competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

lets try that then maybe i wont 0-2 again

[ember linden]

Alr

[molten oasis]

send it again had to reload page

[autumn vault]

Zama did like 60% of damage to my 96/160 Bolt once, if it got body press in gen 8 and behemoth bash used the defense stat, it would me just as infamous as Zacian

[molten oasis]

THAT WORKED GREAT DIDNT IT

[ember linden]

😭

[molten oasis]

gg im done fuck this game

literally tell me to do a lead then COUNTER THE LEAD

[ember linden]

I was gonna lead that regardless

[cold depot]

Hello!

[ember linden]

That’s how I’d adjust in a tournament setting

[autumn vault]

Hello

[molten oasis]

great, im done, this team is ass, gg, im gonna go do homework and i never want to see a fucking zamazenta again

[ember linden]

Ggs

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

You didn't have to make Drago smack his head onto a wall

[ember linden]

He did that not me

He was not ready for the Zama Zama

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

I will run a special attacker with a super effective hit on Zamazenta so that way i dont get tortured like Drago

[molten oasis]

thats craaaaaaaaazy

[molten oasis]

I TRIED THAT

IT DIDNT FUCKING WORK

[ember linden]

Tera fire

[autumn vault]

You definetely hate Zamazenta after that

[molten oasis]

sorry, im mad, bye, fuck zama it can die in a hole

what does snow do againt it? fucking nothing

it loses

[autumn vault]

Add Xerneas, Zacian and Miraidon onto that pit

[pliant kelp]

is there a counter to zamzeta in showdown OU? I feel like whenever it enters the game it just spams iron defense and then auto wins, its so frustrating

[molten oasis]

oh zacian, great, thats all im fucking using from now on

no point in experimentation lets just use the broken things

dont ask me about reg g until it happens, playing was a mistake

[ember linden]

Bro you win some you lose some chill

Just the game we play

[molten oasis]

i lost every fucking game

its not you win some you lose that was you lose all and i can cry about it

[timber falcon]

drago u good?

[ember linden]

Half of them were close games

[molten oasis]

no they werent

[autumn vault]

He got beaten down by a Zamazenta hard, really hard

[timber falcon]

why is zacian being spoken of? reg G out?

[molten oasis]

everytime i got even remotely close i missplayed

[timber falcon]

ouch

[molten oasis]

EVERY TIME

i am mad at my performance

[timber falcon]

what format

[molten oasis]

that mu is dogshit

[autumn vault]

Single restricted i think

[molten oasis]

so yea, you win, you played better and had a much better mu end of story

[timber falcon]

probs ou then? i forgot which one zama is in

[ember linden]

Me and Dray played a match of reg-g doubles single restricted just now

[timber falcon]

reg-g double single???'

[ember linden]

Fair enough, just say “wait I’m goated every time you make a really good or really bad play” and move on

[timber falcon]

ohhh 1 restricted mon

[ember linden]

Shit worked numbers for me

[molten oasis]

sure, cuz thats how my brain works

[autumn vault]

Breaking news:A zamazenta player beat down an A9 fan way too hard, to the point of being more toxic than Lavos after his last tournament

Apologies if i offended anyone (I feel bad for Drago)

[ember linden]

Lavos 😭

[cold depot]

Does anyone want to battle?

[ember linden]

I’m down it depends on the format

[autumn vault]

I am down

If its restricted then no

[cold depot]

it is not restricted

[autumn vault]

Ok sure

Username is Lycopoky Slimesy

[cold depot]

ok

how about the code be 64972349

[ember linden]

I don’t feel like setting up my switch

[autumn vault]

I can set it up

[molten oasis]

sorry, im upset, ggs. ill make this team better i am willing to play reg g stuff just, not for the rest of the day

probably

[ember linden]

Alr

[cold depot]

single or double battle

[autumn vault]

Double

[cold depot]

ok

what code?

[ember linden]

Have you ever tried working on not getting so mad at yourself? I’m not trying to offend you it would just increase performance.

[autumn vault]

3579

[molten oasis]

what else do i get mad at

[autumn vault]

I am Lycopoky

[cold depot]

user name is Theodore

[molten oasis]

i cant just vent against my opponent and tell him to fuck off

[ember linden]

You’ve gotten mad at something like every time we played and I won

[molten oasis]

uh huh

im aware

[cold depot]

is this it?

[ember linden]

I’m just wondering if you’ve tried to pick up the gg go next mindset

[molten oasis]

yea, gg go next mindset when i lose 9 times

[autumn vault]

Yes

[molten oasis]

my brain doesnt work like that. ive tried something like that

[autumn vault]

Enter only 4 pokemon pls

[molten oasis]

i do not think that way and its hard to change it

[cold depot]

oh woops

[ember linden]

I’m sure there is room for improvement

[cold depot]

srry

[molten oasis]

sure

[cold depot]

i’ll restart

[autumn vault]

Just use 4 out of the 6

[cold depot]

k

[autumn vault]

Use a 5th or 6th member and spam protect or keep switching

[cold depot]

we both used the same move

man your good

[molten oasis]

There’s always room for improvement, how do I fix the anger issues who knows

[autumn vault]

Remember when you bashed on a sand team?

This is the same one dunking on you

[cold depot]

o no

[mighty stump]

That's just dishonest play though, since you influenced the match

[ember linden]

He didn’t lead what I said his best lead was.

[cold depot]

ima run bc u won

[autumn vault]

Ggs Theosaurus_Rex

[cold depot]

u told me to use two

[autumn vault]

Dont give up

[molten oasis]

Yea, because I had a feeling you would counter said lead

[cold depot]

can i use these two?

[molten oasis]

and yku did

[autumn vault]

Yes

[cold depot]

ok

[ember linden]

I’m not disputing that

[cold depot]

noooo

uhh

[autumn vault]

I forgot to tera drill to dragon

[ember linden]

Still dishonest play but I still wanted to say that you have a good lead

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/1883c21bf1054d6f team no.4 , is this any good?

[cold depot]

gg?

[molten oasis]

You can’t tell me how to lead then counter the lead and call it a tournament adjustment, like that was messed up man

IN a game 2 or 3 yes

AFTER we discuss the match, like wtf

[autumn vault]

Why is the amoonguss named cockroach when heatran is on he same team?

[ember linden]

I’m talking game 2 or 3

I can’t adjust g1

[molten oasis]

Dude

[timber falcon]

good point

[molten oasis]

We discussed the first bo3

[autumn vault]

I won the 4v4 but you won the 4v6

[cold depot]

wanna go again? i’ll do a diff team

[molten oasis]

You said lead shifu kyurem

Then you countered that lead second bo3

[cold depot]

and only 4 pokemon

[autumn vault]

Sure

[ember linden]

I said your best lead is shifu kyureum

[autumn vault]

Same link code

[cold depot]

double battle again right?

[ember linden]

I meant that as you should have began with it

[autumn vault]

Yes

[cold depot]

ok

[ember linden]

I didn’t want to deal with incin fake-outing my incin so I lead Rilla + Zama

[autumn vault]

4v4

[cold depot]

ok

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[cold depot]

ok done

[molten oasis]

I’m not gonna lead shifu when rilla and bolt are on your team

[cold depot]

i chose 4 pokemon

[autumn vault]

Me too

[molten oasis]

Why tf would i do rhat

Like I’m not gonna try to immediately lose my shifu

[cold depot]

LES DO DIS

[ember linden]

Would’ve been better had we done ots

[molten oasis]

mhmm

[ember linden]

You have an incin you can pivot too, it just denies me free settup if I didn’t lead one of my fakeout guys

[cold depot]

WORM IS DOWN

[ember linden]

Whether you believe it or not my mind wasn’t on countering your best lead. I’m sorry for accidentally setting up that train of thought.

[molten oasis]

It’s fine, it sure felt that way

[autumn vault]

Excadrill wall arch's stabs and bolt

[molten oasis]

But it’s fine

[ember linden]

Now I’m trying to think of good Zacian counters 😭

[molten oasis]

Gholdengo

[ember linden]

Bro I’m dumb

[cold depot]

man

[molten oasis]

Gholdengo walls it

[autumn vault]

Crunch but it never runs it

[ember linden]

Idk how long I’d take to figure that out-

[molten oasis]

Gholdengo and like, shifu

[cold depot]

LETS DO DIS

[molten oasis]

What zacian is running crunch

[ember linden]

That’s so nice for a balance team too

[molten oasis]

I like dengo

He’s awesome

[ember linden]

Idk if I need flutter necessarily

[cold depot]

BRUH

[autumn vault]

How did excadrill survive that

[timber falcon]

🤝

[ember linden]

It’s either bolt or flutter that I’d drop

[autumn vault]

Its on 1 hp

[cold depot]

IM SO DONE NOW

OH NO

GG

[autumn vault]

Ggs

[cold depot]

Im better in singles anyway

[autumn vault]

I beat a restricted without any restricted legends

Now that is something

[timber falcon]

how many restricted

[autumn vault]

0

Theosaurus was using 1

[timber falcon]

which was?

[autumn vault]

Terapagos

[timber falcon]

oh damn

[molten oasis]

Over flutter imo

[ember linden]

That’s what I took off

[cold depot]

ima go shiny hunt wooper now

[autumn vault]

Well i will go make another sand team

A 3rd one, i have another regigigas team to get over with

[timber falcon]

anyone have an item idea on heatran that isnt life orb?

[autumn vault]

AV is a good one

[timber falcon]

oh yeah forgot about that

oh wait rilla has that

[mighty stump]

Lefties.

[timber falcon]

would sitrus-lefties work?

oh ok lefties it is

https://pokepast.es/c68edd2159e28b61 this is the team then, anything wrong with it?

btw wouldnt raging bolt technically be a scarf ogre counter?

[pearl wind]

i think with leftovers you either want 72EVs or 204EVs in HP for heatran to optimize your regeneration via Terrain + Leftovers (1/16 per turn, HP at 72EVs or 204EVs gives you numbers that you can divide by 16)

[molten oasis]

I don’t like palafin but it looks ok

[timber falcon]

good enought for me

[timber falcon]

ok thanks for the advice

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to .alyz.

[mighty stump]

I am not a fan of how that team is structured

Forced switch without something like Intimidate just feels so poorly

[timber falcon]

hmm so an intimidator would be nice?

[molten oasis]

Incin over hestran could be solid

why are heatran and eleki on this team?

What exactly do that do?

Like torn looks solid for speed control and then incin is incin

[timber falcon]

ive tried both on the team but heatran tends to do me solid justice here, and leki is here cause of speedy webs which helps palafin a lot, whilst being able to OHKO lando-i

[autumn vault]

Incin over heatran is a solid relacement that upgrades the team

[molten oasis]

You can do torn

Yiu tried incin and didn’t like incin but liked heatran?

[timber falcon]

yeah pretty much, incin lacked the offence i wanted

whilst having tankyness

[molten oasis]

Harc

Just add harc

[autumn vault]

We bringing back palance with this

[molten oasis]

It’s the same thing but overall stronger and intimidate

[timber falcon]

oh yeah harc exists

[molten oasis]

Offensive pressure

[autumn vault]

How did you forget H-arc? You teambuilded with one several times

[timber falcon]

🤷‍♂️

just didnt think

[molten oasis]

Heatran is not really relevant rn and I’d say to some degree harc is

[timber falcon]

i did at some point challenge heatrans viability reg f, but now im wondering why it doesnt work

[mighty stump]

I also highly dislike the fact you don't really have Goggles so your Spore immunities are forced to double-grass types without blowing Tera

[molten oasis]

I’m not even sure why tbh. Like incins a better fire type

Heatran is pretty awful inti lando i tho

[mighty stump]

You also have Adamant SpA Eleki

[timber falcon]

ah

[timber falcon]

is goggles needed on all teams? i felt like ursh with a lil help could thwart amoongus

[molten oasis]

Goggles helps especially since you don’t have ogerpon

[mighty stump]

No Goggles on an attempted Balance team that doesn't have Taunt or something is almost like trolling imo

[molten oasis]

You need amoonguss answers

[mighty stump]

The flow gets disrupted really hard

[timber falcon]

yeah now that i look more spore causes me some trouble

is it possible for heatran to hold em?

[molten oasis]

Harc should but yea

I like harc more since you want offensive in that spot and then you have a fire type to finish the fwg core

[timber falcon]

if heatran does fail me ill transfer to harc

[molten oasis]

Alr

[mighty stump]

Goggles on Heatran also fine

[timber falcon]

hopefully 4th times the charm

[molten oasis]

It’s not a great Mon, the struggle is real

[mighty stump]

Urshifu outclasses it

lol

[molten oasis]

Yea

[timber falcon]

yeah but im determined this time and i cant stop now

[molten oasis]

And like

Rilla and bolt also ruin its life

Tbf bolt ruins like, everyone’s lives lol

Except lando

I’m down to do a bo3 if you want to give it a shot

[timber falcon]

yeah sure why not

[molten oasis]

Cool

User?

[timber falcon]

Totorules

[ember linden]

I’m down for a reg-f bo3 if anyone wants to

[molten oasis]

My Bax is supposed to have ice shard

[timber falcon]

yeha that woulda win u the game

[molten oasis]

You mind if we run that back?

[timber falcon]

sorry i have some revision to do as i got some gcse coming up, when im done ill be back

[molten oasis]

Alr

Besides my paste error snow hasn’t been nice to me today lol

[whole ibex]

I hate this bear partially cause of it lol

[molten oasis]

I don’t, I hated palafin

[ember linden]

Midfin

[timber falcon]

btw came back to say drago for more accurate terms ill be back by 9pm London time

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-21732737

[next stump]

if flutter mane uses tera stellar, is it still immune to fake out? I'm pretty sure right?

[ember linden]

Yes

Stellar keeps your original typing

[next stump]

nice, thank you

[ember linden]

You got it

[molten oasis]

Idk when that is but ok

https://pokepast.es/6b3b130b73731f43 anyway next kyurem thing I’m trying

[timber falcon]

2h 25min

[molten oasis]

Think tw will help kyurem a lot

[ember linden]

I randomly decided to try random battle doubles and I’m undefeated 😭

[dull ibex]

Hello comp chat

[autumn vault]

Gigachild

[atomic mural]

bro I fought this calyrex-shadow team and all they did was spam follow me astral barrage and then rage quit after I made a good play

actual babies playing calyrex-shadow

bro someone rage quit again

[sharp cobalt]

Understandable

[ember linden]

Can’t wait for that thing to become legal

[autumn vault]

Where did you battle them?

[atomic mural]

in game casual battles

[autumn vault]

Oh right

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2088956941

Bax is better

[sharp cobalt]

Dance doggie

[autumn vault]

Nice

Early look at the team i will post in rental teams (after March, the GC3 is a priority, besides bolt is locked to a team for the GC and it has the wrong spread)

[atomic mural]

BRO THEY ALWAYS RAGE QUIT WHENEVER I MAKE A GOOD PLAY

[autumn vault]

🧂

[atomic mural]

all I did was detect my iron hands and tera fairy and they rage quit

[autumn vault]

Wtf

[atomic mural]

ig they doubled into it

i was at +2 attack as well as quark drive boost

nope

[autumn vault]

Well you would have won

[atomic mural]

yeah

[violet anchor]

hey, whats the website everyone uses for pvp
i cant remember what is it called

[atomic mural]

they actually used sacred sword on my iron hands and dragon pulsed my miraidon

[mighty stump]

Showdown

-comp links

[gentle crag]

Competitive Links

Below are some helpful websites for competitive Pokémon battling.

Damage Calculator

Click here for Pokémon Showdown's damage calculator -- useful for figuring out EV spreads.

Showdown Team Builder

Click here for Pokémon Showdown's team builder tool -- useful for easily composing and viewing teams and movesets.

PokePaste

Click here to share your team composition and moveset with clean formatting.

Pikalytics

Click here for a powerful statistics-based website to imporve your VGC knowledge with its own Teambuilder.

Marriland Team Builder

Click here for this online tool that shows defensive and offensive type coverage of your teams.

Help Command: -comp help

[atomic mural]

pokemon showdown

[sharp cobalt]

Rhea and Seteth. I recognize those names. FE3H?

[autumn vault]

Yes

[mighty stump]

Well, it's not like Casual Battle is representative of Ranked/proper pvp

[atomic mural]

ik but people still have good teams

[sharp cobalt]

Yeah good point. Ppl are muuch saltier in ranked

[mighty stump]

Unlikely

Theres higher likelihood those teams are poorly EV'd/inefficient items/improper teras

and player quality is also poorer

[atomic mural]

I have seen like at least 3 good teams that arent allowed in reg F

like yesterday i saw an actual kyogre team

and an actual calyrex team (it was the one that rage quit but I digress)

[mighty stump]

But again, if your metric of "good team" is just purely based off the roster without knowing the full picture

[autumn vault]

Damn

[mighty stump]

It's 🤷‍♂️

[atomic mural]

ig you're right

[tough idol]

Break time lmao. 4 hours of resetting for another 0spd Bloodmoon

[autumn vault]

I will follow this fate soon

[atomic mural]

I did just fight a tera normal helping hand population bomb team and kept using follow me even though I was using spread moves

[autumn vault]

I will get a 0 speed iv Blood Moon for my team i will post in the future

[tough idol]

No longer Zekrom Lord I see

[sharp cobalt]

Is your profile picture just a black dot

[tough idol]

It is

[sharp cobalt]

Neat

[autumn vault]

I will return to it in the restricted format

For now i embrace sand and regigigas

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2088974723 my brother in Christ why did you click tclap that many times

[sharp cobalt]

Maybe choiced

[autumn vault]

Nah they didn't have a second thought

[atomic mural]

Did you guys know if you have 3 Pokémon left and one of them uses parting shot and one faints you can reset intimidate and fake out

[molten oasis]

that team doesnt have choice locked bolt

[autumn vault]

Yes

[molten oasis]

so like, im very confused

[autumn vault]

We did sherlock

[molten oasis]

i think i won there anyway unless he crit tho

[atomic mural]

No like one faint and one uses parting shot the same turn

[molten oasis]

yea

[autumn vault]

We did

[atomic mural]

Ah i see

[molten oasis]

The team so far is solid but I’m learning that I need to bring both Bax and dengo to the calm mind bolt mu

I need to put pressure on that spot cuz rn I don’t when it Tera fairy

[ember linden]

It’s the cm set

His only out there was you fumbling and letting him tclap

[molten oasis]

yea, which wasnt gonna happen lol

oh its calm mind on that team? i swear it was av

[ember linden]

Yeah that was his best shot

[molten oasis]

yea true, he needed a crit basically

also its av

so he could have t-bolted (not that it would have matter without a crit)

[ember linden]

You don’t know that

I’m just giving him the benefit of the doubt

[molten oasis]

i can assume

its the exact same 6 as the regional winning team, harc was banded with tera ghost, i think it was that team. i could be wrong who knows

might not do protect on a9, helping hand sounds interesting ngl

[ember linden]

I would keep protect

The mind game is fantastic

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Hmm, yea

It’s something to keep in mind tbo

Not like Bax needs the boost it ohkos like, everything without helping hand

[solid frigate]

Lets just say Attack stat is amazing

[molten oasis]

Although ngl the random Tera steels are pain

Lost to an iron head shifu and a Tera steel lando

[autumn vault]

Should have come prepared for steel type

[solid frigate]

wait Lando i kinda do expect it to be steel but Iron Head Urshifu? that exists?

[molten oasis]

The Tera steel lando isn’t that out there but I don’t expect iron head at all

[molten oasis]

Well like, I’m considering harc rn

2 of my mons need set up and the other just

[bold geode]

Harc funny

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t do a ton of damage

[autumn vault]

Alolan Ninetales?

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon does good damage but sometimes it’s defiently not enough

Ogerpon and a9 are mostly support

[solid frigate]

Kinda only Hearthflame does that

[molten oasis]

And then incin

[solid frigate]

thats why Ogerpon is kinda hard to play

[molten oasis]

Although adding harc makes psyspam mu kinda ass

Not that wisp incin does that much into it

[solid frigate]

the thing is,Cornerstone's Typing is not bad,its just the ability SUCKS For Ogerpon

[autumn vault]

Also, why do people run wisp incin?

[molten oasis]

But I also have gholdengoat

[molten oasis]

Wisp is good

[solid frigate]

to burn some offensive threats like say Urshifu

[molten oasis]

It’s a physical attackers meta

[autumn vault]

I see

[solid frigate]

wisped Urshifu basically deal lesser damage

[molten oasis]

Knock off beyond doing damage is really only helpful for something like, goggles

[solid frigate]

yeah

[molten oasis]

I’ve found wisp more useful

[solid frigate]

but tbf it could have some use of preventing Berry Held Pokemon to can't heal back

[molten oasis]

Yea at times I’ve missed it but wisp has been really helpful when I needed it

Although missing it hurts, lost a game to that

[solid frigate]

agreed,i feel like i want to use Will-o-Wisp but i just afraid of missing so i just use Knock off for at least some leverage

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[solid frigate]

i might as well stick with that

[next stump]

wisp is really nice into stuff like Kingambit, Ting-Lu, etc

stuff that you can burn before it moves

you can also self-wisp your ally if they’re a special attacker to give them spore immunity

tyranitar as well

[autumn vault]

Now you know how Aaron Zheng feels

[molten oasis]

Ok

But he missed like, all of his lol

And then they buffed it’s accuracy

[autumn vault]

I have more braincells than Aaron Zheng landed will-o-wisps

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[solid frigate]

oh yeah-

thats painfull

[atomic mural]

I have never missed a move that has mattered (don’t fact check that)

[fiery escarp]

https://pokepast.es/c51f21d2349d5a32

this is definitely an OU team because it has an OU mon

(source: trust me bro)

[molten oasis]

i want to because that sounds like cap

[molten oasis]

is this singles?

help is more limited for singles here

[fiery escarp]

against specifically urshifu? maybe boots or a choiced item?

[atomic mural]

have you seen me miss a hydro pump ever?

an icywind?

[molten oasis]

ive never seen you click it

[fiery escarp]

yeah I'm too lazy to play doubles

[atomic mural]

darn

[fiery escarp]

doubles takes a different mindset that i do not have

[molten oasis]

icy wind rarely misses

[fiery escarp]

95%

[molten oasis]

fair

oh, corny wanna do a bo3?

[atomic mural]

suire

[molten oasis]

cool, user?

[atomic mural]

in game or showdown

[molten oasis]

showdown

[atomic mural]

ok

[molten oasis]

i dont have anything built ingame

[fiery escarp]

I should prolly make a doubles team but most of my favorites are basically singles exclusive

[atomic mural]

reg f or restricted

[molten oasis]

Restricted

[atomic mural]

ok

whats your name on showdown again?

[molten oasis]

Dr4ydr4go1

[atomic mural]

can we do open team sheet

[molten oasis]

Yea, also I’m on my phone so

[solid frigate]

Great ball tier nice

[atomic mural]

ah

[molten oasis]

I’ll send that and then I won’t be able to text in discord

https://pokepast.es/d42b8b4ddf61341f

[atomic mural]

thats fine

https://pokepast.es/03649e285a886292

[autumn vault]

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 100 SpD Eviolite Magmar: 61-73 (35.4 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 164+ Def Eviolite Magmar on a critical hit: 150-186 (87.2 - 108.1%) -- approx. 18.8% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 164+ Def Eviolite Magmar: 114-135 (66.2 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Magmar in Electric Terrain: 105-124 (61 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 164+ Def Eviolite Magmar: 140-168 (81.3 - 97.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Damn magmar is a great follow me eviolite pokemon

[molten oasis]

@atomic mural ggs

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/2a09218a72c5070c also 6th member suggestions?

[molten oasis]

Hmm

Lando I

[atomic mural]

gg

[autumn vault]

I was going to say dragonite but its also a dragon type

[solid frigate]

anyways time to ask trade for Raging bolt,but cost me of a Shiny

[molten oasis]

Wdyt of the team?

[atomic mural]

its good I just hate mirror armor

[molten oasis]

I’m trying out corv rn since I was suggested tw ti help kyurem output damage

Yea, the parting shot is so weird

[solid frigate]

i might regret trade my spare shiny Noivern for Raging Bolt-

[molten oasis]

It still switches you out but then nerfs your damage

Effectively doing nothing lol

[atomic mural]

can we go again (I played horrible)

[autumn vault]

Anyone want to Bo3? Restricted format or unrestricted whatever you want

[atomic mural]

actually sure

[solid frigate]

i AM STILL GETTING RAGING BOLT

[autumn vault]

what is wrong @atomic mural ?

[atomic mural]

i had the wrong team version

[autumn vault]

oh right

well i also had a move that was wrong

[solid frigate]

my lord idk what the fu am i doing now-

[molten oasis]

Sorry I have math rn

[atomic mural]

darn

[molten oasis]

So I can go again after my test

Gimme like, an hour (if you’re still up for it)

[autumn vault]

Ggs @atomic mural

[atomic mural]

yeah ggs

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen94v4doublesdraft-2089030938 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen94v4doublesdraft-2089033224 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen94v4doublesdraft-2089035774

that was a pretty fun set

[solid frigate]

imagine i still don't get Raging bolt after restricted format-

[autumn vault]

That burn match 2 mattered a lot

Why i picked magmar

[atomic mural]

yeah

[autumn vault]

Magmar helps against physical attackers and is redirection, with eviolite and a specific investment i gave it it can survive powerful hits from restricteds and with helping hand and overheat, it can help with damage output

[solid frigate]

yep time to do even worse,sending Shiny Latias to someone for Raging Bolt

[craggy dagger]

you can fire blood moon off twice without recharge

at least-
it should work like that...

[autumn vault]

With instruct? I tested it and it worked

Oh sorry i deleted the message because i thought you were offline

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-discord-gif-24306382

[autumn vault]

I know that

Rematch tomorrow?

[atomic mural]

sure

[autumn vault]

Rn i am too busy, and i have to change some things too

Tomorrow i plan to play a switch game, grind the kitakami dex and test

I can fit it in the schedule

[atomic mural]

you got your day planned

[craggy dagger]

not instruct but that works yeah

encore also works but you'll have to use struggle-

[modern pebble]

What would be considered the best monotypes this gen?

[solid frigate]

Terapagos,There are few candidates,I think Cresslia is really good

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/K1PT_pvVwms?si=-QeNzECJPMbNLRzj

[atomic mural]

bro i just got that in my recommended

[solid frigate]

FINALLY

RAGING BOLT

Time to do the thing

[autumn vault]

Looks like Marco and i agree on something:We fucking hate flutter mane

[atomic mural]

bro this kid online was running bright power sand veil garchomp

actually crazy

[foggy lodge]

• gets intimidated + parting shot *

[solid frigate]

i think i saw this team

Tera Fire?

[autumn vault]

Just use life orb or rocky helmet, not that

[solid frigate]

i think what they are gonna do is to rely on evasion

[molten oasis]

Game 3 t1 was kinda bad lol

[autumn vault]

Relying on evasion is never that good

[solid frigate]

DRAGO I FINALLY GOT THE BOLT

[autumn vault]

Congrats

[molten oasis]

Game 3 that flinch on miraidon endgame was lucky asf lol

[solid frigate]

time to EV train it

[molten oasis]

And also yku needed to go for sucker punch the turn after

If incin went for fake out on shifu the game was over

Good games tho, fun watch

[autumn vault]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed seeing them

Personally i enjoyed them myself

[silver ravine]

Hot take, but I hope paradox pokemon aren't in the new games. Mainly due to Flutter Mane

[autumn vault]

I second this

Fucker Mane must be deleted for good

[molten oasis]

We probably won’t get then at least at first

[solid frigate]

probably Won't but Koraidon and Miraidon might

[molten oasis]

Anyway, anyone wanna reg g bo3?

Now that I’m not taking a test

[solid frigate]

I mean idk

[silver ravine]

I'm willing to take Koraidon and Miraidon over the paradox mons

[molten oasis]

I think miraidon is worse than flutter ngl

At least atm

[silver ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-the-rock-eyebrow-dwayne-johnson-gif-13470485

[molten oasis]

K here’s the thing

Miraidon is 1, bulkier than flutter

[atomic mural]

they didnt tera

[molten oasis]

2, hits harder than fluttermane

[atomic mural]

they did have a pressure kingambit though

[molten oasis]

3 they’re the same speed but bundle will be a common partner

I think

Meaning bundle can icy wind si flutter isn’t an issue

[silver ravine]

To be fair Miraidon is a legendary mon. Flutter and co are just abominations

[atomic mural]

team is fire🔥 🔥 🔥

[molten oasis]

Or reg f

[molten oasis]

Yea but still, in the current format I think incin is better than flutter

[silver ravine]

Incin may as well be a legendary with how busted it is

[atomic mural]

i love switching in miraidon to turn off priority grassy glide

[solid frigate]

my team is finally complete

[silver ravine]

I wonder how Ogerpon is going to work going forward. Guessing you can trade it over with one mask equipped and then trade over other mon(s) with the other mask(s)

[solid frigate]

back to Area Zero to Get Booster for Bolt

[atomic mural]

ogerpon water i think is gonna still be the best for countering kyogre AND groudon at the same time

[silver ravine]

Right I had mean't future Pokemon games.

[atomic mural]

ah

I think the 20% mask boost is enough

[silver ravine]

Don't you need the mask for the second typing though?

[molten oasis]

So I’m guessing they just don’t have access to embody aspect (I think?)

And the masks are just form changes

They’re like zacian and zama’s sword and shield

[atomic mural]

but the no item form is still decent

[molten oasis]

It’s decent

I still think it’s the worst of the 4

Mostly cuz cornerstone has a solid niche on tr teams

[solid frigate]

the only problem is no other Moves cuz Cudgel is Grass

[molten oasis]

Yea

You miss out on fire water or rock stab

Pure grass is resisted by a good chunk of things

Dragon, fire, poison, flying, and bug I believe

[solid frigate]

and we mean good Chunk,we mean a lot

[silver ravine]

Which is a shame as it's the best fire/grass and water/grass mon out there. At least what we have for gen 9

[solid frigate]

Steel

[dapper crag]

Grass

Hits for 0.5x

Bug, Dragon, Fire, Flying, Grass, Poison, Steel

Hits for 1x

Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar

Hits for 2x

Ground, Rock, Water

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

Steel and itself

And in return only hit 3 for SE

[dapper crag]

- [Grass]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Grass, Ground, Water

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Fire, Flying, Ice, Poison

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[silver ravine]

For someone interested in VGC, but has no interest in reg G, what should I be doing? Getting potential mons bred for the next game?

[molten oasis]

I guess

[silver ravine]

[molten oasis]

Wait for legends za

[solid frigate]

i am still so happy about it

but everything will dash away if Incineroar had a Mega

[silver ravine]

How is legends za going to for vgc? If I remember correctly, Sword & Shield was still the VGC game during Arcecus

[pallid hare]

it probably wont be

it'll likely be more of a purely single-player game like Legends Arceus

[solid frigate]

because Future Kalos Remakes will make Tournaments

it happened in BDSP

[pallid hare]

yeah, but BDSP was never used for VGC

and we likely wont be getting a more straightforward Kalos remake

[solid frigate]

we ain't sure if Gamefreaks makes a mainline game with Megas again

[foggy lodge]

If the game adds mega only to be used against npcs i'm going to be on the news i swear

[pallid hare]

Well, look at it like this; the way Legends Arceus set itself up makes it somewhat ill-suited to competitive, given the emphasis on catching and documenting Pokemon as its plot; I wouldn't be surprised if Z-A would be only a single-player title (with a minor trade element) given its purposed emphasis on urban development. That said, however, we could see new things from Z-A in the following game after Z-A, whatever that may be. Much like how SV had the Hisui Pokemon all available to use, whatever game following Z-A might also feature Megas (especially if new ones are added in Z-A)

[next stump]

are you interested in any restricted format?

cause if not, you’re looking at a 2 year wait probably

[silver ravine]

Yikes. Guess I'll learn to love restricted then

[next stump]

I wish they did more low power level formats

[cyan smelt]

I wish series 1 and 2 lasted longer

[hazy terrace]

Yo who wanna battle

[foggy lodge]

God please a series A 2 with the mon added in the dlc

Like Whimsicott

Whimsicott finally not being 99% outclassed by Tornadus!!!

[cyan smelt]

Whimsicott is still good for beat up shenanigans

[molten oasis]

Why do I see 100 handshake fist everytime I walk in here

[foggy lodge]

Because we are such a healthy community

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/dcbda094461efe7e would this be a good groudon team

[lofty tartan]

Right off the cuff, Tera Fire looks better on Walking Wake than Water - gives a resistance to Fairy and boosts Flamethrower damage. I've been playing Groudon a bit lately.

[atomic mural]

i just wanna boost the most out of hydro steam possible

[lofty tartan]

Raging Bolt is one of the best partners for Groudon you'll find. Pressures Kyogre.

[lofty tartan]

It already has a stab and Sun boost, with Life Orb.

You don't get bonus points for overkills.

Tera Fire is gonna let you use Flamethrower to pick up biggers KOs - pretty sure it needs Tera Fire to KO Amoonguss, too.

[atomic mural]

who would I remove for raging bolt

[lofty tartan]

Honestly I'm not 100% sure I like Indeedee here.

https://pokebin.com/d7260b2d7fd9e27d

This is what I was playing for Groudon - I'd sometimes swap Incineroar for Farigiraf

Recently I actually swappeed Lorb off Venu, back to Wake, and gave Venu a Covert Cloak

Took off Protect for Sleep Powder.

[molten oasis]

deedee

you handle miraidon fine with gorudon and venu

[lofty tartan]

He's not playing Venu

[molten oasis]

wait wrong paste lmao

[lofty tartan]

[molten oasis]

groudon and wake

and flutter

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I think Indeedee is weakest link.

[molten oasis]

looks out of place

wouldnt you want power gem for incin and ogerpon?

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna be honest - I've never picked up a significant KO with Power Gem Flutter Mane 😐

[molten oasis]

on a sun team it picks up kos

ik, ive watched my guys weak to rocks explode

[craggy dagger]

gem flutter is something that does wonders if used right but its not that used atm TwT

[lofty tartan]

252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Incineroar: 128-152 (63.3 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

😐

[molten oasis]

i think gem is for sun teams that utilize special attack boost

ok incin is incin

[craggy dagger]

incin do be incin though xD

[lofty tartan]

I've used Power Gem a lot on Flutter, and yeah, it's just never done more work for me than a Moonblast.

[molten oasis]

its more like, ogerpon or torn ig

ig

cant say the same when fighting it

[lofty tartan]

252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 228 HP / 12 SpD Ogerpon-Wellspring: 72-85 (39.1 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[molten oasis]

hearthflame

[lofty tartan]

252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 204 HP / 4 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 146-172 (80.6 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

damn

[lofty tartan]

These are just sets from the showdown damage calc

252 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 146-172 (94.1 - 110.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

huh

well, lemme check something

[craggy dagger]

whats a frail mon in the meta-

[molten oasis]

220 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 244 HP / 60 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 130-154 (72.6 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO man

[lofty tartan]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Incineroar: 182-216 (90 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

i watched my a9 get ohkoed by this today now im very very confused

[craggy dagger]

did it crit?

[molten oasis]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Power Gem vs. 244 HP / 60 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 146-172 (81.5 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

i dont think so

[craggy dagger]

strange

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it OHKOs my Tales outside of Veil too

But I'm only running like 84/4

[molten oasis]

that doesnt have veil

oh less bulk lol

[craggy dagger]

good to know...
+1 252+ Atk Silk Scarf Technician Ambipom Fake Out vs. -1 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 127-151 (72.1 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[lofty tartan]

Yeah. Needed more speed there.

[molten oasis]

oh

there was a helping hand, thats what it was

well-

[craggy dagger]

ah that would make sense

[lofty tartan]

Oh yeah Helping Hand will deffo do it

[molten oasis]

no yea thats wha it was

fun

sun teams have been annoying for bax and a9

the dragons and bolt mostly causing issues

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Sun is a natural enemy for Snow teams

[molten oasis]

mostly bolt, god

[lofty tartan]

Honestly you don't like Sand teams a lot either

[molten oasis]

i love bolt, its awesome

it is such a pain to handle

[lofty tartan]

Them Rock Slides

[molten oasis]

im not as worried about snow since bax is neutral

and if i pivot correctly i can have shifu doing damage

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it's just a pain.

[molten oasis]

and then for sand i have gholdengoat and wellspring

[lofty tartan]

Weather Wars are always a pain.

[molten oasis]

yea

[lofty tartan]

The friggen head games

OH AM I GONNA PIVOT? You decide.

[molten oasis]

its not a bad team but i need to test it more to see if its good enough

baxtales has been very solid

[molten oasis]

lol true

i fought, a lot of sun teams today it was kind of annoying

[craggy dagger]

regidrago kinda fell off in this reg huh...

[molten oasis]

better dragons

[craggy dagger]

bolt and fire yeah

[cyan smelt]

Do u use alolan sandslash

[molten oasis]

no, alolan sandslash is garbage lol

[cyan smelt]

Oof

[molten oasis]

im using baxcalibur

here ill get the current paste

[lofty tartan]

OH HO HO https://pokebin.com/c8a627e8dd159834

[craggy dagger]

alolaslash can work but that 4x weak isnt doing any favours

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/cb49f0eaf977c37d

[craggy dagger]

ooo thats an interesting spread for a drago.
i kinda wanna make drago work again :<

[molten oasis]

i tried out lando but was suggested to use incin and wellspring over it

[lofty tartan]

This spread survives Choice Specs Dark Pulse from Chi-Yu

[craggy dagger]

oh dam

[molten oasis]

unforutnately lando t still hasnt found a place in a team

[lofty tartan]

Cause they're not gonna Heat Wave Drago

[craggy dagger]

i dont know what ive done...
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2089162796

[molten oasis]

was this a variant of the other team?

[cyan smelt]

Why not dragon dance instead of swords dance

[molten oasis]

you hit like a truck

plus with glaive rush, its better for bax to hit last

[lofty tartan]

Yup. This was candidate number 2 for GC3. Regidrago synergizes with Indeedee and Firepon and likes Veil 🤷

[molten oasis]

if bax hits last it is safer to deal damage the turn after with ice shard

thats also why no ddance, ice shard

you miss out on a lot of bulk with ddance

[molten oasis]

makes sense

[craggy dagger]

mmm...
this team kinda looks weird but i cant place my finger on it...
https://pokepast.es/0ad5a74a960f472e

[molten oasis]

it also has little attack invest since you generally dont need much

at +2 it hits plenty hard

[cyan smelt]

I wanna use skeledirge again

[molten oasis]

beyond the lando and gholdengo this team looks so passive

[lofty tartan]

I think I played against something like this recently. Honestly the Poison Tera Latias with Ice Beam was annoying

[molten oasis]

walling lando i is cool

[lofty tartan]

Stuck around and did stuff. Dislike.

[molten oasis]

fuck lando i, stupid ass genie

[craggy dagger]

true

[lofty tartan]

It's interesting that the Latias there has Rain Dance to promote 100% accurate Sandsear, but if Latias is bad or you don't get the dance it seems worse to NOT have EP

Plus EP hits like a runaway train

[molten oasis]

i remember when latias was meta for like, a week

then we learned its kinda mid

[craggy dagger]

i guess i could go EP and replace rain dance with recover or heal pulse?

[lofty tartan]

It's specifically pretty okay into Lando. You can force the Tera and Mist Ball it.

But against most other things it's middling

[molten oasis]

dragon psychic isnt a great typing and the rise of single strike ruined it

[craggy dagger]

or should i keep rain dance for the dengo?

[lofty tartan]

Agree. Dark types are value at the moment.

[molten oasis]

you dont need rain dance for dengo

dengo functions fine without rain and speed control, as you have wellspring

[craggy dagger]

its the only thing that im worried about...
dark types kinda ruin everything for lati but she gets alluring voice...

[molten oasis]

and you also have the damn genie

oh, ep over sandsear

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[craggy dagger]

i made this team pretty early into the reg actually...
havent had too much time to test it though so

[molten oasis]

also, imo i think tera steel dengo is kinda overkill

[lofty tartan]

On Sub sets I feel like you just play it safe and go EP anyway

[molten oasis]

id rather have a defensive tera for single strike

[craggy dagger]

something defensive like fairy then?

[molten oasis]

yea

[lofty tartan]

I like Dragon >.>

[craggy dagger]

rilla will go tera fire-
gotta change that

[bold geode]

Dragon String Cheese go hard

[molten oasis]

i think single srike is prevelant enough that it can be fairy

[lofty tartan]

This.

[molten oasis]

although dragonis solid too

i havent fidgeted with it this reg but maybe i can give it a go

[bold geode]

But I mean Fairy ain't bad either
Depends on what MUs you're really considering

[molten oasis]

id be worried about single strike so fairy

[craggy dagger]

i'd be more worried about dark and ghosts

[molten oasis]

fairy yea

[bold geode]

Fairy is more of a hard check for Single Strike
While Dragon is your good ol flip

[lofty tartan]

Like... if you're dragon Gholdengo you gotta be really careful about when you Tera. You don't wanna be weak to the wrong thing - but if you push the threat out of the way it can be really bad for your opponent to resist the common FWG stuff

[molten oasis]

i dont like it in the face of like, bolt

[craggy dagger]

thats true

[lofty tartan]

Oh god no

No Tera in front of Draco Meteor

[molten oasis]

having dragon tera infront of bolt is a nightmare

having a dragon infront of bolt is a nightmare lol

[lofty tartan]

Yes

[bold geode]

If you tera Dragon in front of Bolt, tf you doing?

[craggy dagger]

xD

[molten oasis]

throwing

[lofty tartan]

And Flutter. Don't tera unless you KO flutter or have an out

[craggy dagger]

ill try dragon and fairy

[molten oasis]

yea

yk, im thinking about av kingambit

[lofty tartan]

It's weird to tera to be weak to flutter but it clears such a path in other cases.

[molten oasis]

av gambit sounds like, very solid against bolt with a partner

that threatens tera

[lofty tartan]

I can see that.

[molten oasis]

too many times has tera fairy bolt ruined my fucking life

[lofty tartan]

I deny the mid allegations pointed at Gambo.

[craggy dagger]

im considering alluring voice on latis...

[molten oasis]

its not mid

ill admit its in a odd spot

[craggy dagger]

just for fairy coverage?

[lofty tartan]

Yes. Lando pressures the crap out of Gambo.

[molten oasis]

its good but dealing with incin and lando sucks

i think same goes for dengo tbh

[bold geode]

Who said that?

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Incin doesn't make it easier. You get the Defiant but Incineroar still pressures after that.

[molten oasis]

wisp incin has also been picking up

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[bold geode]

Who be saying Gambit is mid cuz they're delusional lmao

[molten oasis]

its more like

its good but has hard checks

i only see gambit on gouging fire teams rn

[lofty tartan]

I saw someone recently say Gambit just isn't that good. I think it's good but there's a lot of things making life difficult for Gambit.

And yes, I love Gambit next to Fire. They pair well.

[molten oasis]

if only i could fucking pilot it

[lofty tartan]

What, Gambit?

[molten oasis]

gouging fire

[craggy dagger]

gambit pao fire pair with each other well

[lofty tartan]

Oh. It's easy.

[molten oasis]

not to me

[lofty tartan]

What's the trouble, buddy?

[molten oasis]

it doesnt click

like, idk what it is at all

[bold geode]

Nah
If anything, it's in a nice spot except for Wisp Incin
Cuz like
SD can be nice
Or
It having an actually good MU into Articuno

[molten oasis]

it does not click for me

[lofty tartan]

There's a lot of flavors of Gouging Fire you can try.

[molten oasis]

i have only seen howl sets

[lofty tartan]

I mean yeah like I think the Howl set is value.

[molten oasis]

another thing, i switch a lot

[lofty tartan]

Fast bulky support.

Right, and you don't wanna do that with Fire

[molten oasis]

gouging fire doesnt want to switch

[lofty tartan]

But you can switch the partners into Howls

[molten oasis]

its still like, idk

[lofty tartan]

And really, Fire Howl isn't the main mode - it's just a thing that it does.

[molten oasis]

its not?

[lofty tartan]

Correct.

[bold geode]

The Articuno MU is good for Kingambit, just like Goldie in a sense
Hell probably even better

[lofty tartan]

Like you have Howl to push damage, but most of the time I'm clicking Breaking Swipe

It's how you control the big bads

Ogerpon? Swipe it.

[molten oasis]

yea, fair

im ngl tho, running gouging fire kinda forces me to use lando i and, like flutter, i dont like using it

[bold geode]

Gouging Fire is good, but I hate the fact it has to stay in to do it's job

[molten oasis]

thats my issue with it

[lofty tartan]

I think a lot of big value from Fire is running it as the closer, because then you're not really looking to switch it out anyway.

[molten oasis]

i dont like how howl fire plays

its weird

but then i like set up dengo bax and primarina so idk

although theyre setting themselves up

its different

and they only need a couple impactful ko's to impact the field

ugh idk

my playstyle is set up balance

[lofty tartan]

My playstyle is "click buttons; do stuff"

[craggy dagger]

isnt gouging fire a set up balance mon xD

[lofty tartan]

Idk what my playstyle is. I just play things until it grooves

[molten oasis]

not exactly

[lofty tartan]

I mean I'm of the opinion that Fire is a Balance mon. Even one of the high placing Fire teams recently - the player called it Balance.

I personally think people give too much credit to these names for team styles.

[molten oasis]

its howl balance its kind of its own thing imo

i like setting the sweeper up myself not having the partner do it

if that makes sense

[lofty tartan]

Like if it has synergy and things cover well for other things on the team, and the intent works, it's a team

[lofty tartan]

Makes sense. It's a little weird getting used to having the side mon power up both things

But also you can Howl/Protect and that's 🔥

[molten oasis]

yea and i never got it to click and i played it for a week

[lofty tartan]

Gambit has a huge target on his back, so slamming protect and howl is pretty oppressive

You just Bulwark into the FO

[atomic mural]

i think i do need to run tera fire on my lando I

[molten oasis]

yea, idk ive accepted its not for me and if i REALLY want to learn it i will

[craggy dagger]

i mean...
It doesnt do too much cause most FO users are incin xD

[molten oasis]

fucking why, what is wrong with poison

[lofty tartan]

Rilla has a ton of play too.

[molten oasis]

what do you need tera fire for?

its so bad into shifu

[atomic mural]

I just need a better tera for sun teams

[lofty tartan]

And protecting the FO in general is totally fine

[craggy dagger]

thats true
Still at least it wastes the FO turn

[atomic mural]

because I forgot flying types ignore terrain

so i was put to sleep

[lofty tartan]

Tera Fire isn't gonna do anything for Lando in Sun

[molten oasis]

what???

you need tera fire for sleep?

[craggy dagger]

doesnt tera poison cover that though???

[molten oasis]

it sounds like a missplay on your end

not the team

[lofty tartan]

Wait... Psychic Terrain isn't gonna stop sleep. There's no Prankster Sleeps going on, is there?

[molten oasis]

reg g miraidon

[lofty tartan]

Ohhhh yeah Electric Terrain with Miraidon for sure

[next stump]

anyone planning on going to the LA regional?

[molten oasis]

cant, if i had money maybe lol

[lofty tartan]

Sadly no. 😐

I'm sitting out of official events til 2025

Expensive

[next stump]

it's hellaaaa expensive but luckily I had a travel voucher from United from when they cancelled my flight out of Portland

[lofty tartan]

That's sick

[molten oasis]

yea, i want to go to NAIC but idt i can manage the funds

so i think maybe next year i go to something

or season that is

also college just eats my funds

[lofty tartan]

I mean I'm always down to try and split costs with folks for travel/stays

I'm not a creeper - I'm a dad. 😄

[molten oasis]

lol fair

someday ill go to one

its just pricey

[lofty tartan]

Yeah you gotta really plan it out and have the means

[bold geode]

Can you be mine? It's ok all you need is to come with milk

[lofty tartan]

LMAO

My kid drinks an insane amount of milk so we always have two gallons in the fridge if at all possible.

[next stump]

@lofty tartan next season let's run an event together

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-morty-you-son-of-a-bitch-im-in-animated-series-gif-17733141

[bold geode]

Then you are the opposite of my dad lmao

[molten oasis]

im, hmm

i might put snow away

[lofty tartan]

I travel with my roommate so like... I bring two means of cutting costs. But we travel from Maine so our personal cost is pretty huge because no events close

[molten oasis]

i feel like i succeded with it, and slaping incin and wellspring on made it pretty boring to play

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I figure we have like a month and a half left of Reg F so I'm gonna party with it

I struggled a lot with teams the last two weeks.

[molten oasis]

i mean, I think i want a team to work with lando t

maybe

[lofty tartan]

Maybe

[molten oasis]

might be in that idk what to play pit again

[lofty tartan]

Come to the dark side.

[molten oasis]

fuck no

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-hate-flow-through-you-gif-11207010703952945273

@next stump might appreciate the sauce

[next stump]

what are we rocking

[lofty tartan]

https://pokebin.com/177d1ac70ab3cbf0

[next stump]

that's a sick 2+2+2 idea hahaha

[bold geode]

I would wanna compete so I can get Drago to stay with me lmao

[next stump]

i like it

[lofty tartan]

First time I've played Dozo but it's felt pretty great. You just take the things that your opponent is most soft to

[molten oasis]

no

you'd do something weird

[bold geode]

Why not? I got Cards Against Humanity

[lofty tartan]

Yahtzee

[molten oasis]

why do you want me to stay with you exactly?

[next stump]

I feel like bringing that team to a local would be really fun

you'd piss everyone off

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

yep

thats not happening

[bold geode]

Lmao nah

[lofty tartan]

Yeah basically. So far all of my opponents are just leading pretty shaky and my options in the back secure the game

[molten oasis]

i do need to find a team to get pasionate about again

[bold geode]

Just hang with the boys

[molten oasis]

primarina was super exciting to play

[lofty tartan]

feels like most people are really worried about the Snow pair and forget that Dozo and Psyspam are really oppressive

[bold geode]

I'm more chill in person than online tbh

[molten oasis]

bring it out felt good and its a solid mon i wish was explored more (thanks stupid piece of cloth)

[bold geode]

I wouldn't do weird shit Drago
(Drago ain't calling it lol)

[lofty tartan]

I still haven't gotten that female Prim btw. But we're still looking

[molten oasis]

lmk when you get it

[lofty tartan]

Will do

[molten oasis]

im bored of the gapdos team rn at least

its good, getting a result with it was awesome

[bold geode]

If I ever met up with Drago, he'd probably be waiting for me to do something fucked though tbh

[molten oasis]

yes, yes i would

hmm

[bold geode]

Like I wouldn't do nothing, but he'd be like "any second now"

[molten oasis]

ill take a short break from homework and go look at options

[bold geode]

I just wanna meet friends one day
Like I wanna meet up with Tofu one day

[molten oasis]

that would be cool

[bold geode]

Oh but me meeting up with you wouldn't

Wow

[molten oasis]

yk its a joke

[bold geode]

Drago
I'm creasing your Jordans now

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Do you even own Jordans or are you like
Cheaper shoe

[molten oasis]

cheaper

[bold geode]

(nothing wrong with cheaper shoe)

[molten oasis]

well i have a nice pair of nike

[bold geode]

The only wrong answer is "I wear HeyDudes"

[molten oasis]

good thing i dont

why do i still want to use prima lol

yk waht

ill keep using prima

however im gonna fidget with some other concepts

[bold geode]

Cuz like
HeyDudes are the worst fucking shoe ever
They feel mid and they're made with cloth so if a drop of water gets on them, your day is ruined

[lofty tartan]

Sounds like a bad shoe

[bold geode]

Cuz it is

But of course, when I was in high school, they became a fashion trend, so my dumbass bought some

There were also these high top basketball shoes called fuckin Hyperdunks that got popular in my middle school years so my dumbass also got those
Though those ones actually weren't as bad

[molten oasis]

hope you get that primarina soon, im still gonna fidget with primarina while its usable