I’d run some more speed on that bolt if you’re going max sp.atk
#competitive_discussion
ember linden
autumn vault
I did but i felt it had too much bulk for my liking, i adjusted it because of HH
bold geode
Yeah no max spatk
polar canyon
Unsurprisingly lefties chien pao did not win
molten oasis
I did but i felt it had too much bulk for my liking, i adjusted it because of HH
what
ember linden
We’re talking about bolt right?
crimson flume
molten oasis
so you want to die to flutte lando and pao
autumn vault
It survives e-power fro max special attack lando
ember linden
I mean it lives jolly crash at least
molten oasis
not with the adjusted evs
crimson flume
its a waste, you dont need it
Hmmm okay.
autumn vault
I havent touched it's hp or defense so dying to pao is not likeu at max hp
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/6ba9105e232c4254
Run like Taunt or Substitute instead of Sandsear
Sandsear ain't really consistent
polar canyon
Unless it's raining
bold geode
Yeah unless it's raining
polar canyon
You can put it on an archaludon team and it fits
bold geode
That's about it
ember linden
If you want to run that much you have to go 76 speed at least on your bolt, so you’d go like 220
molten oasis
252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 116 HP / 92 Def Raging Bolt: 180-212 (83.7 - 98.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
ember linden
I’m talking about that Raging Bolt spreead
bold geode
Yeah
Speed is fine
ember linden
I already calc’d that
bold geode
Honestly just go back to Drago's bulk, it's fucking stupid how it works
molten oasis
ok ig you do STILL
you do not
ever need max special attack
what kills are you not picking up that decided this?
ember linden
I’m using 228/-0/108/164+/4/4 rn
molten oasis
if its av no but if not yes
ember linden
It’s fine
molten oasis
holy shit bolts are running up to 156 speed
bold geode
Wtf
ember linden
😃
bold geode
When
molten oasis
Raging Bolt @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 180 HP / 68 Def / 100 SpA / 4 SpD / 156 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderclap
- Protect
ember linden
On a tw team right??
molten oasis
id assume so
ember linden
Okay thank god
crimson flume
@molten oasis Do you have a pokepaste for your RB spreads?
molten oasis
im adjusting evs to allow my bolt to outspeed and kill bolts
bold geode
Oh I think Wolfe ran a decent amount of speed on like
His Exeggutor team
That's about it
crimson flume
Nvm. Already saw it.
molten oasis
lol all good
bold geode
im adjusting evs to allow my bolt to outspeed and kill bolts
I don't think that the CM Bolts are running 156 speed
ember linden
What do y’all use for most common ev spreads? I use labmaus
molten oasis
lemme look at that
crimson flume
Raging Bolt @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
...
Wait Tera Water?
bold geode
The Calm Mind Bolt from the original Japan balance 6 is running 4 speed EVs, but the new ones MIGHT be faster? Probably not by much though
molten oasis
Stormclaw (Raging Bolt) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 116 HP / 92 Def / 196 SpA / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderclap
- Draco Meteor
- Snarl
crimson flume
Raging Bolt @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
...
Also no snarl?
I'm jinxing myself at this point lol.
ember linden
That’s only on AV bolt
willow vault
@prime hazel Pokepaste: https://pokepast.es/3675d96625ad0b36, Rental Code: J4M9L7. Its a very basic team posted by Cybertron (Very good player, would highly recommend watching their videos). Basic premise, is that ogerpon can protect its teamates with follow me allowing for a near free setup of a nasty plot (+2 Special Attack), and Tornadus, allows for speed control and also weather control. Urshifu does big damage and Incineroar is the perfect support pokemon.
molten oasis
how do i look at ev spreads on labmaus
bold geode
I honestly do not think that any Calm Mind Bolts are running over 100 EVs in speed
Hell maybe not even over 60
ember linden
I swear I’ve done it hold on
bold geode
Drago I'd honestly like
Keep bumping up a stat point until you find the most consistent speed
ember linden
I was tripping nvm
molten oasis
thats so much testing monke
bold geode
But I think you just go like 12-20 EVs
bold geode
Yeah both the one in Japan balance and mine and Tofu's old one never went past 4
I honestly don't think Calm Mind Bolt is going 68
Maybe Magnet or Booster
Or even AV
bold geode
I'm just saying
I'd go 20 EVs for now
If you keep getting outsped, go a bit higher
Actually hold on
willow vault
monke i need to beat bolt
I think ting-lu should always win against bolt
molten oasis
nothing on munchstats says 20
molten oasis
I think ting-lu should always win against bolt
i cant replace any members
willow vault
What are the members
bold geode
Ok Tyo's set has 84, and that's the most I've seen except for Wolfe's Exeggutor team maybe
molten oasis
prima incin hearthflame bolt fari and gapdos
mighty stump
Yeah both the one in Japan balance and mine and Tofu's old one never went past 4
what
molten oasis
tofu do you know what the average calm mind bolt hits speed wise?
willow vault
prima incin hearthflame bolt fari and gapdos
Stomping on Ogerpon?
mighty stump
I run 68
molten oasis
76 it is
bold geode
Why fast
crimson flume
Is choice scarf on rapid urshifu really better than mystic water?
molten oasis
Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 116 HP / 108 Def / 108 SpA / 100 SpD / 76 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderclap
- Draco Meteor
- Snarl
new set
willow vault
Is choice scarf on rapid urshifu really better than mystic water?
Yes
crimson flume
I find it limiting considering you can only use one move...
mighty stump
That’s why you run U-Turn
mighty stump
CS Urshifu is used as a positional pin
willow vault
Both are very good, for tailwind mystic is also good
ember linden
100 sp.def?
willow vault
100 sp.def?
What does?
molten oasis
100 sp.def?
lemme go check what those were for 1 sec
Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 116 HP / 108 Def / 124 SpA / 100 SpD / 76 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderclap
- Draco Meteor
- Snarl
ember linden
I assume it was just for more bulk
molten oasis
wait thats not, fuck
36+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 116 HP / 100 SpD Assault Vest Raging Bolt: 180-216 (83.7 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
36 SpA Beads of Ruin Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 116 HP / 100 SpD Assault Vest Raging Bolt: 168-200 (78.1 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
crimson flume
Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EV...
Hmmm... 76 speed.... 🤔 Okay...
molten oasis
with the amount of special attack invest i have i still ohko things
crimson flume
Stormclaw (Raging Bolt) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
T...
I'll use this for now. xD
molten oasis
ok
ember linden
What do we think about the tera fire clear amulet pao set?
molten oasis
i forgot that was a thing
craggy dagger
that’s a thing?
ember linden
I’ve been wanting to try it, since incin in team preview just makes me not want to lead it at all
molten oasis
its probably fine
ember linden
My leads would be much more flexible
autumn vault
36+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 116 HP / 100 SpD As...
I personally think that trying to survive such a super effective hit like this is not that important, besides with the team i use it does pretty good against flutter which is another reason i switched ev spreads
molten oasis
what?
bold geode
What do we think about the tera fire clear amulet pao set?
Oh that
I wouldn't say it's the best
I still think Sash Ghost is the way to go
willow vault
I personally think that trying to survive such a super effective hit like this i...
What are smoking???
ember linden
Before I was sash stellar
autumn vault
Surviving powerful hits is important dont get me wrong, besides i have snarl and tera fairy on it so that is less worying
ember linden
I’m testing it on 1500 ladder rn so I’ll know soon
bold geode
Stellar is nice, but I love dodging Fake Outs
bold geode
I’m testing it on 1500 ladder rn so I’ll know soon
My peak
molten oasis
nice
autumn vault
If it was a non-tera format i would try to build bolt to survive beads of ruin moonblast but teras exist and so does snarl, tera fairy is very good anyways and helps counter both urshifus
bold geode
I dropped down like 80 ELO and 7% afterwards though due to dumb shit
bold geode
I’m at the same point too, absolute W
But 70% GXE?
molten oasis
If it was a non-tera format i would try to build bolt to survive beads of ruin m...
you dont get a snarl off first
autumn vault
That is true
willow vault
But 70% GXE?
65%, not that fr off
bold geode
I don't even care about ELO, it's just like
Pairing it with my best GXE ever like
autumn vault
But a tera fairy moonblast isnt that threatening when i tera bolt and use snarl after it's moonblast
willow vault
I don't even care about ELO, it's just like
Pairing it with my best GXE ever li...
How is gxe calculated?
autumn vault
Crits exist but it isnt urshifu and flutter wont spam it like crazy unlike urshifu
bold geode
How is gxe calculated?
Idk just win lmao
molten oasis
But a tera fairy moonblast isnt that threatening when i tera bolt and use snarl ...
youre not relying on tera
willow vault
Valid
molten oasis
on bolt
autumn vault
Valid
bold geode
I'll change your EVs Drago
Make you short
molten oasis
monke
autumn vault
I have saw WolfeyVGC's video and a bolt with way too much investment can ohko mane but this bolt isn't like his and again, flutter isnt a bad mu onto my team
bold geode
Wait idk if Drago's even tall
molten oasis
I have saw WolfeyVGC's video and a bolt with way too much investment can ohko ma...
YEA
the only kills you miss with my investment is MAYBE a bolt
bold geode
That Bolt was also running Tera Electric and Magnet and needed HH still
molten oasis
with my new spread its the same thing
im just faster and i dont miss any important ko's
autumn vault
If it was a team with a bigger weakness to flutter yes i would use your spread but it isn't a bad MU so i dont have to worry too much about it, i also use thunderbolt btw so it can matter (not too much but something)
molten oasis
thats not the fucking point, yk what whatever
you want to die to flutter EVEN WITH YOUR ANSWERS go ahead idgaf
bold geode
If it was a team with a bigger weakness to flutter yes i would use your spread b...
See you can't change spreads willy nilly without knowing what they do, spreads are made an exact way for a reason
autumn vault
I tested the bolt because tests never lie (mostly) and it isn't causing much issue for the team and itself
ember linden
Someone give me an av incin spread please
molten oasis
Because you have a poltergeist Mon
That’s is literally why you’re changing the spreads
bold geode
Someone give me an av incin spread please
I think Wolfe's is probably solid enough on that Exeggutor team
autumn vault
Not poltergeist specifically but close
ember linden
Idk what that is
crimson flume
https://pokepast.es/0adc7b1b6a288262 Aight. That's my team. XD
molten oasis
You have a single Mon that handles flutter which for some reason gives the thought of I don’t need defense evs and for some fucking reason you need max special attack and the reasons why aren’t getting to your head
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/0adc7b1b6a288262 Aight. That's my team. XD
Expanding force without psychic terrain is a crime
crimson flume
Expanding force without psychic terrain is a crime
Oh fudge. What am I doing...
I forgot about indeedee...
willow vault
Haven’t put to much input into this team but could a 6 of flutter, Kingambit, gouging fire, Ogerpon-w, Landorus-I and amoongus work. Gives lots of redirection for Landorus to set up, gouging + Kingambit is strong. Flutter = Flutter. And it has both a fwg core and fairy, steel and dragon core.
bold geode
Haven’t put to much input into this team but could a 6 of flutter, Kingambit, go...
Could yeah
I don't see why not
willow vault
Cool
ember linden
Could yeah
I don't see why not
What’s his spread?
molten oasis
Who’s spread?
bold geode
Watch his Exeggutor vid
autumn vault
In my team i only notice 2 pokemon vunerable to it, tyranitar who has sand and bolt, houndstone in sand can outspeed non booster speed flutter and ohko it with poltergeist and wellspring can always tera and redirect moonblast without much issue or annihilate it with ivy cudgel
molten oasis
Oh the wolfey vid
bold geode
I'm working rn lmao
ember linden
I’ve been watching it was it in the beginning?
molten oasis
In my team i only notice 2 pokemon vunerable to it, tyranitar who has sand and b...
Teams with flutter answers still calc to live flutter
bold geode
Yeah
When he first shows the Incineroar
ember linden
Ah
willow vault
Teams with flutter answers still calc to live flutter
I can confirm, we do
molten oasis
Just because it hasn’t been a problem doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be prepared for it
autumn vault
Max hp tyranitar definetely survives moonblast in sand pretty well and its banded knock off
molten oasis
Does it live 2
autumn vault
Let me go calc that
crimson flume
Expanding force without psychic terrain is a crime
willow vault
Does it live 2
If the answer isn’t no, I will be shocked
willow vault
https://pokepast.es/67403b957b3c7e8d
Looks good to me
autumn vault
36 SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 66-78 (31.8 - 37.6%) -- 69.9% chance to 3HKO
molten oasis
Honestly if you want to drop bulk
willow vault
Damn
willow vault
I am shocked
molten oasis
Go 252 252
crimson flume
Go 252 252
On RB?
molten oasis
Yes
autumn vault
252 SpA Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 98-116 (47.3 - 56%) -- 73.8% chance to 2HKO
A chace to live 2
molten oasis
Cuz our ttar user thinks that my evs are a waste for his team because of flutter
Not being an issue
bold geode
LMFAO Drago just go cool off
autumn vault
LMFAO Drago just go cool off
Thanks for saying this Monke
gentle cragBOT
Thanks for saying this Monke
lycopoky has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke
autumn vault
I never said your evs are a waste
crimson flume
Go 252 252
HP SP Attack?
autumn vault
I ignore 1 and all of a sudden i ignore ev spreads and try to get worse which is clearly not the case
molten oasis
LMFAO Drago just go cool off
So I can’t defend my ev spread at all being tinkered with
bold geode
I'm not saying it to side with ya though lol
I think just changing it cuz one thing counters it is dumb especially considering Flutter is everywhere
bold geode
So I can’t defend my ev spread at all being tinkered with
You have though
And has it worked?
Sometimes there's battles that aren't worth fighting
molten oasis
Ok dad
willow vault
How about everyone calms down, and takes a breath outside and gets some water to clear our heads.
mighty stump
I mean
autumn vault
How about everyone calms down, and takes a breath outside and gets some water to...
I am chill rn, but a reminder is always nice Crephace
crimson flume
I am chill rn, but a reminder is always nice Crephace
mighty stump
Every individual should weigh the input of another’s opinion differently
Some opinions matter more than others
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/0bca7dc66aef25db
Yes i saw it
crimson flume
Is EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe viable on RB? I don't even see this being used in pyka lol.
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/0bca7dc66aef25db
I wasn’t talking to you when I said that
willow vault
I don’t use rb, I can’t help you
autumn vault
Honestly i dont have much objections that are that bad
crimson flume
I wasn’t talking to you when I said that
MB MB... xD
molten oasis
With the bolt, the spread I gave you should be fine
bold geode
Some opinions matter more than others
You're trash
willow vault
How about we stop with these arguments and move onto some other point of conversation, I think it will be overall more practical
autumn vault
How about we stop with these arguments and move onto some other point of convers...
Yes
molten oasis
Ok, 1 note, if you want ti max damage go 252 hp 252 spa modest and don’t mess with ev spreads thanks
That’s all
willow vault
Stop, we moved on. No more mention of previous conversation till all egos have calmed.
molten oasis
It was a final note, whatsver
mighty stump
Stop, we moved on. No more mention of previous conversation till all egos have c...
I don’t see an argument going on lol
bold geode
molten oasis
Scroll up
mighty stump
That was an argument?
willow vault
I don’t see an argument going on lol
For once I try to be helpful. I don’t want to have to be helpful again
mighty stump
You don’t have to be though
bold geode
mighty stump
Sometimes people gotta sort thjngs out
bold geode
The math ain't mathin
mighty stump
The consequences that follows are up to the participants anyhow
autumn vault
I tried to be as chill as possible, like what Crephace would say we should move on from it
bold geode
Tofu I got a question for ya
Am I a dumbass for thinking about Tera Flying Blast Lando I?
mighty stump
Am I a dumbass for thinking about Tera Flying Blast Lando I?
Not really.
willow vault
You don’t have to be though
But I choose to
autumn vault
Am I a dumbass for thinking about Tera Flying Blast Lando I?
No no you are onto something
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
bold geode
Idk Poison Tera kinda just better though
autumn vault
If it had a secondary effect though
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
molten oasis
You gain 2 more types to hit for se ig
bold geode
I mean
Idk why I've never seen it
molten oasis
Cuz poison does most of what flying does, I think
bold geode
Then again, I remember the Choice Specs Landorus Therian I fought once
autumn vault
Both are super effective against flying, they dont share any other types they are super effective against
mighty stump
But I choose to
What i’m trying to say is, blanket statements that try to just cut off a conversation that has already died down isn’t really productive
molten oasis
…
willow vault
Then again, I remember the Choice Specs Landorus Therian I fought once
That’s an odd item to use
mighty stump
Drago clearly reeled it in already
bold geode
Yeah
Just making the water stagnant
willow vault
What i’m trying to say is, blanket statements that try to just cut off a convers...
Ok, you’re not wrong, I just wanted to talk about something else.
mighty stump
It’s bound to get heated in this channel anyways
bold geode
It’s bound to get heated in this channel anyways
Yeah imma go ask Brady now bitch bye
willow vault
Yeah
Just making the water stagnant
Water stagnant?
bold geode
Idk
Me no no English
molten oasis
Calm water over crashing waves
willow vault
Oh, thanks
willow vault
It’s bound to get heated in this channel anyways
That’s true
bold geode
Calm water over crashing waves
Crasher Wake (fuck that guy)
mighty stump
I don’t mind healthy flames, I’m sure no one bears any real ill will either
autumn vault
I didn't, i only messed with evs a bit
mighty stump
Sometimes they just get fanned too hot
molten oasis
No, I just don’t like seeing my evs tinkered with
bold geode
I hate all you fuckers (joke)
willow vault
What i’m trying to say is, blanket statements that try to just cut off a convers...
What’s funny is you were just being right and I felt like I was being scolded by a teacher. Weird feeling that
autumn vault
I hate all you fuckers (joke)
Ok Fucker (joke)
bold geode
Ok Fucker (joke)
turns on camera to see I'm actually Jerry Trainor
mighty stump
Anyhow, carry on
molten oasis
I have to work, so bye
autumn vault
Bye Drago, have a good day
willow vault
Cya
bold geode
So I heard once Rillaboom looks like it's forklift certified. Thoughts?
willow vault
So I heard once Rillaboom looks like it's forklift certified. Thoughts?
I agree, do you think pangoro is forklift certified?
willow vault
It do be quite stronk
autumn vault
Well i also have to go
willow vault
Ok
autumn vault
Bye humans, have a good day
willow vault
Cya
craggy swan
yo bro I said this last year
foggy lodge
Anyone who could help me with an ev spread for a tera fire miracle seed Rillaboom?
bold geode
Tailwind or no Tailwind on the team?
foggy lodge
No tailwind
Speed control with Icy wind Flutter and Raging electroweb
This is the team
foggy lodge
Thanks!!
atomic mural
im just sticking with ting lu
dull ibex
vgc stream?
bold geode
vgc stream?
In a little while, maybe like 40 minutes if still wanna
I'll ping ya later, see if you still interested
dull ibex
fair
upbeat quail
What’s everyone gonna use for the GC?
next stump
https://pokepast.es/f6aa497951bbdb56
something similar to this
craggy dagger
i’d use something like this if i had my console
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/87f0470f0e88fd9b
Good luck to my opps
marble coral
https://pokepast.es/87f0470f0e88fd9b
Good luck to my opps
menacing
upbeat quail
https://pokepast.es/f6aa497951bbdb56
something similar to this
Power band Urshifu new meta?
craggy dagger
for trick room :0
power band shifu does its thing well
upbeat quail
Oh that’s neat
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/87f0470f0e88fd9b
Good luck to my opps
You’re sharing that shit now I see
crimson flume
yo bro I said this last year<:PikaLmao:678990785500413962>
Yeah. Been studying the old chats lol.
marble coral
gl to my gc opps https://pokepast.es/6dc66749fd393da1
molten oasis
Idt I’m gonna do it tbh, if I want to play I’ll just play the ladder or a bo3 against someone
bold geode
Don't make me pull out my Upper Hand Infernape y'all
covert urchin
can i ask for playthrough team advice here?
first playthrough of pokemon Y and i wanna preplan my team
bold geode
@dull ibex know it's late, but you still up for?
bold geode
Oh
dull ibex
if you dont want anymore I get it
bold geode
Eh it's alright
What doing
dull ibex
minecraft
bold geode
😮
dull ibex
I could stream that lmao
bold geode
Pog
bold geode
@mighty stump where ya at bud
Red is in need of fuckin schooling
VGC is not pogging out rn
dull ibex
I don't remember how to play vgc properly 😭
dark anvil
Does anybody want to double battle
bold geode
@ember linden and again
GG
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> where ya at bud
I’m at work
mighty stump
KEKW
ember linden
L peak
molten oasis
Reg f bo3 anyone?
dull ibex
I’m at work
I said that LMAO
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2090034805 fast knock off is funny
I was originally just gonna wipe rilla with a brave bird but the fo gave me an idea
candid lintel
hey guys, does anyone know the exact days of the championship in hawaii?
charred saddle
theres a new GC?
still the same reward?
and does anyone have any sets for gastrodon? would be helpful if theres any calcs too
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2090034805 fast knock off is ...
What the actual fuck, a meteor beam Glimmora without power herb
Also i am also at the 1300 (was 1400) elo on showdown, like that account you have (or alt idk)
ember linden
The power herb was knocked off-
autumn vault
Oh, i see
mighty stump
hey guys, does anyone know the exact days of the championship in hawaii?
No one does
autumn vault
0 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 177-211 (100.5 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Well from now on i will run tera stellar regigigas
+1 0 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 188 HP / 132 Def Raging Bolt: 250-294 (111.6 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
172 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 211-250 (105.5 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 172 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee-F: 278-328 (157 - 185.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 76 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Stellar Regigigas: 154-182 (78.9 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 76 HP / 4 Def Tera-Stellar Regigigas: 94-111 (48.2 - 56.9%) -- 89.8% chance to 2HKO
+1 172 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 236 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 309-367 (157.6 - 187.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
proof that regigigas weezing is still good
autumn vault
252 SpA Life Orb Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Weezing: 151-179 (87.7 - 104%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Weezing on a critical hit: 123-145 (71.5 - 84.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
dull ibex
yeah im not sure what to lead into what which is currently fustrating me the most
the target prioritzation and misplays I can work on, I want to get good at leads again
autumn vault
You can send pokepaste and we can assist with the leads
dull ibex
so far working with this v
https://pokepast.es/de0d32d73cb7eb96 sorry keyboard is weird
autumn vault
Flutter + Chi-Yu and Urshifu-S/Glimmora + Tornadus are good leads
Chi-Yu + Glimmora
Ogerpon-W + Flutter/Chi-Yu/Urshifu-S
That is all i got
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/de0d32d73cb7eb96 sorry keyboard is weird
Ogerpon needs to be Jolly 188
and the Urshifu is Adamant
dull ibex
Gotcha
crisp hedge
https://pokepast.es/624c91b38705cb3a did i cook?
bitter heart
0 Atk Life Orb Tera-Stellar Regigigas Double-Edge (1st Use) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urs...
Why stellar instead of normal? Isn't the boost +50% either way?
mighty stump
On Normal types usually (due to their high coverage) Stellar tera gives more value if you're going for an offensive mode to boost essentially all of your moves.
mighty stump
You did not, no.
- Scream Tail is inefficient with Perish Song since you don't have trapping or true bulk to actually stall besides Arboliva.
- Typhlosion still needs another Fire STAB besides Eruption. Anti-priority essentially required + Speed Control
- Arboliva is just meh. The set is also wasting EVs.
- Walking Wake in Sun would rather just run Tera Fire/Tera Steel with Flamethrower. Set is also wasting EVs
- Chi-Yu is the wrong nature. Overheat does more for you than Psychic.
And structurally it just looks overall clunky
I'd be concerned about the linearity of the potential gameplan considering you have only 1 real mode
crisp hedge
thanks for the feedback in reconsider some things
autumn vault
On Normal types usually (due to their high coverage) Stellar tera gives more val...
Iirc the investment i have on regigigas can ohko incineroar with a stellar boosted DE
lofty tartan
gl to my gc opps https://pokepast.es/6dc66749fd393da1
https://pokepast.es/1bb8d909fc0e301f
I hope you don't see me during the GC 
autumn vault
I am coming with my sand team https://pokepast.es/90485397365247fd be afraid
marble coral
https://pokepast.es/1bb8d909fc0e301f
I hope you don't see me during the GC <:Ge...
Goatres will prevail
lofty tartan
upbeat quail
How do y’all feel about Wolfey’s exeggutor team? Would you guys make any changes to it if I were to use it in the GC?
autumn vault
How do y’all feel about Wolfey’s exeggutor team? Would you guys make any changes...
I would make bolt bulkier without removing any SpA
With T-Clap it isnt that important to outspeed scarf urshifu
lofty tartan
If they Aqua Jet and are faster, your Tclap fails.
autumn vault
Then use thunderbolt
I mostly use T-Bolt unless they go before a pokemon that is faster without urshifu having scarf
lofty tartan
The likelihood that you'll outspeed scarf shifu with bolt is like none anyway - I'm not sure of the set, but I know Exeggutor is pretty niche for a pick and has a good deal of things threatening it (Incineroar is a big one)
Frankly though, if it's a Calm Mind/Tclap set that only runs Clap as the electric option, replace it with Tbolt anyway
willow vault
The likelihood that you'll outspeed scarf shifu with bolt is like none anyway - ...
So from what I have understood, Wolfe is a really good player, even better with weird picks and other people will likely struggle to get as much value. That makes sense.
autumn vault
So from what I have understood, Wolfe is a really good player, even better with ...
He did win 2016 VGC with a hitmontop and Raichu (endeavor ik)
lofty tartan
Yes, 100%
Like Wolfe will perform better than me with anything, including weird stuff, and that just means he's a higher caliber player than me - not specifically that the mon is good or anything. Could be, but it's Exeggutor. xD
willow vault
He did win 2016 VGC with a hitmontop and Raichu (endeavor ik)
I know, I was simply stating that using exeggutor will probably be a bad idea
lofty tartan
If you're not in contention for points and a Worlds invite, needing the GC to have a CP payout in order to help pad your total, then it's a good place to just play something that's fun or you like in a general sense.
willow vault
Fair enough, I have awful internet so I don’t participate
lofty tartan
That's understandable for sure
autumn vault
I have pretty good internet so i will play
willow vault
I mean I can’t judge what people use, I’m the classic dondozo user, so whatever others play is more valid than my team.
lofty tartan
I'm playing Dondozo on my GC team this time - first time using it. Uniquely a lot of teams are really soft to it right now, so I'm down for it 🤷
willow vault
I'm playing Dondozo on my GC team this time - first time using it. Uniquely a l...
What’s on your team, if you don’t care about sharing that is
Oh that’s your team a 2x2x2, looks interesting. I’m glad I’m not playing against that.
lofty tartan
Yeah nothing insanely groundbreaking, but very effective 🤷
solid frigate
I'm playing Dondozo on my GC team this time - first time using it. Uniquely a l...
with Tasu or no
willow vault
It was with tatsu
molten oasis
I suck dude
mighty stump
What metric are you basing your suckiness on
molten oasis
I can’t fucking beat anything, taunt flutter
Faster ogerpon
The fucking randomness of bo1 is so annoying
How am I supposed to set up Primarina when you’re spamming taunt on a fucking fluttermane
mighty stump
Well a turn of them clicking Taunt is a turn of them not doing damage
molten oasis
I had incin and Prima in the field next to Tera fire ogerpon, I made 1 play correct the whole game and lost because their ogerpon was faster
And they’re running taunt and icy wind
And then someone I fight gets ALL of their sacred fire burns and I miss my wisp in return
It is a combination of getting cheeses
With rng
Miss playing
And evs BARELY mattering
mighty stump
Well I guess the next wall you face is just acceptance really
But with the EVs, you might just need to reframe it and check their relevance
molten oasis
Acceptance I can’t pilot this team and I need to go play double fo bolt meta yippee
molten oasis
No, I feel like any adjustment I make feels worthless
The speed on bolt hasn’t felt useful at all
mighty stump
Okay
Go take a break
And just take the speed on bolt and dump it into bulk or something else
Everything is meant to "barely matter" since the whole game is about microadjusting constantly
molten oasis
fair, dropping this shit team, doenst work, I don’t understand how I managed to get a result in a tournament with this and then I can’t even keep it in 1500’s
mighty stump
Sometimes the process is easier than you think.
- Has this felt important? No? Dump it
mighty stump
fair, dropping this shit team, doenst work, I don’t understand how I managed to ...
Yeah but which result are you choosing to focus on lol
I don't think some top players care about their current ladder ratings
molten oasis
…fair
molten oasis
Well I’m not a top player, I’m like, above average maybe
but I can follow in the footsteps of them ig
mighty stump
Just do Bo1 for what it is
Bo1 and just to get a judge
A read
On like
How things feel
molten oasis
Beyond the rng being obviously on their side today, the team is, fine
willow vault
Is gouging fire generally Tera fairy?
molten oasis
Asking/bo3 ladder
molten oasis
Is gouging fire generally Tera fairy?
Yes
mighty stump
It's for the Breaking Swipe mirrors and Darkshifu
willow vault
Cool
mighty stump
Gouging Fire is it's own answer
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/f284997bccd15808 so, ig dump the speed into hp/spa
I’m kinda considering a different Tera for Prima, kinda
mighty stump
Fire
molten oasis
It hasn’t been bad but fire types have been, annoying
Alr
Why that over like, poison for example?
Oh no shit the speed wasn’t doing anything I had the wrong fucking evs
molten oasis
Alr
mighty stump
or mane
and if theyre clicking Taunt
Just click buttons
They only have so much HP lol
willow vault
Thoughts? https://pokepast.es/b3f33d1f8e06d03e
molten oasis
I’m starting to consider eweb bolt
willow vault
I’m starting to consider eweb bolt
It is pretty good
molten oasis
Idk if that’s what I’m going to end up doing
I’m mostly worried about gouging Fire as they’re hitting like, max speed
And Gapdos can’t outspeed that without going jolly
Although I want tclap and tbolt so I’m probably gonna drop snarl if I do that
timber falcon
Helli hello comp chat
willow vault
Hi
molten oasis
Hi
willow vault
How are you?
timber falcon
Have I missed anything?
molten oasis
Not really no
timber falcon
Great thanks
willow vault
I have a team I’m happy with
timber falcon
Building the 5th paladfin team today (5th times the charm)
willow vault
Other than that, you haven’t missed anything
willow vault
Building the 5th paladfin team today (5th times the charm)
How’s the delusion still kicking in?
timber falcon
One day I tell you one day
willow vault
Alright
timber falcon
Heck even if reg g comes out I’ll still be working on it
molten oasis
Shifu is better, just saying
timber falcon
Yeah I know
willow vault
Dewpider clears both
timber falcon
Dewpider clears both
Mudkip gaps
willow vault
Damn
autumn vault
Helli hello comp chat
Hey
lofty tartan
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/kermit-spinning-laundry-gif-15147601
Get bowl'd Kermit
upbeat quail
Wolfey’s Exeggutor team is really strong and super easy to pilot
I would highly recommend it
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/d7d4c9a1458cb9ed I modified my miraidon team a bit. thoughts?
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/d7d4c9a1458cb9ed I modified my miraidon team a bit. thoughts...
Why do you have ting Lu?
Also if you’re going supportive Hearthflame I’d suggest more bulk
atomic mural
I just want it to KO every rilaboom
molten oasis
…
Go swords dance then
Idt Hearthflame (if supportive) wants max attack
Btw since you’re specs yiu can go pulse on miraidon
So yiu can sit and chip down rilla
Plus like, bundle+Hearthflame beats most rilla
The average rilla is Tera fire so you pressure them not to Tera and yiu can redirect any grass attacks (glide) with follow me
I can give it a test with you if needed
You also do like 90% to it and icy wind+cudgel always kills
With a bulkier set
If you also need practice against rilla I’m around
For like an hour
timber falcon
Wolfey’s Exeggutor team is really strong and super easy to pilot
cant wait for the clones to start rolling in
molten oasis
Technically more cuz I do not give a shit about my English class at all
atomic mural
true
molten oasis
Adding hearth also gives you a Zac answer
Zac can’t hit it very hard (without boosts)
atomic mural
also ting lu is there for calyrex shadow and double dark
molten oasis
I feel like incin is enough but ok
Idt ting Lu is bad just gotta be careful with miraidon as the focus
Do you want to run a match?
atomic mural
give me a sec
252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 21-25 (8.5 - 10.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
molten oasis
Lol
atomic mural
252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu in Rain: 146-174 (59.1 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Caly chi yu team will hate ting Lu
atomic mural
252 SpA Tera Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu in Rain: 196-232 (79.3 - 93.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
not tera from ting btw
molten oasis
Yea
atomic mural
alright im ready as ill ever be
molten oasis
alright im ready as ill ever be
Ok, gimme a few minutes I’m getting food
atomic mural
aight
atomic mural
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/4c227a9010e2dfa0
User?
atomic mural
DJCornyGaming
molten oasis
G1, do not forfeit
atomic mural
of course you got a double protect
molten oasis
Play out matches
It’s the best way to learn
You also get time to gain information
Also, play to win not to lose
atomic mural
im also just bad at making gameplans
atomic mural
hold on can i test something
molten oasis
Yea
atomic mural
can you just lead like your fastest pokemon and something random
molten oasis
Ok
atomic mural
with rilla in the back
molten oasis
I’ll lead Zac incin
atomic mural
its not anything move related
alright thats neat
def gonna help with terrain wars
molten oasis
Do you want to do another bo3?
atomic mural
sure ig
molten oasis
I’ll admit that protect was stupid lucky lol
But you gotta play to win
Take your outs
molten oasis
Sorry gotta do something
atomic mural
Bruh I left my computer to get a haircut lmao
atomic mural
Got it
molten oasis
I fucking passed my test i studied for last second let’s goo
crimson flume
Congrats
molten oasis
100% too
crimson flume
Drago, wanna fight? I need someone to comment on my decision making lol.
crimson flume
Yeah
molten oasis
Sure
crimson flume
God I hate rillaboom and his stupid grassy terrain.
molten oasis
Luckily you won’t deal with it against me
crimson flume
Casual battles?
molten oasis
Can you play on showdown?
crimson flume
I think I can.
molten oasis
Alr, I don’t have my switch
crimson flume
molten oasis
Ok
crimson flume
Now I wish my water urshifu can switch tera types.
What a pain in the arse.
Again
I forgot it was ots for bo3
inner crest
I'm not a online battler, but I do like to get ribbins on my pokemon. I would like to ask help. But I do not know which chat to ask in, for help.
molten oasis
Ggs
crimson flume
Nice thunderclap xD
molten oasis
I don’t think you played bad
crimson flume
You already knew I would try a priority move.
molten oasis
Yea, it was how you kill incin
crimson flume
I don’t think you played bad
I need more practice on piloting... I think....
molten oasis
Yea, the team isn’t bad
crimson flume
I expected to OHKO, but I think I did rain dance too late.
crimson flume
Hmmm, even in my switch games, for some reason I'm pretty conservative when bringing out bolt.
When do you decide to bring out bolt?
molten oasis
You have 5 special attackers
Bolt is also good into torn shifu and crown
I get to snarl basically for free
To drop the damage from crown
Allowing Prima to set up or my partners ti take hits
molten oasis
…
crimson flume
Sorry.. I think I'm wrong.
molten oasis
k, I’m not gonna compare it to flutter
Flutter can do calm mind stuff
However Primarina is bringing a really good typing into the meta for the format
crimson flume
For some reason, your primarina was pretty bulky.
molten oasis
Prima is good into, both shifus, pao, flutter, chi yu, incin, armarouge
crimson flume
Couldn't faint it even with less than half hp.
molten oasis
Gouging fire
molten oasis
Couldn't faint it even with less than half hp.
Im also bulkier than a fluttermane
Poseidon (Primarina) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 64
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 212 HP / 164 Def / 52 SpA / 76 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind
- Protect
At +1 spD I eat hits
And I mean EAT hits
Prima has paper defense so most of my evs are shoved there
Special defense allows it to take hits from lando i
Lefties let’s it gain recovery
And I (now) have a helping hand Mon to allow Prima to deal more damage without needing set up right away
So yea, my Prima is built very bulky
I was expecting that eforce to kill tbh
Anyway, looking back
crimson flume
Now I'm tempted to add primarina to my team...
molten oasis
No
You need ti build around it, pretty heavily
It is not easy to pilot
This twam is built around it, having tr for speed control, defiant gapdos as a snarl “counter”, ogerpon for redirect, bolt for damage reduction and a nuke button to other bolts, and incin for fo pressure and intimidate
Flutter mane AS A WHOLE is better than Prima since you can build it bulky like that and just win games with specs (fuck fluttermane)
However Prima set itself apart from it with a better defensive typing (imo), better bulk and rn better into the meta
Not that, shit
It’s good into the meta right now not better than flutter lol
crimson flume
A lot of thought was put into it too...
molten oasis
Yea, and it literally happened because someone said “Primarina has good synergy with Hearthflame”
Originally it was built around gapdos
But I can only get so far with it
And the 6th has changed a lot
I’ve tested dengo (which is a good variant if you want an alternative damage dealer), Archaludon (over bolt) and lando I, I’ve tested ting Lu, and I’ve tested rilla
Found dengo good but I needed a better answer to the double fo shit and Fari helps
Archaludon ended up just not being what I wanted and made mu into rain ass
Lando I, is not something I like piloting and it didn’t feel like it fit here
Ting Lu just, sucked lol
It didn’t fit at all and wasn’t really helping Primarina more than hindering it
And then rilla stacked too many weaknesses
For my liking
Here’s the type chart
No more than 2 overlapping weaknesses
Although having 3 is fine, it’s not THAT big of a deal it’s just a personal thing
I care a lot about defensive synergy
ANYWAY
Dammit I couldn’t get the first game
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2090431582 @crimson flume wanna look over this?
This was game 2
Ok first turn
crimson flume
Dang someone just spammed hypnosis on both my mons...
molten oasis
You shouldn’t have let shifu take a thunderclap like that
timber falcon
Dang someone just spammed hypnosis on both my mons...
i hate that gimmick
molten oasis
Infront of bolt ideally you don’t want shifu on the field
And u-turning causes you usually lose shifu
So there I would have hard switched into indeedee and probably rain danced
You weren’t ever killing my farigiraf with a double up
On that turn I think yiu go for just, removing Fari with surging strikes+rain dance and maybe Tera water
Or hard switch indeedee, tclap is a mind game
Otherwise I think you played fine
Bleakwind missing the amount of times it did was kinda sucky
crimson flume
Originally it was built around gapdos
Galarian Zapdos is only catchable in Swsh no?
I don't think I've seen that mon available in SV
molten oasis
Yea but it’s transferable
Just not catchable in sv
Although I think it should have been possible through the the legendary catching method
Just on the unova island
crimson flume
You shouldn’t have let shifu take a thunderclap like that
Thunderclap is like offensive detect... I think... it only works if the opponent makes an offensive move...
Damn forgot about that.
molten oasis
It’s like sucker punch
I feel like bolt was built to counter tornshifu lol
It was VERY dominant up until this reg
crimson flume
Is there a good counter to spam hypnosis?
The heck, it's like I couldn't even play.
crimson flume
Espathra with hypnosis lol
crimson flume
My mons fell asleep before they could even make a move.
molten oasis
Did you use tailwind?
crimson flume
Did you use tailwind?
Nah. Had no idea espathra can do hypnosis.
molten oasis
So that’s just more lack of knowledge then, no harm in that
Usually Esparatha is speed boost hypnosis shit
molten oasis
Mhmm
charred saddle
the actual fuck?
pearl wind
solid frigate
Here’s the type chart
i think i might just refer you as the Galarian Zapdos man now lol
molten oasis
willow vault
Hallo
molten oasis
willow vault
i think i might just refer you as the Galarian Zapdos man now lol
Wouldn’t it be Gapdos man
willow vault
Ok
molten oasis
Oh, someone brought up Fari allows gapdos to just remove all the fo users besides hands
willow vault
Yeah
molten oasis
So like, good luck leading incin and rilla into me now 
willow vault
What if I lead Lando-I and Ogerpon-W
molten oasis
I’m gonna kill your ogerpon
willow vault
Not if I Tera
molten oasis
If you Tera you waste resources
molten oasis
Gapdos eats 3 sludge bombs
crimson flume
So, an ogerpon just used a wood hammer on my rapid urshifu and my urshifu got OHKO-ed. What the actual fudge?
willow vault
So, an ogerpon just used a wood hammer on my rapid urshifu and my urshifu got OH...
That happens
molten oasis
Wait sorry, 2
crimson flume
That happens
Was that crit rng?
molten oasis
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 108 HP / 4 SpD Zapdos-Galar: 87-103 (48.6 - 57.5%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO however I run snarl
willow vault
Wait sorry, 2
That makes more sense
molten oasis
Also helping hand boosted BB ohkos it
willow vault
Interesting
willow vault
Was that crit rng?
Probably not
molten oasis
108+ Atk Zapdos-Galar Helping Hand Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 160-190 (97.5 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO almost every time
crimson flume
I was winning, then a wood hammer.... just on shotted my urshifu. What the fricking hell lol.
molten oasis
Might as well bcuz I’m curious
willow vault
108+ Atk Zapdos-Galar Helping Hand Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 160-190...
I don’t run no bulk but it’s fine
molten oasis
108+ Atk Zapdos-Galar Helping Hand Brave Bird vs. 204 HP / 12 Def Tera-Water Ogerpon-Wellspring: 168-198 (92.8 - 109.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO PFFF
willow vault
Oh wow
molten oasis
I don’t run no bulk but it’s fine
How much
willow vault
252 hp 44 def
molten oasis
Holy shit
willow vault
I don’t run speed if your wondering
willow vault
Not sure just used a set of pikalytics
molten oasis
Are you sure you want that?
willow vault
It’s worked well for me so far
molten oasis
A whole benefit of lando is it’s faster than most of the meta game besides like, ogerpon and scarf stuff
And flutter, and pao
willow vault
I know
willow vault
Yeah
willow vault
No 212 spa
molten oasis
I have not had the same experience with it
willow vault
Different sets
molten oasis
Generally, for some reason when it comes to playing the game
solid frigate
Insert Chien-Pao squealing
yeah there is still no Terapagos so i resort to use Eevee
molten oasis
Generally just don’t like how lando works
willow vault
Eevee? What have I missed
molten oasis
Idk what it is,
willow vault
Generally just don’t like how lando works
Ok, I do so I use it
willow vault
I mean that’s uncalled for
solid frigate
Eevee? What have I missed
Terapagos.
molten oasis
And that goes for all of the genies and the Therians for torn and enam
willow vault
I hate it’s design
I don’t like gapdos design, it just looks odd to me
willow vault
Just different design takes between us
Speaking of which I love the design of galarian moltres
molten oasis
yea, idk
I never got goltres to work for me
Wasn’t meant to be
oh, I have fighting dark psychic core and fire water grass core on the team now, interesting
willow vault
I mean my favourite mons are sandslash, glaceon, cyndaquil, Escavalier and pangoro so like I get it
molten oasis
Fair
Hydra still my favorite, a9 second
Prima and gapdos are moving up because of comp
But third is Zac
(Yes I like zacian that much)
molten oasis
Hmm
Maybe it’s time to do another favorite picker (I am so bored and English homework fucking sucks)
willow vault
Maybe it’s time to do another favorite picker (I am so bored and English homewor...
What’s the homework on?
molten oasis
Essay shit
willow vault
Fair enough
autumn vault
Good point
willow vault
Good point
What is?
autumn vault
I am saying what he said ok
crimson flume
Insert Chien-Pao squealing
What app do you use to make this? I feel like making one for my team lol
willow vault
I am saying what he said ok
I ain’t coming at you
molten oasis
Essays aren’t that bad
Dude
I have to write an essay on a short speech that’s 5 pages long
This one SUCKS
autumn vault
I knew it
willow vault
I take a history degree, essays aren’t bad
molten oasis
Ok you’re used to them
willow vault
What app do you use to make this? I feel like making one for my team lol
I usually use marriland to look at my type matchups
crimson flume
Marriland?
willow vault
Yeah
autumn vault
Marriland?
Marriland team builder
crimson flume
Never heard of it before...
crimson flume
Marriland team builder
I'll check it out.
autumn vault
Its pretty useful
willow vault
Ok you’re used to them
It just means I know what I’m talking about
willow vault
Fair enough
I know this isn’t a popular opinion but once I start writing essays are pretty fun
It’s the researching that can be boring for me
crimson flume
autumn vault
Is it just me or the sand team with excadrill tyranitar + okidogi isn't that good? There are 0 moves that counter water types and it struggles into rain, otherwise it does great
crimson flume
Without the tera types/moves
willow vault
Nice
willow vault
Is it just me or the sand team with excadrill tyranitar + okidogi isn't that goo...
I don’t think I have ever used sand
molten oasis
That’s mean
willow vault
Is it just me or the sand team with excadrill tyranitar + okidogi isn't that goo...
Okidogi on sand seems weird
molten oasis
You’re gonna make me pick from my fucking core
molten oasis
I’m gonna pick it yea
Well I’m picking Zac but man some of these decision are hard lol
willow vault
Aggrons my favourite from that group
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Well I’m picking Zac but man some of these decision are hard lol
I mean once you get to the end it’s only your favourites left
So of course it’s gonna be tough
molten oasis
Luke Hydra and a9 are SO close together when it comes to who I like
Anyway, I’ll be back when it’s done
solid frigate
i feel like i done that before and Greninja,Garchomp and Giratina are my top 3
Terapagos is No.4
willow vault
i feel like i done that before and Greninja,Garchomp and Giratina are my top 3
I’m noticing a theme, they all start with the letter G.
solid frigate
I’m noticing a theme, they all start with the letter G.
willow vault
I’m big smart
solid frigate
i might make a Video about How Bad is Greninja in VGC
solid frigate
cuz its my favoourite Pokemon but i am not gonna let my bias on him
solid frigate
Can we get a competitive history on pangoro video please
that would be interesting
willow vault
And no Pangoro is not my favourite mon
solid frigate
i feel like for me i would just trash about how Greninja fallen from Grace in Gen 9
and it can't keep up the Power Creep
willow vault
I don’t think Pangoro ever kept up with power creep
solid frigate
i feel like for me i would just trash about how Greninja fallen from Grace in Ge...
too frail,no good setup moves despite being mediocre offense,Protean Sucks now,Battle Bond is Banned in VGC
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too frail,no good setup moves despite being mediocre offense,Protean Sucks now,B...
It’s unlikely battle bond would even be particularly good anyway
solid frigate
It’s unlikely battle bond would even be particularly good anyway
if its gen 7 Battle Bond+Gen 9 stat boost,then we can talk
Gen 7 battle bond is alright but its only good in singles
willow vault
It would almost never get to use its ability due to double targeting requiring lots of protection when other water types just outclass it
solid frigate
It would almost never get to use its ability due to double targeting requiring l...
and Flutter Mane is strictly better than Greninja as Special Attacker
if Greninja starts as Ash Greninja,We Can talk consider its sp attack stat is Kyogre's but 3 point better
autumn vault
Okidogi on sand seems weird
Cybetron has made a video on that team
willow vault
Still weird to me
solid frigate
the entire Loyal 3 is weird
willow vault
if Greninja starts as Ash Greninja,We Can talk consider its sp attack stat is Ky...
But it doesn’t so hypotheticals don’t really matter here
solid frigate
But it doesn’t so hypotheticals don’t really matter here
i just hope one day Legends ZA give Kalos Starter Mega Forms so they become relevant once again
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i just hope one day Legends ZA give Kalos Starter Mega Forms so they become rele...
I agree
willow vault
i just hope one day Legends ZA give Kalos Starter Mega Forms so they become rele...
It will probably be like Incineroar, Serperior and Ferligator for the starter options you get and the new mega forms
solid frigate
It will probably be like Incineroar, Serperior and Ferligator for the starter op...
if Kalos starters did not get a Mega form i would just confused why
autumn vault
My predictions for the starters are: Tepig, Sobble and Chikorita
willow vault
if Kalos starters did not get a Mega form i would just confused why
Look at the starters for the first legends game, that was the reason behind my logic
molten oasis
autumn vault
We saw it before
molten oasis
It’s new
solid frigate
i might bring out mine hold on
willow vault
Nice list
solid frigate
ill be back with mine hold on
molten oasis
Then top 10 has changed, notably Prima and Bolt took over Gambit and I believe meow
willow vault
All I can say is Urshifu is no where near top 10 for me
willow vault
I like shifu, shifu is cool
Me don’t like shifu, shifu makes me sad
solid frigate
i am so obsessed with Archaludon-
autumn vault
My list (pretend Zekrom is my favourite legend instead of ogerpon)
molten oasis
My god
willow vault
That’s a lot
solid frigate
Archaludon is cool
like its one of the best
solid frigate
That’s a lot
mine
molten oasis
I forgot about that, and idt I’m gonna do that one cuz like 4 things will change on it
That’s the shiny list oops
autumn vault
My favourite shiny list
molten oasis
Basic isn’t bad
autumn vault
True
solid frigate
Basic isn’t bad
i mean compare to some other fans,i'm less basic than them but still
molten oasis
I do generally try not to do repeats
When I do these
So like, if there’s certain forms I only pick the one I like more
But that’s a personal thing
Like gen 6 I didn’t use megas cuz I thought it was kinda cheating
solid frigate
technically i should give gen5 normal slot to Cinccino cuz someone named her Cinccino as my name
molten oasis
That’s cool
autumn vault
Nice
solid frigate
solid frigate
That’s cool
its a shiny as well
autumn vault
Anyways i have to go, bye
willow vault
Bruh the washing machine has been on 1 minute for like 5 minutes this is dogshit
solid frigate
F
solid frigate
Anyways i have to go, bye
see ya
willow vault
I just want my clothes back
willow vault
Anyways i have to go, bye
Cya
molten oasis
I want this lol
solid frigate
I want this lol
i need this boi
solid frigate
noice
i need to buy Terapagos Plushie so i can bring it in some tournaments for fun
solid frigate
same but with Terapagos
solid frigate
If I go to NAIC I’ll probably pick up a zacian plush
plus i think if you choose zacian as your restricted i think its better than mine restricted Mons
molten oasis
Dude