competitive_discussion

[polar nest]

oh

[rustic mountain]

[polar nest]

bro

my bag is almost empty

[cyan smelt]

Tree no longer mod

[polar nest]

i sold all my stuff for this team

[mighty stump]

Stuff is easy to get back, luckily.

[polar nest]

?

[mighty stump]

Money is like the tiniest issue for building teams

So many options to just build up funds

[polar nest]

TINIEST??

[mighty stump]

Yes? lol

[polar nest]

i spent like hours getting all the money i need

[mighty stump]

Pretty sure most players have millions easly

[polar nest]

😮

[mighty stump]

Im fairly confident i have enough to build like 6 teams over

[polar nest]

dang

well ut oh

[rustic mountain]

was never mod to begin w/

[polar nest]

i need an elec terrain setter

[rustic mountain]

yea i have mad pokedollars

item printer is goated

[polar nest]

the only legal elec surge mon is pinchurchin oh crap

[polar nest]

oh yea that thing

[rustic mountain]

shards/items u can sell it should get u everything u need. does require an initial bit of grinding tho

whether obtaining mats for the printer or jus standing there running it

[polar nest]

well ty

but the problem is what abt eletric terrain

my team needs it

[rustic mountain]

i mean thats why nobody really running pincurch rn

[polar nest]

i have a tourney in 8 days

[rustic mountain]

reg g?

[polar nest]

imma ask

[rustic mountain]

use sd for practice if thats the case

[polar nest]

yea

uh and the only prankster option is thundurus

but i do have one of those built alr

its reg f :c

[rustic mountain]

looks like u need a new team then

[solid frigate]

wheeve

[solid frigate]

Whimsicott:

[polar nest]

for electric terrain

[solid frigate]

then why not just smack a Miraidon-

[polar nest]

bcuz reg f

[solid frigate]

wait nvm i'm stupid

the thing is,Reg F,Electric Terrain is kinda,Well bad,cuz nobody can use it well,even Thunderus does not run that in its sets

(Mostly)

[polar nest]

yea

but i alr built it

and have a tourney in 9 days

[solid frigate]

Give me the team

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/344597a83710f6df

[bold geode]

You finished DLC?

[solid frigate]

I mean Iron Bundle does not need E Terrain and still here

[rustic mountain]

nope

[bold geode]

@undone sage slap the color back on

[atomic mural]

Bro what are these predictions

[bold geode]

THE DUCK IS GOING WILD

[pearl wind]

clefairy

[bold geode]

Tree
I've converted to shield dog

[timber falcon]

Porygon Stonks 📈

[atomic mural]

Ashton cox running chesnaut?

[timber falcon]

Also why everyone predicted tr

[atomic mural]

The stream said Ashton has chesnaut on his team sheet

[grizzled bronze]

euic

[bold geode]

Wtf does chesnaught even do?

[atomic mural]

Because trick room won EUIC

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 652: Chesnaught

Types

Grass/Fighting

Abilities

Overgrow, Bulletproof (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/107/122/74/75/64

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[timber falcon]

But won’t that mean some mf is gonna have a tr counter team and win

[atomic mural]

Idk but Ashton running it

[dapper crag]

Chesnaught's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Close Combat, Crunch, Cut, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Drain Punch, Dual Chop, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Feint, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Gyro Ball, Hammer Arm, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Metal Claw, Needle Arm, Payback, Pin Missile, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Retaliate, Return, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Shadow Claw, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Super Fang, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Vine Whip, Wood Hammer, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Round, Sludge Bomb, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Belly Drum, Block, Bulk Up, Coaching, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Grassy Terrain, Growl, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Leech Seed, Nature Power, Pain Split, Protect, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Spiky Shield, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Taunt, Toxic, Wide Guard, Work Up, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Chesnaught.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[pearl wind]

maybe something like kommo-o? dunno but it has a great design

[timber falcon]

Wide guard?

[solid frigate]

hmmmmm

[timber falcon]

I mean, offensively it’s gotta be body press

[solid frigate]

Chesnaught is Underrated

--Me, A Kalos Fan

[timber falcon]

But it does learn swords dance

I’m not a fan of it tbh

[solid frigate]

the Typing is bad,But the Moveset feels kinda ok

[next stump]

chesnaught at EUIC was belly drum/spiky shield/grassy glide/drain punch

anti-incin tech with tera fire

[solid frigate]

Huh???

wait did i miss something

[bold geode]

YOTAM IN 5TH RN

[timber falcon]

Didn’t even think of belly drum

Have I missed a match or smth

Or is it not streamed those ones

And there’s tatsudozo

Wait, dragonite can run AV?

I thought it’s always banded no?

[atomic mural]

No trick room is crazy

[grizzled bronze]

fast luna?

[atomic mural]

Max speed max attack ursaluna 💪

[bold geode]

This gotta be Turboluna

[next stump]

STEPHEN ON STREAM

THE HOMIE LETS GO

[solid frigate]

hmmmmmm

[bold geode]

Rare appearance of Turboluna
Never really see it from Regular variant

[grizzled bronze]

lorb, band, and av are all viable options

[timber falcon]

Oh ok I always assumed band

[near crag]

Hey, did anyone do the calcs for av dnite, yet?

[solid frigate]

AV for Bulk,Lorb andd Band for Offense

[timber falcon]

Isn’t that normally with blood moon?

[solid frigate]

18% for Dragonite AV in Pikalytics

[grizzled bronze]

seeing nicknames is so weird lol

[bold geode]

Yeah
But rarely you see regular

[timber falcon]

Interesting set

[near crag]

It's not as common, but it seems more optimal in a restricted format, imo

[timber falcon]

Jabu-Jabu bouta cook

[grizzled bronze]

mfw imaginary sash

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

hahah it seems solid i havent played reg g in almost a week tho lmao

[grizzled bronze]

huh

[bold geode]

It is fucking
Awesome
I love it, I'm a stan I will be honest

[timber falcon]

What happened?

[grizzled bronze]

what the fuck 😭

is it the nicknames 😭

[timber falcon]

Technical difficulties?

[atomic mural]

Some kind of technical difficulty

[foggy lodge]

What?

[atomic mural]

Don’t know what was wrong tho

[timber falcon]

Jabu-Jabu was gonna cook man

[grizzled bronze]

poor jabu-jabu

[timber falcon]

Disappointed

[bold geode]

Tech difficulties? I hope they don't sudden death

[rustic mountain]

i dont mind it getting some shine after zacian dominance in gen 8

[bold geode]

Yeah Zama Ting P2 good, but I just slapped it on Shell Balance and got top 500 last night

[timber falcon]

All I can think of is minions when they say Orlando

[atomic mural]

I want to strangle all minions to death

[timber falcon]

What? 😭

[grizzled bronze]

wow

[atomic mural]

Anyway what do you guys think Wolfeys running

[timber falcon]

Incin

I’m gonna guess he might put a twist, it’d be funny if it was perish trap lol

[bold geode]

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it just brought his EUIC team

He's here with 3hrs of sleep

[timber falcon]

What’s his EUIC team?

[foggy lodge]

I just remember the focus sash Tornadus

[bold geode]

It was like iirc
Incin/Sash Torn/Urshifu Scarf Rapid/Amoongus/Landorus I/Mane

[atomic mural]

Perish trap with incin and urshifu instead of palafin and arcanine

[bold geode]

It was a variant of rain

[timber falcon]

So balance

[bold geode]

Honestly I wish Palafin wasn't a ghost of its former self rn
Incin/Palafin/Amoongus would've fucked

But alas
It ass
Plus Raging Bolt is good

[atomic mural]

I think it pairs better with incin because they both like switching out

[polar nest]

ok yea this iron moth team is really bad in reg f

[timber falcon]

Wouldnt amoongus just rage powder

[polar nest]

i thought reg g was april 1st but its may 1st

[atomic mural]

You April fooled yourself

[polar nest]

yea lol

so

i have reg f tourney in 9 days

i would rather not get destroyed

[timber falcon]

Ok so the game is restarting

[atomic mural]

Nice

[timber falcon]

I wonder what even happened

[grizzled bronze]

what even happened

there was like no issues?

[bold geode]

Yeah but Palafin ain't hitting Raging Bolt for much

[timber falcon]

True it’s really not gonna do shit to it

From experience

[solid frigate]

Palafin fall into the Abyss already so yeah

[pearl wind]

maybe because the nicknames were available onscreen? i dont have the stream on right now so i dont know if that was the issue

[timber falcon]

I’ll revisit it once reg G is officially out

[charred saddle]

palafin tera ice and use ice spinner!!

boom

[timber falcon]

Are nicknames really and problem?

[grizzled bronze]

imagine restarting a whole game just to disable nicknames 😭

[polar nest]

i have this

https://pokepast.es/ad2f55deb3555b02

[pearl wind]

i dont know

[timber falcon]

I was told not to use Tera ice

Match back up

[charred saddle]

its a sarcasm

[grizzled bronze]

ok nicknames disabled now

[timber falcon]

Oh

[bold geode]

Honestly if that OHKOs I'd be surprised

[rustic mountain]

nice seems like a good core

[timber falcon]

LOL IT WAS THE NICKNAMES

[grizzled bronze]

no more jabu-jabu and fish action

[bold geode]

I DMed you funny calc

[timber falcon]

Jabu-Jabu back in action

[grizzled bronze]

i hope that's not the main reason

[bold geode]

Jabu-Jabu pog

[timber falcon]

Cause they said “technical” difficulties but no one disconnected, looks more like they were told to stop the match and stable nicknames

[pearl wind]

once jabu-jabu burst onto the scene

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2102605985

This battle is so close-

[grizzled bronze]

kinda weird they had to restart a whole match bc of the nicknames but it is what it is i guess

[bold geode]

Is Jabu-Jabu inappropriate?

[timber falcon]

Probably not

[foggy lodge]

waos

[timber falcon]

It means “splashing water “

[grizzled bronze]

they also put nicknames on the teamsheets no? correct me if im wrong

[bold geode]

Possibly?

[timber falcon]

NOOO JABU JABU

[grizzled bronze]

fuck

[bold geode]

I've put nicknames on teamlists for Limitless before

[polar nest]

i = scewed

[timber falcon]

WHAT IS THAT OFFENCE

Good lord

Was it a crit?

[solid frigate]

told ya that Moth is bad

but what team would you make next,need help?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 978: Tatsugiri

Types

Dragon/Water

Abilities

Commander, Storm Drain (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/50/60/120/95/82

Total

475

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[timber falcon]

Why is tatsu running sitrus

[polar nest]

well yes i do need some help please and its just bad in reg f

[solid frigate]

4% use it

[polar nest]

i thought reg g started on april first

[timber falcon]

But why

[polar nest]

so i do have this

[timber falcon]

Showdown

It’s on showdown

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 994: Iron Moth

Types

Fire/Poison

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/70/60/140/110/110

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[charred saddle]

huh

choice band watershifu

[polar nest]

yea ik

https://pokepast.es/561e3fa9baff3150

[grizzled bronze]

140 spa but it's washed in reg f 😔

[polar nest]

i have this rain team

[polar nest]

waiting for reg g

[timber falcon]

Hits umfathomably hard

[charred saddle]

yeah i can see

[polar nest]

when miraidon comes

[timber falcon]

Just make a team on showdown

[charred saddle]

+2 def dondozo getting hit 1/3 with CC kek

[grizzled bronze]

yeah you can already test it on showdown

[polar nest]

but i have a reg f tourney soon

[timber falcon]

U can test and prep

[polar nest]

and need a team

[grizzled bronze]

oh for a tourney

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/de06e407695b35f7

why does it looks similar to mine-

[timber falcon]

Then don’t use moth

[polar nest]

not planning to

[upbeat quail]

If I were to run taunt on my Rillaboom, how much speed should I invest?

[polar nest]

i have my rain team

[polar nest]

here

[solid frigate]

you can test against my team

[polar nest]

*here

[polar nest]

ok sure

username?

[solid frigate]

MorrisPXG456

[polar nest]

ok

[grizzled bronze]

no more jabu-jabu

[timber falcon]

Nah let him stall

[solid frigate]

lol

[timber falcon]

Jabu fought well

[grizzled bronze]

huh

[polar nest]

welp

[charred saddle]

triple ko kek

[timber falcon]

Is it gonna be eq here?

[solid frigate]

the teams EVs need change

[polar nest]

ok

[timber falcon]

It’s overpon

LOL

[foggy lodge]

Ok what happened here

Pelipper>>> Politoed

[timber falcon]

Does rajan win this btw

[polar nest]

no

[timber falcon]

He’s right tbh

[polar nest]

Politoed

[timber falcon]

Pelliper is better in most cases

[solid frigate]

Yes,Pelipper is the GOAT of Rain

(Besides Kyogre)

[polar nest]

but phrog

[charred saddle]

no

[foggy lodge]

Phrog fell off

[timber falcon]

Pon has high horse power

[grizzled bronze]

gouging win no way

[polar nest]

but phrooog

[solid frigate]

I literally did not bring Greninja or Any Frog into VGC because of that

[timber falcon]

Stopping tantrum I mean

[charred saddle]

non STAB then bulwark pressure

[polar nest]

😦

[charred saddle]

oh nvm its fire anyway

[polar nest]

welp

[charred saddle]

but like non STAB, gonna need crit + 1 more hit

[polar nest]

time to spend like 4 hours ev training my pelipper

[charred saddle]

swipe to further lower stomp

[solid frigate]

Pelipper @ Focus Sash
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hurricane
• Wide Guard
• Tailwind
• Weather Ball

[timber falcon]

True, and there’s still a Tera

[foggy lodge]

Test it in showdown first

[polar nest]

i do have one built execpt evs

[timber falcon]

What?

[foggy lodge]

Never train Pokémon in-game unless you are completely sure you want it that way

[charred saddle]

u see how little it does

[grizzled bronze]

yeah ggs

[polar nest]

how long it takes

[charred saddle]

non stab move isnt that crazy

[solid frigate]

like at least 10-20 Minutes

[timber falcon]

Just buy vitamins

[charred saddle]

especially gouging is almost like a tank

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1020: Gouging Fire

Types

Fire/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/115/121/65/93/91

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[polar nest]

i dont quite understand how yall get millions

[timber falcon]

Gouging takes the W here I guess

[charred saddle]

105 121

[polar nest]

they expensive

[grizzled bronze]

god that's bulky as hell

[timber falcon]

Get money

[polar nest]

it takes a long time to do that

[timber falcon]

Just bet at the pokelotto

[solid frigate]

oh yeah my team before i add Raging Bolt has Meowscarada

[polar nest]

tf is that

[timber falcon]

Do u have dlc?

[polar nest]

yes

[timber falcon]

Look it up on yt

[grizzled bronze]

indigo disk upgrade

[foggy lodge]

Or do the ace academy tournament

[polar nest]

da hard

[timber falcon]

This takes way too long

[solid frigate]

Triple Axel Meowscarada : >

[foggy lodge]

Gholdengo + coin amulet spaming Make it rain and Hisuian Zoroark with the move that doubles money

[grizzled bronze]

item printer gives way more tho, and it isn't consistent post dlc

[foggy lodge]

I know but the printer is a bit inconsistent

[polar nest]

oh that item thingy gives money?

[foggy lodge]

Or i'm just unlucky

[timber falcon]

It’s not ?

[grizzled bronze]

so is ace academy

[timber falcon]

Just sell ur items after pokelotto lol

[polar nest]

oh

[timber falcon]

It’s gives hundreds

[polar nest]

only hundreds

[timber falcon]

Of items

[grizzled bronze]

you can sell a lot of stuff from lotto like patches and shit

[polar nest]

o

ok

[foggy lodge]

I know but i'm lazy to farm BBQs 😭😭

[timber falcon]

Mhm, and gain apriballs

[timber falcon]

Union circle

[grizzled bronze]

apriballs are so easy to get now bc of the new discovery

[solid frigate]

mhm

[polar nest]

so i have pelipper

[solid frigate]

Profit+Profit

[grizzled bronze]

apriballs value going down fr

[polar nest]

is the rest of the team good?

[solid frigate]

Fr fr

[timber falcon]

It’s a dick move, but you CAN go afk in a union circle and let them do all the work lol

[solid frigate]

its good

[grizzled bronze]

do not do that please

[timber falcon]

I won’t, but I think I some definitely do

[polar nest]

ok

[solid frigate]

Weed Cat (Meowscarada) @ Life Orb
Ability: Overgrow
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Flower Trick
• Sucker Punch
• Triple Axel
• Brick Break

I used to run This Meowscarada before i run Raging Bolt-

And yes i did not change it into Protean and Choice Band

[charred saddle]

or you can just not be an ass

[foggy lodge]

Nah i prefer the other option

[grizzled bronze]

one session of bbq grinding is enough for days i think

[timber falcon]

It is

[timber falcon]

I never said it was me dw lol

[polar nest]

k i bought it

oh i need tm materials?

i sold them all cuz i wanted money

[grizzled bronze]

yeah lol

[polar nest]

so, go grind bp and commit mass murder?

[timber falcon]

Yes

[polar nest]

ok

[foggy lodge]

Ah also in this tournament with only Hoenn Pokémon

I ended in 7-3

Not bad

[timber falcon]

Very nice

[charred saddle]

kinda ass position for rajan

[timber falcon]

I would’ve kept in shifu tbh

But that might be a bad move so ima see how the match goes

[charred saddle]

big tera

[foggy lodge]

What is that damage

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 978: Tatsugiri

Types

Dragon/Water

Abilities

Commander, Storm Drain (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/50/60/120/95/82

Total

475

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[charred saddle]

tatsu is frail as shit tho so im not surprise

[foggy lodge]

Oh it explains it

[timber falcon]

LOL I’m wathcing it behind by 1 min

Just realised

[pearl wind]

DAMN

[charred saddle]

easy win for gouging, can just spam muddy water and breaking swipe

[grizzled bronze]

oh i think the technical issue earlier was no tera option

[timber falcon]

Oh

[charred saddle]

oh damn doesnt die kek

i mean now its choicelocked

sucker easy, then luna wil die to burn

[timber falcon]

Rajan loses

[charred saddle]

shifu can only get 1 ko

[solid frigate]

which one

[timber falcon]

And pao is Tera ghost right?

Nvm Tera is burned I’m blind

[charred saddle]

[foggy lodge]

It's from another server

6-0 lol

[charred saddle]

sucker then protect

[grizzled bronze]

lol

[charred saddle]

sash will guarantee tto live

[solid frigate]

thats-

[timber falcon]

No way

[foggy lodge]

why

[grizzled bronze]

that why it took so long probably

[timber falcon]

That’s hilarious

[foggy lodge]

TPC is fascinating

[charred saddle]

gouging fire carries the game holy hell

the pressure is crazy

[pallid hare]

Paradox entei go brr

[timber falcon]

Love how it was always dozo first

I may hate going against it, but I’m all for it when it’s not on my opponents team

[solid frigate]

wait Tatsu Dozo still exists?

[timber falcon]

It just won a match

[solid frigate]

huh

[timber falcon]

Welp ima have to end my stream watching, got a physics test on monday and haven’t touched anything educational for a week and a bit

Bye bye

[solid frigate]

i need to do exam as well,I'll lurk

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/fe26967734b33e9d bonk

oops archaludon is tera electric

not steel

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-stalker-the-simpsons-bush-reverse-gif-11643846

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[polar nest]

wut

[grizzled bronze]

tera elec arch is bait imo

[solid frigate]

hoi Drago

[polar nest]

?

[grizzled bronze]

you're still weak to lando

[solid frigate]

just use Tera Fairy or Tera Grass

[polar nest]

OK

[solid frigate]

Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass / Fairy
EVs: 220 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Electro Shot
• Dragon Pulse
• Body Press
• Flash Cannon

[grizzled bronze]

i mean ground types in general

[molten oasis]

Hi

[polar nest]

hi

i also sold all my tera shards

[solid frigate]

why-

[grizzled bronze]

pain

[polar nest]

for money

for vitamins

bcuz i didnt know abt the printer

[grizzled bronze]

dw printer gives you a lot of shards anyway

[polar nest]

o

noice

oh dang

and thats 10 items

holy

i got an ability patch

i need this

[charred saddle]

why he dancing

[grizzled bronze]

he vibing

[charred saddle]

this man is fucking crazy for 2 SD

[solid frigate]

2 Swords Dance wha-

[molten oasis]

How’s the regional going

[mighty stump]

shoulda thunderclapped the OGerpon

[charred saddle]

someone sword danced twice with firepon and then tera

[molten oasis]

+5 firepon

[charred saddle]

+5 now

[solid frigate]

+5 wha

[molten oasis]

Scary

[solid frigate]

yep that Kills Almost Everything

[charred saddle]

ohkoes full health raging bolt

[mighty stump]

I mean

Are you surprised

[charred saddle]

no

[molten oasis]

It’s +5 Tera boosted

[charred saddle]

balls of steel

[molten oasis]

It’s gonna kill lol

[solid frigate]

Everyone is going to die without a focus Sash

[molten oasis]

Yuh

[solid frigate]

wait lemme check

[mighty stump]

those frame drops lmaoo

[molten oasis]

Well anyway

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[kindred cypress]

My mans adam playing with friends rn

[solid frigate]

+5 252 Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 190-224 (100 - 117.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Yep-

[charred saddle]

dude for some reason finding adam to ~~win ~~this after the crazy +5 is funny

[mighty stump]

nice Zhe Zhang

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAH

[solid frigate]

I think the only thing that can tank it is Multiscale Dragonite?

+5 252 Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 117-138 (70.4 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Oh wow

[mighty stump]

OOF

Adam not vibing anymore lul

[charred saddle]

damn

the crit too

no more dance

[mighty stump]

Crit mattered

[rustic mountain]

so joever

[charred saddle]

another crit

[mighty stump]

Lolwut

Raging Bolt paper

[charred saddle]

huh

[dull ibex]

Hi

[kindred cypress]

My man went out with style

[bold geode]

Orlando Day 1 usage, not that it's as big

[atomic mural]

is there a good kyurem white set

(ev spread)

[bold geode]

Also Tofu are a little more people using the shroom or were they just hiding in mid to high ladder?

[novel python]

oh my god i accientally almost wonder traded my competetively built flutter mane

[mighty stump]

Getting another takes like

[timber falcon]

just classic meta mons i see

[novel python]

i do not wanna ev train again bruh 😭

or buy another choice specs those things expensive

[mighty stump]

Lol

Sounds like someone has limited funds

[novel python]

i got 400k 😔

[mighty stump]

oof

[charred saddle]

go raid

some raids being held here do drops ability patches

just keep an eye out.
most AP dropped from raids here are like 3
which gets you almost 400k in under 5 minutes

ez farm

[bold geode]

No fire moves on Toler's Incin

[chrome knot]

toler vs olivia lore

[bold geode]

Spinny

[chrome knot]

she did spin lmfao

[timber falcon]

what moves does incin leave behind for taunt/will-o-wisp

[chrome knot]

flare blitz

[molten oasis]

knock off

[timber falcon]

oh i thought knock

[bold geode]

It has Fake Out/Parting/Helping Hand/Knock Off

[molten oasis]

i do not know of poeple dropping flare blitz rn

[chrome knot]

fake out, parting shot, knock off, will o wisp

[timber falcon]

i was thinking of taunt/blitz/parting/FO

[molten oasis]

that works

[timber falcon]

cause its on a sun team id like to keep blitz

[bold geode]

Wait was Helping Hand stream error?

[chrome knot]

no i just meant what to drop for will o wisp

[timber falcon]

oh o#

[bold geode]

Oh

[molten oasis]

you drop knock off usually

you need flare blitz for damage

[bold geode]

Yeah ngl I've had the thought of dropping Blitz but I usually wouldn't

[timber falcon]

i think ill drop knock then

[chrome knot]

this why the serious players dont listen to you nolie

[molten oasis]

wtf did i do

[bold geode]

That was kinda rude ngl

[molten oasis]

you too

[timber falcon]

i mean, it does run blitz for damage no?

[molten oasis]

I thought we were chill ig not

[foggy lodge]

Why the Urshifu doesn't has Close combat??

[chrome knot]

the ability to take items out of the game is huge especially on a pokemon that doesn’t mind not doing damage

[molten oasis]

the ability to do damage also matters

[foggy lodge]

You can drop Flare Blitz for Will o wisp

[timber falcon]

i guess thats true, but this specific incin is designed to be able to hit unexpectedly hard

[molten oasis]

90% sure incin pretty much always runs flare blitz

[timber falcon]

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 108 Def / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
Impish Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Taunt
• Parting Shot
• Fake Out

[bold geode]

Yeah it's just something that people usually don't do
Usually people drop Knock Off for Wisp
It's common lol
Flare ain't a bad idea either but yeah usually they drop Knock Off

[molten oasis]

looks good OTOT

[bold geode]

It's usually just up to preference

[torn parrot]

i didnt know the cat has crash

[bold geode]

Incin got Crash?

[torn parrot]

i just checked yeah

[dapper crag]

Incineroar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Bind, Bite, Blaze Kick, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Covet, Cross Chop, Crunch, Darkest Lariat, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dual Chop, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Heat Crash, Iron Head, Knock Off, Lash Out, Leech Life, Lick, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Outrage, Pay Day, Power Trip, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thrash, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Blast Burn, Burning Jealousy, Dark Pulse, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Snarl, Snore, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Confide, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Growl, Helping Hand, Leer, Nasty Plot, Parting Shot, Protect, Quash, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Incineroar.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

interesting

[bold geode]

Why it got that

[molten oasis]

idk

[timber falcon]

those are ALOT of moves

[molten oasis]

yea incin's physical movepool is fat

[timber falcon]

it even has eq

[torn parrot]

hopefully it gets more next gen

(:

[molten oasis]

[atomic portal]

needs wg

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/9b1754684a75dc03 any ideas for next mons? i think flutter is a must

[molten oasis]

flutter and bolt or wake

i like wake cuz water coverage is super nice in the sun

[timber falcon]

i might use specs icywind flutter

i dont like wake tbh

[molten oasis]

thats fine, then go bolt

do you not like wake as a mon or aesthetically?

[timber falcon]

for competetive use

its speed is extremely awkward for me

[molten oasis]

sorry thats what i meant as a mon

its 109 speed how is it awkward?

[timber falcon]

cause its oither stats dont seem to make up for it imo

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1009: Walking Wake

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

99/83/91/125/83/109

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

its supposed to be a fast hard hitting specail attacker

[timber falcon]

uve tried use it many times but i find it incosistent, probs my skill issue but it is what it is

[molten oasis]

no thats fair just kinda wanted to know the reasoning

anyway go bolt

[timber falcon]

now, i need to find and MU for landotorn

and a second sun setter

[molten oasis]

cough wake

[timber falcon]

also which set

[timber falcon]

i do think icy-wind flutter would work

cause as i need a second setter, ill be using torn with it

[molten oasis]

you dont have the speed control to stop lando from killing/dealing big damage first

[timber falcon]

torn

[molten oasis]

as you dont outspeed with booster flutter after tw

oh you have torn, wake literally rolls that mu then

[timber falcon]

sorry if i sound stupid but what do you mean by roll

[foggy lodge]

It's hard

[torn parrot]

i think wake is pretty great

[foggy lodge]

It's bulky but not that bulky

Is fast but not that fast

[timber falcon]

mhm

[foggy lodge]

It has a good special attack but not a great special attack

I've seen two sets

[timber falcon]

mhm thats what i think

[foggy lodge]

One with AV and one with LO

[timber falcon]

i see LO most common

[torn parrot]

its more fun when its special atatck boosting proto

[molten oasis]

i think lorb is the way to go

[torn parrot]

that might not be

[molten oasis]

with speed control i feel more comfortable to go spA boost

[torn parrot]

optimal in this format tho

[molten oasis]

then you just nuke things

[torn parrot]

oh yeah

[molten oasis]

its other item options are usually taken tho

[timber falcon]

ive finsihed the general team idea

[torn parrot]

thats a good point you can go tailwind or something then its fine to like go specail attack boost proto

did you know you can go timid max max and itll boost your special attack

[timber falcon]

any sets for specs flutter? no idea what to do for bulk

[foggy lodge]

I'd go for the 160 HP in Flutter

[timber falcon]

and for def?

[foggy lodge]

I think i have the set

Wait a second

[molten oasis]

yea

well i think they are tied when it comes to stats

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/9e92551d74f13a56

Is this Set good?

i built it for someone who wants to try

[molten oasis]

yea if you go 252 timid and 252 spA theyre the same stat

[timber falcon]

whats happening with that ursh

[molten oasis]

177

[torn parrot]

ye
so the the special attack is prioritized

[molten oasis]

idt thats how that works

[solid frigate]

welp-

[timber falcon]

ursh has these random defence evs

[molten oasis]

isnt it just random?

[torn parrot]

no its always special atatck i tested

it gets prioitized top to bottom i beleive

[molten oasis]

interesting, ill keep that in mind

[solid frigate]

its still the first Version,and they used the urshifu and won 2 sets today

[timber falcon]

gouging wants more hp

[timber falcon]

i know but evs seem wasted

[solid frigate]

I will tell them to use Different EVs later when i gonna train him next lesson

[timber falcon]

it doesnt outsoeed max timid caly-s

[molten oasis]

tera fairy on gouging fire

i think the ev spread is fine im just not sure what its doing, id rather hp dump

[timber falcon]

zacian really wants prot right?

[molten oasis]

i see you stole my zacian spread

[foggy lodge]

Flutter Mane @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 76 Def / 156 SpA / 4 SpD / 36 Spe
Timid Nature

[timber falcon]

can sd zac run without prot

[solid frigate]

Kek

I mean my friend wants to try Zacian so i give your stuff lol

[timber falcon]

thanks

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[molten oasis]

uhhhh, im not sure if id go kingambit and zacian on the same team

just personally

i hate the weakness overlap on the team rn

[molten oasis]

no its fine idc

i share my spreads for you guys to use

[timber falcon]

i might start running tera normal flutter tbh

[solid frigate]

Kingambit is kinda Pressuring Incineroar players cuz Defiant,but yeah it depends

[torn parrot]

guys i wanna share my spread with you

[solid frigate]

wot-

[timber falcon]

lets see

[foggy lodge]

I built a similar team and i can't fine a good glue for the team to play under TR

[molten oasis]

incin isnt pressured by gambit

[timber falcon]

caly-s shenanigans

[molten oasis]

amoonguss

[torn parrot]

Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

dont tell anybody tho

its a super secret spread

[foggy lodge]

It would be triple grass type

[timber falcon]

those calcs must be insane

[molten oasis]

if you want a defiant mon to fight incin you run gapdos

[solid frigate]

fair

[molten oasis]

or annihilape

[molten oasis]

can i see a paste?

[solid frigate]

I'll tell them later

[foggy lodge]

Empoleon🔥

[torn parrot]

you know it

[solid frigate]

underrated

[timber falcon]

ok i have 2 quastions left, does bolt run AV in reg G, and how do i get venasuar to work lol

[molten oasis]

i wouldnt run empoleon as a tr answer, its a very ok answer to incin

[torn parrot]

iv found chloro mons make great supports in g

[molten oasis]

bolt can run av yes

[timber falcon]

drago u still have stormclaw spread?

[timber falcon]

or storm something

[molten oasis]

and venuaur runs sleep powder leaf strom/energy ball sludge bomb and protect with life orb or sash

[timber falcon]

ok thanks

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1713032973:R>.

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/811f108beed97955

[molten oasis]

Stormclaw (Raging Bolt) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 116 HP / 92 Def / 196 SpA / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk

• Thunderbolt
• Thunderclap
• Draco Meteor
• Snarl

[foggy lodge]

This is the Zacian team

[molten oasis]

idt the speed matters anymore lol

[torn parrot]

that one guy who won that tournament with jumpluff tailwind next to pivot torkoal
that sounds pretty terrible on paper

so it stands to reason that groudon or koraidon + jumpluff would be just a better version

[molten oasis]

if you want an alternative of the spread has 76 speed

and 124 spA

[molten oasis]

maybe yea

[molten oasis]

what are the evs on zacian for?

also im gonna guess the tr mu youre struggling with is with caly ice?

[timber falcon]

Venusaur @ Focus Sash
Ability: Chlorophyll
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Energy Ball
• Sludge Bomb
• Sleep Powder
• Protect

[foggy lodge]

I haven't calc anything

[timber falcon]

got this for venasuar

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[molten oasis]

hmm

if you get into a position with wellspring and zacian on the field at the same time you can probably handle it

as you can redirect high horse from zac

and let it set up

if its tera fire you bonk it if its water you horn leech, and you can bring rilla in the back

it is a hard mu so your positioning matters a lot

you need to try to prevent it from snowballing

[solid frigate]

i was hearing someone said Solar Beam and when i saw The chat i saw Venusaur lol-

[timber falcon]

oh i can run that actually

[molten oasis]

i think you bring zacian wellspring rilla and then flutter or lando depending on the rest of the members

[timber falcon]

can venasuar run solar beam or is that too inconsistent

[molten oasis]

if they have fo prssure leading flutter into fari (in that mu) helps to prevent tr from going up

into a lead against wellspring/icerex go straight for set up on zacian

then bring either fo pressure or your own redirection

i think this team has what it takes to handle it

[molten oasis]

just go leaf storm, you can try it out but idk how good itll be especially with the amount of weather control rn

[timber falcon]

if not solar id probably stick with energy ball for consistency

[molten oasis]

@foggy lodge thats what ive done with those members as i played with a team similar to that, i think you can beat it

sun looks worse mu wise tbh

[solid frigate]

POV:If Xerneas in Gen 9 be like

[molten oasis]

also for evs Athena (Zacian-Crowned) @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 156 HP / 124 Atk / 60 Def / 4 SpD / 164 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Play Rough
• Behemoth Blade
• Swords Dance
• Protect

you eat a precipice blades outspeed bundle then attack dump

on swords dance you dont need much attack invest

[molten oasis]

i dont get it

[timber falcon]

clean 4-0 love to see it

bolt helps my rain MU so much

[molten oasis]

anyway back to lurking

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[solid frigate]

Nice

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-bush-hide-bye-gif-16150806

[atomic mural]

PERRIN REFERENCE

[solid frigate]

huh

[smoky hawk]

Ah, we're back in Orlando today

[atomic mural]

Bro Joshua Lorcy is not okay bro

Why does he look so lost lmao

[smoky hawk]

Damn one of the commentators just criticized a player on stream

He said their strategy was untenable because they don't have answers for the ogerpon

[timber falcon]

I mean that’s a fair peace of criticism, ogerpon is a common mon

[solid frigate]

Especially Wellspring

[timber falcon]

Hm

[solid frigate]

yeah it checks Urshifu well

not absurd but still its good enough

[warped mason]

What do u guys think about sinistcha on a kyogre team?

[solid frigate]

the plan?

[warped mason]

Mainly as redirecter and healer

Can also dish out the damage too

[solid frigate]

i could see this work but Ogerpon still is a threat to Kyogre

[warped mason]

Yea i'd probably go into archaludon

I just trying to jump through hoops to not play amoongus

And my kyogre is tera grass if I need protection

[solid frigate]

i can see it happing

With Amoongus and Sinsischa Threaten Raging Bolt

[atomic mural]

Wolfe is on 3 hours of sleep and is still 6-0

[warped mason]

Anyone got a good set for sinischa?

Thinking max spdf and hp

[solid frigate]

World Champ Difference

He's Adaptibility on Teams is insane

[solid frigate]

Pretty sure Cybertron did one

[warped mason]

I'll check it out

[timber falcon]

i think ive realised i cant function teams that main sun

i just cant do it

[kindred cypress]

You expected anything less from the king?

[foggy lodge]

Great

Sinistcha is underrated but lately it has been getting some results

It's tanky, can set up TR as speed control against fast Pokémon, can redirect, heal, and is the best grass type special attacker

[solid frigate]

i played so badly and i got knocked back to 1200+

[livid vine]

Justin and Wolfe both have friends so its a pretty close match

[dawn crown]

Would solar beam or synthesis amoongus work on a sun team

[solid frigate]

Amoonguss is always a support Mon

so not really

[crystal pecan]

Is this a good char set

But with life orb

[warped mason]

Appreciate it

[solid frigate]

i don't think so-

but you can try

[crystal pecan]

I mean, what's wrong with it?

To me it looks viable atleast

[solid frigate]

firstly,what Tera and Charizard feels pressured so much

[warped mason]

Assuming thats gen 7 ou its fine

[solid frigate]

yeah

[crystal pecan]

Well I just want a genuinely strong one cause I wanna do a living dex with competitive mons

[warped mason]

Thats the standard gen 7 ou zard x set

[solid frigate]

there are other strong fire types

[warped mason]

I mean, its a d dance sweeper

Its good

[crystal pecan]

I'd give it life orb for now

[warped mason]

Nah, life orb zard is awful

[solid frigate]

agree

[warped mason]

Its either zard x or y

[crystal pecan]

Then what would be best on this set besides a mega

Cause you can't get them in sword nd shield

[solid frigate]

Zard Y is the better of the 2

Air Slash for SWSH turns into Max Airstream

[warped mason]

Please specify the format

Cus sword and shield use is g max charizard

[solid frigate]

G-Max Solar Power

[warped mason]

^

[crystal pecan]

Ooh, yeah I suppose this would be used in sword and shield for now anyways

[solid frigate]

gen 6-8 is the only time Zard is verg good

[crystal pecan]

I just don't like how therye constantly adding new gimmicks and making you change your zard

[solid frigate]

lemme show the set maybe

[crystal pecan]

I mean, this isn't viable without mega?

[warped mason]

Not at all

[crystal pecan]

Oh

[warped mason]

Lose out on tough claws, increased attack stat and stab dragon

[solid frigate]

Fire Blast,Air Slash,Solar Beam and Protect?

for G-Max Zard

[warped mason]

For vgc that sounds fine

[crystal pecan]

Yeah that works what about nature and evs tho

[solid frigate]

yeah i never use zard because the Hatred of it

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-stalker-the-simpsons-bush-reverse-gif-11643846

[crystal pecan]

Thank you for your help I just want to have a yk competitive shiny living dex but I'm now realising ittl constantly change with the meta😭

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[warped mason]

No worries

[crystal pecan]

So max speed and special for evs?

[solid frigate]

think so

[crystal pecan]

I'm not too sure about item maybe heavy boots?

[solid frigate]

Boots is useless in VGC

Especially in SWSH where there is no Glimmora

and Steelspike does not affect Charizard cuz its a Flying type

i mean the spike part

[crystal pecan]

I mean, its almost impossible to make a shiny living dex that's competitive it sounds with how much the meta changes

[crystal pecan]

What item would you reccomend?

[solid frigate]

Charizard-Gmax @ Life Orb / Safety Goggles
Ability: Solar Power
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Heat Wave/Blast Burn
• Hurricane/Air Slash
• Protect
• Solar Beam/Scorching sands

[crystal pecan]

Thanks I'll just do that for now

[solid frigate]

can't belive i am making my most hated Pokemon's Set

[crystal pecan]

If I may ask why do you hate it

It's a cool mon

[solid frigate]

its just feels Overrated and design wise is bland,i understand flying lizard is cool,but now we have loads of Flying lizards that are actually dragon types

sure Greninja is overrated too but at least the dark type aspect fits the Ninja asethtic well(even tho dark types are consider to be evil type)

[crystal pecan]

I see

I'm only doing this for my living dex so you know

[solid frigate]

yeah

[crystal pecan]

Wanna make a competitive one, sure most mons will be outdated and not the best but they can easily be updated with time

[solid frigate]

plus Greninja in Gen 6 only rely on Protean to be successful in VGC,Charizard needs the Mega and G-Max

[crystal pecan]

I think Gyrados is underrated but idk

[solid frigate]

Gyarados is good in The Series 1 is SV

because its one of the Intimidate mons (Arcanine is also one of them) to be in SV that is good enough

Also Gyarados is suprisingly Tanky

[crystal pecan]

I don't think this'll be too bad in the later gens even

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 130: Gyarados

Types

Water/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Moxie (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/125/79/60/100/81

Total

540

Other Formes

Gyarados-Mega

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[solid frigate]

yeah Gyarados is quite Tanky

and since Intimidate drops exists,Gyarados can be in the field for long enough

[solid frigate]

depends on the gimmick on gen 10

[crystal pecan]

Out of all the three gimmicks megas dynamix and uuh tera which do you thinks worst

I think tera

[solid frigate]

actually even as a Gen 6 fan,i kinda don't Like Megas

Limited Distribution, the ones that get mostly are strong and Fan favourites

which makes it hard to fight them

and heck when primals and Mega Rayquaza are into the mix,its chaotic

Terastalisation is the best due to flexibility and versatile for every Pokemon

Dynamax is second best in my Opinion

[crystal pecan]

I have just one more question

How's the Battle tower ranking work

[solid frigate]

Pokemon Sword and Shield Battle Tower ranks explained
Poke Ball Tier: Ranks 4-6. Great Ball Tier: Ranks 7-9. Ultra Ball Tier: Rank 10. Master Ball Tier: Highest rank

Basically the same as SV

[crystal pecan]

So I want master for max rewards

[solid frigate]

basically,and right now is SWSH currently still in Series 12

Aka Restrict Format

[crystal pecan]

Well if I wanna get a competitive living dex I'll need the tower

[solid frigate]

is there any mons you want to be in this time

[crystal pecan]

Nah after this I'm gonna go for the remaining two charmanders then bulbasaur

[bold geode]

Maushold in day 2?

[solid frigate]

oh-

[solid frigate]

It's still Exists oh god the mouse

[crystal pecan]

?

[bold geode]

Funny mouse moments

AYO LEN TALKED ABOUT ZACIAN AND ZAMAZENTA

Pog Zamazenta type shit

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta GOATED

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jotaro-kujo-jojos-gif-7297252

[solid frigate]

Zacian not so much but still i have new found respect for Zacian

I'm gonna Make some notes on my Reg F Team

[bold geode]

It is

[solid frigate]

My Terapagos:

[bold geode]

Hehehe funny

[solid frigate]

My Terapagos is dead against it

[bold geode]

Funny

[solid frigate]

+1 4 Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar: 152-182 (59.6 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

even with that amount of Defense its still 2HKO

[bold geode]

Is that with Tera Shell in account?

[solid frigate]

no

+1 4 Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 38-45 (20 - 23.6%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

With Tera Shell

[bold geode]

Well guess what bud
I got more defense than that

[solid frigate]

thats why i am so screwed against it

Terapagos MU weak against is Mostly Koraidon and Zamazenta

[bold geode]

Hehehehe
Fake Out cycle + Zama funny AF

[solid frigate]

Protect moment

[bold geode]

Oh Tim Edwards on stream

[warped mason]

Just finished building these 3 teams. Excited AF for regulation G.

[solid frigate]

ah

[rustic mountain]

just got top 500 again after about a week break, csr team still seems good

[solid frigate]

i kinda see most Restricted are Kinda Neutral against Terapagos

[bold geode]

My guy
Wtf is Twitter
30-35 minutes and this shit

[warped mason]

Honestly don't have much issue with terapogos. Its kinda weak to taunt.

[rustic mountain]

uh wat

[bold geode]

2.8K views and 84 likes
On one of Wolfes posts

[rustic mountain]

oh

yea i mean hes pretty well known

[bold geode]

He posted this pic from stream and I replied with that

[solid frigate]

i don't have enough Data for Solgaleo and Reshiram-

[solid frigate]

this should be a Meme

[rustic mountain]

u gave me like no context originally lmao

[bold geode]

Lol

[warped mason]

Isn't lunala tough for terapogos?

Considering wide guard and ghost typing?

[rustic mountain]

wat round did wolfey play

[bold geode]

I just posted dumb shit though and got that shit

R7
He lost to Crown

[solid frigate]

depend on which set

[rustic mountain]

[warped mason]

Peak wolfe

[warped mason]

I think the standard is meteor beam with wide guard.

[molten oasis]

doesnt kyogre not like terapagos

its whole thing is being a rain sweeper, you shut that down'

[solid frigate]

also Lunala can't hit Terapagos with Moongeist Beam-

So yeah they both charge Meteor beam it seems

[warped mason]

Well u rain dance on their tera

[molten oasis]

...

its not that simple

[bold geode]

Justin Carris was running it

I'm just saying

Wolfe won Orlando last year and Carris won Charlotte last year iirc

This year Wolfe won Charlotte, will Carris take Orlando?

[warped mason]

Also taunting terapogos puts it in a bad spot

[molten oasis]

it is so commonly run with redirection and fake out pressure so idt its really a big deal for it

[warped mason]

Well torn is often ran with covert cloak, and how can u redirect taunt?

[molten oasis]

FOLLOW ME

[rustic mountain]

yea theyve been friends for awhile too would b funny

[solid frigate]

the move that only gets attention by Pachurisu-

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

I mean regular Ursa just got a title
Crown could

[warped mason]

Doesn't follow me have +1 priority?

[molten oasis]

follow me is +2

[warped mason]

Oh shit

[molten oasis]

so is rage powder

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon:Kek

[molten oasis]

and Torrent OGERPON EXISTS

but also you can just, attack, you dont need calm mind to do damage

[rustic mountain]

nils also made a good meta call. balance breaker in ursa surrounded by good support mons

[solid frigate]

ik i have it on my team-

[molten oasis]

this gave me different vibes

[rustic mountain]

idk if crown is that meta call this teams been around for a bit

[solid frigate]

otherwise why would wolfey keep mentioning That play from Park when he talk about Ogerpon having Follow Me

[molten oasis]

ig

[warped mason]

Yea i guess it depends on the partners. Like if you're going to run ogerpon water next to it then yea you're beating torn kyogre.

[molten oasis]

anyway the other problem with kyogre is youre dealing with a calm mind user

[timber falcon]

for reg G, does the mon u wanna build around have to be a restricted mon?

[molten oasis]

typically yes

[warped mason]

Water spout in rain doesn't really care about calm mind

[molten oasis]

idt you should be running niche mons rn i feel like ive told you plently

[solid frigate]

Terapagos:

[molten oasis]

brother, terapagos doesnt care

it has tera shell

[warped mason]

You rain dance buddy

[solid frigate]

Groudon:
Koraidon:
Ogerpon Wellspring:
Raging Bolt:
Iron Bundle:

[molten oasis]

you utilize tera shell to set up, then start sweeping later on

[timber falcon]

im not talking niche, im just thinking a star thats not the resricted mon, for instance watershifu but using kyogre to help it out or smth

[warped mason]

Thats only for the 1st hit though

And if you're taunted by torn you can't setup

[molten oasis]

you also have your support on the side (usually rilla or wellspring)

to prevent the prevention of set up

and yea yk wahts so important about using terapagos

your timing

[solid frigate]

i usually have Tornadus+Ogerpon to Mimic Tornshifu

[molten oasis]

if im worried about torn setting rain dance im probably gonna try to remove it

[elder python]

can someone help me with my team

[warped mason]

This is all subjective af tho tbf.

[molten oasis]

yea cuz counterplay isnt a simple as "taunt it"

[solid frigate]

paste?

[molten oasis]

it all depends on your board state and positioning

[warped mason]

If i see ogrepon wellspring I'm prob not gonna lead torn kyogre

[solid frigate]

mhm

[molten oasis]

thats an opportunity to let terapagos set up lol

[solid frigate]

and i have freaking Grimmsnarl lol

[molten oasis]

theres a lot to the game

[elder python]

it disappeared it’s not on showdown anymore what happened

[solid frigate]

Grimmsnarl Light Screen+ Terapagos Calm Mind

[timber falcon]

can rayquaza work this reg without extreme speed

[molten oasis]

knowing your win cons and what to bring/lead/etc matters a lot

[timber falcon]

i was thinking d dance

[warped mason]

I'd still say the match up is closer to neutral than it is to terapogos favor by far

[molten oasis]

i think terapagos favors the mu

[elder python]

how do i save teams on showdown wth its gone

[molten oasis]

terapagos doesnt care about kyogre's attacks

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 156 HP / 4 SpD Terapagos-Stellar in Rain through Light Screen: 66-78 (25.8 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Pathetic

[warped mason]

It will after terapogos shell breaks

[timber falcon]

scroll down on the team, save to server

[molten oasis]

itll be set up after that

[warped mason]

And it will still care +1

[elder python]

that’s it? thanks

[gentle crag]

boidudeman has given 1 Gen Rep to otot8953

[solid frigate]

also Terapagos Walls Kyogre

[molten oasis]

did you look at that calc

[solid frigate]

@warped mason

[molten oasis]

did you completely miss that calc? that says otherwise

[timber falcon]

this, this looks a bit wrong

oh its with calm mind

[solid frigate]

i always Light Screen with Grimmsnarl-

[warped mason]

Well no shit.u have screens up

[molten oasis]

and thats in base, thats not in its giga bulk form

i think

[timber falcon]

whats the convo abt im a lil lost

[molten oasis]

kyogre not having a bad mu into terapagos

[timber falcon]

so kyogre is good into terapagos?

or the opposite

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 156 HP / 4 SpD Terapagos-Stellar: 88-105 (34.5 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 156 HP / 4 SpD Terapagos-Stellar in Rain: 133-157 (52.1 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 156 HP / 4 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Rain: 66-78 (34.7 - 41%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Rain: 97-115 (51 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[timber falcon]

why +1, kyogre should be faster

[molten oasis]

252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar: 87-103 (32.5 - 38.5%) -- 4.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery cough

[solid frigate]

Calm Mind after the first spout

[timber falcon]

oh ok

[solid frigate]

or just did not spout

[molten oasis]

252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar in Rain: 130-154 (48.6 - 57.6%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

it doesnt care

[warped mason]

I wouldn't say that doesn't care

[molten oasis]

youre not 2hkoing with spout

you will get hit

[solid frigate]

also remember, Terapagos deletes the rain

[molten oasis]

severely bumping down that damage

252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Origin Pulse vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar in Rain: 96-114 (35.9 - 42.6%) -- 94.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 65-77 (34.2 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[warped mason]

Yea and u have other partners to get around the loss of rain

[molten oasis]

and thats mystic water

[warped mason]

Like your own rain dance

[molten oasis]

ok, kill the tornadus