competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

u dont even play anymore

[dull ibex]

BRO I played today 😭

you just dont watch anymore stupid

[patent marsh]

against or with 😭

[cyan smelt]

with

[balmy glen]

No it’s terrible but my friend who got 11th an indie usually uses Smeargle Muk to help him figure out a team to steal on ladder lol

[charred saddle]

wait ur the keanu inosanto?

[mighty stump]

No he's Keanu Reeves

No shit

[charred saddle]

bro ur team is cool as hell

[mighty stump]

Bego

[charred saddle]

hanya mastiin doang si kontol

[mighty stump]

mastiin palamu

[charred saddle]

aduh kepret salah reply lg ngontol

[mighty stump]

ngakak gw

[charred saddle]

WKKWKW

[charred saddle]

im addicted to pokerogue

[mighty stump]

lol

[charred saddle]

[cyan smelt]

just lost to an indeedee with a fucking focus band

and a solgaleo with expanding force

[dull ibex]

🤔

Choice band spectrier

I'm cooking

[charred saddle]

huh

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 897: Spectrier

Type

Ghost

Abilities

Grim Neigh

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/65/60/145/80/130

Total

580

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[charred saddle]

???

65 base attack?

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2118814094 throw of the century

[cyan smelt]

lol nice

[cyan smelt]

final gambit ape is so annoying

[torpid venture]

Is cresselia good

[cyan smelt]

why tf is everyone playing like wolfe against me

[true niche]

What item made regidrago go first in tr, when I have caylrex ice

[knotty mirage]

Does anyone have commonly used EV spread for caly ice ?

[knotty mirage]

Probably power band

[cyan smelt]

lost to fucking eerie impulse eleki

now i lost to a fucking kyurem black

[mighty stump]

Respect the Pokemon not the player lol

Just because its not meta doesn't mean you can't lose to it

[drowsy spear]

The room service item

[timber falcon]

when hunting for 0 spe calyrex, do i just reset the encounter many times and the ivs reset?

[cyan smelt]

yes

[molten oasis]

0 speed bloodmoon acheived

[cyan smelt]

are you going to use it

[molten oasis]

we'll see

i have to start finally testing but im gonna climb ingame ladder with a caly ice team i have

which needed a 0 speed bloodmoon

[cyan smelt]

what happened to gholdengo

[molten oasis]

it has dengo

im playing dengo caly rn

[timber falcon]

nice

[timber falcon]

aight thanks for the info, ill be trying for one soon

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to kal0sunleashed

[cyan smelt]

i hate tr

[mighty stump]

You pretty much hate anything if it doesn’t go your way

:/

[molten oasis]

i get to play the game now lol

i won my first game clicking helping hand glacial lance 3 times lmao

[cyan smelt]

sounds like a fun team

[molten oasis]

it is

[cyan smelt]

I should try caly I, it's strong

[mighty stump]

It's not a bandaid if you don't have the right attitude though

[charred saddle]

try to understand why you lose first no?

like hopping in between teams and playing mindlessly wont like bring you anywhere i think

[brisk hatch]

Well apparently electric terrain doesn't prevent spore anymore??

[charred saddle]

huh

[brisk hatch]

I just got spore on last turn of electric terrain

It used to prevent sleep I thought

[cyan smelt]

Spore still affects levitate mons and flying types

[brisk hatch]

Ahhhhh

Yeah it was cresselia

[charred saddle]

basically all terrains does the same with levitate and flying type

[brisk hatch]

I still pulled out the W.
Thankfully
And thx for clearing that up

[charred saddle]

noice

[molten oasis]

almost lost to banded urshifu rapid

and male deedee, but caly ice tera'd and pulled through

then bloodmoon swept endgame

[cyan smelt]

What tera

[molten oasis]

water

jeez lots of shadow rider

[cyan smelt]

Showdown seems easier than cart sometimes

[molten oasis]

ah yes, tera water

[knotty mirage]

It really sucks they don't get terrain benefit i always lost my torn or pelipper because i forgot they can still get hit by prio even when pshycic terrain is active

[molten oasis]

it is pretty unfortunate but it also makes sense

[willow vault]

nu is really fun but I have discovered how long singles matches take lmao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nu-2118879104

[molten oasis]

Dengo wellspring 4-0ed a team

Rain caly with another dengo

My dengo is built different

[willow vault]

Nice

[cyan smelt]

Good to see you're doing well with gholdengo

I had a match earlier where snow was up and I don't know how Venusaur outsped a kyurem white

[molten oasis]

Life orb fucking torn

[cyan smelt]

Wut

[molten oasis]

You heard me

[cyan smelt]

Why life orb

[molten oasis]

That’s my question

And crunch Gyarados

[cyan smelt]

Weird

[molten oasis]

I’m in pokeball tier so

It’s not like, THAT weird for that tier

But I predicted his Tera on flutter and faked it out

7-0 so far

Gonna go play smth else for a bit

But I do really like this team rn, I’ll probably put it in as a top pick for later

[cyan smelt]

Nice

[elder python]

primarina hidden ability or no for singles

[molten oasis]

idk about it for singles but id assume yea?

[elder python]

ight thanks

[timber falcon]

do u guys think that koraidon could do the same as mirai

team looking wise

for example

[charred saddle]

i think key difference is, miraidon heavily benefits from electric tera, and specs

since it stacks up with e terrain, and volt switch pivot

koraidon cant do the same

so no.

[timber falcon]

yeah i should have specified the plan actually, koraidon in most case isnt the one supposed to sweep here

i meant as in the mons that are in the team

[charred saddle]

just find another way to play it,

the best fire type move to gwt sun boost means no STAB, and then recoil. and then u turn no stab no boosted

thats up to you

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/11fae852ff3b10a3

[cyan smelt]

Not good to have two terrains either surely

[charred saddle]

the other mon is just like standard id say.

[timber falcon]

the plan is to send farig and koraidon first. With that i cant be FOd, and whilst koraidon nukes, farig sets tr and BM goes in or maybe ill HH sometimes

or just U-turn

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2118897151 and an example of what i do into mirror

[mighty stump]

I dont see why not but that team looks like it hates CIR-Peli

Lol

[timber falcon]

it does in fact hate peli actually

[molten oasis]

No

A massive appeal of that is stopping spores for Bloodmoon

[timber falcon]

true ig

[timber falcon]

what makes CIR a threat though

wait nvm

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2118903199 how could i improve this game/MU?

i feel like too many risky plays were made

[true niche]

Kyogre is probably s+ if players learn to click hydro pump

[timber falcon]

how much damage is mitigated from clicking spread?

[mighty stump]

its 75% strength

[molten oasis]

Man can’t wait for that to miss

But tbf if you can click origin pulse you can click pump

[warped mason]

Was rajan on timid or modest miraidon

[mighty stump]

Pump is good

Why not

[autumn vault]

You get Water STAB that isn't blocked by Wide Guard

[molten oasis]

Yea

[cyan smelt]

hydro pump misses

[autumn vault]

Collision course the bundle at turn 2

[molten oasis]

So does origin pulse

And you cant infinitely click spout

[knotty mirage]

Probably people just don't want too click move that waste turn 20% of times

[timber falcon]

bolt was still standing

[molten oasis]

You can waste a turn clicking a move if they protect

Technically

[autumn vault]

It was tera eletric

[timber falcon]

didnt want korai ging down there

[autumn vault]

Also you could have switched Blood Moon out in turn 4

Or protected it

[timber falcon]

hmm yeah maybe going for the bundle wouldve been best actually

[autumn vault]

Blood Moon could have easily taken on Landorus-Therian

[timber falcon]

ill be honest i didnt think it had freeze dry

shouldve played safe

[autumn vault]

It could have had hydro pumo icy wind freeze dry and protect or whatever

[timber falcon]

yeah i should account for that

[autumn vault]

What i keep telling myself

[timber falcon]

what i did try do that turn was double up on lando

even though koriadon easily could OHKO it

[stray badger]

Surely there's some Pokemon that can substitute, like, 1 or 2 shiny locked Pokemon in a Kyogre team, right? I've seen a team who's only locked mon is Chi-Yu, there has to be a substitute for that.

[molten oasis]

Nothing does what chi Yu does

Without requiring a move slot for some other move to lower spD

What even is the team?

[stray badger]

https://pokepast.es/3f855357f7f17a1d

[molten oasis]

Incin

Ah, maybe not yiu have little to no damage output without chi yu

Well no,

Incin might be ok here

[stray badger]

I probably will just use one of my Incins already in a team instead of hunting a 3rd one

[mighty stump]

Wrong format

Jsyk

[stray badger]

It has Kyogre
I searched "Reg G Kyogre teams"
How is it the wrong format?

[mighty stump]

Cause your paste says Double UBERs

[stray badger]

It still works for Reg G doesn't it?

[mighty stump]

Still the wrong format. Levels are set to 100 which can influence your EV numbers.

[stray badger]

It's practically impossible to get exactly 50 anyways. Cresselia technically uses an illegal move because it doesn't learn it's signature until it's 70s.

[mighty stump]

You play at level 50.

Your levels are auto-set to 50.

[molten oasis]

Vgc is lvl 50’s

[stray badger]

The numbers are lower or higher for everyone, what's the difference?

[mighty stump]

Sigh

Why do I bother

Never mind

[molten oasis]

[stray badger]

I call semantics arguing

[hollow fossil]

Someone please tell me I'm being fucked with, I did end up winning the game no problem, but my opponent had a clear amulet, substitute/close combat/protect/rage fist annihilape, like this gotta be a joke right? Maybe it's vital spirit and substitute is there to block the other statuses, while the clear amulet covers for lack of defiant but it just feels like I'm being mind-gamed even after the match ☠️

[mighty stump]

I call your lack of understanding too much confidence to start arguing

[mighty stump]

Write it off, sometimes one-off builds are encountered

[stray badger]

It's not my paste

[mighty stump]

Yet you argue like it is, so I'm not gonna bother

[stray badger]

I'm arguing "why would the ratio of stat distribution be any different?"

[mighty stump]

-comp ev

[gentle crag]

Effort Values

Effort Values (EVs) are points that a Pokémon gains when earning EXP from a wild Pokémon battle.

The wild Pokémon defeated or caught will determine how many and in which stat those EVs are gained. An online Pokédex like Serebii.net is useful for finding this information.

Effect at Level 50

At Level 50, the first 4 EVs in a stat will grant +1 point to that stat, and every subsequent +1 stat point increase will require 8 EVs in that stat.

Effect at Level 100

At Level 100, every 4 EVs in a stat will grant +1 to that stat.

Maximum EVs

• Maximum total: 510
• Maximum in one stat: 252

Checking EVs

When looking at a Pokémon's summary, press X on the stats page to see EVs. Any EV that is maxed out will have sparkles around the stat name. When the Pokémon is fully trained, the previously orange shape will turn a light mint color.

Help Command: -comp help

[stray badger]

Maybe a little rounded differently

[hollow fossil]

Just change the damn format, like GYAT

DAYUM

[stray badger]

It's still not my paste

[mighty stump]

Good habits are difficult to impose on people who insist on being stubborn

[hollow fossil]

Real shit

[mighty stump]

So im moving on

[craggy dagger]

uh….
bad time to share a team?

[mighty stump]

Ofc not

Go ahead

[bold geode]

I'm stubborn

[molten oasis]

Oo Nova team 👀

[mighty stump]

But you listen to me

[hollow fossil]

You are stubborn without the stub🤯

[dusty gate]

[molten oasis]

Ok but you’re willing to learn monke

[molten oasis]

That’s an amazing emoji

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/c1d2b00b176b69b4

[dusty gate]

[mighty stump]

Priority spam?

[molten oasis]

Uh

[bold geode]

Nah I'm just slowly copying your swag

[molten oasis]

I don’t like gambit too much but it looks alright

[mighty stump]

I'd be concerned

[molten oasis]

Also not sure about that 4 dark types

[craggy dagger]

kinda

[mighty stump]

Farigiraf is about to uptick in usage

[molten oasis]

Right?

Am I dumb? There’s 3

[mighty stump]

By extension the Miraidon team

Imo, from the thread Tyo started which I agree with

CIR teams > Koraidon + Zama teams

[craggy dagger]

i kinda just thought it’d be cool to have rising voltage bolt and mirai next to each other-
the others are kinda just filler atm

[mighty stump]

Multi-dark types would be kinda scary

[bold geode]

Wha

[stray badger]

https://pokepast.es/6f26c5ade0ab53d8
There, better?

[molten oasis]

Synergy bait

[mighty stump]

Good into CSR though which beats out Miraidon teams

[molten oasis]

Idt that’s a good idea

It’s fun

[craggy dagger]

true

[mighty stump]

Mmm I would just make it a Koraidon team

[molten oasis]

Koraidon bolt good

[bold geode]

Tofu how CIR team better than Zama team, I thought Tyo said opposite

[molten oasis]

Korai pao also hits like a truck

[mighty stump]

Sorry, I meant it

[molten oasis]

Zama teams are better than ice rider teams?

[mighty stump]

Rise in Miraidon teams > Rise in Ground-type usage > Better for CIR/Peli/Urshifu-Water which is dealt with by Zama/Koraidon teams

[molten oasis]

oh

That makes sense

[craggy dagger]

take out gambit then?

[mighty stump]

Downtick in CSR counters due to new things that ned to be answered despite it being the thign that beats out Miraidon teams comfortably

[craggy dagger]

as well for something else-

[molten oasis]

Where does Fari Luna play in this

[bold geode]

Yeah
But he also said that restricteds with setup moves seem weaker, so IDBP Zamazenta rn could be tough

[bold geode]

Question is how does this affect Lebron's legacy

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

I think you can outpace Miraidon teams with setup

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-didnt-laugh-gif-14688388

[bold geode]

Eh not with Iron Defense though
Maybe Calm Mind can, but

[mighty stump]

You take away a lot of multipliers simply by overwriting Terrain

[molten oasis]

Imma beat these miraidon teams with Tera dragon Zac trust (cope)

Zama rilla should beat miraidon teams no?

Zama seems really solid

[bold geode]

Not with Tera Electric Helping Hand lmao

[molten oasis]

But you override terrain

[bold geode]

You see how them Rillas fared

[mighty stump]

No Zamas MU into Miraidon is skewed towards Miraidon

[craggy dagger]

i think i’m gonna stick to lugia for now-
idt im ready for terrain/weather wars

[bold geode]

For sure

[molten oasis]

I was more saying towards rilla zama but yea

What restricteds have good mu’s into it then?

[mighty stump]

Miraidon?

CSR

[molten oasis]

Yuh

Ah

Why?

[mighty stump]

You outspeed it

[craggy dagger]

csr?

[molten oasis]

Caly shadow rider

[mighty stump]

Any form of meaningful chip that puts you in range of AB means you can't bring Miraidon in anymore

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[craggy dagger]

ah i see

[mighty stump]

Even with 2 normal types + Incin

[bold geode]

The Jug Kyogre team was interesting

[molten oasis]

Yea

[mighty stump]

You still have 3 other mons to get around without your Restricted essentially

[molten oasis]

Amoonguss

Uh, shifu

[craggy dagger]

i mean mirai still hits like a truck-

[molten oasis]

I didn’t run into a Mirai today

[mighty stump]

A lot more manageable without your modifiers

[molten oasis]

Mostly shadow riders

[molten oasis]

Without terrain it’s like a flutter

[mighty stump]

Someone said iirc its a 5x multiplier lol

[molten oasis]

Specs fast big damage

[bold geode]

5.32x

[molten oasis]

So resists matter (when terrain is down)

Or nuking it with smth

[mighty stump]

Rounded down

[bold geode]

Ah

[molten oasis]

Mirai is picking up meanwhile I’m just over here with the dengo caly ice team that took me a week to build

(Thanks 0 speed mons)

Anyway

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[mighty stump]

I just realised meta-wise we're in a nearly closed loop

Lol

[stray badger]

I'm starting to get the feeling this chat isn't exactly beginner friendly considering 75% of the advice I've gotten is "why don't you know this barely explained mechanic, in game and out?"

Like how am I supposed to know that the first 6 EVs are different depending on level when the game doesn't even tell you your EVs, at best you'll get a guestimate with a graph with no numbers

[timber falcon]

what are some sets for walking wake without lorb?

[mighty stump]

Because beginner resources are available in the pins, pretty sure you haven't asked how to get started, and you have many self-imposed restrictions.
The largest hurdle of competitive Pokemon is:

• The knowledge gate
• Getting out of your own way

[mighty stump]

Scarf/Specs/AV

Competitive Pokemon isn't a hobby that you can easily just tailor to every whim of yours because it's hard numbers and already very crowded meta-wise, with most edges being concieved through sheer skill + certain microadjustments

Not without a lot of hard work/effort

I've guided more than my fair share of players from 0 knowledge to now, it's just about attitude.

[timber falcon]

thanks

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

And that's mainly also the number one gate I see and why I won't really bother cause at the end of the day it's not my game or team either. So people are welcome to play however you want, I will just help those that do want it

[mighty stump]

Guess who got the Swords of Justice theme to play Ranked with

WR about skyrocket rn

[torn parrot]

im tired af

[mighty stump]

Why

[torn parrot]

college finals beating me

[mighty stump]

Final year?

[torn parrot]

just final projects for the year, i go to an art school

[mighty stump]

That s means its multiple

[torn parrot]

i just have one more to go

[mighty stump]

Does that mean you have different artworks to complete or is it like

How does it work

[torn parrot]

yeah i had multiple projects to complete for different classes some are artworks some are writings

the last thing left to do is a research project

[mighty stump]

Is college = university

[torn parrot]

i think colleges are for specific things and universities cover like a wide range of topics
im not positive tho

but same kinda thing, just big adult schools

[mighty stump]

Basically at the end of it you got a diploma and that;s all that matters

neat

[molten oasis]

You go to art school?

That’s cool

[torn parrot]

yeye it's pretty fun
exept when im procrastinating

[molten oasis]

Ah yes

Procrastination in college/uni

(I wonder why I ended my first semester with c’s )

[mighty stump]

If it makes you feel any better

In vet school they told me the average grade was a B

So you know you're not far off

[molten oasis]

I mean I know why I ended my semester with, c average

Like I didn’t take it that seriously

So I know for, the rest of the year

[mighty stump]

You got other years you can make up for

That's what I did

[timber falcon]

This confused me

[mighty stump]

At the end of the day it;s about passing anyways

Speaking of procrastinating

This meta-analysis isn't gonna write itself

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t help this semester was generals (including the most unbelievably boring ass classes called English and information tech)

I love just work

[stray badger]

Is it really my fault if after asking for recommendations dozens of times in this channel I'm only just now being directed to the pins?

[molten oasis]

My favorite

But yea I’ll do better from now on for sure

[timber falcon]

College sounding rough

[mighty stump]

College is fun

I miss being a student

Life being pretty structured felt good

[mighty stump]

Your recommendations had nothing to do with starting out with VGC but more so with what shiny alternatives for niche roles

Aside from the fact no advice will align with what you want since advice is going to be tailored towards competitively relevant sets

[stray badger]

What part of "I want to make a Goodra team" and "I don't know how to use the team I made" makes you think I have any idea what I'm doing?

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

I need to make it fun

My first semester kinda sucked

[mighty stump]

Aside from advising you the initial roster then after realising the self-imposed restriction I then said I just don't help out with those kinds of things.

You also repeatedly mention multiple difference in values therefore it was never going to align

After also casually perusing the search bar to corroborate the info within memory there has been 0 question asking about actually beginning VGC so to me this just almost feels like asking to be spoonfed without asking

And from viewing interactions with others as well you tend to just straight up turn down advice as well if they didn't align with exactly what you want so why bother

[stray badger]

How was i supposed to know that Pokemon strategies turn into chess levels of complicated steps that you have to have memorized on top of hand carving the chess pieces?

[mighty stump]

That's like 3 deflections in a row I really do not care.

Its either you want to or you don't

So I do wish you good luck and I hope you find a group you really can work with because I am not within that description

The rest of the channel and other users are always able to help you as well as the already available, thorough resources within the pins

[timber falcon]

the koraidon tr team is not doing great rn

[molten oasis]

Maybe it’s just not it then

[timber falcon]

yeah im leaving it to the side for now

caly-ice was a massive problem'

and amoongus

[zealous badger]

https://pokepast.es/7c9603d4520c8266 anything i should change to improve this team?

[molten oasis]

Yk what is a problem for both

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-dance-quotes-pokemon-dance-goldengho-gif-27490580

[timber falcon]

i think ur onto something

[molten oasis]

Not enough Bloodmoon

[balmy glen]

Is it tailroom

[stray badger]

If I say anything more you're probably going to keep arguing with me.

[timber falcon]

nope, lemme shoe paste

[zealous badger]

Wym?

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/f4a86e37260fb21a

[molten oasis]

Bloodmoon looks nice on here

Over chi Yu

[timber falcon]

chi-yu looks fine

id say the problem is why theres even tr

all those mons prefer speed

redirection over farig id say

[zealous badger]

Wat mon would u say looks best as a replacement?

I had imprisinment fari to prevent tr from caly ice teams

[timber falcon]

maybe eviolite clefairy/indeedee

if u still want imprison id go indeedee btw

[zealous badger]

Ah ok

[timber falcon]

cause with that u can stop prio , tr and redirect

[balmy glen]

How is scarf Korai doing for u

[zealous badger]

Also doesnt terrain screw up the encore on my whim?

[solid frigate]

hoi

[timber falcon]

really well, only problem is it doesnt fit on the whole tr element of the team

i tried make it similar to the mirai team that won or smth

[balmy glen]

Scarf Korai plus farig similar to the one that won is nice

[timber falcon]

pretty much

[balmy glen]

but idrk abt making this more of a slow balance team too much

[solid frigate]

Scarf Koraidon?

[timber falcon]

scarf koraidon yeah

[timber falcon]

should i go with faster offence?

my main prob is the ice horse MUs and lack of ways to stop moongus with tera water

[molten oasis]

I also don’t like incin and chi Yu on the same team

[zealous badger]

[molten oasis]

Personally

[solid frigate]

same type, and depend on what Incin set,it can really backfire

[mighty stump]

That's what Luka pretty much said

CIR is a difficult MU and Pelipper hurts Koraidon massively

[timber falcon]

didnt even see the incin lul

[timber falcon]

it does and idk how to stop it

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Raging bolt

[mighty stump]

When you resist both main movesets > turn off your main offensive buff

[mighty stump]

CIR

[timber falcon]

this dont stop da horse

[molten oasis]

I thought that was about pelipper

[mighty stump]

Solving Koraidon is basically the next big puzzle

[timber falcon]

i tried incin, however im getting inconsitencies

[molten oasis]

I’m lost

You need something for caly dengo?

[mighty stump]

CIR-Peli MU

[molten oasis]

I mean, fuck

Yea that

[bold geode]

Who knew the Chad would be not a restricted but a fucking pelican

[molten oasis]

Dengo lmao, Tera water dengo

[timber falcon]

tera water caly

[molten oasis]

Brother click shadow ball

[solid frigate]

Shadow Ball can still hit for neutral

[molten oasis]

Yiu don’t need make it rain for it

[timber falcon]

will it do enough?

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[molten oasis]

Fuck off man

[timber falcon]

maybe tera water incin actually

[molten oasis]

I’m just trying to help

[timber falcon]

wisp it then spam knock

[solid frigate]

116+ SpA Gholdengo Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 114-134 (55 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Decent

[timber falcon]

oh wait thats way more than i thought

what do u guys use to kill ice horse? i know dengo is one of em

or at least answer

Maybe I’ll just go with dengo

[molten oasis]

For the rain mu Tera water dengo is pretty solid

I wonder if monke is gonna bully me again about that, cuz now caly ice is getting dissed and monke thinks my thoughts on dengo are glazing

[bold geode]

It was a joke bruh

[molten oasis]

Still

I’m taking dengo fairly seriously

Im not glazing

I generally think water dengo is a choice that works well with what he needs

[mighty stump]

Try to be more lighthearted bud no one means you any harm

[molten oasis]

Sorry, just ticked off

[mighty stump]

I think Dengo Miraidon makes sense

[molten oasis]

I’ve been playing caly

[mighty stump]

Only if people want to use meme counters for it

[molten oasis]

Yea

[mighty stump]

Like if Rhyhperior is one of those choices

Lol

[foggy lodge]

Pachirisu comeback

[molten oasis]

Like, I think my logic for Mirai dengo makes some sense

With Fari Luna

Not that it’s what’s gonna work

[torpid venture]

What’s a good non legendary steel mon

[molten oasis]

Miraidon caly ice caly shadow

[torn parrot]

Calyrex shadow not making top 8 is really just a thing that happened

Crazy stuff

[mighty stump]

Probably cause everyone geared towards stopping it

[torn parrot]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense lol

I suppose it’s counter is very straight forward

[molten oasis]

Incin

[timber falcon]

Oh how does it stop rain?

[molten oasis]

Who said you’re stopping rain

Kill pelipper with dengo

[mighty stump]

You're starting it

You're MAKING IT RAIN

😎

[molten oasis]

EXACTLY

[timber falcon]

I’m speechless

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-dance-quotes-pokemon-dance-goldengho-gif-27490580

[solid frigate]

Incin

[timber falcon]

Ok I’ll go with the duo Incin dengo

[solid frigate]

more like Incin+Terapagos

But eh Incin really helped me a lot

[molten oasis]

Yea but like, you just play through rain

Worst case scenario you don’t bring koraidon

[timber falcon]

Ok I should be bringing koriadon when I see rain?

[molten oasis]

Generally yes

Pelipper just gives korai a tough time

[craggy dagger]

dango :0

[solid frigate]

i love how the consistent counter of Koraidon is a Toilet Bird and i love it

[torn parrot]

Something interesting Iv heard people mention before this event is that Miraidon will shine once people stop forcing quark drive strats onto it

[solid frigate]

and yep he did

he did shine

[solid frigate]

Dongo :>

https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-enemy-enemy-miraidon-pokemon-pokemkn-miraidon-gif-13362838895392728386

This meme aged horribly

[molten oasis]

Lol

[solid frigate]

Koraidon did not get into top 8 but Miraidon just slap his Fake wheels and get the dub

[molten oasis]

Well the damage output is nuts

And electric types are good with the toilet being very popular

[solid frigate]

If Koraidon is Fire Dragon and Collsion course is a Fire move,He might be similar

but then again

who knows

[molten oasis]

Fighting dragon is fine

Just being weak to flutter can suck

[solid frigate]

Miraidon:Hadron Engine+E-Terrain+STAB Electro Drift
Koraidon:Orichalcum Pulse+STAB Collsion COurse

yeah Miraidon has more multiplyers

[mighty stump]

Flare Blitz can do a lot with Tera-Fire at least

[molten oasis]

For sure, big damage is good damage

Mirai also isn’t necessarily forced into clear amulet

Koraidon prefers clesr amulet if anything

Mirai can go specs

[solid frigate]

yeah the items are the main issue

[molten oasis]

I think also proto spamming isn’t it lol

At least not to the extent some teams are using it

[solid frigate]

like the Paradox Box art Legends feels like they are meant to be Solo

[torn parrot]

I think people lumped in Miraidon with quark drive pokemon when they said it was mid

Miraidon is the real star of the show

[solid frigate]

yeah like Most MIraidon Teams that made it to Day 2 did not have a future Paradox right?

[torn parrot]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

Yeah that checks out

[mighty stump]

Iron Ball and Chain

[bold geode]

Yeah they're usually made outta those

[molten oasis]

The jokes are at an all time low damn

[molten oasis]

Yep

It’s bait lol

Now miraidon runs with Fari Luna lol

Of all things

[solid frigate]

which is suprsing but i like it

[molten oasis]

It’s very cool

[solid frigate]

I used to ran Lando Entei lol

[bold geode]

No I just basically did the Avatar dude meme lmao

[molten oasis]

Ah lol

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Gaslight? Mine are electric

[bold geode]

Also you're wrong cuz this would imply my jokes had a high

[molten oasis]

Yea they were at a medium

Today they’re at a low

[bold geode]

Medium rare China No 3

[solid frigate]

oh no not again lol

[molten oasis]

That is not funny at all monke

[solid frigate]

[bold geode]

Drago would you eat a PERFECTLY cooked medium rare steak, I mean made by Gordon Ramsay himself, seasoned and seared to absolute perfection
But he made it in China No 3 and it was Shrek edition

[molten oasis]

No

[bold geode]

More of a medium guy?

[craggy dagger]

what-

do i even want to know😭

[bold geode]

No

[solid frigate]

no you don't i promise

[bold geode]

The steak is perfectly fine, Gordon Ramsay just cooked it while he was visiting China No 3

[charred saddle]

dont make me report you for this monke

[bold geode]

Or is it the Shrek edition
I can tell them to hold the Shrek

[bold geode]

Report me for shitposting?

[charred saddle]

i feel attacked

[bold geode]

It's a shitpost Leo

[craggy dagger]

moms here to protect you

[bold geode]

Are you from China No 3 and Shrek edition Leo
Is that why you're offended

[charred saddle]

no

im medium rare

😦

[bold geode]

I was cooked by Gordon Ramsay

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Leo's actually like "I'm offended, I was actually cooked by Bobby Flay"

[mighty stump]

Wow saying China No 3 to an Asian

What are you, racist?

[molten oasis]

The fact irs shrek edition puts me off monke

[charred saddle]

id rather be cooked by jamie oliver than be cooked by you monke

[molten oasis]

I love steak but uh, no lol

[mighty stump]

Jamie Oliver 🤮

[bold geode]

Fuck the Daytona 500

[solid frigate]

pfft somehow thats funny as fu

bro can't cook

[bold geode]

I don't think even I can fuck up that much

[solid frigate]

Wait Monke do you cook irl?

[molten oasis]

Nah you’d find a way to burn a steak

[mighty stump]

Yotam cooks extremely well

[bold geode]

Well easy
Steak from China No 3 Shrek edition, hold the Shrek
There, ordered for you, better?

[mighty stump]

I like cooking as well

[solid frigate]

the fact that Jamie ruined the steak once shows how bad it is

[molten oasis]

It’s still from that so no

[bold geode]

Barely

[solid frigate]

even for me i am just a beginner for cooking

[bold geode]

But you didn't have a problem with China No 3

[molten oasis]

I can cook but I don’t do it much

[solid frigate]

ok thats at least better thn Jamie Oliver for fucking up Fried Rice

[molten oasis]

I do

[bold geode]

Wow Tofu Drago might be racist, he don't like China No 3

[mighty stump]

I have to cook for my family since both my mom and sister can't

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

Idk man you're the one that keeps mentioning it and using it as a meme

Seems pretty racial

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[solid frigate]

you said to someone that is chinese hybrid- lol

[mighty stump]

Is that all we are? a joke?

[bold geode]

Shut up Chindo

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

WOW

[charred saddle]

WOW

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Woooah

[mighty stump]

WOWWWWWWWWW

[bold geode]

Lmao

And there's the Twitter beef

[charred saddle]

goodbye monke

[mighty stump]

@ moderator

[molten oasis]

That was a bit much

[charred saddle]

see you in report

[solid frigate]

somehow chat become twitter now-

[bold geode]

And now I'm all over Twitter

And I'm now working on my mental health for the rest of 2024 VGC season......

[mighty stump]

I'd be offended but that would mean I care about your thoughts

[molten oasis]

Ooof

[solid frigate]

F

[bold geode]

Hey it's ok, I'm just another white redneck from the South
Don't believe the words of the man scared of a 5G tower

[willow vault]

What have I missed?

This seems like a lot

[mighty stump]

Monke trying to be funny

[willow vault]

Oh

[bold geode]

I remember that old conspiracy
"Coronavirus is caused by 5G towers"
Like oh thank God my phone got 4G

[timber falcon]

wild

[bold geode]

What's wild is that you thought anyone asked

[timber falcon]

mb didnt know this was still 2020

[mighty stump]

No one asked you either wtf

[solid frigate]

my god this is getting out of hand-

[bold geode]

Yeah yeah I already asked you about stolen spreads for the week

[timber falcon]

btw does walking wake run max max timid?

[molten oasis]

Typically yes

[mighty stump]

Imo you need Speed boosting

[molten oasis]

If you’re speed boosting 244 spA

[timber falcon]

its a sun team

[bold geode]

Holy shit it's sun

[timber falcon]

ok

[bold geode]

Tofu if you ever had a complex thought, it probably died alone and afraid

[mighty stump]

Im sure the concept of a thought is foreign to you that's why you're wrong

[timber falcon]

anyone have a specs flutter set?

[bold geode]

Hey I'm bilingual

[solid frigate]

pretty sure i have one in somewhere

[mighty stump]

I like Sash Flutter on Sun

[timber falcon]

why not specs?

[solid frigate]

Flutter Mane @ Choice Specs
Level: 50
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 116 HP / 204 Def / 60 SpA / 4 SpD / 124 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Fairy
Timid Nature

• Moonblast
• Shadow Ball
• Dazzling Gleam
• Icy Wind
  Is it good enough?

[molten oasis]

Speed control is cool

[mighty stump]

Makes life easy, I like the flexibility, Protecting is cool

[warped mason]

I'm the one that asked

[timber falcon]

ty

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[bold geode]

You thought someone asked you either?

[molten oasis]

You do enough damage in sun with korai and wake anyway

[timber falcon]

ok so f i was to go with sash, what would the moves be?

[warped mason]

No i just asked

[bold geode]

Didn't ask

[timber falcon]

lmao what are u guys yapping abt

[molten oasis]

Gleam/moonblast shadow ball icy wind/taunt protect

[warped mason]

When people say nobody asked, I'm actually the one that asks.

[timber falcon]

aight

drago, do u have ur dengo set or is a secret

[bold geode]

Oh wow
Hey here is my field of fucks to give
Notice
For it is barren

[mighty stump]

I think

It might be time

[molten oasis]

Im pretty sure it’s already floating around but I’d rather not share lol

[mighty stump]

To stop trying

[solid frigate]

i took his Dengo set lol

[mighty stump]

Lol

[molten oasis]

Ok well if torrent has it than you can share it whatever

[bold geode]

That was the moment I was born bro

[mighty stump]

Ok

Maybe I wasn't clear

[timber falcon]

send pls

[mighty stump]

Pause

[solid frigate]

Money Bag (Gholdengo) @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 60 Def / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Make It Rain
• Shadow Ball
• Nasty Plot
• Protect

I just change the Name but eh its still Drago's

[molten oasis]

Yep, that looks right

[bold geode]

Money bag? More like fuck off
(This post has been approved by Zamazenta)

[molten oasis]

Although a lot of my current spreads are fairly standard

My dengo I’m using rn is named Midas

[solid frigate]

ok thats uncalled for lol

[craggy dagger]

mines always named dango-

[bold geode]

Unoriginal mfer

[molten oasis]

You out for blood or smth

[timber falcon]

oh yea, does sash flutter want timid or modest?

[molten oasis]

Timid

[bold geode]

I actually fought someone who's Gholdengo was named Midas, and it was Caly Dengo lmao

[solid frigate]

You need the SPeed Boost

[bold geode]

Did you fight me Drago

[mighty stump]

You know when you ignore someone and they try harder

[molten oasis]

It was me

[timber falcon]

ok timid

[molten oasis]

I’ve been playing on cart so prob not

[bold geode]

Drago you choked
I beat them somehow

[molten oasis]

Fair point

[bold geode]

I always come back
I loom over the shadows of Shitlo

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/b9f17a3df736d88c hows it lookin

[mighty stump]

You're the face of shitlo there is no looming

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/springtrap-gif-22758628

[bold geode]

I am the dictionary definition

[molten oasis]

Scarf?

[timber falcon]

why everyone say scarf with a question mark

[molten oasis]

Man bolt looks so good on this team

[south shuttle]

scarf basculegion is somehow ru in nat dex????

[timber falcon]

but where

over wake?

[molten oasis]

Probably over wake

You don’t have to run dengo as much with bolt

[mighty stump]

I ran Scarf Speed Boosting Wake

[timber falcon]

why

[molten oasis]

Outspeeding everything is funny

[mighty stump]

Faster than TW

Gets Flip Turn for weak pivots but chips

[molten oasis]

🫵

[solid frigate]

lmao

[bold geode]

🖕👁️👁️

[molten oasis]

Anyway back to destiny 2

[bold geode]

Actually

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/c59a8b9f88b07d5f okidoki heres the final team (i hope)

[bold geode]

🖕

[molten oasis]

Yea that works

[timber falcon]

and my first game is kyogre

[molten oasis]

Ok, why is bolt there

Partially for kyogre mu

[timber falcon]

im scared of tsarena

[molten oasis]

Nuke it

[bold geode]

Bolt funny

[timber falcon]

and pao

[molten oasis]

IT HAS PAO?

Dengo good then

Also pivoting koraidon good

[timber falcon]

dnego and bolt were my leads

[molten oasis]

I see

Uh, good luck

[torpid venture]

Good non steel type

[molten oasis]

Wha? There’s so many

[torpid venture]

I mean

Good no legend steel

[molten oasis]

Urshifu fluttermane raging bolt Tornadus rillaboom incineroar

[torpid venture]

Type

[bold geode]

Also @mighty stump forgot to say, the Gravity Groudon team is fucking hilarious

[timber falcon]

they didnt bring kyogre lol im so confused

[solid frigate]

sometimes players did not bring their restricted is hilarious

[molten oasis]

Well

[mighty stump]

That was mostly the point

[molten oasis]

There’s reasons for it

You don’t HAVE to bring your restricted

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2119122671-daza2pa5ck8qsah4x4khq2zss90xj02pw i think i did good, did i mess up anywhere?

[bold geode]

Like first game I led Sableye Venusaur into Incin Urshifu and I was like "oh however will I deal with this"
Quash Leaf Storm

[molten oasis]

I would not have lead dengo there

I was just saying it was decent for the mu

[timber falcon]

how come? i needed smth to cover in case they led pao

[molten oasis]

Koraidon lead was fine there

[torpid venture]

Who should I replace in ma team tornadus ice rider feraligtr Scizor meowscarada iron moth

[molten oasis]

Uturn out into something, koraidon threatens pao without sun

[timber falcon]

how come?

[molten oasis]

…

You can pivot and yiu don’t die to urshifu

[timber falcon]

yeah this is assuming they didnt go for kyogre though

[molten oasis]

Plus shifu doesn’t want to take a thunderbolt/clap from bolt so it’s pressured to switch

[molten oasis]

You do dsmage without sun

And if needed u-turn out

[timber falcon]

hmm i guess that works

[solid frigate]

180+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 28 HP / 4 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 252-296 (140.7 - 165.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Just for reference

180+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 28 HP / 4 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 194-230 (108.3 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[timber falcon]

i couldnt risk clap in that situation

[molten oasis]

Then tbolt the shifu

[solid frigate]

yeah if i see Bolt in opposing team i would not bring Urshifu

I mean i can Bring it but i need to kill it with Terapagos

cuz i think thats the ONLY Ground move i put on Terapagos

[timber falcon]

didnt think theyd leave it hanging

[solid frigate]

Bolt on Kyogre Team?

is it valid?

[molten oasis]

Bolt is good on everything

[craggy dagger]

thunder bolt

[molten oasis]

Except Mirai teams idk if it’s good there

[solid frigate]

one time you or OTOT said my bolt is off on my V2 of the Terapagos Team lol

[timber falcon]

what do i do into lando-i

should i run icywind over taunt flutter?

[craggy dagger]

lando I?

whats your team?

[timber falcon]

.

[craggy dagger]

icy wind would be cool on flutter though what do we need taunt for?

[autumn vault]

Teams with an electric type or a restricted electric type also can't fit in bolt that easily

[solid frigate]

then again

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2119132830 hows this?

[autumn vault]

I think you know who i am referring to as well

[solid frigate]

Outside of Bolt and Zekrom(I'm not counting Ground types)

None can truly Resist Electro Drift

[autumn vault]

Ah yes, Groudon types, the rename of ground

[timber falcon]

boltsurely

[solid frigate]

lel

[timber falcon]

av bolt eats it like a grape

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zekrom in Electric Terrain: 57-67 (32.5 - 38.2%) -- 5.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

yeah Zekrom as well,but then again.

[autumn vault]

Why would a Zekrom run leftovers?

[solid frigate]

Draco Meteor

[solid frigate]

blame smogon

[autumn vault]

Ok, i will

[mighty stump]

The real question is why would you run Zekrom

😎

[timber falcon]

funsies

[autumn vault]

The real question is: who cares?

[mighty stump]

Fun doesn’t exist

[craggy dagger]

cause bias and fav id assume

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 244 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Raging Bolt in Electric Terrain: 41-49 (17.7 - 21.2%) -- possible 5HKO

Yep thats painful-

[autumn vault]

You got it correct

[molten oasis]

Funny exists

[craggy dagger]

fun doesnt exist-
me who runs cinderace reg F team in reg G

[mighty stump]

Fun is lame

Winning is cool

😎

Metaslave

All the way

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Koraidon in Electric Terrain: 113-133 (64.5 - 76%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yep it still does A LOT

[molten oasis]

Why are you not dracoing a koraidon

[mighty stump]

You can OHKO Terapagos through Tera Shell using a Miraidon

[molten oasis]

That’s my question lol

[autumn vault]

Surprised it tanks that well

[solid frigate]

no i just want to see how much is it lol

[craggy dagger]

WHAT

[mighty stump]

Yep

[molten oasis]

Gotcha

[solid frigate]

what the actual-

[molten oasis]

Also yea miraidon dsmsge output is nuts

[autumn vault]

Miraidon isn't overhyped, i guess

[molten oasis]

As tofu has said multiple times, lots of synergy bait

[autumn vault]

Still a bit pissed about yesterday

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 104-123 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Wait did i do something wrong

[mighty stump]

U did

[autumn vault]

Probably OHKOs no bulk

[mighty stump]

But im not gonna tell you

-ᴗ-

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

It is max HP

[molten oasis]

Ik the calc just not gonna say anything either Kek

[mighty stump]

Lol

Its a very realistic calc too

[molten oasis]

Indeed

[solid frigate]

yeah i was actually confused you mean OHKO Terapagos cuz most Miraidons i face don't OHKO my Turtle cuz i ran my turtle bulky as fu-

[autumn vault]

Why would a Terapagos run no bulk? Unless specs ofc but thats cringe

[molten oasis]

The one yesterday ran no bulk

[mighty stump]

It does OHKO

Im pretty sure it OHKOs yours too

[torpid venture]

Good steel type non legend

[mighty stump]

Lol

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 115-136 (67.6 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

uhhhh

[mighty stump]

Again

Ur doing sth wrong

[charred saddle]

im gonna OHKO your mo-

[molten oasis]

It’s max hp

[solid frigate]

Tera electric,Right?

[torpid venture]

Tera fairy

[mighty stump]

Still missing sth

Tera Electric + sth

[solid frigate]

omg pls don't tell me is HH

[torpid venture]

What’s a good fire type

[mighty stump]

Lol

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon Hearthflame

[torpid venture]

Non dlc

[molten oasis]

Oml, arcanine

[autumn vault]

Idk

[torpid venture]

Cuz I only got crown tundra

[charred saddle]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 210-248 (103.9 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[mighty stump]

Lol

[autumn vault]

That is outclassed, the Hisuian one isn't

[molten oasis]

Yep

[charred saddle]

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 227-268 (112.3 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Yeah mine is dead dead

[molten oasis]

You mean fraudcanine?

[torpid venture]

Is torkoal good

[molten oasis]

It’s fine

[autumn vault]

It is all right

[molten oasis]

You need to run it with tr

[mighty stump]

The Pokemon that are good are the ones that fit on a team contextually but thats just me

[craggy dagger]

bed

[molten oasis]

Yes guys Hydrapple is really good on that 1 team (cope)

[mighty stump]

Torkoal is bad on a TW HO team lmao

[craggy dagger]

now

[strange fjord]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal using Protect: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- worst possible move ever

[torpid venture]

Is tornadus and ice rider good

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Terapagos-Stellar in Electric Terrain: 454-536 (170 - 200.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I want to die-

[strange fjord]

yall never see the counter play coming ;D

[molten oasis]

You want tr with ice rider so not really

Fari ice rider is good

[strange fjord]

why is terrain up if its stellar?

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Terapagos-Stellar: 262-310 (98.1 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

Not even Teraform Zero

[mighty stump]

lul

[strange fjord]

damn

[mighty stump]

I’m gonna go to bed. That’s enough interaction for me for one day

[molten oasis]

Gn tofu

[charred saddle]

talk to my uni work

[torpid venture]

Mines protect trick room glacial lance and stomping tantrum I can’t find a high horse power

[mighty stump]

Good luck with whatever

[timber falcon]

gn

[craggy dagger]

nevermind then

[solid frigate]

high horsepower.

[autumn vault]

Why ST?

[solid frigate]

USE HIGH HORSEPOWER.

[autumn vault]

High Horsepower in most cases is better

[torpid venture]

O don’t have dlc so no stoping tantrum

[charred saddle]

dw ill sleep soon, i choose sleep > work

[molten oasis]

Did none of you read the rest of the message

[torpid venture]

No high horse power

[molten oasis]

Might need to get a tm traded to you or smth

[torpid venture]

😭

[molten oasis]

Which I think you can do

[torpid venture]

WAIT

DOES MIRROR HERB WORK

[molten oasis]

Idk

[torpid venture]

and then I can get mudstalw

[molten oasis]

Yiu can try it

[torpid venture]

YE

I THINK I GOT A SPARE

Wait is skelidirge somewhat good

[solid frigate]

unaware go brrrr

[molten oasis]

It’s ok

[torpid venture]

Oh

[autumn vault]

It can check Koraidon Calyrex-Ice and Groudon so not bad but not good

It just has to live a p blades

[torpid venture]

So it’s mid

[solid frigate]

Groudon is Mid

[molten oasis]

Dirge is mid

[bold geode]

I'm mid

[molten oasis]

True

[autumn vault]

My opinions are mid

[solid frigate]

if you are mid

I'm abysmal then

[molten oasis]

if y'all are mid

then im decent

[solid frigate]

i mean you beat me loads of times lol

[forest arrow]

That’s what I was thinking lol

[timber falcon]

i rate myself to be a above decent tbh

[autumn vault]

If you all are mid except Drago then i am a bit decent

He is still a bit better than i am

[timber falcon]

confidence is key

[solid frigate]

ok if you are above decent then i am just slightly lower

[molten oasis]

so im good and yall are mid

is what im getting at, and tofu is god ofc

[autumn vault]

If you are above decent then i am above good

[timber falcon]

id say im good

[solid frigate]

I'm Average

I can still win games sure,But its all stupidly close

[autumn vault]

Tofu is just, good

[timber falcon]

with my best team at least, my wr is quite a bit abov average

[autumn vault]

With my teams my wr is above average

Like 60%

[timber falcon]

74%

[molten oasis]

thats gxe but ok

[timber falcon]

tofu is scary to play against lul

[molten oasis]

idt thats just outright your winrate

[autumn vault]

Well to be fair you are using pokemon that are the best rn and i use Zekrom

[timber falcon]

the team has also shown to be quite nice away from ladder

[molten oasis]

you can be 50/50 and have like, 55% gxe

[solid frigate]

my team is just 51.1%

[timber falcon]

really?

[molten oasis]

yea

[autumn vault]

My Zekrom team on switch had a 7 win streak

[timber falcon]

oh, well its just gxe then

[autumn vault]

And i lost twice with it

[solid frigate]

i think i have 5 win streak with my New Terapagos

[molten oasis]

in cart i am 7-0 with CIR

[timber falcon]

very nice

[solid frigate]

if you want a refresher then go to my rentals to see my team

[molten oasis]

i might, maybe make this team a rental or i'll make the one im not taking to NAIC

[timber falcon]

i think my highest undefeatd on low elo showdown was 11

[molten oasis]

i also just, i dont grind ladder

its not exactly fun

[timber falcon]

ladder i my lifelol

[autumn vault]

I don't grind ladder as much and i am playing FE3H a lot

[solid frigate]

its horrible

[molten oasis]

i'm gonna go play bo3 ladder soon tho

[timber falcon]

i find ladder climbing very fun lo, may even scream or bang my desk at times

[solid frigate]

also i just listen to Sonic Frontiers Music when i play Matches

[solid frigate]

damn i feel like i am the one that does not scream and ruin my desk when lost-

[molten oasis]

i get mad

which is also why i dont push myself

[timber falcon]

i get mad too, but i recover from is very fast

[solid frigate]

i did not really get mad on losses unless its a stall team

[timber falcon]

in the end its all fun and games

[molten oasis]

i get mad when i lose to stupid shit

[solid frigate]

same

[timber falcon]

i get u man

[molten oasis]

like idk, my rng

[solid frigate]

i lost to MEWTWO ONCE.

[molten oasis]

i did not max out my luck stat

[timber falcon]

etrnatus stall

[molten oasis]

infact i didn't invest in my luck stat

[solid frigate]

and that

[molten oasis]

i am just, not lucky

[timber falcon]

maybe u just dont count the lucky times

[solid frigate]

i just Invent on everything and benig average

[molten oasis]

i get lucky 2 maybe 3 times every week

[timber falcon]

i get lucky quite a loy lul

[molten oasis]

otherwise i get overly screwed sometimes

[timber falcon]

i think i count the times im lucky more than unlucky

anyone wanna B03? '

[strange fjord]

im down for a bo3

[timber falcon]

user?

[strange fjord]

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