#competitive_discussion
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why do i always lose speed ties
https://pokepast.es/1beda15b6d87efb0 What is a good 6th member? It is a whale team
I still think a new Pokemon Battle Revolution where all mechanics could be toggled would be amazing
no matter what my caly-s is slower than others
Scarf it
i lose protect
Then lose the speed ties 
And tera ghost to murder every single one
Boom monster created
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amoongus or farig
https://pokepast.es/0b06fd43f7bcbe7d Done, any changes
why fire moongus
Are you running max speed Timid
yes
Oh well
and those ties still hate me
Calyrex-Ice rider
https://pokepast.es/fca65dc65e753ede Now what?
Thoughts on this? https://pokepast.es/0f9122e46da48c31
I think you don't want room service on Armarouge
Power Herb + Meteor Beam is best on this team
I'll try that
anyone wanna multi battle?
just lost to another fricking speed tie
WHY CANT I OUTSPEED
heck im even calcing to see if theyre running scarf, and that man was in fact NOT scarfed but using specs
im generally pissed
Yes
They are a coin flip and you have shit luck when it comes to a coin flip

Fake Out + Psychic Terrain?
Lol, then find a new consideration
does scarf shifu OHKO caly-s?
Probably not
Hmm
Tera water does
Oh that’s nice to know
Assuming no bulk
Oh
252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 180-216 (102.8 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Hmm ok so that can work
252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 168-204 (96 - 116.5%) -- approx. 93.8% chance to OHKO
That’s still an Ohko to me
Also I think the chances are skewed because it’s a multi hit.
That is.....
Basically an OHKO
Yes i know
A basically 6.2-6.3% chance
Basically 1/16 chance to not OHKO
That is not a great gamble lmao
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I keep running into minimize comps with smeargle on the SV ladder. Nothing is more annoying people who play those strats
Ah yes, minimize spam. Great fun
1 heat crash, 1 sacred sword yaayyy
I bought some sauce. It’s gonna be really nice with some spaghet

ming
emma
haaaai
That’s fine people always start of that way
i caaant go to place ur normally in :<
I'm almost never in the raid channel anyway, only really come around for event raids in the dedicated channel
been busy with uni final year
fockin, many group assignments
it's tough but at the same time it's pretty good
very happy with the mates i got
on break atm but it's only 1 week, get thrown back into the warzone next week
as soon as we get back, we work with a client to design an ad campaign of some sort for them, holding a meeting to dicuss and shit
so there's that
woa lot’s happening
yeah, but it's good to take my mind off it for now 
played vgc for the first time today so hence why i got reeled in here 
and howd that go :3
bububaba gave me cybertron's worlds team so we jumped straight into showdown and it was a lot of info to take in 
played about 19 games
if i know him as well as i think i do, he’s gonna stay that way
went uh 11-8 but a lot of help
then this green guy wanted me to play on cart so i grabbed wolfey's team and got treated to seeing hammer arm tornadus and endeavour sentret
so that was very funny 
I'm still bad 
Nah man you're goated in my eyes, I only just started today so everyone else is great 
Tho i like discussing competitive teams
Yea, kyogre ain’t gonna like my Kyurem 
dude no way Kermit the Frog watched you play??
Just ran into this guy running hisuian lilligant on koraidon, he gave koraidon chlorophyl 💀
Yuh, fast sleep powder
thas alot
felt fast though on showdown so at the time it felt like a normal amount of games
well, paying for NAIC, is gonna suck
that is all of my paychecks for the next month
but it’s worth it
hammer arm torn and endeavour sentret-
except you almost threw the sentret game 
It just really sucks due to like location
It would probably be a little cheaper if it wasn't in a spot in Louisiana that tourists visit often
he’s 5-0 on cart so that’s good :0
Dude
It’s $100 a night
CHEAPEST from what I found
I don’t get to spend money for the next month lmao
:0
It’s worth it
Good Luck
Hello! Is this the right place to ask for vgc help?
And food
Yes
Hello! I've played a few games during the SWSH pre-DLC era and was able to reach Master Ball rank for the rewards. Now it's the first time I'm doing this in SV. After getting close to 33% wr in 25 games, I've won the past 6 games using this team, but its ofensive coverage is not that good. The strategy works around enabling the genie duo so they can do the work through bleakwind and sandsear storms (100% in the rain). This also helps Urshifu deal tons of damage. Since tailwind is usually on the field, Flutter Mane's nature is modest to get the 30% spa bonus. Amoonguss is there to redirect + defensive coverage when switching mons.
As I said, its coverage is not the best. I've had some problems when playing against a Zapdos. The only superefective move was ice beam from the Politoed (which was built as a defensive support).
Any tips you can give me to improve this team?
What regulation are you playing in?
Ranked battles in reg F
Pokepaste?
Also sludge bomb on amoonguss is pretty bad, i would reccomend to replace it for pollen puff to be more supportive and get an offensive move
I feel like rain dance on Torn is better than having the Politoad
Also Damp Rock is very bad
coughs in Wolfe winning with sludge bomb
It depends, but pollen puff looks better here
theres hidden lore to this win
Who could be a good replacement for Politoed? Raging Bolt or Incineroar?
World champ difference
Raging gets thunder which in rain benefits you - but Incin is always good
nah neil thought he had lost already and decided tera stellar looked cooler than poison LOL
So is Rilla
Bro ok
Flight, are so cheap, which is so hype
ROUND TRIP are like at most $400, which is great
Right now at least
The hotel is what’s gonna suck me dry
My face when I have to pay rent so I can't go to a tourney for a few months 
Lmfao
bnb with people
I don’t know people
theres always people lookin for rooms for events
Ok well ig the question is where do I look
u actin like they bad people
I’m joking sorry, I’m not active on Twitter lol idk how people are
I’ve heard bad things that’s all
I will go there, if no luck I will be broke as shit
Anyone else planning on going to NAIC?
With Rilla I'd have no coverage against flying. I'm gonna try the raging bolt once I get home
That one server me and you are in always has people looking to BnB
Or split hotel costs
Oh, gtk
They do that for like
EVERY event
Good, cuz i don’t want to pay $500+ for hotel fees lol
Good ol New Orleans shit
The flights aren’t that bad at least
The other thing
Is deciding what I’m bringing
So like, once I get signed up and I’m done with finals
It’s go time lol
I mean
I don't know anyone complaining about plane prices, unless it's like Hawaii or somewhere REALLY busting with tourism
I thought plane tickets were like, stupid expensive but I think I’m just remembering costs from Japan
Like a few tourists might visit New Orleans, but not many especially considering the time of year
Now if the competition was around Mardi Gras, you'd be fucked
Lmao
I plan to buy my plane ticket next week
And then I’m just gonna try to avoid spending
Too much
Gonna buy both for to and back?
Round trip flights
👌
Highest I saw was $700 and the average was like $300ish
So I should be fine for flights
The only time I flew, we raised money, but that was taken care of by a tour thing we were going thru so
Idk how that works tbh
None of them are really over hyped, but if I had to choose
yes I will be there
Hype
downtown hotels are gonna be a bitch though, but they did say that there will be some discounts given with certain partner hotels
at least on their info portal it said that
Yea
Hopefully I can get into one quickly
Cuz finding something farther out means more money for in city transportation
And, money for hotels
Eeeee oooo aaaa
Sadly it’s defintely koraidon
Poor guy
I was part of the hype train
i want to but my parents will deny me go there cuz its a different country
No
and i don't have a job yet
I have a job but just got my house so funds are going into that for now 
Hoping to attend an event soon though
Rn I have like a 60% win rate too so I have to bolster up that number before I want to do anything big
Dragon/Flying
Intimidate, Moxie (Hidden)
95/135/80/110/80/100
600
Salamence-Mega
Depends on what you need for the team
Dragon/Psychic
Levitate
80/80/90/110/130/110
600
Latias-Mega
latis imo
checks lando nicely
It's for a weird tournament, not a reg F or G tournament
I used Latias because of the faster tailwind, but with Salamence i can pivot intimidates
Nah
People just probably haven't fully brought it out yet
Tryna figure out how to go between like
Either full Quark Drive teams or HO stuff
Probably could be used another way, but that's essentially basic Miraidon stuff
Meanwhile with Koraidon, I still say Groudon better as a general sun setter unless you want a touch more offense
And if you say Terapagos is overhyped rn, then you're just coping I'm sorry
I just put it there because it was hyped a lot here
Not as much as miraidon, but you get what i am trying to say
Nah the hype is definitely there with Miraidon
Now i wonder why it has a vote
I wouldn't say it's over
I thought the cyclizar ancestor/descendant would be the only ones voted and not the turtle
Tbh I don't even think Koraidon is overhyped
Just if I had to choose
I didn't see much hype for Koraidon
Cuz people wanted Groudon lol
People were like "Tera fire sun is very strong, but flutter is a huge problem and groudon is not weak to it is worse than groudon" type of thing
Atleast what i know, it might have more than that
My exact thoughts
I reckon I said that statement a million times
Personally if you are so worried about flutter with Koraidon then use Scarf or Tailwind, ez as that
It is quite simple
Outspeed the outspeeder
I’m not just my thoughts going into the reg
Like Koraidon has to compete with Groudon rn in terms of sun setting
And unless you want more offensive sun setter, I say Groudon is better
Groudon is the one OLD Mon that is still great
It got even more viable in fact
But I won't say Koraidon is God awful
I agree, Koraidon is very hyper offensive compared to groudon, but i wouldn't say it is the only old mon that is still great
We have Kyurem-W who does great in snow and Rayquaza who is very good in Tofu's eyes
And also Kyogre who although it is worse is still great
I think I also said I’d rather have Groudon since fairy + Ground is so good offensively plus both stab attacks that hit multiple targets
Only drawback is Wide Guard
Yeah true
And also removing weather
Oh I meant old as in oldest that was relevant at some point
Kyogre has more struggles now
And Rayquaza ain't doing so good either
I didn't say Ray is incredible, it is good but not THAT good
Yeah I was just clarifying what I meant
yeah ik
I mean Xerndon was really good in previous generations, without xerneas it will just use the Cloth with the fairy type
Flutter mane
I will say this is actually a little based
Archaludon crazy though
I didn't call it great or amazing, it is a good combo
Arch resists grass and electric
Like it was already good in rain before so
Kyogre has a better Mu into ground which Archaludon does not like
Then again, Archaludon is actually not as bad into Groudon
You forget that in terms of bulk physically, Archaludon ain't lackin
Steel/Dragon
Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)
90/105/130/125/65/85
600

I didn't forget
It is physically bulky, Kyogre is a specially bulky mon
Man these 2 have synergy
It's SpDef is the only problem
But that's honestly like
Rough
Like the meta has a good mix of spatkers and physical rn imo
Why we use assault vest
And with the items they run, it's harder cuz with a team, you want everything
Snarl
Wisp
Knock Off
Wide Guard
Yet it's hard to do so lol
At least that's what it feels like to me rn
Might want to replace Wisp for intimidate in case of Cybertron sees it (its a joke dont take it seriously)
What’s the issue rn
https://pokepast.es/7ed5f9b483da9d0a I have this Kyogre team myself actually
Planning to test it tomorrow because of the bottom image
That is the time in my country
Why not defensive Tera on Archa
offense cause why not
Besides all my archaludons use offensive teras
And they kick but with them
Flying to resist ground and fighting is also very valuable as a defensive tera
And weak to 2 types that you previously resisted
Ice is dealt with thx to steel STAB
Ok but getting weak to caly s isn’t a good idea
Wait why isn't it used?
How does it make itself weaker to it?
Sorry, ice
Also surprised to not see flying
Flying has a ground immunity, a fighting resist, deals with fighting types with tera flying blast (pls dont use), weak to 2 types that Arch resisted, Ice dealt with by steel STAB
Honestly why not tera flying?
whats this?
Labmaus
which mon?
Archaludon
yeah then no flying is suprising
Very
Only drawback is being weak to miraidon and calyrex ice
Calyrex ice is dealt with by stamina and steel STAB
which arent the best drawbacks
But imo worth it to get nearly perfect synergy
Yo guys I need some advice I hate running trick room teams and I'm having problems.with them with the team I'm running. Is it worth it putting trick room on flutter mane to reverse it ? Or how do people deal with trick room besides stalling
Probably because they want to buff it's defense to tank whatever attack it throws at flutter
2HKOd and a win with 4-2
Amoonguss has so many good moves its hard to put taunt on him. What would you recommend replacing? I'm using spore/sludge bomb/protect/rage powder
Or were those separate thoughts lol. Taunt and pokemon like amoonguss
i mean, just taunt the moongus no? what makes it difficult?
Oh you meant taunt theirs to stop trick room
yay for magic bounce
what team are you using @halcyon garnet ? it's really subjective with your team as to how to handle trick room

sus amogus


Weird looking cat

Amoonguss being a new trans icon is funny
Now I have some newfound respect for it
The ally shroom
I am back 
No mans sky player
If that was to me, I haven't played since release. I just had a 'pain' and general break
love seeing a misty terrain howl ninetails
For 5 turns, the terrain becomes Misty Terrain. During the effect, the power of Dragon-type attacks used against grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 0.5 and grounded Pokemon cannot be inflicted with a non-volatile status condition nor confusion. Grounded Pokemon can become affected by Yawn but cannot fall asleep from its effect. Camouflage transforms the user into a Fairy type, Nature Power becomes Moonblast, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to lower Special Attack by 1 stage. Fails if the current terrain is Misty Terrain.
Fairy
Status
0
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10 (16)
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Does not make contact.
pretty unique
Less than 2 weeks to Reg G all the unique shit gonna come out now
suprise factor is at large
howl a9 is wild
not only that, i tried stop veil with rain dance and that mf had skill swap sabelye
he perfectly stopped my EVERY move
i cant even be mad lol that was impressive
Oh damn it's like 20x better than release rn
I still did run out of things to do
But only after 120ish hours
I assumed you were a player bc everyone in the discord has the main galaxy and console in their usernames
Galaxy euclid and ps4 version
Competitive pokemon discussion chat at its finest
Anyways I think I'll try dusk mane again
Idk how I didn't use urshifu last time I tried it
It can deal with incin and lando
Excuse me what
grass monkey strong
love how the new team cybertron featured feels
back to top 1k 
Hell yeah nice climb

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2107380505-8pbxzmk4f31vx7lgvb93d69h2vm5zprpw finally saw someone uses Giratina
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idk some1 mentioned they ran into it, i had to double check it even got it


kinda wanna say theyre smart but like theres nothing threatening the mushroom
oh btw does ludon wall terapagos?
id have to watch the replay but its prolly jus a bad play
since i was thinking body press is like annoying
archaludon?
yep
i mean depends on the set, i think a lot are running earth power
nd if u tera ur just toast to starstorm
No i just froze the Amogus
that whole replay is a mess
starstorm ep and meteor
but blitzing to unthaw is objectively just bad in 99.9% use cases
i dont need to watch to know that
they tera'd into water so yeah
Alola Ninetales blizzard freeze
switch A9 to torn and they self blitz to amoonguss clef protect
and the spore into clef 
yea i agree w/ emma that match sounds like a mess
itll be insane if they spore into a9 tho
thats how it be sometimes tho
i mean its still cool tech and i wouldnt thought about it
i even forgot that u thaw from fire actually
and ya know whats funny iss that i sacrifce A9 and let Torn jump in for Tailwind
not every fire move unthaws
oh?
just certain ones
da fauck
only flare blitz and some others
u thought itd make sense?

I'm fine with A9 being in my team Having Aurora Veil instead of Grimmsnarl spam both screens is way better plus Snow Boosted A9
no it does not-
If you don't Tera,Earth Power,
If you tera that rresist Ground,Starstorm.
And i mean actual Stellar Tera Starstorm
already been answered here

but did not anserw the tera part-
anyways
i did
this
its all good haha
rn i have to position A9 better
yea
and like ur moveset is blizzard and veil which i dont really like
gta just be mindful of those options
once u lost the weather u lose ur damage source of ice
but its still a good choice nonetheless not saying its bad
u think freeze dry too? its not like ur really gna want to click that most times
its just a different gameplay then grimm
i can ran Freeze Dry for any Lando or Ogerpon Shenangins
if u lose weather/veil option a9 is kinda jus dead weight anyway barring specific matchups
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huh
Jam sgini bang
malah bubur ayam adanya pagi anjg
ur white washed
ill white wash your mom
rude
i miss rotom wash
Tofu, I never got your thought on that kyurem team
Idk last I remember I see nothing wrong with it

we miss the washing mashine
Ok then, sounds like I don’t need to do anything to it, yet
does rotom mow actually gwt a time to shine?
why
time for you to rotom mow to bed :<
rotom heat and wash are generally good in regional dex formats
Are they?
Wash and Oven are most used, idk if mow is used
ye ye heat and wash mb
mow i think was used in 2015 wc finals
i think jeudy had it? so wait was that 2014
wait does Frost and Mow get plays ever?

Why is that?
huh really?
frost i think was used as a meme team in early sv but otherwise no
nd i think mow had fringe use case back in 2014/2015
oh yeye
huh
I used Mow in SwSh
talking a bout fringe theres still fridge rotom 
am i gonna buy another plush because i am using Dialga-
whats confusing
wait with what moveset-
Wisp/Leaf Storm/V-Switch/Protect
Ah make sense
i used wash a handful of times in swsh it was fun
oh the mow rotom still gets wisp?
also if you want to look at the team anyways tofu, https://pokebin.com/e9bce85b2a58ad32 dengo has metal coat
i rhougth like only heat gets it

Ikan + Telor pitan dong bang
cina palsu
they all get it afaik
I found the best Caly-S set oml

csr w/ tera jus feels unfair at times
time to experiment a bit of Origin Dialga
I don't even need to Tera
Calyrex-Shadow @ Life Orb
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Astral Barrage
- Psyshock
- Encore
- Protect
You're welcome
yoink
the fuck
thanks
Psyshock is just superior as Psychic STAB
why the fuck does caly gets weird moves like encore
Me when:
its technically 2 moveset combined
why
embrace its brokeness
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2107394350-6c8pgyg5uvcnpsixr1zznz28ujrs41ipw AV Boom getting OHKO'd
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oh righth psyshock does dmg to def
thats annoying damn
going AV and get ohkoed by psyshock
OHKOs Flutter, bypasses AV/CM
wait Dialga can resist Caly Ice right?
cough HH cough
lmao
wait i forgot-
Im sure you can actually run Chien-Pao + Caly-S together
the b2b csr kos 
lmao
Also in case anyone wondered why I kept clicking Dragon Energy: Pelipper was on 1 and I wanted to pressure that slot without missing
yea feel that
4.8 BP Dragon Energy btw

Pelipper:Well shi-
Gets bombarded by a Pencil Powered Dragon energy
https://pokepast.es/ed133617c6529bc7 in-case anyone wants to have fun, I yoinked Justin Carris' most recent team
It's pretty good/oppressive
H2O cause it's Rain + HO
welp both of my restricted gets Death sentenced by Koraidon-

Dialga and Terapagos:Exists
Koraidon:Ooooo 2x


Tera Shell:
that w/ tofus spread 
heatran resurgence? 
grass i assume?
Flash Fire + Grass
Tera Grass Heatran yea-
the return of the homie
I wouldn't discount Ceruledge either
i would
Just casue BB in Sun does decently + Shadow Sneak access for Flutter Manes
I'm nto saying its gonna be amazing but people can use it
fair
flashfire
yeah i consider that
force the oger tera 
oh mold ye
Mold breaker
Mold Breaker
ye ye
Oger for you even.
they realized lmao chill
yes mold
Weak armor weakness policy and aqua jet
slash j
ikik lol
not just u haha but like whew the cavalry was in full affect
I mean I barely remember fire oger has mold.
oh no, anyways
the most shittiest shit ive ever encountered and made me dreamt of that shit is
surging strike into weakness policy weak armour endure armarouge
its Handy in some occasions
Handy in a lot of situations.
+6 speed +2 spA and just casually swtich in indeedee spam stuff is fucking annoying
Probably kills without weak armor
And armarouge is supposed to survive surging strikes when after each of the hits its defense drops?
Oh
its endure
lol
my friend made this for me
i think its made with a guy on twitter's art who makes little pokemon thumbnails
Oh
Cube-Ori
That looks sick
oh thats nice holy crap
That's really cute
Illustrator🇯🇵/▼Instagram→(https://t.co/83DeYxV6Io)▼ご連絡はDMまたは7cube.ori@gmail.com
i only just Photoshop my stuff
ohh yeah i think that's him
oo
That’s so dope.
Speaking of graphics
I wish I had the budget to pay artists for cool art for fun
Updated the blog aesthetic with a self-made banner as well:
That's a really cool style
Gyarados off Kanagawa.
Very epic.
I was gonna contact them to do my blogsite wallpaper cause I thought a version of their Magikarp would look very nicely
That’s dope.
Cute
Then I came across Gyarados off Kanagawa and say the texture of the art and it scratched my brain
Fun story
was watching cybertron, and he mentioned sub urshifu. is that even a thing?
like dropping prio?
How would you go about a dusk mane team?
Probably for TClap
hm
WP TR or CA setup, still TR
i am still thinking of Which Prankster Tailwind should i bring,Torn or Whim
I was considering dd ca setup
Rest of team?
Slow sd ca does sound good tho
Urshifu and rain dance torn that help cover for fire weakness and incin/lando
It sounds extra
Does this sound good?
and yes Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind Dialga team-
torn
Guh huh
You could put tr on dialga if you really want to
back to V1 Team i go then
flying coverage is nice and doesnt overlap with the fairy tera and flutter
Yeah tr dialga incase farig don’t work out
Protect Saved my ass couple of times lol but sure
Finally cut down my teamlist lol
Just saying, this games about to be like, Rilla/Incin/Urshi still +3
So it's not too bad
If I run sash on torn should I still invest in bulk?
yeah rilla incin urshi feels so strong
I like the potential Encore control from Whim.
i dont think so
That's what I did
for Surging?
Yep
thats very niche no?
Is it
Most of the time even for Surging I wouldn't but in this scenario
So many 
No Mirai team? Or not a fan
man I havent play in months and I need to re-understand everything again lol so sad
I think Miraidon is kinda mid
my favorite 
Real
cool

Don't get me wrong, you still have to respect it heavily
yea
Is it actually?
btw tree, cybertron just featured his own team that had steel tera shifu too 
yep i saw
tried it, feels so insanely good that i can just stay on field and bonk mons
It's pretty good in a world without rillaboom
I personally think everyone fell into that synergy-trap
Not as good as everyone thinks
That you have to use Future Paradoxes with it
Now do Tera-Grass and ignore Rage Powder
its a great team, a lot of great synergy/pivoting options but also offensive pressure wen u need it
i ran that like most of last month
yea
It did feel really bad when the beads of ruin boosted draco meteor missed the lando t and it used earthquake
crazy calc holy
The user recovers 3/4 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.
Fairy
Special
50
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Cannot be selected under Heal Block.
I like 4 hp 20 spdef
60 BP boost? what
should i ran BM ursa or regular ursa
cybertron had 68hp 4 def 92 spdef on shifu
idk depends on the team
so much bulk compared to standard ones
I think it depends but you can't have both ca and flame orb
i shown the team already
cough
yea i have some bulk on mine too not quite the same tho
If you run BM, no point in Telepathy Dialgo O
ok fair-

Regular Ursa feels better against CM users
Half PLA half gen 9 team moment lets go lol
I wanna think about intimidate but it does have stab effective moves vs incin
i obviously missed it 
id want to use my Grass slot for something else when Farig exists
mans wants me to backscroll like 10min up
tsareena works quite similar to fari
But no reason it wouldn't, techinically
but fari is bulkier and has more support util moves
i agree w. tofu
oh tsareena is grass?
yea?
You can also use indeedee for prio control and synergy with expanding force
ok, in that case how is throat spray farig? or would bulky HH be better
watd u think it was
thought it was ice since they usually spam triple axel
Dialga Origin,Farigaraf,Ursaluna,Ogerpon Wellspring,Flutter Mane,Tornadus/Whimsicott
i watched like gen 8 them using triple axel 
have u even seen the mon
never, only heard about the ability
prolly regular ursaluna to give u some good physical damage/coverage
i mean watched ye but not that like into it
classic ice type
The shiny one maybe you could think kinda looks ice
If you squint hard enough
-calc 120x0.75
Result: 90.000000
yeah it kinda looks like Grass Ice
tofu, do u still have that rly bulky rilla set? i lost it
tofu calcs--->heat spreads---> me yoinking those spreads
Honestly someone should make a document to put all the cool spreads made or mentioned by people here
no im in a set lmaoo

Wearing a leaf, also has Leaf Guard ability lol 😆
yes typical ice type stuff
i back this, i need my sets
queenly majesty
and like watching gen 8 seeing triple axel and getting SE ohkoes by incin
i go "thats ice"

And you never looked at the pokemon?
honestly if farigarif didnt exist tsareena would prolly see more useage
Bruxish would see usage fr trust me
never checked it out. didnt play gen 8
Me running Tera Ice Triple Axel Meowscarada:
Ooh I have Premier Ball role now
kept rank but also newb
i only started vgc late reg E 
why....
all i know is fari
idk what i am thinking but that does not matter cuz Bolt replaced it
Most fabulous priority control
Worst one by far too
Underrated
Nah I don't hate how it looks but it does suck ass in game
Hey it has stab strong jaw psychic fangs
i like the Vibrant Colours tho
Surely an excuse to use it
Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 28 Def / 172 SpD / 44 Spe
Impish Nature
- Fake Out
- Grassy Glide
- Wood Hammer
- U-turn
Thank you goatfu
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
I wonder if anyone out there uses bruxish to stop priority
I’ve seen it
Water/Psychic
Dazzling, Strong Jaw, Wonder Skin (Hidden)
68/105/70/70/70/92
475
Non-damaging moves that check accuracy have their accuracy changed to 50% when used against this Pokemon. This effect comes before other effects that modify accuracy.
I just hit my head and got a bump like in cartoons
Unrelated but it happened right now and I wanna mention it
ok that is gonna troll Amoonguss
Ouch
Not rlly
Ouch then?
i done that last week i feel you
i got bonked on the road sign
Let's make a bruxish team
Bruxish balance
Brulance
why do i feel like it gonna work cuz dracovish is not in SV
Incin must be in the side Ofc it’s mandatory
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2107412276-r544siueoo88jqbg7qy5e7qd84rdhbhpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2107413665-c85y9t01eivgw7sf14ypb2lmnayur7opw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2107414629-92j4h213vvd7xlx90szcnop7dobod69pw
Just started using this alt for Reg G already being matched against 1400s lol
Im surprised that Incin lived tbh
Incin and Rilla for support?
10-3 in sets rn
Regidrago ?
lul
Water/Psychic
Dazzling, Strong Jaw, Wonder Skin (Hidden)
68/105/70/70/70/92
475
What about it
Haven’t seen it in a while
Thought wide guard spams would be too much nowadays
It gets other moves
goldendragon but instead of ghold it's dialga origin
even like dragon fang dragon pulse drago hits so hard
doesnt have to be energy spm
Ik but it mostly wants dragon energy sweeps right
Draco meteor hits like 20 trucks at once too
That's one of the tools
Dialga Mentioned? kek
252 SpA Dragon Fang Dragon's Maw Regidrago Helping Hand Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 193-228 (95.5 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
That man was running max max omlg
Lul
well not like it mattered
Imagine if it just missed
Can that Incin tank a meteor beam though, from lunala
If its max spdef? probably
+1 252+ SpA Lunala Meteor Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 180-212 (89.1 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
Hmm interesting
If it can tank helping hand dragon fang dragons maw draco meteor I doubt it dies to non stab meteor beam
Might have to check out max max Incin at some point
Oh
non stab +1
Oh this is max spatck too
That's so many multipliers tho
I ran near max spdef AV Incin just to ruin people's day
Huge
LOL
I also have half consideration to run fast incin to knock off PHerb before Lunala can fire it
wait how much is AV Max Sp Def-
+1 252+ SpA Lunala Meteor Beam vs. 236 HP / 244+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 122-144 (61 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
holy fu-
Tera rock lunala with helping hand
I mean
Just as seen in real games
252 SpA Life Orb Tera-Fighting Calyrex-Shadow Rider Helping Hand Tera Blast vs. 236 HP / 244+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 166-198 (83 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I see it alllll the time
Lunala just have a Huge Rock on his Face

Does it have snarl or anything for tera fighting caly after it takes that hit
if its neutral nature non-0 speed
not really
But it's nice to know you won't die
save it for later
Real
Wtf is that calc
One more fake out and intimidate
You can just tera ghost and take 0%
Just pretend you won't get hit by astral barrage
Imagine if showdown ever gets taken down
What I've heard is that it's in "beta" phase so it won't get taken down or something
Eternal beta
They won't take it down because there'd be a huge backlash from the community
That too
There's formats on there that don't exist on cart
The smogon official ones like ou are meant to be replicatable in game im pretty sure
Isn't that one of their excuses to remove sleep clause and just ban sleep moves?
Oh god no
some wont be able to replicate on cart. nat dex for one. and the CAP ones too
OU can go up to over 50+ turns at a high level
idk why they do that-
You'll run out of time before actually getting to play
There's a reason why theres no one is asking to play 6v6 OU Singles on cart unless you're a casual
Even without the timer you'd dc before it ends because it's on the switch
Or that
And like ofc because you can build a pokemon in 2 minutes on showdown and 2 hours in game
If you do it really fast
And it's not a legendary
Idk how they still haven't come up with a custom rental team editor
Other than having comp be a reason for people to buy dlc and older games
You want terapagos and calyrex?
That's 120 dollars on top of the base sv game
yeah.... thats one of the problems on DLC
Good luck getting someone to trade you calyrex
which is Impossible cuz right now its so good
Let alone a 0 speed one if you want to run ice
You will not find a fair trade for that one
Calyrex is good but reload a save for a 0Ivs Is just torture
Rant over I'm tired of complaining to the void
F
https://pokepast.es/576c2b0b4b3f9aee
This is what I got going
I'm willing to change necrozmas set
And all the other sets I just don't have yet
How bout lando
Yes
I think I have to look at the kyogre and caly shadow matchups
Urshifu water has always been known to dislike fighting amoonguss right?
Yet I've never seen something like safety goggles or tera grass
Does tera water just have so much value that it's still worth using over ignoring amoonguss
Btw is Iron bundle uber in vgc
It's one of those thigns
vgc doesnt have stuff like ubers. if ur asking if its used atm not really, has had use in the past and prolly will get some in reg g the upcoming format
Where you consider the pros and cons about it. Tera-Water has a lot of threshold KOs it hits so the power-spike is extremely relevant. Depending on your tera-type you alter the dynamic and matchup prep more significantly between lost KOs/being able to ignore something like Amoonguss
Its one of those things you "play around"
I mean in doubles ubers
there are no Ubers or OUs in VGC
that is Smogon's
isnt that a separate format? vgc is not that
Not sv battle stadium. Smogon. Is Ib ubers in doubles
I get vgc and doubles conflated since their both doubles
they seem pretty different from wat i gather so idt many ppl r gna be able to help u there
idk personally if bundle is good in ubers
SV Battle Stadium are BSS And BSD,both are VGC based
smogon really only exists in Showdown
Im battling someone on cart folloeing smogon rules. I personally hate smogon
tofu
Yesh
good morning.
Good mornings
haaaiii
Whats up
nm hru
glow up frfr
vry cute design 

Any suggestions? Should I go with AV or clear amulet for iron hands and what Tera type. I’ve just been using the one from the mystery gift. The only Pokémon I’m willing to replace is Lando
I just lost to a freeze of 4 turns a crit and my rival not missing a single high horsepower wujuu
F
is tera fairy or tera fighting most popular on caly s
fairy?
for draining kiss
more people go to fairy for better defensive option but fighting offers more offense especially eith terablast
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dialga-Origin: 122-144 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Huh
emmaaaa

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dialga-Origin: 115-136 (55.5 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
i should really get back into vgc-
mmm what’s this for,
I'm just thinking Of Caly Ice MU on Dialga
dang we look good
mudkip goated
go calc a +2 252+ atk lance
after going to regionals my motivation just disappeared
idk bout more common but both are viable, ive personally been liking tera fighting

because i think i want to run tera fairy gambit
tera fighting :0
ohh whys that?

Wide Guard literally
i’m only saying cause i use the wp sneak gimmick with calymimi

novaaaa i found the unfun stage of transitioning
I know this is not competitive but no fucking way
What does it translate to?
uh oh
growing pains
This Pokemon's attacks with recoil or crash damage have their power multiplied by 1.2. Does not affect Struggle.
If you go out in the Sun its +2 to SpA/Atk instead of +1
o snap
add on simple and now it’s +4 to SpA/Atk
do you think my chachas have chlorophyll and will have double the speed ..?


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