#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
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yeah

polar nest
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is this why i am 9 for 21

molten oasis
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You’re leaning WAY TO FAR into the rain aspect of the team

polar nest
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oh

solid frigate
molten oasis
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More like raging bolt

polar nest
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yea i lost to a sun team earlier

molten oasis
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But yea, it’s not great

polar nest
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oh i gotta go ill be back

molten oasis
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What do you, ok nvm then

solid frigate
molten oasis
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I need to study deeper into pieces that help zacian to succeed

solid frigate
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you got this man

molten oasis
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For sure, rilla shifu and zacian

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Those 3 work well together

solid frigate
atomic mural
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bro what is this i just wanna ev train my raging bolt

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willow vault
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https://pokepast.es/e6dc7d60b35b9a34, need some help on potentially switching Palkia for a different, more consistant restricted. I am happy to use rapid strike, to regain the lost water type.

willow vault
molten oasis
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Faster fo to stop incin, shifu should beat it, and it lets Zac set up

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So I’ll probably continue to cook from there

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I will help out here tho before that

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So Palkia isn’t working out?

molten oasis
willow vault
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homestly everything else has been great, Palkia just either throws or does ok, no real great games.

charred saddle
molten oasis
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Yea

charred saddle
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dragondeeznats

solid frigate
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Bruh

charred saddle
molten oasis
willow vault
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namely something with better accuracy, I cant take so many misses anymore

molten oasis
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hmm

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What did you like about Palkia?

solid frigate
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also Zacian should Get Spirit Break arkeknine

molten oasis
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It won’t hit very hard I regret to say

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So like, I like play rough but god missing that move hurts

willow vault
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it hits pretty hard, has solid bulk. Dislike its speed tier and accuracy

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 484: Palkia
Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/120/100/150/120/100

Total

680

Other Formes

Palkia-Origin

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willow vault
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typings also good

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 484: Palkia-Origin
Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/100/100/150/120/120

Total

680

Base Species

Palkia

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molten oasis
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Have you tried origin?

charred saddle
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the funniest shit ive done with palkia is dragon cheer + spacial rend is guaranteed crit KEKWlaugh

molten oasis
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Just curious before replacing it

willow vault
solid frigate
bold geode
molten oasis
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That is fair

charred saddle
willow vault
bold geode
charred saddle
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no

molten oasis
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Mk, so let’s just, I think the team would need a bit of a rework

polar canyon
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I forget it's high crit rate

willow vault
bold geode
charred saddle
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its a failure, and ive thrown the team into the bin

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fuck off

bold geode
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Show anyways

molten oasis
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K, are there other restricted you’ve been eyeing?

bold geode
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Wow
I'm trying to help bro

molten oasis
bold geode
willow vault
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as long as its not calyrex, im all good

charred saddle
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then promise me u wont ever comment a single shit about it poliwhirlkek

molten oasis
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Monke I was not talking to you lmao

solid frigate
willow vault
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not the stupid horse

charred saddle
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tbf idk what im doing with it

molten oasis
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Hmm, immediate or set up?

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Damage

willow vault
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or anything with comfey, that awful thing is in my nightmares

molten oasis
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I’m not gonna do anything like that dw

solid frigate
willow vault
hard wolf
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is walking wake useable

polar nest
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ok i a back

charred saddle
solid frigate
willow vault
molten oasis
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Honestly, ik monke just said this but zama doesn’t seem too bad with your hatred for comfey

molten oasis
polar nest
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im think maybe i could put rillaboom on the team?

willow vault
molten oasis
willow vault
polar nest
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yea ik

hard wolf
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with groudon looks like good coverage, gets flamethrower which is sun boosted

polar nest
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so i needa figure this out

molten oasis
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So like, since you want to do Archa I’m assuming let’s start with Archa and torn and go from there

willow vault
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is zama idbp?

molten oasis
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Yes, that’s zama’s thing

willow vault
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cool

solid frigate
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i feel like my team is kinda towards Balance-

surreal echo
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I FUCKING LOVE BULK UP GROUDON

bold geode
solid frigate
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but how do you know your team is FO,Balance and Stall

surreal echo
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it's so good into the caly-i matchup

charred saddle
willow vault
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I have no idea th zamazenta spread so if anyone has it can you share please and thanks

solid frigate
molten oasis
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I don’t have one sorry

willow vault
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all good

molten oasis
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I haven’t played it yet

surreal echo
molten oasis
surreal echo
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immediately tera fire and slaughter them with +1 precipice

molten oasis
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It lets Archa just be a bulky special attacker that’s constantly boosting and hard to remove

surreal echo
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and clear amulet stops incin shenanigans

polar nest
molten oasis
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So like, you go from there to torn, torn wants covert cloak with bleakwind rain dance and tailwind rhen 1 of the following, icy wind taunt and protect

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Cloak prevents fo which is very very prevalent rn

polar canyon
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I really wanna try dusk mane because while solgaleo is better in almost every aspect it doesn't have any boosting moves, but it's so hard to make dusk mane work

atomic mural
molten oasis
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From there scarf rapid strike urshifu works well

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Then rillaboom with sitrus or miracle seed

polar canyon
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I wish necrozma got high horsepower just because

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Or even tantrum

molten oasis
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Than lando I, strong special attacker and pairs well with rain with sandsear storm

surreal echo
atomic mural
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perfect

surreal echo
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i haven't actually optimized it yet

molten oasis
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Not sure what to do for last, can you get that in a paste?

surreal echo
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i will probably optimize it though now that i know this team is worth using

molten oasis
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Ok since I’m able to I’m gonna go theory build

polar canyon
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What if solgaleo + coaching

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Natural clear body

molten oasis
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If I see a mienshao or riolu im removing it from the field immediately, coaching shit is so annoying

willow vault
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Ill take the zamazenta advice but Im gonna go test idea for a while, because I have no idea how to use zamazenta and whats good with it

polar canyon
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Zamazenta has coaching

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Zama + solgaleo 2 restricted meta

molten oasis
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ZMa is a IDBP user

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Oh in double sure

willow vault
polar canyon
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Both‼️

willow vault
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I know I meant ev spread wise, I had no clue

polar nest
polar canyon
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Have I mentioned how I think it's funny to pretend to defend something that's obviously not good or true

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I'm role playing as stupid

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Normally I'm only a bit stupid

molten oasis
polar nest
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ok i have seen those now

molten oasis
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With these sets

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Op, give rilla sitrus berry over assault vest

tough idol
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Been afk a while then, not the first suggestions you've ignored.

molten oasis
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The the last spot can be incineroar or fluttermane

charred saddle
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reg F?

molten oasis
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Yes

charred saddle
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ye ye

willow vault
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what spread are people using for both raging bolt and urshifu-r for reg g?

molten oasis
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Idk

polar nest
willow vault
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ok

molten oasis
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Just whatever spread from reg f

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You do not need politoed

willow vault
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oh yeah true

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I just forget alot

polar nest
bold geode
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You said the same thing bruh

molten oasis
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why do you want politoed

bold geode
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Politoed is shit

polar nest
polar nest
polar canyon
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Wait wait necrozma has dragon dance

molten oasis
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Yo no, chill

bold geode
gentle cragBOT
polar canyon
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Tbh both are being rude

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No ones in the right here

polar nest
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fair

molten oasis
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Whatever, politoed isn’t good

willow vault
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I'm in the wrong?

molten oasis
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I would not suggest running it

polar nest
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ok

polar canyon
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It's true but you don't have to phrase it like that

bold geode
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Yeah Politoed is kinda crept now weirdly?

molten oasis
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Incin or flutter are good here, ogerpon wellspring as well

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Just pick from those

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Raging bolt is also solid

atomic mural
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is bulk up or swords dance better on groudon

molten oasis
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I’ve seen more swords dance just cuz groudon doesn’t seem to need the defense boosts

polar nest
molten oasis
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Especially with the incin partner

molten oasis
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Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Horn Leech
  • Spiky Shield
  • Follow Me
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Use this

willow vault
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time to play ladder

polar nest
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welp

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imma prob spend like 2 days or so ev training and leveling

charred saddle
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why the speed on rilla?

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and 2 closecombnat on shifu?

polar nest
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wait i did two

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oop

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i ment detect

atomic mural
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Groudon the Top G

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(Pun intended)

timber falcon
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Araquanid?

atomic mural
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im cooking

timber falcon
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Maybe

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Is it there for wide guarding

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And that only

polar nest
charred saddle
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id suggest change the tera on torn then its ok ig?

polar nest
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ok what tera?

timber falcon
polar nest
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ok

timber falcon
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And rilla definitely should have Hp investments there

atomic mural
timber falcon
atomic mural
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and because of its really decent bulk

atomic mural
charred saddle
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if u wanna do a bleakwind spam thing with torn, max speed spA is too much, but you do need some investment on it and steel tera

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if not its usually a bulky spread

timber falcon
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I say torn must have bulk if not sashed tbh

charred saddle
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that depends on which team is it on poliwhirlkek

polar nest
charred saddle
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i already put on a context if it is on a bleakwind spam

polar nest
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yea

timber falcon
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Bleakwind spam needs prot no?

polar nest
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tera steel and some bulk

charred saddle
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but most team rely on torn as in a util thing, as usually no bulk = ur easily getting wiped when setting up

solid frigate
timber falcon
charred saddle
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feels like bleakwind spam doesnt really need protect

timber falcon
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I mean it has no bulk

polar nest
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k i gave it prot and more bulk but i gtg

timber falcon
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It’s gonna crumble so how u gonna be able to spam after tw

charred saddle
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you just need a good MU when u are doing it, since most of the time ur clicking protect ur just wasting a TW turn

solid frigate
charred saddle
timber falcon
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I mean torn is a mon u wanna get rid off in the last few turns of tw no?

charred saddle
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not really? if it stays long enough it can just set up another TW

timber falcon
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I meant for the opponent

charred saddle
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i mean that depends on the opposing side condition

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if ur torn is a util thing and doesnt do a lot

timber falcon
charred saddle
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then ye, but if u meant as in opponent, getting rid of it early isnt bad

potential taunt, bleakwind speed drop is annoying

timber falcon
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Well what I’m trying to say is a torn with 0 bulk is gonna struggle to get a safe tw off

charred saddle
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getting a tw is safe, but its usually dead after setting it.

i generally just bonk the torn slot and let it set TW, and set my own TW the next turn if i do have it

that way i stagger a turn of TW, then i can safely stall out turns

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but ye generally want a bulk

polar nest
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noted

willow vault
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welp laddering went well, I need to sleep soon its like midnight, hit 1200 again. Zamazenta is really good, thanks for the help Drago!

solid frigate
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just for fun

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atomic mural
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ok so I was playing online and I still won but this chi yu who was tera blast tera grass with no item plus 2 special attack into my tera fire groudon and i just died (the calc says I never die even to a crit)

willow vault
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I like the calyrex tier

atomic mural
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+2 252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Tera-Grass Chi-Yu Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Fire Groudon on a critical hit: 166-196 (80.1 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

solid frigate
willow vault
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understandibly

solid frigate
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i want to use Dialga or Koraidon but idk

willow vault
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Koraidons very good

solid frigate
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also now i see the list most of my used mons are at least close Blue-

cyan smelt
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I kinda want to use Dialga origin

solid frigate
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Terapagos:Blue and little bit of Teal
Kyogre:Blue
Lunala:Purple
Miraidon:Purple

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Yep Blue

willow vault
solid frigate
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3 of them are Blue versions Legendary

willow vault
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I have used, Zama, Palkia, Palkia-O and Groudon

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Palkia-O was my least favourite

solid frigate
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Terapagos,Kyogre,Lunala and Miraidon

willow vault
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I have 2 blue, 2 red

solid frigate
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3 Blue and one DLC

willow vault
solid frigate
willow vault
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im suprised you have kyogre over miraidon rn but fair enough

solid frigate
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and i prefer Kyogre over Groudon

willow vault
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I prefer Groudon

solid frigate
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and Miraidon i am not very good at Terrains

willow vault
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fair enough

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anyway Im going to bed, cya

solid frigate
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see ya

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Tailwind>Weather>Terrain>Trick Room

willow vault
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Don’t dis trick room, it’s epic

solid frigate
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Tailwind is mostly my better play,Trick Room is the worst for me cuz idk how to play Well

willow vault
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Definitely

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I mostly played balance tbh

solid frigate
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Balance as well i think for my team

polar canyon
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Whatever it is

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My creature

atomic mural
surreal echo
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rahhhh i love groudon

warm whale
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Does anyone have the Full Spreads for the EUIC Masters winning team?

timber falcon
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lets goooo arkeknine

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grizzled bronze
timber falcon
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28W 6L my best record

grizzled bronze
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very good performance

timber falcon
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indeed, i think with this score ima put the team into the "yeah it works" for bo1 and try bo3 next

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wide guard mindgames bouta be insane

slate walrus
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Question, this a good Mega Zard X moveset?

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I want to prepare just in case Legends ZA has competitive Mon and proper battling.

chrome knot
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._.

slate walrus
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WAAAAAIT

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they took away Roost for Zard, those bastards

grizzled bronze
slate walrus
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Screw it just the nature then

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Jolly or Adamant?

grizzled bronze
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there's natdex format if you wanna play around with megas

slate walrus
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Oh

timber falcon
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Only mainline games have official competitions

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Anyways about the set, don’t u want some bulk?

steel idol
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When you transfer pokemon from arceus are there ivs random? Or are they based off of arceus ivs (idk if the games use different stats)

dapper crag
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Item: Charizardite X

If held by a Charizard, this item allows it to Mega Evolve in battle.

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timber falcon
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 6: Charizard-Mega-X
Types

Fire/Dragon

Abilities

Tough Claws

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/130/111/130/85/100

Total

634

Weight (Low Kick BP)

110.5kg (100 BP)

Height

1.7m

Introduced

Generation 6

Base Species

Charizard

Egg groups

Monster, Dragon

Gender Ratio

M: 87.5%, F: 12.5%

Required Item

Charizardite X

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Black

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steel idol
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Ah so how do u go about making competitive viable pokemon that are hisui

timber falcon
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H-arcanine has seen some succes

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 6: Charizard-Mega-Y
Types

Fire/Flying

Abilities

Drought

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/104/78/159/115/100

Total

634

Weight (Low Kick BP)

100.5kg (100 BP)

Height

1.7m

Introduced

Generation 6

Base Species

Charizard

Egg groups

Monster, Dragon

Gender Ratio

M: 87.5%, F: 12.5%

Required Item

Charizardite Y

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Red

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
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Ability: Tough Claws

This Pokemon's contact moves have their power multiplied by 1.3.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
steel idol
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I meant how would you make a perfect iv hisui pokemon if some need to evolve in arceus to fully evolve

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Such as any of the starter hisui final evolutions

timber falcon
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Oh how to make the ivs perfect?

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Well the only way is to transfer it to SV if u wanna use bottle caps

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U can’t tamper with ivs in Legends Arceus

steel idol
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Ah so u gotta use bottle caps

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Thank u!!

gentle delta
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Unironically does anyone around here have an Alcremie spread 👉 👈

warped mason
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Anyone got a good lugia team?

molten oasis
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What a great nap (5 pm to 2 am)

pearl wind
molten oasis
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Was making a team and then just knocked out

pearl wind
molten oasis
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idk what i need to do with zacian rn or building with any restricted

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this is si new for me and idk how to handle it

molten oasis
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expect nothing out of me, im done

solid frigate
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just woke up

molten oasis
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im litereally done this game sucks

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cant do shit anymore, building or playing

solid frigate
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i'm stressed on the format

molten oasis
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so im done, i cant do anything, i feel incapable of any kind of success

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with anything i play

solid frigate
molten oasis
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id really like you to convinve me otherwise

solid frigate
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ok finally a Kyurem black team i see

solid frigate
molten oasis
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cuz i literally played 10 games and lost all of them

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yesterday i played like 20 and lost 15

solid frigate
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is it all from Play Rough misses?

molten oasis
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NO

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its from this team having a bad mu into every single thing i fight

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caly ice? oh you lose cuz of their tera

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groudon? oh you lose cuz of their tera

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koradion? oh you lose cuz of their tera

solid frigate
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I think its because bad optimization

molten oasis
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hearthflame? you just lose

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torkoal? you just lose

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lando torn? you just lose

solid frigate
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if you are that stressed just take a break from Compeitive

molten oasis
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the way i play literally doesnt work in this format

solid frigate
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there are more resources after like a month

molten oasis
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you NEED speed control i feel like you NEED wide guard you NEED a counter to both caly's

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does not feel like "play better" for me its just "get lucky and hope you didnt get absolutely rolled"

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all of the teams

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and i mean, ALL of the teams ive build according to everyone seem fine then i go play them and they feel bad

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every single fucking one

solid frigate
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I have speed Control,and thats it.

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Its Calyrex's Partner Indeedee what makes it fustrating

molten oasis
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im not playing zacian, thats it

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"top 10" my ass

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why is EVERYTHING I TRY FOR IT FEEL TERRIBLE

solid frigate
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i'll make you feel better

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I lost to a Zacian Team,Its not really about you playing bad,its just the Competition for Zacian just too Much after the nerf

molten oasis
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ok so that guy has more success going for him, thats awesome

solid frigate
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and you know what,I'm fine with it.

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I lose to Calyrex Teams multiple times,and i know its BS,if not Indeedee or Mienshao helping it.

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Some Pokemon have partners more obvious than Others

molten oasis
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there are hardly partners for it otherwise

solid frigate
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My team barely count as a good team

molten oasis
solid frigate
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My team Barely has Bulk

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no Calyrex Counters

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well maybe Chi Yu and Terapagos but Chi Yu died so quickly

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but this team solidified on what i am gonna use

molten oasis
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you have a direction on where you want to go

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i dont, at all

solid frigate
molten oasis
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all you need to win is to play the horses

solid frigate
molten oasis
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k, sorry

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im tired

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figuring things out

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torn works well

solid frigate
molten oasis
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with rain the tera fire's on all the damn sun setters then explode to shifu

mighty stump
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Saw someone mention Tera Stellar Tera Blast on Zacian and thought

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Why not

charred saddle
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lah lah

mighty stump
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bikin gw mau retire

charred saddle
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KAWOAWKOWAKOWAK

mighty stump
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dlm 6 mnit 4 org mengeluarkan kebegoan yng sangat

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dasyat

charred saddle
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hhave u seen my newest shit recipe tho

mighty stump
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oh no

charred saddle
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itu jg kebegoan yang waow

molten oasis
charred saddle
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i think u saw the palkia and sceptile back then but this was like the end result of fuck around

and then im like "yeah its not going to work"

molten oasis
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i opened it saw sceptile and closed the tab on my laptop

charred saddle
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HAHAHHA

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i changed a lot of things and then it became worse by the minute

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and then "fuck this shit"

molten oasis
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lol

mighty stump
molten oasis
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maybe ill mess with that in the future

charred saddle
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can you like knockoff zacian zama?

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i dont think so right

molten oasis
charred saddle
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the best fuck around and find out for today is

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what the hell am i cooking

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idk why they didnt tera the zacian tho shrug

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and yes its a dumb set, just funny

willow vault
charred saddle
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played 4 games with it, 4-0 currently.

only tried lando twice

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one is this, and one more against groudon so i just spammed grass knot

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and yes grass knot for groudon

grizzled bronze
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isnt life orb just better

charred saddle
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LO is in metagross

grizzled bronze
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oh i see

charred saddle
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so yes, its also part of the uhhh plan

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but yeah LO 1.3 plate is 1.2

molten oasis
charred saddle
molten oasis
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the kitchen is in flames

charred saddle
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fuck KEKWCRY

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oh the funniest shit too is

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since like most ogerpons are like 188 jolly

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"why the hell should i go timid then " poliwhirlkek

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either i set TW or get outsped anyway

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and so its modest HAHHA

molten oasis
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lol

charred saddle
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and also, if theres like waterpon i dont think ill bring it anyway

molten oasis
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fair'

willow vault
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thanks for the suggestion of zamazenta @molten oasis, its really good.

gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
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zama is really good

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im not touching it

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for now, but its good

willow vault
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fair enough, still using zacian?

molten oasis
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i pinpointed a core finally

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zac torn shifu

willow vault
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oooh

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very nice, speed control + stupid damage output. I like it

molten oasis
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the whole issue with shifu being its best friend is being unable to remove groudon and koradin post tera

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because of sun

willow vault
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true

timber falcon
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anyone wanna bo3?

molten oasis
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so to counteract that we add torn with rain dance

willow vault
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smart

molten oasis
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OTOT sure

timber falcon
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ok LunalaTotorules

molten oasis
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then atm i just have double fo

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and wellspring

willow vault
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fair enough, i scrolled twitter until I found someone who used zamazenta and used their 6 mons

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they didn't have the sets shown so just the pokemon were copied

willow vault
molten oasis
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gg

timber falcon
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gg

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man that was rly close, my heart beating so fast PikaLmao

molten oasis
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no it wasnt

timber falcon
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it was

molten oasis
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you 4-0ed me

timber falcon
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wait i did?

molten oasis
#

yes

timber falcon
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oh i didnt see my other mons

molten oasis
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it wasnt close at all

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and its crazy you thought it was

timber falcon
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yeah mb

molten oasis
#

can we go again?

timber falcon
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i thought it was final 2v2

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sure

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i keep forgetting to open team sheets that mb

molten oasis
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what a great mu

timber falcon
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gg

molten oasis
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gg

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love that FUCKING CRIT

timber falcon
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rng is a savior or curse

molten oasis
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its a curse

timber falcon
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btw is that shifu max max

molten oasis
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no its just max speed

timber falcon
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oh ok cause i thought grassy glide would OHKO

molten oasis
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it doesnt

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again?

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im trying to figure this mu out, ive fought it a few times on ladder

timber falcon
#

sure

willow vault
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What’s the matchup?

timber falcon
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lunala chi-yu

molten oasis
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lunala chi yu

willow vault
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Ah ok

timber falcon
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ok so incin is a problem

mighty stump
timber falcon
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gg

molten oasis
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gg

molten oasis
timber falcon
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incin is a problemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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i should be more careful with that mf

molten oasis
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snarl just helps

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cuz that lunala is really hard to remove otherwise

timber falcon
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true meteor beam is what i rely on

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i should come up with new leads for things like that

molten oasis
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your shifu is single strike?

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could absolutely go rapid strike if you wanted to

timber falcon
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yk what thats a great idea

molten oasis
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you arent getting scarf btw

timber falcon
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ik

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im just gonna do sash

molten oasis
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ok

timber falcon
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or mystic ill decide later

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but then again dark shifu is a very nice endgame finisher so i might keep the team the same except find a way for my incin/torn MU

molten oasis
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if you want sash id just keep single strike

timber falcon
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yeah

molten oasis
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idk if wellspring is staying yet

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didn't feel great

timber falcon
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my team is rly good against it

molten oasis
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the other 5 are fine

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maybe shifu grass tera instead honestly

willow vault
#

Raging bolt is really good is your aren’t already using it

molten oasis
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could do that

timber falcon
#

after that match im left unsure if the team works all that well

molten oasis
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calm mind bolt probably

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you beat me twice, that mu sucks

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for me, its a good team

timber falcon
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true i guess, but 2-0 isnt something i wanna take from an MU i knew was coming

molten oasis
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you beat me in 2 sets

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and i beat you in 1 set

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the team is fine

timber falcon
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yeah but uts that MU man

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i cant do anything abt it and i might see it when going against the high ladder ppl

molten oasis
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ok

timber falcon
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maybe ill just kill incin t1 or smth with meteor beam and power gem

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welp ima do some battles so practice some more

molten oasis
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cool

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gl

timber falcon
molten oasis
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slither wing yay

timber falcon
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i lost

willow vault
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I swear on all that’s holy, if I have to play against Smeargle + muk again I’m gonna lose my mind, it’s not hard to win against but it just takes so long to win each game

molten oasis
#

its lame

willow vault
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It really is

timber falcon
#

friking bulldoze gouging fire screwed me up

molten oasis
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its a really stupid and annoying strategy

molten oasis
#

CTS moment

timber falcon
#

then he flare blitzed and finished lunala with korai

molten oasis
#

oof

atomic mural
timber falcon
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it was actually rly good for cts

atomic mural
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that’s why he thinks it is gonna win worlds. (The child doesn’t know the difference between closed and open team sheets )

molten oasis
#

lost to a dondozo

#

running tera steel

willow vault
#

Damn

molten oasis
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feels bad man

willow vault
#

What else was on the team?

molten oasis
#

caly

timber falcon
#

im losing to stall eternatus wtf

molten oasis
#

ice, and the bitch was body press

willow vault
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Oof

timber falcon
#

no way i got toxic stalled in friking doubles

mighty stump
#

lul

willow vault
#

Is it similar to how dondozo was paired with ting-lu before? Stupid + other stupid equals pain

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

never happening again

atomic mural
#

This is when you run taunt

mighty stump
#

So far i've kinda just watched a good 10 minutes of like

#

complaining

timber falcon
#

complaining good

willow vault
#

Mostly what this chat has become tbh

timber falcon
#

AND NOW I LOST TO A HEATWAVE MISS

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im taking a break

willow vault
#

Gotta expect it. If it can miss it will

autumn vault
gentle cragBOT
timber falcon
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free rep hehe

willow vault
autumn vault
cyan smelt
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Wait why has tofu's name changed colour

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Undercover

atomic mural
timber falcon
#

Retired staff

gentle cragBOT
mighty stump
#

I retired

willow vault
#

Why does it matter?

autumn vault
mighty stump
#

Yea to summarise

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Pretty good summary

timber falcon
#

What takes

willow vault
#

My Palkia takes probably didn’t help

autumn vault
#

around here i think is when the takes happened

mighty stump
#

It's a mix of somewhat poor attitudes, a lot of misinformation/poor approaches, and then becoming kinda an echo-chamber

willow vault
#

Oh that

autumn vault
#

Afnan Bezos did not help with the takes

mighty stump
#

Engaging with him was also not a good idea, yet it continued

molten oasis
#

apparently you can skill swap inteped sword

willow vault
#

Yeah that was terrible enough, I couldn’t bother reading it

molten oasis
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ill send the replay

autumn vault
#

Ok

cyan smelt
#

Afnan Bezos is a troll, ignore him

autumn vault
#

Lets block him

molten oasis
#

i think we found the zacian team that works, so far

autumn vault
#

So you finally got a good Zacian team

molten oasis
#

i pretty much alternate the set up mon between bolt and zac depending onm u

autumn vault
#

I haven't played any matches yet with my zekrom team, but you're team looks like it can manage calyrex ice much better

molten oasis
#

i almost forgot

cyan smelt
#

I've put foul play on my grimmsnarl to deal with caly ice

molten oasis
willow vault
#

Oh nice you switched out the Ogerpon

molten oasis
#

oh and a benefit of zacian's typing, it checks all the teras of caly-s is except normal, which behemoth blade rolls through anyway

#

so, thats good

autumn vault
#

true

#

Congrats on finding success with Zacian, after all of that effort you deserve it

willow vault
#

That’s so smart from the indeedee, that’s mad

autumn vault
#

It only activates once per battle

molten oasis
#

no but like, that still caught me off guard

willow vault
#

Useful for the indeedee though

autumn vault
#

The reverse intrepid sword was also very good

cyan smelt
#

Why did they skill swap intrepid sword back onto rillaboom lol dumb

autumn vault
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For rillaboom

molten oasis
#

it was for incin

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they wanted the intimidate

autumn vault
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And that is also useful

molten oasis
#

not that it mattered zacian at neutral ohkos tera dark caly s

mighty stump
molten oasis
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woah

#

that guys character sprites is sick

autumn vault
molten oasis
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also damn shifu's built different for that

autumn vault
#

252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike in Rain: 158-186 (89.7 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

molten oasis
#

tera water

autumn vault
#

252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike in Rain: 237-279 (134.6 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

molten oasis
#

hmm

atomic mural
mighty stump
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lol

#

Chien-Plowed

atomic mural
#

Ok

willow vault
#

Really cool rayquaza team

molten oasis
#

youre not assault vest as you said 1/8th chance

mighty stump
#

Lol

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Yeah, 2/16 roll to live

#

I spoke with the guy to chat

molten oasis
mighty stump
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He said Timid

atomic mural
#

Why run rayquaza and waste your restricted when you can just do dragonite and zacian

mighty stump
#

Because Dragonite doesn't let me KO Groudon in Sun with Urshifu-RS

molten oasis
#

2/16ths is like, what 13%?

willow vault
#

I think it’s 12.5%

gentle cragBOT
#

Result: 0.125000

molten oasis
#

ok, not gonna share it

#

but i got it lol

mighty stump
#

wut is it

molten oasis
#

oh wait its probably scarf fuck

mighty stump
#

im Mystic Water

molten oasis
#

wait, no cuz youre not scarf

#

was the kyogre scarf?

mighty stump
#

yh

molten oasis
#

god dammit i was tera grass on the kyogre for some reason

#

IM GETTING CLOSE

#

something like this? 252 SpA Tera-Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 124 HP / 172 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike in Rain: 188-222 (98.4 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

mighty stump
#

Nope

molten oasis
#

am i close at all?

knotty mirage
#

What best item for terra grass incin that's not berry or AV ?

mighty stump
#

Kinda

molten oasis
#

more or less ev investment?

mighty stump
#

more hp less spdef

molten oasis
#

k

mighty stump
#

no maxed out stats

molten oasis
#

252 SpA Tera-Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 196 HP / 140 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike in Rain: 196-231 (98 - 115.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

mighty stump
#

very close

#

like 8 EVs off

#

204 HP

molten oasis
#

oh ok

mighty stump
#

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Mystic Water
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 4 Def / 140 SpD / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Surging Strikes
  • Aqua Jet
  • Close Combat
  • Protect
molten oasis
#

what is that bulk for?

autumn vault
mighty stump
#

Thunderclap, Moonblast, Wild Charge

molten oasis
#

from specs?

autumn vault
#

seems like a very bulky urshifu set

molten oasis
#

no not specs lolo

mighty stump
#

But you tera for it

molten oasis
#

oh really? oh got it

autumn vault
#

I use another bulky urshifu but it is trained to tank a T-Clap and not specs moonblast and wild charge

willow vault
#

I thought it was 212hp + 132spd

molten oasis
#

i just need my shifu fast as its scarf lol

#

so i dont have much bulk

autumn vault
#

I used to use a bulky one, offensive urshifu is really nice

molten oasis
#

im considering grass tera although i have tools to handle amoonguss so im probably fine

#

gonna go taunt over icy wind

autumn vault
#

Also the username @molten oasis is me rn, also grass/fire tera is nice on urshifu

#

Surging strikes can handle ground and rock, fire handles the grass types and burns

molten oasis
#

im steel atm

#

its been fine

autumn vault
#

Good to know you are doing good rn

molten oasis
#

at 3 am i wasnt

autumn vault
molten oasis
#

fair

#

ngl dont love bolt making me weaker to caly ice and groudon but its fine

autumn vault
#

If you can manage those, then bolt is fine

molten oasis
#

torn shifu handles don

#

zacian shifu rilla handles caly, i say all 3 cuz ive seen a mix of fire and water tera

autumn vault
#

Ok

#

Well i will go have lunch soon, after that i have to practice against Ice-Horse with an Onion mounting it

molten oasis
#

oh i got paid today, time to spend $50 on more cards

#

maybe

#

gonna go check out a hobby shop i passed by the other day on my way to work

#

anyway time to close discord and work on homework

chrome knot
#

Regulation F

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

low elo is legit the worst pokemon youll ever watch what was that

solid frigate
#

meanwhile me who go out of my mind using Chi Yu for no reason

chrome knot
solid frigate
#

its the plays looks weird,why he did not Fake out,is he anticipating a Protect?

chrome knot
#

no every turn was just awful

solid frigate
#

ik

timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
#

Also deedee with no follow me is bold

chrome knot
#

jesus christ that gallade set

#

and what on fucking earth is that indeedee

solid frigate
#

i get it i suck,i don't know trick room BS

timber falcon
#

Trick room is hard to master, I recommend using the hard hitting mons first to see what it’s about

chrome knot
#

i keep looking and it keeps getting worse pls do not use iron defence body press on heatran

timber falcon
#

Like for a bit I used caly-ice and got a pretty good observation on how tr works and ways to stop it

#

Also use regular sets

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

trust me i dont want to see it

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

If ur looking for sets for mons that aren’t really meta I do recommend having a look at pikalytics btw

solid frigate
#

i'll try

#

oh great a Koraidon team

autumn vault
#

You have hot garbage sets

solid frigate
autumn vault
#

That turn 2 was so tragic

#

You atleast still won

solid frigate
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
#

bruh shut up Rotom

timber falcon
#

Lmao

chrome knot
#

i think ill calm mind infront of koraidon

solid frigate
#

ok Emma we know you are good you can stop dissing me

chrome knot
#

just wanna know what ur thinking

autumn vault
#

I would have protected ngl

#

And spam bleakwind

#

If it teras i can go with tera stellar starstorm and wipe it out

solid frigate
#

at this point you make me feel worse

chrome knot
#

sorry but you are sending replays to be watched

autumn vault
#

True, also you wasted that tera basically, if i went to the offensive with tera i would use tera starstorm and murder the koraidon before it gets really annoying

#

Still great damage onto rillaboom, or tailwind and starstorm

#

Still played a bit poorly

atomic mural
solid frigate
#

ok somehow because of the Sp attack drops now my Bolt has Def boost

willow vault
solid frigate
willow vault
#

Why?

solid frigate
willow vault
#

But like why not kommo-o? There are other better choices

solid frigate
#

anyways gonna go to dental

autumn vault
#

I am playing a Bo3 and my opponent's gholdengo is spamming D-Gleam 💀

timber falcon
#

if i use CC on terapagos stellar is it super effective?

autumn vault
#

yes

timber falcon
#

after like 13 games i have succesfully risen by 4 elo

#

also it’s not to know I can hit terapagos hard, that things been giving me trouble

autumn vault
#

I also played against another team with Zamazenta, i also won that and Landorus-Incarnate is staying just because of zamazenta

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

its not

#

i fell off and went up and back and fourth

#

my Win rate dropped a bit too

autumn vault
#

I played 38 matches, won 22 lost 16

#

57.2% win rate

#

You are unfortunate, i take this back

timber falcon
timber falcon
timber falcon
#

it helps a bit

#

cause u couldve pollen puffed it and had an easier W

#

but overall gz for beating one of the annoying restricteds

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

oh ok

solid frigate
#

36:38 in Reg G

#

almost 50%

upbeat quail
#

Illumise @ Focus Sash

Ability: Prankster
Level: 50

Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 12 HP / 244 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Encore
  • Dazzling Gleam
  • Sweet Scent
  • Tailwind

Ok not gonna lie this illumise pairs super well on a sun team with Groudon and Venusaur. Tailwind and Encore speak for themselves, D-Gleam for chip damage, and sweet scent helps the accuracy of sleep powder and precipice blades

solid frigate
upbeat quail
#

Illumise is not ideal, but it’s fun

timber falcon
#

why not just that

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

🤝

solid frigate
timber falcon
upbeat quail
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 314: Illumise
Type

Bug

Abilities

Oblivious, Tinted Lens, Prankster (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/47/75/73/85/85

Total

430

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
#
Pokémon No. 547: Whimsicott
Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Prankster, Infiltrator, Chlorophyll (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/67/85/77/75/116

Total

480

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
#

idk it seems like whimiscott still the better mon

upbeat quail
#

It probably is in the majority of cases yeah.

solid frigate
#

whimsicott feels better cuz its fast

timber falcon
#

mhm

#

and better chip with stab Dgleam

solid frigate
#

i just use Moonblast for Whim

#

because ya know WIDE GUARD

upbeat quail
#

Yeah true, but illumise fills a better role on my team personally, just thought I’d post a fun set.

upbeat quail
solid frigate
#

Sakura (Whimsicott) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Light Screen/Taunt/Fake Tears
  • Tailwind
  • Encore
  • Moonblast
solid frigate
timber falcon
#

also dont u want tera ghost#

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

cause sash is useless if u cant stop FO

solid frigate
upbeat quail
timber falcon
upbeat quail
timber falcon
#

whats the full team?

solid frigate
#

what makes Whim have a bit of an help against other prankster mons like Tornadus,Because its the fastest Prankster User

warped mason
#

Seems like Ray is chien pow's new best friend.

timber falcon
#

raypao actually works?

warped mason
#

Yea lol

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

ive never lost to it

#

easy pickings for me tbh

warped mason
#

I've just beaten it, but sd is scary.

solid frigate
#

i mean what is your team against it

timber falcon
#

meteor beam lunala arkeknine

warped mason
#

It can be annoying for all the groudon teams

upbeat quail
#

EVs are subject to change

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

looks good, but how do you activate venasuar and illuminise together?

timber falcon
upbeat quail
warped mason
#

Me when I see a groudon team without walking wake
🙁

solid frigate
timber falcon
warped mason
#

Got this prepared in game

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timber falcon
#

yooo shiny groudon

solid frigate
upbeat quail
warped mason
#

Thx, its a bit tricky against trickroom calyrex ursaluna teams tho

timber falcon
#

i still have to get my hands on lunala by doing BBQ, and ill steal my brothers switch for chi-yu

timber falcon
solid frigate
timber falcon
#

da goat fish

timber falcon
#

your MU into that is very important

warped mason
#

Well all teams have bad mus. Calyrex ice teams aren't the only teams goinf around rn.

#

And its not like u can't beat it, you just gotta play really well.

timber falcon
#

some u need to watch out for more than others

#

i think that both calys are the top legs rn

warped mason
#

Against shadow caly its easier.

timber falcon
#

how?

#

bolt?

warped mason
#

Mainly Ice wind and raging bolt

timber falcon
#

yeah makes sense

brazen bough
timber falcon
#

idk i havent seen much of it suprisingly, maybe im just lucky but the consistent legs i see are the calys and terapagos. but hey its just my estimate

warped mason
#

Bundle miraidon is pretty strong yea

timber falcon
#

maybe i just have a good MU for it then

atomic mural
warped mason
#

tera fire wake also araquanid on sun?

#

If u want a wide guard user why not just run mienshao at that point

atomic mural
#

I’m cooking so hard that its on a sun team

timber falcon
#

glazing

timber falcon
warped mason
#

I'm honestly considering mienshao on my sun team, and valiant on my miraidon team.

#

People will not stop spamming calyrex

mighty stump
#

People will use whats good

warped mason
#

Did not suggest otherwise

autumn vault
# solid frigate best girl

You love Whimsicott because she is adorable and reliable
I love whimsicott because i used it in gen 5 and i love anti-meta pokemon (whim atm)
We are not the same

polar canyon
#

Yo

#

Remember when whimsicott would run kings rock + fling

#

For a free post first turn fake out

#

What if I did that

#

What's the reason why people stopped doing it?

#

One time flinch

chrome knot
#

went mark hunting for a cool incin mark for this weekend and I think this'll do c:

image.png
molten oasis
timber falcon
#

Shiny?

chrome knot
#

nah I went for all non shiny mons but in matching apriballs for this team

#

I did find a rando shiny litten while doin this tho

#

so like dis too

image.png
solid frigate
timber falcon
chrome knot
polar canyon
timber falcon
chrome knot
#

swsh raid rng lmao

#

im doing one for ruby bc she wants a 0spe one so ill lyk when I get it

timber falcon
#

Oh ok, I’m tryna get a masterball moongus for my team

#

But which ball for lunala?

chrome knot
#

mines in a master ball

timber falcon
#

Hmm

#

I feel like dream ball fits it’s theme

pastel blade
pearl wind
timber falcon
gentle cragBOT
timber falcon
pearl wind
#

i did my amogu in xSport i like the ball animation

timber falcon
#

I prefer to copy colours, got myself a Rilla in a friend ball and Incin in sports WobbuParty

molten oasis
#

My ogerpon is in a friend ball

timber falcon
#

🤝

molten oasis
#

I’ll have to shiny hunt a rilla finally, and get a new Tornadus

#

And then, yea I just need to re-ev shifu

timber falcon
#

Damn u guys finishing ur teams fast

#

Or maybe I’m just slow

molten oasis
#

Oh yea I get to use my shiny Zac

#

So I’ll have to ev that as well

autumn vault
#

🟦 Make a normal team with a meta restricted legend
🟥 Make another Dumbass team with Zekrom
Me:

Dr-Robotnik-pushing-button-meme-1.png
#

You guesses it, another team with Zekrom again

pastel blade
#

When are we gonna get Nils’s rental team? Buddy made that shit look easy🤣

chrome knot
chrome knot
pastel blade
chrome knot
#

just lots of testing and math work

solid frigate
warped mason
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Favorite sight this format

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G in regulation g Stands for groudon

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252+ Atk Mewtwo-Mega-X Close Combat vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 63-75 (33.1 - 39.4%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Mewtwo-Mega-X Close Combat vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar: 254-300 (99.6 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

I'm sorry,did i did the calcs wrong-

chrome knot
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nice yeah

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wonder what other ones that aren't in sv could do

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megas would be cool but I think itd be too much to think of

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i am just curious on it

autumn vault
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autumn vault
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# autumn vault True

also i did the calcs with the primals and Mega ray against Terapagos, and holy shit He Tanks

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252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar: 157-187 (61.5 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 78-94 (41 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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Very solid

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timber falcon
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Terapagos is so tanky man 💀

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It keeps almost walling me

autumn vault
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It is better to have SD amulet then Band

timber falcon
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What mon is this?

molten oasis
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Mega ray

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# autumn vault I think band is overkill

252+ Atk Choice Band Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Terapagos-Stellar: 181-214 (70.9 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 156 HP / 100 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 90-107 (47.3 - 56.3%) -- 83.6% chance to 2HKO

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timber falcon
molten oasis
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Gotta bring it

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timber falcon
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Yeah that’s the problem

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timber falcon
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I always leave it out (it’s dark shifu)

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Mega Ray can’t even have band no?

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timber falcon
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Oh?

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only need Dragon Ascent

timber falcon
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That’s cool

lofty tartan
timber falcon
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Ah

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molten oasis
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Ok that sounds like you need to bring your shifu

solid frigate
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if you saw a Terapagos on your team,Bring a Urshifu

timber falcon
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Yeah I seem to forget I own mons for these things

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FO+Close Combat=Terapagos Killing machine

timber falcon
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I only found out recently CC still works on terapagos

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When Tera

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just +1 is enough technically