competitive_discussion

[bold geode]

Oh nvm we be eating that for free anyways

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 180+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 134-162 (67.3 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

is that for collision course?

the bulk

[bold geode]

That's for Urshifu CC which is like
The only concern I had with Urshifu
But that's with neutral Defense so

252+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. +1 252 HP / 180+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 177-211 (88.9 - 106%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
Ew this is an Adamant calc for Collision with Life Orb, but I think I'm kinda fine with that

[molten oasis]

not bad

[bold geode]

Cuz if it's Life Orb, I can Intimidate

And Clear Amulet doesn't OHKO

[molten oasis]

damn

[bold geode]

Unless like crit or HH

[molten oasis]

that bulk is crazy

[bold geode]

And is a 5/8 roll with SoR active

Which I don't think Chien Pao is on Koraidon Sun teams?

[molten oasis]

Not really but I could see it

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/35270325c08a3be1
Anyways here's Zama plastered on Spanish 6

Also realized P2 and Zama have the exact same EVs but different natures

[mighty stump]

💀

[bold geode]

I mean hey

Almost had logic

[molten oasis]

4 fighting weaknesses

[bold geode]

You shut your bitch ass up

[molten oasis]

Ik it’s fine but it still bugs me lol

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Aight let's see how we do

[torn parrot]

theres no such thing as spanish 6

you made it up

[atomic portal]

spanish 6 not as good as puerto rican 7 tho

[molten oasis]

It’s just what we call it

Ting p2 amoonguss kommo-o incineroar and flutter

Also known as the Spanish 6 (for some of us)

[bold geode]

Don't you love when you get robbed cuz you didn't speed thru all your turns

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2100051393
Winning position
But bcuz I took too much time, I lost to inactivity

Also this MU was horrible too, wtf is this Lugia stall shit I faced

[mighty stump]

its cause Alex Gomez/Eric Rios popularised the 6

[atomic portal]

@bold geode gg just beat ur ting lu team

[molten oasis]

wtf ar you playing

THAT WAS YOU???

[bold geode]

GG

[strange fjord]

too much time deciding. gotta pay attention to the timer

[bold geode]

Also not the Lugia player
Just wtf was that shit

[molten oasis]

oh got it

ltierally playing stall wtf

[bold geode]

I fucking
Gotta do something other than Spanish 6 lmao

[molten oasis]

its not working?

[bold geode]

Or rework the shit cuz I fucking hate P2

[molten oasis]

it looks stupid passive ngl

[bold geode]

I'm gonna have to work with it

[molten oasis]

ig yea

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2100140242-x1kozwh12q45h6vmut6roe95etwpj42pw
So somehow Ogerpon and Terapagos Survived BM's Hyper Voice

thanks to the Light Screen

[cyan smelt]

Terapagos is a tanky boi

[solid frigate]

i don't think he can tank that without Light screen

[cyan smelt]

Wouldn't have been able to tank a blood moon even with light screen

[solid frigate]

excatly

so thank god they misplay

[cyan smelt]

Terapagos is low-key goated

[solid frigate]

i found people jjust does not appriciate how good it is if your pour commitment on it

Grimmsnarl might be Terapagos's Consistent Partner

[cyan smelt]

Screens terapagos is a pain, comfey is a good partner too

I've seen sableye paired with terapagos I guess because it has fake out

[solid frigate]

do you know what's result i got in SV when using the bulky Version of m team

[cyan smelt]

?

[solid frigate]

just did some practice and here's the results
4-0 Groudon Team
3-0 Calyrex Ice Team
2-0 Origin Palkia Team
3-0 Shadow Rider Calyrex Team
2-0 Miraidon Team

Back to Back

I'll add the 2nd Ice Rider into it

[cyan smelt]

Groudon is goat

[solid frigate]

proceed to get 4-0 by Grimmsnarl and Terapagos

Yes,No Switch Ins.

[cyan smelt]

What about against koraidon, koraidon can really put the hurt on terapagos

[solid frigate]

i actually beat one

but tbf that guy has loads of Fire Types and They got washed by Ogerpon,Amoonguss and Tornadus Team Trio

[cyan smelt]

Yeah not too good to be overly reliant on paradoxes imo

[solid frigate]

not even Paradoxes

Is thhe Armarouge and Ceruledge

[cyan smelt]

They're still around?

[solid frigate]

for that team

and then Ogerpon and Tornadus just sweep them

[cyan smelt]

Which ogerpon, I guess wellspring?

[solid frigate]

Wellspring

[true niche]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Amoonguss in Rain: 219-258 (99 - 116.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO gg 👏

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon Wellspring: Water 🙂

also isn't Kyogre want to have Choice Scarf-

and Tera Grass

[true niche]

you have tornadus

[solid frigate]

Raging Bolt:

[cyan smelt]

Also miraidon

[solid frigate]

its Basically Tornshifu

yeah

[true niche]

ill think of 4 counters to bolt and miraidon

[solid frigate]

if you build a Team to specfically COunter these,You left so many Opening for other teams

its nothing wrong about it but still

[cyan smelt]

You should put foul play on your grimmsnarl, it's good for dealing with ogerpons, groudons and caly-i

[solid frigate]

I'll try it out

but spirit break is in case Koraidon

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't koraidon usually tera fire

[solid frigate]

fair-

[cyan smelt]

I wouldn't want grimmsnarl in front of koraidon

[solid frigate]

ok fair make sense

[cyan smelt]

Since people like to run koraidon flutter

[solid frigate]

I saw someone did that but with Calyrex Shadow-

[cyan smelt]

Flutter and caly?

[solid frigate]

yeah and Tera'd Flutter

[cyan smelt]

That's nuts

[solid frigate]

what happened Next? Gets washed by my Terapagos

[cyan smelt]

I played someone who led with indeedee caly-s, tera'd caly s into ghost and used helping hand, with life orb

[solid frigate]

and that guy has the audacity to use Astral Barrage on my Terapagos

[solid frigate]

I think Grimmsnarl can tank it with light screen

Lemme check

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Helping Hand Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 36+ SpD Grimmsnarl through Light Screen: 65-76 (32.1 - 37.6%) -- 93.2% chance to 3HKO

Not even Close-

[cyan smelt]

Nice

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Helping Hand Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 36+ SpD Grimmsnarl: 97-114 (48 - 56.4%) -- 87.5% chance to 2HKO

yeah if i am in that moment i can survive in the Psychic Terrain

[cyan smelt]

I need to fix the EVs on my team

[solid frigate]

but i need Terapagos to set up so that it won't die and still kill both

[true niche]

tera ghost, choice specs is the play

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Life Orb Tera Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Helping Hand Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 36+ SpD Grimmsnarl: 130-153 (64.3 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Tera Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Helping Hand Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 36+ SpD Grimmsnarl through Light Screen: 87-102 (43 - 50.4%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO

+1 228+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Ghost Calyrex-Shadow: 196-232 (112 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And then

Grimmsnarl is just that bulky,and i did not mention Parting Shot

[cyan smelt]

can you do a foul play calc too

[solid frigate]

I think It kills or 2HKO

252+ Atk Grimmsnarl Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 152-180 (73.4 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
For Ice
0- Atk 0 IVs Grimmsnarl Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 172-208 (98.2 - 118.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
For Shadow

[cyan smelt]

that's nuts

[solid frigate]

i mean its 4x Weak

and one is 2x Weak

[cyan smelt]

usually caly-s teras to fairy

[solid frigate]

but yeah thats why Terapagos is gonna be Grimm's Best Friend here

[molten oasis]

oh were active again i see

[cyan smelt]

punish the tera

[solid frigate]

I use the Tera to destroy the Tera

[cyan smelt]

ngl terapagos is super annoying for me to deal with, that's why i'm considering running koraidon over ho-oh

[solid frigate]

Ho-Oh is fine if you want to do stall but i can see why

[cyan smelt]

terapagos is a big problem, i can't stop it before it sets up and nukes everything

[solid frigate]

and Grimmsnarl can Set Up Reflect to basically last for 8 turns in Light Clay

so Terapagos can survive A Collision Course

252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal through Reflect: 48-56 (25.2 - 29.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

[cyan smelt]

oof

[solid frigate]

252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar through Reflect: 145-172 (56.8 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

you might can beat it when I Tera But-

if you decided to Tera
+1 228+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Fire Koraidon: 196-232 (112 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Decide to not Tera
+1 228+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Koraidon: 98-116 (56 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

timing of your tera is important

idealy you dont want sun up when it tera's

[solid frigate]

252+ Atk Koraidon Collision Course (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal through Reflect: 36-42 (18.9 - 22.1%) -- possible 5HKO
Ok thats Just sad-

252+ Atk Koraidon Collision Course vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar through Reflect: 109-129 (42.7 - 50.5%) -- 1.6% chance to 2HKO

[molten oasis]

thats with tera shell

[solid frigate]

done one with T-Zero

[molten oasis]

ik

[solid frigate]

honestly tho,I'm fine with it,Just Koraidon and Urshifu i need to be careful of

And i technically have TornOgerpon which eh maybe Kinda works?

[molten oasis]

mhmm

[solid frigate]

Yeah Basically the Version 3 of the Team is by far more Optimised

cuz V1 and V2 had virtually no Bulk

[molten oasis]

thats nice

[solid frigate]

so yeah Grimmsnarl + Terapagos,just makes things easier

[cyan smelt]

damn, caly-i doesn't care about resists

[mighty stump]

You don’t have to Tera to do damage

Tera Starstorm is still good as single target damage

[solid frigate]

yeah i did that before

[strange tundra]

I hate incin

[solid frigate]

too bad

All VGC players had to at least fuck it we ball on it

also Urshifu exists

[strange tundra]

Hs not that bqd

Just need a sp attacker

[solid frigate]

Parting Shot:

[slate spindle]

Can someone rate my SV anything goes team?
Clefable, Miraidon, Gholdengo, Samurott-Hisui, Gliscor, Volcarona

[mighty stump]

That doesn’t look like an AG team

[solid frigate]

it missed a full team of Legendaries

sorry

but yeah that team is more like Ubers but Reg G slapped into it

[slate spindle]

It's for a specific ruleset where only one legendary/mythical/paradox/ ultra beast is allowed

[timber falcon]

No it’s not?

It’s called anything’s goes for a reason

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2100198901 perfect anti-groudon MU

[slate spindle]

It's a private event with different rules. If I go in with the typical AG team I won't be able to participate

[timber falcon]

oh ok

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/ba363351ee6a4249 for this team, im struggling to find out what flutter set works best

the stars of the team and chi-yu and lunala so i wanna know what helps the other more

[polar canyon]

If that's the ruleset you could try using a legendary that benefits the rest of the team

Like a koraidon sun team or something like that

[cyan smelt]

Looks like I struggle against dozo/glimmora/kyogre

[timber falcon]

What’s the team

[cyan smelt]

Too lazy to do a pokepaste ATM but it's ho-oh/Grimm/kingambit/ogerpon-w/flutter/rilla

[timber falcon]

Hmm so shouldn’t waterpon and Rilla take care of Kyogre?

And force dozo to Tera

And force glim to Tera

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I should've led with rilla ogerpon

[timber falcon]

Yeah those 2 mons beat water/ground or rock MUs rly well

[cyan smelt]

Next time I see it I'll lead rilla ogerpon

But I'm not sure about ho oh maybe I should swap it for koraidon or Groudon

[autumn vault]

Zekrom is a very good legendary rn

With clear amulet and redirection it does so good it is actually insane

Ofc not as insane as S tiers and most A tiers since they maul anything without set up

I have been told to not use it, i have been told to use smth else, but i stayed with Zekrom and now i am a Zekrom/Koraidon main (mostly Zekrom)

Imo it is better than Raging Bolt

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2100251452 was there a point to swap into shifu? or did my opponent just feel like throwing the game

[timber falcon]

really good?

[autumn vault]

Yes

[timber falcon]

to me it seems to be just good, yk

nothing special

[autumn vault]

Have you actually tried it?

[timber falcon]

no but ive fought it

[autumn vault]

Dragon dance with a 150 attack is bonkers

[timber falcon]

see thats what im saying

[autumn vault]

you were using my shittiest MU against me so you won easily

[timber falcon]

setting up is a classic strat, nothing special. any mon can be "really good" ater setting up

[autumn vault]

true

With that typing and dragon dance it can function like a miraidon counter

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 644: Zekrom

Types

Dragon/Electric

Abilities

Teravolt

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/120/120/100/90

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[autumn vault]

They tera and then i bolt strike them, so funny when it happens

[timber falcon]

isnt mirai faster

[autumn vault]

Dragon Dance

and i find setting it up very easy with amoonguss

[timber falcon]

ok but is it pressing ddance in front of mirai

[autumn vault]

When there is redirection/FO pressure yes

[timber falcon]

and what elo has the team gotten you? just wanna see the succes

[timber falcon]

i guess this works

[autumn vault]

At like 1270 elo

[timber falcon]

hmm so low-mid ladder?

[autumn vault]

This was sooner so more mid than low

Plus i hardly grind nowadays

[timber falcon]

so early release

at the start of reg G?

[autumn vault]

Like in the 4th day iirc, 4/4/2024

[timber falcon]

guess thats ok, but the ladder is rising so it may not be as viable anymore

[autumn vault]

I battled some very good players from the showdown chatroom of VGC and i won against 2 of them

The 2 being the only battles btw

[timber falcon]

oh which ones

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2099558424?p2 This one

And a user named VGCAndre

[timber falcon]

very nice then, however im still doubting the "very good" status youve given it

seems like it needs experience and good piloting to be good

[autumn vault]

Not an A tier or S tier, but definetely B tier

[timber falcon]

whats the tier list again?

[autumn vault]

This applies to so many restricteds except the gen 3 weather and gen 8/9 legends (except terapagos)

[timber falcon]

lunala is ez to use too id argue

pretty much spam and tank

[polar canyon]

https://pokepast.es/a618a4a25579e022 I like this it feels dirty

[timber falcon]

see why are the doggos below zekrom that doesnt make sense to me

[polar canyon]

Not dirtier than screens terapagos tho

There's barely a way to beat that

[autumn vault]

Look at Zacian to Drago

It is a bit trash then it was

[timber falcon]

ive been using zama a but and its rly good

for ME

[charred saddle]

4 move no protect bolt?

[autumn vault]

Landorus incarnate murders Zamazenta, otherwise it would be in A tier

[timber falcon]

AV

[charred saddle]

and CM booster?

[timber falcon]

?

[charred saddle]

no thats booster

[polar canyon]

Honestly I barely use it because whenever I don't want to use necrozma I also don't want to use bolt

[charred saddle]

and why steel?

[timber falcon]

doesnt it do the same to zekrom

[charred saddle]

overlaps ground weakness

[polar canyon]

Grass overlaps ice weakness

[charred saddle]

fairy ?

[autumn vault]

true, but atleast Zekrom has a consistent way to outspeed it, also redirection but that applies to both

[polar canyon]

I also wanted to consider expanding force

Steel resists so

[autumn vault]

Tera Fairy Zekrom is really strong imo

[charred saddle]

theres more ground type moves than ice eh

if ur playing against psyspams wouldnt it be better with snarl AV

rather then set up and no protect?

[polar canyon]

I think I wanna swap out bolt for something else anyways

[timber falcon]

zama is more versataile and a harder mon to stop, it can easily take a specs astral barrage with 252/156/100 and checks glastrier rly well

[autumn vault]

Only because of Meteor Beam

[timber falcon]

pretty much

[polar canyon]

I don't have the best matchup against lando i

[autumn vault]

It is Calyrex-Ice who is viable

Glastrier isn't

[polar canyon]

And caly shadow

[timber falcon]

i meant caly-ice mb

[autumn vault]

Ok

[charred saddle]

well ofc. u dont have ice cover

no water, no FWG

[polar canyon]

I forgot about water

[charred saddle]

its a very weird team id say

and no, dont say ur icy wind specs mane is the one covering ur ice move

[polar canyon]

I wasn't

[autumn vault]

Well the biggest reason Zekrom is not higher in my tier list is because of Miraidon and Bolt also being electric dragons, but Zekrom is a dragon dancer and a bit different from both, and also Landorus incarnate but it also murders miraidon

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 800: Necrozma-Dusk-Mane

Types

Psychic/Steel

Abilities

Prism Armor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/157/127/113/109/77

Total

680

Base Species

Necrozma

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[autumn vault]

Seems good for Trick Room

[polar canyon]

Ik it's worse than solgaleo in stats but it gets dragon and swords dance

Solgaleo has no boosting moves

[charred saddle]

was checking the typings

[autumn vault]

It is the opposite

[charred saddle]

u have a very weak MU against ground

[polar canyon]

I know

[charred saddle]

and fire

[autumn vault]

Solgaleo is worse than Necrozma DM

[dapper crag]

Solgaleo's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Crunch, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Metal Burst, Metal Claw, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Steel Roller, Stone Edge, Sunsteel Strike, Superpower, Take Down, Wake-Up Slap, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Meteor Beam, Mystical Fire, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shock Wave, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Steel Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Cosmic Power, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Morning Sun, Noble Roar, Protect, Psych Up, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Solgaleo.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[polar canyon]

That's why I'm swapping bolt

Haven't decided what for yet

[charred saddle]

easy fill would be waterpon

and change amoonguss into like

[autumn vault]

Wellspring deals with the fire and ground types that threaten necrozma DM (except Groudon but it has the sun)

[polar canyon]

Sounds good

I've been using pollen puff a lot

[autumn vault]

This leaves the ghost and dark types unchecked

[charred saddle]

couldnt really think of a change

[polar canyon]

Wonder if comfey would be any good

[charred saddle]

id say ur flutter would be better with speed booster

if u really want icy wind

just do MB, icy shadowball protect

[polar canyon]

It's just a copy pasted set

For now

Im not gonna keep a copy pasted set forever

[charred saddle]

no, im saying as specs isnt gonna do much

[polar canyon]

Now that bolt is gone I can do booster speed

[charred saddle]

u dont have a strong partner to pair up with the damage output

[autumn vault]

Could be Chien Pao

[polar canyon]

Im not using icy wind either

[autumn vault]

It checks the ghost and dark types that threaten Necrozma DM

[polar canyon]

I'll change it to like coverage or something

Tbolt?

[autumn vault]

And Necrozma DM deals with the fighting types that threaten chien pao

[polar canyon]

Taunt

[charred saddle]

if ur not doing specs and doing speed booster

just the classic gleam MB shadowball is fine

[polar canyon]

No I'm doing speed booster

[charred saddle]

gleam MB shadowball protect

[polar canyon]

What if an urshifu single strike shows up

[autumn vault]

That is why booster speed flutter exists

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah mane

That's right

Idk most of the team doesn't benefit from chien

[autumn vault]

Booster speed looks best if you take the chien pao route

It is a great partner for dusk mane for offense

[polar canyon]

I do think healing support goes well with dusk mane

With the solid filter and everything

That's why I picked amoonguss

[autumn vault]

prism armor has the same effect as filter

[polar canyon]

Yeah that's what I mean

It's the same thing

[solid frigate]

2-0 the Miraidon team

and whats funny is that Terapagos got frozen and Raging Bolt Coming in Clutch

[polar canyon]

Bout to start running brick break dusk mane just for screens terapagos fr

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

Brick Break after terapagos screens

[polar canyon]

So what do you guys use for healing other than pollen puff amoonguss?

[solid frigate]

Heal Pulse

but like idk-

[polar canyon]

I wonder if comfey would work

It's like fully built for support

And has the bulk of a twig

Actually I don't remember the stats

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 764: Comfey

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Flower Veil, Triage, Natural Cure (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

51/52/90/82/110/100

Total

485

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[polar canyon]

That could be worse

[solid frigate]

so far no brick Breaks tho when i test

hiusi Lilligant Team might cause me trouble

[polar canyon]

Brick break doesn't even ignore screens itself

It breaks the screen but still does reduced damage

[solid frigate]

no i mean,Sleep Powder Hisuian Lilligant

and then Trick Room Team

[polar canyon]

I went against terapagos + sableye and it just taunted my spore

Then terapagos was unkillable behind screens

[solid frigate]

unless Brick Break

[polar canyon]

Nothing I could really do

[solid frigate]

thats the Only thing

[polar canyon]

Is it tho

[solid frigate]

technically

[polar canyon]

252+ Atk Urshifu Brick Break vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Terapagos-Stellar through Reflect: 88-104 (32.9 - 38.9%) -- 98.6% chance to 3HKO

[solid frigate]

but i don't see a single Brick Break Mon so-

[timber falcon]

low ladder is hell

[solid frigate]

My team has some interesting Results in SV

[timber falcon]

does it beat fricking orthworm?

[polar canyon]

Results aren't accurate in casual battles

Don't expect most players to be high skill there

[solid frigate]

ik,its some testing

[molten oasis]

Yes

[solid frigate]

ok Terapagos is in Critical Health and what am gonna do-

aaaaaaaaaaaaand Chien Pao is still my bane of my existance

but the very least,this team is solid

[molten oasis]

Anyone wanna bo3?

[timber falcon]

me

after i finish this game im in

u there drago?

anyway ive just fought a dazzling gleam zamazenta

[solid frigate]

w h a t

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

it wasnt even one with the shield

[solid frigate]

+2 Sin

Not Only a Special Attacking One, HERO FORM???

send me a Replay

I am so confused what is the opponent

is doing

[timber falcon]

i dont have the replay

but he led arbok kommo-o

[solid frigate]

fair,last time i fought a Miraidon i saw him use Thunderbolt-

[timber falcon]

and ran altaria and A=golemn

[solid frigate]

what the fuck is this team-\

[vestal elk]

guys is eturnatis darkrai thundous ho ho grimsnarl and the violet mai npokemon is it good

[solid frigate]

what-

Eternatus,Darkrai,Thunderous,Ho-Oh,Grimmsnarl and Miraidon?

[vestal elk]

yee

[solid frigate]

first things first,for what format

[vestal elk]

double

jus tcasual

[solid frigate]

do you have Pokepaste

[vestal elk]

nope

[molten oasis]

I lost to someone running leaf storm shadowrex

which one shot my groudon

[solid frigate]

What. the. fuck.

[molten oasis]

Fucking stupid

Incredible skill

[solid frigate]

build that team in Showdown and use Pokepaste on it to send it to here

[vestal elk]

kk

[solid frigate]

Wait is it the same Groudon team you used before?

[timber falcon]

low ladder?

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

No I’m in like 1300’s

Then I lost to one with clesr amulet spamming calm mind and then a miraidon cuz groudon barely missed a ko on it

[solid frigate]

can you send the Spread for Groudon

[timber falcon]

oof#

i cant get to 1300 with zama rn its s struggle down here

[bold geode]

That
Sorta makes sense?

[solid frigate]

lemme check

[molten oasis]

Helios (Groudon) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Precipice Blades
• Heat Crash
• Swords Dance
• Protect

[solid frigate]

172+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 176-210 (100.5 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Calm Mind Set

[autumn vault]

swords dance is interesting

[autumn vault]

Not a single Miraidon on the planet will run 0 bulk

[solid frigate]

alright lets add some

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 4 HP / 52 Def Miraidon: 176-210 (100 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

max bulk for miraidon to tank precipice blades at 252+

[vestal elk]

yo

https://pokepast.es/a05a0bfb2482ea11

[solid frigate]

172+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 4 HP / 52 Def Miraidon: 168-200 (95.4 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

RIP

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 68 Def Miraidon: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[autumn vault]

Wow the bulk needed to survive is quite a lot

[vestal elk]

ev for only eternatis is correct imma fix them ltr

[solid frigate]

The Grimmsnarl. WHAT THE FU-

i'm not done yet

Tornadus Incarnate is way better

[vestal elk]

ohh ok

btw tornadus have the dark colak mb i missed

[solid frigate]

Jotaro (Grimmsnarl) @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 212 Def / 36 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature

• Spirit Break/Foul Play
• Reflect
• Light Screen
• Parting Shot

Use this Grimmsnarl

[solid frigate]

Covert Cloak?

[timber falcon]

this isnt for vgc right?

[vestal elk]

nah just casual pvp

[solid frigate]

Casual but it looks Miserable-

[vestal elk]

yee

[vestal elk]

breh im new cut me some slack

[timber falcon]

is it doubles

[solid frigate]

it is

[timber falcon]

the whole team needs changing

not the mons

just the sets

[solid frigate]

the Movesets and EVs

[vestal elk]

i jus twanna keep ho oh n etaratis

rest i can change

[timber falcon]

they are both bulky, so u benefit frim grim

[solid frigate]

Grimmsnarl is too valuealbe

[vestal elk]

hmm

do i remove some guys or

[solid frigate]

@vestal elk use this Grimmsnarl

[vestal elk]

kk

no fake out??

[solid frigate]

There are other Fake Out Mons thats are better than this

[vestal elk]

ok

btw i dont have dlc

[solid frigate]

Iron Hands?

[vestal elk]

i have

[solid frigate]

wait then how did you got Ho-Oh,From SWSH?

[vestal elk]

i traded

[solid frigate]

fair enough

if you don't have DLC,so no access to Incin and Rillaboom,so Iron Hands is the next Best Thing

[vestal elk]

ig

u think i can trade for it??

[solid frigate]

hmmmmmmmmmm if you want to trade then go to #trading_sv for Incin or Rillaboom,but its your decision on running them

[vestal elk]

k who do i replace

[solid frigate]

Darkrai? what Pokemon do you want it revolve around

[vestal elk]

enternatis n ho oh

[solid frigate]

ok so its Stall Team,Grimmsnarl can stay

[vestal elk]

k

[solid frigate]

Miraidon and Darkrai had to leave,they are fast Attackers and Darkrai requires some finess to use

[vestal elk]

oke

[solid frigate]

i want to say Suicune to replace darkrai but you don't have the DLC so thats that

[vestal elk]

i can it np

i have entai

someone will give for that right

[solid frigate]

idk it depends

also Tornadus Incarnate is more valueable in Doubles

[vestal elk]

ok

[vestal elk]

so ikeep tornadus but bro id kwhy but i cant re learn its siganure move

[solid frigate]

Bleakwind?

[vestal elk]

ye

[solid frigate]

well you can learn that by level up i remember

[vestal elk]

kk

lvl 77

just 2 more

[solid frigate]

yeah good

[vestal elk]

what abt miridon

[solid frigate]

Miraidon i would consider it as a Backup if Stall Team does not work,consider Miraidon and Stall Teams don't exactly work that well

[vestal elk]

do ireplace him??

[molten oasis]

im not having fun

precipice blades missing is actually the worst

[vestal elk]

i got a few leg to use

[molten oasis]

why did I pick groudon when ik my rng is awful

[solid frigate]

keep it as a Backup

[vestal elk]

ok

how abt moves for the pokemon??

[vestal elk]

if i get rillaboom or inc do i replace him with them

[solid frigate]

Electro Drift
Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
Dazzling Gleam
Calm Mind/Flash Cannon(If you want to be Tacky with it)

[solid frigate]

Darkrai,cuz its too hard for new comers touse it

[vestal elk]

kk

[solid frigate]

Ok so the Current team rn,

Eternatus,Ho-Oh,Grimmsnarl,Tornadus Incarnate

Suicuine and Rillaboom will be added if you have it

[vestal elk]

yes

what abt moves for suicune n rillaboom

[solid frigate]

don't worry i have the sets

[vestal elk]

kk

[solid frigate]

Think this could at least be good in Casuals

wait Suicune is wrong

https://pokepast.es/0cda7178e611ef53
Better

Lum Berry also works

on suicunie

[molten oasis]

I’ve noticed a pattern

My precipice blades all miss on incin

[solid frigate]

I'm literally watching Wolfey's Incin Video when you said it

[molten oasis]

Lol

[timber falcon]

finally hit 1200

[solid frigate]

Yoo welcome to the gang!

[timber falcon]

ill be staying a while

[molten oasis]

Nice

Keep it up

[timber falcon]

btw i added huge additon

lando got swaped

[quartz monolith]

Hey, what's a good restricted mon I could play with this?

[timber falcon]

for galar moltres

[solid frigate]

Let Him COOK.

[solid frigate]

Koraidon,

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2100345787 im cooking

[solid frigate]

your team looks like a Galar+Paldea Team lol

[quartz monolith]

Why? I don't run any sun mons besides Flutter, and it would probably be to replace Arcanine

[solid frigate]

chien Pao Lowers defense-

Koraidon can support,FLutter Mane,Arcanine,And Chien Pao Supports Koraidon to deal more damage

[solid frigate]

bro swore in Spanish like Paldea-

[quartz monolith]

Hmm, alright, I'll probably swap Latios then

[timber falcon]

oh that was a swear?

[solid frigate]

Try Swap Primarina or Latios,and see which is better

[solid frigate]

lemme check

my god but how good

Nvm its not swear

[timber falcon]

oh so a compliment

[quartz monolith]

The main reason for Primarina was because I was encountering a lot of Trick Room Torkoal on ladder and it pissed me off lol

[solid frigate]

fair,but do some testing

[solid frigate]

yea

[quartz monolith]

Alright, here's the team so far, I ran out of good items to put on mons lol
https://pokepast.es/88350d95cb801cd0

[solid frigate]

hmmmm

[charred saddle]

huh

why sash and bulk on mane? it doesnt make any sense

[autumn vault]

Too much bulk for a sash flutter

[charred saddle]

and mane doesnt need sash that much

chien pao needs it more

if ur running sash mane, do max speed max SpA and timid
if sash is in mane, chienpao can use LO, which is generally harder to pilot since its so frail to bullet punch or just prios in general

and chienpao kinda wants ghost tera

Harc dont need LO, it can run sitrus AV or Choice band

[charred saddle]

?

sash and bulk doesnt go together

sash means no ohko and lives 2 hit.

bulk for mane is usually to ensure enough to live certain OHKO thresholds

which is also quite similar to 2 hit scenarios.

[solid frigate]

Sash works when you do Max Max Min

[mighty stump]

babilu

[charred saddle]

ha?

[charred saddle]

haram bro

[mighty stump]

buat lo

[charred saddle]

astaga

[mighty stump]

bukan buat gw

[charred saddle]

lebaran bro, salam toleransi la

ckckck

[mighty stump]

Mohon maaf lahir dan batin

[charred saddle]

[chrome knot]

tofu

[autumn vault]

It is to live surging strikes, outside of that reason it is just wasting evs

[charred saddle]

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 116 HP / 76 Def Flutter Mane on a critical hit: 138-165 (95.1 - 113.7%) -- approx. 87.5% chance to OHKO

too much bulk

too much bulk?

this is scarfed.

[autumn vault]

yes ik

That was way more than i thought, i am getting too used to bulky flutter manes surviving too much

[mighty stump]

my day has been ruined

[mighty stump]

whats up

[solid frigate]

what happened?

[chrome knot]

hai hru

[mighty stump]

I found a worm in my favourite packet of oreos, literally the first oreo I pulled

[chrome knot]

EW wtf

[solid frigate]

Ok as an Oreo Enjoyer,this is a Tragedy

[mighty stump]

Im so upset

[solid frigate]

i feel you man,it just sad

[solid frigate]

can you refund it?

[charred saddle]

mampus lu

kena karma bangsat

[vestal elk]

yo so no need incenaroar

[mighty stump]

anjing lu mati

babi pemain 1000s

[charred saddle]

anjing gw dlu dah mati sih

its a cute dog

[mighty stump]

beli lagi gw PTS

[solid frigate]

you got rillaboom?

[charred saddle]

bangke

[mighty stump]

babi

[charred saddle]

gw msih ada satu sih

[vestal elk]

nope

[mighty stump]

gw makan nih

[vestal elk]

some dude trading me incinaroar

[charred saddle]

dasar cina, apa apa dimakan cuih

[solid frigate]

ok I'll send my Incin build

[mighty stump]

benar babi

bilang aja lo gk bisa masak

[charred saddle]

cuih, saya jg mata sipit

[solid frigate]

VGC Menace (Incineroar) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 204 HP / 4 Atk / 188 Def / 84 SpD / 28 Spe
Impish Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Fake Out
• U-turn

Its kinda ok, can barely survive Urshifu without Intimidate

[mighty stump]

tapi gk bisa masak cih

[charred saddle]

bisa masak gw babi

[vestal elk]

kk

[mighty stump]

tapi makan anjing gk bisa

[charred saddle]

ngomogn tntg babi, lg ngidem babi merah yg di nasi campur gw

[mighty stump]

cina palsu

[vestal elk]

yo how do i ev train exactly like those numbers??

[solid frigate]

10 Evs = 1 Vitamins/Mochi
1 Evs = 1 Feather

[solid frigate]

south east asia?

[mighty stump]

Yea

What about it

[solid frigate]

no i'm just curious

[vestal elk]

insead of rilla this right

[solid frigate]

yeah

[vestal elk]

k

[chrome knot]

using both causes a rly toxic core with urshifu water (!!)

[next stump]

bro how are asian nationals happening on Reg F 💀

[chrome knot]

LMAO

[next stump]

the company that makes this game is so shit

[chrome knot]

ive been saying this

[next stump]

VGC will maybe reach 25% of its total esports potential because of them

[mighty stump]

yay

[solid frigate]

ok i saw a Miraidon had no ELectro Drift

[timber falcon]

low elo shenanigans

[solid frigate]

yep I don't know what is going on for it

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2100380869-uj13z6mhrpcgkgywbkatigkg79hydazpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2100378116-gstyj4qz88hxz3ki2iejw1u48488mo4pw

i am just-

[lethal zinc]

Thank you for the Ramadan Pokemon set. @mighty stump

[gentle crag]

amonganronpa has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[molten oasis]

How we doing

[quartz monolith]

Alright, I've dropped the other team, and I'm having a lot more success with this, ignore the Slither Wing, he comes up in very niche scenarios and I'm keeping sash flutter
https://pokepast.es/cfa79b92d7fe5907

[solid frigate]

I'm just in disbelief Low Elo rank use Miraidon in the most worst ways

[molten oasis]

I’m still annoyed about the leaf storm caly

[solid frigate]

No EDrift.

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

I was expecting it but he just fuck it and use Parabolic Charge on my face

[molten oasis]

I’ve seen parabolic charge but no edrift is really weird

[solid frigate]

Dragon Pulse,Calm Mind,Protect and PC

i was like:This Miraidon is Worse that Snorlax-

[mighty stump]

Go on

What were you about to say about Snorlax

[solid frigate]

I haven't finish the Question

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

or sentence

[solid frigate]

Like Snorlax i know its very good,I used it. its good,but This Miraidon makes it from BS Broken to become bad.

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[timber falcon]

snorlax very good?

[molten oasis]

[timber falcon]

i smell delusion

[mighty stump]

You wanna say that again

[molten oasis]

Don’t do it it’s not worth it

[timber falcon]

no

[solid frigate]

yep i am getting screwed

this is fine

[timber falcon]

tofu is saving u

[molten oasis]

Speaking of which tofu we getting a snorlax team when the meta settles?

More

As it’s hectic rn

[timber falcon]

i mean it takes on both calys

with thick fat and normal typing

[molten oasis]

Thick fat heheh

[mighty stump]

Yea

Imi gonna delete Caly-Ice off the face of the earth

[molten oasis]

Good

[mighty stump]

and any physical mon really

[molten oasis]

That and shadow rider can die in a fire

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 143: Snorlax

Type

Normal

Abilities

Immunity, Thick Fat, Gluttony (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/110/65/65/110/30

Total

540

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[solid frigate]

wait with what set tho

[mighty stump]

That's for me to know and yo to find out

[molten oasis]

We’ll just have to see

[timber falcon]

wtf snorlax has how much Hp????

i thought it was like 100

[solid frigate]

same as Terapagos Stellar

[molten oasis]

Unlike myself tofu keeps his sauce secret

[timber falcon]

except terapagoss bulk is better overall

[molten oasis]

my sauce is not very unique so idc half the time

[solid frigate]

Snorlax technically could be better if you know how to

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[molten oasis]

I’ll probably do some gapdos thing down the line

It’s just too early to see if it’ll be any good

[timber falcon]

once meta comes into light im gonna try make palafin work properly

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

Curse Body Press anyone-

[mighty stump]

Curse Body Press is bad

[molten oasis]

You’re still trying to get Pala to work

[timber falcon]

ghost and fairy

[mighty stump]

Tera Ghost makes you sac yourself with Curse

[timber falcon]

ive taken a break to see hpw reg G is gonna go

[molten oasis]

Top 10 ways to lose with snorlax

Do that

[vestal elk]

yo dude

[timber falcon]

does lax run belly drum

[vestal elk]

i got urshifu

[molten oasis]

It can

[solid frigate]

think so

[mighty stump]

I don't run BDrum or Curse

[timber falcon]

oh?

[molten oasis]

Tofu built different

Simple as that

[timber falcon]

last lax team i can see he built was reg E

i can be wrong

[solid frigate]

Let him cook and he does right

[vestal elk]

yo do u think i can add urshifu to the team since i got it

[timber falcon]

which team

[molten oasis]

What is saidvteam

[vestal elk]

https://pokepast.es/0cda7178e611ef53#

[molten oasis]

Yoo

[solid frigate]

ok then remve Suicune with Urshifu,But what Form of Shifu

[timber falcon]

oh my god yawn

[vestal elk]

water n fighting

[solid frigate]

Ok then Urshifu over Suicube

[timber falcon]

ETERNATUS GETS METOER BEAM?

I SMELL THE NEXT MON IMA USE

[charred saddle]

sleepy spread and move

yawn

[vestal elk]

k

can u send build

[timber falcon]

Yawn is a move i never wanna go against tbh

counter??

[molten oasis]

Kingambit nuke button

[solid frigate]

yeah Meteor Beam Set actually used

[molten oasis]

idk what it’s for im just spitting

[molten oasis]

But like, Lunala infinitely better

[timber falcon]

yeah im so gonna run eterantus after ive mastered the art of zama

[solid frigate]

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 68 Def / 124 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Aqua Jet
• Surging Strikes
• U-turn
• Close Combat

[molten oasis]

Cuz shadow shield

[solid frigate]

Lunala is just Bulky as fu

[timber falcon]

btw drago i changed the zama team a bt

[molten oasis]

Paste?

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/f3ea2d32c9880160

[molten oasis]

Also my user is still correct if any of you were curious, school sucks ass

Didn’t we go over that

[timber falcon]

go over the team?

[molten oasis]

Thah looks like what we did last night

I don’t see what changed

[timber falcon]

shifu

and it now runs wide guard

[molten oasis]

Oh right you had wellspring

That’s good, I like shifu here

[timber falcon]

after testing i found it too difficult to run as main offence mon

[molten oasis]

Wellspring?

[timber falcon]

so i added lots of pressure from outside mons

[molten oasis]

Oh zama

[timber falcon]

yeah

i like having zama at the back

[molten oasis]

Ok, it’s still an offense Mon tho right?

[timber falcon]

i know but as the main one it struggles

cause lack of coverage

[molten oasis]

Ah, yea just don’t use it as support lol

[timber falcon]

yeah ive ditched that idea

[molten oasis]

Not rn at least, in double sure I could see that

[timber falcon]

watched a reg zama use dGleam earlier today

[molten oasis]

Tf

That’s almost worse than the leaf storm shadowrex I fought today

[mighty stump]

Btw

+6 252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Thick Fat Snorlax: 187-222 (73 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[timber falcon]

at least it correlates with its stats

[timber falcon]

ok so it walls lance

[dusty gate]

What a chonky boi.

[timber falcon]

ghost tera right?

[mighty stump]

2x Counter (+6 252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Thick Fat Snorlax) vs. 252 HP Calyrex-Ice Rider: 374-444 (180.6 - 214.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[timber falcon]

lmao caly-ice eliminator

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Thick Fat Tera-Ghost Snorlax in Sun: 109-130 (42.5 - 50.7%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO

[molten oasis]

Hype

[timber falcon]

oh so its to wall physical attackers mainly?

[solid frigate]

Boi

[vestal elk]

yo will ife orb work for him??

[molten oasis]

Just go scarf

[solid frigate]

Scarf Urshifu is better

[molten oasis]

You hit hard enough and the speed is important

[vestal elk]

how much is scarf

[molten oasis]

Uhh

[solid frigate]

10,000?

[molten oasis]

50,000 pokedollars I think

I remember the choice items being really pricey

[vestal elk]

ohh

[solid frigate]

honestly its super expensive

[vestal elk]

i have choce specs

[solid frigate]

SPECS DOES NOT WORK ON PHYSICAL ATTACKERS-

[vestal elk]

broooooooooooooo

100k???????????????

[chrome knot]

._.

[molten oasis]

Oh damn

[chrome knot]

why you actin like it hard to get money in this game

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[vestal elk]

i dont play much

[solid frigate]

What the actual.

[molten oasis]

We have gambling

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[molten oasis]

And grinding the tournament

[vestal elk]

me rn

[chrome knot]

hahah fr

[solid frigate]

i just love Gamefreak finally reintroduce Gambling since RBY

also yeah i need to grind More BP points cuz i used for my Reg G Team

[molten oasis]

Well then, sounds like it’s time to go grind raids

[vestal elk]

k guys tks gn

[solid frigate]

i used Terapagos For Raids before I built it for Competitve cuz why not i love le Turtl

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[timber falcon]

We taking about gambling?

[solid frigate]

Kinda wanna use Zamazenta,but eh-

[solid frigate]

the Item Printer is just so profitable

[timber falcon]

Who made this

[timber falcon]

Fr I’m broke but it’s worth it

[solid frigate]

this is the Restricted Legendaries i used currently

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

How have u managed to use all

[solid frigate]

I only used 4-

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

U should use dialga

[solid frigate]

Zacian,Koraidon,Dialga,Dawn Wings and Zamazenta are mons i want to use but just don't know

[timber falcon]

Looks cool

[solid frigate]

4th favourite Legendary

[timber falcon]

What’s no.1

Nvm

[solid frigate]

Giratina

[timber falcon]

Oh I thought for sure terapagos

[solid frigate]

Giratina(It just looks menacing)
Terapagos
Lunala(Prefer it more than Solgaleo)
Dialga(Mystery Dungeon Moment)
Zygarde(Obvious Reason)

[timber falcon]

No.1 for me is Lugia

Then Groudon

[solid frigate]

Lugia is such nice Pokemon

[timber falcon]

Mhm

[solid frigate]

sadly i'm not really a Stall user so i have no strong opinions using it

[timber falcon]

By second fav

Yeah lugia is gonna be HARD to get to work

It might have a chance in double restricted I’m hoping

[solid frigate]

You know whats Funny,Before USUM,my favourite Legendary is Giratina,Then Before PLA its Necrozma then

And PLA Giratina snatch back the Throne

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-pokemon-the-pokemon-company-nintendo-volo-gif-25043143

this battle Make me put Giratina back into my favourite Legendary

[molten oasis]

I have now pivoted to max speed Hearthflame cuz I need to outspeed wake lol

Oh what are we discussing?

[timber falcon]

It made me love volo

[solid frigate]

Favourite Legendaries

[molten oasis]

I see

[solid frigate]

He is sure something else

[timber falcon]

Best Pokémon game

[molten oasis]

You all know my top

[solid frigate]

we know you are Zacian,and honestly its fine

[timber falcon]

Gapdos?

[molten oasis]

But do you know my top 3

Legendaries

[solid frigate]

But people thought Terapagos is my favourite

Nope,Giratina is my top

[timber falcon]

Hmmm

[molten oasis]

Restricted too

[solid frigate]

Zacian,Groudon and whats the final one-

[timber falcon]

Gapdos , zac , lugia

[molten oasis]

Gapdos isn’t my favorite of all time

[timber falcon]

[molten oasis]

It’s like, 11th

I think I don’t remember

[timber falcon]

Oh

[solid frigate]

Giratina,Terapagos,Lunala,Dialga,Zygarde

Little Bit Basic but still)

[molten oasis]

Don is up there ya

[timber falcon]

Dondozo!

[molten oasis]

I used it when I first played

And I like it rn, no dondozo is stupid

Don is groudon for me

[timber falcon]

Them whose don

Ohhhhhh

I love Groudon cause of his primal

[molten oasis]

The third restricted is something I’ve played with

im curious if any of you could get my top 3 ever

[solid frigate]

Same but Kyogre

Actually i like Dialga cuz Mystery Dungeon

[timber falcon]

Kyogre inferior

[molten oasis]

If Yk shut

[timber falcon]

What under the ocean? 🗣️🔥

[autumn vault]

Top 3: Zekrom Ogerpon and Regigigas
Top 3 restricteds: Zekrom Giratina and Koraidon

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/61oFE03ZFAY?si=Affx7CnmRDkTMLwu

GOATED

[timber falcon]

Ogerpon already a fav?

[molten oasis]

Alr, the third restricted is Kyurem white

[autumn vault]

Always has been

[solid frigate]

Honestly tho,Based

[timber falcon]

Very nice

[molten oasis]

My top 3 hasn’t really changed since indigo

Hydrapple Zacian Alolan Ninetales

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/space-astronaut-stars-gif-13793499

[solid frigate]

Top 3:Giratina,Terapagos,Lunala
Top 3 Restricted(Usage):Terapagos,Kyogre,Lunala

[timber falcon]

I just realised I don’t have a 3rd one

[molten oasis]

Btw, don’t expect a hydrspple rental out of me

[timber falcon]

U gave up

[autumn vault]

Top 3 restricted (usage): Zekrom Koraidon and Zamazenta

[molten oasis]

Hydrapple doesn’t do shit in restricted there’s like, no reason to use it

[timber falcon]

There’s always a reason

[molten oasis]

Yea, gimmicks

[timber falcon]

Sentimental value

[molten oasis]

I care a lot about consistency

Hydrapple is not consistent

[timber falcon]

True

[autumn vault]

But still your favourite

[molten oasis]

Both with and without fickle beam it’s just a very mediocre Mon

Yes cuz hydrspple has such an awesome design and I love its shiny

[timber falcon]

I’ve mentioned it a bit, but does anyone know my top 1 mon?

[molten oasis]

palafin

[autumn vault]

Calyrex-Ice

[timber falcon]

Nope

[molten oasis]

No idk

[autumn vault]

Or Palafin

[timber falcon]

Lycopoky called me a gem 3 boomer for liking it

[autumn vault]

Did i?

[molten oasis]

Metagross?

[timber falcon]

Or whatever gen was hoenn

[autumn vault]

It is Groudon right?

[molten oasis]

Yes 3

[solid frigate]

But if its Top 3 Favourite Mon of all Time

Greninja,Garchomp,Whimsicott

[timber falcon]

It was swampert

[molten oasis]

Ah, fair

[timber falcon]

It was from the first Pokemon ep that I watched an can remember

[solid frigate]

Swampert is just the dude man

[molten oasis]

You’d be surprised how much competitive affects how I like things

[solid frigate]

we love it

[solid frigate]

I'm kinda both but more lean to Casual

[autumn vault]

My top 3 favourite pokemon ever: Excadrill Zekrom and Garbodor

[timber falcon]

I just like those beeg and flat hands

[molten oasis]

I’ve shared this before multiple times but

[timber falcon]

Garboder huh

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/greninja-pikachu-frogadier-lightsaber-purpe-gif-25696651

[timber falcon]

Interesting for sure

[molten oasis]

Dengo Hearthflame Prima and gapdos are literally so high up because of comp

[autumn vault]

Leave my Trash alone

[solid frigate]

still my first Starter

[timber falcon]

Greninja was peak in anime

X and Y best series

[molten oasis]

It’s the only season besides unova I watched

[solid frigate]

It's my first starter and i main him in smash

Yeah now you can see why i love Fast/Tailwind

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t interest me much

[autumn vault]

The only Pokemon Animes i saw were the Sun and Moon and Journey

[timber falcon]

Noooo

U missed peak

[solid frigate]

DP,XY,Journeys,Horizons

Also Terapagos tanked Rayquaza's Attack,Good boi

[autumn vault]

Not like i care

[molten oasis]

If I want to see fighting in an anime I’m just gonna go watch a different action or if I want to do something Pokémon id just play vgc lol

[timber falcon]

We all have our preferences

[autumn vault]

True

[timber falcon]

I tend to be nostalgia blinded but hey it’s nice

[solid frigate]

heck i literally make Greninja a New form because it got nerfed(It's broken Trust Me)

[solid frigate]

Nostalgia is nice

[autumn vault]

I am a permanent gen 5/4/PLA stan for life

[solid frigate]

Gen 6 Stan for life

[molten oasis]

I plan to do some art down the road with favorites

[timber falcon]

Pla took my nostalgia glasses off ngl

[molten oasis]

I don’t much but I can draw

Was a big hobby when I was younger

[solid frigate]

Base:
HP:72
Attack:95
Defense:67
SpA:103
SpD:71
Speed:122

Ash/Bond Greninja Form:
HP:72
Attack:140
Defense:67
SpA:153
SpD:71
Speed:132

Stellar Form Greninja:
HP:90
Attack:100
Defense:100
SpA:153
SpD:110
Speed:140
BST:693

I swear I am just Terapagos Pilled,don't worry,I'll make Delphox and Chesnaught Later

[timber falcon]

Crazy stats wtf

[molten oasis]

Why you give it mixed attacked syndrome

[solid frigate]

i want to give Greninja More Sp.Attack,but like i just stay the stats cuz if i give More SP Attack,It's gonna go wild

[molten oasis]

Give it more bulk

[timber falcon]

It had to be balanced SOMEHOW

No more bulk

[molten oasis]

Ok then

[timber falcon]

We don’t want a caly-s repeat

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

Well I got stuff to do bye

[timber falcon]

Bye ima also go eat my dinner

[solid frigate]

See ya all later

[autumn vault]

Bye guys

Got to go do some irl stuff

[next stump]

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Twitter · Apr 10, 2024, 6:00 PM

[molten oasis]

1437 so far with support moon

[timber falcon]

very nice

WAIT

LMAO

zama team

[molten oasis]

Lol

Im starting to genuinely consider wake over bolt I’m not really bringing it

[timber falcon]

i mean i dont like to change teams mid ladder grind so i dont rly have an opinion on that

it ruins the flow for me

[molten oasis]

Fair

[timber falcon]

welp i think im ending showdown for the day

leaving things on a good streak

ill try and grind to top 300 tomr and move onto the next team

[molten oasis]

Just like btw

I don’t play to reach top ladder I play to find consistency on teams

[pearl wind]

[molten oasis]

Grinding ladder is not fun in the long run

[timber falcon]

i just aim for 65 GXE and about 1500 elo

[molten oasis]

I have goals to hit on the ladder

Yea

[timber falcon]

this is my sign that the team works

[molten oasis]

Stuff like that

[timber falcon]

yeah 1500 is about top 300 rn

ladder is small rn

[molten oasis]

Neat

[solid frigate]

back

Welp

[molten oasis]

Keep playing, gotta keep pushing to improve

[timber falcon]

i reccomend rentals or stealing succesful sets/mons to succed

i hit my 1st competetive breakthrough (getting past 1200 ) by spamming meta mons and having an understanding about them

i didnt use rentals though, more of showdown stealing

[autumn vault]

How do people take pictures like this that looks good, i have to use my mobile device to take these photos and as usual they look pretty mid

[solid frigate]

i actually did in Reg F, and almost crack 1400