#competitive_discussion

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autumn vault
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For me, 1317 elo with Zekrom

molten oasis
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cant get out cuz of just, stupid shit

autumn vault
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Explains it

timber falcon
autumn vault
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Low ladder is now ez for me

timber falcon
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Reg G gimmicks are a pain

autumn vault
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Anyways back to Tyranitar in reg G

molten oasis
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i found a murkrow, yay

autumn vault
molten oasis
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great

autumn vault
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Lost?

molten oasis
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lost to a guy who had a shifu faster than his ogerpon

molten oasis
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no, it wasnt

autumn vault
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That is weird

molten oasis
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i literally won if that wasn't the case

gentle badger
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how many vitamins do I buy to max out a stat from 0 to 252?

molten oasis
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26

autumn vault
molten oasis
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im gonnna try icy wind on a9, i dont click helping hand much

autumn vault
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Also Ursaluna-blood moon was running a very weird set

gentle badger
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trying to give venu Iron but it isn't having effect

molten oasis
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i got crit again, lovley

autumn vault
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The game has beef with you at this point

molten oasis
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it is what it is

next stump
gentle badger
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that isn't supposed to be the case, I need the 4 Defense EVs

chrome knot
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you successfully messed up somewhere that means

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was it a fresh venu or has it been used in battles previously?

gentle badger
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I tried to clear it out with the Stat reducer berries

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are the Sp attack and Speed stats not supposed to be maxed out?

molten oasis
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well, started at 1200's and ended in 1200's

bold geode
molten oasis
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low elo sucks

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no

autumn vault
bold geode
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Oh
I had to stall out a Clefairy, Mimikyu, Lunala, and Amoongus
It seems like you wouldn't have to, but it burned my Urshifu and burned my Tera Grass Incin

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And just kept switching and spamming healing shit

molten oasis
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fun

bold geode
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Which it's funny cuz it was a set
It was 22 turn one game and then just immediate 4 turn win

molten oasis
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that sounds pretty lame lol

autumn vault
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I agree

molten oasis
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im gonna go get homework done now, i might reconsider kyurem's tera

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might

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i like boosting fusion flare a lot so, we'll see

bold geode
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Nah cuz see
For 5 turns after Shifu was burned, I just kept it in and spammed Strikes cuz I realized "well hell at least I can't be put to sleep" so I just used Shifu for chip until it died

autumn vault
molten oasis
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no

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im gonna go do homework now, bye

autumn vault
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Bye

bold geode
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And then realized "oh you're tryna stall me fuck it I'll do it too"
And then legit kept Amoongus Incin in the rest of the game and kept Zama in the back healthy, and killed their second Mon right at the end

gentle badger
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turns out that I didn't use qualot berry yet

autumn vault
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Seriously it looks like incineroar has 2 eyes, maybe it has 4 eyes?

bold geode
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It does
It's Incineroar Sukuna

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So 4

gentle badger
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according to calcium in Pokemon, Magic comes from the bones

timber falcon
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oh yeah this is a question i keep forgetting to ask

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but why hasnt showdown been copyright claimed?

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not that i want it to be

stray badger
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I assume because it doesn't profit anything?

gentle badger
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prolly didn't notice it yet.

stray badger
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It's still infringement, but it's a better chance of qualifying as fair use. It might also count as "informative"

torn parrot
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That’s not even a question

autumn vault
rustic mountain
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it doesnt infringe on their games at all really otherwise they would

autumn vault
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Only copies the pokemon

rustic mountain
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i meant moreso sales wise

autumn vault
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True

rustic mountain
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but yea also in what it does, its just a battle simulator. if they decide to make one again maybe then theyd take action. i hope not i love sd

gentle badger
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they already took brick bronze from us, we can't stand to lose another legend.

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Focus sash dissapears after one use

bold geode
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Man it's actually so odd not having Rilla for Psyspam

gentle badger
autumn vault
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Fire can be swapped for Ghost

bold geode
gentle badger
gentle badger
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absolutely not

autumn vault
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Honestly idk

gentle badger
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there's leftovers and wide lens left.

autumn vault
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I would go Wide Lens

gentle badger
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and prolly covert cloak.

autumn vault
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Or cloak

charred saddle
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??

autumn vault
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Personally i would go Cloak or Wide lends, Sash and L-Orb are the best items for it

charred saddle
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what do you mean it disappears

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items in the battle doesnt disappear

gentle badger
charred saddle
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???

autumn vault
gentle badger
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npc battle

charred saddle
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are you making a set for comp doubles?

gentle badger
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yes, but I also want to use it in story gameplay.

autumn vault
bold geode
charred saddle
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dude for ur story stuff it doesnt matter

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just use what you want and u will still probably win

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it doesnt matter for npc stuffs

pastel blade
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Lmao

charred saddle
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and ur seeking advice in a comp chat

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for story stuff, which is irrelevant

gentle badger
charred saddle
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oh then im definitely hacking. mine doesnt poliwhirlkek

timber falcon
charred saddle
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which also apparently coincidentally was only using it on VGC

autumn vault
bold geode
gentle badger
bold geode
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Made into emote

charred saddle
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goodluck with that cloak

gentle badger
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fine I'll do Focus Sash

autumn vault
torn parrot
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You guys

molten oasis
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bo3 anyone?

timber falcon
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i can bo3 after my match rq

molten oasis
timber falcon
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ok i can do one rn

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Totorules

molten oasis
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finishing a match 1 sec

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k, sent

bold geode
gentle badger
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now that I'm nearly done setting up Venusaur, now I gotta partner them up with a sunsetter.

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unfortunately, Torkoal doesn't seem to appear on the teammates list

molten oasis
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@timber falcon ggs well played

timber falcon
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yeah i need to work on Mus

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Gg

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i keep losing to teams like that and pagos

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guess farig is getting subbed for bronzong

molten oasis
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im surprised that cc did 33%

timber falcon
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same, kwhite is beefy

molten oasis
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i thought it would do more

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its raging bolt bulk

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plus snow and veil

timber falcon
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well damn

mighty stump
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You don't need items for a regular playthrough..

timber falcon
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tofu is bronzong good into pagis

molten oasis
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why bronzong exactly?

timber falcon
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perfect counter (i think)

molten oasis
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i feel double fo and shifu can handle paogs

timber falcon
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and ice resist + kill

molten oasis
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it takes time to get it going

timber falcon
molten oasis
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which you should try to use to your advantage

bold geode
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Just Snarl spam

molten oasis
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that too

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theres no pagos counter

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like, outright

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its how you play into it

mighty stump
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Dude

timber falcon
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unless they tera ofc

mighty stump
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Tera Starstorm is neutral to everything

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There is not resist

molten oasis
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there is no counter

timber falcon
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i meant without tera, sorry shouldve specified that

mighty stump
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Doesn't matter

timber falcon
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i struggle with regular pagos the most

molten oasis
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what damage do you do back

mighty stump
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Set up neutrals means you still threaten it

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even if NVE, at +2 thats essentially neutral

timber falcon
molten oasis
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you have 2 forms of priority to chip it before shifu gets cc out

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to break shell

mighty stump
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+1 252+ SpA Terapagos-Terastal Tera Starstorm vs. 244 HP / 108+ SpD Bronzong: 53-63 (30.6 - 36.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Still a 4HKO, 3HKO at +2

bold geode
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Hehehe sounds like you need a hero
A hero perhaps

timber falcon
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palafin?

molten oasis
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could run zama

bold geode
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With a shield

molten oasis
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zama decent into pagos

timber falcon
molten oasis
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ik just an option

timber falcon
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im tryna make a clay-s team

mighty stump
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Understand that Terapagos does not do immediate damage most of the time

timber falcon
mighty stump
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And also to not worry about Teraing in front of it

bold geode
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I love Zama, I shall make the Zamazenta work without that bullshit ass Ting P2 shit

molten oasis
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well its not astral barrage go brr

mighty stump
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Keep in mind Tera-Starstorm is actually WEAKER if they Tera

molten oasis
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positioning it well matters

timber falcon
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which there are a lot of

molten oasis
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monke dont quag me mf

timber falcon
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ran into mirror coat tatsugiri yesterday

molten oasis
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also yes theres counterplay to caly cuz caly is fucking annoying

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ok that's weird

tame sky
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Toughts on stellar type enamorus?

timber falcon
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can work

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all i have to say

molten oasis
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contrary enam im guessing

bold geode
molten oasis
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just use fluttermane

bold geode
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It cheeks brother

molten oasis
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tera fairy moonblast go brr

timber falcon
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i mean, why is enamorus cheeks SatoshiuHmm

molten oasis
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flutter exists

timber falcon
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so?

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 905: Enamorus-Therian
Types

Fairy/Flying

Abilities

Overcoat

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/115/110/135/100/46

Total

580

Base Species

Enamorus

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Pokémon No. 905: Enamorus
Types

Fairy/Flying

Abilities

Cute Charm, Contrary (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/115/70/135/80/106

Total

580

Other Formes

Enamorus-Therian

molten oasis
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he said stellar and its safe to say he meant contrary stellar tera

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its inconsistent i believe

timber falcon
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enamurus and flutter are seperate mons

mighty stump
molten oasis
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ok what are they trying to do

bold geode
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Holy shit no way

timber falcon
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i belive so

molten oasis
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both mons want to be fast fairy special attackers

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its similar roles that flutter does better

mighty stump
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You're seeing them as two different Pokemon, but they have the same niche overlap unless theres something specific you need Enamorous to do

molten oasis
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the only edge id give to enam is contrary cuz its good

mighty stump
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Meh

molten oasis
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but also protosynthesis is just

timber falcon
molten oasis
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great ability

bold geode
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Scarf Enamorus Therian

molten oasis
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monke stop burning the kitchen

timber falcon
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hes onto something

mighty stump
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Ghost-typing means you're never open to Fake Out, higher Speed tier + more quickly accessible ability

bold geode
molten oasis
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yea the typing is also better

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for an offensive mon

mighty stump
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Enamorous Therian is your best bet mostly

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But getting a legitimiate one is a pointless chore

bold geode
molten oasis
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yea, getting 0 speed enam is kinda miserable

timber falcon
mighty stump
molten oasis
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and im never doing it

timber falcon
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oh 0 spe

molten oasis
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lmfao

timber falcon
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yeah getting the ivs u want in pla isnt it

molten oasis
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ivs dont show in pla

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so you have to hope you got lucky after transfering it into home

mighty stump
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Best way to do it is via PoGo I think

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And gamba

molten oasis
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and you have to replay the game to get it and its just, it sucks

timber falcon
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yeah, so once theyre in home theyre set, u cant go back and get another enamorus

molten oasis
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gamba?

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PoGo probably your best bet yea

gentle badger
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so, Torkoal is not on Venusaur's Double Ubers Teammates list.
Meaning I'll have to rely on a different sun setter

timber falcon
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i gave up on Pogo

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i got no pokeballs GengarSad

molten oasis
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why does that prevent you from running torkoal

timber falcon
gentle badger
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I'm just using doubles ubers because there's no Doubles anything goes

timber falcon
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Btw, what kind of caly-s teams exist, cause I’m not really feeling balanced

mighty stump
molten oasis
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caly indeedee tornshifu chi yu lando is something i see often

mighty stump
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The "tiers" do not specifically reference how good they are

gentle badger
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ah.

timber falcon
molten oasis
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screens caly with grimm ig

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like, grimm does screens

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could look at limitless tours for ideas as well

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caly s is the top picked thing

timber falcon
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Oh tofu changed his blog background? Very nice. Ima quickly look there to see if he got smth I can copy PrayGrovyle

molten oasis
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for restricted

molten oasis
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oh, i should go read that

mighty stump
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Its pretty short

timber falcon
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Ooo terapagos teachings

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I think where I go wrong in my caly-s teams, is my offensive options

mighty stump
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I mean

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Just run Caly-S Balance, theres already a template

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Rilla/Urshi/Incin + Torn/Amoong + Shadowrex

molten oasis
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im like 90% sure thats what he has but fari

mighty stump
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Literally those 5 + 1 Restricted probably works for literally everything

molten oasis
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no amoong

timber falcon
molten oasis
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i never said that

timber falcon
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Did you not?

molten oasis
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maybe you need to apply it more

timber falcon
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Ohhh ok

molten oasis
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but not add more fo pressure

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lemme get the set we just played

mighty stump
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I also figured out the easiest way to beat Terapagos with Shadowrex

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It was something to do with it's moveset

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So i'll let you figure that out

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No, not Tera Blast

timber falcon
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Focus blast go boom

molten oasis
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mighty stump
molten oasis
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@timber falcon for later if you want to review

mighty stump
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Doesn't hit for SE

dapper crag
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Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:
Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

timber falcon
gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
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calm mind?

autumn vault
timber falcon
autumn vault
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I want to Bo3 BUT it is very late rn

molten oasis
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could go taunt or snarl as it gets both

timber falcon
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It’s gotta be body press caly-s

autumn vault
molten oasis
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poky ill bo3 with you rq if you want

autumn vault
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You meant calyrex

molten oasis
timber falcon
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Caky Rex = 🍰 + 🐴

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Ok so yeah how tf does caly beat pagos without terablast?

molten oasis
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im gonna assume it has to go along the lines of taunt or calm mind

autumn vault
timber falcon
molten oasis
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maybe

pastel blade
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Is this anyone in here? I played a crazy game against her yesterday. Came down to my incineroar surviving on 1 hp and now I just saw her in this YouTube video lol

pastel blade
gentle badger
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Why does Venusaur need to be Ghost Tera?

next stump
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bypass fake out

gentle badger
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that's it?

autumn vault
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GG

molten oasis
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that mu's is rough, gg

timber falcon
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Gg

autumn vault
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now you see the power of zekrom

lofty tartan
# gentle badger that's it?

You're either Fire Tera Covert Cloak for Fake Out, or you're Ghost Tera for Fake Out and some item. Venusaur with Chlorophyll is really weak to Fake Out.

molten oasis
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wanna go again

autumn vault
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If you want to, sure

timber falcon
autumn vault
molten oasis
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no

timber falcon
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But that match raised my opinions on zekrom tbh

gentle badger
lofty tartan
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Just do Covert Cloak Tera Fire. You're thinking too hard.

gentle badger
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k

mighty stump
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If you're trying to pursue the "best set" it doesn't exist. There are always different considerations behind every set

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There will never be a "best answer" in response to viable sets

gentle badger
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k, then I'll fire up my Venusaur then.

solid frigate
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yeet

autumn vault
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gg

molten oasis
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ggs

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really close endgame

autumn vault
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Very

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If the sucker punch Ko'd then i would have won

timber falcon
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Entertaining games arkeknine

molten oasis
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i wonder

timber falcon
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Probably

autumn vault
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molten oasis
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youre jsut sash right?

autumn vault
timber falcon
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Yeah after that

gentle badger
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judge my current set.

timber falcon
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Regular old sun Venasaur arkeknine

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Very nice

gentle badger
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and I named him Greg.

molten oasis
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yea sacred 2hkos at that range

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252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 244 HP / 36 Def Kyurem-White through Aurora Veil: 91-108 (39.3 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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and fusion flare wouldn't be enough

autumn vault
molten oasis
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what?

timber falcon
autumn vault
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I used sucker punch onto flutter in hopes of killing it

molten oasis
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i was saying after the sucker if it killed

autumn vault
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Ah right

bold geode
molten oasis
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at -1 i dont outspeed

autumn vault
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What are the odds of sucker punch killing there?

gentle badger
timber falcon
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?

molten oasis
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was flutter at half?

autumn vault
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At 46%

gentle badger
autumn vault
molten oasis
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you're just 252 att?

timber falcon
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Oh ok

autumn vault
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Jolly

molten oasis
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252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sucker Punch vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane through Aurora Veil: 66-78 (42 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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it was a roll

molten oasis
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i thought my kyurem was outspeeding 205 at -1, gonna adjust that

timber falcon
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But hey, can’t forget cries could have happened after, ya never know

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Crits *

molten oasis
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mm

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i have to go timid probably

autumn vault
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Coin flip, you won, i lost

molten oasis
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mhmm

autumn vault
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It is at 46% health

timber falcon
gentle badger
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now it's time to get a Torkoal.

autumn vault
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I would like to Bo3 one last time but it is 11:02 PM or 23:02

molten oasis
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hmm

autumn vault
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It is past my sleep schedule

molten oasis
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go bed then

autumn vault
timber falcon
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Gn

autumn vault
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Bye, good night

molten oasis
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gn, thanks for the games

autumn vault
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your welcome

timber falcon
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You’re* 🤓

autumn vault
timber falcon
molten oasis
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i'm gonna go knock off on incin i think

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snarl good but i feel like my mu into the special attackers are fine without it

autumn vault
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Now if you don't mind i have to go sleep OT

timber falcon
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Sleep tight poliwhirlkek

solid frigate
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yeet

timber falcon
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Now, i have some Caly-s team fixing to do. But ima okay smth else

gentle badger
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Is Greg a good name for a Venusaur, or shall I rename it to Sunny to match its role as a Sun Sweeper.

molten oasis
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thats up to you

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i might forgo protect on a9 and go helping hand

gentle badger
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k, I got the torkoal

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time to build its set

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time to go to work.

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So I should prolly give it the Quiet nature, right?

molten oasis
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Yes

gentle badger
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k.

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and the top EV spread should be the one I do, right?

molten oasis
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Yea ig

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No actually

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Do 252/0/0/252/4/0

rustic mountain
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jus won a game b4 off double protect pepemostacho

gentle badger
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and I'm definitely gonna do Heat Rock for extended Fun in the Sun

molten oasis
gentle badger
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wait I thought Heat Rock for extended Sun would have been a good idea

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is extended Sunny Weather not needed?

tough idol
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You shouldn't need the extended turns

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You'd prefer the extra damage

solid frigate
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yeah since VGC battles are usually very fast

mighty stump
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😎

tough idol
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That's on my morning read list @mighty stump 👌 too much alcohol tonight 😅

gentle badger
tough idol
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@gentle badger what's your team so far

solid frigate
gentle badger
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I renamed the Venusaur Sunny

tough idol
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@gentle badger build a team on Showdown. Then you can use Pokepaste to show a full team

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Think I have an example

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Nope I don't lol other than just normal teams or Reg G

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And I can't post images LOL Premier Ball role 😂

lofty tartan
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Raging Bolt should be Fairy but you get the idea.

next stump
lofty tartan
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DerBeste on Koraidon Balance. Water Tera on Wake is interesting but I like Specs Snarl

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May mess around with that

next stump
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It's always a reassuring feeling seeing someone who is good at the game building a very similar team as you

lofty tartan
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Water Tera Rain/Sun Specs Stab Hydro Steam. It's a lot of modifiers.

next stump
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all of these Farigarif teams are basically what I've been on, just with really smart techs

next stump
lofty tartan
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Yeah it's a strong point

next stump
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and a new weakness to high horsepower caly-I

lofty tartan
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Very true. It's really similar so I'm gonna try it. Venu falls off in strength for Reg G

next stump
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yeah :/ without gigantamax it's hard to justify it like you could during SW/SH restricted era

lofty tartan
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Absolutely. The fast sleep is good but fast snarl is better for the meta.

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Iffy on the Flutter set but it pays to play it exactly as they have it because they did it for a reason.

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Flame Charge Koraidon blobthonk

molten oasis
next stump
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252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fire Koraidon Flame Charge (Tera 60 BP Boost) vs. 236 HP / 156+ Def Amoonguss in Sun: 212-252 (96.8 - 115%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Maybe this calc?

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you're OHKOing amoonguss anyway so the speed boost is nice

lofty tartan
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+1 speed he's 280 🤷

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If Jolly 307

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Still doesn't top out over speed boosting Flutter but it's fast

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252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Flame Charge (60 BP) vs. 124 HP / 140 Def Flutter Mane in Sun: 150-177 (102.7 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

foggy lodge
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I hate BO1 CTS so much

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I lost to a Psyduck team because i couldn't do anything lmao

torn parrot
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Me has obtained an XXL size Shiny Rillaboom with the Rare mark

next stump
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awesome catch

brazen bough
next stump
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yeah RIP I don't think a lot of players are hot on it rn

brazen bough
next stump
#

fedecampo, marcofiero

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those were the two big ones

charred saddle
#

damn tofu is also a pro player in dota

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insane

charred saddle
torn parrot
#

If only ): I tried tho

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it’s close enough

#

It’s a 1/171,828 shiny

#

Or a 0.00058% chance

#

Oh wait

#

I didn’t even calculate size

#

Brb

#

I’m gonna properly calculate this

strange fjord
#

got this from da power of sandwiches?

torn parrot
# strange fjord yooo thats dope

Meal power Shiny (1/683)
Meal Power Rare Mark (1/333)
Meal Power chance for XXL (1/2.56)

1/582,243.84 chance to obtain this pokemon

or a 0.00017% chance

cyan smelt
#

oh yeah the wyrdeer i saw on ladder had hypnosis with blunder policy

crimson cliff
#

rate bruxish shiny from 1-10

torn parrot
#

It’s aright

strange fjord
solid frigate
#

Yeet

torn parrot
crimson cliff
#

yea

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just got shiny espurr

strange fjord
#

funni cat

crimson cliff
#

yea

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lowkey good shiny for a weird pokemon

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same for bruxish

strange fjord
#

that cat is a little weird

#

oh yeah, i planned on making a moon team. like lunala, ursaluna bloodmoon, cresselia, umbreon. but lunatone aint in the game 😭

#

by the looks of it, it's probably gonna be a TR team

cyan smelt
#

best not to go hard tr in case of imprison

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or taunt

strange fjord
#

nah, just use roar ursaluna on the imprison Pokemon 😉

cyan smelt
#

smort

#

i want to try wyrdeer now after seeing it on ladder

strange fjord
#

wait, roaring moon could be the last Pokemon

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

lunala can learn both lol

solid frigate
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 792: Lunala
Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Shadow Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

137/113/89/137/107/97

Total

680

solid frigate
#

Its speed stat is perfect for it

strange fjord
#

gonna try some teambuilding around it

cyan smelt
#

lunala is so cool

warped mason
#

Gotta love beating caly shadow users

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

god just watched a team that had muk smeargle, psych up fezandipiti and co-star flamigo

warped mason
# molten oasis ?

I think if you're not running a choice item, you should be on life orb so you can run protect. Otherwise i'd go all out and run tera ice specs. just my 2 cents.

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

muk smeargle has become even more annoying with mons with psych up

gentle badger
#

k, I'm ready to choose torkoal's moves

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maybe Solar Beam to make use of the Sun?

solid frigate
#

Eruption,Protect,Overheat and Solar Beam>

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maybe???

cyan smelt
#

great start, i played someone and they got a close combat crit on zamazenta

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should've gone tera ghost

gentle badger
#

I know it won't matter since Venusaur would be the one to tera, but what would Torkoal's ideal tera be?

rustic mountain
#

gna read that inna bit, wanna try it out b4 reg g officially starts

molten oasis
#

Specs and Tera ice is overkill

warped mason
#

i don't think so, you 2 shot alot of resisted mons

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couldn't give u calcs tho

rustic mountain
#

source: trust me bro

molten oasis
#

This team also plays slower, so av allows it to 1, not get stuck on the field clicking a bad move and 2, I eat hits from caly chi yu flutter miraidon etc WAY better

warped mason
molten oasis
#

Which also allows me to pivot easier

cyan smelt
#

wonder how pressure stall will do in reg g

molten oasis
#

And a defensive Tera lets me sit infront of dengo and Zac

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Which this team otherwise hates

rustic mountain
#

i faced a few eternatus teams last night

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won every time

warped mason
#

i think you won't like the damage though, but up to u

molten oasis
#

I 2hko pretty much every non resist

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It’s still coming off of 170 base and modest

warped mason
#

yea you end up losing out on 2 shots from resists

solid frigate
gentle badger
#

this would have been great if I hadn't caught the normal Tera Torkoal.

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but again Venu would be the main tera user

rustic mountain
#

just get the fire tera shards

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can change a mons tera type

molten oasis
#

I have fire and ground coverage right there to hit my resists

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NOTHING resists all 3 of those unless you’re Tera fire Bronzong

halcyon garnet
#

When you guys climb ladder do you pick one team and grind it out or switch it up

warped mason
#

assuming you'll always be in a position to cover for those types isn't ideal. I'd just go for the extra damage

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like shit can happen and being able to 2 shot resisted switch ins is strong

molten oasis
mighty stump
#

So generally just sticking with that

warped mason
mighty stump
#

And what’s the topic of discussion?

warped mason
#

specs tera ice kyurem white, vs tera fire av kyurem white

mighty stump
#

Specs Tera Ice is trying to replicate what Articuno did but I dislike it a lot

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Because you don’t get Snow Cloak access

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You’re already 2HKOing things generally, Specs feels unnecessary + the flexibility in coverage is better considering how important momentum/loss is right now

warped mason
#

is slow cloak accuracy debuff even that much?

mighty stump
#

Enough to matter

warped mason
#

if you're 2 shotting without tera ice specs, then you're one shotting with it

mighty stump
#

Because the guarantees of a lot of “OHKOs” are already stymied by resists/sash users which end up being the same either way, just one loses a defensive tera + flexibility

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Then also opening yourself up to being walled by Wide Guard is just never good in this format

warped mason
#

yk I wasn't sold till you mentioned wide guard

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thats valid

mighty stump
#

Specs just gains a bonus of KOing a few more things that AV won’t trading off for a few cons I don’t think are worth it

warped mason
#

and 2 shotting resists

mighty stump
#

With coverage you’re already 2shotting resists anyways so thats a moot point

#

“resists”

molten oasis
#

Tofu explained it better than I would have lol

warped mason
#

blizzards hits for 2, so being able to go for blizzard while also threatening a 2 shot has more value, over going for a singular target move

mighty stump
#

Wide Guard
Weather dependant STAB that banks on you not missing out of it
Proper target prioritisation renders that down to preference

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We have Sun

#

You’re also retaining Ice as a weakness in this metagame

molten oasis
#

Sun isn’t good for kyurem

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Ice is always a hinderace I swear

#

Terrible defensive typing

mighty stump
#

I don’t deny specs as an option but survivability and bulk have always been the centerpoint of every metagame throughout VGC history for a reason especially if you have sufficient offensive prowess

molten oasis
#

Gholdengo, all my moves come off of 170 base spA which is gross lol

warped mason
#

i guess you're not on torn for those weather wars to be able to go blizzard more confidently

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so i guess its better for your team

molten oasis
#

If I was running torn then sure LORB or specs

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But I’m not, I find more value out of av on a slower paced team like this

#

I do wish kyurem has calm mind or nasty plot but it’s whatever

mighty stump
#

not everything in this game is ungabunga must go for KOs, I think that’s a mental trap

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Staggering KOs can also be prudent

molten oasis
#

Damage is valuable

#

Oh true

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Allowing free switches can be game losing

warped mason
#

what spread do you guys run for alolan 9 tails btw

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i run max hp max speed, but if theres something better i'd like to know

molten oasis
#

I’m not gonna be sharing many spreads rn as I want to compete soon, and would rather not have the risk of getting screwed by sending that out

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Like, that I plan to use

warped mason
#

oh are you playing a tourney?

molten oasis
#

NAIC

mighty stump
#

Just use Tyo’s spread for A9

molten oasis
#

i would have shared that but i dont have it

#

i also forgot what it does

mighty stump
#

its on his twt

molten oasis
#

oh, ok

warped mason
#

when does reg g ladder start again?

molten oasis
#

first week of may, i forgot the exact date

warped mason
molten oasis
#

@mighty stump im probably dumb but idk where that post is

molten oasis
warped mason
#

oh ok

strange fjord
#

only worlds requires invite

stable wolf
#

Anyone down to battle ou?

#

@wet seal

#

@rough halo or you?

rough halo
#

Please don't ping me.

stable wolf
#

Alright

#

Sorry

stable wolf
mighty stump
#

?

wise sorrel
#

does anyone have any recommendations for a trick room team for a beginner who has absolutely no experience competively? im trying to get started and i have no clue how to start, any help would be greatly appreciated :D

cyan smelt
#

if you're looking to build for reg g then farigiraf and caly-i are solid choices

wise sorrel
cyan smelt
#

you'll usually want one or two tr sweepers, so caly-i and ursaluna is good, then you'll want amoonguss and a couple of faster mons for when tr isn't an option

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you could also use lunala as tr setter

mighty stump
#

onYT

gentle delta
#

But jokes aside, if you have particular Trick Room related questions I'm always happy to help.

#

I even uploaded a video in February thats literally "the basics of playing trick room"

wise sorrel
gentle delta
# wise sorrel ill definetley go check it out! im just very lost on how to start so really anyt...

The bulk of my videos have talked about teams I've used in tournaments, made for friends to use, or teams I've made to try funky ideas. With the common thing being that they're all Trick Room teams.

I go over each of the 6 Pokemon in detail, explaining the choices behind the moves, items and teras. And then show a few games with commentary explaining my line of play.

My third most recent video, Trick Room 101, is the first in a series I started thats instead focused on the fundamentals of playing Trick Room, rather than specific teams. I'll have be having more of those coming, with one in the pipeline about how to handle weather and terrain wars.

mighty stump
#

If you want generalist teams overall, I also have a post on Reg G stuff

gentle delta
#

^ Tofu is also an excellent repository of information, and one of my videos features a collaboration between us.

wise sorrel
#

thank you both! just subbed to progatog

gentle delta
gentle cragBOT
strange fjord
#

not me also subbing so i may also obtain even more vgc information

molten oasis
strange fjord
#

yall know any more vgc content creators that fly under the radar?

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gotta obtain all the knowledge

gentle delta
regal latch
#

I saw someone did an EV spread for H-Arc and had 236 speed EV’s. Why is that?

strange fjord
gentle delta
strange fjord
#

thanks lol

pastel blade
#

Covert cloak miraidon 👀👀👀👀👀

molten oasis
#

avoiding fo and snarl is really nice

#

especially rn

pastel blade
#

Yea first game I put it on he tried to fake out I smacked his zamazenta and he quit🤣

molten oasis
#

kek

dapper crag
#
Move: Knock Off

If the target is holding an item that can be removed from it, ignoring the Sticky Hold Ability, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5. If the user has not fainted, the target loses its held item. This move cannot cause Pokemon with the Sticky Hold Ability to lose their held item or cause a Kyogre, a Groudon, a Giratina, an Arceus, a Genesect, a Silvally, a Zacian, or a Zamazenta to lose their Blue Orb, Red Orb, Griseous Orb, Plate, Drive, Memory, Rusted Sword, or Rusted Shield respectively. Items lost to this move cannot be regained with Recycle or the Harvest Ability.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

65

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

#
Item: Covert Cloak

Holder is not affected by the secondary effect of another Pokemon's attack.

molten oasis
#

i know it doesnt apply to knock off just checking things

sullen hare
#

can anyone help me team build?

strange fjord
#

imagine it did, that'd be crazy

strange fjord
sullen hare
#

both g and f actually

#

mainly f

strange fjord
#

haven't played f in a while. been too focused on g. i can try and help if you'd like

sullen hare
#

yeah that’d be great

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I’ve just been hoping from one team to the other and not sticking to any cause they don’t feel right

azure ether
#

I was about to try the TornOgre team on Tofu's blog but it has 2 sashes

sullen hare
#

there’s an event in a week so I want to make one for that

azure ether
#

which one should keep the sash? and what should the other hold?

sullen hare
#

idk if I want to go full tr or just go tailwind and have a mon with imprison to stop opposing tr

strange fjord
strange fjord
azure ether
#

do the EVs need to be adjusted?

strange fjord
#

if you feel like torn isn't surviving long enough, you can go with a bulkier variant

sullen hare
#

you got any teams? like those I mean?

regal latch
#

Anyone want to talk about team building in general? Trying to build one around H-Arc and Feraligatr.

strange fjord
sullen hare
#

so I’m back

strange fjord
sullen hare
#

the teams I’ve been using are so different fr

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one team was the excradrill, corviknight, Tera flying okidogi and tryanitar plus amoogus salamance

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but doesn’t feel right fsr

strange fjord
#

oh is the tournament OTS? bo3? or bo1?

sullen hare
#

that’s the thing I’m not sure 😭

strange fjord
#

zamn, is it like an official tournament or like a community one?

sullen hare
#

okay

#

it’s best of 3

#

that’s the tourney

regal latch
strange fjord
# sullen hare

found the tourn. according to the organizer

The next Midseason Showdown is ready. -$20 to play, with start time NOON on Sunday April 28. -Swiss rounds will be followed by single elimination playoff rounds. Each round is Best of 3. -Store credit awarded to Top Finishers.
#

bo3

#

likely OTS

sullen hare
strange fjord
#

open team sheets is where you can see the opponents pokemon, moves, items and tera. they can also see yours

#

in a best of 3, you need to win 2 games

sullen hare
#

oh okay I just didn’t know the abbreviation 😭

#

yeah I’m familiar with all those, just not slang or abbreviations

#

so yeah the issue with my teams is, it’s all inconsistent

mighty stump
#

Best to just grab a rental then

strange fjord
#

gotta build a team around bo3 ots ladder.

sullen hare
#

it’s probably both the team and my play but yeah

mighty stump
#

Teambuilding is a separate skill in itself

strange fjord
sullen hare
mighty stump
#

If not; copy

#

Same thing

sullen hare
#

yeah I frequent that choosing teams

mighty stump
#

LabMaus, VGCPastes

#

Pretty freely available

strange fjord
#

but also be aware that some plays might be away of the teams featured here

sullen hare
sullen hare
gentle cragBOT
sullen hare
mighty stump
#

Doesn't matter though, that's the good thing about most Balance teams and you have time to get reps in

#

Which is just the Reg F metagame

sullen hare
#

oh okay

#

what times would you recommend?

mighty stump
#

You said you had a week?

sullen hare
#

yeah it’s on the 28th

strange fjord
#

have you played on pokemon showdown before?

sullen hare
#

I’ve used like wolfeys charlotte team a good amount like I made some thing similar

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but I don’t like that I’m locked into one more cause of the scarf on ursh plus sometimes I just get out speed from the start and since oger and ursh aren’t that bulky, I’m down to 2 Pokémon after 1 turn

sullen hare
strange fjord
#

the bo3 reg f ladder is gonna help in practice since you get the ots there as well

mighty stump
strange fjord
#

plus you can save replays for analysis after the match to reflect what you could've done better

strange fjord
#

yeah

sullen hare
#

so to be clear

#

you can use rental teams for tourneys? 😭

mighty stump
#

Well they have pastes, if not, just build the team

#

according to the paste#

sullen hare
#

no I mean like this

#

if I already have a rental team saved up

#

I can use it yeah?

#

or do I have to make my own?

mighty stump
#

No clue, sorry

sullen hare
#

😭

strange fjord
#

i read the rules and regulations for pokemon vgc to check and it says the team needs to be in a battle team. so no rental

sullen hare
#

oh

#

so I would have to make my own version of it

strange fjord
#

but, i'm sure i can help construct the team fairly quickly. i got the resources to help.

sullen hare
#

well I do have one similar

strange fjord
#

to a point of course

sullen hare
#

yeah I think I have a team made

#

mind battling against me to lmk what I could do differently?

strange fjord
#

don't get a reg f team ready 😭

sullen hare
#

😭

sullen hare
pastel blade
#

Is it weird that rayquaza gave me the most trouble? Not caly or groudon/kyogre lmao

strange fjord
#

i got almost every pokemon game, tons of xp candy and enough money to ev train pokemon with tera shards to spend

sullen hare
#

I would really appreciate the feedback

sullen hare
#

I have to grind hours to ev train a few properly

strange fjord
#

i buy the vitamins. i'm a in-game millionaire

sullen hare
#

how’d you get that much money?

cyan smelt
#

I sometimes send back to swsh to ev train if they're in swsh because discount vitamins

strange fjord
#

i play the game a lot.

cyan smelt
#

Farm the item printer and you'll get lots of stuff to sell in no time

sullen hare
mighty stump
#

Honestly building a team probaly takes me 15 minutes

pastel blade
sullen hare
#

wish I could do that

strange fjord
pastel blade
#

That’s 2 mill right there🤣

sullen hare
#

how even 😭

strange fjord
#

rng

cyan smelt
#

So many ability patches

sullen hare
#

alright then

sullen hare
patent marsh
pastel blade
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patent marsh
#

Now you need to hunt pokemon and abuse item printer

gentle cragBOT
strange fjord
#

just looked on the play pokemon event locator and realized there are plenty of premier events around me. last i checked there was only for tcg GengHeart

sullen hare
#

you should go

#

I’ve never been

strange fjord
#

they're reg f. gonna wait for the reg g ones since i'm practicing for the Los Angeles Regionals.

sullen hare
#

full disclosure I only got my switch like 2 months ago so yeah ( it’s a lite) 😭

strange fjord
#

ah, new to competitive?

sullen hare
#

I’m trying to go play and learn as much as I can

cyan smelt
#

I don't think there are any more regionals in Australia this year and I have trouble finding locals

sullen hare
sullen hare
strange fjord
#

i think the Oceania area is much more difficult to host regionals since they don't have enough staff there so they need to bring people over there and its quite expensive

sullen hare
#

oh is that how it works

cyan smelt
#

They didn't even stream the Australian regionals

strange fjord
#

in the other countries getting pokemon company staff is much easier since they're either in the area or can get there much easier

sullen hare
#

is archaludon worth running?

mighty stump
#

Just find a Rain team

sullen hare
#

yeah I have used a few archaludon rain teams

pastel blade
#

Is iron boulder good?

mighty stump
#

Meh

pastel blade
#

Who’s like the top 3 irons?

#

I’m using bundle and hands rn

cyan smelt
#

Valiant is pretty decent

pastel blade
#

Ahh yea I would like to use valiant but I think she needs focus sash too

#

I have it on bundle

mighty stump
#

Bundle/Hands/Jugulis

cyan smelt
#

Volt switch from miraidon hits hard

pastel blade
#

Jugulis with tailwind might be nice. Only speed control I have is icy wind and I bring hands if they have trick room

#

Should I swap out Lando with jugulis?

cyan smelt
#

You don't want to be too reliant on terrain as indeedee and rilla can switch it

#

But speed control is good

pastel blade
#

Yea I just feel like I’m missing something

cyan smelt
#

Jugulis provides good snarl support too

#

Oh also dragon cheer for miraidon

pastel blade
#

That sounds fun😂

torn parrot
regal latch
#

Amoongus still good?

pastel blade
#

You can also do it for the rare pokeballs

foggy lodge
#

I need it

#

Finally being able to build teams

strange fjord
#

rng

foggy lodge
#

Now i just need the BBPs lol

torn parrot
foggy lodge
#

Someday

cyan smelt
#

i thought heat crash never missed, why did i see it miss in a match i just watched?

vale mural
#

My national dex double team how can I improve my team

pastel blade
#

Idk but nice diancie. Diamond storm is one of the most broken moves I’ve ever seen

charred saddle
#

@thorny beacon insane gameplay

@violet parcel look at this shit rek

#

minh did it all by himself

thorny beacon
charred saddle
#

i shit on it yesterday but dude

#

trying it out with minh, this team is fucking insane

cyan smelt
#

does it translate into english when you rent it?

pastel blade
#

Look at this insanity

charred saddle
torn parrot
molten oasis
#

unga bunga

charred saddle
#

dude

torn parrot
#

god damn tho look at that 30/10

charred saddle
#

yawn is so fucking strong

charred saddle
#

i said that no speed control is so weird

#

but dude yawn is so fucking op in some scenarios

torn parrot
#

i didnt expect a flame orb ursaluna would do so well outside of trick room

molten oasis
cyan smelt
#

being able to put an amoonguss to sleep is huge

molten oasis
#

yuh

torn parrot
#

that is very true

#

i still dunno if i can comprehend it tho
id have to see it in action

charred saddle
#

the thing that surprises me also is the heat rock wins the game

#

like lots of people tried to stall out the last turn of sun

#

and then seeing no protect and theres still sun

#

wake there so fucking scary

cyan smelt
#

i should try this team

torn parrot
cyan smelt
#

i saw a game earlier where someone had both scald and hydro steam on wake to hit hard in sun and rain

charred saddle
#

hydro steam in rain is still boosted

#

hydro steam in rain and sun is no difference actually

#

its just that in sun u dont get the boost

#

but like in this case, its a speed boosted wake so it doesnt really matter damage wise

dapper crag
#
Move: Hydro Steam

If the current weather is Sunny Day and the user is not holding Utility Umbrella, this move's damage is multiplied by 1.5 instead of halved for being Water type.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

charred saddle
#

yeah, 1.5 in rain, 1.5 in sun

torn parrot
#

what a cool unique team

#

i like

charred saddle
#

with how im seeing speed boosted does this much, i dont think spA boosted wake is needed

#

dude i fell in love with this team

#

theres this one game where we played against top 32 and we just yawn cycled and bonked every single shit

#

we won by a landslide and they disconnected

#

3-1 mon

cyan smelt
#

is it just me or is terapagos really good with comfey support

timber falcon
#

I mean, I came here yesterday bawling about that PikaLmao

#

It is really good with comfey I agree

cyan smelt
#

behind screens it's a menace

timber falcon
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Fr, killing pagos isn’t easy with passive healing, screens, and an defensive ability

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And non passive healing

cyan smelt
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and a spread move with zero drawbacks

timber falcon
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Btw floral healing in grassy terrain is 2/3

molten oasis
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Wha

timber falcon
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Hello

molten oasis
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Hi

willow vault
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Hallo

torn parrot
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actually??

molten oasis
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Im fishing in a pve shooter

torn parrot
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wait i meant

torn parrot
cyan smelt
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yep

timber falcon
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Mhm

torn parrot
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wild mechanic

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guess comfey and rillaboom are best friends

cyan smelt
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synthesis heals more in sun too

molten oasis
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What are y’all up to

dapper crag
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Move: Floral Healing

The target restores 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded half up. If the terrain is Grassy Terrain, the target instead restores 2/3 of its maximum HP, rounded half down.

Type

Fairy

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

molten oasis
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Also, disgusting

willow vault
molten oasis
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Gp?

willow vault
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Grand Prix

molten oasis
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Ah, how was that

willow vault
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It was pretty good, lance stroll forgot how to drive and made it very funny

molten oasis
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idk who that is lmao

timber falcon
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How is entei looking this reg?

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 244: Entei
Type

Fire

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/115/85/90/75/100

Total

580

timber falcon
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I feel like it makes a nice AV fire core

dull ibex
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Hello

willow vault
timber falcon
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hello

cyan smelt
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hello

willow vault
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How we all doing?

timber falcon
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doing great thanks, what about u?

cyan smelt
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i'm watching some games and terapagos slays lol

willow vault
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It’s pretty damn good

timber falcon
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quick question. whats a better defensive tera for shifu? steel or grassSatoshiuHmm

timber falcon
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rapid strike

willow vault
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I would lean towards grass for the added benefit of ignoring amoongus

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Both are good choices though

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Does keep your weakness to flying however

timber falcon
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oh yeah i do like ignoring moongus for the team im making though, ill go with grass

timber falcon
willow vault
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Cool

cyan smelt
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is it just me or is ghost tera incin becoming more common

timber falcon
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just had a game against it

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probs to stop faster fake outs and gain fighting immunity whilt being neutarl to its previous weaknesses

cyan smelt
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maybe it's because of tera fighting caly-s

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and koraidon

autumn vault
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True

cyan smelt
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oh and urshifu

autumn vault
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Rapid strike will almost always use surging strikes into incineroar

cyan smelt
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being neutral is better than se

autumn vault
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true

cyan smelt
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what do you guys think about iron treads?

charred saddle
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ghost tera incin has been a thing and always around since reg F

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to deny FO and fighting like CC shifu and neutral to surging

thorny beacon
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I only changed to my own mons when I was nearing ultra ball to see if I could get into master for a chance at the ribbons

polar canyon
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Does quick guard block feint for being priority?

dapper crag
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Move: Feint

If this move is successful, it breaks through the target's Baneful Bunker, Detect, King's Shield, Protect, or Spiky Shield for this turn, allowing other Pokemon to attack the target normally. If the target's side is protected by Crafty Shield, Mat Block, Quick Guard, or Wide Guard, that protection is also broken for this turn and other Pokemon may attack the target's side normally.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

30

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

2

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

polar canyon
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Funny

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I also just realized it's not the same as feint attack

fluid fiber
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Thought it'd be fun to reminisce a bit. Across Reg A to now these are all the mons I've used in a real team I built

fluid fiber
mighty stump
polar canyon
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You know what might be fun about legends za having megas

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It probably doesn't have abilities

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So it might be hard to tell which new ones are broken until they're in gen 10

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If there's new ones

timber falcon
willow vault
timber falcon
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caly is much harder to use than u think poliwhirlkek

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been working on this for days

willow vault
timber falcon
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lul

willow vault
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But in all seriousness, really good team

vapid grotto
timber falcon
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i have and i dont think i need them that much, though now im looking at my gorudon MU

willow vault
vapid grotto
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Im tryna cook a team with Pawmot Pray

willow vault
vapid grotto
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Its just too cute ;-; plus maybe I could do something with a hyper aggro restricted

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kill it off then bring it back with rev bless

willow vault
vapid grotto
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scarf mot

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SCrunWTF theyd have to catch him first

willow vault
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Then you just never get to use an attack, you can’t live a hit

vapid grotto
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He's the team cheerleader he just needs to look good

willow vault
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Also doesn’t revival blessing only bring the Pokémon who previously fainted to half health? Isn’t that a bit of a problem

vapid grotto
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its half hp but you choose the mon

willow vault
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Yeah, but it’s now far more vulnerable to being knocked out

timber falcon
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what are evs for hyper voice farig?

vapid grotto
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Smug who says they'd have any survivablitiy anyways half hp would be the same as full hp

willow vault
willow vault
vapid grotto
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I mean I havent really picked who would be the restricted

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I just wanna use Pawmot cause he's a lil guy

mighty stump
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?