competitive_discussion

[thorny ridge]

hi hi

[lofty tartan]

I'm glad they let me turn it off.

[bold geode]

Oh I've had more good
I've actually had people compliment me on there
Which like feels nice, especially after they kick my ass lmao

[lofty tartan]

Yeah that's like.. what's the word I'm looking for here .

[thorny ridge]

sd chat from my experience is only really annoying on the lower part of the ladder, higher up people just want to practice and nothing else

ofc the occasional salt but nothing compared to the 1000s lol

[bold geode]

Oh I never get shit on 1000s
Nobody even talks to me down there
We're having like different experiences

[thorny ridge]

maybe its cause i played with articuno

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I play more on cart ladder, so whenever I do get back on Showdown I'm usually crawling back up from a ladder reset.

I'm inexperienced, and have made questionable plays while I've worked to get better, and people are not too friendly about feeling superior to less-skilled players sometimes

[thorny ridge]

people want an excuse to have a reason to lose

[bold geode]

That would do it lmao

Get a freeze or two and they be salty

[lofty tartan]

I've had to work through a lot of anxiety, and people being jerks on Showdown was not helping my situation.

Turning off chat was healthy for me :]

[thorny ridge]

yea turning off chat is really the best move

[lofty tartan]

Now I'm playing a ton better and feeling good about it 😄

[bold geode]

Yeah I don't have that problem cuz the amount of people that actually talk in Showdown chats for me is like slim
But I've had more good experiences than bad so

[lofty tartan]

I mean, tyo, I get some salt on Showdown

Been playing this for the rest of Reg F

The salt flows free

[thorny ridge]

nice haha

[bold geode]

Although on Limitless I did have one guy be like "gotta love the game winning miss"

Which tbf
I could've won if their Chien Pao didn't miss Icicle Crash
But them missing just made the game WAY easier

[lofty tartan]

I was having a coaching session with Tofu and got two really clutch Blizzard freezes on Flutter and Ogerpon back to back. Hilarious stuff, but I'm sure my opp would've been a lot more angry if my chat was on. Was around 1300s

[foggy lodge]

I hate console ladder i swear

I only want to get to masterball because of the herbs

[smoky hawk]

Wow you got 3 different cores there

But I worry about their synergy when you mix them around on the field

Though dongiri with aurora veil sounds like torture

[lofty tartan]

You don't mix them around a lot. You take cores that your opponent is weaker too, exhaust early game resources, and close out the game with what you have in the back, most times.

It's not a lot of complicated play

But it definitely crushes Balance teams 🤷

I have ended up in cases with Veil up, Articuno and Dozo on the field, just cruising along. 🤷

And Tatsugiri is a viable-enough game closing thing

[bold geode]

NUH UH
(God plz help)

(it very spooky)

[lofty tartan]

I've noticed that a lot of times, my opponent is on full-tilt because they worried about Psyspam and now they have to deal with Snow lead and Dozo in back

[bold geode]

I'm finna do some laddering, see where I can get

Rn
No. 3033

[warped mason]

anyone got a good groudon walking wake team?

[slate spindle]

What are good additions to an offense singles team with Samurott-Hisui, Rillaboom, Sneasler, and Ditto?

[lofty tartan]

https://pokepast.es/fc0ab51d77147a2d

This is one I've been playing 🤷

[warped mason]

Ooo nice. You're not liking gouging fire?

I like the venasaur

[lofty tartan]

I haven't been playing Gouging Fire in Reg G

[warped mason]

I think gouging fire + groudon is oppresive

[smoky hawk]

Well you have to take 2 cores to each game, so clearly there will be some mixing here and there. Just not in your lead, of course

[warped mason]

Thought I'd try to fit both gouging and walking wake since they don't share a fairy weakness

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I mean you just don't mix the pieces of each core. It's mostly you take Snow or Psyspam and Dozo in the back for cleaning.

[lofty tartan]

Groudon/Bolt is more of a strong pairing, honestly. Helps deal with Kyogre a lot more handily.

[warped mason]

Think so? I think howl gouging fire really helps more in general match ups

[lofty tartan]

Why?

[warped mason]

Mainly because of gouging being to capatilize on the sun better, setup groudon and debuff.

[lofty tartan]

How does it capitalize on the Sun better?

[mighty stump]

Coverage overlap

[lofty tartan]

That's really.. vague

[warped mason]

Fire stab

[lofty tartan]

That's not the only way to capitalize on the Sun.

Raging Bolt gets a spAtk bonus and punishes Kyogre for existing, which is good into Sun teams...

[warped mason]

Yea and raging bolt also makes u more prone to fairys

Considering you're also running walking wake

[lofty tartan]

Tera exists. Running two things weak to Fairy isn't going to end your game.

Just don't let Flutter Mane roll you. Groudon deals with her.

[mighty stump]

And that’s not a problem cause you have wider coverage for more matchups rather than worrying about one Flutter tbh

[lofty tartan]

Absolutely.

[mighty stump]

Speaking from experience

Running Koraidon balance with triple dragon and Flutter is the least of my worries

[warped mason]

How does your team deal with trickroom caly Ice teams btw?

[mighty stump]

Incineroar/Amoonguss/Tera Fire

[warped mason]

I was refering to herbie's

[mighty stump]

Sleep Powder/Fake Out/Tera Fire

Wake pins pre/post tera

[warped mason]

@lofty tartan what were your evs on groudon for?

[lofty tartan]

It was one that a friend came up with before Reg G was officially announced, but it's fast enough to outspeed Adamant Chien-Pao/Modest Flutter after an Icy Wind

[gloomy crypt]

i was going to make a calyrex-ice tr team; will hatterene and gallade still be viable for trick room during reg g

[lofty tartan]

60 SpA Choice Specs Tera Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 228 HP / 28 SpD Groudon: 154-182 (75.4 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 228 HP / 28 SpD Groudon: 176-208 (86.2 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

🤷

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 228 HP / 0 Def Groudon: 152-180 (74.5 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Oh why Lefties

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 228 HP / 28 SpD Groudon: 125-148 (61.2 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 228 HP / 28 SpD Groudon in Psychic Terrain: 164-192 (80.3 - 94.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It does fine

[warped mason]

Thx

Like that it lives expanding force

[timber falcon]

Good morning peoples

That’s a lot of calcs-

I rly don’t get some people

[lofty tartan]

Looks like you've been bamboozled.

How dare you take Wide Guard to my all-spread move team

[grizzled bronze]

low ladder hell

[timber falcon]

It was his groudon and Deedee vs my lunala and chi-yu

Idk what he thought he was cooking up cause he DIDNT fire tera in front of chiyu lmao

And went for sword dance

[cyan smelt]

prolly afraid of the meteor beam

[timber falcon]

He read the wide guard

So he knew I wouldn’t do it

Maybe he underestimated damage output

[cyan smelt]

i've just heard about simple beam cosmic power eternatus lmao

[timber falcon]

Speaking of places in the ladder, what score would a team need to be seen as “yeah that works”

[timber falcon]

Literally just had a game against a shed tail then calm mind lugia

With psych up politoed

I do love lugia though

[cyan smelt]

i was watching a game where the person had minimise muk and psych up caly-s

[timber falcon]

Oh god

That’s absolutely vile and disgusting

[cyan smelt]

they lost to an amoonguss with clear smog

[timber falcon]

Lmao that’s convenient

Does clear am stop things like that?

[cyan smelt]

not sure

[dapper crag]

Item: Clear Amulet

Prevents other Pokemon from lowering the holder's stat stages.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[timber falcon]

I’d assume so

[cyan smelt]

it's not lowering though, it's removing entirely

[timber falcon]

Oh

[cyan smelt]

haze i assume still works on clear amulet

[dapper crag]

Move: Clear Smog

Resets all of the target's stat stages to 0.

Type

Poison

Category

Special

Power

50

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[grizzled bronze]

i try to get around 1400-1500 elo with like 60+ gxe

[timber falcon]

Yeah it’s a reset

[timber falcon]

I know this but I thought with a new reg comes new standards

[cyan smelt]

amoonguss stonks going up with all the clear amulets around

[grizzled bronze]

i dont really think there's new standards

[timber falcon]

Oh ok cause my goal that the condensed soy milk told me was 1500 with 65GXE for last reg (I only ever hit it once then fell off)

Guess I’ll grind all over again

[grizzled bronze]

i mean it is up to you what you think is "good enough"

[timber falcon]

Nvm that’s top 200

Ain’t no way I’m grinding till top cut

I reckon 1400 with about 60 is fine for now at least

[lofty tartan]

"Top cut" is like a "cut" to the top performers of an event for an elimination bracket.

Just fyi on lingo

Doesn't specifically mean like a top whatever ranking

[timber falcon]

I just use words that I think match together don’t mind me

Just thought the term made sense in that sentence

[lofty tartan]

Just trying to help you understand/communicate things better :]

[timber falcon]

Yeah no worries

[lofty tartan]

The term "cut" is used because no one else in the event is playing but the top 4/8/16

[timber falcon]

Oh ok I’ll try using the term properly next time

Also I might be glazing but the best leads I’ve ever used so far is lunala and chi-yu

The synergy is peak

7-0 streak ima stop now to end it on a good note

[gloomy crypt]

would be nice to know before i start breeding

[timber falcon]

Yes they should still be viable

[gloomy crypt]

thanks

[timber falcon]

Most mons should still be viable unless specifically outclassed

[autumn vault]

Moron

[timber falcon]

It was the funniest shit I’ve seen today, cause I read chat after he forfeit

Great way to start the morning

[cyan smelt]

why get so salty over a wide guard

[timber falcon]

He got a bit cocky and thought the wide guard was a throw??

[cyan smelt]

if your team is reliant on spread moves as a wincon then it's not a good team

[timber falcon]

I mean his team wasn’t even reliant on it

I just used it incase, he had many options

[valid widget]

ice tera gliscor is so fun

i run it with swords dance, earthquake, u turn and ice fang

[timber falcon]

Singles?

[valid widget]

poison heal with toxic orb

ye singles

[cyan smelt]

Like surely you'd expect people to run wide guard in a restricted format with lots of spread moves

[timber falcon]

That’s the problem, he DID read the wide guard

And it was a good read

[cyan smelt]

So why did he forfeit

[grizzled bronze]

why he forfeit tho

[timber falcon]

He left the chi-yu untouched

[valid widget]

ice tera gliscor even tanked a tera boosted ivy cudgel from teal mask ogerpon

[timber falcon]

In the sun

[grizzled bronze]

oh that's surely a disaster

[timber falcon]

Without any resistance on his side

[valid widget]

what yall talking about

[timber falcon]

A game I had

It was a 1 turn win btw

[cyan smelt]

Oh so he couldn't touch the chi yu because it outspeeds Groudon

[timber falcon]

Yep

So he just left

[valid widget]

chiyu is defs one of the pokemon you dont want to ignore.

[timber falcon]

Fr it’s why I predicted precipes blade

[cyan smelt]

I hate chi yu, chi yu and caly s together are a nightmare

[timber falcon]

Doesn’t tw counter or smth

[valid widget]

chiyu alone is a fucking nightmare with its ability automatically lowering other mons' spdef

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but caly swept gen 8 and it's poised to do it again

[timber falcon]

Love it

[valid widget]

least obvious power creep

[timber falcon]

Yeah it’s already beginning lol

[cyan smelt]

And this time it's tera fairy so no more dark weakness

[timber falcon]

Specs caly hits like a massive truck

[valid widget]

tera ice is so good for gliscor in singles bcuz thats its biggesst weakness when not tera'd

[timber falcon]

U can’t even count on dark resistance sometimes, some mf tried so specs, HH, ghost tera, astral barrage on me 😭

[valid widget]

cant imagine my gliscor carrying me to rank 4 in singles

[cyan smelt]

Why did they cut the aura trio but leave caly s untouched

[valid widget]

recency bias

[cyan smelt]

You can't even use berries in front of it

[timber falcon]

Wide guard viability stonks

Not stinks

[cyan smelt]

Mienshao

[timber falcon]

Meinshao looks rly nice for such situations

[cyan smelt]

Can ko incin too

[timber falcon]

I mean I did lose to it 2-0 first time I saw it against Drago

[valid widget]

does mienshao do better with special or physical

[cyan smelt]

Physical

[timber falcon]

And can vouch Incin crumbles to it

Anyways I think I’m gonna abandon my palfin, caly-ice team

Palfin isn’t it this reg

Had a chance for F but I think ima focus purely on retricted mons for now, any ideas on what can work that isn’t brainless?

[cyan smelt]

They really introduced clear amulet and covert cloak to nerf incin lmao

[timber falcon]

And Incin still placing 3rd in Reg F lmao

I’m suprised bolt overtook it

[valid widget]

can covert cloak block flinches from dark pulse or other moves with flinch as a secondary effect

[slate spindle]

anyone?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[molten oasis]

And then you 2-0ed me with chi Yu shit

[mighty stump]

btw im pretty sure 140 is an over investment

-calc 187x0.67

[gentle crag]

Result: 125.290000

[mighty stump]

you only need to hit 126

which is 124 EVs

[willow vault]

Good morning

[molten oasis]

good evening

[willow vault]

Oh yeah time zones

[molten oasis]

well its 2 in the morning

but still night for me

[willow vault]

Damn

Any luck with Zacian since I went to sleep?

[molten oasis]

eh

didn't play that much

i got rolled in 2 bo3's so ended up dropping that team

[willow vault]

Oh fair enough then

[tough idol]

Morning

[willow vault]

How are you Legion?

[tough idol]

Still half asleep but good

[willow vault]

Fun

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/35dd759ece14d22f tofu suggested these 5 and I never got anywhere else with them

[willow vault]

What matchup would you say you’re struggling with most?

[molten oasis]

i havent quite played it but it looks like on paper it struggles with tera fire groudon and zamazenta

[willow vault]

Is zamazenta being used as a set up sweeper (I haven’t run into one)

[molten oasis]

idbp

[willow vault]

Right ok

Focus sash flutter could be interesting, it doesn’t get hit by body press, obviously don’t want to eat a behemoth bash, into Groudon it gets a stat boost and with focus sash it can eat one extra hit. Probably won’t be perfect but it’s something

[molten oasis]

ig

[willow vault]

Worth trying I guess. Sorry I couldn’t be more help

[molten oasis]

its fine, tofu dissapared after i asked about a 6th so ig im on my own

[willow vault]

Probably sleep on it, then play some games when you have time until you know exactly what you want the 6th to do

[molten oasis]

yea

[elder bridge]

What’s a counter to gouging fire in reg f

[tough idol]

I don't get TCG that much, but I assume this would suck

[timber falcon]

Lmao he loses 28 of his cards

Thats actually crazy I didn’t know that existed

For a scale u have 60 cards per game, if all run out u lose

[tough idol]

Apparently Snorlax is a stall deck so it was bad

[timber falcon]

Yeah that’s devastating

Not much to do in that position

[tough idol]

I'm preparing to throw a bunch of stuff together and call it a 'team' LOL

[timber falcon]

For tcg?

[tough idol]

Vgc

I don't have the patience or money for TCG lol

[timber falcon]

Yeah I’ve never played it irl cause the cards ain’t worth the dough for me, and they ruined the game

But it is an interesting game to understand

[mighty stump]

Sorry had birthday lunch lol

[molten oasis]

no worries

[mighty stump]

anyways

Urshifu RS

LOL

Or Gyarados as an intimidator

Gyarados is good into Groudon atm

The ones that don't run Rock Slide pretty much get walled

unfortunately no knock off

but at least you hvae a better switch in

Alternatively you go chien-pao

which I personally like

A lot of things here benefit off of SoR

[molten oasis]

ill do this, i like it for incin

incin ruins zacians life

[cyan smelt]

Howl gouging fire

[mighty stump]

Tera Ghost just to avoid FO btw

[molten oasis]

bro

[solid frigate]

Hoi

[molten oasis]

have you not been around the multiple times ive ranted about gouging fire feeling shit lol

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-spin-rotate-pokemon-scarlet-violet-gif-2551289956493589259

[mighty stump]

mm

Gouging Fire wise

Oh

@molten oasis Run Foul Play over Ice Beam

For Caly-I as well

on P2

[molten oasis]

it gets that?

[mighty stump]

Yea

People on CTS also wont see it coming

[molten oasis]

just, anti caly lol

[mighty stump]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

i mean i play bo3 every so often but yea

[mighty stump]

Useful on Bo3

[molten oasis]

thats funny lol

[mighty stump]

Just additional niceness on P2

Ill give you my spread as well

[mighty stump]

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 244 HP / 124 Def / 84 SpA / 52 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Tera Blast
• Eerie Impulse
• Recover
• Trick Room

Just change it

[molten oasis]

this sticker is killing me lmfao

[mighty stump]

Lol

[molten oasis]

ight

[mighty stump]

Hope it works out

See how it goes

and we can go from there

[molten oasis]

yea, i just want her to work lol

she got worse than her brother

yes i corrected it shush

[true niche]

no offensive pressure

[mighty stump]

?

[tough idol]

I forgot Gyarados existed, ngl

[cyan smelt]

Don't people usually run Groudon + bolt together

[chrome knot]

porygon2

[molten oasis]

what about it

[tough idol]

I have seen Groudon, Bolt

Wish i knew where I put my tablet lol

And just like that it appears

[polar nest]

hey real quick so I have been using minerals to ev train, they give 10 evs per correct?

[timber falcon]

Yep

Feathers do 1

[polar nest]

ok thanks

so 26 of a mineral is max a stat

[timber falcon]

Yep

[charred saddle]

if u wanna be efficient with it, 25 vitamins + 2 feathers

but thats just a preferance

saves money on the long run, but if u do have a money farm or do raids regularly, doesnt make a change

[polar nest]

oh smart

[timber falcon]

My self esteem has never been higher

If only I can keep it up

[molten oasis]

congrats

im eating shit in low elo hell

because of rng and missplaying

[timber falcon]

Rng rly sucks for me I how I lost 2 of those games

[molten oasis]

im having funnnnn

[timber falcon]

Low elo is a breeze with good leads

Most of my games are 4-0 with lunala chi-yu

[molten oasis]

ok, take a guess at what im using

[timber falcon]

Hmm

Zacian final answer

[molten oasis]

great answer

ie, NOT HO

[timber falcon]

New it

[tough idol]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2098648762

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2098651231

Any feedback appreciated

https://pokepast.es/84bc7769ebb149d4

[autumn vault]

I am like 42 Elo lower than yours

And i have a 21-14 W-L ratio

[timber falcon]

What’s team u using for it

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098665288 wanna watch the longest most painful set of matches ive ever played

[cyan smelt]

Is it against a smeargle muk user

[molten oasis]

nope

[polar canyon]

Damn

[autumn vault]

Stall = No life idiot

[polar canyon]

As soon as I saw coil milotic I knew what was happening

[polar canyon]

This is a bit rough now

[autumn vault]

If it is directed to me, i am using Koraidon and Zekrom teams, i love them so far

[polar canyon]

As much as I don't like stall

I like playing wo chien

And wish it was good in any format at all

But it always had common counters

[autumn vault]

Sadly typing is shit and intimidate is just better than ToR

[willow vault]

I played someone using wo-chien yesterday, it was very confusing seeing it

[polar canyon]

Oh I like wo-chien but don't use it

[molten oasis]

my favorite

[polar canyon]

I know it's bad in every meta

Sad reality

[timber falcon]

U gotta have a 3rd one

[autumn vault]

Sad Reality (Lycopoky edition): Hydreigon is hardly ever viable (Thanks fucker mane)

[timber falcon]

U can’t stop at 2

[autumn vault]

Why?

[timber falcon]

3 is a nicer number

[polar canyon]

Hey hydreigon was viable for like one season

It was pretty good until mane rolled up

[autumn vault]

If i had to have a 3rd it would be Calyrex-Ice

[willow vault]

Bruh

[timber falcon]

Oh u finished the team showed yesterday?

[autumn vault]

And moon, but i love moon, hate flutter

[polar canyon]

I remember focus energy hydreigon like it was yesterday

[autumn vault]

I did test it against someone, it does great, i haven't tested it on ladder however

[willow vault]

Wasn’t it used a sweeper partially because of it favourable matchup into Gholdengo?

[molten oasis]

yea

[autumn vault]

Tera also helped it a lot

[polar canyon]

Yeah and the cool tech was crits with draco

[autumn vault]

And PTSD of gen 5 players encouraged usage

The PTSD comes from Ghetsis' Hydreigon

[polar canyon]

Haxorus needs a mega

[autumn vault]

Thing is a bigger menace than Cynthia's Garchomp no cap

[willow vault]

I played gen 5, it was my childhood I remember the hydreigon

[autumn vault]

You feel my pain, i lost to ghetsis like 10 times because of his Hydreigon

[polar canyon]

I never got into bw

[autumn vault]

In my most recent playthrough i used a ddance Haxorus partially because of his hydreigon

[willow vault]

Scrafty was so fun to use, probably my favourite gen 5 mon

[polar canyon]

I got into pokemon from the bw anime and only got the games starting from pokemon y

[molten oasis]

if hax gets a mega i hope they give it a secondary typing

[polar canyon]

Yes

What if it's 4x weak to ice

[willow vault]

First game I got was platinum but have a more vivid memory of gen 5

[polar canyon]

Honestly base haxorus already could be half steel

[autumn vault]

I got bw first and then Platinum

White 2 will always be my favourite game, forever along with Mario Kart Wii and Galaxy 2 not because of nostalgia because they are so good, wish games were as good as those

Fuck the key system though

[polar canyon]

Nah my favorite game aint pokemon

[willow vault]

My nightmares from gen 5 stemed from the Lenora fight, why did I find that so damn difficult

[willow vault]

Add smash ultimate for me and it’s the same

[polar canyon]

Kirby and the forgotten land is peak

[willow vault]

What is?

[autumn vault]

The Emolgas constantly pivoting was so annoying, not even ground types can deal with Elisa consistently

[polar canyon]

Not even nostalgia pilled bc it's a recent game

[willow vault]

So true

[polar canyon]

It's just that good

[autumn vault]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a bad game ngl

[willow vault]

I just got lucky in the fight with hustle darumaka

[autumn vault]

I just had my Pignite land lucky crits on them and drillbur barely handled Zebstrika along with Pignite (Super potion abuse)

[willow vault]

I quite like it but I get why others don’t

[molten oasis]

what

[willow vault]

Potions????? Nah

[molten oasis]

excuse me mario kart 8 deluxe is not a bad game

[willow vault]

I enjoy it

[autumn vault]

What ruins it for me is the luck, i swear i am the unluckiest human in that game and the way Nintendo handles the gameplay, i just dislike it

[willow vault]

You probably are wasting your items then

[molten oasis]

so you dont like the game

the game is not bad lol

also yes id know of bad rng

even with good item management my opponent always gets 2 red shells and ill always only have 1 cuz i already got hit by one

makes me go beserk, like this

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-boss-oogly-goo-gif-3090293690467084064

[autumn vault]

I am, but the dumbass boo always gets me, boomerangs just cant take a fucking break of hitting me

[willow vault]

I mean knowing your rng likelihoods really helps become better at the game, like holding onto a coin to protect yourself from a boo, or holding onto a coin in first to ensure you get a defensive item like a banana or green shell

[molten oasis]

see my rng is "you will lose anyway get fucked"

[autumn vault]

I played competitive mario kart 8 deluxe and i think it is not worth it at all

[molten oasis]

oh, yea it ruins the whole fun of it

i had to fight literal try hards during high school, actual joke how much they played

[willow vault]

Depends what you want your experience of the game to be

[autumn vault]

People are always "it is skill based" "You must know these things to succeed" It does not apply to me for some reason

I do these things, and i get screwed by rng

[molten oasis]

mariokart wasnt made to be competitive, at least id assume so

pokemon, isnt exactly either but its there

[tough idol]

I hate Comfey

[willow vault]

And neither was Pokémon and yet we play this

[autumn vault]

Mario Kart Wii is more skill based and 8 deluxe with the rng, just not worth it

[molten oasis]

i hate it next to terapagos

[autumn vault]

I hate it, way less than flutter mane, but i still hate it

[molten oasis]

i dont really hate flutter

i have a zacian

[autumn vault]

Atleast i bolt strike all of them now

[timber falcon]

How

[autumn vault]

if not, flare blitz them to oblivion

[willow vault]

I love single strike Urshifu, I hate rapid strike but love single strike

[autumn vault]

Agreed

[tough idol]

That's what just nailed me

[timber falcon]

Single strike shifu is da goat

[molten oasis]

cuz it has the type of pangoro?

[autumn vault]

Comfey + Terapagos, let me guess

[molten oasis]

yea i lost to it and screens a while ago, just brushed it off

[willow vault]

I guess but like I just really don’t like rapid strike more than anything

[molten oasis]

fair

[tough idol]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2098681589-7nwj83vv7tyia1ayez8b9ipu7hvjb6hpw

[molten oasis]

odd

theres a sableye

[tough idol]

Stoopid plant and turtle

[autumn vault]

your opponent has a very cringe username

Bidoof being god is a horrible joke imo

[molten oasis]

do you have swords dance or are you just 3 attack?

[timber falcon]

[timber falcon]

CC , behemoth , Play rough , prot

[molten oasis]

...ok

[autumn vault]

Why not SD?

[timber falcon]

Idk it’s a max max set

[molten oasis]

its not your team

did he show you the paste?

[timber falcon]

I know legion showed a paste of it

[tough idol]

@molten oasis https://pokepast.es/84bc7769ebb149d4

[molten oasis]

ah

you absolutely have the tools to go swrods dance

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098195034 Zekrom sweeping a team, it is B tier, you can't change my mind

[molten oasis]

but i get not wanting to do swords dance

3 attack is fine

[timber falcon]

Glaze

[molten oasis]

fuck i stayed up all night and i go to school for the next 8 hours

[timber falcon]

U have school?

[autumn vault]

Wdym by glaze?

[timber falcon]

I’m on Easter break

[molten oasis]

im a college student

[willow vault]

Should have gone to bed

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[molten oasis]

i was up all night watching an anime with a friend

[tough idol]

Was just an idea I threw together, trying new mons out

[molten oasis]

10/10 would watch again it was awesome

[willow vault]

What anime?

[molten oasis]

deca dence, thats pipe

[autumn vault]

I am out of my break, now i have to wake up at 7:00 every school day, cant wait for my eyes to be very tierd

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[molten oasis]

the cutest guy ever

hi monke hows life

[bold geode]

Watch Zom 100
Absolutely stupid

[molten oasis]

is it good?

[willow vault]

It is good

[bold geode]

Also WATCH JJK FUCK HOLE

[molten oasis]

no

[timber falcon]

Jjk is peak

[mighty stump]

Its also on indefinite hiatus or something

[molten oasis]

season 1 is so fucking boring

[bold geode]

It definitely ain't bad at least to me

[bold geode]

What JJK or Zom 100?

[mighty stump]

zom

[molten oasis]

id assume zom lol

[bold geode]

Oh so I'm still getting traumatized ok

[timber falcon]

Jjk pacing is kinda bad rn tbh

[molten oasis]

i mean so does one piece but like

[timber falcon]

Gege won’t let that mf die

[molten oasis]

i didnt figure that out until i was 200 episodes in lol

[timber falcon]

Yeah I also gave up on one piece

[molten oasis]

jjk hasnt caught my attention

ik its good

[bold geode]

Mad cuz Sukuna played Fruit Ninja

[timber falcon]

Kashimo victim

Plotkuna should’ve dropped many chapters ago

[willow vault]

I haven’t watched bleach yet, how good is it?

[molten oasis]

its one of the big 3 id assume its good

[mighty stump]

Bleach is just iconic

[timber falcon]

I read the whole thing in 3 days best thing ever done

[mighty stump]

I disagree

Lol

[timber falcon]

It was soo entertaining though

[mighty stump]

Especially the newest chap

[timber falcon]

Newest chap? I thought it ended

[molten oasis]

first season just made me bored

never finished it and went on to other shows

[timber falcon]

Missing the mountains

[molten oasis]

literally would rather watch Regular Show again atm lol

[timber falcon]

I hate regular show

[mighty stump]

Sequel lol

Jaws of Hell arc

[timber falcon]

That ello governor have me nightmares

[mighty stump]

and I meant JJK

[molten oasis]

[timber falcon]

Oh I haven’t gotten to reading hell arc, I thought it was just an after story or smth

[timber falcon]

Ohhh ok, u mean sukuna kaisen

[mighty stump]

Lol

If you say so

Idk why people seem surprised that the absolute strongest sorcerer in history during the strongest era is difficult for modern sorcerers to deal with

Plus its ending soon anyways

Were people expecting to Gojo to be like "omg yuji you must carry on in place of my sacrifice and win" and everyone gets a happy ending

???

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098692715 Snow is a decent MU despite the ice weaknesses

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishqbaaaz-shivika-fraud-fraudster-gif-12866046

[mighty stump]

Fraudjo Satoru

[timber falcon]

The real jujutsu kaisen was the friends u made along the way

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I do have a comp related question

[mighty stump]

No its not viable

[timber falcon]

.

Next question

[mighty stump]

LOL

[willow vault]

Which is?

[timber falcon]

Lugia

[willow vault]

No

[timber falcon]

Ok

Anyways, what goal should I hit for a successful team

Like elo and gxe for this reg

[willow vault]

2100 on showdown

[timber falcon]

No one has even done that yet

[willow vault]

Then be the first

[timber falcon]

I think that’s a stretch for me…..

[willow vault]

If you use Lugia it’s definitely a stretch

[timber falcon]

I’m using lunala

[willow vault]

Ok so like 1650 I reckon

[mighty stump]

Lunala is pretty good

[timber falcon]

Last reg condensed soymilk told me to reach 1500 and 65

[mighty stump]

Just go for 1500s lol

[timber falcon]

This so far

[mighty stump]

and 70 this time

Keep going

[timber falcon]

Ok

[mighty stump]

If you hit the goal just keep going

[willow vault]

I’m doing so much worse then that

[timber falcon]

Somehow lunala and chi-yu have been dominating for me

It’s a basic idea but hey it works

[timber falcon]

Do I move onto bo3 at some point?

[willow vault]

In all fairness I have decided to use Palkia + Bronzong so there may be a correlation

[timber falcon]

Lmao what

What do those 2 do together

[willow vault]

I’ve cooked and burnt the food

[mighty stump]

Yep, why not

[willow vault]

Trick room

[timber falcon]

Ok so I think I’ll go for top 400 for now, then do bo3

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 484: Palkia

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/120/100/150/120/100

Total

680

Other Formes

Palkia-Origin

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[autumn vault]

Lower it by 190 Elo and that is where i am

[timber falcon]

100 base speed palkia with tr

[willow vault]

Yep

[timber falcon]

Are you crazy?

[autumn vault]

Its been done before

[willow vault]

Most restricteds run speed investment

[mighty stump]

Palkia is a TR mon

Lol

[timber falcon]

WHAT?

[willow vault]

Yeah

[timber falcon]

How is that even possible

[autumn vault]

yes

[dapper crag]

Palkia's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Cut, Dive, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Heavy Slam, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Outrage, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Slash, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Waterfall

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Brine, Chilling Water, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Power Gem, Round, Shock Wave, Snore, Spacial Rend, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twister, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Aqua Ring, Bulk Up, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Hail, Heal Block, Hone Claws, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Palkia.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[willow vault]

Min speed

[timber falcon]

What item

[willow vault]

Currently life orb but rn just testing

[timber falcon]

Hmm ok, does palkia rely on bulk?

[mighty stump]

wat

[willow vault]

Have previously used aguav berry

[willow vault]

wat

[timber falcon]

Oh oh

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-wat-what-wtf-are-you-kidding-gif-13598412

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/012062b0dcc57fa7 I need some rating for the flutter and rilla set, I try i think smth is wrong

[willow vault]

I’m insane ok

[timber falcon]

And the chi-yu set, these weren’t calced so I know something is not right

And I have no idea how to calc effectively

[molten oasis]

What is wrong with them

[timber falcon]

I don’t know

But they can’t be 100 alr, doesn’t flutter want more bulk?

And idk what a chi-yu or rilla set really looks like + I keep forgetting to steal wolfes AV rilla set

[slate spindle]

What are good additions to an offense singles team with Samurott-Hisui, Rillaboom, Sneasler, and Ditto?

[willow vault]

What tier, OU, UU?

[timber falcon]

Ditto?

[willow vault]

Or just online ladder?

[timber falcon]

Oh I read diglett

[willow vault]

So you read diglett, and still correctly typed ditto, that’s impressive

[timber falcon]

I don’t know my brain showed me diglett

Maybe I didn’t read it but got the names mixed?

[willow vault]

Um, are they gonna respond about what tier they need the pokemon to be from?

[willow vault]

I mean probably great tusk namely with ice spinner otherwise you get walled by gliscor

[pearl wind]

i think your Chi-Yu would like more speed to outspeed timid 252 calyrex but other than that its hard to know whats wrong if you dont know of anything that bothers you

[slate spindle]

It's anything goes but one restricted is allowed

[willow vault]

Probably something with priority, like Kingambit helps out since some restricteds are crazy fast

[timber falcon]

Yeah I get this, it’s annoying when caly outspeeds and gets a fighting test focus blast

[slate spindle]

I also have sucker punch on samurott

[willow vault]

Fighting Tera focus blast, is balsy

[pearl wind]

at first i thought you got enough speed on Chi-Yu but 196 modest is NOT it

[timber falcon]

He hit all of them

The cats are killing me idk why

[pearl wind]

you need 228 speed EVs if you wanna keep the rest

[timber falcon]

Hmm ok I’ll sac bulk for it

I like the damage it deals rn

[pearl wind]

i dont know how important the difference between the bump (36+) and your investment (52+) right now is, would have to look at calcs if its even worth it, but you could probably take some EVs from your SpAtk if its not a big difference

[timber falcon]

Maybe, but then I don’t plan on having chi yu eat much, ill calc what’s needed to live smth like moonblast from specs flutter

Non tera ofc

Oh most of my investments are in hp

[pearl wind]

yeah you use max hp fish

[timber falcon]

Is it always max?

[pearl wind]

i dunno i thought most scarf chi-yu ran 252/252 spatk and speed, that was during past regulations tho

[chrome knot]

0spe ursaring raid sv G2B KVL

[timber falcon]

Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 220 HP / 4 Def / 52 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk I’ve cooked this up

• Snarl
• Overheat
• Heat Wave
• Dark Pulse

Sacced some hp

I do hope it’s not important

[polar canyon]

Yall

Thoughts on dialga origin?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 483: Dialga-Origin

Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/120/150/120/90

Total

680

Base Species

Dialga

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[timber falcon]

Very bulky

[polar canyon]

And 20% boosted stab

[timber falcon]

Boosted?

[polar canyon]

Yeah the item has the form change and the stab boost function

Like ogerpon masks

[timber falcon]

Wait what?

What’s the item

[willow vault]

I really don’t like playing against terapagos, because I suck at fighting it

[pearl wind]

i think you could also go with this
Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Def / 36 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Snarl
• Overheat
• Heat Wave
• Dark Pulse

still enough speed for timid calyrex-shadow, still has your spatk with the bump (36+) and your HP stat is 160 which gives you exactly 10HP regen on grassy terrain (your spread with 220HP only gives you 9HP per terrain turn)

[timber falcon]

Spatck where?

[pearl wind]

i dont think (?) the 2 points in SpAtk decrease any important damage calcs but you have to look at the calcs

[timber falcon]

Oh it’s only 2 points?

Ok thanks for the set

[pearl wind]

36+ gives 176 SpAtk, 52+ gives 178 SpAtk (actual stat number)

[timber falcon]

But I thought it increased by 1 every 4 evs

[autumn vault]

Doing damage is more important

[mighty stump]

Optimising HP for magic numbers is the final consideration if theres nothing more important

[timber falcon]

Magic number?

[autumn vault]

Besides Chi-Yu will hardly ever live hits, no way it survives a super effective hit from a restricted

[mighty stump]

Its overrated

[timber falcon]

I mean it’s not supposed to, but it’s nice to live neutral spatck hits

[mighty stump]

Its the first 4 then every subsequent 8...

[timber falcon]

Subsequent means….

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow Rider: 168-198 (96 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO i prefer to have a chance to ohko calyrex shadow (after tera) then have a bulky chi-yu

[timber falcon]

Why am I pressing overheat

[sweet ivy]

Would a 0 speed hammer arm metagross be viable?

[timber falcon]

I mean in front of Caly-shadow I just snarl

Always no matter what

[autumn vault]

Heat wave does not ohko

and if the tera is used on it, then overheat is the only option remaining to ohko it

[timber falcon]

Chi-yu isn’t on the team to deal with Caly-s shenanigans just saying

I have 3 who are meant to take it out or wall it

[autumn vault]

36+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Groudon in Sun: 160-190 (77.2 - 91.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Groudon in Sun: 187-222 (90.3 - 107.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

[timber falcon]

Pretty nice odds

That’s huge chip right there

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 186-218 (89.8 - 105.3%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
36+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 158-188 (76.3 - 90.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Also another good calc

Also applies to heat wave it is directed to it

[timber falcon]

I know

But as I said chi-yu can get OHKOs but it’s meant for meaningful chip at the end of the day

Lunala is where it’s at

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 206-246 (122.6 - 146.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
36+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Flamethrower vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 180-212 (107.1 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I will admit it doesn't change all important calcs but what i want to say it that it needs to be offensive

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Shadow Shield Lunala: 194-230 (79.5 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Also it doesn't ohko lunala at max hp

[timber falcon]

It’s not supposed to

[autumn vault]

true

[timber falcon]

I’m not convinced chi-yu needs to be stronger tbh

Cause it’s paired with a meteor beam lunala

[autumn vault]

I am referring to chi yu with other special attackers that hit hard

[molten oasis]

What are we doing

[pearl wind]

i have no idea

[timber falcon]

Chi-yu stuff

[molten oasis]

More specifically?

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[autumn vault]

It doesn't need to be completely offensive but it is a better thing imo

[timber falcon]

Does chi-yu need more damage I think?

[timber falcon]

Depends on the set and chi-yu imo

[autumn vault]

That is what matters most

What role can it fill?

[timber falcon]

I’d argue it doesn’t need that much spatck

[molten oasis]

What is the item what is it doing on the team

[autumn vault]

Be an offensive sweeper, or make the other special attackers hit like a truck for longer at the cost of less offensive power

[timber falcon]

It still hits hard and hits both

[timber falcon]

It’s a VERY good chipper

Don’t need to sweep

Just scare them

[timber falcon]

Just general

[autumn vault]

I still prefer 100% offense chi-yu

[timber falcon]

I prefer a fast chipping chi-yu

[autumn vault]

It is a scarf chi yu

With modest

[timber falcon]

Oh it’s that one ok

[autumn vault]

I use one in my koraidon team

[timber falcon]

Yeah but that’s diff

That’s in sun ofc u go offence

U dont need over 150 spatck to sweep

[willow vault]

Welp Pokémon has made me really damn mad. Back into the 1000s we go. Woooooooooooooo

[timber falcon]

Can only go up

[willow vault]

I love losing over 200 elo

[timber falcon]

I feel u man this Lunala team I’m using is a remake from one that made me lose all my elo in one night

[willow vault]

I even used a Calyrex team for a bit Incas it was team but I’m just playing bad

[timber falcon]

Take a break

[autumn vault]

I felt the same with banded zekrom, just go ddance

[willow vault]

I know

[timber falcon]

Anyways my phones gonna die, see u guys later 👋

[willow vault]

Atleast bronzong feels weirdly good

[autumn vault]

bye

[pearl wind]

[willow vault]

Bye

[pearl wind]

[molten oasis]

Ok

So like, do you want ti survive any certain hits?

[willow vault]

Who are you talking to?

[autumn vault]

Well, back to grinding on reg G ladder

[autumn vault]

probably you

[molten oasis]

Yea obviously yiu

No @timber falcon

Do you want to live anything in specific?

[willow vault]

They have gone to charge there phone

[molten oasis]

…

[willow vault]

Am I being dumb again

[autumn vault]

no

[willow vault]

I’m shocked

[molten oasis]

No I’m tired I’m being dumb

[willow vault]

Ok

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/f0c4440f6dca4e1d Calyrex ice is a stupid pokemon, how do i fix my team to handle it better?

I swear those players are so tricky to battle against

I had this match where the opponent saved their onion-ice horse in the back and they killed my zekrom, tera'd into fire and it swept my team without tr

[molten oasis]

Try to preserve amoonguss

Knock off the clear amulet and intimdiate it if you can

[autumn vault]

Trust me i came prepared against it and it was in the back, maushold somehow did a crazy amount of damage to my pokemon and when i did kill it and flutter, they brought their cornerstone ogerpon cornerstone and calyrex shadow rider

[molten oasis]

Try to save your Tera for a big attack

[autumn vault]

Those players are somehow the smartest players ever and the stupidest ever

[molten oasis]

This just sounds like a CTS team

That you weren’t prepared for

[autumn vault]

How was i supposed to prepare agaisnt maushold and cornerstone?

Plus i bring efficient counters and it still sweeps me every time

Honestly i will just swap out landorus, it hardly ever does something

[brazen bough]

https://pokepast.es/652e47e2c334f6da how is this team

[autumn vault]

tera psychic on calyrex-ice is not an optimal tera

The teras are very questionable

[brazen bough]

ehh i meant more like mons

[autumn vault]

In terms of pokemon the team looks fine

[brazen bough]

whats a good 6th

[autumn vault]

Honestly go a fast pokemon, the team doesn't have a fast mode in case of no tr

Like flutter mane for example

[solid frigate]

I'm letting Chi Yu Cook

https://pokepast.es/15850acdc0241f0c

[willow vault]

Is that the standard terapagos set?

[pearl wind]

why protect on the specs chi-yu?

[polar canyon]

I clicked the link expecting chi yu calyrex and I'm mostly not disappointed

Idk about that protect

[autumn vault]

Snarl for protect

[solid frigate]

i forgot-

i forgot snarl

[polar canyon]

If you really want to you can use offensive tera blast of a good type

[solid frigate]

then again

I am using a Turtle

[autumn vault]

I mostly prefer having reliable stabs

[polar canyon]

The stabs aren't reliable when urshifu comes out

[solid frigate]

wait does Lava Plume hit my ally

[polar canyon]

Yes

That's why people used it with bread dog

[autumn vault]

Who uses Dachsbun?

Literally no one

[solid frigate]

ok maybe Heat Wave and Flamethrower or Overheat and Flamethrower

[polar canyon]

It was a thing because of a youtube video featuring it

I don't remember what big comp poketuber did it

[autumn vault]

Cybertron?

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098762204 probably the most worthless Tera I’ve ever seen

[polar canyon]

Is there a greek god named psycho

[autumn vault]

Protecting is worthless (Turn 3)

[molten oasis]

Literally

[solid frigate]

i swear having double snarl feels evil until you have like Calyrex

[molten oasis]

And I speed creep all caly thats not scarf

[autumn vault]

Tera normal did not benefit it at all, i wouldn't tbh

[molten oasis]

Yea who would, I’m so confused on that turn

Like was he expecting shadow ball?

[autumn vault]

Probably idk

[polar canyon]

Do people not use like tera fairy or something

That sounds nice

[solid frigate]

i swear the only thing that can hit Ting Lu is Ogerpon-

[polar canyon]

Does the tera crystal hat go on the horse or on calyrex?

[solid frigate]

for my team

[molten oasis]

Admittedly I think I was fine if he had Tera fairy

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/1bdce08e5eee0c34
https://pokepast.es/ee19d6f47433f673
Which is better? The 2nd team is incomplete but i am just making another team just to counter calyrex ice

[molten oasis]

If he didn’t Tera normal I was bringing in p2 and setting tr

[autumn vault]

They use normal to tank other astral barrages and shadow balls

[polar canyon]

Wisp incin works well enough for caly ice

If they're clear amulet it's still a burn

[autumn vault]

Tera fire

[polar canyon]

Ah ok

[autumn vault]

I have been seeing a lot of tera fire Calyrex Ice

[polar canyon]

If it's closed team sheet might as well try

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/ee19d6f47433f673 Advice?

I play CTS, occasionally OTS but i dont play Bo3

I dont have enough time for that

[dapper crag]

Bro I used to play bo3 all the time

Who's your favourite operator

Mine is firebreak

[mighty stump]

Wrong chat.

[dapper crag]

He said bo3

[mighty stump]

Bo3 is for Best Of 3

[dapper crag]

You don't even know what type of bo3 I'm talking about

[autumn vault]

This is the Bo3 i meant

[mighty stump]

Are you thinking Blops is like

some

niche game

[dapper crag]

Black ops 3

[mighty stump]

yeah

Blops

[autumn vault]

I do not play Black Ops 3

[mighty stump]

how do you play Cod Blops and not know its called blops

and somehow mistake it for Bo3 in a pokemon chat with CTS/OTS context clues in the sentence

within an ongoing conversation

about pokemon

[mighty stump]

Heal Pulse over LIfe Dew

Needs Protect on Clefairy as well for FO leads

[autumn vault]

I am just building a team because Calyrex Ice is giving a run for my money

[mighty stump]

I don't think this is the way to do it

Clefairy doesn't magically fix Zekrom

[dapper crag]

Is ogerpon fire and interwar a good leaf

Lead

Incinror

[mighty stump]

Depends on the context.

[polar canyon]

Blops

[autumn vault]

friend guard helps it to take less damage while i follow me and ddance safely

[willow vault]

Bronzing is the goat it just ohko’d a kyurem-black

[autumn vault]

I swept whole teams with zekrom so more protection is always nice

[mighty stump]

Until you meet spread moves

which is

the entire name of the game here

[autumn vault]

why i have wide guard

[dapper crag]

Blops is such a bad name

[mighty stump]

You can't have both Clefairy and Hitmontop on the field at the same time as Zekrom

[dapper crag]

Just call it bo3 or black ops 3

[autumn vault]

true

[polar canyon]

Might as well do tera fire for the dgleam resist + burnproof

[willow vault]

I mean it’s literally just a combination of the words black and ops, I don’t see what’s so bad about the name

[polar canyon]

Blops

[solid frigate]

Blops

[willow vault]

Blops

[autumn vault]

Blops

[dapper crag]

Ok ok how bout we just call it

[willow vault]

Blops

[dapper crag]

Call of duty: black ops 3

[solid frigate]

Blops

[autumn vault]

Tera fire makes Zekrom keep the ground weakness

And will o wisp can be redirected easily with FM

[polar canyon]

Not if you have hitmontop in the field

[autumn vault]

Earth power high horsepower and stomping tantrum exist

[bold geode]

Blops

[polar canyon]

Stomping tantrum hitmontop ain't killing incin lil bro

[solid frigate]

Sandsear Storm,Earthquake etc

[chrome knot]

tofu i hit a new low today

[autumn vault]

I meant single target moves

[mighty stump]

If Caly-I is your problem then that resist should be prioritised

[willow vault]

Same

[solid frigate]

wait how about double Powered-

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah let's not forget that fire does resist ice

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 644: Zekrom

Types

Dragon/Electric

Abilities

Teravolt

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/120/120/100/90

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[mighty stump]

If you're concerned about Single Target Ground weakness overlaps, but not concerned about Single Target status moves that may debilitate your sweeper

That's a bit funny

[autumn vault]

Well on my original Zekrom team i have 3 weaknesses to calyrex ice, incineroar and mushroom did not help so that is a good solution

[solid frigate]

i mean it can survive a resisted one

[polar canyon]

It's not because one plan didn't work that the next one guaranteed will

[solid frigate]

F

[willow vault]

I fell back to the 1000s so not great for me either

[mighty stump]

You what

[bold geode]

You Faked Out your own mon

[autumn vault]

I am still in the 1200's

[chrome knot]

i double clicked and fake out myself

[mighty stump]

Good job

[chrome knot]

its okay tho lmfao p2 is op

[bold geode]

I would talk shit, but I've done similar things before so

[polar canyon]

Why is that your username

[chrome knot]

bc lisa is my girlfriend :3

[bold geode]

Playing on mobile is a BITCH

[solid frigate]

i want to ask the same question before-

[mighty stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098674132-6kp5m70nc1zg66jxky46auv4lemz1pepw Meawhile I ruined this mans life while doing more random testing

[bold geode]

Uh oh

[mighty stump]

Ladder is still kinda empty I think

[solid frigate]

wait which one

[polar canyon]

Honestly shocked that the team survives a flutter mane

Sure the flutter mane on the enemy team didn't have the best plays

The fake out as it teras was pretty dope

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-fishie-tiny-pokemon-gif-1712513170322551993

me rn

[polar canyon]

Me always

[solid frigate]

anyways Naming Chi Yu Jade Lava

[polar canyon]

Chi yu is so cool

Just a goldfish that's so hot it can swim in stone

Because it turns into lava when it gets close

[solid frigate]

Its Eye have Jade on it so i named it Jade Lava

[polar canyon]

That sure is a name

Beads Lava

Would you name a chien pao metal snow

The swords are made of metal and it's made of snow

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/5b290a21cd9463de
Updated Chi Yu with Name

[solid frigate]

yeah kinda make sense, and Wo- Chien Maybe Grass Tablet-

[polar canyon]

Wood leaves

[solid frigate]

make sense

wait what does Ting Lu refer as a sin?

[polar canyon]

Big bowl

He bowl too big for he god damn head

[solid frigate]

LOL

[dapper crag]

Sableye bot please give me strength and weakness of every ogerpon form pls

[solid frigate]

Fear Bowl

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1017: Ogerpon

Type

Grass

Abilities

Defiant

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/84/60/96/110

Total

550

Other Formes

Ogerpon-Wellspring, Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Ogerpon-Cornerstone, Ogerpon-Teal-Tera, Ogerpon-Wellspring-Tera, Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera, Ogerpon-Cornerstone-Tera

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[solid frigate]

also there is Pokemon type calculator-

[polar canyon]

They all have the same stats

[valid widget]

won a ranked singles in the funniest way

[dapper crag]

@dapper crag pls now do corner stone ogerpon

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/1bdce08e5eee0c34 any changes to counter calyrex ice better?

[valid widget]

the opponent's trick failed on ogerpon

[polar canyon]

That's not how the bot works

[valid widget]

cuz hearthflame mask

[autumn vault]

Not how it works

[dapper crag]

Well I need to know tue weakness and strength of each oger pon

Pokémon No. 203: Girafarig

Types

Normal/Psychic

HP/Atk/Def/Spc/Spe

70/80/65/90/65/85

Total

455

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[autumn vault]

The bot does not have that, you have to research for it

[polar canyon]

Well it does

[dapper crag]

How do I do that

[autumn vault]

Google

[dapper crag]

Ogerpon-Hearthflame [Grass/Fire]

Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Fairy, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Flying, Poison, Rock

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.
Fire-types cannot be Burned.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

Ogerpon [Grass]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Grass, Ground, Water

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Fire, Flying, Ice, Poison

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

Ok sayvley now do rock ogerpon

[polar canyon]

The bot isn't doing it because you asked

[mighty stump]

Well

IF youre gonna spam it this hard

[autumn vault]

I got confused on what he said

[mighty stump]

#bot_commands

And if you're gonna spam it to entertain someone who can't really use google to a basic degree

Go there

[dapper crag]

Km not spam for entertainment

I need to know ogeprpn weaknes

[mighty stump]

You're right, I'm not entertained

[solid frigate]

thats more like strategise more than entertainment.

[polar canyon]

Just use like a flying type

Get a tornadus

[autumn vault]

Cornerstone murders it

[solid frigate]

Poison:

[polar canyon]

No one uses cornerstone

[solid frigate]

am i really forgettable

[mighty stump]

Also false

[autumn vault]

There are some teams that use it

[dapper crag]

But cornerstone I can set up

[autumn vault]

Just not as much as teal mask which is the 2nd least used ogerpon

[solid frigate]

if Cornerstone has a Different ability,what would it be tho

[polar canyon]

Sturdy isn't bad

[dapper crag]

It would be unseen fist

[polar canyon]

It's not great but has its uses

[autumn vault]

Only urshifu gets that

[polar canyon]

Who doesn't like a free sash

[chrome knot]

i used to use cornerstone !!

[autumn vault]

I like it

[dapper crag]

I use to use teal mask

[solid frigate]

wait it could be good on Trick Room Set in Reg G cuz Everything Almost OHKO with BS Calyrex Around

[valid widget]

atk > speed

[autumn vault]

Depends

[dapper crag]

My flutter mane can survive a surging strikes from urshifu

[autumn vault]

But mostly speed

[polar canyon]

Congrats

[autumn vault]

Everyone's flutter can survive that

[valid widget]

cuz with speed especially in doubles you just basically force lose cuz the armarouge indeedee team

[polar canyon]

That's true

[willow vault]

Not if you run focus sash

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon dies to Armor Canon or EF

[polar canyon]

You could still run bulky sash if you really want to

[mighty stump]

I don't know if I should be honest about the quality of these takes or let you all figure it out yourselves

[autumn vault]

I would only run bulk on it just to survive surging strikes

[valid widget]

true thats why speed is worse esecially on trick room