#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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Ah

timber falcon
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why do i always lose speed ties

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fluid fiber
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I still think a new Pokemon Battle Revolution where all mechanics could be toggled would be amazing

timber falcon
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no matter what my caly-s is slower than others

fluid fiber
timber falcon
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i lose protect

fluid fiber
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Then lose the speed ties GengHeart

autumn vault
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Boom monster created

fluid fiber
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Well off to work for 8 hours

timber falcon
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amoongus or farig

molten oasis
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Poky why did you ping me

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Then delete the message, again

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timber falcon
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why fire moongus

mighty stump
timber falcon
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yes

mighty stump
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Oh well

timber falcon
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and those ties still hate me

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timber falcon
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just use water

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fire lets u be hit by HH

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warped mason
autumn vault
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Power Herb + Meteor Beam is best on this team

warped mason
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I'll try that

vague geode
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anyone wanna multi battle?

timber falcon
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just lost to another fricking speed tie

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WHY CANT I OUTSPEED

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heck im even calcing to see if theyre running scarf, and that man was in fact NOT scarfed but using specs

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im generally pissed

molten oasis
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We now have NAIC registration times

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I am gonna try to go

timber falcon
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good luck

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btw are chances for speed tie just 50/50

autumn vault
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They are a coin flip and you have shit luck when it comes to a coin flip

timber falcon
foggy lodge
mighty stump
timber falcon
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does scarf shifu OHKO caly-s?

foggy lodge
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Probably not

timber falcon
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Hmm

molten oasis
timber falcon
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Oh that’s nice to know

molten oasis
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Assuming no bulk

timber falcon
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Oh

molten oasis
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252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 180-216 (102.8 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

timber falcon
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Hmm ok so that can work

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molten oasis
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That’s still an Ohko to me

autumn vault
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A VERY small chance to not OHKO

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You shouldn't worry about it anyways

shadow wind
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Also I think the chances are skewed because it’s a multi hit.

autumn vault
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Yes i know

bold geode
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A basically 6.2-6.3% chance
Basically 1/16 chance to not OHKO
That is not a great gamble lmao

mighty stump
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👁️

bold geode
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🫵👁️👁️

upbeat quail
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I keep running into minimize comps with smeargle on the SV ladder. Nothing is more annoying people who play those strats

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Ah yes, minimize spam. Great fun

chrome knot
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1 heat crash, 1 sacred sword yaayyy

craggy dagger
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i just….

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watched a game of the century

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@thorny beacon fuck you

thorny beacon
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it was cinematic

willow vault
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I bought some sauce. It’s gonna be really nice with some spaghet

molten oasis
chrome knot
warped mason
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Sableye vgc just won a tourney with this

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Love the kantonian zapdos

thorny beacon
chrome knot
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haaaai

thorny beacon
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hi, i should not be here squirtle 👍

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very bad at vgc squirtle

willow vault
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That’s fine people always start of that way

chrome knot
thorny beacon
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been busy with uni final year

chrome knot
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ouhhhh

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how school been

thorny beacon
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fockin, many group assignments

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it's tough but at the same time it's pretty good

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very happy with the mates i got

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on break atm but it's only 1 week, get thrown back into the warzone next week

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as soon as we get back, we work with a client to design an ad campaign of some sort for them, holding a meeting to dicuss and shit

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so there's that

chrome knot
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woa lot’s happening

thorny beacon
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yeah, but it's good to take my mind off it for now KEKWCRY

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played vgc for the first time today so hence why i got reeled in here AusSquirtle

chrome knot
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and howd that go :3

thorny beacon
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bububaba gave me cybertron's worlds team so we jumped straight into showdown and it was a lot of info to take in PikaLmao

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played about 19 games

untold urchin
thorny beacon
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went uh 11-8 but a lot of help

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then this green guy wanted me to play on cart so i grabbed wolfey's team and got treated to seeing hammer arm tornadus and endeavour sentret

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so that was very funny KEKWCRY

warped mason
thorny beacon
warped mason
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Tho i like discussing competitive teams

molten oasis
untold urchin
warped mason
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If it takes kyurem to beat kyogre then I'm all for it

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Kyurem white is my goat

molten oasis
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It looks good into that twam

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Freeze dry especially

warped mason
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Just ran into this guy running hisuian lilligant on koraidon, he gave koraidon chlorophyl 💀

molten oasis
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Yuh, fast sleep powder

chrome knot
thorny beacon
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felt fast though on showdown so at the time it felt like a normal amount of games

radiant siren
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Ultra Ball yes

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So fun to play the double battles

molten oasis
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well, paying for NAIC, is gonna suck

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that is all of my paychecks for the next month

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but it’s worth it

craggy dagger
bold geode
craggy dagger
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he’s 5-0 on cart so that’s good :0

molten oasis
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Dude

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It’s $100 a night

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CHEAPEST from what I found

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I don’t get to spend money for the next month lmao

craggy dagger
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:0

molten oasis
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It’s worth it

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molten oasis
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Plus Uber

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And the flight

abstract torrent
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Hello! Is this the right place to ask for vgc help?

molten oasis
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And food

abstract torrent
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Hello! I've played a few games during the SWSH pre-DLC era and was able to reach Master Ball rank for the rewards. Now it's the first time I'm doing this in SV. After getting close to 33% wr in 25 games, I've won the past 6 games using this team, but its ofensive coverage is not that good. The strategy works around enabling the genie duo so they can do the work through bleakwind and sandsear storms (100% in the rain). This also helps Urshifu deal tons of damage. Since tailwind is usually on the field, Flutter Mane's nature is modest to get the 30% spa bonus. Amoonguss is there to redirect + defensive coverage when switching mons.

As I said, its coverage is not the best. I've had some problems when playing against a Zapdos. The only superefective move was ice beam from the Politoed (which was built as a defensive support).

Any tips you can give me to improve this team?

molten oasis
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Wait sorry I wanted to favorite it

molten oasis
abstract torrent
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Ranked battles in reg F

autumn vault
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Also sludge bomb on amoonguss is pretty bad, i would reccomend to replace it for pollen puff to be more supportive and get an offensive move

fluid fiber
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I feel like rain dance on Torn is better than having the Politoad

autumn vault
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Also Damp Rock is very bad

fluid fiber
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chrome knot
fluid fiber
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But yeah overall pollen is better

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But I don't think politoad helps much

abstract torrent
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Who could be a good replacement for Politoed? Raging Bolt or Incineroar?

fluid fiber
fluid fiber
chrome knot
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nah neil thought he had lost already and decided tera stellar looked cooler than poison LOL

fluid fiber
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So is Rilla

molten oasis
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Bro ok

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Flight, are so cheap, which is so hype

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ROUND TRIP are like at most $400, which is great

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Right now at least

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The hotel is what’s gonna suck me dry

fluid fiber
molten oasis
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Lmfao

chrome knot
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bnb with people

molten oasis
chrome knot
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theres always people lookin for rooms for events

molten oasis
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Ok well ig the question is where do I look

chrome knot
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twitter

molten oasis
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I will do what I must

chrome knot
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u actin like they bad people

molten oasis
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I’m joking sorry, I’m not active on Twitter lol idk how people are

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I’ve heard bad things that’s all

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I will go there, if no luck I will be broke as shit

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Anyone else planning on going to NAIC?

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bold geode
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Or split hotel costs

molten oasis
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Oh, gtk

bold geode
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They do that for like
EVERY event

molten oasis
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Good, cuz i don’t want to pay $500+ for hotel fees lol

bold geode
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Good ol New Orleans shit

molten oasis
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The flights aren’t that bad at least

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The other thing

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Is deciding what I’m bringing

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So like, once I get signed up and I’m done with finals

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It’s go time lol

bold geode
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I mean
I don't know anyone complaining about plane prices, unless it's like Hawaii or somewhere REALLY busting with tourism

molten oasis
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I thought plane tickets were like, stupid expensive but I think I’m just remembering costs from Japan

bold geode
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Like a few tourists might visit New Orleans, but not many especially considering the time of year
Now if the competition was around Mardi Gras, you'd be fucked

molten oasis
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Lmao

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I plan to buy my plane ticket next week

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And then I’m just gonna try to avoid spending

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Too much

bold geode
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Gonna buy both for to and back?

molten oasis
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Round trip flights

bold geode
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👌

molten oasis
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Highest I saw was $700 and the average was like $300ish

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So I should be fine for flights

bold geode
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The only time I flew, we raised money, but that was taken care of by a tour thing we were going thru so
Idk how that works tbh

molten oasis
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Ah

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Yea I haven’t done flights myself so this is my first time looking at things

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bold geode
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None of them are really over hyped, but if I had to choose

autumn vault
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One is more overhyped than the others

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Imo it is Miraidon

next stump
molten oasis
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Hype

next stump
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downtown hotels are gonna be a bitch though, but they did say that there will be some discounts given with certain partner hotels

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at least on their info portal it said that

molten oasis
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Hopefully I can get into one quickly

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Cuz finding something farther out means more money for in city transportation

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And, money for hotels

torn parrot
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Eeeee oooo aaaa

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Sadly it’s defintely koraidon

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Poor guy

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I was part of the hype train

polar canyon
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Miraidon is really cool I love it

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Until rillaboom rolls up

solid frigate
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solid frigate
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and i don't have a job yet

fluid fiber
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I have a job but just got my house so funds are going into that for now korainothoughts

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Hoping to attend an event soon though

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Rn I have like a 60% win rate too so I have to bolster up that number before I want to do anything big

foggy lodge
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Quick question

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Salamence or Latias as a tailwind setter

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 373: Salamence
Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Moxie (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/135/80/110/80/100

Total

600

Other Formes

Salamence-Mega

molten oasis
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 380: Latias
Types

Dragon/Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/80/90/110/130/110

Total

600

Other Formes

Latias-Mega

craggy dagger
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checks lando nicely

foggy lodge
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It's for a weird tournament, not a reg F or G tournament

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I used Latias because of the faster tailwind, but with Salamence i can pivot intimidates

bold geode
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Tryna figure out how to go between like
Either full Quark Drive teams or HO stuff

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Probably could be used another way, but that's essentially basic Miraidon stuff

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Meanwhile with Koraidon, I still say Groudon better as a general sun setter unless you want a touch more offense
And if you say Terapagos is overhyped rn, then you're just coping I'm sorry

autumn vault
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I just put it there because it was hyped a lot here

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Not as much as miraidon, but you get what i am trying to say

bold geode
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Nah the hype is definitely there with Miraidon

autumn vault
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Now i wonder why it has a vote

bold geode
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I wouldn't say it's over

autumn vault
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I thought the cyclizar ancestor/descendant would be the only ones voted and not the turtle

bold geode
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Tbh I don't even think Koraidon is overhyped
Just if I had to choose

autumn vault
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I didn't see much hype for Koraidon

bold geode
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Cuz people wanted Groudon lol

autumn vault
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People were like "Tera fire sun is very strong, but flutter is a huge problem and groudon is not weak to it is worse than groudon" type of thing

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Atleast what i know, it might have more than that

willow vault
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I reckon I said that statement a million times

autumn vault
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Personally if you are so worried about flutter with Koraidon then use Scarf or Tailwind, ez as that

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It is quite simple

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Outspeed the outspeeder

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bold geode
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Like Koraidon has to compete with Groudon rn in terms of sun setting
And unless you want more offensive sun setter, I say Groudon is better
Groudon is the one OLD Mon that is still great
It got even more viable in fact
But I won't say Koraidon is God awful

autumn vault
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We have Kyurem-W who does great in snow and Rayquaza who is very good in Tofu's eyes

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And also Kyogre who although it is worse is still great

willow vault
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I think I also said I’d rather have Groudon since fairy + Ground is so good offensively plus both stab attacks that hit multiple targets

autumn vault
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It is an A tier mon, but not an unviable mon

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Kyogre + Archaludon is actually good

willow vault
autumn vault
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And also removing weather

bold geode
autumn vault
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I didn't say Ray is incredible, it is good but not THAT good

bold geode
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Yeah I was just clarifying what I meant

autumn vault
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yeah ik

autumn vault
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Flutter mane

bold geode
autumn vault
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I didn't call it great or amazing, it is a good combo

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Arch resists grass and electric

bold geode
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Like it was already good in rain before so

autumn vault
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Kyogre has a better Mu into ground which Archaludon does not like

bold geode
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Then again, Archaludon is actually not as bad into Groudon
You forget that in terms of bulk physically, Archaludon ain't lackin

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1018: Archaludon
Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/105/130/125/65/85

Total

600

molten oasis
autumn vault
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I didn't forget

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It is physically bulky, Kyogre is a specially bulky mon

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Man these 2 have synergy

bold geode
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It's SpDef is the only problem
But that's honestly like
Rough
Like the meta has a good mix of spatkers and physical rn imo

bold geode
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And with the items they run, it's harder cuz with a team, you want everything
Snarl
Wisp
Knock Off
Wide Guard
Yet it's hard to do so lol

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At least that's what it feels like to me rn

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molten oasis
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What’s the issue rn

autumn vault
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Planning to test it tomorrow because of the bottom image

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That is the time in my country

molten oasis
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Why not defensive Tera on Archa

autumn vault
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offense cause why not

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Besides all my archaludons use offensive teras

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And they kick but with them

molten oasis
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I just generally see more value out of fairy

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But ok

autumn vault
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Flying to resist ground and fighting is also very valuable as a defensive tera

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And weak to 2 types that you previously resisted

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Ice is dealt with thx to steel STAB

molten oasis
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Ok but getting weak to caly s isn’t a good idea

autumn vault
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Wait why isn't it used?

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molten oasis
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Sorry, ice

autumn vault
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Also surprised to not see flying

solid frigate
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Bug its just Underrated as a Tera Type-

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but its bad soooo

autumn vault
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Flying has a ground immunity, a fighting resist, deals with fighting types with tera flying blast (pls dont use), weak to 2 types that Arch resisted, Ice dealt with by steel STAB

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Honestly why not tera flying?

timber falcon
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timber falcon
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which mon?

autumn vault
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Archaludon

timber falcon
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yeah then no flying is suprising

autumn vault
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Only drawback is being weak to miraidon and calyrex ice

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Calyrex ice is dealt with by stamina and steel STAB

timber falcon
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timber falcon
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i mean, id probably use fairy typing with archaludon

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lul what

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halcyon garnet
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Yo guys I need some advice I hate running trick room teams and I'm having problems.with them with the team I'm running. Is it worth it putting trick room on flutter mane to reverse it ? Or how do people deal with trick room besides stalling

timber falcon
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taunt

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mons like amoongus

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halcyon garnet
# timber falcon mons like amoongus

Amoonguss has so many good moves its hard to put taunt on him. What would you recommend replacing? I'm using spore/sludge bomb/protect/rage powder

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Or were those separate thoughts lol. Taunt and pokemon like amoonguss

timber falcon
halcyon garnet
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Oh you meant taunt theirs to stop trick room

timber falcon
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mhm

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OR use a slow pokemon that can work in tirck room

chrome knot
next stump
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what team are you using @halcyon garnet ? it's really subjective with your team as to how to handle trick room

torn parrot
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Amoongus has taunt wtf?

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Oh no it doesn’t

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You meant taunt the moongus

rustic mountain
charred saddle
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sus amogus

bold geode
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
polar canyon
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Amoonguss being a new trans icon is funny

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Now I have some newfound respect for it

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The ally shroom

tough idol
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poliwhirlkek I am back CreepyDollHead

polar canyon
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No mans sky player

tough idol
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If that was to me, I haven't played since release. I just had a 'pain' and general break

timber falcon
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love seeing a misty terrain howl ninetails

dapper crag
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Move: Misty Terrain

For 5 turns, the terrain becomes Misty Terrain. During the effect, the power of Dragon-type attacks used against grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 0.5 and grounded Pokemon cannot be inflicted with a non-volatile status condition nor confusion. Grounded Pokemon can become affected by Yawn but cannot fall asleep from its effect. Camouflage transforms the user into a Fairy type, Nature Power becomes Moonblast, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to lower Special Attack by 1 stage. Fails if the current terrain is Misty Terrain.

Type

Fairy

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

timber falcon
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pretty unique

tough idol
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Less than 2 weeks to Reg G all the unique shit gonna come out now

timber falcon
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suprise factor is at large

rustic mountain
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howl a9 is wild

timber falcon
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not only that, i tried stop veil with rain dance and that mf had skill swap sabelye

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he perfectly stopped my EVERY move

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i cant even be mad lol that was impressive

polar canyon
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I still did run out of things to do

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But only after 120ish hours

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I assumed you were a player bc everyone in the discord has the main galaxy and console in their usernames

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Galaxy euclid and ps4 version

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Competitive pokemon discussion chat at its finest

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Anyways I think I'll try dusk mane again

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Idk how I didn't use urshifu last time I tried it

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It can deal with incin and lando

tough idol
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Haha 😄 I didn't realise. I just rejoined server, forgot default name

bold geode
charred saddle
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grass monkey strong

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love how the new team cybertron featured feels

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back to top 1k Yay

torn parrot
charred saddle
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kek i never realized i caught this shit

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0 speed and bold too KEKWlaugh

torn parrot
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Wtf

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That’s so unreal

charred saddle
solid frigate
rustic mountain
charred saddle
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they self flare blitz to thaw out kekwhands

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what in the hell

rustic mountain
charred saddle
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kinda wanna say theyre smart but like theres nothing threatening the mushroom

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oh btw does ludon wall terapagos?

rustic mountain
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id have to watch the replay but its prolly jus a bad play

charred saddle
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since i was thinking body press is like annoying

rustic mountain
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archaludon?

charred saddle
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yep

rustic mountain
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i mean depends on the set, i think a lot are running earth power

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nd if u tera ur just toast to starstorm

charred saddle
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oh turtle gets EP right

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thats ass

solid frigate
chrome knot
charred saddle
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starstorm ep and meteor

rustic mountain
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i dont need to watch to know that

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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clefairy torn is wild

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howd u get that position

charred saddle
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oh mb

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paused at the wrong turn

solid frigate
charred saddle
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switch A9 to torn and they self blitz to amoonguss clef protect

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and the spore into clef KEKWCRY

rustic mountain
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yea i agree w/ emma that match sounds like a mess

charred saddle
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itll be insane if they spore into a9 tho

rustic mountain
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thats how it be sometimes tho

charred saddle
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i mean its still cool tech and i wouldnt thought about it

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i even forgot that u thaw from fire actually

solid frigate
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and ya know whats funny iss that i sacrifce A9 and let Torn jump in for Tailwind

rustic mountain
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not every fire move unthaws

charred saddle
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oh?

rustic mountain
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just certain ones

charred saddle
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da fauck

solid frigate
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only flare blitz and some others

rustic mountain
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u thought itd make sense?

charred saddle
solid frigate
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I'm fine with A9 being in my team Having Aurora Veil instead of Grimmsnarl spam both screens is way better plus Snow Boosted A9

solid frigate
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And i mean actual Stellar Tera Starstorm

charred saddle
rustic mountain
solid frigate
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anyways

rustic mountain
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i did

charred saddle
solid frigate
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i'm just stupid

rustic mountain
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its all good haha

solid frigate
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rn i have to position A9 better

charred saddle
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thing with A9 is

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its very open to taunt prankster, manual weather, weather war

rustic mountain
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yea

charred saddle
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and like ur moveset is blizzard and veil which i dont really like

rustic mountain
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gta just be mindful of those options

charred saddle
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once u lost the weather u lose ur damage source of ice

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but its still a good choice nonetheless not saying its bad

rustic mountain
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u think freeze dry too? its not like ur really gna want to click that most times

charred saddle
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its just a different gameplay then grimm

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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if u lose weather/veil option a9 is kinda jus dead weight anyway barring specific matchups

mighty stump
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👁️

charred saddle
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bang, makan bubur ayam bang

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enak

rustic mountain
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huh

mighty stump
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Jam sgini bang

charred saddle
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malah bubur ayam adanya pagi anjg

mighty stump
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Baru bangun gw mana mau pesen makanan

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Gw makan granola 🆒

charred saddle
mighty stump
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ill white wash your mom

charred saddle
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rude

rustic mountain
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i miss rotom wash

molten oasis
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Tofu, I never got your thought on that kyurem team

rustic mountain
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cuz he thinks its mid

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nah im jkin

mighty stump
molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
charred saddle
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does rotom mow actually gwt a time to shine?

rustic mountain
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why

charred saddle
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i remember the oven rotom gets a play and wash

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dont remember if mow gets it

chrome knot
rustic mountain
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rotom heat and wash are generally good in regional dex formats

molten oasis
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Are they?

solid frigate
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Wash and Oven are most used, idk if mow is used

charred saddle
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ye ye heat and wash mb

rustic mountain
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mow i think was used in 2015 wc finals

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i think jeudy had it? so wait was that 2014

solid frigate
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wait does Frost and Mow get plays ever?

charred saddle
mighty stump
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Rotom-Heat not bad into Caly-S

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Bad into everything else tho

molten oasis
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Why is that?

charred saddle
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huh really?

rustic mountain
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frost i think was used as a meme team in early sv but otherwise no

mighty stump
#

Woops

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Caly-Ice not S

rustic mountain
#

nd i think mow had fringe use case back in 2014/2015

charred saddle
#

oh yeye

mighty stump
#

I used Mow in SwSh

charred saddle
#

talking a bout fringe theres still fridge rotom KEKWCRY

solid frigate
#

am i gonna buy another plush because i am using Dialga-

rustic mountain
solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Wisp/Leaf Storm/V-Switch/Protect

solid frigate
#

Ah make sense

rustic mountain
#

i used wash a handful of times in swsh it was fun

charred saddle
#

oh the mow rotom still gets wisp?

molten oasis
charred saddle
#

i rhougth like only heat gets it

charred saddle
mighty stump
charred saddle
#

dude telor pitan is shit

#

bau

mighty stump
#

cina palsu

rustic mountain
mighty stump
#

I found the best Caly-S set oml

rustic mountain
#

csr w/ tera jus feels unfair at times

solid frigate
#

time to experiment a bit of Origin Dialga

mighty stump
#

I don't even need to Tera

rustic mountain
#

oh i was speaking moreso generally

#

and in my experience playing it

mighty stump
#

Calyrex-Shadow @ Life Orb
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Astral Barrage
  • Psyshock
  • Encore
  • Protect

You're welcome

rustic mountain
#

yoink

charred saddle
#

the fuck

rustic mountain
#

thanks

mighty stump
#

Psyshock is just superior as Psychic STAB

charred saddle
#

why the fuck does caly gets weird moves like encore

solid frigate
#

Me when:

solid frigate
#

why

rustic mountain
#

embrace its brokeness

mighty stump
charred saddle
#

oh righth psyshock does dmg to def

#

thats annoying damn

#

going AV and get ohkoed by psyshock

mighty stump
#

OHKOs Flutter, bypasses AV/CM

solid frigate
#

wait Dialga can resist Caly Ice right?

mighty stump
charred saddle
#

neutral to ice

#

not resist

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Im sure you can actually run Chien-Pao + Caly-S together

rustic mountain
#

the b2b csr kos Kawhismile

mighty stump
#

Also in case anyone wondered why I kept clicking Dragon Energy: Pelipper was on 1 and I wanted to pressure that slot without missing

rustic mountain
#

yea feel that

mighty stump
#

4.8 BP Dragon Energy btw

rustic mountain
#

lol

#

the best dragon energy

charred saddle
solid frigate
#

Pelipper:Well shi-

Gets bombarded by a Pencil Powered Dragon energy

mighty stump
#

It's pretty good/oppressive

#

H2O cause it's Rain + HO

rustic mountain
#

running 4/6 of the same atm

solid frigate
#

welp both of my restricted gets Death sentenced by Koraidon-

rustic mountain
solid frigate
#

Dialga and Terapagos:Exists
Koraidon:Ooooo 2x

charred saddle
solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Tera Shell:

rustic mountain
#

that w/ tofus spread drakeyes

mighty stump
#

Armarouge/Heatran also good into Groudon atm

#

if you don't mind using Tera

rustic mountain
#

heatran resurgence? hmmchamp

charred saddle
#

grass i assume?

mighty stump
#

Flash Fire + Grass

solid frigate
#

Tera Grass Heatran yea-

rustic mountain
#

the return of the homie

mighty stump
#

I wouldn't discount Ceruledge either

rustic mountain
#

i would

mighty stump
#

Just casue BB in Sun does decently + Shadow Sneak access for Flutter Manes

#

I'm nto saying its gonna be amazing but people can use it

rustic mountain
#

fair

solid frigate
#

how is my laptop still in 82% swithout charging-

#

and its a old laptop as well-

shadow wind
#

Then it’s over for you.

charred saddle
#

flashfire

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

force the oger tera ASbigBrain

charred saddle
#

oh mold ye

cyan smelt
#

Mold breaker

solid frigate
charred saddle
#

ye ye

shadow wind
#

Oger for you even.

rustic mountain
#

they realized lmao chill

rustic mountain
polar canyon
#

Weak armor weakness policy and aqua jet steamhappy slash j

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

not just u haha but like whew the cavalry was in full affect

shadow wind
#

I mean I barely remember fire oger has mold.

mighty stump
#

oh no, anyways

charred saddle
#

the most shittiest shit ive ever encountered and made me dreamt of that shit is

surging strike into weakness policy weak armour endure armarouge

solid frigate
shadow wind
#

Handy in a lot of situations.

charred saddle
#

+6 speed +2 spA and just casually swtich in indeedee spam stuff is fucking annoying

polar canyon
charred saddle
#

its self proc

#

self surging

#

forgot to specify its endure

polar canyon
#

Oh

charred saddle
#

its endure

mighty stump
#

lol

torn parrot
#

my friend made this for me
i think its made with a guy on twitter's art who makes little pokemon thumbnails

charred saddle
#

oh thats nice holy crap

polar canyon
#

That's really cute

mighty stump
solid frigate
#

i only just Photoshop my stuff

torn parrot
charred saddle
#

oo

mighty stump
#

Speaking of graphics

polar canyon
#

I wish I had the budget to pay artists for cool art for fun

mighty stump
#

Updated the blog aesthetic with a self-made banner as well:

polar canyon
#

That's a really cool style

mighty stump
#

Cube_Ori releases a lot of free wallpapers for your phones too

#

On their twitter

shadow wind
#

Gyarados off Kanagawa.

mighty stump
shadow wind
#

Very epic.

polar canyon
#

If I was an ogerpon fanatic I'd use that

#

I mean it in a good way

mighty stump
#

I was gonna contact them to do my blogsite wallpaper cause I thought a version of their Magikarp would look very nicely

shadow wind
#

That’s dope.

polar canyon
#

Cute

mighty stump
#

Then I came across Gyarados off Kanagawa and say the texture of the art and it scratched my brain

polar canyon
#

Fun story

charred saddle
#

was watching cybertron, and he mentioned sub urshifu. is that even a thing?

#

like dropping prio?

polar canyon
#

How would you go about a dusk mane team?

mighty stump
#

Probably for TClap

charred saddle
#

hm

mighty stump
solid frigate
#

i am still thinking of Which Prankster Tailwind should i bring,Torn or Whim

polar canyon
#

I was considering dd ca setup

polar canyon
#

Slow sd ca does sound good tho

#

Urshifu and rain dance torn that help cover for fire weakness and incin/lando

timber falcon
#

It sounds extra

solid frigate
#

and yes Hybrid Trick Room Tailwind Dialga team-

charred saddle
#

torn

polar canyon
solid frigate
charred saddle
#

flying coverage is nice and doesnt overlap with the fairy tera and flutter

timber falcon
solid frigate
#

Protect Saved my ass couple of times lol but sure

mighty stump
#

Finally cut down my teamlist lol

#

Just saying, this games about to be like, Rilla/Incin/Urshi still +3

#

So it's not too bad

polar canyon
#

If I run sash on torn should I still invest in bulk?

charred saddle
#

yeah rilla incin urshi feels so strong

tough idol
#

I like the potential Encore control from Whim.

charred saddle
mighty stump
charred saddle
#

for Surging?

mighty stump
#

Yep

charred saddle
#

thats very niche no?

polar canyon
#

Is it

mighty stump
#

Most of the time even for Surging I wouldn't but in this scenario

timber falcon
charred saddle
#

mhm

#

i mean it does make sense

#

dk how i fee about it tho

tough idol
autumn kelp
#

man I havent play in months and I need to re-understand everything again lol so sad

mighty stump
#

I think Miraidon is kinda mid

patent marsh
timber falcon
polar canyon
#

I love using miraidon and it's sadly mid

#

Rillaboom just shuts it down

mighty stump
#

Don't get me wrong, you still have to respect it heavily

rustic mountain
#

yea

timber falcon
charred saddle
#

btw tree, cybertron just featured his own team that had steel tera shifu too KEKWCRY

rustic mountain
#

yep i saw

charred saddle
#

tried it, feels so insanely good that i can just stay on field and bonk mons

polar canyon
mighty stump
#

I personally think everyone fell into that synergy-trap

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

weve been using the same team

#

aaron knows

mighty stump
#

That you have to use Future Paradoxes with it

mighty stump
rustic mountain
#

i ran that like most of last month

charred saddle
#

the bulk tho

#

the bulk lets me live a lot of dumb stuff

#

living like 20hp

rustic mountain
#

yea

polar canyon
#

It did feel really bad when the beads of ruin boosted draco meteor missed the lando t and it used earthquake

charred saddle
#

crazy calc holy

dapper crag
#
Move: Draining Kiss

The user recovers 3/4 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

50

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

polar canyon
#

I like 4 hp 20 spdef

mighty stump
#

60 BP boost? what

solid frigate
#

should i ran BM ursa or regular ursa

charred saddle
#

cybertron had 68hp 4 def 92 spdef on shifu

rustic mountain
#

idk depends on the team

charred saddle
#

so much bulk compared to standard ones

polar canyon
solid frigate
mighty stump
rustic mountain
tough idol
solid frigate
charred saddle
mighty stump
#

Regular Ursa feels better against CM users

timber falcon
#

can tsarena and caly-s work well together

#

im thinking AV tsarena

solid frigate
#

Half PLA half gen 9 team moment lets go lol

polar canyon
#

I wanna think about intimidate but it does have stab effective moves vs incin

rustic mountain
mighty stump
rustic mountain
#

mans wants me to backscroll like 10min up

charred saddle
#

tsareena works quite similar to fari

mighty stump
#

But no reason it wouldn't, techinically

charred saddle
#

but fari is bulkier and has more support util moves

rustic mountain
#

i agree w. tofu

charred saddle
#

oh tsareena is grass?

rustic mountain
#

yea?

polar canyon
#

You can also use indeedee for prio control and synergy with expanding force

timber falcon
rustic mountain
#

watd u think it was

charred saddle
#

thought it was ice since they usually spam triple axel

rustic mountain
#

bruh

solid frigate
charred saddle
#

i watched like gen 8 them using triple axel KEKWCRY

timber falcon
charred saddle
#

never, only heard about the ability

rustic mountain
#

prolly regular ursaluna to give u some good physical damage/coverage

boreal mauveBOT
#
Normal Tsareena
charred saddle
#

i mean watched ye but not that like into it

rustic mountain
#

classic ice type

polar canyon
#

The shiny one maybe you could think kinda looks ice

polar canyon
#

If you squint hard enough

mighty stump
#

-calc 120x0.75

gentle cragBOT
#

Result: 90.000000

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

tofu, do u still have that rly bulky rilla set? i lost it

rustic mountain
polar canyon
#

Honestly someone should make a document to put all the cool spreads made or mentioned by people here

mighty stump
rustic mountain
tough idol
rustic mountain
#

yes typical ice type stuff

charred saddle
#

i never knew the other abilty

#

all i know is the majestic thingy

timber falcon
rustic mountain
#

queenly majesty

charred saddle
#

and like watching gen 8 seeing triple axel and getting SE ohkoes by incin

#

i go "thats ice"

polar canyon
#

And you never looked at the pokemon?

rustic mountain
#

honestly if farigarif didnt exist tsareena would prolly see more useage

polar canyon
#

Bruxish would see usage fr trust me

charred saddle
solid frigate
#

Me running Tera Ice Triple Axel Meowscarada:

tough idol
#

Ooh I have Premier Ball role now PikaLmao kept rank but also newb

charred saddle
#

i only started vgc late reg E KEKWCRY

timber falcon
charred saddle
#

all i know is fari

solid frigate
polar canyon
#

Worst one by far too

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

underrated?

#

its ability fodder

polar canyon
#

Nah I don't hate how it looks but it does suck ass in game

#

Hey it has stab strong jaw psychic fangs

solid frigate
polar canyon
#

Surely an excuse to use it

mighty stump
#

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 28 Def / 172 SpD / 44 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Fake Out
  • Grassy Glide
  • Wood Hammer
  • U-turn
gentle cragBOT
polar canyon
#

I wonder if anyone out there uses bruxish to stop priority

timber falcon
#

I’ve seen it

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 779: Bruxish
Types

Water/Psychic

Abilities

Dazzling, Strong Jaw, Wonder Skin (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/105/70/70/70/92

Total

475

timber falcon
#

And I lost to it

#

Surprise factor caught me off guard GengarSad

dapper crag
#
Ability: Wonder Skin

Non-damaging moves that check accuracy have their accuracy changed to 50% when used against this Pokemon. This effect comes before other effects that modify accuracy.

polar canyon
#

I just hit my head and got a bump like in cartoons

#

Unrelated but it happened right now and I wanna mention it

solid frigate
polar canyon
#

Not rlly

tough idol
#

Ouch then?

solid frigate
#

i got bonked on the road sign

polar canyon
#

Let's make a bruxish team

timber falcon
#

Bruxish balance

polar canyon
#

Brulance

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

Incin must be in the side Ofc it’s mandatory

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

10-3 in sets rn

timber falcon
#

Regidrago ?

polar canyon
#

I'm not serious about making a bruxish team btw

#

Don't do that

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

But why

#

Why not, I might try

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 779: Bruxish
Types

Water/Psychic

Abilities

Dazzling, Strong Jaw, Wonder Skin (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/105/70/70/70/92

Total

475

mighty stump
timber falcon
#

Thought wide guard spams would be too much nowadays

mighty stump
#

It gets other moves

polar canyon
#

goldendragon but instead of ghold it's dialga origin

charred saddle
#

even like dragon fang dragon pulse drago hits so hard

#

doesnt have to be energy spm

timber falcon
#

Ik but it mostly wants dragon energy sweeps right

polar canyon
#

Draco meteor hits like 20 trucks at once too

mighty stump
#

That's one of the tools

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

252 SpA Dragon Fang Dragon's Maw Regidrago Helping Hand Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 193-228 (95.5 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

That man was running max max omlg

mighty stump
#

well not like it mattered

polar canyon
#

Imagine if it just missed

timber falcon
#

Can that Incin tank a meteor beam though, from lunala

mighty stump
#

If its max spdef? probably

#

+1 252+ SpA Lunala Meteor Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 180-212 (89.1 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

timber falcon
#

Hmm interesting

polar canyon
#

If it can tank helping hand dragon fang dragons maw draco meteor I doubt it dies to non stab meteor beam

timber falcon
#

Might have to check out max max Incin at some point

polar canyon
#

Oh

charred saddle
#

non stab +1

shadow wind
#

AV incin gonna go crazy.

#

Essentially stab.

polar canyon
mighty stump
#

I ran near max spdef AV Incin just to ruin people's day

polar canyon
#

Huge

solid frigate
#

LOL

mighty stump
#

I also have half consideration to run fast incin to knock off PHerb before Lunala can fire it

solid frigate
#

wait how much is AV Max Sp Def-

polar canyon
#

Bro lives helping hand lando i earth power

#

Does it actually tho

mighty stump
#

+1 252+ SpA Lunala Meteor Beam vs. 236 HP / 244+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 122-144 (61 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

solid frigate
#

holy fu-

polar canyon
#

Tera rock lunala with helping hand

mighty stump
#

I mean

polar canyon
#

Just as seen in real games

mighty stump
#

252 SpA Life Orb Tera-Fighting Calyrex-Shadow Rider Helping Hand Tera Blast vs. 236 HP / 244+ SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 166-198 (83 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

polar canyon
#

I see it alllll the time

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

In case anyones wondering

#

To outspeed Lunala you need to be Jolly 220+ Incin

polar canyon
#

Does it have snarl or anything for tera fighting caly after it takes that hit

mighty stump
#

if its neutral nature non-0 speed

mighty stump
#

But it's nice to know you won't die

#

save it for later

polar canyon
#

Real

bold geode
#

Wtf is that calc

polar canyon
#

One more fake out and intimidate

mighty stump
#

mm

#

I should probably do a Rental + Team dump real quick

polar canyon
#

You can just tera ghost and take 0%

#

Just pretend you won't get hit by astral barrage

#

Imagine if showdown ever gets taken down

#

What I've heard is that it's in "beta" phase so it won't get taken down or something

#

Eternal beta

cyan smelt
#

They won't take it down because there'd be a huge backlash from the community

polar canyon
#

That too

cyan smelt
#

There's formats on there that don't exist on cart

polar canyon
#

The smogon official ones like ou are meant to be replicatable in game im pretty sure

#

Isn't that one of their excuses to remove sleep clause and just ban sleep moves?

mighty stump
#

Oh god no

strange fjord
#

some wont be able to replicate on cart. nat dex for one. and the CAP ones too

mighty stump
#

OU can go up to over 50+ turns at a high level

mighty stump
#

You'll run out of time before actually getting to play

#

There's a reason why theres no one is asking to play 6v6 OU Singles on cart unless you're a casual

polar canyon
#

Even without the timer you'd dc before it ends because it's on the switch

mighty stump
#

Or that

polar canyon
#

And like ofc because you can build a pokemon in 2 minutes on showdown and 2 hours in game

#

If you do it really fast

#

And it's not a legendary

#

Idk how they still haven't come up with a custom rental team editor

#

Other than having comp be a reason for people to buy dlc and older games

#

You want terapagos and calyrex?

#

That's 120 dollars on top of the base sv game

solid frigate
#

yeah.... thats one of the problems on DLC

polar canyon
#

Good luck getting someone to trade you calyrex

solid frigate
#

which is Impossible cuz right now its so good

polar canyon
#

Let alone a 0 speed one if you want to run ice

#

You will not find a fair trade for that one

solid frigate
#

Calyrex is good but reload a save for a 0Ivs Is just torture

polar canyon
#

Rant over I'm tired of complaining to the void

polar canyon
#

I'm willing to change necrozmas set

#

And all the other sets I just don't have yet

cyan smelt
#

How bout lando

polar canyon
#

Incarnate?

#

I can do that

cyan smelt
#

Yes

polar canyon
#

I think I have to look at the kyogre and caly shadow matchups

#

Urshifu water has always been known to dislike fighting amoonguss right?

#

Yet I've never seen something like safety goggles or tera grass

#

Does tera water just have so much value that it's still worth using over ignoring amoonguss

rigid robin
#

Btw is Iron bundle uber in vgc

rustic mountain
#

vgc doesnt have stuff like ubers. if ur asking if its used atm not really, has had use in the past and prolly will get some in reg g the upcoming format

mighty stump
#

Where you consider the pros and cons about it. Tera-Water has a lot of threshold KOs it hits so the power-spike is extremely relevant. Depending on your tera-type you alter the dynamic and matchup prep more significantly between lost KOs/being able to ignore something like Amoonguss

#

Its one of those things you "play around"

rigid robin
#

I mean in doubles ubers

solid frigate
#

that is Smogon's

rustic mountain
rigid robin
#

Not sv battle stadium. Smogon. Is Ib ubers in doubles

#

I get vgc and doubles conflated since their both doubles

rustic mountain
#

they seem pretty different from wat i gather so idt many ppl r gna be able to help u there

#

idk personally if bundle is good in ubers

solid frigate
#

SV Battle Stadium are BSS And BSD,both are VGC based

#

smogon really only exists in Showdown

rigid robin
#

Im battling someone on cart folloeing smogon rules. I personally hate smogon

mighty stump
#

Just go to Smogon's strategy dex lol

#

And you can check tiers

chrome knot
#

tofu

mighty stump
#

Yesh

chrome knot
#

good morning.

mighty stump
#

Good mornings

chrome knot
#

haaaiii

mighty stump
#

Whats up

chrome knot
#

nm hru

mighty stump
#

Did you see my updated blog design

#

Finished it last night before conking out

chrome knot
#

i looked in server about it

#

looks rly rly good

mighty stump
#

glow up frfr

chrome knot
#

vry cute design SphealBounce

rustic mountain
solid frigate
pastel blade
#

Any suggestions? Should I go with AV or clear amulet for iron hands and what Tera type. I’ve just been using the one from the mystery gift. The only Pokémon I’m willing to replace is Lando

foggy lodge
#

I just lost to a freeze of 4 turns a crit and my rival not missing a single high horsepower wujuu

cyan smelt
#

is tera fairy or tera fighting most popular on caly s

cyan smelt
#

for draining kiss

charred saddle
#

more people go to fairy for better defensive option but fighting offers more offense especially eith terablast

solid frigate
#

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dialga-Origin: 122-144 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Huh

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Dialga-Origin: 115-136 (55.5 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

chrome knot
#

novaaaaa

#

haii

craggy dagger
#

i should really get back into vgc-

chrome knot
#

probably yeah

#

ive been glued to explorers of sky on my phone

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

dang we look good

solid frigate
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
#

because i think i want to run tera fairy gambit

craggy dagger
#

tera fighting :0

foggy lodge
chrome knot
molten oasis
craggy dagger
molten oasis
chrome knot
#

novaaaa i found the unfun stage of transitioning

foggy lodge
#

I know this is not competitive but no fucking way

shadow wind
#

What does it translate to?

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

growing pains

dapper crag
#
Ability: Reckless

This Pokemon's attacks with recoil or crash damage have their power multiplied by 1.2. Does not affect Struggle.

craggy dagger
#

it’ll pass soon…

chrome knot
#

uhm

#

yeah maybe when they eventually stop growing

mighty stump
chrome knot
#

o snap

craggy dagger
#

add on simple and now it’s +4 to SpA/Atk

chrome knot
#

do you think my chachas have chlorophyll and will have double the speed ..?