#competitive_discussion

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timber falcon
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got that redirection too

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yeah it was an imprison set

mighty stump
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Pretty sure they gave up and TR is just a TM for Indeedee now

long narwhal
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Can someone help me fix my team? Dm me

solid frigate
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welp,time to ask someone to trade this-

timber falcon
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beat swsh dlc ez

solid frigate
timber falcon
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oh that explains the no calys ig

solid frigate
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plus i have a friend who has so many Kubfus

timber falcon
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oh thats good then

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i just hoard one of each legend i can get my hands on lol

solid frigate
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yeah tru

ancient crow
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apparently some doode had fine results with this team

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still having a hard time wrapping my head around it

long narwhal
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Can someone help me fix my team? Dm me

timber falcon
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Haven’t actually seen it in sv very nice

solid frigate
timber falcon
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I see the idea behind it

ancient crow
timber falcon
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Is it the global?

ancient crow
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the eclipse one?

timber falcon
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The team

timber falcon
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I just grinded dynamax adventures

ancient crow
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the event one, apparently they distributed the alola trio shiny?

timber falcon
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I didn’t own a ds so I wouldn’t know

timber falcon
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Oh and it’s a code one

long narwhal
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Is there something that can replace kingambit?

timber falcon
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Depends on what gambit does

ancient crow
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and why would you want to replace it?

long narwhal
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Idk hes ugly

timber falcon
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Bruh

long narwhal
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I dont like using ugly mons

ancient crow
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(as far as I know)

timber falcon
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Hey hey no negativity

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It spreads

long narwhal
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Lol

ancient crow
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ow, sorry

ancient crow
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m I supposed to use dragon cheer twice?

timber falcon
long narwhal
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Its bc i rlly want to use skeledirge but idk if he can replace drgonite or kingambit

solid frigate
timber falcon
timber falcon
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But wouldn’t moongus be better for tr

ancient crow
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it kinda makes sense

solid frigate
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true

timber falcon
solid frigate
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my Terapagos Team Incin is AV Incin,I can bring it here

solid frigate
long narwhal
ancient crow
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It kinda relies a bit on luck

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(specially with reshiram running moves that miss a lot)

timber falcon
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I’m pretty sure dragon cheer lasts untill they swap out

timber falcon
long narwhal
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Its garchomp, annihilape goldengo, dragoniye volcarona kingambit i want to add skele

foggy lodge
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Whimsicott is meta again wujuu

timber falcon
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Torn still gaps

solid frigate
chrome knot
timber falcon
solid frigate
long narwhal
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What is reg G

ancient crow
solid frigate
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Incineroar is not ugly

solid frigate
chrome knot
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furry^

timber falcon
foggy lodge
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The only "ugly" pokemon from by example the 12 pokemon is Amoonguss imo

ancient crow
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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But i think it's design wants to he ugly so yeah it's a good design

long narwhal
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Do you guys know something abt cobblemon? Its pixelmon but either better models

ancient crow
timber falcon
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No idea what cobblemon is

solid frigate
timber falcon
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Is Lacey a regular here? poliwhirlkek

solid frigate
ancient crow
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I was indeed surprised on how good her team was

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(I also got rejected by her after the battle : c)

long narwhal
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Ok só basically is all gens combined with out some sv mons and no terra

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Minecraft

solid frigate
long narwhal
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And my team is ferrathorn garchomp volcarona arceus annihilape and skele should i change something? I am bad at teambuilding

south shuttle
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Ultra necrozma is so busted

timber falcon
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Arceus huh

solid frigate
ancient crow
solid frigate
timber falcon
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Probs link battle

ancient crow
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light that burns the sky was a cool move

south shuttle
timber falcon
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Or casual

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U can’t

solid frigate
south shuttle
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It’s signature move is too good

timber falcon
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Sadly it’s no longer available since switch

south shuttle
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“Light That Burns the Sky” is so sick

long narwhal
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Whats the better game in guys guys opinion violet or scarlet

timber falcon
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Scarlet

south shuttle
long narwhal
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Same but my brother wanted violet

ancient crow
timber falcon
south shuttle
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So z moves Mega and tera

solid frigate
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nah i rather not

timber falcon
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Bro wants 0 balance lol

solid frigate
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lmao

ancient crow
long narwhal
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I hate terra

ancient crow
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I actually think tera is the superior mechanic

south shuttle
timber falcon
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Tera is based ngl

long narwhal
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Wish there were megas in sv

south shuttle
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Still unbalanced

timber falcon
solid frigate
ancient crow
south shuttle
solid frigate
timber falcon
solid frigate
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Megas are too Unbalanced

long narwhal
long narwhal
ancient crow
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all the problems that I had with tera are no longer once open-sheets come into play

timber falcon
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miraidon is good, not “unbalanced” I’ve had my fair share of miraidon Ws

ancient crow
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they gotta implement it in-game at some point

molten oasis
solid frigate
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dude if i have a Nickel of saying Primal Groudon and Mega Salamence runing around in VGC 2016 i have ton of nickels

long narwhal
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Miraidon > koraidon ??

solid frigate
south shuttle
timber falcon
ancient crow
solid frigate
south shuttle
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Buff Zacian Please

timber falcon
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Miraidon is better than koriadon competetively so far

south shuttle
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I miss gen 8 Zacian

long narwhal
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I wan to start playing sv i only chose my starter how many hours did it take you guys to conplete the story??

south shuttle
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It was so balanced

molten oasis
timber falcon
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Gib now

molten oasis
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Til next month

timber falcon
solid frigate
molten oasis
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I can’t share the team cuz I want to take it to NAIC

solid frigate
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fair

timber falcon
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Makes sense

south shuttle
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🐕 🗡

ancient crow
timber falcon
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I disagree

long narwhal
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Can some help me get started to competitive pokemon?

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I dont know where to start

timber falcon
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I’ve tried balance koriadon and taking advantage of weather is still really beneficial, doesn’t have to be full on sun

south shuttle
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🐉 ⚡️ > 🐉 🥊?

timber falcon
# long narwhal Can some help me get started to competitive pokemon?

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
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also sure,Proto Spam is better than Quark Spam

But Miraidon's New Partners are so damn opressive

timber falcon
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Fr

long narwhal
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What is vgc

solid frigate
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Literally the Format we play

timber falcon
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Doubles

solid frigate
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Doubles 4v4

long narwhal
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I dont like doubles is there singles in sv?

solid frigate
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Battle Stadium Singles

ancient crow
long narwhal
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I am guessing it is a whole different meta or nah?

solid frigate
timber falcon
long narwhal
timber falcon
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Nope sorry

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Pins are for vgc im pretty sure

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Since it’s the official format

solid frigate
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wait does anyone have Dawn Wings Set i can see and reference?

timber falcon
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Omg the spatck on that thing is mental

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I didn’t know it was built like that

molten oasis
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Btw uh, Zac was not balanced in the past it was very very strong, it needed a nerf

solid frigate
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its trade HP for- wtf

molten oasis
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I think they hit it too hard

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Just nerfing bst I think would have been enough

timber falcon
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I think it’s where it should be

long narwhal
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For singles is ferrathorn garchomp volcarona arceus annihilape skele is good? ( pokemon showdown) or should i change something

timber falcon
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What format ?

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Cause idk about arceus

solid frigate
long narwhal
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I think its ubers nation dex or something

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Turtle good

solid frigate
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Terapagos Goated

south shuttle
timber falcon
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I have beef with it lol

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My koriadon team actually struggles with pagos

molten oasis
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Huh?

timber falcon
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And I hate it

long narwhal
south shuttle
long narwhal
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So is it good?

molten oasis
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Are you proto spamming by chance?

solid frigate
# timber falcon And I hate it

Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Power Herb
Ability: Prism Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moongeist Beam
  • Expanding Force
  • Meteor Beam
  • Tera Blast

I think of this-

timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
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Is Tera blast needed?

long narwhal
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Otot?

timber falcon
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Ok maybe not pagos, but it’s team mates

long narwhal
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Is it good?

timber falcon
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Is what good?

solid frigate
timber falcon
solid frigate
long narwhal
timber falcon
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And if farig dies, they FO spam me

timber falcon
molten oasis
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So uh, you wanna send this paste OTOT

timber falcon
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Mhm

solid frigate
long narwhal
# timber falcon Which one

For singles is ferrathorn garchomp volcarona arceus annihilape skele is good? ( pokemon showdown) or should i change something

timber falcon
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the team actually got mr very far

solid frigate
timber falcon
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then for some odd reason i started playing like doodoo and the progress was lost

south shuttle
timber falcon
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got this far then fell off by my own mistakes

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73GXE not 70

molten oasis
timber falcon
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as i said, i started playing like dooddo

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my positioning was incredibly bad

molten oasis
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That makes sense

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Was gonna say amoonguss is key for that mu

timber falcon
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i always brought it at the wrong momentos

solid frigate
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unless the turtle has Sleep Talk,Amoonguss is very important

timber falcon
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but at the end of the day ik the team can work

solid frigate
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and thats why i have Cresselia-

timber falcon
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oh id hate that lol

dapper crag
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Move: Lunar Blessing

Each Pokemon on the user's side restores 1/4 of its maximum HP, rounded half up, and has its status condition cured.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

solid frigate
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i can remove Sleep lol

molten oasis
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Kek

solid frigate
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and since i have Safety Googles on Cress

molten oasis
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I’m calling in sick in work, I’m so fucked lmao

molten oasis
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But I have a high school reunion I am not missing

solid frigate
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Cresselia @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

  • Moonblast
  • Lunar Blessing
  • Icy Wind
  • Helping Hand

This Cresselia if not unchecked,its EVIL

solid frigate
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well Unless incin but i have Urshifu

timber falcon
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and even if checked its probs not going down easily

molten oasis
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No terapagos match is easy

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That thing is pretty hard to take down

timber falcon
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depends

solid frigate
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Urshifu is for Incin Shenanigins

timber falcon
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with my lunala team i consistently beat pagos

solid frigate
timber falcon
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my principle is to murder all its friends and force 1v1 with durshifu lul

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works iterally every time

solid frigate
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LOL

long narwhal
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Back

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I was eating

solid frigate
long narwhal
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For singles is ferrathorn garchomp volcarona arceus annihilape skele is good? ( pokemon showdown) or should i change something

timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
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i reckon i can force it out fast enough

solid frigate
timber falcon
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or take it out of the match with the moongus/flutter that sits with shifu at the back

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rilla never seeong the light of day againt pagos lol

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wouldnt wanna contribute healing

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anyways time to transfer lunala to swsh where i max it out

solid frigate
timber falcon
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why imprison on deedee

solid frigate
long narwhal
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For singles is ferrathorn garchomp volcarona arceus annihilape skele is good? ( pokemon showdown) or should i change something pls help

solid frigate
timber falcon
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it doesnt have tr though

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what is it locking?

solid frigate
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I FORGOT-

timber falcon
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happens

solid frigate
timber falcon
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apart from that, all looks pretty standard

long narwhal
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Whata tr

solid frigate
timber falcon
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except for the dawn wings

long narwhal
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Is it rlly that important to bave trick room?

solid frigate
timber falcon
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i still dk how i feel about no status with no choice items/av

solid frigate
solid frigate
long narwhal
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It makes the slow mon atack first right?

solid frigate
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yes

timber falcon
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i wouldnt worry abt tera blast tbh

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protect looks better

solid frigate
long narwhal
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Can someone help with my team dm

solid frigate
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just show it in here with Showdown Pokepaste-

long narwhal
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How do i do that in iphone

timber falcon
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do u play pokemon showdown?

solid frigate
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it should be in showdown where is said send it to pokepaste

There,just show us the link

timber falcon
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Spoils of war

solid frigate
timber falcon
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I think I’ll make my next team based of a leg that can be shiny

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Any ideas?

solid frigate
timber falcon
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Yep

solid frigate
timber falcon
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Hmmm

long narwhal
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I acnt find swnd to pokepast

timber falcon
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Oh wait

long narwhal
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Is it below battle and team builder?

timber falcon
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Lugia is there right?

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Oh oh oh oh, I can’t hunt lugia

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Gotta find some1 with shield

long narwhal
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Found it

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Ignore terra

solid frigate
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wtf is that Garchomp set

long narwhal
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Imagine it does not exist

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A dude helped me make it

timber falcon
long narwhal
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Bc its for cobblemon so there is almsot no sv pokemon

solid frigate
timber falcon
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Jolly garchomp? I was adamant

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Gotta have that damage

long narwhal
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Rain barreskewda is a problem for me

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Before it had gliscor instead of ferrathorn

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Do u think ferra is better

timber falcon
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For that MU yes

solid frigate
long narwhal
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Bc gliscor wouls make it weak to ice

long narwhal
timber falcon
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Match up

long narwhal
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Ty

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I was thking on clodsire too but idk

molten oasis
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What are we discussing?

timber falcon
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Singles team

solid frigate
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and idek man-

molten oasis
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I don’t play singles soo

long narwhal
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Since when doubles is soo important

molten oasis
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Because it’s the standard format

long narwhal
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I did not know it was played

solid frigate
molten oasis
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VGC is the official format

solid frigate
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like literally VGC become a thing in gen 4

molten oasis
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Which is doubles

solid frigate
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mhm

long narwhal
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In my head less than 1% of ppl played that

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Maybe bc i play pixelmon servers

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I have violet but only chose my starter and went to beat up that girl thats your rival i think

solid frigate
long narwhal
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In violet ferrathorn is in the game?

atomic mural
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he never was in sv

solid frigate
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Like Most of the Showdown YT are Singles That makes the Illusuion of it

solid frigate
long narwhal
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And is arceus in violet?

solid frigate
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Fs in the Chat for Ferro

solid frigate
long narwhal
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Whats that

solid frigate
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Pokemon Home-

long narwhal
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I acnt use him against players?

solid frigate
long narwhal
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Brej

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Is there any money that can replace him for my team and ferrathorn

solid frigate
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thats why isaid if you want to use a Normal type Legendary

Just use Terapagos

long narwhal
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Is he replacing ferrathorn or arceus

molten oasis
solid frigate
solid frigate
long narwhal
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And what do i use instead of ferra?

solid frigate
long narwhal
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Ok

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How many hours dors it take to finish violet?

foggy lodge
long narwhal
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I am in the part where i find miraidon

charred saddle
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whole stuff up to pecharunt?

foggy lodge
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It doesn't even have the lips to kiss

atomic mural
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did you not see the image?

charred saddle
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9 hours or so to miraidon. + 4 hour for ogerpon. + 2 hour for BM ursa + paradox. + 4-5 hours for terapagos + 2 hours for pecharunt

charred saddle
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u think oger is that fast? poliwhirlkek

timber falcon
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Flutter learning moonblast at 84 is criminal I tell u

pearl wind
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i did just oger in 2:40

timber falcon
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Criminal

charred saddle
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tbh its around 2 hours minimal, but like if u finish the base game its lvl 70 and its annoyING

pearl wind
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yeye we want baby lvl 20 oger sit

charred saddle
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yeye

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btw that is just an estimation of what i usually do without full focus speedrun

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since i usually study watching lectures or do something else while doing the run

rustic mountain
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is grasspon the only one to not have won a regional

charred saddle
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rockpon has won?

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oh the last regional yeah nvm

molten oasis
molten oasis
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True

south shuttle
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Is eternatus any good?

autumn vault
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It is good just not amazing

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Gastrodon (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Storm Drain
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water

  • Helping Hand
  • Stomping Tantrum
  • Liquidation
  • Skitter Smack cough what
rustic mountain
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yea i think grasspons best placement was top 4 or 8

charred saddle
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btw for some reason i met 2 similar eternatus set today in showdown

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both which has tinkaton in it

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and just spamming sludge wave

rustic mountain
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u met them? did u shake hands?

autumn vault
charred saddle
rustic mountain
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i feel like u yoink every emote i use lmao

autumn vault
rustic mountain
autumn vault
rustic mountain
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its like 5 bucks a month man haha

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but u do u

charred saddle
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quite an annoying team tbh, the team i was testing doesnt have like ground coverage really well

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thengot hit with eternatus tink

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i was like "what"

rustic mountain
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yea i didnt look at the video on it

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but i had seen it the other day on my feed

charred saddle
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oh yeah this was the team

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i kinda have a feeling its choice locked, but didnt know it was specs

molten oasis
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im gonna lose to this shit

charred saddle
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think the eam is quiet weak to CSR

molten oasis
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awesome

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first bo3 i lose to a fucking BANDED GASTRODON SLAPPED ON THE MIRAIDION TEAM

zealous badger
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wats the best counter for koraidon, mainly tera fire

forest arrow
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Just went full timer against Miraidon team but came out on top

craggy dagger
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water types ground types

forest arrow
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Holy crap dude

timber falcon
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ok so its very hard to get exact evs in sv, any tips?

forest arrow
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The vitamins are by 10’s and feathers are by 1’s

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So say you have 244 HP

timber falcon
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i know all of that

forest arrow
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I’d do 24 whatever and 4 feathers

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Then what are you confused about

timber falcon
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its just applying them to the exact numbers they are on showdown

forest arrow
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Simple addition?

molten oasis
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im not happy about that, that was super super lame

forest arrow
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Banded?!

molten oasis
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yea

forest arrow
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why?

molten oasis
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and he was all like "banded is really good" and i was like

craggy dagger
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i’m sorry how tf does that even work

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 423: Gastrodon
Types

Water/Ground

Abilities

Sticky Hold, Storm Drain, Sand Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

111/83/68/92/82/39

Total

475

molten oasis
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you slapped it on a fucking regional winning team stfu

craggy dagger
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it should be specs not band 😭

molten oasis
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did just beat a koraidon team tho so thats nice

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oh, effect spore fucking amoonguss

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not regenerator, which almost lost me the game

craggy dagger
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man the vgc community is on fire today

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like-
literally on fire-
burning down the world-

forest arrow
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fucking orthworm

craggy dagger
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it’s not a replay so it won’t show iirc if it’s-
oh nvm

timber falcon
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Bro these takes are too far

craggy dagger
south shuttle
timber falcon
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Mf says Tera fairy flutter shouldn’t exist whilst gunning for Nat dex gen 10

craggy dagger
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no way-o

south shuttle
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135 speed and spatk?

craggy dagger
timber falcon
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Look at the defence bro it has major flaws

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 383: Groudon
Type

Ground

Abilities

Drought

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/140/100/90/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Groudon-Primal

south shuttle
craggy dagger
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this shouldn’t exist-
150 atk-
140 defense and 100 hp

timber falcon
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Means it’s not an optimal team, flutter is very common

craggy dagger
south shuttle
craggy dagger
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i haven’t touched vgc in 6 months-
let alone pokemon poliwhirlkek

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i came back to a new format where nothing i had made works GengarSad

timber falcon
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Sounds like a skill issue to me

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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well, ok then

craggy dagger
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mmm?

molten oasis
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dude quit after i beat him g1

south shuttle
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Is yveltal in s/v?

timber falcon
forest arrow
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bro quit as soon as lunala died lol

craggy dagger
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good thing too tbh

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i cannot imagine a fairy aura tera fairy geomancy’d moonblast to the face

south shuttle
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Is calyrex ice better than shadow as a restricted?

molten oasis
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wait its bug arcahludon lol

craggy dagger
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bugcaludon

south shuttle
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Flying does the same but better

craggy dagger
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nah-
not with raging bolt

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around poliwhirlkek

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oh and miraidon now i guess…

molten oasis
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yeaaaa, bug on that team is really off

south shuttle
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If there are so many counters

forest arrow
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good g1 here drago

molten oasis
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tera steel>tera dragon

craggy dagger
south shuttle
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Doesn’t it die to any draco

forest arrow
#

Its still strong youd just rather not be weak that has showing in the format and bolt isnt going anywhere which rain teams are weak too

craggy dagger
#

yeah but tera flying and now you’re dead to raging bolt miraidon

#

since you said tera flying does it better-

forest arrow
#

Like everything else is already weak to electric why make another one weak to it

craggy dagger
#

exactly

molten oasis
#

close g2

forest arrow
#

holy cow that was close good stuff man

molten oasis
#

leaving zac on the field was the right call

forest arrow
#

indeed

molten oasis
#

alr, 1 more

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ig im kinda sharing the team, whatevs

forest arrow
#

kyogre, kyorge everywhereee

molten oasis
#

uhhhh, thats uhh, fuck

#

SYNTHESIS OGERPON???

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SALAC BERRY LANDO???

forest arrow
#

i cant see team sheets wtf-

molten oasis
#

Smeargle (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal

  • Decorate
  • Trick Room
  • Follow Me
  • Fake Out

Kyogre @ Life Orb
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water

  • Protect
  • Thunder
  • Origin Pulse
  • Water Spout

Incineroar (M) @ Aguav Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel

  • Fake Out
  • Flare Blitz
  • Helping Hand
  • Parting Shot

Landorus (M) @ Salac Berry
Ability: Sheer Force
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground

  • Nasty Plot
  • Sandsear Storm
  • Earth Power
  • Focus Blast

Gyarados (F)
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water

  • Aqua Tail
  • Dragon Dance
  • Protect
  • Roar

Ogerpon-Hearthflame (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire

  • Helping Hand
  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Spiky Shield
  • Synthesis
craggy dagger
#

yum PikaLmao

molten oasis
#

ik what youre doing mf

forest arrow
#

does their gyarados not run an item? lol

craggy dagger
#

what am i looking at

molten oasis
#

omg its no item gyarados lmfao

#

im not stupid

forest arrow
#

bye smeargle lmao

molten oasis
#

no decorates for you

craggy dagger
#

aahuh

molten oasis
#

lmao

forest arrow
#

bro really clicked spout infront of ogerpon

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i dont understand

craggy dagger
#

i’m sorry-
life orb water spout??????

molten oasis
#

hes not gonna let me do that again

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so, im changing it up

forest arrow
#

focus blast lando wtf..

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this guy lol

molten oasis
#

oh no look guys

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its lando i

forest arrow
molten oasis
#

my eyes hurt looking at that shit

timber falcon
#

Wtf was that game

molten oasis
#

oh we won lmfao

forest arrow
#

me too lol i put it on paste to make it easier to see

atomic mural
#

fact is: thatr kid beat someone (he didnt have 1000 rating)

timber falcon
#

Bro who was using that kyogre? Anyone here?

molten oasis
#

yep

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idt so, im just on ladder

timber falcon
#

Cause those plays hurt me so badly

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Like nothing b4

molten oasis
#

im surprised the smeargle wasnt faster than rilla

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cuz sash would usually run max max unless he stole the smeargle off of wolfey

timber falcon
#

That’s even worse, smeargle should always me max speed unless tr

molten oasis
#

i mean it did have tr

forest arrow
#

yeah... that was funny

molten oasis
#

but still that paste hurts so much to look at

timber falcon
#

And they could’ve used double intimidate

forest arrow
#

roar gyarados lol

timber falcon
#

There’s a fricking +1 zac and they don’t intimidate, they wait to do the worst switch I’ve ever seen

molten oasis
#

tera steel incin, no protect np focus blast lando i with salac berry, ddance ROAR gyara, SYNTESIS HEARTHFLAME ogerpon, and then the 2 somewhat normal things

molten oasis
#

which is why we have swords dance

timber falcon
#

Still they missed double intim against a team that was 4/2 physical

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4/6*

molten oasis
#

i also had regidrago sitting in the back both games

timber falcon
#

Even so, it would’ve been helpful in the least

molten oasis
#

they could have played better but i think they were jsut going for funny shenanigans

charred saddle
#

i think one that surprises me the most is NP lando KEKWCRY

molten oasis
#

for me its the ogerpon

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first off, wrong one, second off helping hand and synthesis is wild

timber falcon
#

For me it’s the smeargle

molten oasis
#

that set was in a wolfey video

forest arrow
#

for me its the team LMAO

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

Throw got the right answer lol

charred saddle
#

the whole ass squad

timber falcon
#

Imagine smeargle as the main tr setter, like just why

#

Wolfe at least had farig

molten oasis
#

well, y'all got to see some of what im cooking

charred saddle
#

dont see any problem with that

#

sash TR flutter is also a thing

molten oasis
#

not making a rental off of it anytime soon

charred saddle
#

and like whats weird about itt in smeargle?

forest arrow
#

I already knew (: but throw stays quiet

willow vault
molten oasis
#

lol yea

molten oasis
craggy dagger
#

oh hey leo

charred saddle
timber falcon
molten oasis
#

more games needed, boo

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i wanna see my cracked elo arkeknine

charred saddle
#

kekhands ur contradicting urself

willow vault
charred saddle
#

u said it has its shenaningans. then why are you questioning it

molten oasis
#

idk lol, mostly a joke

forest arrow
#

lol

molten oasis
#

the team hit 802 on cart ladder i think its got what it takes

timber falcon
forest arrow
#

most definitly

molten oasis
#

just need to play it more, feel more confident with it today then yesterday

willow vault
#

Is it a Zacian team?

molten oasis
#

zac drago

willow vault
#

Ooh

forest arrow
#

he cooked

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I like it

molten oasis
#

the idea came from tofu/86th in indianapolis but i built the team myself

charred saddle
#

i htink drago starting to be picked up too recenly

molten oasis
#

yea Nils is running it

charred saddle
#

ye

willow vault
#

Very nice

molten oasis
#

i liek drago

solid frigate
willow vault
#

I’ve been working on some av kyogre, it feels pretty damn good

craggy dagger
#

wah-?

charred saddle
#

i mean just by its power, it decently comparable to restricteds

molten oasis
#

since flutter is at its all time low and the steel types arent too common it can do funny things

craggy dagger
#

AV kyogre sounds interesting-

willow vault
charred saddle
#

AV kyogre is actually really strong

molten oasis
#

200 hp is very nice

charred saddle
#

very flexible

molten oasis
#

also yea, av kyogre good

willow vault
molten oasis
#

although the only thing ive fought is specs

solid frigate
forest arrow
charred saddle
#

i just like being dumb and spout hehe tera water hehe specs OHKO resist

molten oasis
#

misty terrain grimm was brutal

timber falcon
#

Lunala team has been crafted, time to climb that in game ladder

forest arrow
#

so weird

charred saddle
willow vault
molten oasis
#

like, i got out obviously but that was still ass

timber falcon
#

I understand misty terrain grimsnarl, I ran it for a bit

charred saddle
#

so ur also not restricted to use E shot on rain

willow vault
molten oasis
#

as in i found like 4 more kyogre and just, played better lol

#

wellspring is rough for kyogre

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

Specs kyogre?

molten oasis
#

it was another indi regional team i believe

willow vault
molten oasis
timber falcon
#

And I’ve entered a ladder game with no items, im so smart

solid frigate
willow vault
forest arrow
#

yeah just prtoect whats next to it and horn leech kyogre easy lol

timber falcon
#

Even better, I entered a fucking single battles game

craggy dagger
#

i went into cart latter decently without EV and tera typing my team

timber falcon
#

What the heck am I doing

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

wellspring aint top 12 but its still pretty strong imo

#

we have a lot of strong non restricteds rn its pretty cool

charred saddle
#

dude one of these days kyogre will run AV tera flying tera blast just to deal with ogerpon

willow vault
#

But I can say that gholdengo helps a good few matchups for me

molten oasis
#

everything actaully feels manageable

craggy dagger
#

don’t give me ideas PikaLmao

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

lemme wood hammer them in peace

forest arrow
willow vault
molten oasis
#

ok mirai is probably the thing that easily gets out of control

craggy dagger
#

kyogre who?

charred saddle
#

its mostly a joke type of comment haha

willow vault
solid frigate
#

here updated

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

ig dawn wings isnt like, bad

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

looks fine, id go rapid strike personally but single looks good

forest arrow
#

I just like Lunalas ability more

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

but OTOT is gonna use Lunala so i let him do the Lunala

molten oasis
#

shadow shield is a great ability

craggy dagger
#

it is

molten oasis
#

i will remain

#

Zacian's Strongest Warrior

molten oasis
#

i may have lost faith but i got it back

#

im going to get fried at NAIC tho lol

solid frigate
#

I might not be both Terapagos and Kyogre's Strongest Warrior but i will not stop on trying

willow vault
craggy dagger
solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

top cut with sword doggo and drago

craggy dagger
#

yesssss

molten oasis
#

im hoping to day 2 at least

#

but we'll see

willow vault
#

How many people day 2 generally?

craggy dagger
#

hah-
you got this

molten oasis
#

or sets*

willow vault
molten oasis
#

not a lot of room for error

willow vault
#

Fair enough

craggy dagger
#

yeah
once you're at 3+ losses you're just playing for points

molten oasis
#

yep

charred saddle
#

oh ur going to NAIC?

molten oasis
#

yep

charred saddle
#

pog

molten oasis
#

with zac

#

cuz its my fav restricted

#

and the other ones are kinda boring to me

willow vault
#

Nice

#

I remember all the headaches you were stressing about in like the first 2 weeks of the formats lmao, glad you’ve found something with it

molten oasis
#

yea, uh, the start of the format sucked for me lol

willow vault
#

I still haven’t found that tech was Palkia, clearly I just need to find better partners for it

molten oasis
#

this is my first restricted format

craggy dagger
#

palkia and dialga were always most present in double restricteds iirc

willow vault
molten oasis
#

zac will be better when double comes around

willow vault
craggy dagger
#

format's start was amazing for me-
i used-
mewtwo and flopped so hard PikaLmao

molten oasis
#

can easily run some hard hitting special attacker to remove it lol

#

or yk

#

zac ogre

willow vault
molten oasis
#

we'll see

#

y'all will find something

#

its hard

willow vault
#

Oh I’ve found some good stuff, I just am not enjoying solo restricted formats

molten oasis
#

fair

willow vault
#

Tbf I can’t say I’ve found good stuff, Tofu found it and I used it

molten oasis
#

yea but its not ever a bad thing to use other peoples ideas

willow vault
#

Yeah

molten oasis
#

i mostly take cores i like and build from there

#

teambuilding is a collaboration thing

#

doing it by yourself isnt always the best idea

willow vault
#

Probably true but I do it anyways

charred saddle
#

the world revolves around stealing ideas tbf bruh

molten oasis
#

originality is also overrated

dapper crag
#

yo, anyone play Gen 9ou and is 1700+ elo? Im looking for someone to fight up there. Could give shinies, apris in exchange

willow vault
dapper crag
#

im 1640 so its not that off

charred saddle
#

most of us playing the official format, not much of us playing gen9 OU

willow vault
dapper crag
#

ahhhhhh damn

molten oasis
#

we are vgc players

solid frigate
long narwhal
#

I play singles

charred saddle
dapper crag
molten oasis
#

yea

long narwhal
dapper crag
#

oh no

long narwhal
solid frigate
#

should we ask someone to make a Singles competitve discussion Chat to seperate it?

molten oasis
#

no

long narwhal
#

Yes pls

dapper crag
#

yes please

charred saddle
#

i think someone did already try making the suggestion

willow vault
craggy dagger
molten oasis
#

theres singles players like

molten oasis
#

rarely, so we dont really have another chat for it

dapper crag
#

im going to be the best singles player in the world by the end of summer

#

book it fr

willow vault
#

Also for singles there are so many tiers + I would assume there are Smogon discords, I could be wrong though

craggy dagger
#

ik lugia is a bit of an odd choice but strawberry

willow vault
dapper crag
molten oasis
#

lugia is fine

#

it works

willow vault
dapper crag
craggy dagger
#

its physically frail which is kinda-
upsetting-

willow vault
willow vault
dapper crag
#

ah alr

molten oasis
dapper crag
#

I should get back into vgc, the issue is its j hard for me to pick leads

craggy dagger
#

true

molten oasis
#

pick a team to play with and lead the same thing over and over again, see what does and doesn't work

willow vault
dapper crag
#

yep hard agree

molten oasis
#

vgc is hard to get good at

forest arrow
#

And even the best players don’t always choose the best leads. Just depends on your MU and how you take it

molten oasis
#

there's a lot of factors in playmaking in vgc

#

leads mu's board positioning etc

#

playing is also half the battle, you have to build a team that works as well

forest arrow
#

Like your pokemon in the back are just as important for taking hits on switch ins etc

willow vault
molten oasis
#

eh

willow vault
#

For me atleast

molten oasis
#

not for me at least

forest arrow
#

Sitting in the builder syndrome is real

solid frigate
#

Teambuild,Placing and tactics

molten oasis
#

i can throw 6 mons together

#

that work

solid frigate
#

Teambuild is the hardest factor inside

molten oasis
#

just depends on you're knowlege of the format

south shuttle
#

Flutter Mane, Raging Bolt, Tornadus, Ogerpon Wellspring, Calyrex Shadow, and Inceneroar

molten oasis
#

that is, a team

molten oasis
#

...

willow vault
solid frigate
#

didn't Caly Ice is the Better of the two now-

molten oasis
#

caly ice is better

charred saddle
molten oasis
#

lmao

south shuttle
south shuttle
#

Shadow is good against flutter

forest arrow
molten oasis
#

more consistent, better bulk, better coverage

willow vault
#

So I spend a lot of time team building but then when I practice I feel like the team can work well but I can’t make it work

molten oasis
#

lmfao

willow vault
forest arrow
#

I is better than S and I will die standing on that mountain

molten oasis
#

same

solid frigate
# south shuttle Why

bro Caly S did not get into top 8 plus its harder to teambuild,Flutter Mane can just Shadow Ball the Caly S

molten oasis
#

flutter also isnt that popular rn

molten oasis
#

and its forced into booster speed

#

we limited flutter's power

charred saddle
#

tbh, its not that caly S is bad. its that people have been preparing it so much due to wolfey posted the first win with caly S

molten oasis
#

thanks caly, and hard hitting physical attackers

forest arrow
charred saddle
#

and since people were hyping around it so much

molten oasis
#

it got 1, overhyped

south shuttle
molten oasis
#

2, heavily prepped for (incin)

solid frigate
willow vault
charred saddle
#

its still so fucking strong, and can spiral out of control really quick

solid frigate
#

heck not all Caly I Run Trick room now

molten oasis
#

true yea

charred saddle
#

caly I is just a tank

forest arrow
#

Caly S’s problem is that it’s a one trick pony, so like hard to execute when we know what you gonna do

solid frigate
#

its just So damn tanky

charred saddle
#

like here siting and staring wih glacial lance

molten oasis
#

it does 1 thing yea

south shuttle
forest arrow
#

Caly I too, but it has bulk

molten oasis
#

i mean so does ice rider but also, it does it way better and its more flexible on teams

forest arrow
#

And seriously doesn’t need TR to be good

charred saddle
#

one trick pony isnt necessarily bad, but its just easier to play around since u know it now

forest arrow
#

Although you’d rather have it up of course

solid frigate
#

aside of Koraidon and Zamazenta, Caly Ice is my third major problem for my Terapagos Team if we say Legendaries

timber falcon
#

Is it just me or does cart seem way easier than showdown

molten oasis
#

zama does 1 thing and its top restricted in the regional rn

charred saddle
#

maybe it gets one or two shine but then people will start to learn how to play around it

timber falcon
#

People seem to forfeit quite often here

molten oasis
#

BEFORE master ball

#

1000+ rating

timber falcon
#

Ok so I gotta grind up first

molten oasis
#

yea

forest arrow
molten oasis
#

its annoying

forest arrow
#

At least for me

willow vault
timber falcon
#

I haven’t seen a restricted yet lol

molten oasis
#

its lot of "water spout go brr" rn

charred saddle
#

aw ur making me blush

timber falcon
#

Nvm found a kyerum user

forest arrow
#

My peli loves it

charred saddle
#

im about to make kyogre team in cart bruh

molten oasis
#

my wellspring loves it

forest arrow
#

Kyurem is ass unfortunately

molten oasis
#

we learned the hard way

charred saddle
#

u guys will soon see me and my hacked kyogre with freeze dry hitt ur peliper

willow vault
timber falcon
#

Yeah it’s a rain looking team, with cinderace?

molten oasis
#

NOOO

charred saddle
#

jk dont report me, i dont have hacked mon

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

my wellspring

willow vault
solid frigate
forest arrow
#

I don’t even see Kyu W or B

timber falcon
#

It’s odd

solid frigate
#

What,the Hell is this shit

charred saddle
#

if only kyogre getts freeze dry poliwhirlkek

molten oasis
#

i saw a kyurem w team, it was weakness policy shit

#

and i ohkoed it with ivy cudgel in rain kek

forest arrow
gentle cragBOT
timber falcon
#

Oh and I think I’m might lose, dint anticipate high jump kick

#

IT TANKED A METEOR BEAM

ancient crow
#

whim's encore is absurd

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

encore is annoying yes

timber falcon
#

even better dark pulse archaludon

willow vault
#

I think when I play ladder it’s like 90% caly-I, like 5% Miraidon and 5% caly-s. I haven’t run into anything else in like 50 games

molten oasis
#

i play lots of kyogre

#

and shadow rider

timber falcon
#

I might lose here lmao

solid frigate
ancient crow
pearl wind
willow vault
ancient crow
#

imagine telling your opponent "if you protect you lose a mon"

charred saddle
molten oasis
#

i played a misty terrian grimm with caly ice

timber falcon
#

This cinderace tanked a heatwave for chi-yu and meteor beam from lunala at orange, wtf was that thing fed

forest arrow
#

The usual nasty plotter that expects me to set up TR but I just KO with Lance🤣

molten oasis
#

i lost, because my regi's damage got nuked

pearl wind
charred saddle
#

HAHAHAH DONT BONK ME ALYZ

pearl wind
charred saddle
#

0a tho very cool

pearl wind
#

you get kyogre and i keep your shiny zacian

forest arrow
#

THE BONKING PENQUIN

molten oasis
#

all my legends are in master balls cuz im too lazy lol

charred saddle
forest arrow
#

I love it

timber falcon
#

Hahaha Tera ghost scarf kyerum

charred saddle
pearl wind
molten oasis
solid frigate
willow vault
timber falcon
#

It missed the KO on flutter lmao

molten oasis
#

my ogerpon is in a friend ball tho, both of mine

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

and my bloodmoons are in moon balls

#

yea i have 2

timber falcon
#

Greedy mf, gimme

willow vault
solid frigate
timber falcon
willow vault
solid frigate
#

My Terapagos is in my Master Ball to diss Kieran that my Master Ball works lol

forest arrow
#

I just use lux balls on everything

molten oasis
#

i spend 16 hours playing s/v again, not doing that again

forest arrow
#

Shinies get apri balls

timber falcon
#

As a surprise factor despiser, I feel like I’ll be hating cart in a min or 2

molten oasis
#

i hate cart but also

pearl wind
molten oasis
#

i like seeing the animations, behemoth blade and dragon energy look cool in this game

charred saddle
#

well funny thing poliwhirlkek

i gained a lot of play hour on SV this year

timber falcon
#

In game I feel more stressed that in showdown idk why lol

molten oasis
#

even tho they were so much better in swsh

solid frigate
#

but can't in SV

timber falcon
#

Oh yeah true

charred saddle
#

just this year btw poliwhirlkek

molten oasis
#

damn

pearl wind
#

what are you doing 30h in home