competitive_discussion

[vapid grotto]

and he is pink when shiny

[willow vault]

I don’t know why either

[solid frigate]

i guess i confirm my Dialga Set so i'll make it later

and Also Terapagos

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump unfortunately theres like 3 reg f locals left and i care 0 for reg f what funny teams should i use

[mighty stump]

https://pokebin.com/a5f551d574dfaa97

[chrome knot]

viable please not

[mighty stump]

wdym this is viable

[chrome knot]

[mighty stump]

its from NPAA

[chrome knot]

STOP

who did this

[mighty stump]

BattleRoom did a video on it was 80% GXE on Bo3 Ladder

[chrome knot]

pfft

what is the point of ic @ gravity

[mighty stump]

Either Hypnosis, Focus Blast or hit those EQs that will never miss on Flying-types

[autumn vault]

Hear me out: Banded urshifu rapid strike

[mighty stump]

Was a thing

Nothing wrong with it

[chrome knot]

ok team that can be made with sv+swsh bc i cant be bothered gett my hands on crown for a joke team

[mighty stump]

Lol

[autumn vault]

It is a thing for single strike, but not for rapid strike

252 Atk Choice Band Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zacian-Crowned on a critical hit: 180-216 (107.1 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO it can secure nasty damage

[mighty stump]

I do have this funny team I ran for GC its pretty fuin

[chrome knot]

share with the class :3

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/0a98bfd5d91678bc

You can run DDance over DClaw

[chrome knot]

son of a bitch

[mighty stump]

And run Walkign Wake over one of the setters

[chrome knot]

thats just a version of what i playyyy

[mighty stump]

Tera Blast Fire RM is pretty nice in Sun

[chrome knot]

im gonna play ryan almeidas team

[mighty stump]

Who

[chrome knot]

arezu in prog server

[mighty stump]

ohh

[chrome knot]

11th @ Orlando

[mighty stump]

I mean theres anti-balance 2-2-2

but neeeds crown lmaoo

https://pokepast.es/336b32cbfc150a82

https://pokepast.es/166f44b0f29f2f2d or ArchaComfey

[chrome knot]

crown is so stinky!!!

[mighty stump]

lmao

[chrome knot]

and im on scarlet !

[mighty stump]

ngl didnt know arezu had the same name as me

[chrome knot]

ryan?

[mighty stump]

Yep

[chrome knot]

WHAAAT

YOURE A RYAN !?

[mighty stump]

Surprise

[chrome knot]

woooooooaaaahhhh

[mighty stump]

I'm also chinese-indonesian and that is my legal name

A lot tend to ask me if I have alternate names so yea

[bold geode]

Excuse me, the fuck is this

[mighty stump]

What do you think it is

[upbeat quail]

I need a good venusaur team for Reg G. I’m trying to decide if Groudon or Koraidon is the better sun setter

And who else to pair it with. I’m getting fucked up by trick room teams

[bold geode]

The reason I go blind

[mighty stump]

Then consider them down to their typings/coverage/matchup potentials/stats

and if you're getting screwed by TR teams, sounds like you have other things to consider; maybe even Torkoal

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ursaluna-dance-ursaluna-gif-24758216

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2108380454

The name-

[chrome knot]

realized I could get iron crown in like 15 minutes

BUT I made ryans wake team already so no mind

[mighty stump]

lol

[chrome knot]

if I wanna spend $50 on scarlet dlc I can be wheelin & dealin legit bolts/gouging fires in requested balls like mad

[mighty stump]

win ur next PC/MSS and get reward

[chrome knot]

TRUE

[mighty stump]

Im upset TFT is being weird and the connection is down and so I decided to play one game of bo3

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2108380798-04tedbqo22jisn10d4qht99a87ith2qpw this guy got read so badly he ragequit for the rest of the set

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2108385701

[bold geode]

I'm guessing Regidrago can still be gas

[mighty stump]

Pretty much

[torn parrot]

I thought your legal name was tofu of the wood family

[mighty stump]

Sorry to disappoint

[civic mirage]

does ev training by beating wild pokemon and using items have any differences beside being faster?

[mighty stump]

Nope

[civic mirage]

and rare candies doesnt affect stats in any way right

[mighty stump]

Nope

[civic mirage]

cool ty

[torn parrot]

I’m kidding lol

[mighty stump]

I know haha

[timber falcon]

finally hit 1500 with caly-s

[solid frigate]

then again its Caly S but Good Job

[timber falcon]

i have a whole new view on the horse lol

no longer hate it

[solid frigate]

welp time to grind ogre oustin for Fresh Start Mochis

[timber falcon]

arent there berries you can use?

[solid frigate]

Yeah but i have not that much

and i need a Regular Ursaluna

[timber falcon]

oh yeah for that dialga team of urs

[solid frigate]

And then i have to take care of Terapagos Team and Make New RIllaboom,Alolan Ninetales and Clefairy

[timber falcon]

i think ill make a weather team now, im done with the shadow horse

[timber falcon]

i havent made an ingame team yet lol

[solid frigate]

i got every other mochis except the Fresh Start

[solid frigate]

i'm confident on my Dialga Team,Terapagos,Maybe

[timber falcon]

fresh start mochi is a pain for me to get so i just trade 4 it

[timber falcon]

im confident in 1 of my teams, but i cant get the mons neccesary without replaying games

make it 2 after caly

[solid frigate]

yeah and i need it for Dialga,Terapagos,Incineroar and Ogerpon

[solid frigate]

yeah

I want to make Kyogre or Miraidon for a Safety Measure

[timber falcon]

when making a rental, does that code stay forever? as in u can use ur own rental codes and then change the mons set for a different team

or must u get multiple of the same mon

[solid frigate]

idk

[timber falcon]

actually ill try it myself rn

anddd nintendo is dead

[solid frigate]

f

[torn parrot]

Wooow!!! Nice job!!!

This new Neil vgc clone is kinda cracked im ngl

https://youtu.be/w7Up61C34do?si=XMSonJY3sKMJDsd7

[solid frigate]

the turtl

[torn parrot]

This vid made me more interested in turtle

It’s just

I wish it’s teams weren’t so boring

[solid frigate]

i kinda now building Both Dialga and Terapagos Team

[timber falcon]

good teams tend to be cloned over and over again

with slight difference

[torn parrot]

I’m interested in playing it in best of 3 ladder

Seems like this guy solves the Miraidon problem

[timber falcon]

miraidon problem?

[torn parrot]

Sorry I mean

The other guy

Koraidon

[timber falcon]

oh yea, one of terapogos mortal enemy

[torn parrot]

He added rain dance torn which is pretty good into it

[solid frigate]

Zamzenta and Koraidon:

[timber falcon]

oh torn for offence?

[willow vault]

Very nice, well done

[torn parrot]

It has the shifu synergy

His solution to zamazenta is just brute force Urshifu I dunno how I feel about that as tera water and dragon exists

[timber falcon]

its the worst performance ive ever done, 120 games 😭 , but better late than never

[solid frigate]

WHERE THE FU IS THE CLEFFA

[torn parrot]

Wait

[timber falcon]

i mean was it OTS?

[willow vault]

I am doing so much worse don’t worry, I’m like 120 games in and still at 1200, I’ve been there for like 105 games

[solid frigate]

wait

[timber falcon]

reg G is the struggle

[torn parrot]

Yeah
But nvm I realized the nice thing about turtles is pressuring to not tera

[willow vault]

Yep I’m really not adapting well to it

[potent stratus]

I thought reg G isnt out? where is everyone playing reg g games?

[willow vault]

Showdown

[timber falcon]

pokemon showdown

[solid frigate]

Terapagos,Tornadus,Incineroar,Rillaboom,Urshifu Rapid and Alolan Ninetales or Grimmsnarl?

[torn parrot]

Oh jeez, good luck fam

[timber falcon]

grimsnarl for consistency

[willow vault]

You can understand when I’m saying I’ve been playing awful

It’s been tough…

[solid frigate]

ok i just need to Redivert the EVs on Incin,Terapagos and build a rilla then i am chillin

[timber falcon]

any shinies?

[solid frigate]

None

[torn parrot]

Did you start vgc recently or just hard to adapt to new format?

[willow vault]

Beginning of the game, 1st proper format I’ve struggled this bad

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-kurt-angle-100-yard-stare-what-are-you-serious-gif-4081464694509837388

[torn parrot]

Beginning of the game?

[solid frigate]

i have a Shiny Dialga tho in my dialga team

[willow vault]

Reg a

[timber falcon]

as someone who still doesnt have a shiny legendary. I have nothing to say

[torn parrot]

Ohhh

[torn parrot]

Maybe you just don’t like your restricted

[foggy lodge]

My only shiny legendary is Zygarde 😭😭😭

[timber falcon]

i honestly cant fathom having that much change throgh regs.

[willow vault]

Tried multiple

[foggy lodge]

I got it from the dynamax adventures completely random

[timber falcon]

thats peak

[solid frigate]

i'm not gonna use it

[foggy lodge]

Just waiting for Legends Z-A

Zygarde is going to be meta in Gen 10 i know

[timber falcon]

cant wait for balalnced mons in next gens

[torn parrot]

Maybe pick from the heart

[timber falcon]

where mega incin dominates the ladder

[torn parrot]

🥕

[solid frigate]

kek time for clear amulet Terapagos go wee

[timber falcon]

what-

[willow vault]

Already did but Palkia is incredibly inconsistent

[torn parrot]

Cus of the miss move?

[foggy lodge]

Intimidate + regenerator

[timber falcon]

caly-s

[willow vault]

Yep

[torn parrot]

Yeah I would like that either

[willow vault]

I would rather play 1000 games and not get above 1200 then play that (I’m hopelessly stubborn)

[timber falcon]

cant forget final shot, 50% chance to OHKO or lower stats by x0.25

[solid frigate]

Naming my Rillaboom Very hard DK

[torn parrot]

Well hm actually 95 ain’t too bad

[timber falcon]

miraidon?

[willow vault]

Might have to

[torn parrot]

I thought it was like 90 for some reason

[solid frigate]

Rillaboom after Grassy Terrain

[timber falcon]

max attack wood hammer on neutral

[solid frigate]

lol

[timber falcon]

2HKOd a rilla with that lul

[solid frigate]

I'm Naming Rillaboom Very Hard DK then

[timber falcon]

might wanna back up with that, sounds a bit off outloud

[solid frigate]

For the Memes

[timber falcon]

lul

[torn parrot]

95 accuracy pretty good

[willow vault]

Hydro pump is not however

[torn parrot]

Ohh so that’s it

[foggy lodge]

Hey what would be the best tera type for Groudon?

[willow vault]

Yep

[foggy lodge]

I'm between fire, grass or ghost

[willow vault]

It’s normally fire

An added perk is the damage boost it gives to heat crash

You know what I think I’m gonna give Rayquaza a go, I think it has some pretty good matchups

[mighty stump]

@torn parrot Just having Scarfurshifu + Flutter also fixes Koraidon; If you time your Tera correctly you can also KO Koraidon with SS

[mighty stump]

Be prepared to not run it in some games

[willow vault]

I’m aware

[fluid fiber]

I've been having fun with mine: https://pokepast.es/22d1a3648fab60be

[torn parrot]

Yeah it’s a really nice amount of pressure into it

[torn parrot]

I’m glad uv been having fun (:

[solid frigate]

i know this is not the place to show but wtf

[solid frigate]

Turtl

[mighty stump]

Significant data

Feels like I hit the nail on the head for a lot of teamcomps

[molten oasis]

2 rayquaza in top 10

[solid frigate]

6 Terapagos

https://pokepast.es/435d9d5049468cde

Ok final Version of Terapagos

[timber falcon]

Iron hands

[sullen hare]

anyone know how I can get an ability patch?

[timber falcon]

Pokelotto is my no.1 way

[sullen hare]

the item printer?

[timber falcon]

Mhm

[sullen hare]

I tried

but all I get is bad stuff

any other way?

[timber falcon]

Is it fully upgraded?

Cause it gets me loads

[sullen hare]

it’s at ultra ball

[timber falcon]

Make it master ball, it’s worth it

[sullen hare]

okay

don’t mind me asking

is there an easy way to farm materials for the printer?

[timber falcon]

Yes

At north province area 3 use a normal type 2 sandwich (encounter) and kill chaseys

[sullen hare]

okay thanks I’ll do that

[solid frigate]

Its just stupid Profit and Gambling and i love it

[sullen hare]

just one more thing, I need to get a hisuian liligant but I don’t have legends arceus, so do you know a way I could get it?

[timber falcon]

You’d have to trade with someone that has pla I think, not sure you can get it on SV

[rustic mountain]

idk if any1 got that 1st one down

[sullen hare]

you know anyone that could trade?

[timber falcon]

#trading_sv

[sullen hare]

thanks

[timber falcon]

Np

[solid frigate]

i am fighting someone who spamming 3 legendary-

restricted i mean

of Mewtwo,Groudon and Zacian

an their Mewtwo is SUPPORT???

[bold geode]

I did
Araquanid heat (no it ain't)

[solid frigate]

I'm trolling someone who brings Mewtwo,Zacian and Groudon

[molten oasis]

araquanid is the heat thats burning the kitchen

[bold geode]

Araquanid is the fire that you dial 911 for

[molten oasis]

araquanid is the sauce that ruined my sandwich

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Araquanid is the gas that comes out my rear end

[solid frigate]

Araquanid is the Condiment that ruined my stew

[molten oasis]

araquanid is the after effect of eating taco bell

[bold geode]

Araquanid is what you get when you divide by 0

[solid frigate]

Araquanid is What makes the Queen in dissapointment

[molten oasis]

araquanid is what made tofu retire

[solid frigate]

Araquanid is the reason why people lose to me even wih 3 restricted legendaries

WHY SOMEONE TERA INFRONT OF TERAPAGOS AND THE CHARIZARD HAS WRONG TERA

[rustic mountain]

yea lmao

idk bout that team comp going forward but terapagos + comfey and friends seems strong

[bold geode]

Araquanid is what split One Direction

[solid frigate]

why this feel sad

[molten oasis]

it does yea

[bold geode]

Terapagos and Comfey made it on the Friends set?

[molten oasis]

im waiting for results with kyurem a9

[rustic mountain]

yea in the finale

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[rustic mountain]

it was all foreshadowed

[molten oasis]

yea monke no one's playing it cuz caly ice exists

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/435d9d5049468cde

Yeah... I just Sacrifice the Healing and go for offense

[molten oasis]

and caly ice is stupid

[bold geode]

Even though it's 2 different archetypes

[molten oasis]

ok true, one is blizzard spam and the other is tr bulk mf

which i have a positive mu into

[bold geode]

Tbf though like
As I was saying with Mika
The stuff that people did to counter the Calys plus Articuno did also affect Kyurem as a side thing

[molten oasis]

what is that exactly?

[rustic mountain]

kyruem w seems like dogwater rn

[molten oasis]

we're searching for members

cuz theres no way it can be a bad mon

[bold geode]

Wide Guard/Steel types/manual weather

[molten oasis]

its finding the partners besides a9 thats tricky

[bold geode]

Also doesn't help that prime weather setters are slower than A9

[rustic mountain]

i dont think its a bad mon i think its just outclassed and has a meta that doesnt favor it or its partner a9

[molten oasis]

since when does a meta favor ice

[bold geode]

Like I don't think Kyurem A9 is bad

[rustic mountain]

idk ask tyo

[bold geode]

I actually wanted to look into it
But like
It's just like Flutter and Enamorus

[molten oasis]

ok, true

i think kyurem does have capabilities, ice dragon isnt too bad of a typing

[dapper crag]

- [Ice/Dragon]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Grass, Water

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Rock, Steel

Type Notes

Ice-types cannot be Frozen.
Ice-types have their Defense increased by 50% in Snow.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

lots of neutrals

[solid frigate]

ok i fight someone in SV casual and they have a Kyogre Team that its Tornadus Protect In Front of Urshifu

[molten oasis]

not the worst typing for a bulky snow abuser

[rustic mountain]

single restricted is a lot more harsh with selection. ur restricted really needs to be ur central carry so much more then double. otherwise ur just playing a harder game

idt kyruem w does enough to justify it takin up that restricted slot

[molten oasis]

well the options if you want the central carry are basically a caly, kyogre or groudon, or terapagos

as your best options

[solid frigate]

does Amoonguss survive +2 Stellar Tera Starstorm

[molten oasis]

zac and zama i also feel will be better later on

[rustic mountain]

probably

[molten oasis]

but not as the single

[solid frigate]

i need it to Crit

[molten oasis]

i do think that ky is in top 10 restricteds tho, or its like 11th

[solid frigate]

it survived by a bit=

[rustic mountain]

i think they can function in a single restricted better then a kyruem. but yea they dont hold the same pressures some of the others listed do

[molten oasis]

its still early so who knows

[rustic mountain]

yea

thats why i specified right now

[molten oasis]

strong ice damage is good with all the dragons and ground types

and i think imma keep exploring it for now

[bold geode]

Double restricted I already got idea, but my boy will not be at full capacity until then

[rustic mountain]

i mean ur free to explore/play whatever mons u want, gl

[molten oasis]

i do think its good its finding good partners

right now, i think av is the best item

then lorb

for a9 teams

[rustic mountain]

the idea and its just caly shadow zacian

[molten oasis]

or caly groudon

or caly kyogre

[solid frigate]

i won against a Kyogre Team-

[molten oasis]

or caly zama

or caly terapagos

[rustic mountain]

well monke was responding to zama zac specifically so

[molten oasis]

ik im just saying, theres a pattern

[solid frigate]

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[molten oasis]

cuz caly is the new fucking flutter

[rustic mountain]

yes csr also just gets better

[molten oasis]

yea

but then like, so do ky and zac/zama

although idk what restricted pairs with ky

[bold geode]

Close lmao

[solid frigate]

Oml Terapagos Woke up in the Best Possible Moment

[bold geode]

Caly S Zama

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Kyogre?

Terapagos Lunala?

[molten oasis]

man i love turning off my own weather

[timber falcon]

Does paonite still work these days?

[molten oasis]

yes

[solid frigate]

no i have an Idea just a stupid one

[timber falcon]

Good ima use it then

[rustic mountain]

well yea most things will have more viability as a result but the strong also get stronger so it really stays the same in certain respects. its just a matter of double restricted opening up more potential possibilities for others

[rustic mountain]

in reg f or reg g

[timber falcon]

G

[rustic mountain]

i havent seen any

[molten oasis]

yea, i do think that ky has potential we just need to find ky and a9's best friends

[bold geode]

You can give Caly S Snarl and Wisp
Fast support make Zama happy probably

[timber falcon]

Cause im tryna make a 2-2-2 team, never had one b4

[molten oasis]

if we didnt have shifu i think zac has a really hard time

[solid frigate]

if someone switch in Groudon/Koraidon/Miraidon and then Tera?

[rustic mountain]

i feel like delegating csr to support is just a throw

[molten oasis]

so i think in that regard its a similar situation

no

[rustic mountain]

oh my b lurker

[bold geode]

First Reg G 2-2-2 I saw was Chi Caly, Dnite Pao, DozoGiri

[molten oasis]

im not doing that lmao

[rustic mountain]

wrong response

[molten oasis]

oh, all good

[rustic mountain]

this is wat i meant to answer

[molten oasis]

also yea caly s as an outright support seems kinda stupid

[rustic mountain]

csr support jus feels weird

[solid frigate]

kinda wanna see if Terapagos Lunala would make Terapagos more valueable

[molten oasis]

terapagos is top 5

its already really valuable

[solid frigate]

ik i want to make it even better

[timber falcon]

Oh that’s interesting, though I’m thinking Zama 2-2-2, with dozogiri , rillazenta (made that up but it sounds cool) , and paonite.

[rustic mountain]

could be an interesting core

[molten oasis]

i feel like adding some kind of fast mode

[bold geode]

I mean Cunha did it, and JoeUX9 the other day when coaching actually mentioned Wisp

[molten oasis]

helps with terapagos since its slow to get going

[rustic mountain]

i think like the others terapagos just becomes better in dual restricted

[molten oasis]

tbf i think most of them get better

[solid frigate]

since Lunala has both Trick Room and Tailwind and its also Very Good in Utility,I think it would Outshine

[timber falcon]

Don’t they all?

[molten oasis]

the bad ones dont

[solid frigate]

liike Mewtwo

[timber falcon]

I wouldn’t say mewtwo is “bad” just not as good as the others

[molten oasis]

well they dont get better cuz why would you use them

[solid frigate]

it got invaliated by Calyrex so hard

[rustic mountain]

i think 1 or the other both feel like too much for the current meta. and joe mentioned that coaching u?

[molten oasis]

it was already outclassed

i think sash wisp caly is good

[timber falcon]

This is like saying all psychic types would be invalidated

[radiant siren]

Psychic type sucks lowkey though

[rustic mountain]

yea sash is cool but idk bout wisp tbh it seems like wasteful for it most times

[timber falcon]

Not all

[radiant siren]

copium

[timber falcon]

It sucks offensively I’d say actually

[radiant siren]

grass fire water core

not psychic in there

[molten oasis]

its not really that good yea, fairy does psychics job better

[timber falcon]

Mhm

[molten oasis]

although eforce teams are solid

[solid frigate]

some Psyschic types like Lunala and Gothitelle are good but they are backed by their Utility and ability

not typing

[radiant siren]

they good in spite of the typing

which further proves that psychic sucks

[rustic mountain]

plenty of good mons are psychic types but generally they do have another type to go w/ it but not always

[solid frigate]

But still, those are Psychic types still.

[radiant siren]

i see no tera psychic on anything outside of pushing STAB

[molten oasis]

there's arent any single type psychic types that are good rn

[timber falcon]

So? That just means it’s not used as a defensive tera often

[molten oasis]

they all have secondary typings

[solid frigate]

its not even a Defensive Tera but Psychic types still have some use

[molten oasis]

and abilities that help it

[radiant siren]

For Psychic to be viable you got to have Terrain + Psyspam

Which exemplifies how gimped the typing is competitively lol

[molten oasis]

ok, no

[timber falcon]

Saying psychic types suck as a whole is a bit, wrong. You can say it’s a bit situational against the current meta however, I’d argue so

Unless dual typing ofc

[molten oasis]

theres plently of viable psychic types

[bold geode]

He streamed coaching someone else
Me too broke for that

[rustic mountain]

gothitelle has won regionals, cress has been a staple for years

[bold geode]

Also I got Tofu for free 🤣

[timber falcon]

The typing itself is what I’m getting at

[molten oasis]

that dont require terrain and eforce

[solid frigate]

gothitelle,Lunala,Brongzong,Cresselia

Heck Tapu Lele does not spam EP

[molten oasis]

im not responding to you OTOT

[rustic mountain]

i think its disingenuous to say they are outright bad

[radiant siren]

Who uses Psychic tera rn in singles/doubles

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[radiant siren]

gimme one abuser

[molten oasis]

armarouge

[rustic mountain]

nobody is arguing tera psychic

[molten oasis]

hatterene

[rustic mountain]

atleast im not

[molten oasis]

the eforce users

[radiant siren]

Hatt is niche, Armarouge forgotten

[timber falcon]

What?

[solid frigate]

ummm i am seeing tons on Koraidon teams-

[molten oasis]

ik someone who'd like a word with ya

[rustic mountain]

im saying the psychic type isnt inherently bad and theres a lot of mons that are and have been good that are psychic type even if just partially

[radiant siren]

so ya Psychic not good from my experience so far

[timber falcon]

Armourouge disrespect is crazy, and hat is not niche

[solid frigate]

hatterene is very good

[molten oasis]

good, not very

being walled by steel sucks

[radiant siren]

we don't have the same usage for very good lol

[timber falcon]

Unless tera fire mystic fire

[radiant siren]

I don't look at Hatt for my regulation team rn

I look at much stronger options

[molten oasis]

are you playing psyspam?

[timber falcon]

Just cause u don’t doesn’t mean others won’t lul

[solid frigate]

that also work

[radiant siren]

None of whch are Psychic btw

[timber falcon]

Great so now calys are bad

[molten oasis]

why would you look at hatt if it isnt a eforce based team

[radiant siren]

Ya maybe Farigiraf I forgot

[molten oasis]

also no, they are good despite their typings

[solid frigate]

FORGOT???

[radiant siren]

That one is nice tech for doubles

[timber falcon]

Bobby are u talking m reg F or G?

[rustic mountain]

lmao yea idk imma have to disagree, i think it most cases u wanna go for damage. wisping w/ csr just feels bad to me most times right now. like u have to be in such specific positions where wisp + its partner not pressuring u is the best move for winning the game. but im not like losing games being like oh man if i had wisp on csr i win that or it changes the dynamic of any specific archetype matchup having it vs not

[solid frigate]

How did you forgot the giraffe-

[rustic mountain]

i feel like having a partner like incin or chi yu for wisp and snarl stuff just makes more sense

[radiant siren]

doesn't fit on team I'm building, it's inconsistent

[timber falcon]

[molten oasis]

what is this so called team you're building

[radiant siren]

talking metagame for doubles

[solid frigate]

its literally one of the 2 mons that consistently use Trick Room-

[timber falcon]

Which one, G or F? I assume F cause G doesn’t rly have a meta rn

[molten oasis]

calling fari inconsistent is wild

[bold geode]

Right
It's just like
Hell the support one is still just sash max max so it still does damage at least

[radiant siren]

been everywhere, two formats overlapping

[bold geode]

It's just something imma try for the fuck of it tbh

[molten oasis]

what team are you building right now

[radiant siren]

G has some meta development, at least on few discords I See

[timber falcon]

Oh, then how is farig inconsistent

[radiant siren]

here people talk about G too

[molten oasis]

did not ask about your status in both formats

[timber falcon]

Ik, but it’s not officially out yet

[solid frigate]

i literally using one on an Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind team

[radiant siren]

chill out lol don't need to be fukin aggro

[molten oasis]

you're dodging my question

[rustic mountain]

hes a fantastic player so i dont wanna undersell what hes saying but for how ive been playing csr and have gauged the meta so far those are my thoughts but hes prolly like 1700s playing a different format rn so whose to say haha

[solid frigate]

you are the one that makes us Aggro-

[timber falcon]

At least when takes are bad realise mistakes

[radiant siren]

talking to the lurker not you lol

but yeah fari been inconsistent on showdown for me so far

moving away from trick room

[solid frigate]

Says the one that forgot the Giraffe

[molten oasis]

what is the team you are using

[bold geode]

Right lmao
Like the reason I wanna look at it is cuz like
Zama would probably appreciate the faster support as everything that does that is either slow or doesn't do damage which I sorta don't like, which changes when staring at that fuckin horse

[radiant siren]

not fix, experimenting with good stuff

[molten oasis]

[timber falcon]

WHAT ARE THESE GOOD STUFF

[solid frigate]

trust me he said his team in funny and Me and other person don't see anything funny

[solid frigate]

basically Meta Threats and Lando T

[bold geode]

The squad ain't laughin

[molten oasis]

what is stoping you from sending a paste of what you're playing with

[timber falcon]

Meta threats?

[solid frigate]

i saw his Paste Before

[radiant siren]

your attitude tbh

[radiant siren]

I doubt lol, never posted one yet

[rustic mountain]

yea i guess its hard to say to for a format after a format we dont even fully know yet but i feel like snarl and wisp went a longer way in nullifying dmax turns and its effectiveness whereas now its different in some ways how games are played/what the focus is now that tera exists

[autumn vault]

He is not being that rude

[molten oasis]

oh what do i need to kneel down to you and beg for a paste

[radiant siren]

Sort of tbh, I don't like weirdos

[rustic mountain]

and wisp and snarl are gna be great, just on csr specifically its like idt its the move

[timber falcon]

Why is there even an argument atp this is going nowhere

[rustic mountain]

maybe 1 or the other like i said before but both nah

[bold geode]

Right
I might also do like Snarl Psyshock too cuz like
Wisp would be for physical like Groudon or Caly I which tbh Zama doesn't give a fuck about

[radiant siren]

don't know, just that psychic typing is very mid to me

[molten oasis]

i am not the weirdo here you just showed up

[solid frigate]

Ahem-

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fair

[solid frigate]

its not a paste but yea

[radiant siren]

How is that a fucking paste ?

[rustic mountain]

snarl/psyshock/barrage/protect feels fine

[radiant siren]

Care to explain to me for real

[molten oasis]

thats just mons, doesnt tell me the moves, items, etc

[solid frigate]

I SAID ITS NOT A PASTE BUT STILL

[radiant siren]

Cause that's just 6 Mons

[bold geode]

Yeah either Psyshock or like
Fairy coverage maybe

[rustic mountain]

but snarl/wow/barrage/protect its like ur coverage is nothing w/ tera now csr has so much more available to it

[timber falcon]

Oh so it’s just some meta mons

[rustic mountain]

its almost like ur nerfing a broken mon for no reason

[bold geode]

Actually I got Zama for the dark types
Brother

[molten oasis]

until im shown a reason to im just done with ya, so anyway

[timber falcon]

I mean Bobby, what do you consider good?

[molten oasis]

anyway, support caly s isn't worth

[timber falcon]

Why would one even use that

[rustic mountain]

thats fine but wat do u need to wisp really w/ intimidate and a +1 def boost and tera

[molten oasis]

i think maybe 1 supportive move on a sash set or smth but thats kinda it

[radiant siren]

flutter mane raging bolt incineroar urshifu rillaboom chien pao ogerpon landorus tornadus gholdengo amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

just attack w/ caly and snowball

[bold geode]

Right just realized

[rustic mountain]

hahaha

[radiant siren]

All these are good stuff to me right now

[rustic mountain]

those are good mons yes

[timber falcon]

Basically the top usage mons

[molten oasis]

yea they're good

[bold geode]

Like Snarl still has use, but I guess Wisp was for Dmax shit

[timber falcon]

In order

[molten oasis]

that does NOT tell us what you're using, which you've been dodging the whole conversation

[rustic mountain]

yea well just have to see how this format plays out and then how that rolls into dual restricted

[radiant siren]

your conversation isn't mine 1st, your attitude also highly weird 2nd

[timber falcon]

Bobby, different teams have different archetypes, just cause they’re not in top top usage doesn’t mean they aren’t good

[radiant siren]

experimenting with some of the good meta Mons isn't that complex

[bold geode]

Yeah I just love Zama, it be stupid bulky for no reason

[radiant siren]

you mean winning ya

[molten oasis]

ok, what teams are you using

[radiant siren]

to me if a team wins for me, that's good enough

[molten oasis]

yk what im popping the question whats your elo at

[timber falcon]

Yeah so what team have u been using

[rustic mountain]

bunch of teams this format w/ weird picks that have won

[radiant siren]

mix of these Pokemon tbh

[molten oasis]

thats not a team

[rustic mountain]

or been successful atleast at irl tours

[radiant siren]

been experimenting with different grass types, ogerpon forms

[timber falcon]

Just say one of the teams you’ve made

Any

[radiant siren]

I already said one of these, someone posted it here lol

[bold geode]

Bobby show us a team you made with said mons

[solid frigate]

the audacity to ignore Indeedee,Farigaraf,Pelipper(In Reg F),Gouging Fire,Armarouge,Dondozo(Kinda),Tatsugiri(Kinda) and Iron Bundle is insane.

[rustic mountain]

i def wanna try it

[molten oasis]

thats 6 mons

that is NOT a team

[radiant siren]

no some of them just are bad to me

[bold geode]

Oh my God
Guys just ignore him tbh

[molten oasis]

sure monke, sure

[solid frigate]

honestly Monke,Yeah i need a Break

[timber falcon]

Okidoki

[radiant siren]

ima ignore some of that chaos anyway

[molten oasis]

not respecting you until i get proof anyway

[radiant siren]

lot of weirdos here, hope you're not as cringe when you game

[rustic mountain]

restricteds i still need to play/test out for this format: zama/ogre/gmoney/terapagos/caly ice

[radiant siren]

see that, right just that... that idea of respect from someone I don't care about

[molten oasis]

im sticking with zac ky and maybe groudon

[bold geode]

Nah, you're just being difficult for no reason, hope you're not like that when you game

[rustic mountain]

oh miraidon too i guess but im waiting for an actual good team for it

[solid frigate]

Body Press Zama or Support Zama?

[rustic mountain]

body press

[bold geode]

You Body Press Zama always

[molten oasis]

ok Bobby do what you want no one cares

[solid frigate]

Terapagos,Dialga and Either Kyogre or Miraidon

[timber falcon]

I think I’m gonna work with K black after perfecting Zama, I do think it can work nicely

[solid frigate]

I'm Hard Locking on Terapagos and Lunala in 2 Restricted

[rustic mountain]

got quite a few kyruem fans here

[timber falcon]

Peak legendary man can’t lie

[molten oasis]

idt k black is that good

[solid frigate]

Kyurem white woohoo

[timber falcon]

Can’t know until you’ve used/seen 🗣️ (haven’t seen it ONCE)

[solid frigate]

but tbf,I am not comfortable on Kyurem

[molten oasis]

the physcial coverage is kinda terrible

[timber falcon]

Is it?

[solid frigate]

i seen 2 but all kinda meh

[dapper crag]

Kyurem-Black's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Cut, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Fly, Freeze Shock, Frustration, Fusion Bolt, Giga Impact, Ice Fang, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Slash, Steel Wing, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Freeze-Dry, Glaciate, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Psychic, Round, Shadow Ball, Sheer Cold, Signal Beam, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Confide, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Imprison, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Noble Roar, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Kyurem-Black.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[rustic mountain]

i faced 1 kyruem black like 1st day of reg g

havent seen it since

[molten oasis]

you're forced to run icicle spear

[timber falcon]

Wellll

[solid frigate]

Bolt Beam Coverage Kyurem Black?

[molten oasis]

or ice fang, as freeze shock is a 2 turn move

[timber falcon]

Fusion bolt u mean?

[molten oasis]

so maybe a loaded dice set could be good

[solid frigate]

no-

[timber falcon]

Ima do that then

Oh it also gets scale shot hmmmm

[solid frigate]

Fusio Bolt Ice Fang

[timber falcon]

Huh

I’m slow

[molten oasis]

you're just susceptible to intimidate

[solid frigate]

i am just thinking about that,

[molten oasis]

and breaking swipe, and icy wind, etc

[solid frigate]

RIP Kyurem does not Learn Ice Punch

[timber falcon]

This could be a problem couldn’t it

[molten oasis]

yea

holds it back

[solid frigate]

Kyurem can't learn Ice Punch is already a Meme on its own

[molten oasis]

ive looked at lots of tier lists ky black is pretty consistently low

[timber falcon]

Why are these physical moves so bad oml

[molten oasis]

which i think is because of the lack of coverage

[timber falcon]

Lul

[solid frigate]

Pls just Give Kyurem his Fist

[molten oasis]

i think white is good for multiple reasons

good, not the best

anyway, ice defense boost is very valuable

[timber falcon]

Anyways after not so much consideration I’m backing off kblack

[rustic mountain]

good choice

[timber falcon]

I want it to hit hard

Can’t do that with intim cycle

[molten oasis]

has raging bolt bulk

[rustic mountain]

i mean clear amulet but

still

[molten oasis]

ice coverage is strong, and has access to good coverage moves

[timber falcon]

Icicle spear need loading dice for consistent

[rustic mountain]

its a wash

[molten oasis]

its only other good move is ice fang

[timber falcon]

With 65 base power

[molten oasis]

its physical movepool is ass

[solid frigate]

i rather Clear Amulet with Ice Fang then

[molten oasis]

or

go play something else

[timber falcon]

Eternatus it is

[rustic mountain]

if u gta jump thru this many hoops its like just let it go

[solid frigate]

I think i show you a Meteor Beam set before,or is it someone else

[timber falcon]

Pretty sure it was u, maybe

[molten oasis]

do you know of an archetype you like OTOT?

[timber falcon]

Slow and steady?

[molten oasis]

...wha?

[timber falcon]

Well

I kinda just pick mons at random

[solid frigate]

Eternatus @ Black Sludge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 244 HP / 204 Def / 4 SpD / 56 Spe
Timid Nature

• Recover
• Flamethrower
• Toxic
• Dynamax Cannon

Does this work?

[rustic mountain]

def dont do that

[timber falcon]

Restricted mons

[molten oasis]

ok

[timber falcon]

The restricted mons at random

Then I go from there

[molten oasis]

so, do you like HO Trick Room or Balance, this is kinda the main 3 archetypes that also have like, sub archetypes ina way

[solid frigate]

Eternatus @ Power Herb
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 220 HP / 64 Def / 164 SpA / 60 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Agility
• Meteor Beam
• Dynamax Cannon
• Fire Blast

I have no idea if this gonna work-

[bold geode]

Just remember no Farigiraf cuz it sucks

[rustic mountain]

nah

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I like balance that works

[molten oasis]

yea cress? cress is bad guys

[timber falcon]

Always thinking of fwg

[molten oasis]

its a psychic type

[pearl wind]

go leftovers > black sludge because if you tera out of your poison typing you take damage every turn

[rustic mountain]

farigiraf is cool

[bold geode]

Idk man Lunala is kinda cheeks

[solid frigate]

ok fair

[molten oasis]

caly s? its so bad

its a psychic type

[timber falcon]

Inconsistent af

[bold geode]

Yeah Caly I is shit

[rustic mountain]

lets just let it go yall

[molten oasis]

let us have our fun

[pearl wind]

and i'd probably go cosmic power over toxic and run a different toxic user / t-spikes / status user

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Lmao
Sorry rough day, gotta clown some

[timber falcon]

Oh stall is interesting

[molten oasis]

i will stop its kinda mean ANYWAY

[molten oasis]

that, huh

[rustic mountain]

just better to not keep something going once its over, can escalate things unnecessarily

[molten oasis]

eh well, nvm

[solid frigate]

Stall Eternatus is just more better than Stall Lugia-

[timber falcon]

I disagree

[bold geode]

🤷‍♂️
Happens I guess

[molten oasis]

stall is bad

[bold geode]

Don't you dare bring up Lugia in this house

[timber falcon]

Stall works in singles at least

[molten oasis]

its okay now cuz eternatus has pressure and thats nice but like, its still not really good

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

But it’s my fav legend

[bold geode]

Stupid ass Lugia bitch

[molten oasis]

OTOT what restricteds do you like

[bold geode]

Fuck Lugia

[timber falcon]

Full pressure team + spite

[molten oasis]

pick 1-3

[rustic mountain]

no need to apologize but just throwing my two cents in

[timber falcon]

Ok ok

[solid frigate]

lul

[bold geode]

Give the two cents to me, I'm poor

[timber falcon]

Lugia , rayquaza , lunala

[molten oasis]

...

[solid frigate]

Lunala?

ig

[molten oasis]

im not even gonna dive into the lugia ray is kinda mid so ig lunala

[rustic mountain]

[timber falcon]

Already done that

[rustic mountain]

kinda mid?

[bold geode]

I'm dumping my life savings into Pepe Coin IMMEDIATELY

[timber falcon]

And it’s my most successful team

However I do need some HO experience

Which is why I used caly-s

[solid frigate]

go for it then,if you are confident on it then go on it

[molten oasis]

why?

[molten oasis]

idk how good ray is rn

i haven't heard good things

[rustic mountain]

its very much mid

not even kind of

[molten oasis]

i see

[solid frigate]

2 Rayquaza in top 10 of a tournament,but needs chien pao sooooo yeah

[timber falcon]

Tofu said it’s better to use play styles I’m not used to, to get better. I’m used to defending against HO. Now I’m tryna take the wheel

[rustic mountain]

i barely even saw it on my recent climb

[molten oasis]

ig thats fair

[timber falcon]

Woah woah woah

[rustic mountain]

ive been enjoying ho a lot rn

[molten oasis]

go play caly deedee tornshifu and lando chi yu

[timber falcon]

It’s better to use than to judge

[timber falcon]

With which mons

[molten oasis]

thats like, basic HO rn

[rustic mountain]

wen ur team is 5/6 of these mons

[molten oasis]

whats the one that's not here?

[timber falcon]

Is moraidon a good HO experience?

[molten oasis]

i guess

[rustic mountain]

i mean theres a few different ho teams rn usually u want things that hit hard and are fast

chi yu csr is a given for most

[molten oasis]

yea, but i also think caly is the go to for ho

[solid frigate]

ah yes Moraidon

[timber falcon]

I have many type of teams I wanna try, weather, tr, and terrain

[molten oasis]

but miraidon bundle is decent

[rustic mountain]

im not using lando

[molten oasis]

what are you using instead?

[rustic mountain]

im using funny poison rock

[timber falcon]

Glimmers

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

ah

[solid frigate]

oh yeah.. thats kinda annoying to deal-

[rustic mountain]

went 38-13 got top 500 w/ it its been doing well

[molten oasis]

stab meteor beam is strong asf

[rustic mountain]

72% gxe

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cracked-earth-desert-dry-drought-death-valley-gif-24078639

[solid frigate]

Mortal spin ruins my team-

[molten oasis]

i havent gone on a grind with this kyurem team yet

[rustic mountain]

im just doing power herb meteor beam stuff so no mortal spin

[molten oasis]

passive playing mostly

[rustic mountain]

sludge/earth power/meteor beam/protect

[timber falcon]

I find glimmers so tricky to play against

[molten oasis]

even tho like, its obviously not the best archetype its the one im enjoying the most

[timber falcon]

Literally have a crisis on wether I read tera or not

[rustic mountain]

honestly its more for the offense/coverage then anything. spikes usually dont proc or arent too relevant tho a few games it helped

[molten oasis]

i also havent had an a9 team in a minute

[rustic mountain]

if ur not having fun no point really

[molten oasis]

and then with the weather setters both being weak to ice

[solid frigate]

its just annoying to deal with man,and if i saw a Glimmora on opposing team,i lost cuz all my Pokemon except Terapagos and Tornadus are all Physicall

[molten oasis]

i just, try to remove them

they dont like kyurem lol

[autumn vault]

Why Zekrom > Kyurem B

[timber falcon]

Glim is simply the mon that makes me think the hardest

[bold geode]

Yucky HO
Balance for the win

[rustic mountain]

i got rain dance on torn so weather kyruem stuff doesnt really bother me

[solid frigate]

we know lol

[rustic mountain]

im mainly balance but, ho in early format is king

[molten oasis]

im not saying the archetype as a whole im just saying the mon itself

[timber falcon]

Sukuna supporter talking about balance?

[solid frigate]

same for me,and also Bolt,but thats me

[bold geode]

Huh

[rustic mountain]

monke r u anime only or manga too

[molten oasis]

kyurem good into the manual setters

[rustic mountain]

for jjk

[solid frigate]

Jujutsu Kaisen based

[bold geode]

Nah you see, the best play style id gaslighting your opponent into a certain play then countering it

[molten oasis]

i'm mostly just on the train of ice coverage being good and i do have ways to handle things so i think i'll be fine

[bold geode]

Both

[molten oasis]

i think dengo is really good on snow

[timber falcon]

Why

[rustic mountain]

u read 257?

[timber falcon]

Veil?

[molten oasis]

it appreciates that bulk a lot

[rustic mountain]

like the most recent chp

[bold geode]

It still spoilers or?

[rustic mountain]

spoilers

[timber falcon]

Oops

[molten oasis]

and it beats zac and zama, the things ky/a9 hates

[rustic mountain]

yea im not asking u to spoil shit here haha we can just dm if its story based or spoiler tag

[bold geode]

Wait so ||is it nephew or brother?||

[rustic mountain]

||nephew||

[timber falcon]

1st one

[solid frigate]

Dengo?

[molten oasis]

yes

steel ghost is still a great typing

[rustic mountain]

||yuji is the son of jin who is sukunas brother reincarnated||

[timber falcon]

Oh now I know how to do spoiler tag, neat

[rustic mountain]

yea its nice

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah they can't attack unless it Tera

[molten oasis]

i think the core of ky/a9 dengo and wellspring is really good

for ky

[timber falcon]

I just realised I got rilla for all my team lul

Peak grass type

[molten oasis]

rilla good

[timber falcon]

What are others that I can use though?

[solid frigate]

Rillaboom when Grassy Terrain

[molten oasis]

then incin is just, incin, and atm i have a speed booster flutter for speed control along with ice wind a9

kyurem likes having speed control

[timber falcon]

🪵 + 🔨= ☠️

[autumn vault]

Amonguss? Ogerpon?

100% not the monkey

[timber falcon]

I was gonna say except those 2

[molten oasis]

you high

[solid frigate]

it destroyed a Groudon before when i play Against someone used Mewtwo and Groudon

[molten oasis]

rilla is definetly the best or second best grass type rn

[autumn vault]

I was saying that in terms of viability

[molten oasis]

yea my point still stands

[timber falcon]

How does tsarena perform

[molten oasis]

its fine

decent kyogre partner

[solid frigate]

i think its like that in SWSH

[molten oasis]

ogerpon is defnietly up there as well but i think after tera itll lose some of its power it has now

[autumn vault]

Viability as in how good it is, the meta can make pokemon moe viable thus rillaboom is probably the best grass

[timber falcon]

Btw I have seen a few caly-ice bonnet teams, what does it do?

[autumn vault]

But i prefer Ogerpon over it

[molten oasis]

yea, rilla is top 3 always

amoonguss as well

[solid frigate]

Rilla,Amoonguss and Ogerpon

[molten oasis]

for this gen yea

its argued kartana is top 3

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 798: Kartana

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

59/181/131/59/31/109

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[timber falcon]

oger still needs some more appearances in future gens

[solid frigate]

Yeah cuz Ogerpon is only in this gen and Kartana is not in here

[molten oasis]

that is why

[timber falcon]

follow me is nice though

[timber falcon]

wtf

why its attack so high

[solid frigate]

i do love the Attact stat

[autumn vault]

Kartana seems like it hits like a fucking truck, i agree

[molten oasis]

and hilariously

[autumn vault]

181 attack stat is no joke

[molten oasis]

av is a very viable option on it

[solid frigate]

Paper cut but also Paper Thin

[timber falcon]

hitting 200 without any ev training is crazy

[solid frigate]

yeah make sense

[autumn vault]

We can tell

[timber falcon]

and its defence is rly good to boot

though health not so much

[molten oasis]

ok, flutter

[autumn vault]

Atleast the defense is good

[molten oasis]

i will say nothing more

[timber falcon]

people actually invest bulk in it?

[autumn vault]

51/131/31 is literally iron bundle's bulk but even more extreme

[molten oasis]

anyway OTOT i do agree with tofu about exploring archetypes, id try to do HO while its so good

[timber falcon]

i was expecting kartana to be mostly scarf sets

[molten oasis]

thats a viable option

[timber falcon]

yeah i have actually chosen one

[molten oasis]

from what ive seen av band scarf life orb we're all good items for it

[autumn vault]

Fuck it, choice band (ik it is very bad on it ok)

[solid frigate]

but AV feels more safe

[timber falcon]

ive gone with my box legendary, koraiodon

[molten oasis]

cool

[autumn vault]

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

but will the 31 spdef not be too small?

[autumn vault]

Kor>Mir

[timber falcon]

in design yes

[solid frigate]

i think invest on it? lemme check

[autumn vault]

Viablility it depends

But yeah miraidon is better

[timber falcon]

it reaches 83

[solid frigate]

Kartana @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 244 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Leaf Blade
• Smart Strike
• Sacred Sword
• Aerial Ace

I saw this in VGC 21

[timber falcon]

oh yeah it doesnt even need attack boost LOL

[autumn vault]

Seems like a great spread

[molten oasis]

kek

beast boost boosts its attack

[timber falcon]

boost beats boosts

[autumn vault]

Attack is so high you basically dont need investment on it

[molten oasis]

bears, beats, battlestar galactica

[solid frigate]

wha

[molten oasis]

anyway i got homework to do

[autumn vault]

Ok bye

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[timber falcon]

its 9:33, i have comp scince and maths HW to complete. Just remebered cause of this lol

no teambuilding for me this night

[autumn vault]

Ah yes, scince

[timber falcon]

cya guys

[autumn vault]

Bye

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[solid frigate]

lol

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 798: Kartana

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

59/181/131/59/31/109

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

It has the same speed as A9 right?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 38: Ninetales-Alola

Types

Ice/Fairy

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/67/75/81/100/109

Total

505

Base Species

Ninetales

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[solid frigate]

oh wow

[foggy lodge]

Huh

Ultra beasts are funny

I wish they were in SV but they would probably be turbo broken with tera

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 805: Stakataka

Types

Rock/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

61/131/211/53/101/13

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

Yeah i wouldn't want to see this thing becoming a ghost type

[solid frigate]

Tera Steel Kartana Smart Strike:

[dapper crag]

Move: Smart Strike

This move does not check accuracy.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

70

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

It's only 70 BP??

[solid frigate]

but for Kartana,I don't see its bad

[foggy lodge]

Does it have iron head?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 798: Kartana

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

59/181/131/59/31/109

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

Kartana's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Cut, False Swipe, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Guillotine, Knock Off, Last Resort, Leaf Blade, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, Razor Leaf, Return, Sacred Sword, Smart Strike, Solar Blade, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Giga Drain, Hidden Power, Round, Snore, Steel Beam, Vacuum Wave

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Iron Defense, Laser Focus, Protect, Rest, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swagger, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Tailwind, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Kartana.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

No it doesn't

And is good that it doesn't

[solid frigate]

yeah i am fine Kartana have a 70 BP move

[foggy lodge]

Giving iron head to a Pokémon fast as Kartana

And with stab and THAT attack

[solid frigate]

yeah-

[solid frigate]

turtle i need it

[wooden gazelle]

what yall think of this Reg F team
https://pokepast.es/784ebe0e500e947c

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2108585129
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2108580940
kek

[solid frigate]

No Pelipper to help Archa?

[wooden gazelle]

oh wait archa is still there lol

one sec

forgor to change him

here
https://pokepast.es/e5225b5eeea298e7

[solid frigate]

hmmmmmm

Dragon Dance Roaring Moon Attack booster would be better

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2108589412-q40n2d18y0o3zjjicsse8othwqsxf4ipw
kek

[wooden gazelle]

k

[solid frigate]

cuz if you ran Hybrid Tailwind Trick Room, Roaring Moon could just use Attack Boost,Speed Booster does not needed cuz its already has Dragon Dance

[wooden gazelle]

true

[solid frigate]

if someone use Trick Room when you use Normal mode,You only have Moon that is fast turn slow so that other mons will not be bring down with it

[wooden gazelle]

makes sense

[solid frigate]

of course you can reverse Trick Room it,But it needs to sacrifice your Priority Bracket to do

[wooden gazelle]

yeah

[solid frigate]

others looks good

[wooden gazelle]

i prolly shouldn't use earthquake on the roaring moon right

since i already got lando

[dapper crag]

Roaring Moon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fly, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Iron Head, Jaw Lock, Knock Off, Lash Out, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Outrage, Rock Slide, Scale Shot, Shadow Claw, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Take Down, Throat Chop, Thunder Fang, U-turn, X-Scissor, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Air Slash, Dark Pulse, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hurricane, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Snarl, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Leer, Protect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tailwind, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Roaring Moon.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[solid frigate]

up to you

[wooden gazelle]

k

[bold geode]

[solid frigate]

best emote

[bold geode]

Fire emote

[solid frigate]

yep

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

wait where is it from-

[tough idol]

Banging emote there @molten oasis

[molten oasis]

frfr

[solid frigate]

wait is there something i don't know

[rustic mountain]

its an emote ripped from a pic taken from the last regional its not that deep

[solid frigate]

no i mean, i want to use it

[rustic mountain]

oh lmao

jus make ur own server and yoink it

[solid frigate]

heh

[charred saddle]

zamn

yoinker i see

[rustic mountain]

not for peoples art but for a ripped picture? sure

[solid frigate]

i'm just gonna murder someone with my final Version Terapagos Team

[charred saddle]

oh ye ye not that

[tough idol]

Yh nothing deep @solid frigate just a pic

[charred saddle]

🐒

[solid frigate]

ok something is wrong but i'll just go from my merry way

[molten oasis]

[patent marsh]

🤫 🧏‍♂️

[solid frigate]

time to go turtle mode

[tough idol]

turtle mode engaged

[solid frigate]

[cold ivy]

yo

can someone help me with teambuilding in dms?

[solid frigate]

aight

[foggy lodge]

Crystal dog

[solid frigate]

if Mabosstiff becomes Terapagos:

[foggy lodge]

Ivysaur is my lettuce dog

Today i won a tournament because of this move

[solid frigate]

amazing

[solid frigate]

WOLFEY WHYYYYY THE HORSE-

[next stump]

gotta win that free hawaii flight

[bold geode]

No Zama in top 8 this is bullshit

Hell NOT EVEN GROUDON WTF

Also ngl
Kinda hate seeing again Archaludon getting more love
Archaludon has been a thorn in my side but I gotta respect it

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Goated

[queen monolith]

I just fought a most likely hacker.

Got a trick room set up against his vikavolt, which had moved before me. After the trick room was up, he moved before me again

[molten oasis]

what speed is the mon at

the one that got outsped in tr

[charred saddle]

is there a chance of prio move, tailwind, or even like speed control

or even just quash

[queen monolith]

No. It used bug buzz

[queen monolith]

Farigiraf.

[molten oasis]

so, you clicked tr as fari?

[queen monolith]

I got the trick room off. But he still went before me

[molten oasis]

did you click tr on the farigiraf

[queen monolith]

On first turn yeah.

[molten oasis]

yea that explains it

[queen monolith]

Second turn i did hyper voice