#competitive_discussion

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timber falcon
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ur names joshua?

strange fjord
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Le gasp! You found out!

timber falcon
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well its my name lol

solid frigate
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LOL

timber falcon
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that mucnhlax has me on guard more than the terapagos lol

solid frigate
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i am jealous of someone with same names can enjoy with each other

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last time that happened to me its chaotic at finest

normal cedar
solid frigate
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turtle gang-

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welcome to the turtle gang

molten oasis
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looks fine

normal cedar
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I love turtu;e

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turtle

solid frigate
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Rapid Shifu is better

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but Dark Shifu is also good

solid frigate
normal cedar
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I mostly use dark for preference

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Single strike is just cooler

solid frigate
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fair enough

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i swear i am the only Terapagos Cresselia Beliver

normal cedar
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Why cress?

solid frigate
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More Bulky,can operate Trick Room, and Lunar Blessing Helps Cure Status Conditions

normal cedar
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That's fair

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I wanna make a trick room team tbh

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I wanna use freddy fazbear

solid frigate
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You can look at my Rental of the reason why i use it

solid frigate
normal cedar
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ofc

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I'll probably get around to it

solid frigate
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yeah

timber falcon
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ggs

strange fjord
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ggs

timber falcon
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zoroak is a tricky mon for sure

solid frigate
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mhm

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wait does H-Zoroark turns into Terastal Terapagos when send in

strange fjord
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no it doesnt

autumn vault
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Sadge

calm narwhal
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Is there any pokemon who can block priority with its ability & follow me ?

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If it had to be rage powder I allow it

timber falcon
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duraludon line have one

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but just for follo wme

calm narwhal
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Duraludon learns follow me ?

timber falcon
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oh u mean learn

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indeedee

solid frigate
calm narwhal
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Indeedee you are right

strange fjord
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zoroark can be disguised as Base Form if its in the back but stays in base form. terastal only if it transforms beforehand then swaps out

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never ever disguised as stellar form tho

autumn vault
solid frigate
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kinda wanna see how the animationw orks

timber falcon
autumn vault
timber falcon
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2 full paras in their end lol

autumn vault
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Tragic for your opponent

timber falcon
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t1 was a reck though

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dengo came in with the perfect MUs

autumn vault
timber falcon
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but at the same time, it let dengo activate with no threat

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bolt spatck was low cause of draco

solid frigate
timber falcon
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untouchable

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i see why drago enjoys it so much

molten oasis
solid frigate
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lol

autumn vault
# molten oasis

Buzz Lightyear looks like he has eaten too many sweets and is suffering from eating them too fast

solid frigate
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Gholdengo is literally the Plan B if Zacian and Zamazenta can get around the Nerfs

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and i mean LITERALLY

autumn vault
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It is

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Walls both of their STABs

molten oasis
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walls zacians sacred sword too

autumn vault
molten oasis
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steel ghost is too good

solid frigate
molten oasis
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lol

solid frigate
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oh Aegislash is not in the game?
thats fine.

WE HAVE SOMETHING EVEN WORSE

zealous badger
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wat r good counters agaisnt koraidon?

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theres too much of em lol

molten oasis
zealous badger
molten oasis
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252 spA 252 hp or speed weather ball hurricane wide guard tailwind/protect/helping hand

zealous badger
gentle cragBOT
zealous badger
molten oasis
zealous badger
molten oasis
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i'd probably go tera fairy on whims to boost moonblast

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or steel for defensive tera

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why do you have so much attack invest on incin

zealous badger
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šŸ˜­

molten oasis
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(Incineroar) (F) @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 156 Def / 68 SpD / 28 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Knock Off
  • Taunt
  • Fake Out
  • Parting Shot
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overheat over fire blast

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tera stellar on pelipper, and sash

forest arrow
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Proabably want protect on LO Chiyu

molten oasis
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or go specs

forest arrow
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that too

zealous badger
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this look better?

molten oasis
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sash on pelipper

forest arrow
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specs on chi yu

zealous badger
molten oasis
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oh

forest arrow
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or protect if wanna keep LO

molten oasis
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uhm, sitrus ig

forest arrow
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Yeah sitrus max hp

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put the 4 in SpD

autumn vault
solid frigate
autumn vault
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Also you don't need to use pelipper wih sash

molten oasis
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its on whims alrady

forest arrow
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Whims has covert

solid frigate
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oh wait

zealous badger
solid frigate
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well sitrus or rocky helm

molten oasis
autumn vault
solid frigate
forest arrow
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Could go Life Orb Peli

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and give chi yu specs

molten oasis
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yea

zealous badger
autumn vault
forest arrow
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okay you gave it protect?

craggy dagger
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calyrex electric bike rider

molten oasis
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lmao

zealous badger
molten oasis
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that be so broken

forest arrow
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Then disregard that just give peli sitrus

zealous badger
autumn vault
forest arrow
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Pelipper Rider better

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lol

molten oasis
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could go goggles

zealous badger
solid frigate
molten oasis
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kill amoonguss

zealous badger
craggy dagger
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has the ability as one, with grim neigh, unnerve, and hadron drive poliwhirlkek

molten oasis
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how to ruin vgc

craggy dagger
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yeah

solid frigate
autumn vault
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For my FariLuna Miraidon team, i ran Araquanid because of pelipper hurting hearthflame's damage output, pelipper is still very nice here

zealous badger
molten oasis
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i wonder if caly plushies exist

autumn vault
molten oasis
solid frigate
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i worried about Koraidon,yet i am doing ok with it

molten oasis
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i forgot about this lmfao

solid frigate
forest arrow
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they dont ive looked before

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i wanted an ice rider plush

autumn vault
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I want Zekrom and Excadrill plushes

molten oasis
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put a caly plushie on a glastrier plushie

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i saw that mf

forest arrow
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Lol i dont think they have those either yet :/

molten oasis
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they do

forest arrow
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oh bet

autumn vault
molten oasis
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NOOO

autumn vault
forest arrow
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Ill just get Caly and put it on a Peli Plush XD

molten oasis
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theyre out of calyrex plushies

autumn vault
solid frigate
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I need Terapagos Plush

solid frigate
molten oasis
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it

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is

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an admittedly i dont hate calyrex that much

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dlc its from kinda made me hate it less

solid frigate
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the horses are fine

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but calyrex pls no

molten oasis
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also sorry

caly_plush.jpg
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thats cute

solid frigate
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no thats just menace

molten oasis
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yk what

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im not afraid to say it

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i like calyrex

solid frigate
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fair

forest arrow
molten oasis
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lmao

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"got your sister pregnant" is killing me

solid frigate
solid frigate
timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
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Oh Iā€™ve seen these

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Made one for my shiny only indigo disk challenge

solid frigate
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same,but i just want to do this for fun

timber falcon
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Is it a tw and tr team btw?

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Or just lunar blessing

solid frigate
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cuz Cresselia,Incineroar and Terapagos are the slowest

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in the team

timber falcon
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So does cress only help in that caetegory?

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Category*

solid frigate
timber falcon
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So Iā€™ve noticed something

solid frigate
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?

timber falcon
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You have pros and cons for the team as whole

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Why not attempt to shut down those noticeable cons?

solid frigate
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i know how to deal with it

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except for the DLC part that is just troll

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but yeah i am happy with this team

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especially i forgot cresselia and i think about using it when i was at school

timber falcon
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As long as it works then itā€™s fine ig šŸ‘

warped mason
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Just ohko'd caly ice from full with tera electric specs electro drift.

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Peak satisfaction

molten oasis
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not sharing more as ive already stated multiple times im taking dengo wellspring to NAIC lol

solid frigate
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kek

chrome knot
craggy dagger
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bug dengo???

chrome knot
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mhm

craggy dagger
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i run flying/ground

chrome knot
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mine is for the mirror

craggy dagger
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owhhh that makes sense

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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iā€™d assume so

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bug resists ground right?

chrome knot
torn parrot
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Got my nap time to go hard in this last final

chrome knot
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and covers for if i needed tera bug earlier in the game and they run the cc variant

torn parrot
craggy dagger
torn parrot
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YAAAASSSS

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COLLEGE CRUNCH

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HHGBNNNNN

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I SURVIVE ON NAPS

craggy dagger
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screw sleep take naps

halcyon garnet
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Whats the opinion on best kyogre team? I've seen a few different setups, I've been running different teams. I'm curious and grateful for information

torn parrot
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The regiekeli is more annoying than I expected it to be

chrome knot
craggy dagger
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i need to take naps instead of hibernatingā€¦

molten oasis
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although i like water more rn personally

solid frigate
torn parrot
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I think itā€™s choice specs

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Wait no

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your literally talking about

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Just the best team in general nvm

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I thought you meant a specific team

craggy dagger
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specs run it next to a tw setter

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or scarf and fari

solid frigate
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or just Mystic water with Tornadus

craggy dagger
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gravity

solid frigate
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for wha

craggy dagger
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no miss origin

solid frigate
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ok fair

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Kyogre @ Mystic Water
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Origin Pulse
  • Water Spout
  • Thunder
  • Ice Beam

I use this

craggy dagger
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rilla pon about to eat good with glide

solid frigate
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Me with Torn:

craggy dagger
solid frigate
molten oasis
willow vault
solid frigate
calm narwhal
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Dang everybody in there mother doing Tera water now

craggy dagger
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for what?

tired sage
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For a Corviknight, how does this moveset sound: Roost, Bulk Up, Body Press and Drill Peck

solid frigate
tired sage
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Eh, I prefer Drill Peck just cause no recoil

solid frigate
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you have roost which negates that-

tired sage
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Fair

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But Bulk up good?

solid frigate
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good enough

tired sage
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I'll take it

cyan smelt
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Iron defense better than bulk up imo

tired sage
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But I think it would benefit Brave Bird a bit right?

cyan smelt
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Yeah I suppose

sterile leaf
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Trying to build a reg g team around my favorite mons, Latias and G-Articuno, any ideas? Thinking of psychic surge, but that would be 3 psychic types

solid frigate
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its not that good for both of them...

tired sage
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Also can I get feedback on my Iron Valiant set: Swords Dance, Close Combat, Knock Off, Moonblast

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Or should I swap out Moon for Spirit Break

solid frigate
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Spirit break.

tired sage
next stump
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but not familiar with Latias teams at the moment

sterile leaf
gentle cragBOT
calm narwhal
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Been really catching the work lately man dang

solid frigate
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Might as well do a Challenge Run

cyan smelt
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What's a challenge run

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Yeah

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Is hisuian lilligant still viable in reg g with Groudon

solid frigate
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maybe

chrome knot
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@next stump what was ur 6 for indy?

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w/ or w/o gholdengo?

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i won a pc with gholdengo but legit had no mu into miraidon so i had to take peli out for bolt

next stump
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i had gholdengo, only played one miraidon the whole weekend so it worked out but i feel that

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probably going to test ting lu somewhere on the team

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or ice spinner ursh

rustic mountain
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ting lu making its return: šŸ«Ž

solid frigate
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252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 36 HP / 220 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 108-127 (45.9 - 54%) -- 49.2% chance to 2HKO

It still do quite a buttload for a Ting Lu

foggy lodge
solid frigate
# foggy lodge 25%

so basically Miraidon would have like 1.25x Multiplyer cuz Choice Specs is 1.5?

foggy lodge
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i guess?

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But yeah Ting-Lu seems fine

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And y'know what

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My Zamazenta team seems like it has a good match up against Miraidon poliwhirlkek

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I have to test it

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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when i'm done with this fucking works and exams i'm going to test it

bold geode
solid frigate
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Moose

cyan smelt
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Moose

atomic mural
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dosent make much sense now but

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elder python
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any recommendations for 3v3 ranked singles online scarlet?

near patrol
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So Iā€™ve Made the Weirdest Team xD, Tell me what you think (Itā€™s not supposed to be good, just something interesting to use)

  1. Palafin
  • Wave Crash - Acrobatics - Jet Punch - Flip Turn
  1. Archaludon
  • Electro Shot - Draco Meteor - Metal Sound - Flash Cannon
  1. Smergle (Maxed Defensive Evā€™s
  • Transform - Lunar Blessing - Light Screen - Reflect
  1. Armarouge
  • Armor Cannon - Expanding Force - Clear Smog - Calm Mind
  1. Kingdra (Swift Swim)
  • Hydro Pump - Dragon Pulse - Ice Beam - Protect
  1. Slowbro
  • Heal Pulse - Rain Dance - Psychic Terrain - Water Pulse (Or Yawn)
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
bold geode
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ToppoWoppo just hit rank 69 on ladder lmao

rustic mountain
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who

bold geode
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ToppoWoppo
Crazy Trick Room player

rustic mountain
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is that the guy who does upside down streams

bold geode
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Yes

rustic mountain
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lmao

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gives me a headache everytime i see a clip

bold geode
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He legit lost a game, said "I threw it so I could get rank 69", and just now did it lmao

rustic mountain
torn parrot
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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I kinda want to use kyogre tbh

rustic mountain
timber falcon
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If I wanted to run hydro pump on kyogre

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Where would I put it?

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Havenā€™t done the calcs, but Iā€™m pretty sure a neutral hydro pump KOs most things

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But Iā€™m not so sure of my pagos MU

cyan smelt
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Hmmmm can regidrago still be good this reg

molten oasis
cyan smelt
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Regidrago deals with caly I pretty well

mighty stump
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Wahoo

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Top 150 rn

molten oasis
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Nice

mighty stump
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Read rank 68 like a book

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Wonder what the rating is rn

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oo

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1746

true niche
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If you perform on ladder really well, is your team ready for irl comp?

mighty stump
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What, for bo1? Its good to train your risk management/hard call making since there are no habits to base your information off but you should be practicing Bo3 sets too and figuring out other aspects of the game

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People like to write off Bo1 for being CTS/Cheese value but there are still important skills to learn from there lol

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Plus, you play the Japanese

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Potential inspo

elder python
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how do i teambuild from 3v3 ranked online battles?

cyan smelt
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congrats tofu and yeah the japanese are cracked

mighty stump
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Like udnerstand what are the most used mons, your favourable matchups, how to set up you team for success

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Idk, it seems weird shit is always there since the format is very prediction heavy/coin-flip

elder python
mighty stump
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Can't tell you much more i'm afraid

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I don't play 3v3

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Don't like it

brittle harness
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So like, why is Iron Treads in Reg F considered bad? It has seemingly good matchups into a lot of top mons while being a great partner with Miraidon
(Quark Drive + Jolly 188 Speed EVs allows it to outspeed non-Scarf base 135)

craggy dagger
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itā€™s considered bad?

brittle harness
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Apparently

dapper crag
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PokƩmon No. 990: Iron Treads
Types

Ground/Steel

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/112/120/72/70/106

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.1
craggy dagger
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itā€™s still weak to ground right?

brittle harness
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Well yeah, but the only other Ground Type in VGC is Ursaluna

cyan smelt
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lando

craggy dagger
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thereā€™s a lot of earth power running around and that-
SpDef isnā€™t helping

brittle harness
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I thought everyone wrote off Lando already

craggy dagger
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itā€™s just early reg so people are trying out new toys first

brittle harness
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Even then, everyone's acting like Miraidon winning tournaments is a big surprise when like, everyone I know was worried about it since Day 1

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and Iron Treads looks like an amazing partner for it

craggy dagger
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wellā€¦
Day 1 and mirai was actually looking pretty weak.
we all knew how oppressive it was but it was hard to find a slot onto a team-

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tbh AV treads would be good but thereā€™s still shifuā€™s around too

brittle harness
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Electro Drift OHKOing Rilla from full GardeSip

craggy dagger
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no we had calcs-
when i say weak i mean it didnā€™t really fit any teams at the time

brittle harness
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Even if the synergy didn't really seem great at the time, did people seriously write off the ~5.2x total multiplier and go "B-Tier"

craggy dagger
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for mirai?
no

brittle harness
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Then how are people surprised it's winning?

craggy dagger
cyan smelt
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is that why people have started running raichu

brittle harness
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Maybe

craggy dagger
cyan smelt
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regular

craggy dagger
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lightning rod?

cyan smelt
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yes

autumn vault
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Well it has been discovered that Miraidon is better off lonely with FariLuna than any violet paradox

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Treads is one of them

craggy dagger
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maybe
it gets FO too so :0

brittle harness
craggy dagger
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oh god

autumn vault
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Raichu is very interesting now, counters both Miraidon and Raging Bolt and Fake Out is very interesting

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Plus Volt Tackle is very strong

craggy dagger
dapper crag
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Raichu's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Dig, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Flail, Fling, Fly, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Nuzzle, Play Rough, Present, Quick Attack, Reversal, Spark, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, Volt Tackle, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Charge Beam, Disarming Voice, Discharge, Draining Kiss, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Agility, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Growl, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Nasty Plot, Play Nice, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sweet Kiss, Tail Whip, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Raichu.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
craggy dagger
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only a matter of time before raichu came along

brittle harness
# autumn vault Treads is one of them

Ok, but why would Treads not be a good partner? It looks to matchup decently into a fair number of top threats like Shadow Caly, Flutter Mane, Raging Bolt, and other Miraidons

autumn vault
craggy dagger
brittle harness
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Lemme run a calc rq

craggy dagger
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at least without AV

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idk abt thatā€¦.

autumn vault
gentle cragBOT
craggy dagger
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iā€™m surprised weā€™re not seeing a lot of hands tbh

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but lycopoky does make good points

dapper crag
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Iron Treads [Ground/Steel]
Immune

Electric, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Rock

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Normal, Psychic, Steel

Neutral damage

Dark, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Fire, Ground, Water

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Ground- and Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1
brittle harness
# craggy dagger idk abt thatā€¦.

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 0 HP / 68 SpD Assault Vest Iron Treads: 75-88 (45.4 - 53.3%) -- 32.8% chance to 2HKO

And Knock Off w/252 Attack (Jolly) is a OHKO unless heavily invested in physical bulk which... Who does that

craggy dagger
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also fire and water weakness?
thatā€™s a no go-

cyan smelt
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on showdown i saw tera ground farig with tera blast lol

brittle harness
craggy dagger
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would you always bring miraidon to battle?
even if thereā€™s something that could shut off mirai and deny terrain?

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cause once electric terrain is gone treads just becomes deadweight

brittle harness
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It's Reg G so... Your restricted is basically mandatory

craggy dagger
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pffft

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no you donā€™t

grizzled bronze
craggy dagger
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or you can be delulu like me and make a team without a restricted poliwhirlkek

mighty stump
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@craggy dagger Iron Treads is just meh

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Offensively middling, bulk is to be desired, will either take up items that certain better mons want or not have it's weaknesses dealt

mighty stump
craggy dagger
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im not the one making a case for treads to be-
good poliwhirlkek

mighty stump
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Oh yeah

brittle harness
mighty stump
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Because you're getting synergy-baited by wanting to take advantage of E-Terrain by activating the abilities of pretty poor Pokemon who overall do not improve any relevant matchups/struggle against relevant matchups

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When there are other ways of taking advantage of E-Terrain

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The only good paradoxes are the ones that were good without Electric Terrain beforehand: Jugulis/Bundle/Hands

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By shoving on Iron mons "just because they have Quark Drive" do not actually consider the individual Pokemon themselves. The ability isn't enough of a band-aid because everything has an increased power level

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It doesn't mean the team is "unviable" for anything can really be "used". Just don't realistically expect it to be good/top cut

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Plus

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Iron Treads dies to a resisted Draco Meteor, which says a lot

brittle harness
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So what makes a mon have good matchups against top threats vs. being actually good?

mighty stump
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I mean both are connected

brittle harness
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Could've been worded better but hopefully the point is across

craggy dagger
mighty stump
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If you have good matchups against top threats, then it's actually good

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No one will ever be able to argue Incineroar isn't good

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Cause it straight up improves every team it's on

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You either look at a Pokemon via what it can overall do, or if it has a unique niche that is relevant to be considered that nothing else can do

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Then theres als considerations of actually planning out the matchup with your lines/flowcharts/gameplan

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Taking the only relevant Miraidon team at the moment as an example

craggy dagger
mighty stump
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If you want a Ground-type, Ursaluna Bloodmoon does what you want whilst providing an immunity towards CSR which is one of Miraidon's tougher matchups. Alongside with Farigiraf being able to provide anti-priority and being linked to Ursaluna-Bloodmoon as a potent TR/slow mode core (or Tailwind, Rajan Bal's ver) and E-Terrain solving the Amoonguss matchup which both FariLuna despised

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You have an overall truely synergistic team with actually good pokemon

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With Farigiraf being able to easily complement Miraidon

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Miraidon also provides that fast offensive mode + pivot power that FariLuna used to have with Urshifus as well

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Its pretty easy to see the depth of each mon when each individual mon has clear strengths/are good

knotty mirage
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Does anyone know how many speed EV i need too outspeed caly s with miraidon on tailwind ?

mighty stump
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Yeah

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0

craggy dagger
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isnt miraidon faster on tw when csr has no tw?
though idk abt scarf csr

brittle harness
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The main thing that led me into thinking Iron Treads has merit is that under terrain, it can outspeed non-Scarf Base 135 and OHKO Flutter Mane, Shadow Caly, Miraidon (don't have specifics on EVs but it can't be that bulky), and I think Raging Bolt? It can also pivot or provide utility (and CSR OHKOs) with Knock Off

knotty mirage
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Ah okay just wanting to try makes bulky choice spec miraidon

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Pairing it with tailwind that is

craggy dagger
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idk about ohko-ing bolt from full hp...

mighty stump
mighty stump
craggy dagger
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i was gonna say i think bolt is a little too bulky PikaLmao

knotty mirage
mighty stump
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I mean you could probably do it like a Flutter Mane but you take it out of your offenses not your speed

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You have to consider the mirrors

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But then you miss out on power, so I don't know if there are some relevant KOs that you need but im pretty sure you need max spa for Dracos into Caly-I

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especially fi Terrain is off

knotty mirage
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So what should i do then ?

mighty stump
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I mean

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That

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252 SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Helping Hand Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 204-241 (98.5 - 116.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

^ No terrain active

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I'd just keep it as is unless you have other methods

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Dillon mentioned Caly-I Tera Grass is gonna become more relevant

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So having an overall neutral damage button to click kinda great

brittle harness
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Hasn't it already shown up in top cut?

mighty stump
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Top cut doesn't equate to general playerbase yet

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yet

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Could also not anyways

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But people are definitely going to opt out of Water

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I liked Water

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I also liked Fire

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But i'd be fine without Fire-teras cause it retains my matchup for me easily

knotty mirage
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I play on ranked ladder so the tera is really weird there i see poison tera caly ice often

brittle harness
craggy dagger
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i would say tera ground cause i like STAB horsepower or tantrum-

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but thats just me...

brittle harness
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Tera Bug for STAB Pollen Puff IQ

mighty stump
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Makes sense but it hurts you in the Kyogre MU

craggy dagger
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yeah

knotty mirage
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I guess the reason not many people on ladder using tera grass is because of chi yu

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Like chi yu caly s pair is really common there

mighty stump
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Yeah but at least you have Pelipper for that

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So it's not really a big deal

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You can switch in the Rain later if necessary

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and scout for Choice item

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Btw @brittle harness you're more than welcome to use Iron Treads if you think it has merit, I'm not saying flat out don't use it, just the point was there is more the Miraidon than being a Quark Drive bot

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Just in-case that wasn't clear

brittle harness
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Fair

autumn vault
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Miraidon was predicted to be amazing, felt overhyped and then with FariLuna it won a tourney and now feels like it lives up to expectations that were set a month ago that it previously failed, the main thing that held it back was other paradoxes, Treads is one of them

brittle harness
gentle cragBOT
knotty mirage
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Btw can spec draco meteor from miraidon ohko max HP and 180 sp def assault vest ting lu ?

brittle harness
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What nature?

knotty mirage
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Bold

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Oh you mean the miraidon timid then

brittle harness
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Meant both but that's helpful

autumn vault
mighty stump
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The thing with Ting-Lu is that it can feel really passive at times

brittle harness
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??? I got a very different result

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Ohh, AV

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64-75% w/o AV

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75% chance to 2HKO assuming no stat clears

autumn vault
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You know what i am thinking? Weezing Regigigas with a restricted and ditto

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Bad? Probably
Innovative? Depending on how you look at it

knotty mirage
brittle harness
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Hold that thought

craggy dagger
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wouldnā€™t neut deny imposter-

autumn vault
cyan smelt
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Why not just use blood moon to counter miraidon

mighty stump
#

Draco

autumn vault
cyan smelt
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Oh

craggy dagger
autumn vault
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If not then it can Draco it before it moves

knotty mirage
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And tinglu can help agains't caly s too so why not

autumn vault
mighty stump
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The only thing about Ting-Lu again is that it can just feel very passive

craggy dagger
mighty stump
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And yes it can

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max spe modest is enough

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Miraidon hits 205, max Ursaluna hits 208

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if non-Timid

craggy dagger
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:0

knotty mirage
autumn vault
mighty stump
autumn vault
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Max speed with tailwind can outspeed non booster speed flutter

mighty stump
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That's what I mean

autumn vault
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Booster speed can screw it over

mighty stump
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Having a passive slot feels pretty bad

brittle harness
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Ting-Lu's moveset is........

Serviceable

autumn vault
mighty stump
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Im more thining getting Fake Out/Intim cycled lol

autumn vault
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Fissure seems like it can do it a favour but fissure is fissure

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It never lands

mighty stump
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At least you retain the threat

craggy dagger
autumn vault
craggy dagger
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IB exams are fun GengarSad

knotty mirage
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And ruination can probably help if i got dondozo match up those team is really annoying to deal with on ladder

mighty stump
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Don't think Ting-Lu likes eating a Wave Crash

brittle harness
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Just spitballing, but I'm thinking of like:

-Ruination/Payback
-Heavy Slam
-Rock Slide
-Protect

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Oh and Body Press, nearly missed that

knotty mirage
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I'm using AV so i think i will use
-ruination
-snarl
-heavy slam
-stomping tantrum

mighty stump
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Ruination/Stomping/Dark STAB or Snarl/Slam or Fissure probably

brittle harness
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Does a flinch count as a move "failing"?

mighty stump
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yep

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basically if you fail the move/prevented from moving

brittle harness
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Ah, so that's why people run it

mighty stump
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or miss

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So Fissure needs ST

brittle harness
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Hey wait

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If Armadeedee was annoying, how bad is Calydeedee?

mighty stump
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Its ok

craggy dagger
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shadowdee is fine-
armadee wasnā€™t really annoyingā€¦
well not in reg F at least

brittle harness
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I just heard that it's annoying on ladder bc Bo1 CTS

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and it just happens that they run both, but I figured SRC was so strong it'd kinda just plow through non-Dark mons

mighty stump
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Nah you still need some semblance of respect for dark mons

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Sometimes some CSR dont even use Psychich STAB

craggy dagger
#

do you think hands will make a comeback-

mighty stump
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Thats what my variant has been using

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Ive been running the FariLunaMira core just before Indy Regionals and was using Hands

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It improves the Terapagos/Raging Bolt/mirror + Occassional Ting-lu

craggy dagger
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has it been good?
iā€™d assume CA hands-

mighty stump
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Nope

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AV

craggy dagger
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:0

mighty stump
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Again, with Hands, you hate Amoonguss

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E-Terrain opens your Tera and Item

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Improves your overall offense

craggy dagger
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yeah

mighty stump
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Also it provides double FO mode for me so I always like that lol

mighty stump
bold geode
mighty stump
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86th

bold geode
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Lol
Meanwhile Lugia got 64th

mighty stump
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Wtf did I tell yall

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bold geode
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Lol

forest arrow
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lol raichu too

mighty stump
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Raichu is worse pikachu

bold geode
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Apparently Peli + Landorus I can do good against it too

mighty stump
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Against what

bold geode
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Miraidon

mighty stump
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Miraidon?

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Lol

forest arrow
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Draco lol

mighty stump
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-2 252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Helping Hand Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Landorus: 204-240 (104 - 122.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

bold geode
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Yeah but like
Draco and they can get TW and outpace

mighty stump
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I can Draco 3 times and wipe your board

forest arrow
#

Mirai too good

autumn vault
mighty stump
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No it won't

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It's a meme

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Just play better

autumn vault
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Good to counter Miraidon and Bolt

mighty stump
bold geode
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Lol

autumn vault
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Otherwise it is, why?

bold geode
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Although take the advice with a grain of salt as imma look into it lol

forest arrow
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Just a nuisance, very easy to get rid of

mighty stump
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Because smart Miraidons wont be running just 3 move electric STABs

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Discharge was just a meta-call because no one prepped for it

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But you can get walled entirely too easily

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Plus

bold geode
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The person who said this had Peli Caly I and Lando I
But deadass had Sandsear/Sludge/Nasty Plot/Protect

mighty stump
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It's Pikachu

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And you're talking to the guy who ran Pikachu

autumn vault
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Also earlier i saw that the Chu line gets endeavor, still not redeemable but i will let you go widl with it if you feel like it

mighty stump
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Literally

bold geode
autumn vault
mighty stump
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So like you cannot debate with me with Pikachu experience

bold geode
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But are you Mr Pikachu himself?

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Do you run the Pokemon

autumn vault
mighty stump
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I know Rhyperior has been mentioned

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With Tera Fairy

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Im like meh about it, I ran into one and it just died to Bloodmoon Ursaluna

bold geode
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Idk apparently that one dude thought we did, remember the one guy Tofu who'd report cheaters to us

mighty stump
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Wat

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I don't remember randos

bold geode
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There was this one guy who'd report to us when he thought people were "hacking" when they really weren't
But we were like "hold up lemme call Mr Pokemon real quick"

mighty stump
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Oh

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Right

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No one actually cares

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The only people who do are trying to find excuses to be shit at the game

bold geode
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Lmao right

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"This guy MUST be cheating, it can't be that I'm shit at this game, it CAN'T BE"

mighty stump
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"They genned their legendary" idk man maybe its the fact you brought Eviolite Seedot

bold geode
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"I'm literally running Hoppip, but it ain't me, this guy definitely cheating"

mighty stump
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"I don't understand why my max spdef max attack Gholdengo isn't doing any damage with Tackle its cause he hacked his Kyogre"

autumn vault
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"Why did that Miraidon OHKO my incineroar with max hp 0 SpD, he must be cheating"

mighty stump
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"Why did Astral Barrage not KO his Normal-type"!!!!

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Hacker!!!!

bold geode
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"Why did my Fissure miss this guy"!!!
Hacker!!

autumn vault
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"Why did the Kyogre's tera water water spout ohko my hearthflame, such a dirty cheater!"

mighty stump
#

I figured it out

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The perfect Miraidon counter

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Yw

bold geode
#

The Sash Pelipper looking at all the Pokemon that Miraidon resist OHKO 'd in Indy

timber falcon
#

Howā€™s does the duo flutter chi-yu work

autumn vault
warped mason
#

Tera electric discharge is just disgusting

timber falcon
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Is it?

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The damage should be mitigated by quite a bit and it harms both sides, I donā€™t think it OHKOs resist

craggy dagger
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it doesnā€™t

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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like ok u lived heres a resisted weather ball or hurricane

solid frigate
chrome knot
solid frigate
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lol

autumn vault
solid frigate
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One shots (Technically) Terapagos

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and Literally almost killed Flutter With VOLT SWITCH.

south shuttle
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is galarian zapdos scarf worth using?

autumn vault
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I think so

south shuttle
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i havent seen that many intimidate users lately

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so defiant isnt really working

autumn vault
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If you really need an intimidate/incineroar counter and a flying type and only 1 slot left G-Zapdos is most likely worth the slot

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Terapagos-Stellar in Electric Terrain: 208-246 (77.9 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 104-123 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Why do i even bother with this-

autumn vault
#

And Scarf is G-Zapdos' best item

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

crit hadron parabolic does abt half to a pult-

solid frigate
#

F

chrome knot
polar canyon
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+1 252+ Atk Ho-Oh Sacred Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 200-236 (96.6 - 114%) -- 75% chance to OHKO this is pathetic

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Chat be honest about this one

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Tera fire is meant to be grass

next stump
craggy dagger
next stump
#

what a dumb hack check system

mighty stump
solid frigate
solid frigate
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dude that mf falsely Accused Everything for no reason other than Views

autumn vault
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Or a popular content creator which are the only people he exposes

solid frigate
#

imagine he just falsely Accuse the Indiapolis Regionals for no reason

autumn vault
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Seriously though i am very surprised Youtube hasn't wiped Verlisify's face from YT

solid frigate
autumn vault
solid frigate
#

mhm

autumn vault
#

Honestly though no reason to interact with a man-child more immature than a literal child

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It does absolutely nothing to him

solid frigate
#

mhm

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it would be funny that he accuse Miraidon for doing that much damage ruin the game

autumn vault
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Calyrex is a bigger problem than it

solid frigate
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of course is gonna do BS damage

autumn vault
solid frigate
#

mhm

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yeah Youtube should wipe him off the platform

autumn vault
#

They really should

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Just ban him from the internet

solid frigate
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also i bet he can't win against all of us lol

autumn vault
#

I would make him rage that i beat him with a "bad" restricted called Zekrom

solid frigate
#

he does not even had the mental on Competitve Pokemon

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oh and did i mention he plays Singles

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thats gonna be Easier to use Miraidon to beat him

autumn vault
#

He would probably hink like "My opponents are stupid, i will do this play that isn't obvious" and then it backfires so easily

solid frigate
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252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dialga-Origin: 90-106 (43.4 - 51.2%) -- 6.3% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Palkia-Origin: 180-212 (91.3 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Giratina: 182-216 (70.8 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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autumn vault
#

It's not even a joke

solid frigate
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idk why it exist but the Calcs show 2/3 Mons survive it

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or just give them AV

molten oasis
autumn vault
solid frigate
molten oasis
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Idk about that

autumn vault
molten oasis
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Uhm, weā€™ll see

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I might experiment with zacian wellspring

solid frigate
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tbf with People using Miraidon after Indiapolis

molten oasis
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I do think it is a requirement you run something to murder incin

solid frigate
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its gonna negatively Impact Zacian due to also weak to Ground

molten oasis
#

Wha?

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Zacian is faster than miraidon

solid frigate
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But you don't do BS Damage like used to

molten oasis
#

Well thereā€™s this move called swords dance

solid frigate
#

plus,Remember that Miraidon won the Regional means people would bring Ground types to stop it-

molten oasis
#

That just likely means a rise in lando i and Bloodmoon

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Maybe groudon

solid frigate
#

Zacian is Fairy Steel-

And what does Steel weak to-

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Fire and Ground.

molten oasis
#

How fucking stupid do you think I am

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Oh, an idea popped up

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Covert gapdos with coaching

solid frigate
#

oh?

molten oasis
#

Next to Zac

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Could be interesting

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That or just going rainshifu

solid frigate
autumn vault
molten oasis
#

With a rise of miraidon

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I would not go with all of those

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I was saying that or rain not both

solid frigate
#

wait is Zacian in Day 2

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ok none,the highest Zacian is in 86th.

lofty tartan
#

šŸ‘€

molten oasis
#

Thisā€™ll probably be more of a meme set than anything guys lol

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Where did you get that?

solid frigate
lofty tartan
#

So far Hands is solving most of my matchups next to Miraidon. Pretty sweet. arkeknine

molten oasis
#

eww dozo

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Oh that came out?

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So Regidrago Zac, hmm

solid frigate
#

Only 2 Zacians in top 128

molten oasis
#

Makes sense

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Tofu mentioned that earlier

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The Zac regi stuff

solid frigate
#

The best Lefties Terapagos is in 26th.

craggy dagger
#

that specs hyperbeam pagos was something else

molten oasis
#

Similar logic to goldendragon but like, thereā€™s the zacian that just murders all fluttermane

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Btw

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I still think lefties calm mind is better

craggy dagger
#

though idk if glide would have KOā€™d the pon

molten oasis
#

But thereā€™s definitely that set now

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Are you playing Lugia?

solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

there is one Person using CACM Terapagos but with Clefairy instead of Cresselia

craggy dagger
#

i think i got a bit greedy with that 3rd calm mind tbh

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CACM?

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

The turn you brought in chi yu needed to be rilla

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

That chi yu was hard wasted

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I think you played fine otherwise

solid frigate
#

tru

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also I'll just refer Clear Amulet Calm Mind and Clear Amulet Swords Dance as CACM and CASD

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

Rillaboom is just so good Against Miraidon for Terrain Aspect

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wait yeah My Team has Rillaboom and Terapagos,so if Rillaboom Fainted and its a 2v2,I'll still ahve Terapagos to remove Terrain

craggy dagger
#

iā€™m still kinda sad that pagosā€™ ability is once per battle-
imagine if it was 1 per swapā€¦
kinda defeats the point of uhā€¦
mirai and korai being able to reset per swap but pagos canā€™t

molten oasis
#

Or sorry, overtuned

craggy dagger
#

fair enough but it seems unfair that the boxes can reset every swap while pagos canā€™t

molten oasis
#

Ok but pagos removes both

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Cresselia in Electric Terrain: 166-196 (73.1 - 86.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Omg-

Not even Cresselia can tank that

molten oasis
#

If it was 1 or the other then whatever

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But itā€™s both

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So your timing just matters a lot

craggy dagger
#

true

calm narwhal
#

Does anyone have a calculator for determining final stats of pokemon

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

That would make terapagos too strong imo

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Itā€™s annoying to deal with as it is

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

we donā€™t really have a terrain denial but we have weather denial

calm narwhal
#

@solid frigate what set do you run on your Rillaboom

molten oasis
#

Yea

craggy dagger
#

i mean ig neutralizing gas can be counted asā€¦
terrain denial

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or would it be terrain delay,

solid frigate
calm narwhal
#

I get just ran over by Miradion

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I am ngl

solid frigate
calm narwhal
#

We run a similar set i run assault vest

craggy dagger
#

i have this-

Menace 2 (Rillaboom) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 196 HP / 76 Atk / 108 Def / 76 SpD / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Wood Hammer
  • Grassy Glide
  • U-turn
  • Fake Out
solid frigate
calm narwhal
#

I been running the calyrex team wolfey has but I am either running the wrong pokemon or more people are running counters to that team

#

I think I am going to go back to my Groudon king gambit team

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I like swords dance king gambit

craggy dagger
#

gambit kinda stopped being a thing halfway through reg F iirc

charred saddle
#

gambit is still around

#

just not as prevalent as in reg E

#

still is a good with defiant

craggy dagger
#

yeah

calm narwhal
#

I think too many people run incineroar

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And calyrex is always a threat right

elder python
#

how to teambuild singles ranked

calm narwhal
#

I want to give this Kyogre team a try mystic water I usually prefer scarf but Iā€™m going to try it out.

craggy dagger
calm narwhal
#

Well I know that

#

I been rocking this will o wisp knock off set

elder python
#

should i use knock iff or sucker punch scarada singles ranked

calm narwhal
#

Well in singles priority is not as important I feel like

craggy dagger
#

like incin is king when it comes to role compression-
intim, knock off, debuff and pivot with parting shot, pivot with u turn, fake out

calm narwhal
#

As doubles itā€™s still good but not as important

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Especially with fast pokemom so probably knock off

craggy dagger
willow vault
#

Is this sv ranked?

elder python
calm narwhal
#

I am running knock off parting shot will o wisp & fake out

craggy dagger
#

idk they said singles

elder python
elder python
#

ranked is the bring six pick 3

willow vault
#

Knock off is generally more important to be able to get rid of boots to allow rocks to chip your opponent

elder python
#

i thought you dont rlly set up in ranked

molten oasis
#

gambit seems pretty mid

calm narwhal
#

Am I crazy to get rid of parting shot for u turn or maybe flare blitz

willow vault
craggy dagger
charred saddle
#

still around, not as much

calm narwhal
#

I just feel like too many people running that stupid amulet

elder python
charred saddle
#

i mean even like in late reg E it drops in pick too

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drops even more

willow vault
molten oasis
#

true yea

elder python
gentle cragBOT
calm narwhal
molten oasis
#

ok but so can literally anything

elder python
#

for singles ranked, generally you make a team with synergy?

calm narwhal
#

and what PokƩmon is king gambit good into

willow vault
calm narwhal
#

The giraffe priority stopper often able to remove it in a single hit

molten oasis
#

wow its good into caly s craaaaaazy

elder python
calm narwhal
#

Haha

willow vault
calm narwhal
#

What for king g ?

willow vault
#

Gholdengo is a menace in singles

molten oasis
#

if theres a spike in dengo there might be a spike in gambit

dapper crag
#
PokƩmon No. 983: Kingambit
Types

Dark/Steel

Abilities

Defiant, Supreme Overlord, Pressure (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/135/120/60/85/50

Total

550

SableyeBot version 4.27.1
calm narwhal
#

I personally run defiant

solid frigate
#

it is very tanky,so i guess it works

calm narwhal
#

Swords Dance + defiant is even killing some dark types in a single hit

craggy dagger
#

well for doubles itā€™s defiant for singles itā€™s supreme overlord no?

calm narwhal
#

Doubles you want defiant

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I promise you

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Too much of the goat around

craggy dagger
calm narwhal
#

Oh I thought you said defiant for singles

#

My fault

solid frigate
#

Singles its depends

willow vault
#

General threats include zamazenta, which gets walled by gholdengo, great tusk which is really broken but does require ice spinner to hit gliscor, gliscor is crazy good at stalling teams so like supreme overload Kingambit is a solid answer into gholdengo

calm narwhal
#

Yeah thatā€™s a new threat for me

#

I didnā€™t realize how powerful that mon was

willow vault
#

So like gliscor + gholdengo is really damn good in ou

calm narwhal
#

Zamazenta pretty hard to remove

#

Unless I got calyrex

craggy dagger
#

zam is easy to remove-
just aeroblast it into oblivion

willow vault
#

Most the top mons can only hit one or the other especially with scarf being so common on tusk

calm narwhal
#

Aero blast I donā€™t have any PokĆ©mon

craggy dagger
#

lugia though GengarSad

calm narwhal
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Except my shiny lugia

craggy dagger
willow vault
calm narwhal
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Yeah I guess I just donā€™t use any of those PokĆ©mon but this Groudon team I could tera dragon & be able to eat fighting types moves better

willow vault
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This for vgc?

calm narwhal
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I would love to get invited

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I am not good enough yet i donā€™t think I only started 3-4 months ago

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But learning

molten oasis
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imagine everyone else lol

calm narwhal
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Dude Tera water zam got me yesterday

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I just havenā€™t had a single game against it but it got me good

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I was just like uhh surging strikes in the rain could do some damage right

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Tera water I was like oh read

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Regidrago in Electric Terrain: 195-230 (70.9 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO well thats good

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252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Regidrago in Electric Terrain: 260-307 (84.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO bruh

craggy dagger
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252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain through Light Screen: 90-107 (42.2 - 50.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

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stil half through light screen multiscale GengarSad

willow vault
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Miriadon is so damn strong itā€™s mad

molten oasis
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252+ SpA Dragon Fang Dragon's Maw Regidrago Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Electric Miraidon: 163-193 (92.6 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

craggy dagger
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youā€™re kidding

molten oasis
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nope

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252+ SpA Regidrago Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Electric Miraidon: 84-100 (47.7 - 56.8%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO pfff

solid frigate
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damn

autumn vault
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"mom, can we have a drago pokemon at home"
"sweetie we have a drago pokemon at home"
The drago pokemon at home:

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Yes this is a bad meme ik

molten oasis
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first game i miss 2 fucking play roughs

solid frigate
polar canyon
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Ho-oh

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Clear amulet ho-oh and booster howl scream tail

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Is that a bad idea

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Also tera dark or tera ghost on scream tail?

craggy dagger
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uhhh

pearl wind
craggy dagger
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interesting ideaā€¦

pearl wind
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protects you from prankster taunt while also giving you a great typing vs calyrex shadow (on at least one turn; if they dont run tera blast fairy or fighting/draining kiss) they cant really touch you

polar canyon
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Hooh evs aren't right

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And rilla

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Those are the showdown suggested

solid frigate
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ah yes

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Hooooooooh

polar canyon
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The hooh

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It's the sound santa makes

timber falcon
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no it aint

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what kind of santa have u been hearing

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its "hohoho"

polar canyon
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Hooh hooh hooh

timber falcon
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well played

solid frigate
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lol

molten oasis
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so

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zac might come back to me

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finding regidrago to actually be pretty fun

solid frigate
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oh boi

molten oasis
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dragon energy is a nuke button

solid frigate
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252+ SpA Dragon Fang Dragon's Maw Regidrago Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 96-114 (47.5 - 56.4%) -- 83.6% chance to 2HKO

That did a lot-

molten oasis
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lol

solid frigate
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252+ SpA Dragon Fang Dragon's Maw Regidrago Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Terapagos-Stellar: 193-228 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis
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dayum, good damage

solid frigate
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+1 132+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Regidrago: 211-250 (76.4 - 90.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Well He can fight back but then again

I need 2 CMs

polar canyon
molten oasis
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yea, but i also have zac kek

polar canyon
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Gonna need something for that

molten oasis
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amoonguss

solid frigate
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Amogus

polar canyon
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One of them was against miraidon and I both forgot to set ho oh to tera grass and give rilla grassy surge

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Goobed

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Do I use amoonguss and rilla?

molten oasis
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yea

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amoonguss rilla is fine

polar canyon
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Well not like I should be worried about opposing grass right

molten oasis
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sure yea

polar canyon
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Also it's double regen

molten oasis
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plus having electric resists is a good thing rn

solid frigate
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agree

polar canyon
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I'm always too worried about bleakwind weakness

molten oasis
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then run pelipper instead

polar canyon
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Why pelipper

molten oasis
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more consistent

polar canyon
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No I mean being weak to bleakwind

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Urshifu and 2 grass types

molten oasis
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OH, uh

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wide guard