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#competitive_discussion
surreal echo
molten oasis
im just going terapagos rn for reg g
surreal echo
not a bad choice
probably the only restricted that doesn't immediately die to caly-s
molten oasis
surreal echo
why tera dark on gholdengo?
surreal echo
yeah i mean you have a ghost resist and ghost immunity
surreal echo
lets dengo sit infront of kyurem white for snow
is kyurem snow an actual thing or is it just a meme
molten oasis
it exists
surreal echo
hm
molten oasis
idt its bad but youre competing with sun
surreal echo
blizzard spam sounds scary
surreal echo
idt its bad but youre competing with sun
yeah i think i'll probably be fine
dawn crown
Does choice band work on urshifu rapid?
molten oasis
you could do that ig
surreal echo
Does choice band work on urshifu rapid?
it usually wants to run scarf tho
molten oasis
scarf just seems better
surreal echo
urshifu already does stupid damage
dawn crown
I’m just thinking that it might be able to OHKO terapagos
molten oasis
I’m just thinking that it might be able to OHKO terapagos
nothing
ohkos terapagos without boosts lol
i am curious
oh
252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar: 312-368 (116.8 - 137.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
so if it tera's yes
cyan smelt
Terapagos is so bulky
warped mason
anyone got a groudon walking wake team, that has answers to trick room calyrex ice teams?
I find i have alot of trouble in that matchup
molten oasis
Terapagos is so bulky
cyan smelt
I'm gonna put recover on ho oh instead of tailwind and hope that t wave is enough speed control
So euic starts in like 2 hours right?
molten oasis
yep
mighty stump
Twitter
knotty mirage
I have question can scarf chi yu outspeed caly shadow ?
pearl wind
yes
timid 252EVs caly-shadow hits 222 speed while scarf modest 252EVs Chi-Yu hits 228 speed
cyan smelt
eternatus seems very interesting
knotty mirage
timid 252EVs caly-shadow hits 222 speed while scarf modest 252EVs Chi-Yu hits 22...
Ah good too know
pearl wind
eternatus seems very interesting
it gets cosmic power 
cyan smelt
and recover
mighty stump
Stall Eternatus is a very real concept
You know whats funny
Max Spe Adamant Urshifu speed creeps Timid Shadowrex
molten oasis
shaowrex is interesting
maybe i just run max speed shifu lol
with scarf
that seems very valuable
pearl wind
what moves would cosmic power eternatus run? other than cosmic power (+recover)?
cyan smelt
sludge bomb and idk what else it gets
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
cyan smelt
the one i saw just now was running flamethrower
pearl wind
yeah flamethrower is probably required for steel types
cyan smelt
and ice types
molten oasis
flamethrowe and eternabeam/sludge bomb
pearl wind
flamethrowe and eternabeam/sludge bomb
yeah thats sounds alright 
cyan smelt
i'm having evil thoughts of eternatus behind screens now
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
molten oasis
jeez
cyan smelt
zamazenta is good too
molten oasis
yea
ig on paper it beats terapagos
idk about in practice
but thats where gholdengoat comes in
cyan smelt
iron def body press
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
cyan smelt
recover is working much better than tailwind for me on ho-oh
solid frigate
Terapagos is so bulky
tiny vapor
Does anyone have any recommendations for a moveset for guzzlord for the battle royale in usum?
solid frigate
why-
tiny vapor
For battle royal
solid frigate
Bulky Guzzlord Maybe?Sorry i did not really play the AAAAAAAAAAAAAA Pokemon that much
autumn vault
i don't know anything about battle royale so i can't say for sure
tiny vapor
I just need it for bulk but I don’t know anything about competitive Pokémon lol
autumn vault
I think you should go 252 attack 252 hp 4 on special defense
And for movepool
Dragon claw
Crunch
Protect
Whatever you want idk
tiny vapor
Does assault vest stop me from being able to protect?
autumn vault
Does assault vest stop me from being able to protect?
Yes
tiny vapor
Ah okay
autumn vault
With protect you can stall half of your turns and see the chaos between the other 3 opponents
The times you dont protect just finish off an opponent
tiny vapor
I’ve got a xurk as a main attacker rn, I think this guzzlord is mainly for not losing if xurk dies
But protect is a good idea, I’ll give it a shot
cinder adder
BP farming
upbeat quail
I just caught a 0 speed ting Lu. What’s the best build for it?
mighty stump
Assault Vest/Throat Chop/Stomping Tantrum/Heavy Slam +1
If with Gouging Fire/Dondozo, then you go Sand Tomb + Ruination
with Sitrus.
or Rocky Helmet
tiny vapor
I think you should go 252 attack 252 hp 4 on special defense
Would leftovers be a good item for the bulky boy?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
mighty stump
Invest in it's defenses lol not HP
tiny vapor
But would leftys be good?
cyan smelt
Then stockpile your way to success
mighty stump
This is for PvE content? Whatever is fine, lefties is fine.
tiny vapor
This is for PvE content? Whatever is fine, lefties is fine.
Okie thx
next stump
happy EUIC day
autumn vault
Happy EUIC day
chrome knot
hope yall seein that realize thatll be you if you try n build your team around a cute or favourite mon
timber falcon
What is euic
chrome knot
europe international championships
timber falcon
Oh so is there a regional going on?
autumn vault
Yes, i think
naive atlas
Can it be watched live anywhere?
chrome knot
ttv pokemon
real prairie
GL to anyone competing
Still sad I couldn't get in 😭
Am omw there to go to the pop up shop though, so if anyone is around let me know
drowsy spear
hope yall seein that realize thatll be you if you try n build your team around a...
Are you talking about the team with Gastrodon?
chrome knot
fezandipiti
drowsy spear
Lol I thought so, those definitely were some long games..
chrome knot
whole game plan was legit
ignore fezandipiti so he cant have a coherent 2 mons on the field lmfao
bold geode
https://rk9.gg/pairings/EU02whGbj7Vqpe87mRZT
Pairings for EUIC in case anyone wants em
rustic mountain
wat do we think wins euic
bold geode
"I think Wolfe Glick will win" ☝️🤓
chrome knot
balance wins
rustic mountain
upbeat quail
What would pair well with ting Lu in a tricm room team?
I just got my 0 speed ting lu and I wanna bonk some fools
rustic mountain
caly ice
atomic mural
https://rk9.gg/pairings/EU02whGbj7Vqpe87mRZT
Pairings for EUIC in case anyone wa...
Didn’t even know Wolfe was competing
upbeat quail
Oh shit, that’s a scary thought. Caly Ice in snow with ting Lu next to it.,.. that’s a bulky mon
bold geode
Why there no fucking music
bold geode
Didn’t even know Wolfe was competing
I believe he said he's only attending ICs now due to winning in Charlotte
atomic mural
Ah gotcha
atomic mural
Why there no fucking music
Facts
bold geode
Though I guess he could also defend Orlando
atomic mural
Okidogi survive huge
drowsy spear
And using drain punch was clutch
chrome knot
Why there no fucking music
freak pov picked no music
bold geode
freak pov picked no music
Fuckin weirdo
rustic mountain
they should never let the pov be someone who chooses no music
like come on this is horrible
chrome knot
should also prioritize english povs
bold geode
they should never let the pov be someone who chooses no music
Don't worry, if I'm on stream ever, I'm picking the most monkey music everytime
rustic mountain
haha good
bold geode
should also prioritize english povs
That one I can see
bold geode
Kit in comp chat ayo
autumn vault
I did not know Kitsumi checks out comp chat
atomic mural
Damn crit def mattered if it didn’t get 5 times
autumn vault
Anyone want to Bo3 Reg G?
foggy lodge
I made this https://pokepast.es/9a3cbcc0369d40a7
bold geode
Nah, watching EUIC rn
drowsy spear
Lol those scale shots was dicing up that team
autumn vault
I made this https://pokepast.es/9a3cbcc0369d40a7
EVs?
foggy lodge
Haven't done it
autumn vault
Also the team seems really pasive
autumn vault
not sure
atomic mural
Nahh this guy is so lucky
drowsy spear
Well that was a good comeback win
autumn vault
I sure love Calyrex ice teams
I love it when it bulldozes through my teams and when i rage on it
chrome knot
lmao
sharp cobalt
So uhm, what restricted non-SV/SwSh legend is best? Cuz I will shiny hunt it.
foggy lodge
Do like Flutter or whatever
Have a fast mode too
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/74e18d1a5c85b441 ?
So if you're Booster on Mane, you want Protect
bold geode
Oh so according to Tyo swords dance is good
Source?
bold geode
Oh I saw that post but not comments on Zacian
molten oasis
Grimm is incredibly good right now
Yea
He has trick iron ball with foul play fake out trick and, uhhh
Parting shot?
bold geode
Both Wolfe and MDB are 5-0
What if they were up on stream next round
brazen bough
is it ic rn
bold geode
Foul Play necessary
I need to watch Attack IVs now fuck
mighty stump
It is
molten oasis
Cool
brazen bough
damn
molten oasis
OH I see how that works
bold geode
But imagine
On stream again
Wolfe vs MDB
I think they fought in a Limitless tournament once
molten oasis
So you pair it with incin, and for things that have CA you can intimidate
brazen bough
i love mdb
molten oasis
Cuz you steal it with trick
molten oasis
Wait that’s sick
mighty stump
I used Trick Lagging Tail
bold geode
@mighty stump
Wolfe vs MDB
The strongest sorcerer in history vs the strongest sorcerer of today 
molten oasis
I used Trick Lagging Tail
Difference?
mighty stump
I don't really understand why Iron Ball unless its for TR stuff as well
brazen bough
I used Trick Lagging Tail
ooo
mighty stump
Difference?
Lagging Tail forces you to move last in the priority bracket
Irregardless of speed
brazen bough
that could work perfectly on a kyogre team
mighty stump
or board state
molten oasis
Oh ok
molten oasis
clear amulet
bold geode
The hand of the Quash animation shoves you in the fucking earth like Tien did to Imperfect Cell with those Tri Beams
brazen bough
does kyogre use origin pulse
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/fe46db31d1d62389 ok thoughts for a 6th?
brazen bough
https://pokepast.es/fe46db31d1d62389 ok thoughts for a 6th?
you want to 1v1 in a bit?
molten oasis
Sure
bold geode
does kyogre use origin pulse
Do bears shit in the woods?
bold geode
And it's a genuine answer
Yes
bold geode
Wait there's big ass boots in San Antonio?
Wtf else is in my state that idk about damn
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/fe46db31d1d62389 ok thoughts for a 6th?
?
atomic mural
Both Wolfe and MDB are 5-0
What if they were up on stream next round
What even is wolfeys team?
tough idol
Not sure what Wolfe running
bold geode
What even is wolfeys team?
🤷♂️
tough idol
If he keeps winning he'll end up on Stream eventually
uncut dawn
i'm going for master rank with my hisuian zoroark, and yes i made it work
bold geode
If he keeps winning he'll end up on Stream eventually
Only for R7 now
After that, they'll start showing like in R8 the 6-1s and then 6-2s in R9
autumn vault
Anyone Bo3?
tough idol
Ah y h forgot that Monke
molten oasis
Bruh
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2096667099 this thing ate a foul play
Wtf
Omg I lowered its attack that’s why
atomic mural
Clefairy goes crazy
bold geode
Wtf
Ice Punch Urshifu
atomic mural
Based
autumn vault
Wtf
Ice Punch Urshifu
Biased
autumn vault
That is a good reason then
bold geode
That was definitely an Unseen Fist heh
I'll leave now
atomic mural
That was definitely an Unseen Fist heh
I'll leave now
tough idol
Omg I lowered its attack that’s why
Nooooo
autumn vault
Omg I lowered its attack that’s why
Should not have parting shot it
warped mason
anyone here got a groudon walking wake team that does good into caly ice trickroom?
tough idol
Ooh focus energy Ogerpon
autumn vault
I have a Koraidon Wake team, not a groudon wake team
tough idol
Huge crit
autumn vault
What are good ways to counter Calyrex ice?
tough idol
Foul Play is one I know of
autumn vault
I meant ice
Shadow riders i eat for breakfast
Ice riders eat my team for breakfast
tough idol
Ah then no idea, I never ran into any when I played.
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.0
tough idol
Chilling with stream atm then off Impidimp hunting lol 😆 want a Grimm with a good mark
autumn vault
I am using my sun team and i already have Chi-Yu so incineroar is off the table
slow raft
Currently at EUIC, front row seat watching. Looking forward to watching Wolfe Glick's match
tough idol
Assuming he gets one
autumn vault
Which is very likely
slow raft
I think it was shown he will
Just not on stream I saw
Unless that's spoilers then sorry 😞
autumn vault
I wont watch the EUIC so i am fine
tough idol
Haha np, some of us kinda wanna know what he's running anyway
What's wifi like at the venue @slow raft
atomic mural
Unless that's spoilers then sorry 😞
Do you know what wolfeys running?
tough idol
Liverpool was terrible, we had to go outside to find pairings
slow raft
What's wifi like at the venue <@348044783136276481>
Haven't used the wifi, just my data
tough idol
Ah fair
slow raft
Do you know what wolfeys running?
Not seen his team as of yet
I know he is 5-0 atm
I got here late because I went in the Pokemon Centre.. which I found very disappointing this year
tough idol
Focus Energy Ogerpon released
autumn vault
Focus Energy Ogerpon released <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
Ficus Energy 
tough idol
Self Parting Shot play
warped mason
lol
slow raft
This clefairy hitting sing again
warped mason
Kyurem W will be at B tier in my tier list
yea its a solid mon this format. perfect abuser of alolan 9tails
specs tera Ice just makes it absurd
AV is also solid too
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/d8ca5f76f1abffe0 should i remove tornadus? I am having a bad time against Calyrex ice in tr and i need a consistent way of either killing the tr setters or killing calyrex ice rider consistently
slow raft
Actually wild that the tv screen with the VG side is having issues, like it's got lines going through it every now and again, but all the others are fine
plain drum
molten oasis
Ok, not doing overall great but also
warped mason
any changes I should make to this? https://pokepast.es/7d9113e1ad308020
bold geode
Damn
That was wild
tough idol
Clefairy stonks
molten oasis
Oh is EUIC still going?
bold geode
Yes
tough idol
Yh Rd6 just finishing
bold geode
Game 2 wasn't looking too good for Arash, but he pulled it out quite well
tough idol
Clef and a burnt Ursh. I thought he was done
molten oasis
Rn I feel like I’m lacking offense on the team, so I’m gonna probably replace something to change that
Lost to kyogre a couple times. Tera+Fari is fucking annoying
and also I see why you all like lando so much lol
slow raft
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/c7f992a5dbb706af thoughts on a 6th? Bolt just ended up feeling kinda bad
Fari is also pretty annoying
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2096693085-jzjoolaknzx7veq1po...
That turn 2 was sp unfortunate fo your opponent
autumn vault
Btw that bolt had a very bad spread
Dying immediately to an earth power is a sign of a bad spread
Your spread (and my version) survive it
upbeat quail
Anyone got any suggestions for a Ice-rider calyrex trick room team?
autumn vault
You need crazy amount of investment to survive it without +1 SpD or AV
upbeat quail
Also, I don’t have a zero speed calyrex, can it still work?
autumn vault
Anyone got any suggestions for a Ice-rider calyrex trick room team?
OTOT has one
Also a 0 speed calyrex isn't too necessary
You are fine without a 0 speed calyrex
molten oasis
Dude I fight just got fucking 5 crits
upbeat quail
Okay cool
molten oasis
And I got 0
autumn vault
Tragic
upbeat quail
OTOT has one
Can you link me the team please?
tough idol
Ooh Wolfe 5-1
chrome knot
wolfe vs flavio r7
mighty stump
LEt's go LORCY
molten oasis
I hate this damn caly man
Literally doesn’t feel beatable with constant redirection
Shadow, caly ice feels fine
No terrain control is also kind of annoying
tough idol
Bleakwind Miss
chrome knot
jesus christ lorcy ur scarin me
tough idol
Was a good Game 2
molten oasis
Team good so far lol
https://pokepast.es/4d91ce206d402fa3 not sure if I like wellspring or amoonguss rn, but I like the core
mostly having both
autumn vault
Shadow, caly ice feels fine
It is the other way around if you are me
Use snarl chi yu
solid frigate
i at least beat shadow rider
solid frigate
What are good counters to Calyrex ice?
incineroar for intimidate Pivots,and maybe ummmmmmmmmmm, some Pokemon thats is good against its typing?
autumn vault
incineroar for intimidate Pivots,and maybe ummmmmmmmmmm, some Pokemon thats is g...
It is an ice psychic type
Kingambit seems pretty good into it assuming it teras
solid frigate
Kingambit seems pretty good into it assuming it teras
its good, plus defiant kingambit rocks
autumn vault
I am using my koraidon team and it in trick room is so annoying
solid frigate
I am using my koraidon team and it in trick room is so annoying
My team ain't better
autumn vault
Yeah i have flutter and chi yu but they are useless in tr
solid frigate
my team Terapagos and Bolt are the slowest
and they are not good in trick room if i set up wind so thats why when i see trick room team i am scared as fu
autumn vault
The slowest pokemon in my team is probably venusaur without sun
With sun it would be torn
So you can tell i hate that MU
solid frigate
oh wait my slowest is incin-
solid frigate
So you can tell i hate that MU
yeah i can tell,there is a reason why Terapagos is currently my most comfortable to use,Lunala Trick Room and Kyogre Scarf feels too out of my battle style
molten oasis
Use snarl chi yu
Chi yu doesn’t work on this team
And it would take over incin
Also caly ice just doesn’t like amoonguss
Cuz I make it go sleep
tough idol
Ooh Wolfe 5-2 now
fallen garden
Washed up
uncut dawn
what's the best tera for groudon?
next stump
Fire IMO
molten oasis
Definitely fire
uncut dawn
yeah, i was thinking about fire too since the main problem rn is ogerpon
fallen garden
Is the next reg confirmed?
uncut dawn
Is the next reg confirmed?
after g?
stray badger
I have realized that my team is not good against Heathflame
No offense to it, 2 weak to fire
uncut dawn
the counter for my team is myself
solid frigate
I have realized that my team is not good against Heathflame
uncut dawn
i always bring something outmeta just for the funnies
solid frigate
can you show the teams?
stray badger
How do I show EVs in Pokepaste?
grizzled bronze
upload using showdown, it'll put all the details of your team
stray badger
I did, it doesn't show EVs
grizzled bronze
make sure it's not (OTS) option
stray badger
How do I uncheck that?
grizzled bronze
How do I uncheck that?
second option
stray badger
solid frigate
any water type?
grizzled bronze
too passive?
solid frigate
also where are the water types-\
chrome knot
you dont need one…?
grizzled bronze
tera water amoong /s
chrome knot
good to have fwg core but its not necessary
solid frigate
water fire grass core-
stray badger
I could give Goodra a water move
molten oasis
Massive double protect
solid frigate
Massive double protect
nice
molten oasis
On stream
Literally that was his out he just won from there
Unless gouging protected
solid frigate
damn
stray badger
Maybe I should remove Draco meteor with muddy water?
molten oasis
For what
stray badger
H-Goodra
solid frigate
Maybe I should remove Draco meteor with muddy water?
no not that
grizzled bronze
congrats
molten oasis
Yo nice
tough idol
Not shiny, but got 2 Recluse Impidimp
stray badger
Heavy slam?
molten oasis
What is the team
next stump
@tough idol I have a shiny recluse grimmsnarl if you want to use it, I never have used it
grizzled bronze
isnt the standard hoodra set idbp heavy slam and protect?
molten oasis
Yes
tough idol
Shiny doesn't particularly bother me tbh. I just like having fun marks
stray badger
What is the team
stray badger
I don't know what I'm doing, give suggestions
molten oasis
Also this team looks really really passive
grizzled bronze
yeah too many passive mons
stray badger
My only 2 requirements are Goodra and shiny
molten oasis
…
So that means shifu is completely off the table
not that shifu would be good here
And ogerpon
grizzled bronze
recommend starting with a hoodra rental imo
molten oasis
k
grizzled bronze
pretty sure there's at least one
molten oasis
Ursaluna over rilla
You need damage
Flame orb, 252hp 252 att 4spD brave is probably fine
0 speed on it
molten oasis
pretty sure there's at least one
I doubt there’s one where he can go all shiny
molten oasis
lofty tartan
I always decide on a team first and then catch the shinies, because they're super easy now. Barring shiny-locked stuff 🤷
bold geode
Wolfe might be on stream R9 now
Mfer 6-2
lofty tartan
Limiting yourself to what you have in your shiny box is really tough though.
grizzled bronze
very true
stray badger
Pikalytics doesn't give Tera types
grizzled bronze
munchstats does i think
molten oasis
Wolfe might be on stream R9 now
Mfer 6-2
Lmk if that’s the case
lofty tartan
Pikalytics does, but you have to click a button. It's tracking from Switch
stray badger
It gives Ursaluna facade, protect, earthquake, and headlong rush
molten oasis
Also yea, you’re forcing yourself out of some of the best options
lofty tartan
Hit "Reg F Switch"
molten oasis
Shifu, ogerpon, bolt, etc
upbeat quail
Can someone help me build a team with Ice Rider Calyrex, Ting Lu, and gallade please?
molten oasis
Can someone help me build a team with Ice Rider Calyrex, Ting Lu, and gallade pl...
Indeedee armarouge or Hatterene and amoonguss can finish that team
Gallade is used on psyspam and psyspam only
atomic mural
Aight Wolfey at 6-2 right now (probably no stream match today for him)
stray badger
https://pokepast.es/0e35c40434b9f142
Anything else?
molten oasis
Protect over Draco on hoodra
grizzled bronze
do we really need 2 tr setter
molten oasis
Protect is pretty much required with lefties
chrome knot
Aight Wolfey at 6-2 right now (probably no stream match today for him)
could stream his win&in
r9 is always a 6-2 match
molten oasis
Is r9 the last round today?
chrome knot
yes
molten oasis
Cool
chrome knot
6 rounds tomorrow iirc
molten oasis
Damn
lofty tartan
do we really need 2 tr setter
Definitely not uncommon - any amount of things can go wrong where having just one can be a huge downfall.
Also having only one makes your team a lot more linear. You have to bring that one mon to ensure your gameplan
molten oasis
Might as well have 2
lofty tartan
I definitely like utilizing either Indeedee or Farigiraf as a TR setter a lot more because they bring a lot more than just TR to the table
grizzled bronze
i see
stray badger
So Cresselia and Porygon2 are interchangeable depending on the other team?
lofty tartan
Yeah, or you can take two into a match if it makes sense, to extend TR if they're capable of stalling, or have different threats. Like Ursaluna functions a lot better next to Cress than P2 - P2 is serviceable but lacks distinct synergy there.
Different coverage options, different bulk, etc.
It's really match dependent for sure
stray badger
I'll probably figure it out.. eventually..
lofty tartan
I just think being able to stop priority with Indeedee/Farig is valuable in the meta, personally.
molten oasis
Yea
lofty tartan
And yeah, you'll figure it out. Building teams isn't just slam six pokemon down, they perform, and you're off to the races. Trial and error is a big thing
molten oasis
It makes kyogre very annoying to handle
grizzled bronze
I just think being able to stop priority with Indeedee/Farig is valuable in the ...
offers more tools too
lofty tartan
Yeah they pack a lot of support on their kits.
Farigiraf more offensive but very good
molten oasis
Fari stonks
stray badger
I would like to have a more long term team seeing as I'm shiny hunting them...
molten oasis
Teams change all the time
lofty tartan
Regardless of anything, this team has an expiration date of May 1st
Once Reg G kicks in, you're going to be at a disadvantage into Restricted mons.
foggy lodge
Tsareena is coming back wujuu
grizzled bronze
no team is permanent
lofty tartan
Teams do change all the time - shiny hunting is super easy now. Part of the fun is gathering the things and training them up, to some.
stray badger
Guess I just have to get the living dex 
molten oasis
I have a shiny Zac I’m very excited to go use in ladder
Cuz I’m finally getting it to function well
I went back to my roots with swords dance
foggy lodge
I have a Shiny Zygarde but it's not programmed 🙂
lofty tartan
Like if I have a shiny Kingambit built, and I want a different Kingambit set, I go hunt a new shiny and train that instead of undoing my resources spent on Kingambit #1. I've done this since Reg A
grizzled bronze
im excited and at the same time not for reg g
lofty tartan
Drago's seen part of my Competitive boxes.
stray badger
At least I'll be able to shiny hunt the Brilliant Diamond legendaries soon
lofty tartan
I added Flutter #6 to the special boxes, Drago.
molten oasis
Lmao
lofty tartan
I gotta filter out things that have fallen out of favor. I transferred a whole box of shiny legends from Sword last week 
foggy lodge
Hunting a Ursaluna Bloodmoon 0 iv attack and 0 iv speed
lofty tartan
Yeah but I still like him into Caly-S for the most part.
stray badger
I hope they add lazy training
molten oasis
What?
stray badger
Train your pokemon to be lazy in a stat
lofty tartan
Ohhhhh. Uhhh technically you can
molten oasis
Wtf does that mean
stray badger
The opposite of hyper training
lofty tartan
I think he means like driving down IVs
molten oasis
So rusty bottle caps
lofty tartan
We do need "rusty" bottle caps.
Realistically they'd only ever get used on Attack and Speed though.
lofty tartan
Ehhhh 0 Speed isn't always necessary.
I have a 4 speed BM Ursa and that's just fine 🤷
molten oasis
Ehhhh 0 Speed isn't always necessary.
Sometimes it is tho
lofty tartan
Yeah that's why I said "isn't always"
molten oasis
Yea
lofty tartan
Sometimes it matters because people are being really specific about their speed values
And then you can like undercreep them lol
lofty tartan
A lot of people just often think that their entire 6 absolutely requires 0 Speed IVs and it's a migraine waiting to happen
molten oasis
Yea true
lofty tartan
For some it's optimal, for others maybe not, I guess 
foggy lodge
We do need "rusty" bottle caps.
Pleaseeee
stray badger
I just find the idea of training a pokemon to be "worse" is inherently funny
foggy lodge
Or even just reworking the bottle caps to let you adjust the ivs as you want
lofty tartan
I mean it's not worse. It's better because it acts faster in TR, which is the main objective of the team.
That's optimal. It's a choice of words 😄
foggy lodge
Pokémon like Tornadus run 20 ivs in speed sometimes
molten oasis
Why
stray badger
I mean it in terms like "who trains to be slower"
lofty tartan
Just give us a battle revolution simulator because training a team and playing VGC are inherently separate skill sets.
And I dunno about the 20 speed IVs with max speed opposing Torn and Whimiscott existing
foggy lodge
Idk, some Tornadus just run it
stray badger
Yeah in game it's better but you're making the stat worse
lofty tartan
Lower speed value just means you always eat the taunt.
molten oasis
Yep
lofty tartan
If people are running it, I can't imagine it's optimal. Take what others run with a grain of salt.
lofty tartan
Yeah in game it's better but you're making the stat worse
That's perspective. You're just hard-wired to think "big number good small number bad"
stray badger
You train to make the IVs better, what would it be called if you made the IVs worse? Hyperlazing?
foggy lodge
That's perspective. You're just hard-wired to think "big number good small numb...
Sure, i run my Tornadus with 31 and a lot of invest in speed, just that some people were running Tornadus like that
lofty tartan
It seems small but a name conflict or confusion can actually be deal breakers for features if they can't be resolved.
lofty tartan
Sure, i run my Tornadus with 31 and a lot of invest in speed, just that some peo...
I mean the truth is if that some people were running it like that, those some people were running bad sets, and you should ignore them
lofty tartan
Even the 0 speed investment Torns that I've run were 31 speed.
Incin =/= Torn.
There's reasons to stagger Incin's speed
grizzled bronze
Wolfey was running his Incineroar with 27 speed ivs
it was to hit a certain speed tier
foggy lodge
Yeah but i was talking about the need of a rusty cap or something like that, not saying that Torn 20 speed ivs is optimal
molten oasis
Slow parting shot is really good
But being faster with fo is also valuable
Pick your poison
stray badger
With rusty bottle caps they could also add a new title, "[Pokemon] the once lazy"
grizzled bronze
so many incin sets you can run lmao
molten oasis
It’s a very good and flexible Mon
grizzled bronze
truly the jack of all trades
foggy lodge
Any intimidate pokemon who can be good in reg G?
knotty mirage
Incin
grizzled bronze
incin lmao
foggy lodge
Obviously Inci but any other one?
grizzled bronze
i guess there's hitmontop too
foggy lodge
Because i feel like Inci can just outclass any other Intimidate user in reg G
tough idol
I'm messing about trying work with Scrafty for fun
molten oasis
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 236 HP / 228+ Def Amoonguss: 186-218 (84.9 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery neat
grizzled bronze
god damn
molten oasis
Mushroom stonks
knotty mirage
Sitrus berry activate agains't calyrex ?
lofty tartan
No
chrome knot
no
lofty tartan
As One - Unnerve
mighty stump
It's not about the Sitrus
lofty tartan
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 236 HP / 228+ Def Amoonguss: 186-21...
AAhhhaaaaaa calc screwed up
molten oasis
What?
tough idol
Calc for having Weezing out lol 😆
lofty tartan
Calc shows Sitrus recovery against Caly-I
molten oasis
Oh wtf
mighty stump
It's still a 2HKO anyways
lofty tartan
^
molten oasis
I thought MY calc was wrong
chrome knot
to whoever wanted wolfe on stream
molten oasis
Not the calculator being weird lol
chrome knot
there he is ! !
tough idol
Wolfe win and in on stream
molten oasis
Oh hype
tough idol
Just wanna see what team he brought lul
molten oasis
He brought incin
Whole point is
Me get spore
Has he?
He’s won an international?
tough idol
Yh think he's only person who's done all 3
molten oasis
That’s insane
Beat up?
Wolfe has double genie rapid strike
I’m assuming it’s rapid
Yep
SASH TORN?
grizzled bronze
bleakwind go brr
molten oasis
Ah yes, “I get walled by gholdengo” fluttermane
grizzled bronze
terracott what
tough idol
Moogus clutch lol 😆
molten oasis
Who’s winning
tough idol
Wolfe atm
stray badger
Are there any promising looking Regulation G mons that aren't shiny locked?
little plank
@gentle delta I took your meteor beam armorouge team and replaced armorouge with lunala with moongeist beam instead of armor cannon and went straight to top 300 love this team lmao
molten oasis
Did he bring Rain?
Rain torn shifu with lando i
bold geode
Rain torn shifu with lando i
No bridge boy?
bold geode
Deadass no bridge boy wtf
molten oasis
His opponent has getting walled by gholdengo flutter syndrome lmao
icy wind moonblast dazzling flutter
tough idol
bold geode
BEAT UP TERRAKION?!
bold geode
Wow it's actually fucked how good it is in here rn
stray badger
If both teams have a trick room would it just become a mind game of either gambling on your opponent setting it up for you, neither of you set it up, or you both try to set it up and it cancels out?
tough idol
Shiny Kartana today ✨️
grizzled bronze
very nice
solid frigate
Deadass no bridge boy wtf
sad
molten oasis
Shiny Kartana today ✨️
solid frigate
BEAT UP TERRAKION?!
Terrakion:Gets Beat up
Also Terrakion:Lemme cook
stray badger
✈️
grizzled bronze
ggs
stray badger
This is all flying over my head
tough idol
EUIC tournament. If you wait a bit someone will timestamp the video to skip straight to games.
1 speed point lul
warped mason
blizzard spam is so good
lofty tartan
Yeah the ICs have really big payouts for sure
You'd hope, with how much of a cash cow these events are
bold geode
That'll be it. Wolfe into Day 2.
Other than Worlds 2023, I don't think he hasn't day 2'd in a single event he's gone to though so
tough idol
The Gastro/Fezandipiti team made Day 2 also
bold geode
I just wonder what his thoughts were making that team
Like I know you're only going to ICs due to having invite now
But that team is plain Jane for sure
bold geode
The Gastro/Fezandipiti team made Day 2 also
What
tough idol
Flavios team. Beat Wolfe in Swisd
bold geode
Flavio is running Fezandipiti?
I mean he did take Baxcalibur and Heatran into finals of Liverpool so
So
How many snow teams though
autumn vault
Chi yu doesn’t work on this team
I was just saying snarl Chi-Yu is a really good answer, but fair point
molten oasis
I got snarl incin
tough idol
@bold geode had to find it again lol
autumn vault
I got snarl incin <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
most likely better, also what a funky team that guy has
molten oasis
Helping hand incin too wtf
solid frigate
autumn vault
I respect him a lot
polar canyon
Palkia still only having hydro pump for viable water move is sad
molten oasis
Oof
autumn vault
I mean it to the fezandipity guy not you torrent
solid frigate
Palkia still only having hydro pump for viable water move is sad
sad moment,surf does not work-
solid frigate
I mean it to the fezandipity guy not you torrent
ik.
polar canyon
Gastrodon being the west variant is very important
Is the reg g meta still too new to have a stable idea of the main archetypes?
tough idol
Calys, Groudon, Kyogre seem to be all over the place
autumn vault
Is the reg g meta still too new to have a stable idea of the main archetypes?
not too early but not that early
polar canyon
I've seen koraidon a lot but that could just be a lot of people trying the new guy
I wanted to try kyurem black but having to pick between clear amulet and loaded dice is annoying
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> had to find it again lol
Oh we full delulu then
polar canyon
That's heavy slam heatran too
molten oasis
Gastrodon being the west variant is very important
Why
solid frigate
Storm Drain?
polar canyon
Because it looks nicer
molten oasis
Bruh
bold geode
I've also seen Shuca berry Incin twice now in EUIC
molten oasis
I've also seen Shuca berry Incin twice now in EUIC
Wild
polar canyon
I fought tera dragon groudon and dragon cheer moon the other day which was pretty funny
Especially funny since they tried to set up in front of snow kyurem
molten oasis
Some dude thought he could beat me with ting Lu wo chien gastrodon and ho-oh today, then I read his switch into gastro and he forfeit
tough idol
Apparently not so good
polar canyon
I completely forgot about it until I saw it again in the showdown suggestions
molten oasis
I’ve only beaten them so idk
polar canyon
It's like pretty bulky
molten oasis
It spams cosmic power but snarling it or just giving it damage reduction makes it a dead spot
“All my friends are dead” syndrome lol
polar canyon
They really gave it no setup past cosmic power
bold geode
I haven't even heard of eternatus yet
I know Tofu said it could be used for like
Stall
But that's probably about it
livid vine
Anybody wanna be a g and help me get a Raging Bolt? All the ones on the Home GTS are hacked beyond belief
tough idol
Top 50 after Day 1
bold geode
Lmao
That's something for sure
But trade channels your best bet
We don't do trading here
tough idol
Also
livid vine
got it ty
tough idol
I think Jeudy went out too
Jeudy got 7-2
bold geode
Yeah
EUIC was stacked
molten oasis
That’s so many notable names too
bold geode
Jeudy got 7-2
Ah
Did Eric Rios participate?
tough idol
87 7-2 into Day 2
bold geode
That’s so many notable names too
Nicholas Donnely also got knocked out
molten oasis
tough idol
Eric 6-3
bold geode
As I said
Looking at the brackets
It was stacked
molten oasis
If I go to NAIC I’m gonna get steamrolled lmao
All I can do is believe in sword dog when the time comes
polar canyon
Or get enough crits and dodges
tough idol
Someone in my UK players Discord lol
polar canyon
It's just how pokemon works
molten oasis
Mm
Seems like you were saying I suck and need to rely on rng
Also as we know, RNGsus hates me
polar canyon
No you're saying you suck
bold geode
Someone in my UK players Discord lol
OH DAYUM Shohei was there too?
molten oasis
polar canyon
Anyone can rely on rng
tough idol
OH DAYUM Shohei was there too?
Yh went 3-3 and dropped
molten oasis
I rely on my playmaking and skill lol
bold geode
Probably didn't wanna have to fully rely on the wack ass Japan circuit to get an invite
molten oasis
And I’m not a bad player I just think very illogically when I get upset
polar canyon
I think illogically often
bold geode
Yh went 3-3 and dropped
But 3-3
Bro didn't even go for points sadge
polar canyon
I don't have to be upset
bold geode
And I’m not a bad player *I just think very illogically when I get upset*
You're illogical
tough idol
All I can do is believe in sword dog when the time comes
Indianapolis 1st Reg G I think
molten oasis
Oh it did send
polar canyon
I wonder what the top players are cooking up for reg g
molten oasis
I want that as a emoji
tough idol
No more UK regionals left. Stockholm and Bologna left I believe
bold geode
Drago don't send that again lmao
molten oasis
Nah fuck you
bold geode
No more UK regionals left. Stockholm and Bologna left I believe
They playing on lunch meat wtf
tough idol
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-toy-story-nodding-smile-and-nod-gif-117309...
This is me when mentioning Palafin balance name
tough idol
NAIC in June after these
upbeat quail
Gallade is used on psyspam and psyspam only
Why is gallade used only on psyspam and nothing else?
bold geode
Think I'll be going on vacay to Grand Canyon around when NAIC is happening
molten oasis
Why is gallade used only on psyspam and nothing else?
There’s just better options
upbeat quail
Should’ve kept the gif lol
upbeat quail
So instead if I just want ice rider Caly and ting lu on a team, what should I use to complete that core? I’m thinking Incin for sure
But I suck at team building
molten oasis
Farigiraf
tough idol
still best
molten oasis
Amoonguss
gentle delta
<@394232736258195457> I took your meteor beam armorouge team and replaced armoro...
Shush dont spoil my next video
upbeat quail
Ice Caly, Ting Lu, Farig, Incin, Amoonguss, and Alolan Ninetales?
gentle delta
Ice Caly, Ting Lu, Farig, Incin, Amoonguss, and Alolan Ninetales?
Solid
If you wanna be spicy go scarf ninetails instead of light clay
Turn 1 Aurora Veil + TR, turn 2 switch to shroom or ting
upbeat quail
Ohh scarf is interesting. I was thinking covert cloak honestly. Getting faked out on turn 1 when trying to set veil is rough
gentle delta
I think a9 is so overkill for caly ice
You are wrong
molten oasis
why
upbeat quail
Why not capitalize on the bulkiness?
molten oasis
What’s the point
upbeat quail
That way they have to choose between focusing on Calyrex or trying to stop me from setting up snow/veil
molten oasis
You already do that with incin support
molten oasis
That way they have to choose between focusing on Calyrex or trying to stop me fr...
I’m killing the fox everytime
gentle delta
Thats why scarf
upbeat quail
Then that’s a free trick room or glacial lance 🙂
upbeat quail
Thats why scarf
I see what you mean
molten oasis
I ain’t even gonna dive into this
gentle delta
I ain’t even gonna dive into this
Good because im not in the mood to explain why you’re wrong tbh
molten oasis
So what Tera ghost scarf
molten oasis
Good because im not in the mood to explain why you’re wrong tbh
Saaaame
upbeat quail
I wanna hear both sides of this argument low key
Just so I can understand it better and hear both valid points
👍 I gotchu.
atomic portal
this is a childish argument lol
gentle delta
Nah im not even arguing thats the thing
atomic portal
🙄
gentle delta
I’ve already tested ninetails + calyrex it’s incredible. Im not gonna argue my case with someone whos proven to me time and time again in the past they dont know what they’re talking about
Its like talking to a brick wall so idgaf
bold geode
Good because im not in the mood to explain why you’re wrong tbh
Kinda rude tbh but I'm not diving into this either
Don't be rude
upbeat quail
Alright fellow gamers let’s just keep on gaming. Sorry for starting stuff, I’ve just seen great ideas from both of you and was curious to see Both sides’ thoughts.
solid frigate
what happen-
gentle delta
Alright fellow gamers let’s just keep on gaming. Sorry for starting stuff, I’ve ...
You’re fine
solid frigate
i just spawned in and what the heck is going on
bold geode
And now that I've stated that, I'm leaving before I get fuckin muted or banned for shit
Good bye
atomic portal
<:GrenSmh:618664623796912148> i just spawned in and what the heck is going on
the greatest vgc minds are holding a civilized convo
tough idol
Lul
gentle delta
Nah I deleted my long message that was indeed rude
Just didn’t care for Dragos kneejerk “you’re both wrong” response
karmic temple
Competitive getting spicy today bois and girls
molten oasis
Fr
timber falcon
thoughts on specs rotom wash?
autumn vault
Imo it is outdated
It can shine from time to time but the washing machine will go out of power for restricted formats
For legendary formats it is hardly viable
timber falcon
its carrying me rn though lol
idk what im doing but somehow i havent lost a game with it, its paired with chi yu
tough idol
What Reg?
timber falcon
G
autumn vault
Honestly the performamce in Reg G is probably not going to be that good
molten oasis
wouldnt flutter just be better there?
tough idol
How did I forget Moogus got Foul Play lol
timber falcon
wouldnt flutter just be better there?
why didnt i think?
flutter does look much better
molten oasis
0- Atk Amoonguss Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider: 116-140 (66.2 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
i also dont think thats worth it
molten oasis
0- Atk Amoonguss Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 102-120 (49.2 - 57.9%) -- 95.3% chance to 2HKO
timber falcon
i like those odds
molten oasis
its probably gonna tera fire infront of chi yu, and shifu, and lunala
and you do plenty to it clicking spore
timber falcon
in my defence im not one to think that far ahead of things
molten oasis
its ok youre learning
molten oasis
if they all magically start running grass tera or goggles lol
then sure i can see it
but they dont, and you can also run like, sludge bomb
timber falcon
ok so im replacing rotom wash with flutter, but what set?
timber falcon
but they dont, and you can also run like, sludge bomb
sludge bomb works in what sutuation?
i dont think its gonna do anything to caly-ice
molten oasis
sludge bomb works in what sutuation?
its not for caly ice
timber falcon
oh then for what
timber falcon
oh ok
molten oasis
if you want healing pollen puff is always reliable
is the bulk on chi yu general?
and do you outspeed all caly s (that arent scarf)?
atomic mural
molten oasis
whats the reason for taunt on hearthflame?
also i think you just have to pick between protect and wide guard
gentle delta
its probably gonna tera fire infront of chi yu, and shifu, and lunala
I think people are making a mistake with tera fire tbh
I wouldn’t wanna pick up a ground weakness rn
timber falcon
is the bulk on chi yu general?
i just copied pikalytics
molten oasis
mk, do you know what speed it hits?
timber falcon
210
atomic mural
yeah i give up trying to get miraidon to work (im also just too bad)
timber falcon
yeah i give up trying to get miraidon to work (im also just too bad)
bro its miraidon how is this possible
molten oasis
what? miradion is pretty good whats the issue with it?
timber falcon
just slap it on any team and itll still cook
gentle delta
its jsut what i see the most but i get it
Ive been on water and most of the people I know mad testing caly have settled on water
Miraidon is training wheels levels of good lol
molten oasis
ehhhh idk about that caly s is kinda just the slap on restricted rn, if there is one lol
you have to deal with rilla and indeedee also shutting off the terrain
i wish
gentle delta
I have the wildest thing im testing against Caly-S and its been fun af
Snarl speed proto specs Walking Wake
molten oasis
i messed with wake as a groudon counter for a minute since therye all tera fire rn
mighty stump
Did you know Specs Overheat from Miraidon OHKOs Groudon
gentle delta
After it was mid in F
little plank
Shush dont spoil my next video
Lmao it's brilliant
molten oasis
what
gentle delta
Did you know Specs Overheat from Miraidon OHKOs Groudon
Excuse me
mighty stump
Yeah cause Sun boosts the Overheat
molten oasis
miraidon moment lmao
mighty stump
So like
gentle delta
GUESS IM BRINGING MIRAIDON TO WORLDS BOYS
molten oasis
lol
mighty stump
If you really are desperste to remove Groudon with Miraidon
Overheat + Specs
I’m mentioning this in my blog lmao
little plank
Say hello to my lil friend overheat lmao
mighty stump
Just, don’t miss
autumn vault
You humans are using Miraidon?
autumn vault
Overheat specs in sun OHKO'ing Groudon is a small surprise
gentle delta
Im a turtle believer tbh
autumn vault
The turtle can be a monster in the right hands
mighty stump
TurtleTurtleTurtleTurtle
tough idol
Does anyone know if self Parting Shot triggers Contrary?
mighty stump
it do
gentle delta
One of my subs sent me a team asking if Id feature it, tr screens terapagos
tough idol
TY @mighty stump
gentle cragBOT
TY <@250386799363489808>
ictlegion has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
gentle delta
Does anyone know if self Parting Shot triggers Contrary?
Only if opponents parting shot
molten oasis
i have a double FO team with it rn
gentle delta
Oh nvm
mighty stump
Contrary is non-discriminatory yeah
gentle delta
Im dumb thinking defiant
mighty stump
Not like Defiant
gentle delta
Yeah caught it myself lma
mighty stump
Good ol Eerie Impulse Enam
molten oasis
gentle delta
Good ol Eerie Impulse Enam
Shame we never had a Reg D GC
molten oasis
messing with this
tough idol
Just thought about it after seeing it on stream for a pivot.