competitive_discussion

[autumn vault]

And sun teams will be very common

If i ever need another wide guard user it could be Valiant or smth

[willow vault]

https://pokepast.es/875f1a7a4556444b. This team feels really good, considerably better than what I used before, probably because Miraidon is really good, I think Im like 7-0 in bo3 (set wise), I think I dropped 2 games so far (didn't save all the replays, Im sorry)

[autumn vault]

Unlike other players, atleast you dont go overkill with specs miraidon

[willow vault]

Miraidon Evs are not perfect

I just went for special attack bump and put the rest in bulk

Speed is to outspeed max speed torn

Need to do some bulk calcs but it feels good for rn

[willow vault]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[autumn vault]

Honestly very interesting sets

[willow vault]

Some reg d sets can’t lie

[autumn vault]

Leftovers Heatran and Jolly scarf Landorus

[willow vault]

Outspeed certain things

[autumn vault]

Then update them to the current format

[willow vault]

They are working rn, I don’t have the time to make better sets I got projects to complete will make spreads better when projects are done

[autumn vault]

Seems fair

I have my competitive team nearly ready so now i have so much time to do stuff without worrying about it too much

[willow vault]

Landorus speed was specific actually, wanted to outpace max speed miraidon (non scarf)

So I did tweak the sets I kinda just forgot I did

I need to fix that torn spread that’s still a focus sash spread my bad

[autumn vault]

ok

[willow vault]

good interesting or bad interesting?

[autumn vault]

Mixed interesting

[willow vault]

I can live with that

[autumn vault]

I can see them work but they are very questionable

[willow vault]

https://pokepast.es/2d671b0997ef5d4a

Got a different torn spread

[willow vault]

Which spread need an update? I’ll see what I can fix

I’d assume Heatran is one

[autumn vault]

Heatran

[willow vault]

Yeah

[autumn vault]

And Landorus-Therian

[willow vault]

Ok

[autumn vault]

Btw what is ogerpon EV'd for?

[willow vault]

Honestly I don’t remember

[autumn vault]

Low speed on it is just a drawback

[willow vault]

I’ll see if I can get a better spread

[autumn vault]

valiant tornadus and Miraidon all have good spreads

[willow vault]

Cool

[autumn vault]

But the other 3's spreads is very questionable

[willow vault]

Yeah that’s fair

What would you suggest to improve upon for each, bulk on Heatran, speed on Ogerpon. What should I target

[timber falcon]

I just got jumped by specs groudon wtf

[willow vault]

What

[timber falcon]

Ikr

Earth power was NOT expected

[autumn vault]

Heatran remove earth power for flash cannon

[willow vault]

To hit fairies?

[autumn vault]

That and STAB

[willow vault]

Yeah fair

[autumn vault]

Will-O-Wisp doesn't seem to be that good, you can remove it for earth power but i think testing it first is the best course of action before applying the change

[willow vault]

Will-o-wisp has been really good tbh

[autumn vault]

If it is doing good then you can keep it

[polar canyon]

Halving almost any pokemons attack sounds pretty valuable in most situations ngl

It should have 90 accuracy

Thunder wave and toxic have 90 accuracy so why is wisp 85

[willow vault]

Ok I’ve increased Heatrans physical bulk slightly to ensure survival against sacred sword Zacian at +1

[polar canyon]

Did you change it because that happened to you

[willow vault]

No I lived just security more than anything

[polar canyon]

I've had a 6.3% roll kill right after I made the calcs and changed my ogerpon

It's pretty disappointing for that to happen

Specs spread astral barrage

Unless it was modest

Do people run modest?

[willow vault]

No idea

I don’t use shadow horse

[polar canyon]

I should try using calyrex

[willow vault]

You think I should run full investment into bulk?

[polar canyon]

The best way to know how to beat something is experiencing the counter first hand

[willow vault]

For Heatran

[polar canyon]

What's the set?

[willow vault]

wisp, heat wave, protect and flash cannon

[autumn vault]

I dont think so

[willow vault]

Ok

[polar canyon]

What else are you worried about it surviving?

[willow vault]

Kyogre, when I grass Tera, want to eat an ice beam

[polar canyon]

If you want you can calc for sword of ruim sacred sword zacian

Can it even live that?

[willow vault]

Let me check

By using Tera I always survive +1 behemoth blade with sword of ruin

[autumn vault]

I think i will build a calyrex shadow team with Weezing + Regigigas

[autumn vault]

neat

[willow vault]

Without Tera I always die to sacred sword + sword of ruin at +1

[polar canyon]

Why

[autumn vault]

Because Regigigas is my 3rd favourite legend and Calyrex shadow is unnafected by neutralizing gas

[polar canyon]

Well yeah weezing seems nice rn

[willow vault]

From jolly 252 attack (do they run absolute attack?)

[polar canyon]

Does it block crimson pulse and the miraidon one?

[autumn vault]

*Orichalcum Pulse

And also Hadron Engine

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1007: Koraidon

Types

Fighting/Dragon

Abilities

Orichalcum Pulse

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/135/115/85/100/135

Total

670

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[polar canyon]

Yeah

Orichalcum

[dapper crag]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[willow vault]

With adamant absolute max damage it has a 43% chance to OHKO if I Tera and they call it with behemoth blade, sacred sword does like 55-65% at absolute max attack

[polar canyon]

Why does calyrex even get to ignore it

Crazy

They made calyrex as broken as possible

It doesn't even need the ability to the broken but they gave it special moxie just to also make it snowball extremely fast

And you can't get rid of it

Oh well

Loses to snarl ig

[willow vault]

Jesus Heatran eats a hit from Calyrex shadow, it takes like 33-41% with a bulked out spread

Even eats a specs hit comfortably, I’m impressed

[polar canyon]

Flutter is now discount caly shadow

Nah it has some utility too

I mean what does it do that calyrex doesn't

Icy wind?

[willow vault]

Sun boost

[solid frigate]

but the main difference is that Flutter Can be used everywhere soooo

[autumn vault]

Being annoying as fuck in the regulations before G

F and E dont count

[willow vault]

What speed does Ogerpon-hearth want to hit?

Roughly?

[autumn vault]

Idk

[willow vault]

Ok

[solid frigate]

188 for most wellspring,idk about Hearthflame

[polar canyon]

Max?

[willow vault]

thanks

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[willow vault]

so just as much as I can afford to without sacrificing to much bulk or power

[calm narwhal]

Anyone have a pokemon they need a new Tera in exchange for one of my pokemon getting Tera fairy

[willow vault]

Found a hearthflame set

[autumn vault]

good

[willow vault]

https://pokepast.es/ffeda1cb6c6824fd

New Spreads, explained my reasonings for them

[solid frigate]

nice

[polar canyon]

Surely it's not a bad idea to swap protect for calm mind on ursaluna right

[willow vault]

?

[solid frigate]

welp time to cook meals for my family rn,I'll see you all in a bit

[polar canyon]

Because getting drops from parting shot and having nothing to do but switch is annoying

[willow vault]

ursaluna?

[polar canyon]

Blood moon

[willow vault]

I don't have ursaluna

[polar canyon]

Me

My own ursaluna

[willow vault]

oh nvm

are you ghost tera to eat fake out atleast

[polar canyon]

Yea

[willow vault]

then ok I guess, probably ask more people I don't know much about ursaluna

[polar canyon]

Should I use farigiraf or indeedee

[willow vault]

does leave it a bit exposed though

[polar canyon]

I wanna use tr dusk mane so redirection could be nice

But it gets bullied by rilla

[willow vault]

farigiraf unless you have an expanding force user

[polar canyon]

Fari and amoonguss?

[willow vault]

makes sense

[polar canyon]

I'm thinking about indeedee because it's redirection + prio stopping

Idk if I want tera ghost on necrozma because it's gonna die to caly s

[willow vault]

it also then protects your opponents mons from priority, so if they have a calyrex-s you can't sucker punch it

so they have no need to tera if you run expanding force

[polar canyon]

It does protect me even when it leaves the field

[willow vault]

psychic terrain even

[willow vault]

it gets removed by both rilla and miraidon

[polar canyon]

As much as I can use it to remove rilla and miraidon

It's gonna be awkward when both me and the opponent keep indeedee and miraidon in the back waiting to send it last

[solid frigate]

I'm honestly not sure if my team needs Hearhflame or Wellspring

https://pokepast.es/0c8241e2754b2ac3

i can't remove Amoongus

[willow vault]

What are you struggling with matchup wise?

[polar canyon]

Anyone got good calyrex teams?

[willow vault]

No

[polar canyon]

I wanna use it and see what beats me the most

Then I'll use that on other teams

[willow vault]

I refuse to join the dark side, even if they have cookies

[little plank]

Amoonguss seems like such a strong mon right now

[willow vault]

It is

[solid frigate]

i'm fine with The Weather Trio rn, but Any stall teams with Amoonguss ruins my chance of Winning

[little plank]

I see amoonguss with caly I and I cry

[willow vault]

Then hearthflame probably will help, it’s better at breaking open teams namely against amoongus

[polar canyon]

Hear me out, use calyrex, take notes on what you lose to the most while using it, stop using it, and start using what killed calyrex

[willow vault]

But obviously some matchups will be harder when you lose wellspring

[willow vault]

Most of the time I lose to it, its in cts, in ots when I know its set I usually win

[solid frigate]

no need to change EVs?

[solid frigate]

same with me

[willow vault]

You’ll want to change evs

[solid frigate]

I JUST MADE THE EVs-

[willow vault]

It’s a different mon I’m sorry, but the wellspring evs are good

[autumn vault]

Me get gunned

[willow vault]

So win against it and don’t take notes, genius

[solid frigate]

i did use Wellspring EVs on it and i think its fine,i'll test

[autumn vault]

Look under that

[willow vault]

Ok

[willow vault]

Guns? This isn’t palworld

[autumn vault]

Me get gunned because i used the cleffa gun on the campfire

[willow vault]

Oh

[autumn vault]

Palkemon

I love this emoji

[willow vault]

But we will use a firing squad if you use Calyrex

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/firing-squad-gif-25795267

Us rn

[willow vault]

[solid frigate]

Palkia:That was not me

[autumn vault]

Btw i got the Cleffa Gun from the Unite server

[willow vault]

Just saving this for later

[willow vault]

Nice

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/cleffa.png

[autumn vault]

Origins: Unite Server
Who sent it: Lycopoky but from Team Flare

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/kingler.png

[polar canyon]

Well

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/urshifu-rapidstrike.png

[polar canyon]

Any amoonguss sets?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/clefable.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/amoonguss.png

[willow vault]

That’s so disappointing

[stray badger]

Is that the back sprite?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-shiny/moltres-galar.png

[willow vault]

No just the April fools version of clefable

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-back/clefable.png

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/dialga.png

[willow vault]

Birb

[autumn vault]

Bad theme

[stray badger]

Turned it around:D

[autumn vault]

Ngl

[solid frigate]

why the april fools sprite on Dialga looks not like april fools

[willow vault]

:/

[autumn vault]

:v

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/greninja.png

[stray badger]

Because it's based on a real thing, the joke is that they never used it again

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-shiny/minccino.png

[willow vault]

That’s good

[autumn vault]

Greninja spiked mario in SSBU

[willow vault]

I love gimping people like that in smash

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/lugia.png

[autumn vault]

True

[solid frigate]

even worse,Hydro Pump.

[willow vault]

This is bad

[stray badger]

Luigi-a

[willow vault]

What is this

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/terapagos.png

[autumn vault]

As a Dedede player i love spiking enemies, especially with how slow that penguin is, wish he used his forgotten land/RTDLDX model

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/terapagos.png

[willow vault]

Turtle soup

[solid frigate]

Sad boi

[autumn vault]

🤮

[willow vault]

What is this

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/terapagos-terastal.png

[solid frigate]

Terapagos

[willow vault]

You know you want to try turtle soup

[autumn vault]

Hell nah

[willow vault]

The why try drawing this?

[solid frigate]

insert Jack Black

[autumn vault]

Because it is too hard to draw perfectly

[willow vault]

Oh fair

[willow vault]

Don’t lie

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-test-no-lies-detected-lies-lying-detection-gif-4173107

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/terapagos-stellar.png

[stray badger]

Turtles all the way down

[willow vault]

So you want to eat turtle soup?

[willow vault]

That’s nice

[autumn vault]

No

[willow vault]

[solid frigate]

i need turtle Christmas Tree

[willow vault]

I don’t

[autumn vault]

Don't use my trickery against me

[willow vault]

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/torchic.png

[willow vault]

Don’t threaten me, every meme you post just gives me more weapons

[solid frigate]

where is the KFC reference

[willow vault]

[stray badger]

They literally made 2 sprites for every pokemon and a recolor for each

All of them have back sprites too

[autumn vault]

Obama if he was snow:

[willow vault]

I love the obamasnow emote it may be my favourite

[willow vault]

Obama has joined forces with kyurem-white what do we do?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-back/abomasnow.png

[autumn vault]

Send a +6 attack +6 speed outrage Zekrom

[willow vault]

No way

[autumn vault]

It will maul through every single one of 'em

[willow vault]

Then he realises it focus sash

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/greninja-ash.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/kyurem-white.png

[autumn vault]

EV it to tank a Blizzard

[solid frigate]

Why give me bad memories-

[autumn vault]

Solution complete

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/kyurem.png

[willow vault]

[autumn vault]

Or slap a sash/Yachi berry

[stray badger]

Why Kyurem black old?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/whimsicott.png

[autumn vault]

That is normal Kyurem

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/snom.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/kyurem-black.png

[stray badger]

Kyurem is just old

[solid frigate]

Kyurem:Back in my da-

[autumn vault]

This is Kyurem Black

[willow vault]

Is was gonna say that

[willow vault]

Snow has some interesting beliefs

[solid frigate]

Communism at its finest

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-back/kyurem-black.png

[stray badger]

Kyurem back

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/palkia.gif

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/sableye.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/palkia.png

[solid frigate]

PALKIA WHAT HAPPENED

[willow vault]

I’ve seen this before it’s so good

I used Palkia on April fools nice morning that

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/dialga-origin.png

[solid frigate]

Dialga has Squidward reaction

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/abomasnow-mega.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/honchkrow.png

[willow vault]

No Mafia meme?

[autumn vault]

It ate too much McDonalds that is what happened

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/giratina.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/giratina-origin.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/rayquaza-mega.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/palkia-origin.png

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[solid frigate]

H O N S E

[willow vault]

You when I offer turtle soup

[stray badger]

I did use the April Fools, right?

[willow vault]

No idea

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-card-gif-24856155

Eat turtle soup sir

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/palkia-origin.png

[willow vault]

But I want to eat it

[stray badger]

No yeah the joke is just Palkia-Origin

[willow vault]

I think it’s jaws messed up

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/palkia-origin.png

[solid frigate]

gun him down bois we need Turtle Protection plan

[willow vault]

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/blastoise-mega.png

[willow vault]

Is that blastoice?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/blastoise.png

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/arceus.png

[autumn vault]

That invented the letter O

[willow vault]

We may end up retiring tofu at this rate

[solid frigate]

Mega Blastoise

[willow vault]

Oh

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/blastoise-gmax.png

[willow vault]

Nice

Anyways we enjoying the regulation so far?

[autumn vault]

Yes

[willow vault]

Nice

[solid frigate]

eh 50/50

I like killing Ghost Horses tho

[autumn vault]

The worst part about it is Calyrex-Ice but outside of that its going great

[willow vault]

I’m enjoying more that I’m not losing all the time

[autumn vault]

Anyone want to Bo3?

[stray badger]

I have successfully made the chat into AFD mode

[autumn vault]

I want to test something

[solid frigate]

mine is Koraidon,Caly Ice,Zamazenta and Stall teams

Stall in VGC is just,Idk wtf

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/calyrex-ice.png

[autumn vault]

·

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/calyrex-shadow.png

[solid frigate]

ok that actually is sick

[stray badger]

He weak little arms can't hold the lance

[autumn vault]

·

[solid frigate]

Good.

[willow vault]

Let me get my laptop

[autumn vault]

Ok

I will wait

[willow vault]

Got it

[autumn vault]

Username Lycopoky Slimesy

Yours is Cr3phace right?

[willow vault]

Yeah

[autumn vault]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2111453409

Battle

[willow vault]

gg

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2111453409
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2111456859
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2111459990
Man that was close, ggs

[willow vault]

Those were some good games

[autumn vault]

That was very close

[willow vault]

Do you know if the crit mattered game 2?

[autumn vault]

I think i could have protected Zekrom there and bring in wellspring

[willow vault]

Yeah, I was gunning for it

You played well though

[autumn vault]

60% while burned at +1

[willow vault]

It didn’t fair enough

[autumn vault]

What is your miraidon's bulk?

[willow vault]

148hp and 36 def

Just random amounts of bulk tbh, I had not solved the bulk I wanted

[autumn vault]

+1 36+ Atk Teravolt Zekrom Dragon Claw vs. 148 HP / 36 Def Miraidon: 210-248 (108.2 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[autumn vault]

+1 36+ Atk Teravolt Zekrom Dragon Claw vs. 148 HP / 36 Def Miraidon on a critical hit: 314-372 (161.8 - 191.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Crit did not matter

[willow vault]

Heatran was so good

[autumn vault]

Those were very intense ngl

If heatran did not have wisp i would have won

[willow vault]

Game 2 was terrifying

[willow vault]

Wisp is very good

[autumn vault]

Especially in a meta with so many clear amulet users

[willow vault]

That’s why I wanted it

[autumn vault]

Atleast you demostrated it

[willow vault]

That adjustment game 2 was really good I really struggled with the speed disadvantage

[autumn vault]

I am the type of person to believe in test results more than what people reccomend

[willow vault]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[autumn vault]

You had a few chances to burn, you didn't

[willow vault]

Yeah same, but those sets were awful before in all fairness

[willow vault]

Nerves tbh

[solid frigate]

also isn't like Zekrom more like an Underdog rn

[autumn vault]

True

[solid frigate]

anyways

[solid frigate]

like you did not expect it to be good but its still decent

[willow vault]

I did click will-o-wisp when you fake outed me game 2

[autumn vault]

I expected it to perform decently, it did slightly better than my expectations

There are still better legends

[willow vault]

More than anything I was surprised I managed to keep up it didn’t look great from team preview for me, so many water types

[autumn vault]

It is surprisingly well balanced

[willow vault]

Anyway gg’s but I gotta make dinner

[willow vault]

I saw

[autumn vault]

Ok, bye

[solid frigate]

i already made my dinner for my family lol

[autumn vault]

If anyone wonders why all of my members have normal names and Zekrom has 3 words in it, i can explain

[solid frigate]

lmao

my farigiraf is just named as N E C K

[autumn vault]

The reason why it has this is because in Fire Emblem Awakening (spoiler ahead) ||Grima is the Fell Dragon (Also pretty black, which is why i named Zekrom after it) that was awakened from a 1000 year slumber and wants to create a future without humanity, as usual for an antagonist it fails and dies||

[solid frigate]

fair point,I did also named My Restricted from a JRPG Game

[autumn vault]

probably should have spoiler'd that

[solid frigate]

dude,mine is literally a spoiler to XC2

[autumn vault]

We all saw Pneuma in Smash Bros as an alt to Pyra/Mythra

[solid frigate]

but i mean the lore stuff

[autumn vault]

True

I also explained Grima's lore there

[willow vault]

I don’t nickname mons

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah,Pneuma can warp Reality Itself.

meanwhile Terapagos:Make the Professors travel back in time

they both technically have reality Warping Shenanagins

[autumn vault]

I will name my Terapagos Naga (a female but also has ||time travelling powers||)

[solid frigate]

nice

yeah i already want to name My Terapagos Pneuma cuz i just can't Unsee it

[autumn vault]

Naga in Fire Emblem Awakening ||Sent Lucina back in time to rewrite history as in her timeline Grima is about to destroy life so Naga sends Lucina and other characters back in time to rewrite history and prevent Grima from screwing over the timeline||

[solid frigate]

huh

[autumn vault]

So basically those 3 have reality warping shenanigans

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/unfezant.png

[autumn vault]

Trash

[willow vault]

Me if I was a turtle

[solid frigate]

||Pneuma is Pyra and Mythra's ascended form. She is the combined true form of Pyra and Mythra, merging both of their personalities into one.

As the embodiment of the true power of the Aegis, Pneuma is capable of rewriting the physical rules of her surroundings, resulting in all type of feats, from light-speed movement to slowing down time itself.||

[autumn vault]

Very interesting

[solid frigate]

||yep Pneuma is Basically a goddess at this point||

and if i give Terapagos a Clear Amulet,it fits even more

[autumn vault]

||Naga also can bless other character with power, like in the awakening ritual and is the Divine Dragon, although her power isn't enough to put down Grima for good, Grima is on their own level honestly||

[solid frigate]

wait if Naga vs Pneuma vs Grima who wins

[autumn vault]

Pneuma, she can delete both from existence
But like Naga said "A god's power isn't enough to put down another god"

Maybe Grima can win

Naga doesn't have a physical form

[solid frigate]

true

[autumn vault]

Grima is a dragon at the size of a giant castle

I am serious btw

Look at this

[solid frigate]

i know FE.

[autumn vault]

That is way too big

And the tower is very tall too

[solid frigate]

i mean Pneuma+Rex literally send A Titan down

[autumn vault]

I don't know Xenoblade well but yeah that might be true, and i believe you

But that thing is the size of the moon or smth

||The reason Chrom Robin and the army beat Grima is because Naga teleported them onto their neck which is where the possesed robin from the bad timeline is, the weak spot||

[solid frigate]

ok so its kinda like the good ol fashion dragon kill right

[autumn vault]

||If the weak spot is killed, the whole dragon falls||

[torn parrot]

I’m in a good mood today I received my package

[autumn vault]

Sort of,|| not stabbing the neck but killing the possesed robin from the timeline where Grima nearly destroys the world||

||The Robin is possesed by Grima||

[solid frigate]

oh i see

[torn parrot]

Imagine if terapagos was a rock normal like the rumors said

[solid frigate]

what is it?

[torn parrot]

A mystery

[solid frigate]

Yep i am dead to Urshifu and Koraidon

[autumn vault]

|| Then bring Booster Speed flutter to murder urshifu and koraidon ||

[torn parrot]

Why’s everything spoilered

Oh game spoilers

[autumn vault]

||I like Spoilering, i was explaining lore||

[torn parrot]

Gotcha gotcha

[autumn vault]

||Explaining lore = Spoiler tag||

It is for a 3DS game in 2012/2013 but still

I must slap it on

[solid frigate]

i mean mine is from 2017 but technically thats the reason why Pneuma is not popular ;-;

[autumn vault]

Doesn't the game have like 3 million copies sold?

[solid frigate]

2.72 million

[autumn vault]

Close to 3 million, but damn i would not expect it to be that low

[solid frigate]

which is suprisingly low for that cuz all 3 xenoblade games are masterpieces

[autumn vault]

Just from this i can tell you played all 3

[solid frigate]

i did not play 1

[willow vault]

In your opinion

[solid frigate]

2 is the most and 3 only lesser extent

[autumn vault]

Then why did you call 1 a masterpiece when you didn't play it?

[solid frigate]

because i saw the footage and stuff,i read lore :>

[rustic mountain]

wen u win a game u have no business winning

[autumn vault]

Ok

Not to you tree

[solid frigate]

F

[willow vault]

My opinion it’s a bit of a slog to play as it feels like a grind fest then when you complete the side missions you are crazy overleveled

[rustic mountain]

whys that an f? we take those

[solid frigate]

oh

[autumn vault]

Relatable

[willow vault]

Me vs Lyco

[rustic mountain]

lol

[autumn vault]

Game 1 and 3 were very close

[solid frigate]

thats why i do main missions before side missions

i want a sense of challenge of not being overleveled

[willow vault]

You deserved game 1 imo

[autumn vault]

Then game 3 wouldn't have existed

[willow vault]

Yep

[autumn vault]

But yes it was very close

[rustic mountain]

i think this person got too in their head, they had me pinned but then gave up that positioning

[autumn vault]

matches btw

[rustic mountain]

nd it gave me like the narrowest possibility of getting the w

[calm narwhal]

You think we get 0 iv items by the end of scarlet and violet ?

[rustic mountain]

nah

wouldve been in 1 of the 2 dlcs we got

[willow vault]

Hell nah

[calm narwhal]

That’s annoying

[willow vault]

No more updates on items

It is

[calm narwhal]

Okay just gotta deal with 31 iv I guess

[next stump]

2-0 Joe

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2111493288-99zeo70muedu4o2rxwco4rdbxv2s24cpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2111494623-6dr3lr0jri4hfp4vb60pmvw4f9iuthbpw

[rustic mountain]

clutch peli survival in g1

also me yoinking that team comp: 🫴

[solid frigate]

urshifu even with Attack Drop still did ton of damage-

[molten oasis]

[next stump]

crits bypass attack drop

[solid frigate]

ojh

[calm narwhal]

Is everybody running speed + attack down nature on calyrex

Or is more people using SPA+ ATK down

Yes

Shadow

[solid frigate]

timid mostly

i think

i haven't play a single Calyrex i am not sure

[rustic mountain]

id imagine ud want timid so at worst ur speed tieing other csr, tho that is a miserable board state i try and avoid

im personally max speed timid

[calm narwhal]

I know this is it big off topic but

What are you guys doing for Tera shards just running around the indigo disk over and over til you find the corresponding types ?

[next stump]

item printer, Blissey event raids when they come around

[willow vault]

Look on the map, and complete raids. I don’t have the item printer but will use that

[rustic mountain]

i had a bunch of materials from grinding previously and just did the item printer, also the glimmering charm from teal mask dex completion boosts the shard rate by quite a bit

takes like 4-5 raids to get 50 depending on the star amount

[willow vault]

Glimmering charm is so good

[rustic mountain]

yea havent really had to worry about shard grinding thankfully since that and the item printer

making them so low originally and u need 50 everytime to change was so much more miserable then swsh, i just use like 9-10 dmax candies once and im done

[calm narwhal]

How do I access glimmering charge

[rustic mountain]

gta read man

[calm narwhal]

Did it take you guys forever to upgrade the printers

Idk I just wasn’t that brave

[autumn vault]

Took a bit for me

Yes it was a bit annoying but it isn't too bad

[calm narwhal]

Like a few hours?

@autumn vault

[bold geode]

Reading is hard

[torn parrot]

Oh shit I just realized naic is reg G

I’m dupid

[bold geode]

Ye
Next regional in Indy is G

[autumn vault]

If it is the charm, yes

[molten oasis]

yuh

NAIC is reg g

[autumn vault]

I don't go to tournaments because in my location we never get regionals

[torn parrot]

Exciting stuff

Prepare for a whole lot of stolen regional teams to take over the ladder

[bold geode]

Drago

[autumn vault]

Let me make a prediction: StupidRex shadow will win the reg

[molten oasis]

yuh

what monke

[solid frigate]

i swear i'm fighting someone who uses Dragon Pulse Haxourus

Why

[molten oasis]

low elo moment

[bold geode]

Would you Nasty Plot a Gholdengo from China No 3 Shrek edition?

[autumn vault]

I am suffering from others stupidity

[solid frigate]

no its casual,even worse

[molten oasis]

no

[bold geode]

Y not

[molten oasis]

the ivs are bad

[bold geode]

Fair
Just bottle cap tho

[solid frigate]

i was like Why,I was Expecting a Dragon Dance-

[molten oasis]

it also isnt shiny, although that shiny is dodo lol

[bold geode]

"The China No 3 Gholdengo has 69 attack IVs, it says nice"

[autumn vault]

Dragon Dance >>>>>>>>> Dragon Pulse Haxorus

[solid frigate]

bro STELLAR KROOKDILE

WHAT THE FU

[autumn vault]

Atleast it isn't as stupid

[brazen bough]

Im surprised peli is doing so well

[solid frigate]

but acid spray Elektross-

[brazen bough]

Its prob gonna be a early format thing tho

[molten oasis]

groudon is on fraud watch

[torn parrot]

Peli has a lot of good tools but I think people are just struggling to find the right partners

[autumn vault]

Yay Elektross

[molten oasis]

and we thought groudon was gonna be extemely dominant

[solid frigate]

Urshifu?

[autumn vault]

Ogerpon?

[molten oasis]

precipmiss blades

[autumn vault]

Zekrom? Maybe

[solid frigate]

Night Shade Chandelure.

Yep i lost hope

[autumn vault]

Humanity in a nutshell:

[solid frigate]

and i get a double protect lol

[torn parrot]

Yeah those are the obvious picks

But you’ve seen people have started taking Peli without even having another water type

[autumn vault]

1 word to represent humanity: Why

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/fomantis.png

[solid frigate]

like genuinely,I faced 2 teams that does not do shit to my restricted team

[bold geode]

One word to represent humanity: Mustard Leaf

[autumn vault]

2 words not 1

[willow vault]

That’s 2 words

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[solid frigate]

and now i full Kanto Squad, that is miserable

[autumn vault]

Correction: MustardLeaf

[solid frigate]

Golem,Electabuzz,Arbok,Magmar,Venusaur and Seadra

[bold geode]

1 is after 1, dumbass

[willow vault]

[molten oasis]

monke what does 1+1 equal

[bold geode]

[willow vault]

snomgun

[autumn vault]

Math'd him

[bold geode]

Hot dog

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bunny-gun-gif-23859392

[solid frigate]

wait is seadra still a water type?

[solid frigate]

oh wait it is

[molten oasis]

no wonder you think its 1 word

[torn parrot]

Case number 1

[molten oasis]

wha

[autumn vault]

Do you know it?

[torn parrot]

Wild shit

[solid frigate]

I'm literally burning casual players with Ogerpon=

[lofty tartan]

That's not even a "bad" set. Just unusual.

[molten oasis]

seems this format remains to be somewhat diverse

[willow vault]

Who are you talking to?

[lofty tartan]

Not you.

[torn parrot]

This was the 187 person tournament too

[willow vault]

Cool

[autumn vault]

Couldn't have agreed more

[torn parrot]

Oh I didn’t mean to say the ogerpon set was bad just the fact that it was grass

[molten oasis]

stop with the clef with a gun plz

[bold geode]

Hey
I know English
Sodium chloride and all that bullshit

[autumn vault]

Clefgun spam

[molten oasis]

youre driving it into the ground

[autumn vault]

OK

[molten oasis]

[willow vault]

Ok

[autumn vault]

Ok i will seriously stop

[solid frigate]

Finally a good team

Incin,Crown,Bundle,Miraidon,Peli and Sableeye

[molten oasis]

bundle mirai was overhyped

[lofty tartan]

"Good"

[willow vault]

But will I?

[lofty tartan]

Crown on ETerrain is just inferior.

[autumn vault]

I was talking about myself

[willow vault]

Bundle isn’t its best partner imo

[bold geode]

I see nothing wrong here

[solid frigate]

at least is better than what i facing 3 matches before

[molten oasis]

yea its hearthflame imo

[autumn vault]

Agreed

[willow vault]

You must continue

[molten oasis]

i dont event think its an eterrain mon

[willow vault]

It so is

[molten oasis]

cuz the mons used on eterrain suck lol

[autumn vault]

I will shoot you with a clefgun ×2

[willow vault]

Only one I used is valiant for wide guard + cc

[lofty tartan]

I mean you're queuing into casual ladder and scrutinizing the effectiveness of your opponents' team based on selection of their six.

Fundamentally, you're in casual ladder so you're going to get a lot of people who don't give a squat about competitive.

[torn parrot]

There’s nothing wrong

But there’s no water types showing people are running peliper without water oger or Urshifu

[lofty tartan]

You gotta question the logic of that.

[molten oasis]

yea valiant good, on eterrain

[willow vault]

It wasn’t my meme in the first place

[solid frigate]

bruh why set up tailwind infront of Fari-

[torn parrot]

And it’s interesting to me

[bold geode]

Miraidon be not as good rn basically cuz it's partner paradox mons

[molten oasis]

suck, yea

[autumn vault]

But you spam it into the ground

[willow vault]

Really helps Heatran out

[molten oasis]

who is using heatran

[autumn vault]

Creph

[solid frigate]

who in the right mind,Tailwind infront of Fari

[willow vault]

Then use other partners

[molten oasis]

why are you using heatran

[autumn vault]

Wisp and Bulk

[willow vault]

Will-o-wisp, great typing and bulk

[molten oasis]

cough cough incineroar

[lofty tartan]

This chat.

[willow vault]

Cough cough, no

[autumn vault]

Not comparable

[molten oasis]

what?

wtf are you talking about?

[autumn vault]

Heatran and Incineroar have 2 things in common: defensive typing and great stats

[willow vault]

Heatran can invalidate some teams

[molten oasis]

yea incineroar is better

[autumn vault]

That is about it

[molten oasis]

because theres no one prepping for it

[willow vault]

Depends what you need

[molten oasis]

ok

[solid frigate]

Heatran has better defensive typing but Incin is better overall

[molten oasis]

do you need wisp? go play incin with wisp

[willow vault]

I know I wanted a defensive mon and Heatran fit my team better

[autumn vault]

Incin is supportive, heatran is offensive

[molten oasis]

honestly

the ground 4x weakness holds it back

[autumn vault]

Intimidate is a bit worse now that amulet exists

[autumn vault]

But 5 quad resistances help it

[molten oasis]

not when it has to tera infront of dirt

[solid frigate]

WAIT 5???

[autumn vault]

Iirc yes

[willow vault]

Yep

[torn parrot]

I remember when hydreigon was that guy

[dapper crag]

- [Fire/Steel]

Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug, Fairy, Grass, Ice, Steel

Resists (0.5x)

Dragon, Flying, Normal, Psychic

Neutral damage

Dark, Electric, Fire, Ghost, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Water

Weak (4x)

Ground

Type Notes

Fire-types cannot be Burned.
Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[torn parrot]

🐇

[dapper crag]

Heatran [Fire/Steel]

Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug, Fairy, Grass, Ice, Steel

Resists (0.5x)

Dragon, Flying, Normal, Psychic

Neutral damage

Dark, Electric, Fire, Ghost, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Water

Weak (4x)

Ground

Type Notes

Fire-types cannot be Burned.
Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

you also hate urshifu

[autumn vault]

So does incin

[willow vault]

So does incin

[molten oasis]

you're not wiping any of the big guys out

[willow vault]

Neither is incin

What are we talking about

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

Heatran is Heatran
Incineroar is Incineroar

[molten oasis]

i regret coming in here

[solid frigate]

why does Mirai teams feel easy to beat for me-

[autumn vault]

Same for me

[molten oasis]

so bye, have fun with your fucking heatran

[willow vault]

I gave reasons for why I use Heatran, incin may be better but I’m using Heatran

[molten oasis]

mr "so does incin" when incin is literaly better

[autumn vault]

Let him enjoy the lava cockroach man

[molten oasis]

ahfhasghaosghashdg

bye

[autumn vault]

Let me enjoy SpA landorus therian

[solid frigate]

like i get it Terapagos is just bulky against it

[autumn vault]

Bye, have a good day

[willow vault]

Why are people so mad

[autumn vault]

Heatran and Incin have different roles

Knock off, parting shot, physical attacker, taunt, heatran has none of that

[bold geode]

Uh oh he's having a stroke again

[pastel blade]

🤣

[molten oasis]

monke im trying not to be in here

[autumn vault]

Heatran is offensive

[molten oasis]

the pings are annoying so dont ping me

[willow vault]

I just couldn’t be asked after a while, why can’t I use something I like

[autumn vault]

Incin is supportive

[bold geode]

Huh?

[molten oasis]

because youre using it unoptimally

[bold geode]

Incin is not really that offensive lmao

[willow vault]

If you don’t want to be here, go

[molten oasis]

if you want wisp theres better mos for that

[autumn vault]

I cant use SpA Landorus without Drago telling me to use landorus i

[molten oasis]

because its better?

[autumn vault]

Let me use intimidate

[solid frigate]

my god,Beating Miraidon teams are suprsingly easy

[autumn vault]

It might be a very good thing

[willow vault]

Most people just add future paradoxes and they really aren’t it

[molten oasis]

well if you want intimidate incin is right there

[autumn vault]

Besides there is hardly any intimidators that use SpA

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 645: Landorus-Therian

Types

Ground/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

89/145/90/105/80/91

Total

600

Base Species

Landorus

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[autumn vault]

And it is nice to also avoid intimidate

[molten oasis]

that is going to hit everything like a wet noodle

[autumn vault]

It will hit hard with L-Orb and specs

[solid frigate]

I'm just weak to Koraidon,Zamzenta,Caly Ice and both Kyurems

[molten oasis]

105 on a generally more offensive mon isnt good, and you're wasting your time with it

[bold geode]

If you want Wisp lmao
Tbh it's not as necessary as you think but if so
Sableye, Incineroar, hell offensive could be Harc

[willow vault]

Damn

[molten oasis]

wow i hit as hard as a normal special attacker

[bold geode]

Heatran ain't it for Wisp I'm sorry

[molten oasis]

without any boosts

[willow vault]

Welp Terapagos is cool atleast

[willow vault]

Cool

[molten oasis]

gholdengo is good into most of those

[bold geode]

That's honestly just copium lmfao

[solid frigate]

but then tofu said Its a dead slot for my team so

i use Raging Bolt

[molten oasis]

well cuz dengo overlaps with terapagos so i get that

[autumn vault]

It was done before in dynamax formats, without Dmax it has potential

[solid frigate]

I'm pulling Raging Bolt out of the retirement Home

[molten oasis]

i feel like you could handle those with terapagos, i dont see how bolt helps you with those mu's

[solid frigate]

Both Miraidon and Terapagos Looks cool,Heck all the legendaries looks cool

[molten oasis]

ok but lando i wasnt relevant

[willow vault]

They do indeed

[molten oasis]

now it is

so you ALWAYS go lando i if you consider special lando t

[solid frigate]

idk then

[autumn vault]

True but Landorus Therian has intimidate and has more flexibility

[solid frigate]

Bolt kinda clutch me up

[molten oasis]

brother

[autumn vault]

Instead of L-Orb every time

[molten oasis]

if you're going to use lando t

you always scarf tera flying tera blast

or clear amulet

[autumn vault]

What i also meant by more flexibility

[molten oasis]

special lando t will hit like a wet noodle

[karmic temple]

Only one more week until reg G who we cooking with bois goirls and inbetweens

[molten oasis]

what part of that has not gotten to your head

[willow vault]

So what we learned is not all the mons used are always optimal but we chose them for some reason and if it works well enough, it works well enough (unless for tourney then that’s different)

[autumn vault]

If Landorus Incarnate hits pretty good then specs Landorus Therian can hit hard just less than Incarnate

[molten oasis]

no

[solid frigate]

Turtl

[molten oasis]

lando i has more base spa than lando t

[autumn vault]

Zekrom

[willow vault]

Miraidon

[autumn vault]

Only 10 more

[molten oasis]

lando i always hits harder, and no specs doesn't make up for it

that 10 really matters

[autumn vault]

'

[mighty stump]

While I do think that you probably shouldn't be looking to use Specs on Lando-T

[molten oasis]

omg

[karmic temple]

Tofu is orange again !!!

[molten oasis]

ill be back

[willow vault]

Yeah

[mighty stump]

You probably have bigger issues on the team if you're looking for such a convoluted answer

[bold geode]

But Lando I is just there

[mighty stump]

Plus, why does the coverage have to be SpA

[karmic temple]

Congrats on Devoncorp btw

[mighty stump]

tysm

[chrome knot]

tofu

[willow vault]

That’s is massive

[molten oasis]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Landorus-Therian Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 163-193 (92.6 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO chance with no bulk and thats modest

[autumn vault]

Other intimidators, physically bulkier pokemon, not much else

[molten oasis]

252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 179-212 (101.7 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

thats timid

[autumn vault]

Why we use tera flying blast

[mighty stump]

.

[molten oasis]

im gonna blow a gasket

[autumn vault]

For urshifu

[mighty stump]

It's not that deep

[chrome knot]

we have like an open play day for vg coming up so like casual tourney ive made a team of metronome users

[willow vault]

Then take a break

[bold geode]

This is stupid lol

[autumn vault]

This is just a pointless argument really

[molten oasis]

you're right its not that deep its how stupid this idea is

[karmic temple]

I’m glad to see nothing has changed in the weeks I’ve been gone

[autumn vault]

If it even is one

[willow vault]

Nothing ever really changes

[autumn vault]

145 is a very high attack stat

[mighty stump]

I mean, you have a history of insisting upon, if i'm being honest, pretty bad concepts

[bold geode]

Yeah it's pointless cuz Specs Landot just ain't it chief I'm sorry
Sniffin that copium brother

[molten oasis]

so why would you use adamant

are you talking to me tofu?

ik i had bad ideas i used to be an idiot

[mighty stump]

but I don't disagree with the reasoning, i'm just saying soemthing else went wrong along the way to reach this point

[karmic temple]

Ur pfp 😩

[mighty stump]

no, lycopoky

[autumn vault]

I also had bad ideas

[willow vault]

How bad is my history of terrible ideas?

[chrome knot]

what did i stumble into…

[molten oasis]

just clarifying

[mighty stump]

Specs Lando-T

[autumn vault]

But to be honest the ones from months ago is when i was way worse

[chrome knot]

wha

[molten oasis]

yea

[mighty stump]

Like if you're really desperate for an intimidator and a ground-type one and you land on Specs Lando-T then like I think something went wrong in your process

[chrome knot]

guys we’re not singles players

[autumn vault]

I have stuff to do, it was just an idea

[chrome knot]

bando t however

[autumn vault]

An idea meant to be harmless

[molten oasis]

band hurts

[willow vault]

Just curious what is my worst idea I’ve shared here?

[mighty stump]

There is such a thing is a wrong opinion...

[autumn vault]

Band hits like a damn truck but loses flexibility

[karmic temple]

As is with any choice item

[molten oasis]

so flutter being specs loses flexibility

[mighty stump]

It's called a Choice item

[molten oasis]

of not being able to click a different move?

[autumn vault]

Flutter is not a intimidator

[molten oasis]

thats the whole point lol

[autumn vault]

Landorus has U-Turn

So clicking something not u turn can force landorus to switch without using u turn

[willow vault]

It’s probably bronzong, can’t remember any other ideas

[autumn vault]

The worst one i shared is flamethrower hydro pumo tailwind draco meteor Salamence

[willow vault]

What the

[autumn vault]

That was in like, october

[solid frigate]

my worst idea is that i make Incin Max Attack for some reason

[willow vault]

Huh

[solid frigate]

welp i am screwed am i

[molten oasis]

monke is that really you're username

cuz no one else would use that with that pfp

[willow vault]

Why?

[molten oasis]

mm nvm he changed it, that or i assumed wrong

[willow vault]

Oh we are all happier now that’s fun

[molten oasis]

if i assumed wrong my bad

[solid frigate]

well...

the one typing-

[willow vault]

That

[solid frigate]

anyways

[willow vault]

Landorus-t with scarf is really fun

[autumn vault]

Anyways, so specs Landorus-the-

[willow vault]

No

[autumn vault]

It was a joke

[solid frigate]

i used Scarf Lando once but thats about it

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[autumn vault]

Seriously though scarf landorus is very good

[molten oasis]

its alright

[chrome knot]

band

[willow vault]

It depends on the team comp but it can be good

[molten oasis]

rapid strike being scarf just ruins its life

[autumn vault]

It allows therian to outspeed annoying pokemon and with tera flying blast it can do very good damage

[molten oasis]

generally

[solid frigate]

then again,Chien Pao exists

[willow vault]

Can confirm

[molten oasis]

that and incarnate is the better form

i agree with emma tho band does crazy damage

[willow vault]

Depends on the team, but generally yeah

[molten oasis]

nah it just usually better im ngl

i really dont see a lot of situations where therian is better especailly with incin roaming around

if you need ground flying intimidate sure

that case just doesn't pop up much

[willow vault]

For me the deciding factor between the two is that ground + electric is really good. I’d rather not double up on special damage otherwise I can get walled quite hard by specially bulky mons, also u-turn helps me reset terrain

[molten oasis]

lando i shits on most of the specially bulky guys anyway

it hits so hard

[willow vault]

It does but switchability was kinda necessary just for my team specifically

Also I didn’t think about incarnate form when team building so now I’m not bothering to change form since the team is working well for me

[molten oasis]

ok

[willow vault]

ok

[torn parrot]

You know that peliper defense stat pretty tasty

[willow vault]

What is it?

[torn parrot]

100

[willow vault]

Damn

It’s that high?

[torn parrot]

Yeah was surprised
I guess it can be like moderately bulky

Doesn’t have to always have focus sash

[willow vault]

Yeah I guess

Fire Chicken

[solid frigate]

i need to calculate which MU is good against or weak against Terapagos

[mighty stump]

"calculate"

[willow vault]

Koraidon seems bad

[solid frigate]

nope,death sentence

[willow vault]

I meant for Terapagos

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

[solid frigate]

exactly.

[willow vault]

Terapagos is good into koraidon?

[molten oasis]

no its bad into it

[willow vault]

That’s what I was saying

[solid frigate]

i haven't rephrase my words,

I mean Terapagos is in death row against Koraidon

[willow vault]

Oh yeah we meant the same things sorry I misread

[solid frigate]

yeah its ok,at least we know our stuff now

[calm narwhal]

Does clear amulet work against clear smog

[solid frigate]

isn't just me,Or is there not that much Dusk Mane

[solid frigate]

i think it does work i think

[willow vault]

I have seen it once in like 50 games

[mighty stump]

No it doesn't

[willow vault]

Not all that common

[solid frigate]

ok no wonder why the Amoonguss did not clear smog my Terapagos-

[solid frigate]

i list it as not much data

[willow vault]

Fair

[solid frigate]

at least i saw Dawn Wings

[torn parrot]

It doesn’t work against clear amulet?

I thought the stat wipe thing was different from stat lowering

[dapper crag]

Item: Clear Amulet

Prevents other Pokemon from lowering the holder's stat stages.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[bold geode]

What

[torn parrot]

I gotta test this

[molten oasis]

we saw someone named incineroars husbando

i thought it was you lol

[bold geode]

Oh that's not me lmao

[willow vault]

I saw that name I was so confused

[mighty stump]

Zacian si so fucking shit

Wtf

[solid frigate]

i was scared if i get smite by him lol-

[molten oasis]

yeaaa

zac uh, idk how i feel about it rn

[mighty stump]

I'm saying Clear Smog clears the stats and Clear Amulet does not work against Smog

[bold geode]

Things changed
I got a new dog

[willow vault]

I didn’t like using it, didn’t feel good whatsoever

[torn parrot]

Oh no you were saying it DOESSSNT

I see

[calm narwhal]

I know parting shot doesn’t work against it

[karmic temple]

Pic and name

[bold geode]

My new dog is Zamazenta LFG

[calm narwhal]

It’s broken LOL

[molten oasis]

what feels bad about it

[solid frigate]

i feel like sure its still here just not as good as Dynamax Era

[karmic temple]

I fucking hate you

[mighty stump]

Its like trying harder for less payoff

[torn parrot]

Yeah my bad I totally misread

[willow vault]

?

[calm narwhal]

I am just trying to decide if calyrex is really getting one shot often enough to justify this focus sash

[bold geode]

Lmao
Do you not like Zamazenta

[karmic temple]

I EXPECTED AN ACTUAL DOG

[molten oasis]

yea, its kinda forced into 1 kind of set as well

[calm narwhal]

Because one nasty plot is just like dangerous but probably against mirroring calyrex you need it

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[karmic temple]

LMAO

[torn parrot]

Just my realization

[willow vault]

Oh ok

[bold geode]

Oh my bad lol
No just Zamazenta type shit

[molten oasis]

you're forced swords dance and then behemoth blade and a choice of play rough or sacred sword

[karmic temple]

Iron defense body press strats

[solid frigate]

Zamzenta just wipes Terapagos once set up- but i am glad that the Shield Doggo finally become good

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-heart-locket-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gholdengo-gif-27416880

i love seeing idbp

[willow vault]

Nice

[rustic mountain]

[willow vault]

I like seeing Kyogre, it’s cool

[rustic mountain]

i found the same in testing it

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/archaludon-pokemon-nintendo-pokémon-gif-16734536304579141225

[molten oasis]

kyogre beat the mid allegations

[bold geode]

Me when I Crunch and/or Snarl your bitchass

[willow vault]

It is pretty good

[molten oasis]

ok

[willow vault]

Sqwortle

[solid frigate]

POV:You are Kyogre

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

If you don't have consistent OHKO potential/intense survivability as a Restricted right now or bring something else to the table it's bad

Zacian-C has neither

[rustic mountain]

yea it feels gutted too. having the +1 just once per game limits how u play it in a lot of ways