dengo has natural synergy with it
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
mighty stump
dengo has natural synergy with it
How so
molten oasis
uh
well, terapagos has a positive mu into caly which dengo hates
dengo has a positive mu into zama which terapagos hates
its typing synergy and they like the same kinds of team styles, i think
if im wrong feel free to bash me lol
mighty stump
It's more like
You're gonna essentially be picking/choosing so they'll be playing for the same seat due to the similarity in team style
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/3b14b36efa039c74 here's 45mice's Terapagos concept
molten oasis
kyogre, suuuure but id rather archaludon on the steel slot
snow just feels kinda meh rn
solid frigate
well, terapagos has a positive mu into caly which dengo hates
isn't only Caly-S,Caly-I feels hard to remove for me
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/82eae7cf25f22dd3 here's my kyogre team, 51 games to 1600s with 74.5% GXE
molten oasis
dengo can generally beat caly i
solid frigate
dengo can generally beat caly i
HH would be a problem but Dengo is just so good
molten oasis
mm
idk
i've been really liking wellspring dengo rn
the restricted to use it with is not helping
molten oasis
...ok
solid frigate
So Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind?
molten oasis
no way im gonna get my hands on a 0 speed caly anytime soon, so just brave nature 31 ivs, idk
mighty stump
Is this going to be your NAIC team?
solid frigate
i think its strong
its strong against loads of matchups so it make sense to bring it
solid frigate
wellspring dengo just feels strong
It does feel an interesting duo
molten oasis
dengo also just, i really like the way dengo plays
solid frigate
dengo also just, i really like the way dengo plays
Insert Wolfey's Gholdengo Edit Music
molten oasis
so, ik the focus should probably be the restricted choice so idk
stuck finding THAT part of the team
i'll give caly a shot
solid frigate
stuck finding THAT part of the team
so we basically have opposite Problems, you can't find your restricted and i can't find my team members-
molten oasis
if it feels fine i'll go through hunting the 0 speed
solid frigate
I'm comfortable with Terapagos,but just the teammates that i need to think
mighty stump
if it feels fine i'll go through hunting the 0 speed
mhm
molten oasis
so, dengo wellspring caly, fari?
molten oasis
k
mighty stump
bloodmoon
lando-i as well; ground coverage
Raging Bolt useful for water types as well additionally
molten oasis
does caly i need trick room?
solid frigate
Raging Bolt useful for water types as well additionally
especially Tornshifu and Tornogre rn
molten oasis
hmm
solid frigate
i might bring back Raging Bolt for Support against Urshifu Rapid
mighty stump
does caly i need trick room?
Yes
molten oasis
k so, fari incin probably bloodmoon as that makes the most sense to me at least
then dengo wellspring caly
could do sd caly
or just go tr
bold geode
no way im gonna get my hands on a 0 speed caly anytime soon, so just brave natur...
Fuck now that I think about it
My Caly is 0 speed iirc
bold geode
I somehow first tried 0 spe Caly iirc without even trying
mighty stump
Just borrow Monke's Caly
molten oasis
yea monke gimme
solid frigate
i need a fari spread
Farigiraf @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 220 HP / 220 Def / 12 SpA / 52 SpD / 4 Spe
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dazzling Gleam
- Trick Room
- Psychic
- Helping Hand
I have one that can survive against Black Glasses Gambit
molten oasis
bold geode
<:fatratbeinggrabbed:924190427404464138>
Me when the rat won't make me cook better
solid frigate
if i go foul play you forgo psychic right?
I used Psychic for STAB and wide guard shenangins but Hyper Voice Throat Spray is nice
molten oasis
foul play is for both caly's
mighty stump
if i go foul play you forgo psychic right?
Prefer Psyshock as well
molten oasis
so psyshock/foul play?
solid frigate
foul play is for both caly's
oh wait- yeah run that
Gleams are for Koraidon and Miraidon
yes this is from my Dialga Origin Team
molten oasis
im guessing bloodmoon can just 252/252
solid frigate
im guessing bloodmoon can just 252/252
Max HP,SpA and Min Def or SpD?
mighty stump
im guessing bloodmoon can just 252/252
Probably ask Dillon tbh; I had a spread that lives CC from Urshifu but I've been using 252/252 for a while
solid frigate
wait.... Can i make Terapagos a Trick Room Team? it's Speed looks fine for a Trick Room Pokemon-
mighty stump
Not hard TR
molten oasis
@next stump you got a bloodmoon spread i can use?
solid frigate
Not hard TR
Like Hybrid TrickRoom Tailwind?
i mean i already got Farigiraf in Dialga team so why not i use it on both teams
next stump
244HP/252Spa/12Sp Def is what I’ve used a lot
I think you can get more creative but if you’re TR sweeper probably just want max/max (244HP is for life orb)
solid frigate
trying caly with dengo rn
Drago can i borrow your Dengo Spread?
god why does that sound like Gholdengo Sandwich jam-
molten oasis
Gholdy (Gholdengo) @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 60 Def / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
solid frigate
thanks
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/da40163f8943ecc8 how's this?
solid frigate
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/da40163f8943ecc8 how's this?
yeah it looks great
feeling nice on this team
WAIT WHY IS MY TORN HAVE NEGATIVE SPA NATURE
foggy lodge
I want to build a Okidogi team
timber falcon
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2110087567
Damn
im seeing so many more thunderus this reg
foggy lodge
What's the most common set? Something like AV, Drain Punch, Knock Off, Poison physical stab?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
im seeing so many more thunderus this reg
yea
timber falcon
this and AV
foggy lodge
What was gunk shot?
timber falcon
ogerpon killer
foggy lodge
Ohh, it doesn't learn poison jab?
timber falcon
it does
foggy lodge
I think i prefer Poison Jab
timber falcon
gunk shot is just better
consistency wise?
foggy lodge
Is 60 extra with stab right?
charred saddle
120 --> 180
80 --> 120
timber falcon
i mean poison jab is without risks so i understand why hed go for that
but yeah id still go for gunk shot, damage output it amazing
charred saddle
252+ Atk Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 145-172 (92.3 - 109.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
with said intim u basically ohkoing it
non tera --> neutral
252+ Atk Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 218-258 (116.5 - 137.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
charred saddle
252+ Atk Okidogi Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 146-174 (78 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
too far apart
timber falcon
btw on pikalytics the most used set is just Max Max (hp/atck) @foggy lodge
which makes sense
foggy lodge
No sp def investment?
charred saddle
its like u need 2 turns to kill pon with jab (3-4 if it spams protect)
timber falcon
No sp def investment?
maybe AV is enough? it reaches 159 so idk
foggy lodge
Why does it have 555
No way three of this guys lost with type advantage and better stats against Ogerpon
foggy lodge
maybe AV is enough? it reaches 159 so idk
Yeah makes sense
charred saddle
james baek did 2 teams with similar spread
one with max hp max atk
one is 180hp 188 iirc
rest is put on speed
188+ Atk Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 210-248 (112.2 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
188+ Atk Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 139-165 (88.5 - 105%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
still gets the job done with 188
solid frigate
wait does Foul Play add damage with HH
solid frigate
it does not matter anyway cuz i predicted the Urshifu switch
foggy lodge
This moves stress me so much because when it enters the meta i actually have to worry about attack IVs
solid frigate
thank god i use Special Attackers (4/6 are specials,Ogerpon and Grimmsnarl are not)
foggy lodge
It has the same BP as Moonblast and Moonblast is straight up broken
solid frigate
i am suprised that Kyogre does not Tera to counter my Ogerpon
unless its Tera Water
solid frigate
It has the same BP as Moonblast and Moonblast is straight up broken
Moonblast is just a Nuke Button-
sullen hare
anyone down to battle rn doubles ots bo3?
timber falcon
anyone down to battle rn doubles ots bo3?
i am, if u still wanna
solid frigate
why both of my teams rn are both Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind Team-
solid frigate
cyan smelt
Simply use gravity, no more precipice blades misses
strange fjord
simply don't miss 
cyan smelt
I'd rather not be quad weak to fairy and be a tera hog ty
solid frigate
Simply use gravity, no more precipice blades misses
kinda niche gimmick and i don't want to touch it again
mighty stump
Niche gimmick he says
solid frigate
i just feels i don't see that much
cyan smelt
Just pair Groudon with sandy shocks for fast gravity
solid frigate
Just pair Groudon with sandy shocks for fast gravity
oh yeah i forgot it learns that
bold geode
I think I’d rather have a fighting dragon typing than touch precipice blades
Have you ever clicked Bleakwind?
If you have used Tornadus and used Bleakwind Storm or touched any of the genies and used one of their signature Storm moves, I will argue that the argument is irrelevant
If you can click Bleakwind without rain, you can click Precipice Blades
torn parrot
Have you ever clicked Bleakwind?
i havnt used torn more than twice and both times have been on rain
but either way
it's not my restricted its a tailwind setter
bold geode
Right
But like
The argument of "oh I won't use this because it's signature isn't 100% accurate"
bold geode
Yeah imo that argument is irrelevant
torn parrot
i dont care
bold geode
Like sure use Koraidon
torn parrot
i dont wanna risk the miss
bold geode
Koraidon good
But like
People use Bleakwind, Sandsear, Heat Wave, Rock Slide, Hydro Pump, and other inaccurate moves, but all of a sudden now it's a problem
torn parrot
But like
People use Bleakwind, Sandsear, Heat Wave, Rock Slide, Hydro Pump, and ...
its problem when its my restricted and the team is built around it
so i wont be using it
i dont like innarraute moves
and you cant say my prefrence is irrelevent thats stupid
bold geode
I'm saying the general argument is
It's a fact of risk v reward
torn parrot
i didnt argue anything i litterally said "i would rather"
atomic portal
But like
People use Bleakwind, Sandsear, Heat Wave, Rock Slide, Hydro Pump, and ...
ppl also use water pledge over hydro pump 🙄
bold geode
Eh just my opinion
bold geode
ppl also use water pledge over hydro pump 🙄
Now for that, that actually has some value
Water Pledge doesn't get redirected by Storm Drain
atomic portal
that must be the only reason ppl use it
bold geode
Kinda yeah
mighty stump
It pretty much is
atomic portal
🤔
mighty stump
Water Pledge is just far inferior aside from avoiding Storm Drain
Think about it this way, the BP differences being significant means the chances you wont hit a KO are down to the likelihood of Hydro Pump missing
vs never hitting that KO with Water Pledge despite always hitting
In a consideration of pure turn efficiency/damage per turn
Suddenly 85% chance to KO vs 0% chance to KO is a different consideration
Preference is just a different matter entirely
atomic portal
yeah dude bigger bp kill more - but its the same reason why someone will settle for less with poison jab over gunk shot
mighty stump
And it’s preference; from a per turn matter it’s still more efficient to run the Higher BP moves that’s just been overmemed about missing
Or in general, inaccurate moves due to higher potential of winning
shadow wind
mighty stump
or building a more favourable board state
shadow wind
I think that lower accuracy moves make the game more fun.
mighty stump
Its the same reasoning why people pulled up to a regional with Magma Storm Heatran
Sand Tomb Ting-Lu + Dondozo being a relevant archetype despite the main core of it running inaccurate moves
No one’s running Water Pulse on Kyogre as far as I’m seeing
foggy lodge
Water Pulse or Water Spout?
atomic portal
And it’s preference; from a per turn matter it’s still more efficient to run the...
exactly its preference - if someone didnt wanna run 80 acc or they did - it doesnt matter - ppl been doing that all the time - the whole thing is cyclical where its just overtalked about - using hydro as an example of how ppl will use it is goofy when a lot of mons just dont have another better option
charred saddle
if ur kyogre i think u kinda always want to have spout no?
mighty stump
exactly its preference - if someone didnt wanna run 80 acc or they did - it does...
I’m not trying to push one as being better than the other?
atomic portal
I’m not trying to push one as being better than the other?
didnt say u were - same thing like last time - u just jump in late when the other person p much is
mighty stump
I’m just giving my two cents for consideration as overall
atomic portal
like no disrespect to u
torn parrot
that's just what monkey was arguing for i think
i was talking about my preference
charred saddle
oh tofu talking about sandtomb tinglu, i just saw sandtomb tinglu + yawn dozo is that like common?
mighty stump
Its a team
charred saddle
a first time i saw it, its also Lefties tinglu with protect hmm
sitrus dozo
plays very slow
mighty stump
that's just what monkey was arguing for i think
i was talking about my preferen...
I mean, it’s a public discussion channel overall, I didn’t take it as Monke trying to shove preference rather than to converse about it
mighty stump
a first time i saw it, its also Lefties tinglu with protect hmm
Rocky Helmet Ting-Lu
charred saddle
nah, the team i met was lefties dragon tera
mighty stump
Ok good for you
charred saddle
thought that it was dozo rocky, but then it lives by like 1/4 then sheals with sitrus so i was like, the fuck
cyan smelt
Dozo can solo cosmic power eternatus though so there's that
torn parrot
I mean, it’s a public discussion channel overall, I didn’t take it as Monke tryi...
yeah i just thought it a little rude to start off the discussion saying like "your argument is irrelevent"
when all i said was "i think i would rather do this than this"
solid frigate
Dozo can solo cosmic power eternatus though so there's that
unaware go brrrr
cyan smelt
Unaware + order up
solid frigate
yep
mighty stump
yeah i just thought it a little rude to start off the discussion saying like "yo...
Understandable, Monke is just shit at communicating sometimes but it’s something he’s been working on for a while
torn parrot
Understandable, Monke is just shit at communicating sometimes but it’s something...
i getchu i getchu i'll keep that in mind and be understanding 🙏
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/hi-hi-there-gif-16107842475380108536
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/i-like-turtles-zombie-kid-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-to...
turtle Gang moment
bold geode
I need to play turtle
cyan smelt
Why play turtle when you can play monke
solid frigate
I need to play turtle
Turtle GOATed
solid frigate
Why play turtle when you can play monke
rustic mountain
solid frigate
That every turn after turn 1
OK. Why they bring Greninja and Charizard-
solid frigate
like i was so confused of what the hell is he building,A rain team or a Sun Team?
solid frigate
Turtle AND Monke
Terapagos and Rillaboom:Heh
timber falcon
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2110195673 pffff
Lol what was ur opponents plan? Sweep with no speed control? 
With groudon and charizard no less
cyan smelt
I was expecting the Charizard to use overheat t1
timber falcon
Even heat wave would’ve worked
cyan smelt
Heat wave and p blades
solid frigate
With groudon and charizard no less
at least Zard make sense cuz SWSH vibes,BUT GRENINJA REALLY???
timber falcon
Mhm
cyan smelt
And ludicolo without rain lol
timber falcon
Bold plan lol
solid frigate
And ludicolo without rain lol
Greninja does not deal damage at all in VGC
timber falcon
Fari Bloodmoon feels REALLY strong
Yeah cause it is
molten oasis
Tera normal hyper voice is so good lol
cyan smelt
The only time I've seen greninja is to proc stamina on archaludon or rage fist on annihilape
solid frigate
Fari Dengo just make Sucker Punch Useless lol
timber falcon
Tera normal hyper voice is so good lol
This ur first time using BM urs?
molten oasis
Yuh
timber falcon
Fari making all the priority useless
solid frigate
The only time I've seen greninja is to proc stamina on archaludon or rage fist o...
then again Greninja is only good for using Taunt in VGC,i don't see it being a offensive sweeper
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
cyan smelt
Greninja is crap
molten oasis
Haven’t really played tr stuff
timber falcon
I see
molten oasis
But I’m doing that cuz tofu suggested Fari caly with dengo and wellspring
solid frigate
Greninja is crap
its just not that good in VGC,unless Ash Greninja is Legal,then we can talk
molten oasis
As that’s what I’m enjoying right now, dengo wellspring
timber falcon
But I’m doing that cuz tofu suggested Fari caly with dengo and wellspring
It’s a very solid team I gotta admit
mighty stump
Greninja does not deal damage at all in VGC
Respect the mons not the player
timber falcon
Decorate alcremie got its back
molten oasis
Also foul play Fari 
timber falcon
Caly killer
cyan smelt
Alcremie with sweet veil?
molten oasis
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
Caly killer
252+ Atk Grimmsnarl Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 152-180 (73.4 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
molten oasis
Tbf some of my opponents are idiots lol
timber falcon
252+ Atk Grimmsnarl Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 152-180 (73.4 - 86...
Doesn’t foul play use the other mons one lol
molten oasis
Watched a guy throw a game with gambit fire and he didn’t double the Fari which was half hp
In fact
solid frigate
Doesn’t foul play use the other mons one lol
yeah
solid frigate
Watched a guy throw a game with gambit fire and he didn’t double the Fari which ...
wait,Tera Fire Gambit?
molten oasis
Gouging fire
solid frigate
Gouging fire
oh.
timber falcon
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2110207548-mylqngxlvp6wgn9wri...
Lol wtf are those 1st 2 turns
solid frigate
Lol wtf are those 1st 2 turns
imagine that Zard OHKO's Ogerpon,which could work.
timber falcon
Nothing would’ve changed except farig taking more damage
I don’t think groudon killed with 1 heat crash
solid frigate
252+ Atk Black Glasses Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 220 HP / 220 Def Farigiraf: 200-236 (89.6 - 105.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Ok damn-
timber falcon
Is that dragos giraff?
solid frigate
Is that dragos giraff?
i made that Giraff.
timber falcon
I think it’s missing physical bulk 
solid frigate
252+ Atk Black Glasses Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 220 HP / 220 Def Farigiraf through Reflect: 100-118 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO
timber falcon
Ok that’s really bulky
solid frigate
I think it’s missing physical bulk <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
then again,i have Grimmsnarl so naturally it would work
molten oasis
I lost mine so i needed to use someone’s lol
solid frigate
lol
mighty stump
Farigiraf @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Helping Hand
- Trick Room
- Hyper Voice
0 problems with it.
foggy lodge
ok the regulation is already dead but what do you guys think about this?
foggy lodge
But it's fine?
molten oasis
Yuh
rustic mountain
<:worryBeethoven:782461614884126750>
rustic mountain
ok the regulation is already dead but what do you guys think about this?
not for every1 
some circuits have reg f for nationals
molten oasis
Yep
sullen hare
anyone down to battle doubles open team sheets best of 3?
molten oasis
Fuck
forest arrow
Yeah but you would have to reset your game no?
forest arrow
Oh yeah tru
next stump
do you need switch online on the alt to do that?
rustic mountain
nah
i have in the past as recently as w/ ogerpon to do that
just have switch online on my main
next stump
so what’s the process? create a new switch profile, replay the game, put the pokemon in HOME from the alt profile, then what?
rustic mountain
wen ur in home, u can change between profiles
timber falcon
Wait what?
rustic mountain
so once u transfer the mon from ur alt profile to ur home box, u just save, switch to ur main profile and grab it from that
timber falcon
You can swap mons to a different account via home?
next stump
that’s awesome thank you
rustic mountain
np
rustic mountain
You can swap mons to a different account via home?
yes
mighty stump
So say im in SC
timber falcon
Oh that’s great
mighty stump
SV
rustic mountain
itll have ur different profiles u can switch between
rustic mountain
like multiple profiles of sv? yea
timber falcon
Ima try it rn
rustic mountain
wen ur in the home menu and click boxes itll have the option to change it where the names at
timber falcon
Btw say I lost raging bolt and gouging fire, is it worth replaying everything to get em back?
mighty stump
You what
rustic mountain
its a lot i think to get em no? u can def survive without them
cuz they are locked behind perrin story
timber falcon
rustic mountain
howd u lose em?
rustic mountain
i didnt but ok
timber falcon
Tofu does at least, anyway
rustic mountain
so u traded for one
rustic mountain
damn
timber falcon
ALSO IT WORKS
rustic mountain
i know
timber falcon
YOOOOOO
rustic mountain
chrome knot
I traded both in matching apriballs for a shiny latios
literally why
timber falcon
mighty stump
lmaoo
timber falcon
literally why
It looked really cool at the time 
chrome knot
lmao
rustic mountain
its a cool shiny
timber falcon
Then I traded it for latias shiny
rustic mountain
bruh
timber falcon
Then torn shiny
chrome knot
what
timber falcon
And lost the torn somehow
chrome knot
lmao
rustic mountain
timber falcon
I don’t even know where it went
rustic mountain
i just hunt it myself but yea rng manip is great
timber falcon
What’s that
rustic mountain
cant really go in depth on it here but basically just finding the seed of the shiny and getting it frame perfect to get said seed
timber falcon
rustic mountain
theres different methodology depending on the game too but generally its going for/doing the same thing
timber falcon
OH I FOUND THE TORN
Was just sitting in home
chrome knot
also I don’t understand this seed thing
no mind it
timber falcon
Okidoki
rustic mountain
cant really say much more tbh, if u want to u can look it up theres plenty of resources out there for it
timber falcon
I think if I was gonna hunt a shiny leg I’d try do it the long way
For the experience
chrome knot
if i wanted one for reg g im manipping for it i cant be bothered
rustic mountain
calyrex and the horses not being shiny 
1 shotting kyogre feels illegal
(w/ a neutral hit)
next stump
I think if I was gonna hunt a shiny leg I’d try do it the long way
it’s about 20-30 hours to hit the shiny rate through dynamax adventures in SWSH depending on if you have a path that you can reset and finish every time
so it’s not that bad, it is also a very AFK grind that you can do on the side
bold geode
but im also not set on caly ice yet
I'll help if you need
Tbh I could probably use it myself once you done with NAIC if you go Caly I route
rustic mountain
das arent too bad. its mostly just getting a lot of ore and a path u can consistently win on
timber falcon
so it’s not *that* bad, it is also a very AFK grind that you can do on the side
Ok nice to know, I’ll try for lunala this weekend I guess
rustic mountain
lunala isnt too bad
timber falcon
Will NAIC be Reg G btw?
timber falcon
lunala isnt too bad
It’s great
timber falcon
yea naic is gna b reg g
Ok nice to know (not that I’m going)
rustic mountain
i mean like da difficulty, its a good mon tho i think its not great in single restricted
rustic mountain
im sure someone will do well w/ it but i think itll thrive more in double restricted. feels it needs to do too much and isnt as instant offense coded as a lot of other restricteds that to me outclass it
mighty stump
A lot of mons feel better with double restricted i think
rustic mountain
yea
timber falcon
You think Groudon + Koraidon pairs will be a thing?
rustic mountain
maybe, seems a bit overkill but possible
timber falcon
I guess, but it’s nice sun setters have diverse typings
rustic mountain
i think ppl will try it out
timber falcon
Btw, is lunala like a tr mon
rustic mountain
generally yea
cyan smelt
It gets both tr and tailwind so it can be either I guess
molten oasis
I'll help if you need
Tbh I could probably use it myself once you done with NAI...
mhmm
rustic mountain
resetting for 0iv speed isnt too bad, i just mballed it and kept checking till i got it. luckily didnt take too long for me
getting to that point, a bit more tedious lol
bold geode
lunala isnt too bad
Don't bring up that name here lol
timber falcon
bold geode
I fucking hate Lunala
Like my MUs into it are always abysmal
mighty stump
walled by normal-type beat
timber falcon
Beat?
bold geode
walled by normal-type beat
If only
rustic mountain
Don't bring up that name here lol
bold geode
Tofu I'm in a call with someone who used Caly I with max speed Jolly cuz in TW it outspeeds Caly S and Adamant Scarf Shifu
Like we really doing this LMFAO
rustic mountain
one team in swsh did that
pastel blade
mighty stump
Got the indo exclusive pikachu
strange fjord
yooo nice
knotty mirage
Damn batik pikachu exist
charred saddle
Got the indo exclusive pikachu
mighty stump
<a:gib:1189555759177027684>
beli sendiri
thin fjord
Landorus btw. Is this a pretty rare IV set for a legit Legendary. Prob be pretty good for trick room teams. But, I think I am going to use caps on it. For VGC.
mighty stump
Lando isn’t a TR Pokemon
Sorry to break the news buddy
No Good Atk is optimal though
Only if its Lando-I
thin fjord
Yeah I'm gonna bottle cap it's speed
charred saddle
Landorus btw. Is this a pretty rare IV set for a legit Legendary. Prob be pretty...
uhhhh, where did u get this?
thats kinda sus since no good or 0 IV is counted as functional IVs for VGC and can be hypertrained, making it a functional 6 IVs
charred saddle
beli sendiri
brpaan?
charred saddle
i mean if its self caught good then 
thin fjord
Sure is
charred saddle
kontol mahal
bitter heart
Lando isn’t a TR Pokemon
How about this one 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947950608252543006/1220508639010226346/IMG_5568.jpg
patent marsh
regieleki is like the fastest pokemon possible in the format rn no?
0 speed on it seems more like a loss than a benefit
cyan smelt
Iron ball Regieleki 
pearl wind
the gen8 box sprites look so good
bitter heart
I’ve been using iron ball chi-yu on a jank trick room team on showdown
patent marsh
they’ll never expect trick room regieleki <:BusinessSpheal:824618105090211851>
it dun learn trick room
bitter heart
the gen8 box sprites look so good
Only the ones that got a high resolution update. Vast majority are still using the ugly outdated compressed DS box sprites
I still prefer the HD sprites from SV thouh
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/20052f9b91cef084 Will be back in a bit, any opinions on this?
polar canyon
What if chesnaught
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
polar canyon
Stab idbp wide guard
Discount zamazenta
With a worse typing
With coaching for support
Could that work?
solid frigate
I'm just messing with Wolfey's Eternatus Team in SWSH with some minor adjustments and i actually beat a Calyrex Team,and its quite comfortable using it
willow vault
Ooh, eternatus very nice
solid frigate
Ooh, eternatus very nice
probably would not be in top 3 most used Restricted,but i could use it in showdown
willow vault
Fair enough, I’ve been drawing to help with my mental, cause this reg is tough (for me)
autumn vault
Ooh, eternatus very nice
I wont use etern but it does seem very interesting
So far i only see stall etern
willow vault
Neither
autumn vault
Oh wait i didn't realize it is you Crephace
willow vault
Hi
solid frigate
i just use Wolfey's Life Orb Eternatus team
autumn vault
i just use Wolfey's Life Orb Eternatus team
Wait he made a reg G team?
Didn't know he played unnoficial metas
Like reg G (for now)
willow vault
As you can probably guess I’ve been trying Lunala, it’s really good, I’m just struggling with power levels this reg, no matter what restricted I use
solid frigate
Wait he made a reg G team?
He made it in SWSH
solid frigate
As you can probably guess I’ve been trying Lunala, it’s really good, I’m just st...
Terapagos,Lunala and Origin Dialga
for me at least
autumn vault
He made it in SWSH
Oh right, i did watch that video, it is what inspired me to try SpA Landorus-Therian
next stump
wolfey won the largest Reg G tournament so far
solid frigate
yeah with Caly S
autumn vault
yeah with Caly S
With boring
molten oasis
unfortunately its good for a reason
willow vault
I’ve tried, Lunala, kyogre, Groudon, rayquaza, Zacian, zamazenta, koraidon and palkia. So far I’ve been enjoying Lunala the most
autumn vault
As you can probably guess I’ve been trying Lunala, it’s really good, I’m just st...
I use Zekrom, Koraidon and Kyogre, all of them do really good
willow vault
Oh and kyruem-white
autumn vault
Ngl i want to try Kyogre but i have to build my Zekrom team in game and get a shiny one
willow vault
Fair enough, presuming your gonna hunt on swsh for that
autumn vault
Yes, i will do it on shield
willow vault
Good
autumn vault
LMAO
solid frigate
next stump
you have scarf with protect right now
autumn vault
solid frigate
you have scarf with protect right now
wait it should be U-Turn.
autumn vault
Is it weird i want to use special landorus-therian?
I have my kyogre team and i lack intimidate, i might need it and special attacking = Not giving a shit about intimidate
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/d7454e425aabff76
Also Suicune is kind of mid rn
willow vault
I have my kyogre team and i lack intimidate, i might need it and special attacki...
Slightly but it’s special attack stat is good, don’t know about its special attacking move pool
autumn vault
Slightly but it’s special attack stat is good, don’t know about its special atta...
Same as incarnate's
willow vault
Oh
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/b7bd44a1c46a3934 Team i am using
willow vault
Then sure, it lacks the pure damage output from a lack of sheer force + life orb but other than that it seems ok in theory
autumn vault
I can always slap specs or L-Orb onto Landorus
willow vault
Yeah I guess, do what you got to I guess
autumn vault
I will test it, seems too tempting to not try
willow vault
I will test it, seems too tempting to not try
Have fun
solid frigate
Also Suicune is kind of mid rn
i was like,hey you know whats super funny,
Gives Suicune even more speed control
autumn vault
Double speed control in one pokemon is, interesting
solid frigate
i can bring urshifu but i lost my only tailwind mon
solid frigate
Double speed control in one pokemon is, interesting
Tornadus:
autumn vault
Tornadus:
Tornadus has prankster so it is more valid for that
You know who i really want to try?
solid frigate
?
autumn vault
solid frigate
ah yes Godzilla
autumn vault
Counters both calyrex's, removes Grudon and Kyogree's weather, synergizes well with zacian
solid frigate
make sense
willow vault
Counters both calyrex's, removes Grudon and Kyogree's weather, synergizes well w...
Probably a dumb question but into Calyrex-ice what do you click with t-tar? Knock off?
raw thistle
Bro the bikes aren't serious
autumn vault
Probably a dumb question but into Calyrex-ice what do you click with t-tar? Knoc...
yes
raw thistle
We have a mon that does 65% to invested eternamax on average
autumn vault
And for calyrex ice i can click rock slide too
raw thistle
How is this real
willow vault
And for calyrex ice i can click rock slide too
Nice
willow vault
We have a mon that does 65% to invested eternamax on average
Ok
autumn vault
Ngl i expected Drago to ping me to tell me i should use landorus-incarnate for special attacking, i prefer being pinged for something more serious than some silly thing
willow vault
Ngl i expected Drago to ping me to tell me i should use landorus-incarnate for s...
I did say it was a dumb question
autumn vault
It is still more serious than that
willow vault
Alright
autumn vault
Back to Fire Emblem
brazen bough
I think im locked in with zacian right now
elder python
is meowscarada good for vgc?
solid frigate
is meowscarada good for vgc?
used to
willow vault
is meowscarada good for vgc?
Not anymore
solid frigate
i missed those days of me using Meowscarada
elder python
is it good for singles
willow vault
i missed those days of me using Meowscarada
They were fun
elder python
is cinderace good for vgc
willow vault
is it good for singles
Not sure
solid frigate
is it good for singles
singles idk i haven't touched it a long time
willow vault
is cinderace good for vgc
No
elder python
okay thanks
willow vault
No problem
solid frigate
They were fun
why didn't it Get Triple Axel like eariler,I want to use it to kill Roaring Moon ;-;
willow vault
why didn't it Get Triple Axel like eariler,I want to use it to kill Roaring Moon...
I still wouldn’t have used cause of accuracy
elder python
talon flame or cinderace?
willow vault
Talonflame is better rn, but there are better alternatives then both
solid frigate
I still wouldn’t have used cause of accuracy
i used Flower Trick,Sucker Punch,Brick Break and Triple Axel with Choice Band Tera Ice for fun,but i changed back to Grass
elder python
Talonflame is better rn, but there are better alternatives then both
like who
solid frigate
Fire wise, Incineroar, Heatran, gouging fire, chi-yu, hisuian-arcanine
Ogerpon as well
but that counts as Fire,Water,Grass types
willow vault
True forgot about that
solid frigate
rock ogerpon is debatable but idk
elder python
thank you
willow vault
No problem
solid frigate
Me when i give Suicune even more speed Control
willow vault
Your using Suicune? Ok
solid frigate
Your using Suicune? Ok
i slightly Modify Wolfey's Eternatus Team's Suicune and Replace Snarl with Icy Wind Cuz Entei has it
willow vault
Oh
solid frigate
Me:You want more Speed Control? Here have some!
Proceeds to give a bag of Dog Food to Suicune
wait is suicune a dog-
willow vault
wait is suicune a dog-
It’s a Pokémon
solid frigate
It’s a Pokémon
but like is it look like a dog
willow vault
I think it’s often considered a hound
autumn vault
is it good for singles
yes
solid frigate
I think it’s often considered a hound
ok so its more like a Dog Breed,cuz Houndoom is consider a dog breed that looks like a wolf
autumn vault
Suicune is a beast
Not sure what Suicune is based off of but i think it is a dog/cat mix
solid frigate
Not sure what Suicune is based off of but i think it is a dog/cat mix
ok at least giving some speed control dog food is ok ig
autumn vault
True
solid frigate
and i might give it too much lol
autumn vault
and i might give it too much lol
Btw how is the restricted notes going? I am currently making calyrex-ice's notes
solid frigate
Btw how is the restricted notes going? I am currently making calyrex-ice's notes
I might make Miraidon and Lunala next
autumn vault
Ah ok
molten oasis
Man I tell my managers I have finals this/next week and then I’m asked to come in to work more hours
Like cmon use your fucking brain
solid frigate
F
autumn vault
F
willow vault
F
autumn vault
Like cmon use your fucking brain
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-was-not-braining-braining-faruk-azam-faruk-si...
Me when i use Terapagos casually:
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-was-not-braining-braining-faruk-azam-faruk-si...
Zekrom when it needs to land a bolt strike to win:
stray badger
Enemy RNG is 50/50, your RNG is 1/4096
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2110620066-67qwn10qdhxztn64rm4zz0tny8mn132pw im ngl idk if i should have won that
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2110620066-67qwn10qdhxztn64rm...
Surprised you haven't FO'd the calyrex at turn 1
autumn vault
true
molten oasis
I knew bolt was snarl spamming since it was on lead
molten oasis
Wouldn’t it be a problem if it went for high horse power
I eat 1 and I had wellspring in the back
Wellspring+dengo typically handles caly ice
Wellspring checks it’s Tera’s and redirects high horse from dengo so it can set up/attack
timber falcon
Which mon does Kyogre never wanna see
molten oasis
Ik I eat 1 as I’ve watched my dengo eat 1
autumn vault
Which mon does Kyogre never wanna see
Wellspring bolt koraidon miraidon bundle
timber falcon
Ik I eat 1 as I’ve watched my dengo eat 1
What about calcs?
molten oasis
Which mon does Kyogre never wanna see
Raging bolt wellspring miraidon
autumn vault
Terapagos Gastrodon Groudon
molten oasis
Rillaboom
timber falcon
Since it’s a sun team, I reckon I go bolt then
But that makes a quad fairy weakness and a fairy weakness
molten oasis
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider High Horsepower vs. 204 HP / 60 Def Gholdengo: 138-164 (73.4 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
autumn vault
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider High Horsepower vs. 204 HP / 60 Def Gholdengo: 138-16...
It tanks that like nothing
molten oasis
Unless I’m fighting banded I always eat 1
autumn vault
Who tf uses banded calyrex-ice
molten oasis
I saw a banded Tera ground caly ice today
timber falcon
It tanks that like nothing
2HKO isn’t “like nothing” is it?
autumn vault
1200 elo is crazy
molten oasis
That was fucking weird, I won cuz he was Tera ground
autumn vault
2HKO isn’t “like nothing” is it?
Still tanks that very well
timber falcon
Yeah I agree with that
timber falcon
Unless I’m fighting banded I always eat 1
What about the fairly common coaching/HH
molten oasis
On caly
molten oasis
What about the fairly common coaching/HH
That’s common?
timber falcon
I mean is it not?
molten oasis
I don’t see it ever
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/ef1a758b69e15006 What should be in the 6th slot?
timber falcon
I always see either HH or coaching
molten oasis
Also again, into something like that I go wellspring dengo on lead
timber falcon
This is the tr one right?
molten oasis
I also like dengo wellspring into Lunala
timber falcon
Oh?
molten oasis
It is what buttons to click I need to figure out but if I’m not facing a chi yu lunala cough follow me/nasty plot is relatively save and you wide guarding means free shadow balls/more set up
Still figuring that my up tbh
But into Lunala without chi yu I just go dengo and do dengo things
I am dead set on taking dengo to NAIC
timber falcon
What’s ur chi-yu MU
molten oasis
What’s ur chi-yu MU
Bonk with wellspring
molten oasis
Flutter
autumn vault
Also calyrex does not like facing amoonguss btw
timber falcon
Why is lando-T there.
autumn vault
Amoonguss with 27 speed ivs underspeeds calyrex which outspeeds it in tr
molten oasis
You go incarnate on that team always
autumn vault
Why is lando-T there.
Because i like intimidate which synergizes well with the Ogre
autumn vault
And ogerpon too
timber falcon
As long as it works I guess
timber falcon
But the damage output is gonna be lower, and why ground tera
molten oasis
Incin generally doesn’t care as much
autumn vault
But the damage output is gonna be lower, and why ground tera
That is unintentionall
It is supposed to be flying
autumn vault
Electric tera?
timber falcon
Wouldn’t taunt be ideal for torn btw
autumn vault
I was looking for a 6th member, not judgement yet
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-real-incineroar-gif-23132346
This?
molten oasis
Yes
He’s already real
Also don’t go too deep into incin being anti synergy with rain
timber falcon
Incin + lando-I would be ideal
molten oasis
Harc sure but incin has high enough utility it just doesn’t care
Also lando i is just way better in that spot
Archa wants fairy Tera for single strike/cc/Draco meteors
You still get chunked by it, not die to it but chunked by it
Electric isn’t worthwhile imo
molten oasis
How do you deal with the caly-s
Poky or me?
timber falcon
Poky
timber falcon
Most have tw torn too
molten oasis
You origin pulse not spout
timber falcon
Incin simply is a great choice into this team
molten oasis
If tw is up
autumn vault
tailwind water spout and pray they dont have mienshao
molten oasis
On both sides
timber falcon
Water spout it
They my will most likely also have tw so u go origin
autumn vault
They my will most likely also have tw so u go origin
Kyogre tanks it very well
molten oasis
Kyogre is specially very fat
autumn vault
If you can hit bolt strikes you can hit hydro pump
Not quite the same, bolt strike has 85% accuracy, Hydro Pump has 80% accuracy (iirc)
timber falcon
Even so, spout will be mitigated
molten oasis
Not quite the same, bolt strike has 85% accuracy, Hydro Pump has 80% accuracy (i...
Ok
solid frigate
Kyogre is specially very fat
unless Its against Bolt,Ogerpon,Rilla
molten oasis
Still applies
autumn vault
True, it is only a 5% diff
molten oasis
Kyogre can eat a hit from bolt
It can eat horn leech from ogerpon
It can’t eat wood hammers lol
autumn vault
If stone edge never lands, neither does pump (a joke)
solid frigate
It can eat horn leech from ogerpon
180+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyogre: 164-194 (93.7 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
76 Atk Wellspring Mask Ogerpon-Wellspring Horn Leech vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyogre: 140-168 (80 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Idk how last time i OHKO Kyogre with Ogerpon but eh
timber falcon
Crit?
autumn vault
180+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyogre: 164-194...
Why would the Ogre be in sun?
autumn vault
Not T-Clap
timber falcon
its not even a crit
So then how
solid frigate
molten oasis
180+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyogre: 164-194...
Why is it proto boosted
autumn vault
I just had an idea: Tera Ghost scarf calyrex shadow
solid frigate
Why is it proto boosted
just a though
autumn vault
Shit? Probably
timber falcon
Tf?
molten oasis
autumn vault
What is Adragon20 doing there?
autumn vault
I was joking with Therian, i thought "What if i use it, and then kyogre wont die immediately to Wood Hammer"
timber falcon
Why random Evs on lando hp
autumn vault
Why random Evs on lando hp
Tanks Astral Barrage
Also i forgot to switch tera on Arch
timber falcon
Oh that’s neat
autumn vault
Fixed tera
timber falcon
Tanks Astral Barrage
Non boosted right?
autumn vault
Non boosted right?
Yes
solid frigate
Fixed tera
archaludon the goat
autumn vault
252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 36 HP / 4 SpD Landorus: 142-168 (84 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
solid frigate
252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 36 HP / 4 SpD Landorus:...
damn-
timber falcon
autumn vault
<:mochige:1196954088462631082>
I. L. O. V. E. T. R. O. L. L. I. N. G.
mighty stump
Fixed tera
yikes
autumn vault
I discovered that Arch has really good synergy with flying at the cost of being weak to calyrex-ice and miraidon
Which are big prices to pay
molten oasis
Fixed tera
Bruh
mighty stump
Whats ur logic behind Flying here
solid frigate
I. L. O. V. E. T. R. O. L. L. I. N. G.
molten oasis
Did you not see what I said about fsiry Tera
autumn vault
Immunity to Ground, resists Fighting, steel beats ice and rock
Dragon not contributing to types offensively as usual
molten oasis
Flash cannon doesn’t Ohko any caly i’s as far as I’m aware
mighty stump
Arguably at the moment Dragon STAB almost more important Steel STAB kek
molten oasis
Lol
autumn vault
Flash cannon doesn’t Ohko any caly i’s as far as I’m aware
True, but after an Electro Shot i think it can probably OHKO
molten oasis
Let’s see
autumn vault
And it will use it a lot in rain which torn and Kyogre have
mighty stump
Idk idt youre KOing any Caly-Is after you Tera into its weakness
molten oasis
+1 164+ SpA Archaludon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 164-194 (79.2 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
mighty stump
Flying is such an inferior Tera for Archaludon
solid frigate
+1 164+ SpA Archaludon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 164-19...
i might used the more bulkier archaludon set cuz my SpA EVs are not that high but eh
molten oasis
Fsiry literally just always better
You don’t like single strike since it ignores your boosts
Also not getting nuked by Draco
autumn vault
I will test and the results will speak after testing
molten oasis
solid frigate
Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 220 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Electro Shot
- Dragon Pulse
- Body Press
- Flash Cannon
I just use this Archaludon
autumn vault
Why when someone here mentions calyrex-ice i get it in a match
molten oasis
Kek
autumn vault
Well atleast an opportunity to practice against it
solid frigate
Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Typ...
wait is my Archaludon alright for usage?
molten oasis
Hmm, so like, kyogre wellspring dengo torn sounds decent
solid frigate
Hmm, so like, kyogre wellspring dengo torn sounds decent
i used one with Archaludon so I think Dengo is better cuz offensive measure
molten oasis
Yea I mean
solid frigate
What are the calcs for?
i just yoinked the Portland 15th's Archaludon-
molten oasis
I’m just looking at the restricted options to use dengo
Someone said any are fine but mostly kyogre kyurem or tofu said caly (which I like)
solid frigate
I’m just looking at the restricted options to use dengo
i tried with Terapagos
molten oasis
Tofu brought this up
The issue with doing terapagos and dengo is the fact they overlap in role so much you’re really picking one or the other
And you’re normally gonna pick the turtle
solid frigate
welp time to replace dengo with someone
molten oasis
So dengo kinda feels like a dead slot
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/9926b89355396f3e
If we remove Dengo then maybe Urshifu?
molten oasis
hmm, @mighty stump do you think kyogre wellspring Fari dengo is a decent core to try out?
mighty stump
for Kyogre?
mighty stump
imo Urshi/Lando almost a must
solid frigate
wait should i replace dengo for Rillaboom
molten oasis
so, kyogre shifu lando dengo wellspring Fari?
autumn vault
wait should i replace dengo for Rillaboom
Yes
molten oasis
Idk just looking at things to use with dengo wellspring
As it’s less work to not go hunting for 0 speed mons
Cuz that shit sucks
autumn vault
Hey Donkey Kong Konkey Dong
solid frigate
Ogerpon is literally Kyogre/Groudon remover so it needs to be in my team,Grimmsnarl is for the screens,Fari and Torn or Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind team Speed Control....
molten oasis
hmm
solid frigate
hmm
willow vault
hmm
autumn vault
hmm
molten oasis
Don’t really wanna try Lunala or the dogs as they overlap a lot with dengo
willow vault
Don’t really wanna try Lunala or the dogs as they overlap a lot with dengo
Palkia, doesn’t overlap
molten oasis
Ok but is Palkia worth bringing to NAIC?
solid frigate
Don’t really wanna try Lunala or the dogs as they overlap a lot with dengo
this team i made would be fine if i can Replace Dengo with Lunala-
willow vault
Ok but is Palkia worth bringing to NAIC?
Oh it’s for a tourney, definitely not
autumn vault
Did you not see what I said about fsiry Tera
I did, i just wanted to try flying
molten oasis
It’s not
solid frigate
if its 2 restricted i can use Lunala over Dengo-
willow vault
Definitely not
autumn vault
Maybe it is
willow vault
But they won’t expect it
autumn vault
I never faced a Palkia myself
molten oasis
I was thinking about snow but idt it’s the right material rn
willow vault
I never faced a Palkia myself
I ran into a mirror matchup with palkia
autumn vault
I was thinking about snow but idt it’s the right material rn
I mean Kyurem-White spamming blizzard in snow seems pretty good
molten oasis
Yea you’d be surprised how little I got to do that with kyurem
solid frigate
i would bring Archaludon but that means i need to use Tailwind option cuz Tornadus has rain dance
autumn vault
Calyrex ice + snow + Aurora veil + trick room = How the fuck am i supposed to kill it
solid frigate
i would bring Archaludon but that means i need to use Tailwind option cuz Tornad...
so not really
molten oasis
I don’t feel like I can pilot that either
willow vault
Calyrex ice + snow + Aurora veil + trick room = How the fuck am i supposed to ki...
Fissure
molten oasis
A9 with tr seems clunky
craggy dagger
Who will run fissure outside of maybe Ting
torkoal gets it iirc
willow vault
Fissure ting lu, you auto win some games
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
A9 with tr seems clunky
yeah its pretty fast
molten oasis
torkoal gets it iirc
autumn vault
You can always pivot
molten oasis
I don’t see you too often
craggy dagger
oh hey drago
molten oasis
You can always pivot
A9 has a pivot move? Huh?
willow vault
You could run, miraidon, bundle and a9
autumn vault
A9 has a pivot move? Huh?
Pivot out with a switch
craggy dagger
did you settle on a dengo restricted?
mighty stump
I fear for my life
molten oasis
Aw hell nah wtf
willow vault
I fear for my life
Oh that looks awful
autumn vault
I fear for my life
What on fucking earth am i seeing
molten oasis
You should send us the match link
Cuz I wanna watch that gonna be terrible match lol
autumn vault
You should send us the match link
We all know how it ends
molten oasis
Prankster yawn kek
molten oasis
aw hell nah
mighty stump
no its fine
craggy dagger
Getting closer tho
narrowed down the suspects?
who're you thinking
willow vault
Oh, that’s foul
autumn vault
Cuz I wanna watch that gonna be terrible match lol
Tofu would 4 0 that
molten oasis
narrowed down the suspects?
who're you thinking
Kyogre kyurem snow or caly ice atm
craggy dagger
so....
the ones you were avoiding-
solid frigate
I fear for my life
wait what-
molten oasis
Shadow rider is stupid
craggy dagger
yeah
molten oasis
People I talked to were saying it kinda works with anything but idt it really does
craggy dagger
though i havent seen much shadowdee
willow vault
Kyogre feels odd, since then your likely choosing dengo over Archaludon
autumn vault
People I talked to were saying it kinda works with anything but idt it really do...
They clearly never heard of tr
molten oasis
Generally I want something to handle dengo’s weaknesses
willow vault
Makes sense
solid frigate
i am still thinking which Pokemon should i replace Dengo
craggy dagger
rain + dengo is good in general
molten oasis
Caly and kyogre currently fit the bill
Yes but idk how to get a team going with dengo as rn rain just seems faster paced than dengo runs
mighty stump
run Specs
molten oasis
Caly tr has been fine but it feels off
willow vault
I know it’s not a restricted but Primarina, covers all of dengo’s weaknesses
craggy dagger
ig so...
molten oasis
Not bad necessary just off
mighty stump
run Specs
autumn vault
I mean specs make it rain never dissapoints
molten oasis
…why
molten oasis
defeats the point of doing wellspring dengo but ok
autumn vault
In terms of comparing it to nasty plot i think it is worse
craggy dagger
defeats the point of doing wellspring dengo but ok
^^^
solid frigate
should i replace Dengo With Bolt?
torn parrot
defeats the point of doing wellspring dengo but ok
Ohhhhhh it’s you drago
molten oasis
Than dengo does
mighty stump
Then don't do Wellspring Dengo, you're saying it gets outpaced. Otherwise you run Amoonguss + Incineroar for FO/Rage Powder cycle
craggy dagger
I don’t see you too often
im trying to not be on discord as much-
autumn vault
Ohhhhhh it’s you drago
He had that PFP for quite some time even before changing his username
torn parrot
He had that PFP for quite some time even before changing his username
Yesterday it was a dog I just noticed today
autumn vault
Yesterday it was a dog I just noticed today
It was Zacian, it is not an ordinary dog
plain drum
torn parrot
No zacian is just an ordinary puppy
craggy dagger
i just figure that a teal pokemon pfp is drago-
though drago usually makes his pfp what hes working on so its easier to tell like that too
molten oasis
It is not the way I generally play but whatever if that’s how it needs to be played then that’s how it needs to be played
craggy dagger
<a:doggorun:1063544280184008834>
hello Eni!
molten oasis
That or I drop dengo and go play Zac again in hopes something works
autumn vault
<a:doggorun:1063544280184008834>
Hey Eni, i dont see you here that often
craggy dagger
i feel like zac is too niche now-
plain drum
Hello, yeah I don’t have anything to contribute usually
autumn vault
Intimidate is just really bad for Zac
molten oasis
I haven’t really clicked with any of the top guys yet, except caly ice ig
mighty stump
do Pelipper Zacian
craggy dagger
Hello, yeah I don’t have anything to contribute usually
mighty stump
Its pretty well positioned rn
molten oasis
I saw that, got second yesterday
craggy dagger
peli zac :0
molten oasis
In Tommy Tuesdays
craggy dagger
ohhhh
molten oasis
mm, man idk
craggy dagger
I use Zacian with this cute but fierce godzilla
im not liking the ground weakness there-
molten oasis
I think dengo wellspring is generally pretty good I am not having any luck finding a restricted that feels good, besides caly I just want to see options that don’t require a lot of grinding
That or I just can’t pilot shit
autumn vault
im not liking the ground weakness there-
It is only 3 with 2 ways to beat it and an immunity
Tyranitar also has ice punch on that team
craggy dagger
sandstorm boosts Special defense iirc right-
cause if so then nvm