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#competitive_discussion
polar canyon
timber falcon
u have other moves
solid frigate
just a Thought,How did PokeaimMD still play Smogon after the BS happen in Smogon-
timber falcon
what happened
solid frigate
bro have more paitence and mental health than me playing in Smogon when Pity bans are everywhere
solid frigate
what happened
nothing really,i just have random though
mighty stump
bro have more paitence and mental health than me playing in Smogon when Pity ban...
pity bans
?
solid frigate
yep i am notsaying stuff
mighty stump
You already said stuff might as well have the courage to stand with what you say lul
solid frigate
the thing is,why some pokemon like Archaludon,banned here when VGC it does not have that much usage
mighty stump
Cause it's a different format with different considerations
It's a bit dumb to think the same contexts apply
solid frigate
its just bothers me sometimes that i sometimes play Smogon again and that Pokemon is banned
polar canyon
Valiant isn't that good, why is it so popular in smogon?
Not quite the same thing
Most of the time there's valid arguments for the bans
Apprently no one liked playing against ghold + gliscor
solid frigate
Apprently no one liked playing against ghold + gliscor
which is just,i don't even know how to think about it
polar canyon
Vgc doesn't ban stuff so there's things like paonite in reg c and we just gotta deal with it
polar canyon
which is just,i don't even know how to think about it
The game was centered on hazards
solid frigate
Vgc doesn't ban stuff so there's things like paonite in reg c and we just gotta ...
exactly
timber falcon
Vgc doesn't ban stuff so there's things like paonite in reg c and we just gotta ...
except moves
mighty stump
its just bothers me sometimes that i sometimes play Smogon again and that Pokemo...
Honestly my stance is if you want to be able to question the decision making processes from the people who control the balancing, you gotta be at least as good as them to start having that conversation
autumn vault
Vgc doesn't ban stuff so there's things like paonite in reg c and we just gotta ...
And Calyrex Shadow in reg G
mighty stump
Especially because it's community vote based
solid frigate
i haven't looked at Smogon that much in Gen 9
polar canyon
Most metas in vgc would be pretty different if they just banned mane to vgc Ubers in reg b
Or if they just banned tusk because tusk + talonflame was good
Man
Remember when great tusk was even thought about?
Now sometimes I forget it even exists
autumn vault
Honestly my stance is if you want to be able to question the decision making pro...
what i would say
iirc people with an 80% winrate or higher can vote
solid frigate
Now sometimes I forget it even exists
once again Power Creep..
polar canyon
Dude remember when garchomp was good
Now the only occasion when you'll see it is sand veil bright powder gimmicks
polar canyon
lets just say,Power creep hates Old Gen Pokemons
Old gen mons like great tusk?
Real
solid frigate
i might as well shut up but depends
polar canyon
Wo chien was power crept before it was ever even good at all
solid frigate
i look like a troll person now lol
solid frigate
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bitter heart
Has anyone tried using terapagos in Reg G yet? Does it only get the tera stellar damage boost for it’s STAB moves once like other mons normally would?
mighty stump
Has anyone tried using terapagos in Reg G yet? Does it only get the tera stellar...
It retains the 1.2x boost
foggy lodge
the thing is,why some pokemon like Archaludon,banned here when VGC it does not h...
I really don't understand the tier in Smogon
Can someone explain?
bitter heart
It retains the 1.2x boost
I thought stellar gave an extra 50% for the mon’s STAB like any regular tera type would
Or is it 20% for all types
whole ibex
Important question: I’m going to the Regional This Sunday. Does Sunday have a set time as to when it ends? I been looking everywhere and there seems to not be one. I need to know when the regional ends.
solid frigate
Has anyone tried using terapagos in Reg G yet? Does it only get the tera stellar...
Tofu and Me
mighty stump
Tera Stellar is the 19th Tera type! It does not change a Pokemon's weaknesses, resistances, or immunities (e.g. Tera Stellar Terapagos is still weak to Fighting and immune to Ghost). It also applies a damage boost to moves-but only once per move type. This is a 2x STAB boost that replaces the usual 1.5x STAB boost if the move's type matches the user's original typing and 1.2x boost if not. After you use a move, no other moves of that same type will get the boost.
Terapagos-Stellar permanently receives a 2x damage boost to Normal-type moves and a 1.2x damage boost to all other moves. Additionally, Tera Stellar alters the behavior of Tera Blast and Terapagos's signature move, Tera Starstorm. Both moves lose the STAB boost received on them besides Tera Stellar's 1.2x multiplier, but they become neutral against all non-Terastallized Pokemon and super effective against all Terastallized Pokemon. Tera Blast also gets its Base Power raised to 100 but lowers the user's Attack and Special Attack stats by one stage when used.
It's different for Terapagos
solid frigate
I really don't understand the tier in Smogon
OU is basically the most common format,but i think if you search Smogon Tiers Explained by Pokeaim could work
bitter heart
It's different for Terapagos
Yeah that’s what I was mainly wondering if it kept the bonus or not since it’s locked to stellar tera
solid frigate
Yeah that’s what I was mainly wondering if it kept the bonus or not since it’s l...
its like Ogerpon,you lock into that Tera
bitter heart
its like Ogerpon,you lock into that Tera
I know it is I was asking about how it interacted with no being able to change that
solid frigate
I know it is I was asking about how it interacted with no being able to change t...
you can't change it
next stump
Important question: I’m going to the Regional This Sunday. Does Sunday have a se...
You’re going to a regional on Sunday?
bitter heart
next stump
They start on Saturday
whole ibex
You’re going to a regional on Sunday?
Yes, as a spectator
next stump
Oh okay, that makes more sense
mighty stump
you can't change it
You've misunderstood their question twice now
next stump
Usually sunday is done by like 3-4PM
solid frigate
You've misunderstood their question twice now
yea i am dumb
solid frigate
I know it is I was asking about how it interacted with no being able to change t...
so like Weaknesses and stuff?
autumn vault
Has anyone tried using terapagos in Reg G yet? Does it only get the tera stellar...
Many people use terapagos and even main it
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-stalker-the-simpsons-bush-reverse-gif-11643...
hoi drago
molten oasis
Hi
mighty stump
What happened to a week
molten oasis
How’s everyone doing?
autumn vault
Lurking around here, arent you?
molten oasis
What happened to a week
I didn’t say I wouldnt interact
I’m not playing the game
For a week
autumn vault
How’s everyone doing?
Doing great, thanks for asking
gentle cragBOT
Doing great, thanks for asking
lycopoky has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
autumn vault
**lycopoky** has given 1 `Gen Rep` to **drayagedrago**
Atleast it makes sense this time
solid frigate
How’s everyone doing?
still doing fine,but kinda make myself dumb sometimes
molten oasis
And I’m just checking in
bitter heart
so like Weaknesses and stuff?
Tofu already answered what I asked
molten oasis
I’m the lurker
solid frigate
Tofu already answered what I asked
good
bold geode
How’s everyone doing?
I keep forgetting you're not CEO of Hydrapple
foggy lodge
Reposting but what do you guys think about this team? https://pokepast.es/c1f19c5beb8b0758
bold geode
What happened to a week
It's ok Tofu I can spook Drago
solid frigate
time to become the shadow of him again Heck not even a shadow,a grain of dust
molten oasis
Yea, that wasn’t my thing lol
bold geode
Drago
Boo
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785
Bye man
Have a good day
molten oasis
Byeee, imma go draw or smth
solid frigate
Reposting but what do you guys think about this team? https://pokepast.es/c1f19c...
severe PTSD on the Fake Out CC destroyed my Terapagos-
bold geode
Byeee, imma go draw or smth
Draw Deez nuts ha got em
solid frigate
cuz Gallede
bold geode
Yeah that was bad
solid frigate
Yeah that was bad
i mean,its fine if you see that i made dumb takes,so yeah
solid frigate
I need results
hows the result rn
next stump
Twitter
autumn vault
hows the result rn
I won a match earilier
bold geode
https://twitter.com/soulsurvgc/status/1778863914962264569?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddf...
Bruh wtf
solid frigate
I won a match earilier
cool
autumn vault
https://twitter.com/soulsurvgc/status/1778863914962264569?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddf...
Sorry homie not even in neither american continents
solid frigate
https://twitter.com/soulsurvgc/status/1778863914962264569?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddf...
Sorry i am not in London
autumn vault
I am not in London either
solid frigate
nor America
solid frigate
back to testing
i might make a Trick Room Version of my Team
although i love Tailwind more
autumn vault
i might make a Trick Room Version of my Team
Not the PTSD off of ice horse with an onion
fuck i found one
autumn vault
Yay i beat a calyrex-ice team again
Pelipper is a very good addition to the team, i think i tested enough since even with landorus-incarnate i found good success
bitter heart
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2102067700-m9qsi0yagnnxuh49c4...
Zekrom represent 
autumn vault
Zekrom represent <:BusinessSpheal:824618105090211851>
Everyone doubts Zekrom, so i want to get to a good elo result to prove them wrong, like around 1400-1600 elo is my goal
bitter heart
The gen 5 mascot legends are some of my favs
Plus bolt strike’s animation in SV is probably the coolest legendary signature
autumn vault
Agreed
Zekrom is my first ever restricted legend and in gen 5 it had such an amazing design
3D butchered it but i love my black dragon forever
bitter heart
They kind of fucked up every other legendary signature move animation but they actually did well with bolt strike at least
bitter heart
The lighting around the edges of it when it glows was cool. Unfortunately it doesn’t light up at all in it’s idle animations in 3D
bitter heart
Would have been nice if it just kept it’s glow on all battle instead of only turning it on while attacking. Like black/white kyurem
autumn vault
Would have been nice if it just kept it’s glow on all battle instead of only tur...
True
3D really massacred my favourite dragons didn't it?
autumn vault
Massacred a lot of good mons
Sad truth isn't it
Atleast SV re-added some of the charm but 2D is still better
bitter heart
Every flying and levitating mon looked so ugly just hovering
Yeah SV fixed a good amount of problems they made but not everything
The sprite art still had that certain charm to it
bitter heart
Every flying and levitating mon looked so ugly just hovering
Eelektross was another one of my favorite gen 5 mons but they turned it into a goddamn windsock
autumn vault
3D wasn't completely awful, i mean Zubat NEEDED 3D to really express more
autumn vault
Eelektross was another one of my favorite gen 5 mons but they turned it into a g...
true
I also love Eelektross
bitter heart
Tropius at least got fixed in SV
mental glen
So I'm going to do a challenge where I can only use pokemon silver used to beat pokemon sv and the dlc's and I'm gonna do the EV IV training as well so I'm going to give you the pokemon for his team and I need help picking out the moves EV and iv's of his pokemon because I'm still new to all this lol *note I'm counting pokemon masters
Feraligatar Alakazam magneton gengar Snesel Tyranitar
autumn vault
Crobat isnt in sv
mental glen
Just realized let me change that lol
Change it to Alakazam
Alakazam isn't in sv either is it?
I don't want to use ho oh or another starter... So unless there is another pokemon I don't know about gusse it will only be 5 pokemon
Alright gusse it's just Feraligatar magneton gengar Snesel and Tyranitar then
bold geode
Tf did I come back to
mighty stump
I don't think this is really competitive
mental glen
Ok in that case could I get a good build for a competitive dragonite then?
bold geode
I don't think this is really competitive
Tofu you got a Dnite set?
I haven't used it in a while
Also kinda depends on item you're using
mental glen
I don't mind the item as long as it's not life orb
autumn vault
It is not Life Orb
bold geode
Like there's Choice Band, AV, and Loaded Dice sets rn
mental glen
Like there's Choice Band, AV, and Loaded Dice sets rn
What's AV?
autumn vault
assault vest
mental glen
Oh that makes sense
How about loaded dice? That's sounds good
Actually any good Choice band builds?
solid frigate
yey back from dinner
mental glen
Nvm just got a good set
carmine pilot
Are there any fun Groudon teams?
timber falcon
has ultra necrozma ever been allowed in vgc
solid frigate
solid frigate
has ultra necrozma ever been allowed in vgc
Yes in Gen 7
timber falcon
and never again?
solid frigate
and never again?
probably
carmine pilot
Okay thinking on making two teams, a Sun Team with Groudon and Walking Wake, and another Snow one with Calyrex Ice and Alolan Ninetales, would that work for Regulation G?
solid frigate
Okay thinking on making two teams, a Sun Team with Groudon and Walking Wake, and...
it could work
carmine pilot
Is Calyrex Ice better on Snow or Psychic Terrain?
Bc Psychic terrain can stop priority moves, but snow + aurora veil can keep it alive for longer
carmine pilot
Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Extreme Speed or anything that could really harm too much Calyrex
polar canyon
Shadow sneak harming it too much in snow would be shocking
Don't forget the ice type snow defense boost
carmine pilot
Oh true
polar canyon
And get clear amulet for incin
And tera fire for wisp
But also remember that changing type removes the snow defense boost
foggy lodge
Is Calyrex Ice better on Snow or Psychic Terrain?
Farigiraf is the bestie of almost every restricted
foggy lodge
Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, Extreme Speed or anything that could really harm too...
Shadow sneak is out of the meta and extreme speed is not a big problem
Sucker punch is problematic
carmine pilot
And get clear amulet for incin
so Tera Fire Calyrex holding a Clear Amulet is my best option?
foggy lodge
Things like Kingambit or Chien-Pao
carmine pilot
Things like Kingambit or Chien-Pao
Yeah, Chien-Pao specially, its really annoying
carmine pilot
Farigiraf is the bestie of almost every restricted
Would it still be good if Im building a Snow Team?
foggy lodge
Anyways Caly-Ice's best archetype is Trick Room
foggy lodge
Would it still be good if Im building a Snow Team?
I think it would be better with a Trick Room team
Farigiraf, Incineroar, Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
carmine pilot
Not sure if I wanna play a Trick Room team now tbh
I mean, it still an option, but I see potential for snow and aurora veil
bold geode
Not sure if I wanna play a Trick Room team now tbh
Screens Caly I is a way to go
It's just more commonly seen with TR
However with Snow, you can see Blizzard spam with Kyurem I think White?
Pretty sure that's the one fused with Reshiram
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
bold geode
Yeah Kyurem White
carmine pilot
Screens Caly I is a way to go
It's just more commonly seen with TR
However with ...
That sounds fun, it would be a tailwind based team right?
bold geode
Which one?
Actually hold up
https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofutable9
Both teams I mentioned can be found talked about in this blog here
Written by Tofu
I don't take credit lol
summer shore
Chat
bold geode
@summer shore
summer shore
<@177012687111323649>
@bold geode
bold geode
<@817628066020065280>
How is @summer shore
Huh
Oh I don't really do that stuff lol
Honestly you're using two legendaries, do you even need stats for that lmao
Who else actually EVs out stuff for that
summer shore
How is <@177012687111323649>
Doing my skincare routine
bold geode
Doing my skincare routine
How long take
Hey funny OU man
We're finally getting to use restricteds
summer shore
How long take
Not too long its just 6-7 steps
summer shore
Hey funny OU man
We're finally getting to use restricteds
Yeah it seems like your metagame will become very fun!
bold geode
Yeah it seems like your metagame will become very fun!
staring at Calyrex Shadow Rider who is nuts for no reason whatsoever
summer shore
Precisely my point
bold geode
Lmao
At least I be liking Groudon and now Zamazenta
And AT LEAST I HAVE MIRAIDON
Finally got your ass, Scarlet players
bold geode
It's solid, just hates that 4x weakness
summer shore
Mhm
bold geode
But imo Groudon just better
Like Koraidon could be a better offensive sun setter, but overall I gotta give the crown to Groudon
polar canyon
How do I play fwg without using ogerpon wellspring as my grass
I forgot how to do that
bold geode
Urshifu Rillaboom
bold geode
Once again
God bless Rillaboom
polar canyon
I can't do urshifu rilla incin if I want electric terrain
I can just do ogerpon hearthflame
bold geode
Yeah I think I've seen that before
polar canyon
I don't think the type overlap with chi yu is gonna matter way too much
Probably
Hopefully
Chien and bundle are pretty straight forward
252 252 timid/jolly
Atk/spatk speed
Kyurem-White @ Life Orb
Ability: Turboblaze
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 172 HP / 4 Def / 156 SpA / 4 SpD / 172 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Draco Meteor
- Fusion Flare
- Protect
137 speed for outspeeding 205 after icy wind
Toma aí
Fire resists steel and fairy
gentle cragBOT
chupetovsky has given 1 Gen Rep to campfire__
bold geode
Sometimes you click Fusion Flare
atomic mural
ARAQUANID IS GOATED
polar canyon
Real
bold geode
ARAQUANID IS GOATED
It ain't chief I'm sorry
polar canyon
The design is goated
Really cool spider
https://pokepast.es/1deaded2088f367a I think I'm getting somewhere
polar canyon
Wide guard
Ye
Remember its faster than most mons if you use icy wind and they don't have tailwind
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/1deaded2088f367a I think I'm getting somewhere
The chi-yu
timber falcon
ARAQUANID IS GOATED
Also I’m a bit late but umm what is this
atomic mural
Nah trust
timber falcon
How far has it gotten you
atomic mural
Pretty far
timber falcon
Numbers?
atomic mural
Fine I’m not like that far but I think it’s good
polar canyon
The chi-yu
Real set btw
timber falcon
Now I’m doubting myself 
polar canyon
Look it up
I do wish araquanid could do more than have wide guard and hit hard only with water
atomic mural
and hit hard with ONLY water attacks
and takes half damage from fire attacks
timber falcon
Look it up
I can’t find it 
polar canyon
I made you waste your time
timber falcon
Strong language used I regret
polar canyon
timber falcon
I’m too naïve I swear
But can it work as a set 
It’s got me thinking, maybe, in some situations
polar canyon
You can't have multiple of the same move
polar canyon
That would be kinda dumb
timber falcon
and takes half damage from fire attacks
Still seems lacking 
Cause lunge still isn’t gonna do much
polar canyon
Pretty sure it doesn't even have struggle bug
timber falcon
I can see where the side effect is useful
polar canyon
Struggle bug would be nice
atomic mural
skitter smack does the same thing
polar canyon
Not spread and can miss
timber falcon
True struggle bug better
polar canyon
Trust me araquanid is one of my favorite pokemon and it does not fit the wide guard niche any better than the other wide guard users
I wish it was more usable
timber falcon
I have used it in the past, but it’s incredibly inconsistent and despite its ok bulk it gets overwhelmed
solid frigate
I wish it was more usable
i saw a few who used it,but thats it
anyways
turtle out tim
timber falcon
all these teams and only 2 that work well
im dissapointed in myself
i hadnt even realised#
polar canyon
It be like that
solid frigate
all these teams and only 2 that work well
at least you have different Pokemon, i literally made Multiple teams of the same pokemon more than that
polar canyon
Don't worry about it
timber falcon
but its nice to see previous tries i guess
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/c2093edf0e4049ba man just let me cook its actually pretty heat
solid frigate
but its nice to see previous tries i guess
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/c2093edf0e4049ba man just let me cook its actually pretty he...
forgot its on a sun team, this doesnt help its case
polar canyon
And it's in sun?
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/c2093edf0e4049ba man just let me cook its actually pretty he...
HE'S ON TO NOTHING 🔥 🔥 💯 🗣️
polar canyon
You forgot to turn on the stove
solid frigate
You forgot to turn on the stove
ok thats actually funny
timber falcon
food is still cold
atomic mural
nuh uh
mighty stump
HIDDEN TALENT, KEEP IT HIDDEN
timber falcon
lurks in the shadows, only to speak and hand out violations 😭
anyways, that araquanid isnt in a good spot
polar canyon
If it was a rain team honestly I can see it
timber falcon
its only unique and probably best quality which is dishing out incredibly powerful water moves, is defeated
polar canyon
If it was a rain team honestly I can see it
Kinda
timber falcon
mhm why do 0.5 when it can be 1.5
solid frigate
If it was a rain team honestly I can see it
but sun team tho... its bit of a problem
Love How Corny's Team is very Offensive while Mine is just rn,More on Defensive
timber falcon
terapagos
polar canyon
I wonder if this guy likes terapagos
solid frigate
I wonder if this guy likes terapagos
timber falcon
actually corny, all that araquanid does is wide guard
polar canyon
yet Nukes Groudon Teams
(I tried before)
It just nukes teams
timber falcon
I wonder if this guy likes terapagos
seems more like a solgaleo fan tbh, what made you think this?
polar canyon
I'm the solgaleo fan
solid frigate
seems more like a solgaleo fan tbh, what made you think this?
ok tbf i like Solgaleo
timber falcon
solgaleo is clean i cant lie, but im on lunalas side here
with tons of competetive bias
solid frigate
solgaleo is clean i cant lie, but im on lunalas side here
same,Its just looks better design wise
polar canyon
Solgaleo is for sure worse than lunala
timber falcon
i tried use it, but its too hard
polar canyon
In design they're tied for me
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
ok so its clear amulet
polar canyon
It's clear body
solid frigate
oh yeah that-
polar canyon
And it has no way of boosting attack
solid frigate
I used so many times on Metagross how i forgot that
timber falcon
i hate how they cursed some legendaries tbh
polar canyon
Hey dusk mane necrozma can raise its own attack at least
solid frigate
i hate how they cursed some legendaries tbh
Dusk Mane has Dragon Dance and thats it
timber falcon
all legs should have somewhat decent abilities
polar canyon
And swords dance
timber falcon
why tf give a leg pressure
polar canyon
all legs should have somewhat decent abilities
What full metal body is great
timber falcon
eternatus had so much potential
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
What full metal body is great
im talking differently
polar canyon
Corrosion eternatus
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
yeah that works with toxic stall
polar canyon
It would be good for singles
Toxic stall is all eternatus does and it only works in singles
mighty stump
On araquanid this is just having a regular Water typing lmao
timber falcon
what differntiates miraidon and koraidon
is it just the moveset
i mean like in the meta, are most mons physical defemders?
i think typing is actually one of them
i know that but why is what im tryna find out
they have the same speed no?
solid frigate
Stab+Hadron+Terrain
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
Stab+Hadron+Terrain
oh yeah terrain boost
solid frigate
they have the same speed.
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
speed is the same
solid frigate
oh yeah terrain boost
koraidon is just Orichalcum+Stab
timber falcon
oh i think the terrain is the deciding facter here right
and probs versatility
like volt switch and dgleam
polar canyon
Koraidon gets one shot by dazzling gleam I think that's important
solid frigate
and probs versatility
they both can assist Paradox Mons well,but whos better on it
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
Koraidon gets one shot by dazzling gleam I think that's important
scarf or Amulet?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
polar canyon
scarf or Amulet?
Neither of those is defensive
timber falcon
Koraidon gets one shot by dazzling gleam I think that's important
true true quad weakness isnt it
polar canyon
It can always tera
timber falcon
still thats no good
polar canyon
The thing is
solid frigate
It can always tera
timber falcon
forced teras arent wanted
timber falcon
It always has to tera
which makes it also easily readable
solid frigate
if its in front of Terapagos then they won't tera
timber falcon
mirai has a REALLY hard hitting pivot
solid frigate
i saw someone tera infront of my Terapagos and they just died
timber falcon
Flutter mane is only the second or third most used mon
whats no.1
polar canyon
Idk wasn't it incineroar last time
timber falcon
i saw someone tera infront of my Terapagos and they just died
well ofc idk why anyone would do that
solid frigate
well ofc idk why anyone would do that
uh because as the matter of fact,someone did when i was testing
polar canyon
Nvm then
solid frigate
turtle Out
timber falcon
https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-gloogy-pokemon-good-night-gif-53130062383241530...
so many gloog variety, gn
polar canyon
Well at least it's under 50%
solid frigate
so many gloog variety, gn
because its Gloog,Goodnight
timber falcon
Well at least it's under 50%
hasnt incin been at the 70s previously
polar canyon
There's a 50% chance that maybe you won't have to spend your tera on koraidon
polar canyon
hasnt incin been at the 70s previously
Yeah but like for regionals
Because everyone is playing seriously there so more people use the best pokemon in the game
polar canyon
Well it's the shiny new toy we get to play with
timber falcon
it needs a perfect partner to work, else it falls apart
polar canyon
Groudon is still better
timber falcon
groudon better by miles
polar canyon
Miraidons only competition is pincurchin
polar canyon
And like regieleki
timber falcon
regileki with eterrain?
polar canyon
As strong volt switch and very fast
polar canyon
Balance is like the only way to use it
timber falcon
yeah, hard sun teams with it seem to fail for me
polar canyon
Get that flutter mane speed boosted
timber falcon
though it really needs a tw counter
polar canyon
And lose to kyogre
timber falcon
rain is a massive problem, it deletes ots great damage output
timber falcon
which hurts it quite a bit
polar canyon
Can we stop to think about how flutter mane has the same speed and special attack as the one of the box legendaries of the generation
timber falcon
not only that but a specifci item AND ability which drectly counter t
WAIT WAIT WAIT
polar canyon
I think it would be fine to make spdef and spatk 120 and put those stats in hp and defense
It would be pretty cool
timber falcon
BOTH LEGS HAVE A PARADOX MON THAT DIRECTLY COUNTERS ITS TYPING
that a cool detail
iron treads and flutter
polar canyon
Yeah and they're called flutter mane and flutter mane
timber falcon
or flutter flutter lol
polar canyon
Hey miraidon can ohko bulky mane at least
With like stellar tera + beads of ruin
But it can
timber falcon
that is if it outspeeds
timber falcon
oh i always assumed specs
cyan smelt
can we talk about how koraidon, miraidon, chien pao and flutter have the same base speed
polar canyon
It's probably on purpose
timber falcon
a battle ground lmao
polar canyon
At least no one's gonna run scarf chien
polar canyon
252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Rayquaza Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 142-169 (81.1 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This is another very fortunate thing
It's probably gonna be clear amulet most of the time
It's just the smogon set
mighty stump
Zamazenta honestly better than Zacian atm
polar canyon
Well ray gets swords dance and stops all weather
mighty stump
Rayquaza clearing Weather is a pretty huge deal.
polar canyon
And if we're comparing raw damage ray has more base attack
Also it has flying stab that's not tera blast
cyan smelt
Dragon ascent is pretty powerful
polar canyon
They really took away nites dual wingbeat
cyan smelt
I played against a koraidon with dual wingbeat, low ladder be crazy
polar canyon
Man they really gave it dual wingbeat for its ear wings
cyan smelt
They gave these legendaries a bunch of coverage
timber falcon
Rayquaza clearing Weather is a pretty huge deal.
Support Ray? 
polar canyon
That's a torkoal
When is someone gonna win a regional with tera fire scarf eruption groudon
cyan smelt
I think I've played against scarf eruption entei before
timber falcon
i think its been at a reginal before
cyan smelt
i hate archaludon
near crag
What item and spread should be ran in a helping hand + hyper voice farigiraf? All bulky and sitrus/goggles helps to extract every last bit of value out of hh, but throat spray and 252, 252 makes it benefit infinitely more out of hyper voice. What's the way to go?
Or are helping hands and hyper voice things that shouldn´t be together at the first place?
next stump
What item and spread should be ran in a helping hand + hyper voice farigiraf? Al...
IMO it's a judgment call
I think if you're going throat spray hyper voice, you bare minimum want 76+ SpA investment since that's the first bump in your special attack
I've seen as high as 200+ SpA investment but I think that's really tough to justify because if you're using Farigarif as a TR setter, you need bulk (especially without sitrus berry for pseudo bulk)
near crag
The moveset is hh, hyper voice, tr, psychic, and tr is only there to reset, since my whole team is fast
novel python
is water the best tera for hisuian arc?
near crag
So, following this logic, would 252/-/60/76+/16/4 work? or should the hp/def/spdef ratio be different?
bold geode
is water the best tera for hisuian arc?
Grass/Ghost/Fairy tbh
next stump
So, following this logic, would 252/-/60/76+/16/4 work? or should the hp/def/spd...
Do you not have more EVs than that?
maybe i'm bad at math but that doesn't seem like 508EVs off the top of my head
near crag
My bad for the typo, it’s 116, instead of 16
fluid fiber
Planning to enter the next big tourney close to me. First time attending an event and could use some help with team building. Casually did competitive SWSH but wanna get into this game going forwards.
https://pokepast.es/915d95e58211534d
mighty stump
Do you not have more EVs than that?
This is the funniest way you could have asked that
fluid fiber
Been laddering on Showdown with a pretty decent success rate but also willing to go back to the drawing board. Used Wo-Chien in place of Sinistcha for most of my laddering as a late game unremovable tank but more people were prepared as skill increased
fluid fiber
Been laddering on Showdown with a pretty decent success rate but also willing to...
Tofu! You helped me make my day one SV team lol. Grinded to MB rank from that team in the first regulation 
mighty stump
I was just about to say hello
I think Valiant and Chi-Yu almost feel out of place here, since from experience Terapagos is pretty fat to deal with even the hardest hitters
Plus with Kyogre you already have Ogerpon
fluid fiber
Yeah Valliant Def is one I'm not sold on but the fairy stab helps deal with a lot of Urshifu
Chi-Yu is super useful because of the threat under opponent's sun. Let's me pivot around a different tera so I don't HAVE to use Terapagos to remove sun - but I could swap that too
D Pulse also deals with both riders well
And Farig
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/57df395b59ed9551
Conceptually I haven’t made much edits but this is the first draft I used to Rank 1 in the first 24 hours of the format or so. Fairy-wise I think Flutter is able to pressure Teras better while Urshifu can punish Protects for those that do not want to Tera
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/451f66b6a5c03af6 bro my friend wanted to fight me and this is what he used
mighty stump
I think Chi-Yu could benefit off of Sash as well
Mainly, Flutter and Urshifu also help with Zamazenta
fluid fiber
Actually I think Chi has only been OHKO'd a few times
mighty stump
Nothing wrong with Chi-Flutter either
Covert Cloak feels very underutilised at the moment
fluid fiber
True for the SPD drop
The one thing I'd like is a wide guard on the team still
Hard shuts down teams for Terapagos to shine
But also I'm not getting crazy usage anymore as I climb so maybe not
fluid fiber
True
mighty stump
With Feint access breaking opposing Wide Guards
fluid fiber
You think Pherb is better than Leftovers on Pagos?
mighty stump
Oh, also, in case you’re interested https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofutable9
mighty stump
You think Pherb is better than Leftovers on Pagos?
Not necessarily, but I have a couple of reasons
I found having both feels good to utilise
Cause I never found myself clicking any other coverage move
fluid fiber
Oh, also, in case you’re interested https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/to...
Will read this
fluid fiber
Cause I never found myself clicking any other coverage move
Fair me either
Even when threatened by Wide guard I just don't tera
mighty stump
MBeam outright threatens a lot of things while increasing your pressure
fluid fiber
True 🤔
mighty stump
And the Wide Guard issue is dealt with by just knowing when to Tera
fluid fiber
^
mighty stump
You have one turn of unpredictability
fluid fiber
I definitely think Terapagos, Ogerpon, and Incin is a good core to keep
mighty stump
You can also try Comfey which are reminiscent of Zygarde/Comfey stuff
fluid fiber
I messed around with it but it doesn't quite mesh with my piloting style lol
I tend to misuse the team
dull ibex
hello everyone
dont be a gamer with archnaphobia pokemon feels like one of a handful of safe spaces lmao
cyan smelt
What about all the spider pokemon
fluid fiber
Araquanid
fluid fiber
I definitely think Terapagos, Ogerpon, and Incin is a good core to keep
Would you agree with this or would you swap any out
bold geode
they dont freighten me
Tf are you talking about
dull ibex
Tf are you talking about
being an archnaphobic gamer sucks?
mighty stump
Would you agree with this or would you swap any out
I agree
bold geode
What arachnophobia gotta do
cyan smelt
I think I need to rework my team, ho oh really struggles against kyogre/torn/arch stuff
dull ibex
it does not my bad
mighty stump
I think I need to rework my team, ho oh really struggles against kyogre/torn/arc...
I ran into the most fuckass team with Ho-Oh stall
dull ibex
I ran into the most fuckass team with Ho-Oh stall
Ho-Oh stall?
fluid fiber
I ran into the most fuckass team with Ho-Oh stall
Brutal
fluid fiber
Should Sinistcha stay on the team to reset Pagos' ability or is it too weak against the current threats
mighty stump
Should Sinistcha stay on the team to reset Pagos' ability or is it too weak agai...
I like something more active healing wise, I suppose with Life Dew it could but I’m not the biggest fan
The Ghost typing is nice to redirect Body Press though
fluid fiber
I like something more active healing wise, I suppose with Life Dew it could but ...
What about Cress?
Or is that too low in Heals
dull ibex
cyan smelt
Why did they have rilla and miraidon on the same team
dull ibex
10000
fluid fiber
Oh and this with a Perish Trap https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2099664782
cyan smelt
I hate fissure ting lu
fluid fiber
Me too
fluid fiber
I hate fissure ting lu
It was to prove to a friend it's stupid
cyan smelt
Fair
fluid fiber
I like something more active healing wise, I suppose with Life Dew it could but ...
So Terapagos, Ogerpon, Incineroar, Mienshao? And then some healing factor
Or forget healing and go more offensive with Flutter Chi-Yu as the back two
novel python
yooo 2nd day playing ranked ever and i'm already in great ball tier
idk if that's good or not but it feels good
forest arrow
Anyone got a good Farig spread?
bitter phoenix
So, with reg G out now, what rental team would be best to ladder with?
slate spindle
An ancient paradox of Gholdengo has been leaked for a surprise third part of the DLC
bitter phoenix
An ancient paradox of Gholdengo has been leaked for a surprise third part of the...
This reminds me of something I made
novel python
when will we get paradox incin with a fake out that can hit through shields?
bitter phoenix
novel python
needs more spatk
slate spindle
when will we get paradox incin with a fake out that can hit through shields?
It should release alongside the third DLC
novel python
they should make his quark drive activate on switchin and it harshly lowers attack each time
but it can only activate if there's a pokemon on the enemy team
fluid fiber
Mega Incin for Z-A
bitter phoenix
And mega chandelure (Please)
novel python
Incineroar activates intimidate
Incineroar is reacting to the mega crystal
Incineroar mega evolved
Incineroar activates intimidate
honestly if megas come back it's gonna be so nostalgic, i kinda miss them even though they were broken as hell
slate spindle
Mega Incin for Z-A
It's ability is Intimidate, but it lowers every stat of the opponent by 2 stages instead of just attack by one stage
novel python
this is balanced and should happen
fluid fiber
It's ability is Intimidate, but it lowers every stat of the opponent by 2 stages...
Indimidation
bitter phoenix
this is balanced and should happen
So should Iron death
novel python
buff mega incin's parting shot to sharply lower every stat
slate spindle
Oh, I also superbuffed Unovan Samurott
As someone who's favorite starter is Samurott, I highly approve of this
bitter phoenix
As someone who's favorite starter is Samurott, I highly approve of this
Thank u 
gentle cragBOT
Thank u <:GengHeart:674147120634396672>
tapxsf1 has given 1 Gen Rep to adamcosmic
bitter phoenix
Could it be at all viable
I haven't been on the battlefield in a while, but I haven't seen it on many teams unfortunately..
mighty stump
How good is Slither Wing in Reg G
Uhm
The likelihood is, probably not as good as other pics
fluid fiber
Didn't think so
mighty stump
Since Sun teams want to be incredibly efficient in its coverage
fluid fiber
Love the guy though
Would've loved to squeeze him on the team but I don't think it's possible lol
mighty stump
Lul
bitter phoenix
https://pokepast.es/4cc374b8ffc06109
I respect the mienshao
fluid fiber
works for me
You think it could have success in a more serious bracket?
novel python
casual's gotta better players than ranked bruh
novel python
https://pokepast.es/4cc374b8ffc06109
yooo i got the same spread on my fluttermane
i feel like you'd find more success with tera fairy though
fluid fiber
That's probably true
novel python
personally been finding a lot of success with max speed max spatk choice specs tera fairy fluttermane, definitely give it a try
as long as they have a type that fairy's supereffective against on the field you should be able to one shot it and do some serious damage to the other, sometimes oneshotting that one too
fluid fiber
About to finally beat the Indigo Disk to get Terapagos lol
novel python
even for cleanup it's good
novel python
About to finally beat the Indigo Disk to get Terapagos lol
i've been wanting to run a terapagos team but can't figure out what would be good with them
fluid fiber
Did the Teal Mask and Disk yesterday and today
fluid fiber
i've been wanting to run a terapagos team but can't figure out what would be goo...
My team is based around Pagos
strange fjord
Been playing with Terapagos on the bo3 ladder. been having some good battles
novel python
dudeeee i got stuck on lacey for a week before deciding to make a team and ev train
fluid fiber
Also Rilaboom and Sinastcha go excellently on a leftovers setup to keep resetting the ability
novel python
hit her and kieran with the ladder team and swept
fluid fiber
I just transferred my old SwSh team and swept the whole campaign
strange fjord
Also Rilaboom and Sinastcha go excellently on a leftovers setup to keep resettin...
been using that on my terapagos team. they need a hard hitter to break through
fluid fiber
Lillikoal + Tyranirock
novel python
i basically did the same 😭 transferred my urshifu and rillaboom from shield, tornadus, hisuian arcanine, and ursaluna from legends arceus, then kept my fluttermane
fluid fiber
My story team was too trash for everything
cyan smelt
my shalpha hisuian arcanine from PLA is jolly, i should really use it in a team lol
fluid fiber
Falinks, Mismagius, Iron Moth, Slither Wing, Chien Po, and Iron valliant
fluid fiber
3 Fighting Types and Mismagius
bitter phoenix
I just transferred my old SwSh team and swept the whole campaign
I used a split of my B2 and violet team for it, only one faint the entire time.
novel python
firgarif, volcarona, muk, fluttermane, galvantula, and glimmora
swapped muk out for a weezing a few losses later
was wondering why i kept losing when i had no tailwind setter, no protects, no helping hand, and my only setup was reflect and light screen
bitter phoenix
was wondering why i kept losing when i had no tailwind setter, no protects, no h...
Huh, wonder why...
novel python
i wasn't used to being challenged in pokemon games 💀
low yarrow
can some one lend me a hand here please
bitter phoenix
My team was: Chandelure, Oshawott (Yes, I used an Oshawott), Cincinno, Meowscarada, Pawmot and Ceruledge
fluid fiber
can some one lend me a hand here please
Sure
low yarrow
Dragonite & Ursaluna are a good combo for a team right i can't say mutch since im still trying hard to understand team building
cyan smelt
ursaluna wants trick room and dragonite wants chien pao next to it
fluid fiber
Ursaluna likes Trick Room to really thrive
And Dragonite doesn't do GREAT in Trick Room
bitter phoenix
They both want tera too
novel python
having a picnic in the game is so hard, "probably not best to host a picnic around so many people" "probably not best to host a picnic here" "probably not best to a host a picnic here, your things might slide off the table!"
low yarrow
wait let me friend you and take notes can i friend you real quick if you dont mind ?
fluid fiber
wait let me friend you and take notes can i friend you real quick if you dont mi...
Sure - I'm also learning comp but I've beem closely following it since SwSh so I'll help where I can
bitter phoenix
having a picnic in the game is so hard, "probably not best to host a picnic arou...
an anarchy mod would do it wonders. Also, camp in SwSh is lowkey better than picnic.
low yarrow
Sure - I'm also learning comp but I've beem closely following it since SwSh so I...
alright i friended you
novel python
and who the hell thought only being able to breed through picnics was a good idea
cyan smelt
also ursaluna is gonna struggle against caly-i in reg g imo
novel python
an anarchy mod would do it wonders. Also, camp in SwSh is lowkey better than pic...
agreed, i miss camp
bitter phoenix
agreed, i miss camp
Same
novel python
and the breeding center was in the most convenient spot ever
bitter phoenix
and who the hell thought only being able to breed through picnics was a good ide...
Apart from it being kind of confusing at first, imagine the breeding process occuring while you are eating at a picnic
novel python
that's the most confusing part bruh
like we are eating bro do not do that in front of me
bitter phoenix
If we still had the tent from SwSh, it would resolve that issue since they wouldn't be doing it out in the open.
mighty stump
also ursaluna is gonna struggle against caly-i in reg g imo
Tera
Plus they speed tie
bitter phoenix
Plus they speed tie
Interesting...
cyan smelt
what tera does regular ursaluna usually run
bitter phoenix
Normal
cyan smelt
i thought it was ghost
novel python
that's what i thought too
strange fjord
usually one of the two no?
cyan smelt
ursaluna bm runs normal
strange fjord
ghost defensively, normal offensively
novel python
thoughts on overqwil?
cyan smelt
pretty bad
novel python
why do they always make the cool looking pokemon trash
cyan smelt
idk but most of the hisuian mons are bad unfortunately
novel python
dang, no wonder i've only been seeing arc and ursaluna
cyan smelt
sometimes hisuian goodra
fluid fiber
What's the best way to EV train
dull ibex
vitamins are great for sure
bitter heart
Most fun way is BBQ grinding imo, you can use BP to buy vitamins and exp. candies from the school store
mighty stump
Well how you acquire them is entirely up to preference
BBQ grinding just isn’t the most efficient way
BP wise at least, you’d rather use it to roll for items to sell from the printer then using the money
fluid fiber
What is the most efficient way
Also anyone laying on a beast ball they don't care about - I want to catch Terapagos in one lol
mighty stump
Vitamins by selling a buncha shit
Probably takes me 15 minutes tops to get a full team together
fluid fiber
Fair
bitter heart
BBQ grinding just isn’t the most efficient way
More fun though
strange fjord
Also anyone laying on a beast ball they don't care about - I want to catch Terap...
you still need one?
fluid fiber
you still need one?
Yes actually
strange fjord
i got you. look for 1223 3369 trade code. ign is Joshua. I'd be trading a cat holding the beast ball
strange fjord
nah keep it
fluid fiber
Wow ty
strange fjord
i have like 12 of them bc i wanted a shiny female one.
fluid fiber
Oh nice
strange fjord
so i have extra.
fluid fiber
I eventually wanna shiny hunt a jumbo Slither Wing
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/4a9b8f77068d649f
https://pokepast.es/9a02261b1c29c93c
Which version is better?
I made 2 Zekrom versions, the 1st is all around great with a weakness to ice
The 2nd is 3x weak to ground but has tools around it with power herb meteor beam hitting very hard
autumn vault
Didn't expect you to be the first to reply
molten oasis
i lurk
autumn vault
Lurk in the shadows of the chat
molten oasis
mhmm
autumn vault
The 2nd can make Zekrom DDance more consistently and it is more built around it
The 1st is all around good and can do decent in every situation (i think)
molten oasis
yea, both are fine
idk how i feel about taunt on grimm but i bet you have your reasons
autumn vault
idk how i feel about taunt on grimm but i bet you have your reasons
Shuts down amoonguss and follow me users that aren't indeedee (grassy terrain helps to taunt it), it also prevents other pokemon's set up that isn't an item/other pokemon related to buffing stats. Basically Taunt gives me an advantage on other set up sweepers and let my own sweeper be the only one getting stat buffs
cyan smelt
I'm tempted to scrap my ho oh team and use lunala instead
molten oasis
it just takes over your spot for parting shot
also i like foul play grimm in concept for caly (both)
cyan smelt
Grimm needs to be able to survive two glacial lances
molten oasis
it does
charred saddle
isnt grimm faster than caly I?
cyan smelt
Yes
charred saddle
just let caly I get a boost and i think its ohko?
cyan smelt
You have to ko indeedee first to get at caly
molten oasis
You have to ko indeedee first to get at caly
its still good into it
charred saddle
drago, what do you think about tera fighting Caly I and body press 
resist steel and dark, neutral on fire and STAB BP
autumn vault
You have to ko indeedee first to get at caly
I can switch in rillaboom and then taunt indeedee
molten oasis
just play zama at that point
cyan smelt
Also unrelated to the calys people are running farig and kyogre now
molten oasis
yes
cuz kyogre with scarf (normal item) is succeptable to fo
so far stops that, and then fari also stops tclap and glide
really good partner for it
cyan smelt
Then they're tera grass to make it even more annoying
autumn vault
True
Also iirc (Sorry drago for what i am about to say) drago once used parting shot on a calyrex shadow and he couldn't ohko it, ik parting shot is really important and all but taunt + removing psychic terrain helps, besides i cant use parting shot when a farig is on the opposing field
molten oasis
you really like bringing back my mistakes
cyan smelt
Legends shouldn't have been given the ability to tera, clear amulet is bad enough
autumn vault
Sorry
Amulet atleast has a way to deal with intimidate cycling from the enemy
Intimidate is a neccesary evil, like amulet
Gen 8 legends are uneccesary evils and some gen 9 legends too
molten oasis
yea well, have fun with that
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/pok%C3%A9mon-pokemon-pokemon-swsh-calyrex-spin-gif-271074...
seriously though this is funny
molten oasis
im hoping to figure out what im doing when i get back but for now i'll come help every so often
i need this (although im so bored)
autumn vault
i need this (although im so bored)
Relatable
charred saddle
i need this (although im so bored)
do speedruns with me and trade off the paradox mons 
cyan smelt
Why did they need to make caly I so bulky
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
autumn vault
That is too bulky
charred saddle
like play on a new save and speedrun the game/dlc?
yep
autumn vault
especially factoring tr and it is fast as fuck, hits super hard and it's very hard to take down
charred saddle
i already did the speedrun like 8 times, pretty nice trade fodder
cyan smelt
And it has high horsepower for fire and steel types
neat folio
yo i have a question how do i play pokemon games on my pc if there is any way ?
molten oasis
so i'll probably eventually end up doing it
charred saddle
ogerpon is fast, it only took you like 4 hours to 5 hours
neat folio
or just how do pokemon youtubers play them if anyone knows
cyan smelt
yo i have a question how do i play pokemon games on my pc if there is any way ?
We don't talk about emulation here
charred saddle
miraidon is around 9 hours, both paradox will take 12 hours
neat folio
We don't talk about emulation here
where do i ask then?
cyan smelt
Not this server
neat folio
oh
molten oasis
miraidon is around 9 hours, both paradox will take 12 hours
mk
neat folio
i thought cuz its like competitive as in game i thought yall might know
charred saddle
yo i have a question how do i play pokemon games on my pc if there is any way ?
if you mean as in play SV in PC, they dont.
they use capture card + OBS
but if u mean emulation, its a no go topic anywhere here in the server
neat folio
if you mean as in play SV in PC, they dont.
they use capture card + OBS
so they play on eumlators ?
charred saddle
no.
autumn vault
so they play on eumlators ?
They also play on the switch
autumn vault
i mean like a nintendo 3ds
It cant run SV
charred saddle
welp anyway, no go topic
neat folio
so i need a switch bet thank you
bitter heart
3DS would explode if you ran SV on it
willow vault
Hello
wide pivot
Hey guys, I've been having some decent success with this team but it feels like it's lacking against extreme stall oriented teams. Any suggestions? https://pokepast.es/435a74924766a14e
willow vault
What in specifics, namely the Pokémon are struggling with because your team seems to have enough offense to break through stall cores
upbeat quail
Aight
People who use smeargle and muk gimmicky evasion combos deserve to step on a LEGO every morning
willow vault
Yeah
upbeat quail
I’ve been seeing too many on showdown Reg g
wide pivot
What in specifics, namely the Pokémon are struggling with because your team seem...
Zamazenta, Woo Chien mainly
willow vault
Ursaluna is really good into the combo, due to the fact it hits through sub and has stab to threaten muk immediately
willow vault
Zamazenta, Woo Chien mainly
Outside of Incineroar you lack stab super effective damage on zamazenta, also zamazenta is generally one of the harder matchups for calyrex ice, I think some people are using Tera fighting Tera blast on Calyrex ice to counter play
With wo-chien your team looks really good into it, with 2 grass types to ignore its shenanigans and both Incineroar and Calyrex to just kill it with stab super effective attacks
Hope that’s helpful
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
willow vault
Kinda forgot about that ngl
charred saddle
aside from that, wo chien isnt much used, so id rather care about other problems
wide pivot
Outside of Incineroar you lack stab super effective damage on zamazenta, also za...
Thanks a lot! I used to run Close Combat instead of Stomping tantrum but was left with no fighting coverage. I will consider tera blast for the normal coverage
gentle cragBOT
Thanks a lot! I used to run Close Combat instead of Stomping tantrum but was lef...
seydou has given 1 Gen Rep to crephace
willow vault
Thanks a lot! I used to run Close Combat instead of Stomping tantrum but was lef...
All good
wide pivot
Hope that’s helpful
Definitely, thanks for the tips ❤️
gentle cragBOT
Definitely, thanks for the tips ❤️
You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1713004136:R>.
charred saddle
if its a follow me support oriented waterpon, id rather have a bulkier one
i dont think you kinda want max max atk speed on follow me variant
wide pivot
if its a follow me support oriented waterpon, id rather have a bulkier one
i do...
Makes sense
charred saddle
u still need at least 188 jolly to outspeed max lando I,
wide pivot
It also serves as an extra sweeper when TR mode doesn't work as planned that's why
charred saddle
well, waterpon isntt gonna get much ohko anyway. it does get important KO with minimal investment already
its a different case on firepon, since you can get +1 atk
chrome knot
weyaya
charred saddle
and with waterpon you do get +1 SpD
willow vault
just "kill it"
In all fairness I see Calyrex ice my brain just accepts nearly everything just dies
charred saddle
not saying max max is bad.
just that im too used on having follow me bulky watepron
wide pivot
I put it at 188 speed and added the extra EVs to Hp. Is that the correct move?
Or should I invest it in def
charred saddle
Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Wood Hammer
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield
this is like one of the most popular set of waterpon.
iirc was made by brady
personally id move the atk even more to SpD
but its preferance id say
either woodhammer or hornleech
you can even speed creep the waterpon a bit, and have like 204 speed, just to outspeed other similar waterpon set
wide pivot
Will definitely try that, thanks a lot!!!
charred saddle
gl 
mighty stump
well, waterpon isntt gonna get much ohko anyway. it does get important KO with m...
Waterpon does good damage
Wood Hammer feels kinda troll though
Horn Leech >
charred saddle
isnt some of the important ohko are already covered with minimal investment tho?
like lando I to say
-1 due to intim incin wont get ohko, i think with max atk also doesnt get the ko unless crit
timber falcon
Wood Hammer feels kinda troll though
i thought wood hammer was better cause more damage
timber falcon
yeah i guess thats why one might go horn leech
upbeat quail
Do y’all think feint is gonna be useable in Reg G?
timber falcon
it already is
cyan smelt
to break wide guard
i didn't realise kingambit could learn snarl, i think i'll replace sucker punch with snarl
warped mason
Is jugulus worth running on miraidon teams?
Might be a decent option into caly shadow
cyan smelt
it gets snarl so sure
timber falcon
it does work, ive seen it b4
cyan smelt
ting lu also works, bulky af and lowers sp attack
cyan smelt
jugulis also learns dragon cheer for miraidon
next stump
good luck everyone in orlando today
bold geode
https://rk9.gg/pairings/ORL02mkY0cJRxgsXs1kS
Orlando pairings
atomic mural
i gotta go for wolfe again (very biased)
timber falcon
Is Wolfe there?
atomic mural
yeah
atomic mural
https://rk9.gg/pairings/ORL02mkY0cJRxgsXs1kS
Orlando pairings
i just went to this and control F
hes gonna fight Kendell edgerton first round
bold geode
Is Wolfe there?
Uh oh
He's defending the title lol
timber falcon
Oh is it still from that perish trap team
Also will the world championship be in reg G or reg F
atomic mural
g
timber falcon
Ok
atomic mural
also since in his charlotte regionals video he talked about incineroar being his goat since people weren't treating it with respect, I bet hes gonna make a zacian team
since I feel like people are gonna just look over it
timber falcon
When was Incin not being treated with respect?
atomic mural
ah
atomic mural
its bad
timber falcon
oh
polar canyon
What if wisp snarl chi yu
timber falcon
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 100 Def / 108 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Knock Off
- Parting Shot
- Fake Out thoughts on this incin?
next stump
check a website like Pikalytics or Munchstats for EV spreads
polar canyon
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water ...
Looks like the usual
timber falcon
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water ...
calced to always 2HKO 252HP/0DEF caly-ice
and live 2 high horse powers with sitrus
next stump
you wont get sitrus against caly
polar canyon
Unnerve
timber falcon
ill keep it on incin, at least i get rly good chip if i do hit it
polar canyon
check a website like Pikalytics or Munchstats for EV spreads
^
next stump
Mate check Pikalytics for EV spreads, I don't think anyone here wants to crunch numbers for a monotype team
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/d69e21db7e027868 any thoughts for a 6th mon?
idk my tw MU rn
should i add torn or something
cause i also dont have spare sun setter
mighty stump
Scarf with 0 investment???
timber falcon
Scarf with 0 investment???
i mean, it hits 232 speed which i thought was good enough
grizzled bronze
you need protect on pao
cyan smelt
Thinking about using hisuian goodra, thoughts?
bold geode
Thinking about using hisuian goodra, thoughts?
F or G?
cyan smelt
G
bold geode
Eh
Idk
I'm still on hype of Zamazenta
mighty stump
Thinking about using hisuian goodra, thoughts?
Probably alright
Like a Zamazenta without a weakness to Kyogre]
cyan smelt
Gotta watch out for Groudon though
polar nest
why cant i use miraidon in ranked?
cyan smelt
It would give me some way of dealing with archaludon too
mighty stump
why cant i use miraidon in ranked?
Regulation G isn't up yet.
Not til the end of April.