competitive_discussion

[bold geode]

Groudon just that guy

[polar canyon]

Koraidon + wake sounds funny

[molten oasis]

oh tofu did you see any zacians without gouging fire?

[polar canyon]

What does groudon do rn?

[molten oasis]

strong ground damage and enables flutter

[bold geode]

Same as Koraidon, but doesn't immediately die to Mane

[polar canyon]

Nice

[timber falcon]

Can’t korai also kill mane?

[bold geode]

Also I FORGOT ABOUT WAKE

[molten oasis]

if it doesnt explode

[polar canyon]

I've been using wake for reg f lately

I like it a lot

[bold geode]

Eh
Groudon Bolt better

[timber falcon]

It’s speed is too awkward for me

[mighty stump]

Grimmsnarl stuff

[molten oasis]

that was it?

[mighty stump]

Yea

[timber falcon]

Wait drago in any of our games did u even use howl

[molten oasis]

ive just found gouging fire to be kinda mid

[molten oasis]

i didnt have gouging fire

[timber falcon]

Oh

[molten oasis]

i was running zac on japan shell balance

[polar canyon]

I'm just speed creeping lando i

[molten oasis]

like,

[timber falcon]

I hevent seen lando I lately

[molten oasis]

idk what it is i just DONT like gouging fire

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093776744

Finally-

[polar canyon]

in reg f?

[molten oasis]

g

i havent really seen lando i either

[timber falcon]

Tbh I think my palafin team has made “yeah it works” status. Ima move onto something else

[molten oasis]

well uh, dont run palafin in restricted lol

[polar canyon]

I wonder if lunala could work

Thoughts?

[molten oasis]

meteor beam tr things

[timber falcon]

Guess who

Time to regress to the beginning

[molten oasis]

dont

not in restricted

[polar canyon]

So dawn wings?

[molten oasis]

no just Lunala

im pretty sure lunala is picked over dawn wings

[timber falcon]

Don’t worry I can(T) do this

[molten oasis]

idk why it just is

[polar canyon]

For tr?

[molten oasis]

id assume so yes

[polar canyon]

Dawn wings is slower

[timber falcon]

I’ll try though

[molten oasis]

uh

[polar canyon]

Lunala has renamed multiscale

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/necrozma-dawnwings.gif

Pokémon No. 800: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Prism Armor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/113/109/157/127/77

Total

680

Base Species

Necrozma

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

Pokémon No. 792: Lunala

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Shadow Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

137/113/89/137/107/97

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[polar canyon]

But like 97 speed in trick room

[dapper crag]

Ability: Prism Armor

This Pokemon receives 3/4 damage from supereffective attacks.

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[molten oasis]

waht

why do people use lunala

[polar canyon]

97 base speed in trick room doesn't sound right

[molten oasis]

oh hwell

[polar canyon]

I think just because of multiscale

[molten oasis]

137 hp compared to 97

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093779854
Finally feel better

[molten oasis]

OH the ability is different

yea its that for sure then

[mighty stump]

Kinda what i'm expecting

[timber falcon]

Better stop playing whilst things are going good-

[polar canyon]

I think I'll look into meteor beam tr dawn wings

Wait

[timber falcon]

Kyogre where?

[molten oasis]

i hope we see zac on like

[polar canyon]

That would mean I need to get a 0 speed necrozma

[molten oasis]

not gouging fire

[mighty stump]

TornOgre is Kyogre

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[mighty stump]

Tornadus-Kyogre

[molten oasis]

im not a fan personally

[polar canyon]

I think it's normal to not be a fan

You also used to hate flutter mane because it's too strong right?

Same principle applies I'd say

[molten oasis]

i still hate flutter

[polar canyon]

Kyogre is very strong

[timber falcon]

Though, I’ve seen more farig Kyogre than torn

and it works rly well

[polar canyon]

That grassy glide immunity

[molten oasis]

probably preventing glide and tclap

[timber falcon]

And fake out to boot

[polar canyon]

Fake out as a bonus

[timber falcon]

Cost me a few games

[molten oasis]

hmm

[polar canyon]

Sunny day torn

Ez

[molten oasis]

i think zacian balance is good but id need to play ladder more

[timber falcon]

In the reg groudon and korai are released you’d use torn?

[solid frigate]

Right,Trick room is still my bane

[timber falcon]

Literally my team rn

[polar canyon]

Tailwind?

[timber falcon]

Yeah I don’t think before I type

[polar canyon]

I think I wanna try tr team with dawn wings and ursaluna blood moon

Double moon theme

Not on purpose

[timber falcon]

Aww

U should’ve added clefairy

[polar canyon]

I can

[timber falcon]

Yippee

[polar canyon]

Sounds nice for necrozma

[timber falcon]

And dark type+ fighting

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[timber falcon]

Btw anyone else seen expanding force caly yet?

[polar canyon]

Zacian boutta be scary

[timber falcon]

As always

[polar canyon]

Actually is zacian scary if I have blood moon

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093784182 kek

[timber falcon]

I mean it will deal hela damage

[timber falcon]

Bro the free swords dance was all I needed to see

Zacian is gonna be a pain for me

Drago what is ur zacian set?

[polar canyon]

ooooo scary motorcycle gecko

Cresselia on the moon team

Nah

[timber falcon]

🗣️

Aww

[polar canyon]

I want a second tr setter that's not weak to mane

[timber falcon]

It is though

I read wrong

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093786437-8b38u5ngyqgehttesq1enocjgzhmh7ypw

Mirror Match finally worked

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093786562-mvzb8czs014y0z0w3fn9g6mx7urlm78pw nice caly ice nerd

[timber falcon]

Yk I might focus on a restricted mon THEN smeargle after, sounds fun

[polar canyon]

Damn necrozma doesn't get moonblast

[molten oasis]

Athena (Zacian-Crowned) @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 156 HP / 124 Atk / 60 Def / 4 SpD / 164 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Play Rough
• Behemoth Blade
• Swords Dance
• Protect

[timber falcon]

And it’s gonna be the coolest one

[timber falcon]

Didn’t know zacian got bulk evs

[molten oasis]

we live precipice blades

[polar canyon]

Max atk?

[molten oasis]

from not boosted item

[timber falcon]

So that’s why flare blitz neve worked

[molten oasis]

yes max adamant

and i hit 207

speed, which is plenty

[timber falcon]

Which legends are overshadowed?

That I can use

[molten oasis]

just use the good ones

you need to let a meta settle before running anyting niche

[timber falcon]

Hmm yeah u got a point. Can’t counter meta if there’s no meta

[polar canyon]

There's no niche when no one knows what's really not niche

[timber falcon]

I’m gonna use lugia

[molten oasis]

no

[timber falcon]

He’s

[molten oasis]

just, dont

[timber falcon]

Very cool

[molten oasis]

lugia sucks

[timber falcon]

I mean it’s very bulky

[molten oasis]

thats it

it doenst do anything else worth of value

[dapper crag]

Lugia's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Body Slam, Brave Bird, Bulldoze, Dive, Double-Edge, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Punishment, Return, Rock Smash, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Sky Drop, Steel Wing, Strength, Take Down, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aeroblast, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Blizzard, Brine, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dream Eater, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Extrasensory, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Gust, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psycho Boost, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twister, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Confide, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Flash, Hail, Helping Hand, Imprison, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Mimic, Mist, Nightmare, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Recover, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Telekinesis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Whirlwind, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lugia.

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[molten oasis]

run something meta

just for now

[timber falcon]

Ok so lugia later

[molten oasis]

the meta needs to settle first

[timber falcon]

Meh I’ll do groudon, he’s my next fav legend

[solid frigate]

my lord someone run full violet Paradox Team with Miraidona nd its wooping my ass

[timber falcon]

Yeah I see this a lot

Amoongus clears for me, paired with Incin and Rilla

[molten oasis]

mirai bundle is no match for double fo and zacian

[timber falcon]

Who’s fo

[molten oasis]

fake out

incin and rilla

[polar canyon]

Not sure what to do with this thing

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[timber falcon]

Moongeist?

[molten oasis]

moongeist

[polar canyon]

I'm thinking about no protect

[timber falcon]

Hmm does it need tr?

Protect prolly will be very helpful

[mighty stump]

Just run Lunala tho

[molten oasis]

better ability

[timber falcon]

Dawn wings is cooler

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/lilly-lusamine-lunala-ultra-space-alola-gif-7436031

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093792879

I feel stressed out

[polar canyon]

Does multiscale justify using it?

People don't use multiscale dragonite

Inner focus is really good but still

[mighty stump]

Lunala doesn;'t worry about FO

[timber falcon]

Multiscle is nice for setting

[polar canyon]

True

Guess I won't do trick room

I don't want a 97 speed trick room mon

Silly

[timber falcon]

Hold up- does Gouging groudon sound good?

It sounds good in my head but that normally fails me

[polar canyon]

I never noticed how lunala has so many support moves

[dapper crag]

Lunala's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Phantom Force, Poltergeist, Psycho Cut, Return, Shadow Claw, Sky Attack, Sky Drop

Special Moves

Air Slash, Blizzard, Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Meteor Beam, Moonblast, Moongeist Beam, Night Daze, Night Shade, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Cosmic Power, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Hypnosis, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Moonlight, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spite, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lunala.

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[timber falcon]

Tw? That’s news to me

[polar canyon]

Wide guard wisp tailwind

It has teleport

[molten oasis]

on paper yes

idk about in execution

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/necrozma-duskmane.png

[polar canyon]

Oh it's not updated

Wait I did it wrong

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd-shiny/necrozma-duskmane.png

[timber falcon]

Well we’re gonna need an executor

So I’ll try it

[polar canyon]

Exeggutor?

[timber falcon]

I might use him now-

[polar canyon]

You could run clear amulet so your gouging is not purely support and no offense when the opponent has incineroar

[timber falcon]

I mean wouldn’t CA go to groudon?

Since its a howl Gouging

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah

Good luck with the accuracy too

[timber falcon]

There’s a fake out problem now

The duo lose to dragos incin/zacian

[polar canyon]

Thinking about pokemon while playing another game

Brain gets silly

[timber falcon]

I think I should take a break tbh

I’ve been playing non stop showdown

Not even the actual game smth

[polar canyon]

Sploton dlc

[timber falcon]

Splatoon?

[polar canyon]

Spoon

The new dlc is addicting

[timber falcon]

See now I’m genuinely confused

And I’m confused as to why this confusion is confusing

[mighty stump]

Incineroar totally not carrying rn

[timber falcon]

[polar canyon]

I like how you chose the legendary and immediately chose incineroar after in all of them

[mighty stump]

obv

[timber falcon]

“Damn I need a fore core” ❌ “Ok now Incin” ✅

[solid frigate]

[celest sierra]

So from my understanding, no mythicals in the next regulation, right?

Just 1 restricted legend

[bold geode]

Are the EVs on the Terapagos team general or did you calc specifically

[bold geode]

No mythics

[celest sierra]

Gotcha

[mighty stump]

Calc'd

[molten oasis]

i beat a dude like 120 elo ahead of me

pog

[bold geode]

Mind telling me what fer?

[mighty stump]

Aren't you more a Rowley

[molten oasis]

well it was more like 80

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093805140

[bold geode]

Fuck you

[mighty stump]

LOL

[molten oasis]

hes not wrong lmao

[mighty stump]

It's jsut the 252/36

[bold geode]

WOW

The biggest one I'm wondering about is the kitty

[molten oasis]

incin?

[bold geode]

No, Uni kitty
Who else

[molten oasis]

also, im liking shell balance more so far lol

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fighting Koraidon Helping Hand Collision Course vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 171-202 (84.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

Lol

[bold geode]

Yes Incineroar
Tofu what's the Incineroar for

[molten oasis]

double fo is so good

lmfao

[mighty stump]

? Incineroar has been the same one from my blogpost for a while

[bold geode]

Huh really?

[mighty stump]

its for timid EP

from Lando

last I checked

[molten oasis]

it lives that?

[bold geode]

The Sitrus one I got is for like Surging Strikes Ursh

[molten oasis]

thats insane

[mighty stump]

Or its like

something else

Ohhh

[molten oasis]

ive seen my incin (technically tofus) live surging strikes without sitrus

[mighty stump]

Timid Sandsear

[bold geode]

No way it lives that raw
Gotta be Sandsear

[molten oasis]

well it is tofus incin but its like, there old one at tbe very beginning of reg f

[bold geode]

Yeah that makes more sense
I think it just never lives Earth Power

[mighty stump]

You do if you run AV

AV Incin is tuff

[molten oasis]

i also just fought a heatran

that was weird

[bold geode]

I'll switch to yours then
I had your one that lived a Surging Strikes from Urshifu
But like
I'm running Sun, am I REALLY worried about that

[mighty stump]

Ok I basically have all the mons I want to test

[molten oasis]

groudon sun?

woah

thats a lot of mons

[bold geode]

But I like Sitrus
You think Amoongus gonna stick around still with Miraidon?

[molten oasis]

yes

[solid frigate]

yep that sums up

[mighty stump]

Theres still a few more out there teams but these are the main ones I expect

[bold geode]

Like how much you think Electric Terrain dampens Amoongus?

[mighty stump]

Not much

[molten oasis]

it can still rage powder

[solid frigate]

i might test a Koraidon Team and Lunala Team

[molten oasis]

and be annoyingly bulky

it eats electro drift

[bold geode]

Eh I can run Goggles I guess then
I don't think Sitrus has yet procced for me

[molten oasis]

im a tad worried about my mu into caly s stuff atm

with zac shell balance, as my incin has wisp not knock off and pao cant sucker in psychic terrain

[mighty stump]

run Spinner

[molten oasis]

i have spinner

[mighty stump]

then run Snarl Incin

[molten oasis]

and rilla lol, so im probably fine

[solid frigate]

why do they make this form exists,like its gonna eat up my sanity

[molten oasis]

i havent fought one im just a bit worried about the mu as a whole

[bold geode]

So Tofu, how's Kyogre stacking

[molten oasis]

with this team

[bold geode]

What's your actual feelings on Kyogre rn

[mighty stump]

Kyogre is

Ok

[solid frigate]

i fought like,3 teams of that and i am in pain

[bold geode]

But is it as big as it was

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/922c05e1e6ea0890

[mighty stump]

Too soon to say lol

[molten oasis]

here paste

[bold geode]

Ok so far I've played a few games against it and it feels underwhelming

Then again, sun lol

[molten oasis]

literally shell balance lol

with zacian

instead of lando/dengo

[bold geode]

Keep Lando fucker

[molten oasis]

no lando is cringe

[bold geode]

Honestly, I fucking love Grass spam rn and Hearthflame

[solid frigate]

meanwhile Me:Calyrex+Indeedee is pain in the ASS

[molten oasis]

what else do i even slot in

my 6th is pao

[bold geode]

Don't want Pao?

Ez
Hearthflame

[molten oasis]

pao won me some games lol

[bold geode]

Oh is Drago making a change

[molten oasis]

again its shell with zac instead of lando

yes, i am learning pao works on balance

[mighty stump]

I'm still never gonna get over SD Pao

[molten oasis]

you want SD pao?

[mighty stump]

When ruin mons first came

I ran SD Pao with Scream Tail

Shit cooked

[molten oasis]

ah

[mighty stump]

It would run through the 4 mons so easily

[molten oasis]

did you run it with sash?

[mighty stump]

Yea

[molten oasis]

makes sense, sounds fun

i like sash rn

[bold geode]

I have learned that
But still fucking hate it

[molten oasis]

i dont really like it either but like

its not lando

and it helps with shifu and zacian at times

getting them kills

[mighty stump]

Wake up kids

New core name just dropped

[bold geode]

I just love Hearthflame
So good, it identifies as that bitch

[molten oasis]

lol

id like to maybe rework the gapdos team down the line but i need the meta to settle first

[mighty stump]

Damn

Tough crowd

[bold geode]

I chortled

[molten oasis]

we were not interested in the caly s things

[solid frigate]

The name is just fitting for the Calyrex

Because its the stupid bit-

[molten oasis]

heatran kinda mid tbf

[mighty stump]

run Wispran

[molten oasis]

at least atm, maybe it gets a resurgence

[bold geode]

Wait why TF is Heatran there

[mighty stump]

Iron Defense/Body Press/Wisp/Magma Storm

[mighty stump]

to add H

[bold geode]

Ew

[molten oasis]

oh

oh i see lmao

[mighty stump]

Unless you want Hitmontop

[molten oasis]

caly shadow, heatran, indeedee, torn

[mighty stump]

Yea

Caly-S H I T

[molten oasis]

lol

[bold geode]

Now get to top of ladder with Caly-Shit Tofu

[molten oasis]

imagine that becomes a core

[mighty stump]

Damn

Shitcore

[molten oasis]

lmao

[chrome knot]

ok kill it

[bold geode]

What YouTube playlist is that

[mighty stump]

It's just a recording of you going about your daily life

[bold geode]

I saw that coming from a mile away lmao

[mighty stump]

Lmaooo

[molten oasis]

im mostly hoping that the team i got doesnt need too much work, if i can get to NAIC

[mighty stump]

can't kill SHIT

[bold geode]

Yeah it's just a YouTuber "Day in the Life" video

[molten oasis]

beyond excessive testing down the line

[bold geode]

Or as they say
Get SHIT on

[molten oasis]

and also hoping zacian doesnt become ass lol

[mighty stump]

Ok

time for me to head to bed

[molten oasis]

ok, gn tofu

[solid frigate]

i don't think it would be

[bold geode]

Goodnight
Run Caly Shit in your dreams again

[bold geode]

What you got for G

[chrome knot]

a retirement plan

[molten oasis]

we'll see

im mostly hoping that gouging fire zacian doesnt become standard

[chrome knot]

jus gonna do what jm & olivia do lol

[molten oasis]

for zac, im not a fan of it personally

[chrome knot]

is the more for serious answer

[bold geode]

Hilligant Groudon?!

[chrome knot]

no

[solid frigate]

I'm just exist try to crack 1200\

[bold geode]

Probably more TR hmmmmmm

[molten oasis]

imma try to crack 1300 rn

[bold geode]

Haven't fought Caly I yet though, I'm a bit worried

[solid frigate]

like my team is so linear that everyone predicts it like a book now

[chrome knot]

no…?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[chrome knot]

im playing gouging balance rn lmao

[bold geode]

Oh
Gouging Fire is like eh for me now
I got Incineroar pilled lmao

It still seems solid though rn

[molten oasis]

nvm i tried

lost to hearthflame in sun

[solid frigate]

F

[molten oasis]

and then ran into another sun team yippee

[solid frigate]

yep i need to revaluate the sun teams

[strong geode]

does anybody know if baton pass carries the effect of follow me to the next pokemon that takes its place? I couldn't find anything anywhere about it

[solid frigate]

if only carry stat changs and not status conditions

[bold geode]

The power

[strong geode]

oh ok

thanks!

[molten oasis]

i fucking hate sun teams

[bold geode]

Oooh then you'd hate me lmao

[solid frigate]

you glad i don't use those-

[bold geode]

Gotta change my Incin spread

[molten oasis]

I just lost to a fucking meowstic

[solid frigate]

wait what team is it

[bold geode]

Oh God, the low ELO lobotomy is already kicking in, isn't it

[solid frigate]

Not for me

[molten oasis]

Ugh this sucks

[willow vault]

What’s up

How’s the new reg on showdown going for everyone?

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093839115

[solid frigate]

Tofu got #1

[polar canyon]

Imagine reg g in showdown is an April fools joke and they remove it tomorrow

[acoustic harness]

Wait is reg g one or two restricted

[willow vault]

April fools or real?

[solid frigate]

Real.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093841953

Finally 1100+

[willow vault]

Damn he still number 2, alright fair enough. Just figured you were meming. Damn Tofu

[acoustic harness]

https://pokepast.es/81d4ee6ec7c5ff75

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093844403

I finally have my momentum

[next stump]

lilligant without spore is missing a lot of its potency

also do you mean to have power herb and not white herb?

[acoustic harness]

Oh I just realized I have victory dance over sleep powder good looks

[acoustic harness]

And yeah

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2093850082-ca3pz99plf2gs5u4kzfp5brw23jjo3cpw

[solid frigate]

why Terapagos with Piano sprite is just so funny

[timber falcon]

bruh

[willow vault]

Tofu is the goat why should I have expected any different

[atomic mural]

i think its a reference to bowser singing with a piano

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093851370

Bruh that dude is salt

[solid frigate]

and Terapagos's Theme is literally Piano hell

one more game to crack top 500

[stark storm]

Have yall seen the flutter mane picture on showdown

Its the most accurate representation of them imo

[atomic mural]

I feel like clefairy would do well with terapagos

[stark storm]

I feel like koraidon is gonna dominate reg g

[willow vault]

Welp I just got utterly dominated by Calyrex-ice, need to reconsider my options carefully next time

[stark storm]

Koraidon sun boosting ogerpon-h and giving flutter mane the opportunity to run specs and scarf at the same time

[willow vault]

I mean Groudon does the same thing chief

[molten oasis]

I’m not really enjoying grinding ladder

[stark storm]

Yes but koraidon has better coverage and isnt weak to water

[molten oasis]

People are weird

[willow vault]

And Groudon isn’t weak to flutter?

[molten oasis]

A caly ice outspeed my incin and my raging bolt

[stark storm]

Tera fairy

[willow vault]

You’ve burnt your Tera

[stark storm]

You could also tera steel iron head

[willow vault]

Also Groudon can also Tera out of its weaknesses what’s this point?

[stark storm]

It couldnt deal with flutter on its own tho

[willow vault]

Heat crash

[stark storm]

1.3 orichalcum × 1.5 tera steel

[solid frigate]

120 BP because Groudon is a Fat person

sorry groudon fans

[stark storm]

Only time will tell

[willow vault]

No offence taken

[stark storm]

Its definitely a debate for who's the better sun setter

[solid frigate]

i mean one of the heaviest Pokemon

[willow vault]

I know

[polar canyon]

Does flare blitz koraidon kill mane?

Sun + orichalcum 120 bp move

[solid frigate]

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. Lvl 50 124 HP / 140 Def Flutter Mane in Sun: 681-802 (466.4 - 549.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

wait wrong thing

[polar canyon]

Level 100

[solid frigate]

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 124 HP / 140 Def Flutter Mane in Sun: 181-214 (123.9 - 146.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

nvm still OHKO

[stark storm]

Maybe but i dont think itd outspeed scarf dazzle or mb

Itd have to survive

[polar canyon]

It so doesn't survive without tera

Actually koraidon could use scarf

Does mane use scarf now?

[solid frigate]

yeah

[solid frigate]

Booster or Specs

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah booster speed

[stark storm]

Would it outspeed scarf mane or boosted mane

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1007: Koraidon

Types

Fighting/Dragon

Abilities

Orichalcum Pulse

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/135/115/85/100/135

Total

670

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[stark storm]

Or sun speed specs

[polar canyon]

At least it's a speed tie

[stark storm]

Fun

[willow vault]

3 points of top 500 😭

[solid frigate]

you use choice specs and booster speed

[earnest igloo]

i'm getting into competitive-ish pokemon and i am building my first ever team. could this be decent? thank you if you check it out ^^
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/plan/#sv+heatran+milotic+scizor+great-tusk+iron-hands+dragapult

[bold geode]

If you're doing Sun, might as well go Specs and go Speed boost lol
Unless you want extra oomph

[polar canyon]

It would be cool to use protosynthesis speed koraidon

[acoustic harness]

Is Kyurem White - Chi Yu cooking a little too hard?

[stark storm]

I think koraidon, oger-h, flutter, kg, landorous-i, and raging bolt would be a good team

[willow vault]

Substitute calyrex shadow is evil in closed team sheet

[bold geode]

Might be burnt? Idk

[solid frigate]

Blue Flame+Beads of Ruin-

is it blue flame or fusion flare

[polar canyon]

I wish orichalcum pulse didn't only work for attack

[acoustic harness]

I have my Necrozma-Indeedee team and a Zacian-Chien Pao team

[stark storm]

Does it work only for koraidons attack or everyones attack

[molten oasis]

HO my favorite

[polar canyon]

Koraidon attack

[stark storm]

Alr

[solid frigate]

Boost only Koraidon

[polar canyon]

It's like protosynthesis but only attack

• drought

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

for Miraidon is Electric Terrain+SpA

[solid frigate]

Me rn

[stark storm]

It allows you to invest in other stats tho

Bulkier set

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093851370

@molten oasis the amount of Salt on this guy-

[acoustic harness]

Would any paradox even be worth bringing with Miraidon

[solid frigate]

Bundle

[stark storm]

Possibly hands

[acoustic harness]

I doubt it brings something like Valiant use. I could only see Bundle

[solid frigate]

Iron Leaves?

[acoustic harness]

One U turn and you disappear off the planet forever

[stark storm]

Isnt rillaboom the only thing consistantly running u turn

[acoustic harness]

I’ve seen it on Incin Urshi

[solid frigate]

yep

[stark storm]

I didnt even know incin got u turn lmao

[solid frigate]

it got u-turn in Gen 7

[acoustic harness]

It’s niche with assault vest sets instead of parting shot

[polar canyon]

I was expecting much worse from how you described it

[polar canyon]

^

[acoustic harness]

https://pokepast.es/8bf4f01369ea8808

this feels dirty

Wait I need to change my Tera types lol

[stark storm]

Thats a lot of speed

[acoustic harness]

I don’t even know what Tera type I’d run with Zacian

Steel Fairy is so good on its own

[stark storm]

Steel behemoth blade possibly

[willow vault]

It ain’t pretty but top 500 is top 500 (I know it’s day 1 but let me have this) number 432

[stark storm]

But that opens weaknesses to fire

[acoustic harness]

My Tera is probably gonna be Ogerpon or Flutter most games anyways

https://pokepast.es/67138a3c0bdac646 im most excited about this team i love Dawn Wings

[stark storm]

True but an offensive option is never a bad thing if things go wrong

[stark storm]

What is dawn wings speed stat

[acoustic harness]

77

[stark storm]

Nice

[acoustic harness]

It’s pretty tanky with prism armor

[stark storm]

I bet

[solid frigate]

i am still stuck in the limbo of not in top 500

like the team i face is heavily against my MU

[rustic mountain]

no (jk grats)

[acoustic harness]

Only thing that sucks is it’s one legendary, Caly Ice goes insane with Necrozma

[stark storm]

https://pokepast.es/5a6f047e10c38f1c
I ran this lunala team in gen 8

[willow vault]

Damn, don’t feel bad I sold out to try out Groudon. Will be trying to build around Palkia just need a bit of knowledge (my first restricted format) so just learning about what’s good

[rustic mountain]

yea it does change the dynamic, good restricteds are still good restricteds tho

[willow vault]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

how is it selling out to utilize the best options available? dont have that mindset if ur trynna win a lot. otherwise yea jus play, experience is the best teacher

[solid frigate]

I am still using Terapagos and i constantly switched teams
https://pokepast.es/0d8aeb288526b2a6

[rustic mountain]

[willow vault]

You’re right, but at some point I will try Palkia for fun when the meta has settled more

[stark storm]

Ev spreads prolly dont make sense bc i just started in gen 8

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean use wat u want, depends wat u wanna get out of playing. palkia def gets better w/ dual restricteds tho

[willow vault]

Why only 4 evs on raging bolt, aren’t you wasting ev’s

[willow vault]

100% it does, that’s kinda why I was not sure about using it for single restricted

[rustic mountain]

i mean like, u can prolly get away w/ it. its jus gna make games more difficult tho

[stark storm]

This has been my team for reg f
https://pokepast.es/02e7e0c0798e0c0a

[bold geode]

Hello, Mr Tree

[rustic mountain]

yo

[bold geode]

Holy fuck it's a tortuga

[rustic mountain]

bibilically accurate tirtuoga

[solid frigate]

bolt does not have 4 EVs-

[bold geode]

Tirtouga the way God intended

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Tree
Wtf you running for G

[willow vault]

4 stats with evs invested into them

[rustic mountain]

idk man i dont have any full teams in the builder yet

[stark storm]

Sceptile with 4 speed EVs unburden outspeeds scarf mane

[mild wolf]

Thoughts on Skeledirge as a counter to Koraidon, Zacian, Caly-Ice in Reg G?

[rustic mountain]

oh wait yes i do

[acoustic harness]

Is Terapagos even good

[willow vault]

Cool, not sure how relevant that is but cool

[rustic mountain]

im jus gna do zacian balance w/ chien pao to start

[solid frigate]

i want to make it bulky and hit hard

[stark storm]

I like sceptile and tried to make a team with it

[solid frigate]

if you want to miserable,its kinda alright,not as powerful attackers like Calyrex Shadow or Zacian but its Bulky

[acoustic harness]

Yeah it seems so niche

[rustic mountain]

i think terapagos needs dual restricted, single feels weird w/ it. its also very early

[acoustic harness]

I’m trying to build around Miraidon idk what I want, seems like just paradox + rain

[rustic mountain]

bundle

[bold geode]

Drago is literally on the same thing rn

[willow vault]

52 evs and 56 evs in defence gives you the same statistical value so you could add 1 point of speed if you wanted

[solid frigate]

Me who ran Terapagos rn: I'm playing Bringer of Chaos Mode in Xenoblade 2

[molten oasis]

I was so rucking right about caly

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean its wat ive been waiting for haha

[mighty stump]

Did someone say Terapagos

[molten oasis]

Caly is so god damn annoying man

[bold geode]

Go to sleep fucker

[solid frigate]

yes.

[solid frigate]

Sleep Soy milk-

[willow vault]

It’s so annoying, I ran into a substitute Calyrex shadow in closed team sheet, I lost after turn 1

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

told ya,i hate this mf

[acoustic harness]

Mirai, Bundle, Oger, Torn, Lando, Incin? Something like that no

[rustic mountain]

they r based

[willow vault]

Congrats on hitting number 1 on ladder earlier, that’s crazy

[bold geode]

Oh yeah Tree, Tofu just hit rank 1 on ladder with Terapagos

[molten oasis]

I hate this

[solid frigate]

I swear i wish Crown Tundra does not exist

[molten oasis]

Fuck caly man, stupid horse

[stark storm]

I used to run scarf absol in gen 8 just to counter caly shadow

[mighty stump]

Thank

[rustic mountain]

lando mirai bundle incin seems cool, idk bout torn and oger tho

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to crephace

[molten oasis]

It’s gatekeeping me from 1300’s

[mild wolf]

Is there an item that allows a move to strike through a sub right to the HP?

[solid frigate]

Drago i can list loads of Reason of why i hate Calyrex

[mighty stump]

Sound moves

[molten oasis]

Every time I’m even close op there’s a god damn caly chi Yu indeedee

[mighty stump]

Incin fodder

[willow vault]

Damn you doing pretty good though, just under 1300 is very good rn

[acoustic harness]

Probably need torn for rain and tailwind, I could probably put Urshi instead of Oger

But I hate using Urshi

[mighty stump]

Try AV Incin

[molten oasis]

My incin doesn’t have knock off so not really

[rustic mountain]

idk u need to lean into rain so heavy is wat im saying

[molten oasis]

Av, hmm

[rustic mountain]

i think rain kinda sucks compared to sun

[mighty stump]

Just get rid of wisp and run Snarl too

Clearly it’s not giving you much value if your main MU sucks

[molten oasis]

It’s been nice into caly ice and that kinda it

[rustic mountain]

caly s is gna b mad common

[mighty stump]

Just figure out a different way into Caly-I

[solid frigate]

Reason we hate Calyrex:

Stupid Damage Output
Busted Ability
Mid Battle Theme
Ruins sanity
Urshifu feels tame compare to Calyrex
Indeedee+S-Calyrex is BS

[molten oasis]

Alr, I’m gonna do knock off tho

[mighty stump]

Sounds like excuses

[rustic mountain]

it has a fair amount of checks

[acoustic harness]

I’m afraid to take Pao-Zacian onto ladder I feel like this is gonna ruin people’s days

[molten oasis]

I’m mad I’m losing to it my mu just feels bad

[rustic mountain]

incin being the best

[mighty stump]

I mean it’s not really fixing the issue if you’re not hitting Caly-S though

[molten oasis]

I already am

[willow vault]

I mean rilla really helps the matchup

[molten oasis]

I’m hitting caly, when ir doesn’t wipe my fucking team

[solid frigate]

here we go time to go into top 500

[mild wolf]

What counters Indee +S-Caly?

[mighty stump]

…Indeedee has redirecfion?

[solid frigate]

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL THE SAME TEAM.

[bold geode]

You think Snarl better than Knock Off now?

[molten oasis]

Right

[rustic mountain]

depending on the team, yea

[mighty stump]

Knock Off is only relevant for your team if you have Amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

snarl has a lot more use cases now

[mighty stump]

Snarl is just overall better

[bold geode]

Huh?

[molten oasis]

caly hurts my head it’s so strong

[acoustic harness]

Scarf dark type

[molten oasis]

I’ll try snarl

[rustic mountain]

i agree

[mighty stump]

Knock Off Goggles

[willow vault]

It’s also really good into Miraidon

[mighty stump]

So Amoonguss can actually Spore

[bold geode]

And Knock Off berries and shit
But ok I try Snarl

[mighty stump]

Idgaf about berries lol

[molten oasis]

Snarl with av?

[acoustic harness]

I feel like Pao is pretty good into Caly-S

[rustic mountain]

knock off isnt getting as much value as u think in the current format i think, ud prefer damage mitigation whether thru snarl or parting shot pivot

[acoustic harness]

Sword of ruin sucker punch it disappears

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/684a971ef5bbac4f
We cook

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Eh idk how I’d even get av on with rilla already having it

[mighty stump]

• Indeedee
• Psychic Terrain

[next stump]

that’s why wisp caly-s is so sick too

[solid frigate]

fake tears Whimsicott

[molten oasis]

Alr, I’ll go test snarl

[bold geode]

Oh fuck the change of names

[acoustic harness]

Oh indeedee makes that a problem

[solid frigate]

I SHOULD NOT ABANDON WHIMSICOTT

[mighty stump]

Im running Snarl/Wisp Caly-I with Tera Dark

[acoustic harness]

Then maybe raging bolt snarl?

[mighty stump]

I meant Caly-S

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

Make it its own best counter

Lol

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2093877620-3edo3v2pgdwmve3p5npa0a2mcvnvfempw this match was all skill

[willow vault]

I was gonna say if it was caly-I I was gonna be so confused

[acoustic harness]

There’s so many cool fusion legendaries and the broken one is the horse with the onion on its head

[mild wolf]

Oof Dark tera Caly

[craggy dagger]

change of names?

[acoustic harness]

I’m using Dawn Necrozma and it’s just like damn I’m playing worse Calyrex

But he’s cooler so idc

[mighty stump]

Caly-S sucks into any dark type in general lol

[acoustic harness]

Scarf Wicked Blow exists

[mighty stump]

He’s not that bad

[acoustic harness]

Oh no Caly can get fairy coverage with Tera blast

[solid frigate]

should i give a Berry for Terapagos or give it Lefties

[craggy dagger]

lefties would prolly be better on pagos

[mighty stump]

Imagine using lefties

[solid frigate]

i mean

do i have any options

[craggy dagger]

specs?

[mighty stump]

Power Herb

😎

[solid frigate]

i literally used that set and people said no

[craggy dagger]

trust tofu xD

[mighty stump]

Did people hit rank 1

[willow vault]

I’ve just realised I had no dark type on my team, that’s why I kept struggling. I feel so dumb rn.

[craggy dagger]

and power herb seems like something that would be good on pagos

[solid frigate]

heck ask drago why he said no to my set

[mighty stump]

🤷‍♂️

[solid frigate]

Terapagos-Terastal @ Power Herb
Ability: Tera Shift
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 156 HP / 68 Def / 252 SpA / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Calm Mind
• Protect
• Meteor Beam

i might ran Gleam for Korai/Mirai shenanigins

[willow vault]

I mean it wasn’t the only reason but it would have helped

[mighty stump]

I literally never clicked Gleam

[craggy dagger]

oh is starstorm just a move :0
i thought it was like iron head into a behemoth move

[mighty stump]

Does different things depending if you Tera or not

[stark storm]

https://pokepast.es/8ecb1368cb773e4f
Feedback?

[craggy dagger]

ah that's cool

[bold geode]

I'm coming for ya 🫵👁️👁️

[solid frigate]

i saw you in top 500

[bold geode]

Yeah
My first time, fuckin wild

[willow vault]

Did you manage to make it?

[mighty stump]

Tera Fire on Koraidon is appropriate, Scarf seems excessive without a pivot move which I think it gets, Clear Amulet is just better

[willow vault]

Mine too, heck yeah

[mighty stump]

Dunno why you have Extrasensory on Tornadus

[solid frigate]

nope,get walled by calyrexes

[willow vault]

Oh damn

[stark storm]

I agree yeah

[stark storm]

Didnt know what else, just kinda coverage + accuracy

[solid frigate]

if i saw another calyrex team i'm just gonna-

[mighty stump]

You don’t need Iron Head

[craggy dagger]

top 500 :0

[stark storm]

For koraidon?

[solid frigate]

Kyurem white,ok thats reasonable

[bold geode]

I've seen people talk about AV Koraidon

[willow vault]

I think that means take a break then come back to grinding when you aren’t tilted

[mighty stump]

You mean Jeudy

[bold geode]

Others too

[willow vault]

Congrats

[stark storm]

That might actually be good

[mighty stump]

Im meh about it

AV Miraidon sounds better but I think some form of CM setup is way stronger

and AV koraidon gets cycled by Incin

Not a fan

[craggy dagger]

no no not me-
top 500 on showdown :0
i was about to congratulate ppl-

[rustic mountain]

i do agree w/ his sentiment they are obviously gna get bulkier as the format develops but thats tru for any format tbf

[willow vault]

?

[rustic mountain]

av idt will b common on either

[craggy dagger]

i havent even touched reg G yet

[rustic mountain]

same

[craggy dagger]

i have a team but it seems a bit clunky

[willow vault]

Oh, were you congratulating others

[rustic mountain]

i jus havent had time

its been like not even a day

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093885804-st3klpbximkxb6ihl72689vctfpw7afpw

i win but i hate my life

[craggy dagger]

yes yes

[mighty stump]

April is my month so we ball

[bold geode]

Also Tofu I'm running the Bolt set you hate

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/2e04ce4cf9542c53
i know my EVs are a bit scuffed

[rustic mountain]

[willow vault]

Oh. Thanks it feels good knowing I will wake up tmr and I won’t be top 500 in either of bo3 or bo1 anymore.

[stark storm]

Do you know of an ev spread for AV koraidon

[bold geode]

How

[rustic mountain]

early ladder shit

[bold geode]

I'm not touching Koraidon with a 39.5 foot pole

[rustic mountain]

gta keep up w/ the ranks

[willow vault]

I’m aware that’s the only reason I’m top 500 rn

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Imo Groudon just better

[willow vault]

Gotta be consistent

[rustic mountain]

yea facts

[willow vault]

I wholeheartedly agree

[rustic mountain]

it is

[mighty stump]

Birthday month

[rustic mountain]

koraidon is good tho

[bold geode]

Oh
When

[mighty stump]

I was born April 8 at 8:08:08 AM

[willow vault]

So why was January not my month 😭

[bold geode]

Ok a week to remember Tofu's birthday lol

[rustic mountain]

mission impossible

[mighty stump]

🤷

[bold geode]

Wait
July is when I started growing
Wtf

[rustic mountain]

?

[molten oasis]

Body press slowbro

[willow vault]

It’s because I was ill all month, I totally wasn’t bad at that point (copium)

[molten oasis]

I’m in low elo hell yay

[solid frigate]

at least feburary announced Legends ZA so i ain't mad

[mighty stump]

I think Dondozo would be good again

Lmao

[solid frigate]

i fight this team before

[rustic mountain]

oh god

the dozo cycle repeats

[willow vault]

What elo are you stuck in?

[willow vault]

Sounds good

[rustic mountain]

dont run dozo

[molten oasis]

Idk

[rustic mountain]

ion wanna play that shit

[bold geode]

Yeah prio spam and Dondozo gonna be about first regional bet

[molten oasis]

Bo1 sucks

[rustic mountain]

nah

[willow vault]

I prefer bo3

[solid frigate]

i'm stuck rn AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[bold geode]

People never learn to remember it

[rustic mountain]

relax

its either ur play or ur team

[willow vault]

Water break sounds good rn for you

[rustic mountain]

gta figure out which

[solid frigate]

i get walled by Calyrex

[willow vault]

So team issue

[solid frigate]

i already had that 10 minutes ago

[solid frigate]

technically Both cuz i made bad plays before

[rustic mountain]

well then dont?

[willow vault]

Take another clear your head, your proabably playing worse because of tilt

[willow vault]

Don’t you have Incineroar, what can calyrex do to it. You can force out a Tera with the knock off

[rustic mountain]

prolly not clearing indeedee fast enough b4 caly snowballs

[solid frigate]

they don't,they read me

[rustic mountain]

dont over read

make them show u they respect obvious plays

[solid frigate]

The Meteor Beam Misses,FU-

[willow vault]

Then play safer, use the knock off. Trying to play to complex will only lead you down a rabbit hole. Until they respect the obvious play, obvious is ok.

[molten oasis]

Thanks pao

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Thanks for missing a crucial icicle crash

[rustic mountain]

np

[solid frigate]

i swear Me and Drago are rn just need to deal with Low Elo BS

[willow vault]

It seems like you keep making the same mistakes and keep overthinking your plays. I’m not sure if it’s all low elo bs

[solid frigate]

i did win normally and its the MU is worse convinently

[molten oasis]

Snarl really fucking helps against caly

REALLY helps

[rustic mountain]

[willow vault]

Yessir, raging bolt av is my goat rn

[molten oasis]

I hate this game

[willow vault]

That was fast

[bold geode]

Wait you're losing against Caly S Psyspam?
How fucking awful is this fucking horse

[willow vault]

I mean it’s pretty good

[solid frigate]

How is that horse not Nerfed-

[molten oasis]

An hour ago I was in 1277 with 65% gxe

[bold geode]

Yeah but Drago got Zacian which resists E Force
Incin with Snarl
And Rillaboom

[molten oasis]

Now I’m in 1117 with 55%

[bold geode]

That's a three man core against Psyspam

[rustic mountain]

gf nerfing caly ice who wasnt better:
gf nerfing caly s who is better and won worlds:

[solid frigate]

Like Seriously,make him worse idc i won't use it anyway

[bold geode]

GF buffing Incineroar in Gen 8

[willow vault]

I mean I was fuming against Miraidon earlier, I looked at my play and fixed some issues and it started to go better. You just gotta play to your strengths rather than let them dictate the game

[rustic mountain]

oh im def gna use it

[rustic mountain]

and gen 9

[willow vault]

Damn, that was really high up

[rustic mountain]

i think yall gta either adjust ur play or take a step back. seems like ur rage playing at this point

happens to us all, jus like take a legit break tho

[willow vault]

I went and played terraria for a bit, really does help

[solid frigate]

I'm gonna just play Tears of the Kingdom

[rustic mountain]

ive played the same team and been both dogshit and amazing w/ it in like a short span. sometimes ppl overlook their mood/frame of mind cuz they feel they gta play and u really dont. especially wen u get mad frustated

[willow vault]

Cool have fun

[molten oasis]

Screens caly a with FUCKING DRAININY KISS

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[willow vault]

It’s very versatile

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Fuck this god damn chien pao

ZCian is bad apparently

[rustic mountain]

i refuse to believe that

[molten oasis]

I can’t beat anyone with it without playing o ur or my fucking mind

[willow vault]

From what I’ve seen it’s been pretty good

[bold geode]

YOU ALSO HAVE CHIEN PAO
How are you losing

[molten oasis]

Cuz everyone “dur astral barrage go brrrr”

[rustic mountain]

yea its not gna b zacian of the past but its a really good mon

[bold geode]

I mean it's early ladder
More of the stronger people prolly

[willow vault]

I know but I think it’s in a better place know

[molten oasis]

Everyone runs it with fucking indeedee monke

Pao is useless

[rustic mountain]

why?

[bold geode]

Hmmm
I wonder why

[molten oasis]

Instead of helping it plays protect simulator and die s

[willow vault]

Why I think Zacian is in a better spot now?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

like after no dmax and the nerf

[bold geode]

Typing ain't bad though

[willow vault]

I meant for my own mental wellbeing, I saw what people had to play against, I’m good chief.

[rustic mountain]

aint bad? its top tier typing

[molten oasis]

What’s the point of trying shell balance when it just loses to HO

Ugh,

[next stump]

zacian definitely like A or A- kinda mon right now, maybe better if people can figure out the comp

[rustic mountain]

i think a is fair

[next stump]

it’s tough losing the +1 on switch out

[willow vault]

Agreed

[solid frigate]

i swear gen 10 needs to nerf Calyrex to the plup

[rustic mountain]

but thats my initial thoughts it does seem wonkier to use now

[molten oasis]

Let’s run caly s, can’t win without it or caly i or miraidon

[bold geode]

Oh Tree, I've also seen Gouging Zacian

[willow vault]

Again please take a break

[solid frigate]

i am.

[rustic mountain]

leading it most times seems not great, ig sd can be nice tho if u go that route

[molten oasis]

Nah man swords dance just sucks as well thanks to incin switching every 2 seconds

[bold geode]

I've seen Gouging Zacian Tree

[rustic mountain]

how was that

[willow vault]

Again I would suggest a break but your likely gonna ignore me

[rustic mountain]

well its about how u position it

[bold geode]

Haven't used it
But on paper, it sounds good

[rustic mountain]

yea it does, i think some1 mentioned it here yday

either that or i saw it on twitter

i think sub zacian w/ howl is cool

[bold geode]

Sounds like a way to get around the nerf to me

[rustic mountain]

yea def 1 way to

[solid frigate]

anyways time to grind shrines in TOTK cuz i swear i hope its better than losing to Calyrex Multiple times

[rustic mountain]

have fun

[bold geode]

I've honestly thought about losing the Crowned boost to run CA for SD

Then again, it probably loses Intrepid Sword then

[rustic mountain]

dont use base zacian

crowned def is better

[willow vault]

Also loses the busted type combo

[craggy dagger]

which caly-

[rustic mountain]

caly s

[willow vault]

I think it was both, but mostly caly-s

[craggy dagger]

ewwwww
Caly S

[willow vault]

Fair reaction

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/calyrex-ice.png

[craggy dagger]

look at how cute it is-

uhhhh
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2093903168

why do people keep on FFing-

[knotty mirage]

Really wish i can use rein of unity multiple times

[craggy dagger]

they see WP sneak ice rider and FF

[solid frigate]

he ain't cute. he is a MENACE.

[craggy dagger]

its cuter than this

[willow vault]

I think calyrex looks goofy

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/calyrex-shadow.png

[lethal zinc]

horse moment

[willow vault]

Lapras moment

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/calyrex.png

[craggy dagger]

wtf is this-

[lethal zinc]

pangoro moment

[willow vault]

Well played… well played

[lethal zinc]

this is why i'm the owner

[willow vault]

Dewpiderman

[solid frigate]

hoi owner

[willow vault]

I did not know that, hello owner.

[lethal zinc]

good day competitive quarantine

[willow vault]

Why are we quarantined? Nvm I know why

[polar canyon]

Found a reason to use max attack ivs on a torkoal without physical attacks

[solid frigate]

[willow vault]

What?

[polar canyon]

Ever seen torkoal + jumpluff

[willow vault]

Yes

[polar canyon]

If you get in a situation where torkoal is not out and jumpluff is, without sun

You can get the torkoal in, to get sun up

[willow vault]

And why can’t you do that without the attack ivs?

[polar canyon]

What's that move called again

That lowers attack and heals

Power sap

[willow vault]

Strength sap

[polar canyon]

Switch torkoal out on the same turn with the eject pack with strength sap

That actually just came in handy for me

[willow vault]

It still switches without the attack ivs

[polar canyon]

Without the 31 attack but it made me realize I should do that

The healing also was important

Both opponents wouldn't heal as much because they were already low attack

And jumpluff would have died

So it's very niche and situational but having the 31 attack can be useful is what I learned from all that

[willow vault]

I dont know enough about sun teams, I’ll let you cook

[polar canyon]

https://pokepast.es/d2b22f64a8281cb5 this is the team

Reg f still

The thing just happened on cart

Not showdown

In the end the jumpluff had just enough to live an air slash

While I got sun up and heatran back in at the same time

I swapped rage powder for encore

[solid frigate]

my god it feels MUCH MORE RELAXING PLAYING TOTK

[molten oasis]

I got my act together

[solid frigate]

finally nice

[tulip peak]

Oof just looked at the new regulation added pokemons

[molten oasis]

Now I’m taking a break lol

[tulip peak]

pls tell me its an april fools joke

[solid frigate]

i'm playing totk for break

[molten oasis]

Had to beat a scarf kyogre

A nasty plot caly s

With screens

A chi yu flutter team

[tulip peak]

why did they decide it was a good idea to allow all these mons man 😦

[molten oasis]

And tornshifu

But we pull through with the power of not being a bitch (and playing good)

Ok, imma push to 1400 tomorrow

I need to keep control of my mental, it’s my main weaknesses

And trust my gut

[mighty stump]

Man

This was a wild time

[lethal zinc]

it was a simpler time

[ancient crow]

bro

can't believe it, my wife left me cause I spend too much time learning regulation F, only for the regulation G come out a few weeks later

[solid frigate]

F

[molten oasis]

Alright

So rn, I think zacian is not s tier