima test

[solid frigate]

moongeist go brrr

[mighty stump]

No need

Google already answered

[dapper crag]

Item: Heat Rock

Holder's use of Sunny Day lasts 8 turns instead of 5.

Fling

60 Power

Introduced

Generation 4

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[mighty stump]

Oh thought it would pull up Bulbapedia

Anyways Bulbapedia says it does

So

It does

[solid frigate]

but then again

Clear Amulet ansd Choice Scarf >Heat Rock

[mighty stump]

Well yeah

I don't see why it would never extend it since its about just generally setting sun

But it's nice to get secondary confirmation

[solid frigate]

yeah

[timber falcon]

ok it does in fact extend it

[mighty stump]

Google did it faster

[timber falcon]

nothing wrong with seeing for myself

[mighty stump]

Nerd

[molten oasis]

i give up back to the drawing board

[timber falcon]

just means am smarter

[twin cargo]

HOW DOES ONE BEAT ASSAULT VEST TERA FAIRY MIRAIDON

[molten oasis]

gg

[rustic mountain]

u basically jus called tofu a liar

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-magolor-insanity-gif-27227666

[molten oasis]

gonna go take a break and recollect myself, i played like shit all day

[solid frigate]

This chat be like:

[twin cargo]

i keep getting my ass kicked by it 😞

[solid frigate]

by what

[craggy dagger]

please do-

[rustic mountain]

this is jus vgc

[molten oasis]

cant deal with wisp or taunt at all

[solid frigate]

so true

[molten oasis]

i do not understand how tf to use pelipper

[craggy dagger]

though tbh sableye was your wall that you hit

[molten oasis]

its still a wall

[timber falcon]

mitigate fire, make shifu stronk

[twin cargo]

assault vest tera fairy miraidon

[craggy dagger]

everyone else you could have prolly dealt with

[solid frigate]

i think Throwdat has better explaination

[molten oasis]

and i have to just assume im fighting everything

[solid frigate]

Tf

[mighty stump]

Well, luckily AV Miraidon doesn't have the OHKO potential like Specs MIraidon does

[molten oasis]

cuz this format can throw literally anything at me

[craggy dagger]

no im saying you had answers to everyone else on my team-

[molten oasis]

i dont think the team is bad i just, i cant, FUCK

[solid frigate]

how does People still use Tera Fairy AV Miraidon-

[mighty stump]

So you just mainly need to get speed control on your side

[craggy dagger]

im sorry what-?

[timber falcon]

is AV miraidon bad?

[molten oasis]

maybe i take another 5 day break again

[solid frigate]

worse option than Specs At least

[timber falcon]

what about electric seed sybiosis AV miraidn

[molten oasis]

thats something i do involuntarily then expect to come back playing like wolfe

[timber falcon]

i think im onto smth actually

[mighty stump]

Terrain Control is also really important

You remove 1.3x1.3 multipliers from Miraidon

Something like Rillaboom is good.

[dapper crag]

Ability: Symbiosis

If an ally uses its item, this Pokemon gives its item to that ally immediately. Does not activate if the ally's item was stolen or knocked off, or if the ally used an Eject Button or Eject Pack.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[twin cargo]

gotcha 🫡

[mighty stump]

Spread Damage is also tends to be pretty weak from Miraidon, as long as you resist it

For Tera-Fairy running Gleams

Redirection + anything that's neutral can be good

If you can manage to get Miraidon to also just Draco Meteor, it cuts it's damage output by a lot

[graceful flare]

Koraidon better for comp imo

[timber falcon]

just no

[mighty stump]

If it's not running Draco Meteor, it doesn't have that powerful delete button access

So something like Amoonguss can be a good redirection for you.

[timber falcon]

rn miraidon is better

[molten oasis]

guess pult is going back in the fucking box, i can play my absolute best and it wont matter since its just not doing what it needs to

[solid frigate]

i feel like i just expect Miraidon to Be Tera Electric since Rajan's Team won the Regionals

[molten oasis]

i'll make it a rental and call it a day

[solid frigate]

plus it a Delete Button

[mighty stump]

I mean yeah I get that

But flexibility is also nice sometimes

AV for better damage trades

[solid frigate]

fair enough,I did ran Tera Fairy Miraidon before

[mighty stump]

I still run DGleam

I don't like Discharge/Parabolic

[solid frigate]

i ran E-Drift,Gleam,Draco and Calm Mind and pair it with E-Seed

[rustic mountain]

i think ppl prolly trynna innovate since rajans team is highly targetted

[mighty stump]

I highly considered Tera-Ground Clefairy

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

oh yeah stops Miraidon's 3/4 Specs Set Moves

[molten oasis]

back on break i go

[mighty stump]

If they opt for Spread I can basically Heal Pulse the side slot

p sure my caly lives

[rustic mountain]

caly wen it gets discharge paralyzed:

[solid frigate]

fair point

[mighty stump]

Do you hate me

Is that it

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

pfft

Funni

[rustic mountain]

only cuz ive had it happen to me tofu

[mighty stump]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Discharge vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow Rider in Electric Terrain with Friend Guard: 150-177 (72.4 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

See just enough

It's fine

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

After 1 CM im set

[rustic mountain]

tru

[solid frigate]

Damn

[mighty stump]

ACTUALLY

I CANNOT GET PARA'D

IM COVERT CLOAK CALY

HAHAHAHAHA

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah

[mighty stump]

I forgor about that part

[rustic mountain]

oh well yea haha in that case

[mighty stump]

Never getting Para'd

Ez pz

[rustic mountain]

i should play some cart today

[mighty stump]

I gotta get some mons ready for tomorrow

[rustic mountain]

yea i need to ev some mons for new teams

wanna use kyogre and terapagos

[mighty stump]

Just fuse them

Yw

[rustic mountain]

tru

[solid frigate]

did i heard tortol

[rustic mountain]

whale turtle gna go crazy

[mighty stump]

Use this

Yw

[solid frigate]

Pfft

Kyopagos infinite FUsion when

[rustic mountain]

tf even is that hhaha

[timber falcon]

Tofu going insane?

[solid frigate]

DNA splicer-

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

Tour is played on SD let's go

[solid frigate]

ya know,the one where you fuse The Tao Trio?

[mighty stump]

I don't even have to prep

[rustic mountain]

based

[mighty stump]

Fake Pokemon player

I never even played Gen 5 part 2

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

at least i know ;-;

[timber falcon]

It’s the one for kyurem right

[mighty stump]

Dat just means ur a nerd

[mighty stump]

bigger nerd

[solid frigate]

hey i admit i am a nerd

[timber falcon]

Aww shucks ty

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

Same

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

NOT REP

[solid frigate]

PFFT

[rustic mountain]

free rep

[mighty stump]

REP FARMING IN MY CHANNEl

REPORTED

ITs over for you

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[solid frigate]

OTOT

Death reason:Gets Reported because Rep Farming

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[solid frigate]

me when Copium on Dawn Wings can win a Regional Be like

[mighty stump]

Someone needs to edit Electro Drift > Wasted

[charred saddle]

thanks

[gentle crag]

abused1 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/Es-T9WH7fe4?si=Z11-eWMGsB6LzILo

I feel Like this is a obvious answer

[rustic mountain]

is it?

[solid frigate]

like the Wasted meme in GTA?

[mighty stump]

yep

[solid frigate]

i wanna see it lol

[molten oasis]

probably emboar chesnaught or delphox

[solid frigate]

Very true

[rustic mountain]

wolfey wen he runs out of best of x type and worst videos:

[solid frigate]

and Maybe Meganium but idk why i feel like it have some stuff going on

[timber falcon]

We all know it’s meganium

[molten oasis]

anyway im just closing discord for the day i dont want to think about vgc for the rest of the day, dont ping me unless its important thx

[foggy lodge]

I already saw it

[timber falcon]

Looking at it hurts my eye

[solid frigate]

i'll tell you later,no spoilers

[foggy lodge]

||Meganium is not even mentioned💀||

[rustic mountain]

emboar and chesnaught both have results they arent good but not worst

[craggy dagger]

best of luck drago

[mighty stump]

Its Meganium

[solid frigate]

wait.

WHAT.

[mighty stump]

I skipped to the end

[rustic mountain]

oh ty

[molten oasis]

cool

[rustic mountain]

yea that makes sense

[mighty stump]

NOT EMBOAR

LETS GOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rustic mountain]

w

[molten oasis]

bye y'all enjoy your games or whatever you do today

[rustic mountain]

wolfey is the reason emboar wouldnt be last, hes the one who cut w/ it

[timber falcon]

Remember no one spoil

[mighty stump]

Oh my bad

[solid frigate]

||At least Greninja is not in the List :)||

[mighty stump]

Wolfe thinks Meganium is the worst starter

[foggy lodge]

jk/

[timber falcon]

The spite lmao

[mighty stump]

Its ok you can't read

Gottem

If he admits it that means he gets spoiled

If he doesn't

That means he can't read

the PIN

[solid frigate]

||at least Greninja is not in the List and I am Perfectly fine about it||

[rustic mountain]

greninja is like middle of the pack

[timber falcon]

[foggy lodge]

Greninja was good in XY right?

[solid frigate]

Begining of XY

[mighty stump]

If you're playing Chess

Im playing

[solid frigate]

as Pledge or Protean user

[foggy lodge]

I know in singles is consistently good but i think during a short time it was good in VGC

[mighty stump]

Ik those are poker chips

Just pretend it's checkers

[rustic mountain]

i played vs a pledge team the other day

[solid frigate]

Its a very good Pledge and Protean User

in 2014

[rustic mountain]

lol

greninja yd they do u like that

[timber falcon]

Isn’t It the other way round lmao

[rustic mountain]

i think that was the point

[timber falcon]

Or am I lacking in brain

[mighty stump]

So you admit you can read therefore you got spoiled therefore I won

[solid frigate]

i mean knowing I am a Greninja Fanboy i just look at shit

[rustic mountain]

also that is a checkers montrosity idk if that thing is playing by the rules

[mighty stump]

Or you do not understand the reverse joke and therefore cannot read and therefore I win again

[timber falcon]

Now I’m generally con-fuddled

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

I've opened my fourth eye

[rustic mountain]

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/fyodor-death-shower-fyodor-rip-fyodor-bsd-fyodor-bsd-shower-gif-2037825042799834260

Ignore caption

[rustic mountain]

no

[timber falcon]

What if I strike a deal

[solid frigate]

lmao

[mighty stump]

What's the deal

[timber falcon]

Ignore caption or ignore caption

[rustic mountain]

terrible deal

[mighty stump]

I pick or

[timber falcon]

U pick the best choice

[mighty stump]

My current mood is exemplified by a jpg i unfortunately cannot send

This is devastating to me

I will DM Tree

[solid frigate]

"Torterra got stuck with a Quadruple Weakness to Ice,And a Great Role in Detective Pikachu"

--WolfeyVGC,2024

[rustic mountain]

wow thanks so much tofu

[mighty stump]

yw

[timber falcon]

Now I’m curious

[mighty stump]

ok ill dm u

[timber falcon]

Lmfao

[solid frigate]

i rather not knowing but curious

[rustic mountain]

[autumn vault]

POG

My favourite starter ever is not trash as fuck

[solid frigate]

Not Greninja and i am perfectly fine about this

[autumn vault]

Yeah Greninja did fall off in SV but it was very good in XY

and also SM/USUM thanks to battle bond

Not sure how good it was since i haven't played comp in those gens

But i know it wasn't trash

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 658: Greninja

Types

Water/Dark

Abilities

Torrent, Protean (Hidden), Battle Bond (Special)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

72/95/67/103/71/122

Total

530

Other Formes

Greninja-Bond, Greninja-Ash

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

I don't want to know

[solid frigate]

not legal in VGC

[autumn vault]

Oh. right

[dapper crag]

Greninja's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bounce, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Counter, Cut, Dig, Dive, Facade, False Swipe, Feint Attack, Fling, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Ice Punch, Lick, Liquidation, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Night Slash, Pound, Power-Up Punch, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Shadow Sneak, Smack Down, Strength, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, U-turn, Upper Hand, Waterfall

Special Moves

Blizzard, Bubble, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Echoed Voice, Extrasensory, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Round, Scald, Sludge Wave, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Water Shuriken, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Bestow, Camouflage, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Growl, Happy Hour, Haze, Helping Hand, Mat Block, Mind Reader, Mud Sport, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Role Play, Sleep Talk, Smokescreen, Snatch, Snowscape, Spikes, Spite, Substitute, Swagger, Switcheroo, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Water Sport, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Greninja.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

Greninja's only bad thing is that its stats is miserable

speed is fine but others-

[autumn vault]

True

[pearl wind]

this game can be so silly

[solid frigate]

What the fu-

[pearl wind]

its randbats dw

wouldnt happen in doubles

[solid frigate]

thank god

[autumn vault]

Has anyone noticed my new server username? If you knew about Drago a month ago, then i think my username explains it

[solid frigate]

i see it just now lol

[pearl wind]

i think i'll try going top500 with this account, hit 1950 on a different one a while ago but felt possible

[autumn vault]

Basically i am taking a break, just feel like i need it

I will take a break from chatting

[solid frigate]

fair

[autumn vault]

I feel like it's been going pretty badly

[solid frigate]

sad

[autumn vault]

1. making things more heated for some reason
2. Insulting more
3. Seeing spanish people
4. Just getting angrier more often

Don't expect me to show up as often

[south shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/kinoplex-steak-allow-me-to-explain-the-guy-above-me-is-insane-talking-gif-24312956

[autumn vault]

@molten oasis Found a D-Pult

You are not the only one

[timber falcon]

How

[pearl wind]

wat

randbats is pretty fun imo

[autumn vault]

Aelÿz is right

[timber falcon]

Yeah Ik

But 25/27 like wow

Ur good

[charred saddle]

alyz alyz

[pearl wind]

wat

[charred saddle]

almost full

[pearl wind]

needs yveltal

[solid frigate]

I need my problems

[timber falcon]

Give

[charred saddle]

i hab shiny yveltal in my own go

[tidal blade]

i've been doing ok

most of the losses are from old teams

[north pagoda]

Going to sleep huh?

[charred saddle]

uhhhhhh

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125613308 Ditto MU

[charred saddle]

i uhhhhhh

yk uhhhh

[autumn vault]

Also back to 1400 elo, again

[charred saddle]

just wanna see my mons

[timber falcon]

How u got so many shinies

[autumn vault]

Also this is good

[strange fjord]

nice

[solid frigate]

i have a Glicko of 1517 better than Reg F's 1490

[pearl wind]

yup is pretty good so far but in at least one of those two losses i messed up big time didnt consider the end game enough

[solid frigate]

and Elo of 1303

[strange fjord]

thinking of doing some battles in vc, anyone interested in joining?

[tidal blade]

what are we thinking about zamazenta or caly-i with ting lu

might cook up a team

[autumn vault]

I have a slightly better Glicko and better elo and better winrate, you have played more games

[timber falcon]

Singles remains a mystery to me , the 6v6 ones

[solid frigate]

not now,i have tons of guest in my home

[solid frigate]

true

[autumn vault]

Don't want to reveal my voice so no

[strange fjord]

fair

[solid frigate]

Me after i played so much

[autumn vault]

Its not bad

[pearl wind]

you know wat i mean

[autumn vault]

Its good

[strange fjord]

its all good, irl stuff first

[solid frigate]

i think i am not that bad as well

i'm still mid

[autumn vault]

I think i love Koraidon, Zekrom still my favourite legend

[solid frigate]

Terapagos and Dawn Wings now

[tidal blade]

i've practically had to relearn the game after taking a long break because life got in the way

[strange fjord]

Aw man, i didn't play showdown in the last few days and my elo fell a little

[autumn vault]

I like Koraidon Kyogre and Zekrom

[strange fjord]

no longer at 1700

[pearl wind]

yeah is pretty different compared to vgc

[solid frigate]

but is my records ok

[timber falcon]

Higher than mine has ever been

[autumn vault]

Fun fact: GameFreak balances their game around 4v4 and 3v3 formats, not just VGC, what the don't balance is 6v6

[tidal blade]

i need to explore some more archetypes but so far im liking hooh a fair bit

[next stump]

caly-i with ting lu is something I thought about too but you're super weak to incineroar with wisp/amoonguss

like you want to set up TR but it's easy to backfire

great into Miraidon though

[strange fjord]

at least i got that 69 in my elo

POGrimer

[timber falcon]

I can tell

[thick patrol]

What’s a good item to run with single strike urshifu

[solid frigate]

at least my win rate is over 50%

I am not useless

[tidal blade]

most people run sash

[solid frigate]

Sash or Band

[bold geode]

Focus Sash, Choice Band

[solid frigate]

FS CB heh

[charred saddle]

hehe

[autumn vault]

When i actually try my best, i am actually cracked

[solid frigate]

idk sometimes i done pretty well when i am half awake

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-8756479027427251726

[solid frigate]

ITS 6PM

[autumn vault]

Ah right

You still need it

Btw how stupid do you think this is?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125619266 Replay btw

[solid frigate]

ok wha

[autumn vault]

That one used to be from the late 1300s

Now mid 1300s

Because that thought process is mid

[solid frigate]

WHY DID HE SWITCH OUT WHEN METEOR BEAM

[autumn vault]

I am definetely stealing that 😈

[solid frigate]

its in the Greninja SMash Bros Discord

[tidal blade]

why is there a discord for specifially smash bros greninja

[autumn vault]

Too late

[solid frigate]

because every character has a Dscord in Smash

[autumn vault]

I don't need nitro to use it outside of the main server

I will just do some stuff to lighten myself for sunday

[solid frigate]

imma play TOTK for Relaxation

[autumn vault]

The average person needs to relax a little bit every day to stay normal
Me and Drago need a damn therapist to help us stop taking breaks and raging

It's a joke btw

[next stump]

chicago locals are tough lol, 5 regional champions and basically half or more of the players have made one or may Day 2’s this year

[solid frigate]

damn

[graceful flare]

What ev spread for koraidon

[autumn vault]

Koraidon @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Flame Charge
• Flare Blitz
• Collision Course
• Protect

You're welcome

[graceful flare]

Is 252 252 4 good

What abt defence

[solid frigate]

no

[autumn vault]

The best ev spread for Koraidon

[solid frigate]

you need speed

[autumn vault]

Don't invest into defense

[graceful flare]

Whar nature and why

[autumn vault]

Adamant and Jolly, they help Koraidon more and it wants to dish out as much damage as possible so bulk isn't great

A bulky set isn't bad but i prefer 252 Att / 252 Spe / 4 Sp. Def

It's the most consistent set

[foggy lodge]

true

I love the Pokemon Trainer server

[solid frigate]

I joined Meta Knight,Greninja,Aegis and BOTW Link

[autumn vault]

I joined 0 because i don't play smash competitively

If i did then i would joing King dedede, Steve and Aegis

[foggy lodge]

I wanted to join some more like the Sora one but i'm using just Pokemon Trainer rn

[autumn vault]

Because they are my mains

[foggy lodge]

I want to start autopiloting myself before i start using more characters

[solid frigate]

i haven't joined Toon Link cuz i main Greninja,Aegis and Toon Link

[autumn vault]

Also why is there a server for every character? Seems unnecesary

[solid frigate]

i mean

for non smash players, fandoms exists

[autumn vault]

Fair

[timber falcon]

Very interesting

[autumn vault]

Yup

[charred saddle]

where did u even get that

and do you even have the permission to share it

[timber falcon]

Brady Smith twitter

[charred saddle]

[timber falcon]

Sorry if it was supposed to be secret

[autumn vault]

Who cares about that?

[timber falcon]

In case it wasn’t public

[charred saddle]

since what i know is that the team isnt supposed to be out yet, and iirc brady just calc stuffs?

[autumn vault]

😠

[charred saddle]

dk might be wrong

i assume he just reverse calc it

[timber falcon]

Probably, unless he knows and asked abt it

Reverse calc can find out a Pokémon’s evs?

[charred saddle]

rough estimation

[timber falcon]

Makes sense

[solid frigate]

WTF

[timber falcon]

Oh my banded rillaboom

[solid frigate]

ITS A RESISTED MOVE

[timber falcon]

Why did I miss this regional

[autumn vault]

Tera fire

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125635134-z2fvsrg85nbpa7iuvs73apua4y4rsxppw Replay btw

[solid frigate]

That OHKO is insane

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Protosynthesis Roaring Moon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera-Fire Koraidon on a critical hit: 168-198 (95.4 - 112.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Thats straight up unlucky

[timber falcon]

And it seems keanus team made it to stop 8 twice, sad I haven’t seen it in action properly yet

[solid frigate]

yeah

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Protosynthesis Roaring Moon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera-Fire Koraidon on a critical hit: 168-198 (96 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Correction, my Koraidon does not run 4 evs on hp

[timber falcon]

Ah ok

[charred saddle]

so yeah brady didnt know the spread. just reverse calc

[timber falcon]

I find regional spreads incredibly interesting

[graceful flare]

I asked a guy to make my koraidon conp ready and he just blocked me and stole it

[timber falcon]

Teams similar yet at the same time unique, like banded Rilla, AV shifu ect

[graceful flare]

I wasn't talking abt u

[timber falcon]

Unfortunate

[autumn vault]

Sorry

[graceful flare]

I aint gonna be able to use koraidon now

[timber falcon]

We can help though if u provide paste, or not if u wanna keep it a secret

[graceful flare]

Wym

[autumn vault]

Paste, from showdown which is not evil

[graceful flare]

Nah irs fine

[autumn vault]

Also for some reason Flame Charge Koraidon is very good

[timber falcon]

Sorry if u find this topic insensitive towards ur situation, but I genuinely can’t fathom why someone would do smth like that

As in block someone and steal their team

If a paste has been sent, they could’ve used it anyway

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125639994 I am super close to 1500s

[next stump]

what was the calyrex doing protecting on that turn lol

that dude threw away his decent spot

[autumn vault]

Idk, its a 1300 player

[timber falcon]

wait wait, instead of doubling koraidon they protect and swap the fastest mon the field?

[timber falcon]

last push

[autumn vault]

I am battling a 1500s player rn

Finally

[next stump]

congrats 🙂

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125642945-45q2nsxecn3g8qsmuf1kd64myvqpilepw

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/sui-siu-ronaldo-football-portugal-gif-25997537

gz

[autumn vault]

Thanks, i am planning to eventually in double restricteds to use Zekrom and Kyogre and climb to 1400s

If Zekrom is "not great" then use an amazing pokemon with good synergy with it

[tawdry urchin]

Should I add weazing to me team because of it's ability?

[autumn vault]

No

All i am saying

[tawdry urchin]

._.

[solid frigate]

pfft

[timber falcon]

depends

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

oh man ladder going up without me

[autumn vault]

I was aiming somewhere where it wasnt my range

I was temporarily blind

[tawdry urchin]

Well tbh I think I should because it would deel with pranker poekmon, Farigiraf, Terapagos, ext

[timber falcon]

i need to soon step up my game and get lunala nack to top 500

[autumn vault]

You have other ways to deal with them, not just Weezing

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-scared-hand-shaking-shivering-gif-24524523

[tawdry urchin]

How?

[timber falcon]

i support the wheezing plan

i think its cool

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[timber falcon]

no other particular reason

[autumn vault]

I have given up on trying to help you

[solid frigate]

just taunt it 🙂

But then again,Just kill it its simple

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

[autumn vault]

If you actually listened and then i would

[timber falcon]

oh yeah btw u can use tinkaton

FO can hit whilst farig is there

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Tinkaton is actually good

[tawdry urchin]

Farigiraf's ability prevents that if user has prankser and taunt isn't going to do anything for Terapagos

[timber falcon]

agreed ive seen it. mold breaker caught me off guard as i tried stop with farig

[solid frigate]

Dude that just Fari

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-urshifu-single-strike-form-pokemon-journeys-gif-24747091

murder it tbh

[solid frigate]

Exactly

Urshifu Dark just Kills Fari

[tawdry urchin]

I'm using rapid strike...

[autumn vault]

Like i said before, i have given up on trying to help them, they never listen and just worry about things they shouldn't worry about

[timber falcon]

deletes from game/force tera

[timber falcon]

show team

[solid frigate]

252+ Atk Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 244 HP / 132 Def Farigiraf on a critical hit: 236-282 (104.4 - 124.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Heck or just use Incineroar

[timber falcon]

gotta help nevertheless (at least i will) cause drago and tofu somehow didnt give up on me

[harsh depot]

Heya all! How goes?

[solid frigate]

because you actually listen.

[autumn vault]

Its going great

[solid frigate]

Switched up my Terapagos Strat

[autumn vault]

I hit 1500 today, my new peak

[timber falcon]

ok, 1st of we gotta fix those evs

[tawdry urchin]

on what mon?

[next stump]

this team just folds to Incineroar + Farigarif lead

[timber falcon]

all except shifu

[harsh depot]

I’m surprised you guys haven’t given up on me either tbh. But glad to hear we’re doing well

[next stump]

one easy-ish solution is considering imprison indeedee

[solid frigate]

you actually listen to me and the others,Heck you beat my dawn Wings Necrozma Team,thats a Improvement

[autumn vault]

Thats because you actually listen and take advice unlike 1UK3

[tawdry urchin]

Oh you have no idea how many incins my calyrex has 1 shoted turn one

[solid frigate]

about that.... He is insist on EF

[solid frigate]

FOCUS SASH EXISTS

[next stump]

great you knock out the incin and they get a free switch in to their trick room sweeper

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125647226 Btw i beat this guy, again

[timber falcon]

bro u got redirection

[next stump]

like if calyrex-ice comes in you just lose

[harsh depot]

I’m amazed I called the follow me from Ogerpon in that match tbh

[solid frigate]

yeah thats a good thing,you have improved,unlike certain someone

[tawdry urchin]

Thats why I have clefairy on my team

[autumn vault]

Would you consider me as a good player?

[next stump]

so then why are you complaining about farigarif if you’re now saying that matchup is easy?

[solid frigate]

Better than Me of course

[solid frigate]

idfk honestly

[autumn vault]

Idk he says weird stuff

So like, it isn't new

[next stump]

if you’re so desperate that you want weezing but you’re saying the matchup is free with caly + clef

pick a side

[harsh depot]

Why are we referring to 1UK3 as if they’re not here?

[timber falcon]

got a bit to go but yeah

[solid frigate]

does not listen to us

[autumn vault]

true

[timber falcon]

im just being a jerk u doing great

[autumn vault]

And complains about stuff they should not complain about

[harsh depot]

I see

[tawdry urchin]

[solid frigate]

Basically the 3 horsemens of not listening to us

1UK3 , I'm I'm I'm and Corny

[harsh depot]

Oh don’t get me started on Corny. But yeah

[autumn vault]

true

Bro insists on araquanid

[solid frigate]

and what do they have in Common? Using Calyrex wrongly

[tawdry urchin]

How?

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/7acd52ff372b34a1 @tawdry urchin

[autumn vault]

And being noobs

[solid frigate]

your team is folded by Incin

Like Seriously Folded by it

[tawdry urchin]

How?

[timber falcon]

these are some casual sets that i think are step one for ur better team

[solid frigate]

your Idiocy is actually real.

[autumn vault]

Look at the team

[tawdry urchin]

Why did you give indeede trick room?

[timber falcon]

2. i see an incin answer that works in the team

[timber falcon]

oh ignore that

[mighty stump]

Just to be completely fair

[harsh depot]

Oh boy

[mighty stump]

Corny’s 6 did appear in high elo

[tawdry urchin]

Bruh inicn is a joke when it come to my team. Calyrex just 1 shots it so idk what your on about

[solid frigate]

Incin would always Survives it.

[harsh depot]

Hi Tofu. Just mad at myself in that one tbh

[timber falcon]

i would usee deedee+ursh to force tera/KO

[tawdry urchin]

It dosen't

[solid frigate]

how then

[tawdry urchin]

Tera fighting tera blast

[autumn vault]

You are using a valuable resource to do that

[solid frigate]

ok then youdie to Flutter Mane

[autumn vault]

I reccomend to have answers that are not tera reliant

[timber falcon]

secondly have u thought of most tera types?

[autumn vault]

Shadow Ball and Moonblast both do, tera or no tera

[solid frigate]

Flutter Mane always Go For Speed Booster

[tawdry urchin]

dosen't matter, the resistance to dark can help and it 1 shots blood moon

[timber falcon]

i would make deedee fairy type

[autumn vault]

So can incineroar counters

[solid frigate]

84 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow: 376-448 (214.8 - 256%) -- guaranteed OHKO
84 SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow: 252-300 (144 - 171.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Speed Booster Flutter just Murders and don't get me started on Tera Fairy Moonblast

[tawdry urchin]

*Follow me left the chat

[timber falcon]

i also do think watershifu is a massive part for ur team

[mighty stump]

[autumn vault]

What if you don't have it?

[solid frigate]

Gleam?

[timber falcon]

remember instead of always caly, u have shifu-torn

[autumn vault]

Then it will die

[autumn vault]

can i join you on the sidelines?

[tawdry urchin]

Oh I allways have it

[autumn vault]

[timber falcon]

@tawdry urchin u getting what im saying?

[mighty stump]

[harsh depot]

Same here please

[autumn vault]

Imagine if you don't, then what are you going to do?

[solid frigate]

ok prepare to get folded by Gholdengo

[autumn vault]

Die

[solid frigate]

tera steel dengo btw

[solid frigate]

yeah same

[timber falcon]

bruh what is this constant yapping

[tawdry urchin]

fr

[harsh depot]

@mighty stump you busy at the moment? Was thinking of doing some laddering in VC

[autumn vault]

[timber falcon]

ur part of it

im tryna help u out

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[tawdry urchin]

yeah ik

[autumn vault]

And me? I think so

[mighty stump]

Brain is off atm

[harsh depot]

All good no worries

[timber falcon]

yeah ngl u guys are debating and arguing instead of improving'

[mighty stump]

Im just here to watch the show

[solid frigate]

@harsh depot i'm also joining you at the slidelines now

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-pouting-popcorn-disappointed-gif-25101592

[timber falcon]

did u take the sets?

[autumn vault]

Probably not

[mighty stump]

I’m almost sure I mentioned doing 1-1 hypotheticals are kinda how you get in a loop

[timber falcon]

yeah and thats what happening

[mighty stump]

Figure out another method of striking the conversation

[tawdry urchin]

Not yet cus idk what trick room is going to do ( That and reliboom's tera is the only thing you chnaged )

[autumn vault]

I hate the side lines, can i join you on the slide lines?

[autumn vault]

I knew it

[harsh depot]

I’m gonna make some coffee then try some battles

[solid frigate]

yeah sure

[timber falcon]

look at the evs

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-doing-hi-slide-dm-single-gif-22122320

[timber falcon]

also if u dint like tr replace with psychic for some decent damage

[mighty stump]

Send paste

[autumn vault]

Slide on the lines

[mighty stump]

I’ll take a look

[solid frigate]

it does nice shit

[timber falcon]

ill leave this to tofu

[tawdry urchin]

you gave relliboom 5 speed...

[timber falcon]

bro u gave it max

[mighty stump]

relliboom

[timber falcon]

rilla shouldnt have max speed for no reason

[autumn vault]

Everyone is in the side lines now

[mighty stump]

Paste where

[autumn vault]

🍿

[mighty stump]

Before I just leave

[solid frigate]

he never sends it

[mighty stump]

Oh

[willow vault]

I’m just trying to catch up I missed most of the stuff

[mighty stump]

Bye

[autumn vault]

Its true

[bold geode]

Tofu, Wolfe is talking shit about Emboar

[mighty stump]

Lol

[solid frigate]

at least its not the worst

[mighty stump]

Okay but he talked the most shit about Meganium

[timber falcon]

this was sent

[mighty stump]

So who cares

[bold geode]

Lmao

[autumn vault]

1UK3 we can't help if you don't show us your team

[solid frigate]

like the paste

[autumn vault]

The last thing i will say before i stop helping you

[mighty stump]

EVs are wrong

[timber falcon]

predictable

[mighty stump]

And some are missing 4 EVs

[solid frigate]

its just insulting to give it Leaf Guard and Bad Movepool

[autumn vault]

I mean who doesn't

[tawdry urchin]

Yeah and look, 4 speed

[timber falcon]

i just took a munchstats set to get u started

[solid frigate]

4 Speed is enough cuz You need fucking Bulk

[mighty stump]

Listening is pretty important in these scenarios

[willow vault]

🍿

[timber falcon]

oh i do smth wrong?

[tawdry urchin]

mmm ok but still what is trick room indeede for?

[mighty stump]

You pretty much can explain as well as anybody but if one doesn’t really want to approach with a learning mindset and has the wrong attitude then it’s kinda difficult

[solid frigate]

Imprison Other's Trick Room

[timber falcon]

as i said u can replace it to psychic

[autumn vault]

To counter tr

[solid frigate]

or just reverse TR

[autumn vault]

Since you "struggle" a lot with tr

[timber falcon]

theres already after u clefairy#

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-26163987

[autumn vault]

[solid frigate]

so there is no sort of necessary need for Indeedee

[timber falcon]

psyspam

[dusty gate]

[bold geode]

News flash: I will never be old enough

[solid frigate]

then again,like Psychic and Psyshock is just better

[bold geode]

Or mature enough

[autumn vault]

News Flash: Same here Pedro Stan

[solid frigate]

you don't want to have both spread moves against a Wide Guard user

[tawdry urchin]

[dusty gate]

Immortality?

[timber falcon]

yk i give up, i realise when giving advice i tend to improve mons instead of looking for what could be better replacements

ill sit this out

and learn

[bold geode]

Yeah it's like the balloon thing lol

[autumn vault]

Lets all sit this out

[willow vault]

🪑

[autumn vault]

I will share this 🍿 as a sign of my generosity

[solid frigate]

[mighty stump]

• As previously mentioned by Dillon, the team folds to Incineroar + Farigiraf leads
• Urshifu-RS, Indeedee-F, Tornadus, and Caly-S are all missing 4 EVs
• Rillaboom is EV'd wrong, and will not be able to capitalise off AV, act as a good switch in, and lose longevity overall.
• Indeedee-F can easily assist in Trick Room denial, and having the option against Tailwind Mirrors can be very helpful at times. It also has the wrong EVs. The main investment should be Bold + Def particularly with Psychic Seed already boosting it's SpDef, + being naturally higher than its base Def
• Cringe nickname on Clefairy, EVs should be better split/calced for more optimal bulk especially with Eviolite
• Tornadus should be running Focus Sash if it's going Max Max. Mental Herb is only for sets that are bulkier and are at risk at being Taunted by a faster Tornadus in the Mirror
• Loses to Incin + Flutter Mane type set of Caly-S

[timber falcon]

"cringe nickname on clefairy"

[solid frigate]

that Nickname part

[mighty stump]

Not to mention a severe lack of understanding of the fundamentals/knowledge of common sets while trying to then debate said sets with pretty ignorant approaches

[autumn vault]

This is why i respect you a lot

[tawdry urchin]

"Cringe nickname on Clefairy"

[mighty stump]

Also Torn-Ogre/CIR teams/Miraidon cause of Incin-Farig

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

[autumn vault]

I cant stop laughing rn

[bold geode]

Sigh

[autumn vault]

[solid frigate]

i am controlling myself for laughing

[tawdry urchin]

Why?

[bold geode]

I can tell cringe nickname was all we got out of that

[timber falcon]

fr lmao

[willow vault]

Yeah it was

[solid frigate]

yep

[autumn vault]

I am still laughgong LMAO

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/southpark-bestof-baby-kick-gif-4834772

[bold geode]

Instead of idk
The slew of other shit

[solid frigate]

i would just name it Kirby because its just looks like him

[mighty stump]

Well I'm glad we all focused on what's important

[timber falcon]

yw

[autumn vault]

Now lets go back to the sidelines laughing

[mighty stump]

With full information regarding the problem, it's a pretty easy fix. Just depends on the user.

At the end of the day it's their team

[autumn vault]

I have stopped laughing atleast

[tawdry urchin]

And what would that fix be?

[autumn vault]

💀

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

oml

[solid frigate]

did you just ignored the entire thing

[autumn vault]

My god i need a therapist, give me one i lost too many braincells

[bold geode]

Exactly my point

[solid frigate]

I'll ask my frined for it

[autumn vault]

its sarcasm

[willow vault]

[autumn vault]

But seriously i need a break

[tawdry urchin]

[solid frigate]

agree

[bold geode]

At this point, even therapy can't help some of us

[timber falcon]

pretty sure your sarcasm was sarcasmed by his sarcasm

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-marios-gif-18800279

[autumn vault]

It can't help me, i am doomed to have bad mental health thanks to them

[mighty stump]

Just move around the EVs and make sure to invest your 4 EVs. Common sets for Rillaboom are available on Pikalytics which would have more value than a current max max no bulk set. Indeedee-F's and Clefairy's fix has already been mentioned.

Or Munchstats

[timber falcon]

i kinda feel like meta had poisoned my creativity

[solid frigate]

my brain lost braincells

[timber falcon]

is it just me?

[autumn vault]

My mental health lost my health

[willow vault]

I agree

[solid frigate]

i think i also did but then again i go with something that can surive shit

[mighty stump]

Lmao here is a team that went 2-7 in Stockholm

[timber falcon]

W

[willow vault]

But then I used Palkia accepting it wasn’t good and now I have more fun, kinda

[autumn vault]

The more i look at it, the worse it gets

[tawdry urchin]

Why dose those 4 evs matter so much? I'm not even concurned about the reliboom

[autumn vault]

And Lugia is D tier imo

[solid frigate]

Wtf is the Gengar

and also no Scarf Eruption Typhlosion?

[timber falcon]

this looks like a singles team tbh

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-ghost-death-gif-27106641

[willow vault]

It’s an interesting team

[autumn vault]

Sorry OTOT

[mighty stump]

Woops

Wrong ping

[autumn vault]

Oh, i see

[mighty stump]

Why would you waste free stats? Why wouldn't you want to optimise your team?

[autumn vault]

I was super confused

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-let-bro-cook-who-who-let-bro-cook-dont-let-him-cook-again-gif-13506486571730006439

[autumn vault]

Or you (sorry)

[timber falcon]

irony

[willow vault]

[autumn vault]

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

[little plank]

So what do you guys use as a counter to koraidon when running terapgosa?

[mighty stump]

Rank 7 JPN used Dondozo

I used TWave Flutter

[little plank]

Seems like he is quite annoying to deal with along with zamazenta

[willow vault]

I mean comfey forces out Tera which is good

[timber falcon]

as a koraidon used to be user, clefairy worked agaisnt me pretty well, along with FO pressure

[mighty stump]

Watershifu can also help pin in a scenario using Flutter to force Teras > Teraform Zero into Surging Strikes to deny Sun and KO Koraidon

Dondozo also works against Zamazenta

[timber falcon]

yawn?

[mighty stump]

No

Unaware Dozogiri

But defense boosting + Body Press

[timber falcon]

ah ok

[solid frigate]

rain Dance Tornadus and forcing Tera

[little plank]

Hmmm so should I replace my torn and waterfu for dozogiri?

[mighty stump]

If you have Torn + Rain Dance it should be alright though

[solid frigate]

depends on you

[tawdry urchin]

I swear you guys are allways talking to each in this chat 24 hours a day 💀 Like yall are allways onlines talking to eachother I swear

[mighty stump]

Could be just a missing line

[solid frigate]

can confirm its decent

[timber falcon]

bro focus on the lesson at hand

[autumn vault]

💀

[mighty stump]

Aight chill

[little plank]

Yeah I'm currently running the rental from on victory road with smeargle with some changes trying to see how I like the turtle

[autumn vault]

What are you talking about

[timber falcon]

red card

[willow vault]

We are all from different time zones so usually there are multiple of us on at the same time, also we play comp pokemon and like discussing stuff

[autumn vault]

This

I will go now before i lose my sanity even more

[mighty stump]

Does not really fit on Terapagos teams, but Pelipper tends to wall Koraidon handily.

[harsh depot]

I come back from coffee and some Primarina Raids, and I'm scared to read up.

[timber falcon]

guys do u think that lugia will have better chances in doubles restricted?

[autumn vault]

Yes, i think so

[willow vault]

I’m making dinner so I’m not losing to much sanity rn

[little plank]

I'll keep trying out torn and urshifu for now sitting at 1550 on showdown with it so it's not terrible just seems I have bad matchups into Zamazenta and koraidon

[tawdry urchin]

Like 3 people here has VGC in there name. I think I know they like discussing it.

[timber falcon]

do people like, enjoy coffee?

[mighty stump]

Try Dozogiri stuff, see if that works out.

[solid frigate]

i mean should i replace torn with Pelipper and use Urshifu Dark Instead of Urshifu Water?

[harsh depot]

I like coffee. Hell, my bf's last name is Coffey, so I'd say I love it.

[solid frigate]

Lmao

[mighty stump]

Just more spitballing than anything

[tawdry urchin]

[little plank]

I really like decorate on smeargle with jungle healing lol

[willow vault]

And yet you ask why we are are all here talking all the time

[timber falcon]

does it not just taste bitter though

or is it smth that u have to get used to

[solid frigate]

just don't know if its worth it

[autumn vault]

I never tried coffee but i wouldn't judge it without trying

[mighty stump]

Good coffee isn't just bitter

[timber falcon]

oh?

[mighty stump]

That's burnt coffee

[timber falcon]

i see

[harsh depot]

I like mine with creamer, even when done right. I can't stand normal coffee

[mighty stump]

But take coffee however you like it. Black isn't the only way

[willow vault]

But also you might just not like coffee, not everyone does

[timber falcon]

so how would u describe the taste of "good" coffee?

[harsh depot]

Exactly. Don't force yourself to like something you don't

[willow vault]

Like I know I dislike coffee so I don’t drink it

[timber falcon]

im just interested

[mighty stump]

I personally like mine low-acid/full-bodied. So to me my coffee tastes really smooth, slightly bitter, but more like dark chocolate tasting

and sometimes nutty

[harsh depot]

I love dark chocolate Tofu, that sounds like a dream

[mighty stump]

When it's cold it's also less intense

[timber falcon]

sounds like coffee ive never tried hmm

[bold geode]

I looked away for a second, how are we on coffee

[timber falcon]

idk why tofu brought it up

[mighty stump]

So you taste the lighter notes, so it's more nutty/caramelly and a bit more "crisp" and refreshing

[harsh depot]

Cause I said I came back from getting coffee to chaos

[willow vault]

More interesting conversation

[bold geode]

What you got rn?

[harsh depot]

And it went to coffee afterwards

[mighty stump]

I just like good coffee

I avoid it in the morning though

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125670239-uhvurpvsl8ejry48i5y6uy2ayh885iapw oof, got lucky

[timber falcon]

wait people add stuff like actual chocolate to coffee?

[mighty stump]

You can, that's called a mocha

[timber falcon]

hmm i see

[forest arrow]

Mocha coffee is good

[mighty stump]

But different beans have different flavour notes

[forest arrow]

Drinking it now

[bold geode]

The only thing I like from jank ass Starbucks is a mocha frappucino

[mighty stump]

So depending on where they're from, how they're roasted, how you prepare them

[forest arrow]

I use beans and the strainer all the jazz

[harsh depot]

So I have my own espresso machine, and I can make homemade mocha lattes. I love them as a treat

[forest arrow]

I grind my beans and stuff

[harsh depot]

Oh wow! Fancier than me.

[forest arrow]

It just taste a lot better

[harsh depot]

That's fair

[timber falcon]

so coffee is more than just some bitter water huh

news to me

[willow vault]

I’m learning a lot about coffee

[bold geode]

You have a Grinder

[forest arrow]

Shhhhh

[timber falcon]

same

[harsh depot]

I love how I bring up my bf's last name and competitive chat is now coffee chat

[bold geode]

Lmao

[forest arrow]

[mighty stump]

So for example, Javanese coffee beans would be very rich/smooth and almost like a malty/chocolatey flavour, while Sumatra beans would be more spiced like cinnamony. Even though both beans stem from Indonesia

[bold geode]

"I told you that in secret"

[bold geode]

You ever have the lemur shit coffee?

[mighty stump]

It's not lemur

[timber falcon]

i was more intrigued about the fact when u said u came back from coffee, almost like a leisure

[mighty stump]

It's a civet

and yes.

Don't insult kopi luwak

Lol

[bold geode]

What's a civet exactly then

[willow vault]

Same

[solid frigate]

i just don't drink Coffee

[harsh depot]

That's fair. It also helps me with focusing cause my ADHD is awful

[willow vault]

Neither

[bold geode]

So what you're saying is the literal shit coffee isn't shit coffee

[mighty stump]

Google it

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125671715 That was very close

[solid frigate]

i have ADHD but i don't drink it lol

[harsh depot]

That's fair. It doesn't work for everyone

[mighty stump]

It's not shit, no

[willow vault]

It just looks like a weird raccoon to me

[bold geode]

Wow, got their ass

[timber falcon]

seems to be what it is

raccoon

[autumn vault]

Yup

[bold geode]

That dog looks weird, must be Spanish

[autumn vault]

An ordinary Raccoon

[autumn vault]

I'm from Spain and i don't think it's from spain, doesn't look that spanish

Looks more African

[timber falcon]

wait what i wasnt looking at the civet context

[solid frigate]

yeah

[autumn vault]

And from the african savana

[mighty stump]

The biggest issue with civet coffee is the industrialisation of it

and leads to bad coffee

[timber falcon]

do people eat civet poop for coffee?

[mighty stump]

To me personally, its cultural

the good stuff is alright, and the novelty is nice

[timber falcon]

or digeseted coffee beans

[bold geode]

Oh so they don't process the shit right or something?
How do you even turn animal shit into coffee

[timber falcon]

cherries*

[mighty stump]

The coffee beans are partially digested and pass through the civet, and then you pick the beans out and process them

[timber falcon]

i wonder who tf found that out

[mighty stump]

People believed they would pick the best coffee beans/cherries and only eat the ripest ones

[timber falcon]

oh so thats the origin huh

[mighty stump]

Do you wanta real answer?

[timber falcon]

why not

[mighty stump]

Colonialism

[willow vault]

You can ask the same question for why someone first tried getting cows milk

[timber falcon]

colonists found it out?

[willow vault]

That makes a lot of sense

[mighty stump]

The Dutch colonised Indonesia and had our farmers grow coffee. Farmers took to brewing coffee from civet poop collected at the plantations.

[willow vault]

Huh

[solid frigate]

we are talking about Politics+History eh?

[willow vault]

Yes

[harsh depot]

Off topic, but I say this battle went well overall
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125673903-vc77izm8ientpbwv82uwl85dv5dvn03pw

[timber falcon]

more on topic tbf lmao