competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

Taunt

[frail folio]

what? Psychic terrain

[smoky hawk]

I'm considering urshifu with iron ball for TR because the opponent just protects away TR turns

[tough idol]

Remove Terrain, then do it.

Also Imprison isn't affected by Terrain

[solid frigate]

Ice Spinner,Steel Roller or just Rillaboom

[frail folio]

follow me prevent imprison

[cyan smelt]

Or cancel their tr with your own tr

[solid frigate]

Use Fake Out.

[smoky hawk]

No it doesn't

[solid frigate]

thats one of the most fun strat i ever seen

[frail folio]

a single mistake and the whole match is over

[tough idol]

Imprison isn't targeted

[solid frigate]

me who stalled Trick Room with Pelipper,Archaludon and Amoonguss

[frail folio]

okay imprison isn’t targeted but what Pokémon learn it and also trick room

[solid frigate]

also if your Pokemon has Protect, you can just rotate around using Protect to stall it

[tough idol]

Indeedee for a start

[frail folio]

nah that’s crazy

very fair pokemon

[solid frigate]

[frail folio]

To counter indeed I need another indeede

[tough idol]

Tell me last Regional win for Indeedee

[frail folio]

Fair

[solid frigate]

oh yeah and also Incineroar exists.

knock Off

[tough idol]

Bye bye Helmet lol 😆

[solid frigate]

lel

wait i wanna see how much it do

[cyan smelt]

How do you deal with indeedee sneasler

[frail folio]

So I have to play a rotation of pokemon to win since I don’t play with flutter mane, inci,indeedee, or farigaraph

[solid frigate]

4 Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee-F: 116-140 (65.5 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

PFFT

bro did over half-

[next stump]

what’s your team, I can tell you a gameplan into Indeedee Tr

[tough idol]

Lead Rillaboom and pray they aren't 0 Spd or its a speed tie

[next stump]

if you’re not running a team that can have a gameplan, then your team is bad

[frail folio]

guys with what pokemon are you constantly killing flutter

[hoary shoal]

Urshifu does it pretty well, rilla can chip it down pretty easily or jisy blow it up with wh, lando-i sludge bomb

[tough idol]

Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter
Heavy Slam - a few
Ursh

[solid frigate]

i just use Archaludon for fun

[bold geode]

Is that a fuckin hotdog

[solid frigate]

oh yeah Iron Crown is a Niche that should be consider

[molten oasis]

HOLY SHIT LANDO THERIAN

[cyan smelt]

Rillaboom wood hammer always kos

[craggy dagger]

to counter indeedee you need monke

[bold geode]

That's just average Lando T player

[craggy dagger]

I JUST LEFT THE VENUE ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/rillaboom-drumming-pokemon-leon-gif-27454385

[tough idol]

On my current team. Still running my Liverpool Regional team with 1 change

[solid frigate]

Love it

[bold geode]

YOU'RE IN VANCOUVER?!

[cyan smelt]

Chien pao out speeds flutter and can ko with ice spinner

[frail folio]

Even bulky?

[hoary shoal]

Tr is pretty easy to play against tbh, the fact that you can almost always predict their t1 play is a big weakness

[cyan smelt]

I think so

[bold geode]

They can EV easily nowadays to live that

68/116 for Jolly and 148/124 for Adamant
HP/Def respectfully

[solid frigate]

kingambit Iron Head?

[molten oasis]

Taunt icy wind flutter

Interesting

[bold geode]

Lmao
"Prefers ketchup or relish"

[hoary shoal]

Alternatively you could just use your own fm to kill

[bold geode]

You know that mfer is HOT in that bitch

[bold geode]

Ah yes
The set that just gets walled by Gholdengo

[hoary shoal]

Imagine using gholdengo

[frail folio]

imagine he wins

[bold geode]

I hope the hotdog guy wins the whole event now

I hope tomorrow he comes in wearing one of those T-Rex suits

[frail folio]

banana

[bold geode]

I have a banana suit

[frail folio]

the time has come

become the dragon warrior

[bold geode]

Become the glizzy warrior

[next stump]

who voted the near mirror on stream lol

[bold geode]

Idk but I'm glad we did

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/master-kohga-panic-yiga-clan-tears-of-the-kingdom-breath-of-the-wild-gif-1052111504139654587

[frail folio]

Glammora diff

me when I play tornadus

[next stump]

wait ian might still have this

[bold geode]

Nah
Glizzy time

[frail folio]

didn’t fail a single time

How did flutter live that

[next stump]

you gotta feel so bad for Ian lol

[dapper crag]

- [Rock]

Resists (0.5x)

Fire, Flying, Normal, Poison

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Grass, Ground, Steel, Water

Type Notes

Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[next stump]

this is some bullshit

[bold geode]

Oh I thought Rock resisted Rock

[frail folio]

gg

[bold geode]

You rooting for Ian?

[next stump]

im rooting for a good game to watch

crazy bad RNG for one player in the set to lose both games

luckily he's 6-0 so as long as he doesn't giga tilt he'll still make day 2

[bold geode]

Lmao
I would be doing the same, but this mfer wearing a hotdog suit so
For once monkey brain activate

[frail folio]

wow

[bold geode]

Dillon did you know what happened to Yotam during that one Nino tour speaking of RNG

Bro lost a set in top cut or something iirc cuz like
Double crit double connect Bleakwind

[next stump]

RIPP that's tough

[frail folio]

you can see how mad he is

s tier skill being lucky

[tough idol]

@next stump is it worth watching stream back once I'm free from work?

[molten oasis]

Dra-

DRAGONAIR?!?

oh it’s a mistake

[next stump]

I think so, there’s been a lot of downtime though

so make sure to watch the VOD and skip the between round time

[tough idol]

TY 😊

[zinc perch]

difference between ability patch and ability capsule?

woops wrong chat mb

[tough idol]

NP 😊 we can help here too

[zinc perch]

:V

nice

so whats the diff ;v

[tough idol]

Capsule is used to switch between normal abilities.

Patch switches between Hidden and Normal

[next stump]

very very well played game from Scott

[molten oasis]

Yea

He positioned his gholdengo super well

[tough idol]

@zinc perch
Example Kinggambit

Normal abilities - Supreme Overlord and Defiant
Hidden- Pressure

You'd use the appropriate item to get the ability you want.

[zinc perch]

yeah

just was wondering the diff between ability capsule and ability patch

i wanna get shadow tag on gothielle

[tough idol]

Ie catch a 6 star raid KG You'd use a patch to try and get Defiant. If you get Supreme, use a capsule.

[zinc perch]

cough perish

song

[zinc perch]

?

[tough idol]

@zinc perch do you have Frisk or Competitive

[zinc perch]

can you just use the ability patch on whatever you want?

[zinc perch]

didnt catch it yet

[tough idol]

If you get Frisk or Comp a patch will make it Shadow Tag

[zinc perch]

yeah

i know that i just wanted to know if capsule would of saved me time but i know its just between the normal abilities and not the hidden now

[tough idol]

Cap only does normal

[zinc perch]

yes

[next stump]

+2 84+ SpA Metal Coat Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 180-213 (100.5 - 118.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

In case anyone else was curious on the calc to close out the last game. I used Chuppa’s HP stat and Toler Webb’s Gholdengo spread so if he has less SpA investment, it was a slight roll

[molten oasis]

gholdengo is strong damn

[tough idol]

Gold is GOAT 🐐

[frail folio]

he was not going to make it

[ember linden]

In 252 HP 252 ATK+ Dragonite we trust 🫡

I wanna use AV dragonite at some point

[west solstice]

can someone help me with my competitive team i’m suffering

[foggy lodge]

Here

[west solstice]

hm?

here what

[sullen hare]

can anyone help me with my competitive team? I’m having trouble sticking to a proper one

[upbeat quail]

What are you running right now?

[sullen hare]

it’s odd for sure

a trick room team actually

[upbeat quail]

If you have a pokepaste with ev spreads that would help

[sullen hare]

farigaraf, incineror, metagross,primarina, blood moon and the last slot I keep rotating

idk how to do that tbh

[upbeat quail]

Farig and Blood moon are a great core to any TR team

https://pokepast.es/0a790cea85520934

This team here isn’t a bad place to start

[sullen hare]

I get the tr off all the time but the damage afterwards is lacking tbh

[next stump]

i think the best way to figure out where you’re struggling is with replay examples because TR can be hard to use

especially farigarif TR because oftentimes you lack immediate offense

and you need to make smart positioning plays to get your sweepers in with enough turns left

[sullen hare]

yeah that’s the hard part

[sullen hare]

that teams good but I don’t have any way to get that ursaluna

I originally had a team similar to Wolfe’s regional team, but I had issues dealing with tailwind teams that’s why switched to trick room and I started doing better

but now I’m stuck in ultra ball tier cause my team can’t do enough damage after the trick room

where’d everyone go? 😭

[foggy lodge]

There is already a Bloodmoon team

[sullen hare]

where?

[foggy lodge]

Farigiraf, Ursaluna, Incineroar, Flutter Mane, Ogerpon and Urshifu single strike

That's the most common Farigiraf Bloodmoon team

Ogerpon Wellspring too

[sullen hare]

okay

this may seem dumb but I was trying for a more uncommon team

[solid frigate]

its ok to try an uncommon team,just be logical

[foggy lodge]

In the in-game ladder you can because any team can work there

[sullen hare]

yeah makes sense

[foggy lodge]

You can make changes, it's not mandatory to bring those 6 pokemon, but try to use that team as a base to build the team

[sullen hare]

but I’m sure it’s better to use the better mons

[foggy lodge]

Maybe you can instead of running Ogerpon wellspring run Amoonguss, or Clefairy

[sullen hare]

okay

[foggy lodge]

Things like that

[sullen hare]

do you have the poke past for it

[sullen hare]

I’ll look into it thanks

[gentle crag]

basicrd has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[foggy lodge]

Yeah, give me a second

https://pokepast.es/fee8f2ec974db42c

[sullen hare]

thank you

I do want to know

how do you get 0 ivs in specific stats and how to get the money for bottle caps and all cause I’m struggling with those tbh

[foggy lodge]

Ah yeah

0ivs attack it's not too important

And the ivs in Ursaluna and Farigiraf don't matter that much because you are still slow

There is no way to get bottle caps to lower ivs in this games

God that's something they have to add the next gen

[sullen hare]

yeah for sure

and I meant bottle caps to increase stats

[foggy lodge]

Ah wait i got the Farigiraf wrong lol

[foggy lodge]

Ohhh

[sullen hare]

basically I’m new to sv and I’m broke on the game asw 😭

[foggy lodge]

The printer machine from the indigo disk is the best way

[sullen hare]

what’s the strat to get money to buy the items

[sullen hare]

Oh okay

[foggy lodge]

If you don't have the dlc or you are lazy to farm BBQ (like me) try to just do the academy Tournament with a Gholdengo make it rain + the money amulet and a Meowth or Persian with the move that doubles money

I don't know the names in spanish

[sullen hare]

oh okay sounds good

you battle asw?

[foggy lodge]

Rn?

I can, do you prefer showdown or console

[sullen hare]

yeah

[sullen hare]

maybe link battles

[foggy lodge]

Ah okay

Give me the code while i get the team

I just lost to a Farigiraf Torkoal team 😭

[sullen hare]

I’m in raid I’ll send after

[foggy lodge]

Yeah, ping me when you are done

[sullen hare]

well you probably won’t let me get trick room off then

[foggy lodge]

It's really hard to make Farigiraf not set trick room really

[sullen hare]

yeah actually

the issues with my team are there’s no sweepers for after the tr

[foggy lodge]

Farigiraf is almost always lead with Incineroar and in that way you can't taunt it because Inci fake out your taunt user and you can't fake out the Farigiraf because of the tail armor

[sullen hare]

thats literally my leads 😭😭

[cyan smelt]

Taunt flutter

[sullen hare]

yeah that does work

[sullen hare]

but most flutter don’t run taunt

[cyan smelt]

Some do

[foggy lodge]

There's also a hard read play where Farigiraf Bloodmoon can insta win and is going just the hard read parting Incineroar and that makes Bloodmoon enters with your rival's stats dropped and without any damage

And the TR already set up

AH ALSO

I got the Farigiraf on the pokepaste wrong, it's played with hyper voice + throat spray

But it's still good if you play sitrus dazzling

You just have to choice what Farigiraf use

[sullen hare]

I’ll send the code now

[sullen hare]

yeah actually

[west solstice]

is decidueye good competitively

[foggy lodge]

No

[sullen hare]

😭

[foggy lodge]

I wish he was good

But it's stats are mediocre, mediocre typing, useless abilities, not so good movepool

[sullen hare]

so do I tbh

I’ll send the code in abit

[cyan smelt]

Too bad because triple arrows is busted

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[west solstice]

my team must be terrible, i keep losing very battle

[foggy lodge]

Bro triple arrows is straight up broken

And scrappy is actually a good ability

But it's typing, stats and movepool are still not good

[sullen hare]

yeah Tera does make it better but you pretty much need to Tera every game so that’s a waste and the move pool is still an issue

[west solstice]

it’s Gouging Fire, Greninja, Kinggambit and Whimsicott

[foggy lodge]

Can i see the team?

[foggy lodge]

Okay

[sullen hare]

maybe add one more bulky mon

[foggy lodge]

Good core the Gouging Fire and Kingambit, but replace Greninja with Ogerpon Wellspring

[west solstice]

the plan usually is to wait out kinggambit till the the end of the match

for supreme overlord

[foggy lodge]

Yeah is a good way

Ahhh no

In vgc Kingambit is always played with defiang

Because of Incineroar and any intimidate user

[sullen hare]

you down to battle now?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[sullen hare]

check dms

[warped mason]

When does regulation g start?

[craggy dagger]

that looks fine on paper-

[craggy dagger]

after vancouver regionals and NAIC i think-
or it might be before NAIC

current reg goes till may

[molten oasis]

NAIC is reg g

[craggy dagger]

cool-

[molten oasis]

Well

Learning that the gapdos team is just ass into calm mind bolt

It’s just very hard to take it out without having any strong hitting physical neutrals

That can sit infront of it

[molten oasis]

Hotdog man

[charred saddle]

insane drip

[molten oasis]

played wide league today

ended top 4 because of a draco miss

[atomic mural]

Should just hit 💪

https://tenor.com/view/daspoody-fax-facts-do-tho-gif-24929145

[languid anvil]

I’ve been thinking of making a rain team lately, how does something like this sound? Pelipper, Palafin, Basculegion, Archaludon, Tatsugiri and Dondozo

Any suggestions or recommendations?

[vestal arch]

I'm making a trick room team based around Reuniclus and Indeedee
my current line-up are those two and Torkoal
I'm welcome to suggestions on what to add next

[mighty stump]

TR has a basic template if its Psyspam

Torkoal, then you run another TR setter or Hilligant, Ursaluna,

Usually Hatterene/Armarouge

[vestal arch]

aight thanks a bunch

what about items?

[autumn vault]

Wtf am i seeing

[mighty stump]

Replace Palafin with Urshifu. Urshifu is just the straight up upgrade really

[languid anvil]

Alright

[mighty stump]

Flame Orb Ursaluna, Charcoal or Specs for Torkoal.

Hatt is either Life Orb or Covert Cloak
Armarouge is Power Herb Meteor Beam (or LO, but you punish Incin this way)

Indeedee can be Rocky Helmet or Psychic Seed

[mighty stump]

From there, it’s actually kinda a toss up. Id encourage Lando-I/Rillaboom/Amoonguss/Gholdengo to have some variation in your coverage both defensively and offensively with each alterjng different matchups

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2087986098 Power of the Houndstone

I will send a rental of it next week after the GC3 ends because the bolt build is locked in a team for the GC3 and after it i will change it

[chrome knot]

you played out 1 turn i see the power of literally nothing

[next stump]

anyone from here day 2 vancouver?

[upbeat quail]

Great Tusk @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 156 HP / 100 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Close Combat
• Headlong Rush
• Earthquake
• Ice Spinner

With this set great tusk’s speed will be 1 point higher than it’s defense and attack allowing for a protosynthesis speed boost.

Combine with gouging fire or another howl user I can see this possibly being a solid threat.

Am I cooking, or is this a blunder?

[timber falcon]

So do you swap from torkoal to gouging?

[upbeat quail]

Yeah possibly, and then use tornadus for tailwind/sunny day support

[timber falcon]

Cause idk but this is looking like a torn shifu type fodder, how would u fix that?

[timber falcon]

Eject pact?

That might work actually

[upbeat quail]

Eject pack on Torkoal?

[timber falcon]

Yeah ur gonna want it as a pivot

Since I’m guessing no tr

[upbeat quail]

Yeah no tr. I may have a mon with TR to reverse it against hard tr teams

[timber falcon]

Hm doesn’t torkoal already kinda make tr users think twice?

[upbeat quail]

That’s a fair point. Charcoal boosted eruptions in the sun clap cheeks.

[timber falcon]

Mhm

[upbeat quail]

Maybe ninetales if I’m gonna need a more pivot heavy team? I find that eject pack works better on it

[timber falcon]

Isn’t torkoal just a better sun setter though, it’s got yawn, bulk, and the strongest fire type move. And its speed is actually pretty helpful

[upbeat quail]

Yeah that’s fair. Torkoal is probably a better fit now that I can use great tusk for the ground coverage. I can drop earth power for yawn or helping hand

[autumn vault]

No attack investment hurts this build

[timber falcon]

Yeah just need a torn shifu counter or smth

Bolt

[mighty stump]

Well the point isn't the attack investment

Since the thought process involves boosting Spe

But I wouldn't be making use of AV with that

[timber falcon]

This team lookin like wolfey recent team ngl

[upbeat quail]

The only way to get the speed boost proto is by not investing attack

[autumn vault]

i realized that

[timber falcon]

Do you need speed though?

[autumn vault]

i would go booster energy if you want speed badly

[timber falcon]

Or can it just be left as bulky

[upbeat quail]

I like the bulk, especially with assault vest.

[timber falcon]

Speed seems not needed tbh, if u want it that bad go scarf

[mighty stump]

What did you calc for anyways?

[timber falcon]

Basically to make speed booster activate

[upbeat quail]

I didn’t really, the hp and spdef are just placeholders until I do calcs

[timber falcon]

I’m pretty sure

[mighty stump]

I'm aware

I'm talking about the defensive calcs you noodle

[upbeat quail]

Maybe a bulky physical attack boosting set would be better, and I don’t have to worry about howl gouging fire then

[autumn vault]

220 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 156 HP / 100 SpD Assault Vest Great Tusk: 144-170 (68.5 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[timber falcon]

Going of pikalytics here just for some advice, tusk likes scarf, sash and amulet the most (usage)

[autumn vault]

220 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 156 HP / 100 SpD Assault Vest Great Tusk: 228-270 (108.5 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

132 Atk Ogerpon-Wellspring Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 156 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk: 140-168 (66.6 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

76+ Atk Ogerpon-Wellspring Wood Hammer (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 156 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk: 180-212 (85.7 - 100.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

[upbeat quail]

Clear amulet might be the best option here ngl

[autumn vault]

252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 156 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk on a critical hit: 186-222 (88.5 - 105.7%) -- approx. 18.8% chance to OHKO

just dropping some calcs

[upbeat quail]

Thanks for dropping those calcs, that helps a ton

What do you use for the calcs?

[autumn vault]

to use in game and to know when to switch and when to not switch, when to attack and not attack

[mighty stump]

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/

Use this,

[upbeat quail]

Thank you!

[gentle crag]

anthropos4704 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[autumn vault]

That is already what i use

[upbeat quail]

I was asking the site zekrom, thanks tho

[autumn vault]

Jesse earned all of my respect for bringing in that hotdog drip

[foggy lodge]

Rapid strike over Single also

[autumn vault]

I miss it when in one regional had flutter at 6th most used pokemon

[foggy lodge]

I think that was in day 2

We have to see the top 12 today

[upbeat quail]

https://pokepast.es/d57ff5c3a5ebad9b

Rain dance on torn is supposed to be sunny day

[mighty stump]

My favourite genre of team is "top 6 used Pokemons in one team" team

[patent marsh]

[chrome knot]

noo bc not there BUT ask me this during orlando

(i’ll still say no but)

[solid frigate]

I am not even in USA

[foggy lodge]

Literally my team lol

[autumn vault]

Vancouver is in Canada, not the United States

Also i am not in Vancouver, very far from it, to a whole different continent

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[dull ibex]

vgc stream?

[solid frigate]

ik i just want to say like i am not even in USA,let alone in Canada

[solid frigate]

I am really questioning Smogon's Sanity

[next stump]

anyone know when stream starts today?

[craggy dagger]

soon i think?
i think streams starts 10 Vancouver time

30 more min

[next stump]

thank you

[molten oasis]

Got my first top cut yesterday with the gapdos Primarina team

Almost got to finals but bolt missed a Draco meteor that cost me the game and I forgot how sucker punch worked

Next time I play I’m gonna bring Baxtales

[craggy dagger]

ah mb it should start at 10:30 vancouver time

[craggy dagger]

ooooo niceee

[patent marsh]

?

[molten oasis]

I did have to dodge a couple bad mu’s

Calm mind bolt is such a nightmare for this team

[solid frigate]

Xerneas Ain't AG material

like why they do that.

[patent marsh]

🤷‍♂️

[autumn vault]

It wasn't banned in SM or USUM which makes the decision even weirder

[craggy dagger]

It was Go that started at 10…
idk how i get these mixed up

VG stream prep is live though-

[molten oasis]

Neat

I’ll be watching passively while doing piles of catch-up work

[solid frigate]

also i beat someone used Regigigas Slow start wezzing strat

[craggy dagger]

okay i’m fucking way off-
it starts in 5 min so 10:15 Vancouver time

[upbeat quail]

Someone ping me please with a link to the most broken team in vgc right now. I wanna use it and see if my teams are bad or I’m just bad

[molten oasis]

I don’t have a paste but incin, calm mind raging bolt, rillaboom, scarf rapid strike, gholdengo, and chien pao is really strong

[silver ravine]

Any variation of this basically

Will say it's crazy that Amoon is having a resurgence

[foggy lodge]

@upbeat quail https://pokepast.es/b3f09ead88276c55

I don't have the Ev spread tho

But it's the japan balance team

[molten oasis]

Booo fluttermane and lando I

[silver ravine]

Dumb question, but is there a difference between balance and good stuffs team? It seems that good stuff teams are balance teams, but with the top mons in the meta at the moment.

[molten oasis]

Yes

Good stuff teams are just, teams with good mons that don’t necessarily have any kind of syngery

[foggy lodge]

WHY THE INCI HAS BLAZE

I forgot

[molten oasis]

Balance teams have synergy and tend ti work well together

[solid frigate]

i feel like Raging Bolt and Archaludon is my favourite Indigo Disk Mon rn

(NOT COUNTING TERAPAGOS)

[molten oasis]

Honestly

I love raging bolt, I fucking hate fighting it

[foggy lodge]

Fixed https://pokepast.es/4e7efeeebf08b7b5

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/raging-bolt-pokemon-paradox-raikou-vgc-gif-17137987366850124151

[silver ravine]

Huh I always thought balance also didn't necessarily have to synergy. Thank you

[gentle crag]

striferealists has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[foggy lodge]

I should be the only person who can use Raging Bolt👆

[molten oasis]

It’s mostly calm mind bolt just causing me so many issues the past month

My answers to bolt are special attackers

Soo

[fallen garden]

this graphic is so funny to me

[foggy lodge]

High horsepower in Rillaboom can help i think

Or Chien-Pao

[molten oasis]

I don’t have rilla

Or pao

[foggy lodge]

Hmmmm

I wish we had good fairy physical types

The best fairy physical is fucking Azumarill lmao

[molten oasis]

bolt takes over lando and incin takes over flutter

[grizzled bronze]

incin back at it again

[patent marsh]

💀

[craggy dagger]

wtffff

[foggy lodge]

💀💀💀💀💀

How did Rapid Strike beated single strike again

Black spy vs white spy ahh meta

[atomic mural]

Bro how did that guy win

[patent marsh]

expanding force

[atomic mural]

That tyranitar pin really helped him dodge that icy wind

[patent marsh]

:batchest:

[autumn vault]

I am pretty sure that wasn't me

I havent logged into showdown at all today

[autumn vault]

This is pog, Fucker Mane not in 1st or 2nd most used pokemon

[patent marsh]

[fallen garden]

Bro is willing Zacian back into the game

[mighty stump]

Balance has a significant amount of utility and options to essentially control the momentum of the board

[molten oasis]

Can someone ping me when the next match happens

[mighty stump]

Essentially, most Balance teams are Good Stuffs

for Good Stuffs are just "good mons"

[foggy lodge]

Yeah, more like micro good mons that together work good

[craggy dagger]

judges just went on stage so should happen soon

[silver ravine]

Any suggestions for my last 2 mons? https://pokepast.es/12a96436eb3a91fc

Was thinking Sinistcha for Hospitality and maybe a tailwind setter.

[molten oasis]

Iron moth 👀

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/18186f1bead16971 Im thinking of using an assault vest on one of these pokemon

both would like it to have it and both have reasons to want it

iron hands would give me a better counter to terapagos (this is for my miraidon team)

[gleaming marsh]

Hi Anyone wanna friend! 🙂 916104239098 is my code 👍

[craggy dagger]

moth lunaroom with iron spam :0

[atomic mural]

ignore this

[zinc perch]

what would 4 spd be for

[atomic mural]

you have 4 evs left remaining that do something

so they just put it in special defense for 1 extra point

only the first 4 is one point, after that, you need 8 evs for 1 point of a stat

and the max evs you can put in one stat is 252

[zinc perch]

first 4? wym

[atomic mural]

Incineroar (F) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 52 Def / 156 SpD / 44 Spe
Careful Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Fake Out
• Parting Shot

[zinc perch]

basically the situation is i thought i put 252 in speed and spa but only the speed stat was sparkling so i got rid of the spd to make the spa sparkle

but now the spd cant have any stats added

so that means the speed likely had 255 evs in it

[foggy lodge]

There is already a archetype for Body press Kommo-O

[zinc perch]

instead of 252

[atomic mural]

yeah because 252 is the max amount of evs that do something

[zinc perch]

yeah

so now im asking do i really need that 4 spd

cause i aint gonna reset all my evs lol

[atomic mural]

why would you not want it?

that one point could be useful

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/3575f62b34b10f49

[zinc perch]

cause not feeling to grind 500k just for 4 spd unless its really vital so i was trying to check up

what that 4 spd really protects it from getting ko'd

like if it gets hit from an earth power from whatever specific pokemon

[silver ravine]

Thanks. I might have to borrow it

[gentle crag]

striferealists has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[zinc perch]

lol

[atomic mural]

that one special defense could matter

or you could just put it in hp

[mighty stump]

Lol

4 EVs matter

[zinc perch]

xD

[mighty stump]

I'm not kidding

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 126-153 (81.2 - 98.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 135-162 (86.5 - 103.8%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ceruledge: 152-182 (83.5 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ceruledge: 156-186 (85.7 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Couple of examples

It's just optimal to lower your rolls if you don't have anywhere else to put the EVs

[molten oasis]

IRON MOTH LETS GOO

[craggy dagger]

meteor beam

but did that miss-
i didn’t see

[mighty stump]

Lul Misseor Beam

[molten oasis]

thats an awful miss

[craggy dagger]

[atomic mural]

its joever for iron moth

[craggy dagger]

sludge wave self OHKO

[mighty stump]

?????????

[molten oasis]

idiot

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[molten oasis]

that play was awful

[mighty stump]

I tuned in to some quality VGC huh

[atomic mural]

dont think he thought that through

[molten oasis]

yea

[craggy dagger]

yep

[grizzled bronze]

what the fuck was that

[molten oasis]

10/10 gameplay right here

[craggy dagger]

it’s even better irl

[atomic mural]

dont worry ursaluna carry

nvm

[molten oasis]

i cant imagine what his opponent is thinking

[atomic mural]

"what is this idiot doing?"

[mighty stump]

Well

Stream nerves

[molten oasis]

yea, i bet it was that

[atomic mural]

that was definitely the game of all time

[foggy lodge]

HOW

[atomic mural]

who let him cook 💀

[foggy lodge]

I WAS A IRON MOTH BELIEVER

[mighty stump]

This should KO

Nice

[foggy lodge]

nah Iron Moth beated Urshifu

[molten oasis]

big ko

[tribal garnet]

Are sandstorm teams still used commonly?

[molten oasis]

no

[craggy dagger]

yesnt

[mighty stump]

Sand is ok, only the TTar/Exca or Lycanroc variant imo

[molten oasis]

crown takes this

[atomic mural]

bro did not deserve that after that egregious round 2

[next stump]

lowkey game 2 if tera grass + wide guards, his play would have been good

resist strikes, block bleakwind, block sludge wave

[molten oasis]

yea, maybe it was a missclick

[atomic mural]

bro forgor 💀

that was not a missclick

[molten oasis]

lmk when next match is up

[atomic mural]

its starting

[molten oasis]

gholdengoat

am i insane or did i just see banded p2 for a second

[solid frigate]

IN SV i mean

[autumn vault]

Still wasn't me, i havent used that team in a long time on switch ladder

[molten oasis]

once again, lmk when next round starts

[craggy dagger]

what an event-

cc into rm would have been the play though no?
maybe EVs though hmm

[next stump]

CC into moon loses if Arcanine stays asleep

because then you get a free switch in and amoongus just spores arcanine, and you tera blast urshify

I think Marcus’ win con was switching Arcanine into Raging Bolt and then U-Turning out with Urshifu to have Arcanine tank the first Acrobatics

[solid frigate]

yeah its ok

[zinc perch]

why is ability capsule saying it cannot be used

[next stump]

what pokemon are you trying it with and what is your current ability

[zinc perch]

mb was asking for a friend he didnt realize a pokemons only other ability was its hidden one

[kind ember]

Raging bolt is too strong so they just need to give raichu 130 sp def and def

[bold geode]

Top 8 here

[sharp cobalt]

Monke

Michael and Brandon have interesting teamas

[bold geode]

Yeah Whimsicott top 8 now

Neil vs Brady

[atomic mural]

im just tryna get sp def evs 💀

[sharp cobalt]

Slap an AV on dat

I forgot. Donkey. Horse. Either.

[bold geode]

Why bruh got a pillow lmao

[atomic mural]

hes got a flight to catch

[sharp cobalt]

^

What regionals are there in Europe

[atomic mural]

James Evans is getting philosophical with this one 🗣️

[bold geode]

"As long as there's delusion, there's hope"
James Evans has said it best lmao

[sharp cobalt]

Great, means I can hope I can bring my delulu ass to a European regional

[next stump]

this game was a stomp lol

[autumn vault]

Reminds me when i was farming attack evs and a shiny clodsire appeared

[atomic mural]

ashton getting to his flight early with this one 🗣️

[thin fjord]

Can anyone give me an online resource to view what materials are needed for any move to be made in the TM machine?

Trying to make Knock off one mat is ??????

[next stump]

serebii.net

[thin fjord]

finally found it it's under "Technical Machines" not the actual TM page.

appreciate

[atomic mural]

gouging fire living sucker punch was huge

[molten oasis]

ah yes

another flutter that gets walled by gholdengo

[atomic mural]

Completely useless rental code 💪

[solid frigate]

i could not make it yet cuz I DON'T HAVE RAGING BOLT

[bold geode]

Ooooh

The burns are good

Brady played well

[timber falcon]

gholdengo walls flutter?

[molten oasis]

only fairy moves and sub

[timber falcon]

oh ok

[bold geode]

I'm rooting for Brady let's go

Whims in top 4 ayo

[craggy dagger]

whimsy yeah

[bold geode]

Man that game 1 lmao

Ogerpon funny moments

[craggy dagger]

crownspam with lunaroom…

[bold geode]

Wait
More people are using Ursh than Wellspring now

Urshifu rises again lmao

[chrome knot]

oh noo(it plays next to incin & fire pon)

[bold geode]

Lmao
Still just the fact that Flutter really shouldn't be walled by that lol

[molten oasis]

huge crit

[ember linden]

I really want to see Brady vs. James Evans

I’m running like a mix of both of their teams

Urshifu will fluctuate for a while lol, it’s funny how much ppl have been like “this mon is mid now” to “wait guys it’s still broken”

[bold geode]

@molten oasis shitting himself rn seeing Brady in semis with CM Bolt

[molten oasis]

shut up

[bold geode]

Lmao

DAMN

[ember linden]

Let’s fucking go

[molten oasis]

its over

amazing play by brady

this team is so passive

[bold geode]

It seems like a variation of Spanish 6

[molten oasis]

yea

he needs a freeze

[ember linden]

Did y’all see this lol

[molten oasis]

and even then idt that wins you the game

[bold geode]

Nah
Freeze gotta be

[molten oasis]

yes, i saw banded p2 earlier as well

[bold geode]

Huh

And Incineroar and Amoongus broke the fuckin format

That's not even casting, that's a game glitch lmao

[molten oasis]

well, scott is definetly done for

[ember linden]

He had a solid run

[molten oasis]

his team is way too passive and lando i does not make up for that

[ember linden]

It’s a good team

[molten oasis]

its fine

i dont remember the other members

[ember linden]

12-2 isn’t something to shrug off

Gholdengo Roaring Moon

[molten oasis]

oh, so he decided to not bring either of his set up mons

thats, odd

[ember linden]

Brady’s team punishes them hard

He can’t easily bring gholdengo into chien incin rilla bolt

[bold geode]

My favorite thing
Booster Energy Landorus Incarnate

[molten oasis]

you can bring dengo into that you just need to be careful

i think dengo incin lead is solid there

then like, p2 and lando

or amoonguss over p2

[ember linden]

I think incin amoon was a bit better

[atomic mural]

I played a bit with my team on casual doubles on switch and I only lost twice because I made too many risky plays

[ember linden]

What are you running?

[atomic mural]

its a test Reg G team

[bold geode]

@ember linden apparently it happened a couple times
Apparently earlier Kon Mo O had a Hearthflame mask

[ember linden]

Lol

I like Brady but James is my favorite competitor so I gotta root for him

[smoky hawk]

Finals is live

Weird turn. It looked like they both chose the wrong targets, unless they expected a switch

[molten oasis]

that was a great play

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[molten oasis]

bolt literally went from 1 hp to almost ful

[foggy lodge]

How can they show this on live and not be embarrased

[molten oasis]

ggs

[smoky hawk]

Wow that went back and forth

[foggy lodge]

Even the fact that the team preview on live can glitch and there we got some things like the double Incineroar

[molten oasis]

it went bad when he sacked shifu

[next stump]

what was that urshifu switch in lol

urshifu was his way of dealing with lando

[molten oasis]

i think you really needed to get into a spot where shifu and a fo mon hit the field at the same time

then you remove lando and fo gouging fire

that was, a really weird play

[craggy dagger]

well tbf he was sacking the rilla or the shifu with that switch

[molten oasis]

you need shifu to take out lando

[craggy dagger]

yeah that’s true

[ember linden]

I don’t think he expected that earth power to kill

[craggy dagger]

guess he saw a value in keeping rilla?

[molten oasis]

as we saw eariler lando takes +1 pulse

i think that chip damage mattered

[craggy dagger]

mhm-
a +1 into earth power isn’t something that-
you’d expect to KO at a glance

[molten oasis]

my av bolt barely lives a earth power so like

+1 spD is the same kind of damage

i think the chip mattered

[craggy dagger]

prolly yeah

[molten oasis]

good games tho

[dull ibex]

vgc has been funish

[craggy dagger]

man-
i was on the edge of my seat throughout the entire match-

[foggy lodge]

Freaking lando hits like a truck

[molten oasis]

its gross i hate it

[dull ibex]

alot of my games are big attackers doing big damage and enabling my chi-mane to clean its kinda gros

[molten oasis]

i hate just, being able to dish out that much damage with no set up is insane

[foggy lodge]

Even if you try to use tera on Raging, Raging normally runs tera fairy so yeah you can take a earth power but then you have to play around the sludge bomb

[molten oasis]

yea

[foggy lodge]

• no recoil because sheer power!!!😁

[smoky hawk]

Brady would've been better off protecting raging bolt rather than dragon pulsing the lando

Then incin would come in and he'd have fake out support

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2088383143 🙂

[molten oasis]

fucking, disgusting amounts of damage and we have nothing that really walls it beyond like, corv and tera+levitate mons

and things that are neutral just explode half the time

[foggy lodge]

• set up line with substitute

[molten oasis]

yea

[foggy lodge]

You can't leave him comfortable because he can use substitute

Best way to counter it is just snarl users

[molten oasis]

stupid mon, i hate it

[foggy lodge]

And the best snarl users are Raging, Entei, Chi-Yu or even Inci

[molten oasis]

so hard to deal with and i generaly just cant pilot it either lol

[foggy lodge]

All of them weak to ground😁

[molten oasis]

at least running snow gives it a run for its money

oh well, i didnt see anything interesting to run and i cant run gouging fire for the life of me

[foggy lodge]

Still this regional was really good

Too much variety of Pokémon 👆

[molten oasis]

idt thats a problem

[foggy lodge]

Iron Moth, Scream Tail, Sinistcha, Skeledirge, Hisuian Goodra

[molten oasis]

i like variety

[foggy lodge]

Nono, it's something good

[molten oasis]

man, id go play some vgc but like, i have work to do lol

this was my "break" beyond getting snacks

[foggy lodge]

I usually play showdown on my free classes lol

I wish that now people star running more variety of Pokémon

Or at least we have to take them into consideration when building

[molten oasis]

yea but at the same times

running the good things just, works for a reason

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

A lot of the Pokémon are under explored, or people don't take time to lab with them

But they have a reason to don't lab with them

[molten oasis]

ik someone that thinks that fairies are ALL ass because fluttermane exists

which, i just got a result with primarina

that isnt true at all lol

[dapper crag]

How is fairy bad bcuz flutter exists?

[molten oasis]

invalidating the use cases for them

like

[dapper crag]

That's dumb af

Fairy is one of if not the best type in game

[molten oasis]

when it comes to say, you want an offensive fairy you just go flutter

[foggy lodge]

Like Galarian Moltres, i think G-Moltres is under explored, or not optimized, but i still think that even when it's optimized it wouldn't give you many benefit from labbing with him

[foggy lodge]

Lol

[molten oasis]

i think when it comes to using sylveon or primarina

you dont use it as a nuke button

[foggy lodge]

Anyways i don't know any good fairy type outside of Flutter Mane and Primarina

[molten oasis]

theyre calm mind users

[foggy lodge]

Uhh, Scream Tail?

[molten oasis]

oh yea, encore disable is cool

oh and hat is decent

[gentle delta]

I just won the Vancouver regional MSS.

Faced my biggest hero Brian Collins in the finals and got there

[foggy lodge]

Sylveon is also good

[molten oasis]

they do different things

[molten oasis]

very nice

[gentle delta]

9-1

1st of 106 players

[molten oasis]

theres a calm mind yawn sylveon roaming around a little

i saw it a few times playing on ladder

[foggy lodge]

Grimmsnarl is also good

[molten oasis]

ninetales

[foggy lodge]

Yeah, Mimikyu?

[molten oasis]

yea saying fluttermane invalidates every fairy is stupid asf lol

[foggy lodge]

But i don't see anyone using Mimikyu now

[dapper crag]

Grimsnarl

[molten oasis]

theres a better fairy ghost

[dapper crag]

Whimsicott

[foggy lodge]

I mean, yeah he is probably the best fairy type but other fairy types still have a niche

[molten oasis]

theres plenty of viable fairies

[foggy lodge]

I mean, do you prefer running Flutter on trick room teams or Primarina?

[molten oasis]

i think the best are a9 primarina and flutter

[dapper crag]

I think florges is slept on, has one of the highest base stat totals

[molten oasis]

if i want a calm mind fairy im not using flutter

[foggy lodge]

I mean, at least he is kind of a physical flutter

[molten oasis]

the stat distrubution is really bad

[foggy lodge]

Worst in every single stat, and is forced to use swords dance to do any damage

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 671: Florges

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Flower Veil, Symbiosis (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/65/68/112/154/75

Total

552

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[foggy lodge]

But it's something i think

[molten oasis]

yeaaaaaaa its just

[foggy lodge]

Hatterene is also good

[molten oasis]

middling speed tier okay special attack awful physical defense and the abilities arent exactly great either

[foggy lodge]

What do you prefer bringing into psyspam, Flutter of Hattrene?

[molten oasis]

hat lol

[foggy lodge]

I think it's an obvious answer

[dapper crag]

Florges could go dummy on a trick room team abusing symbiosis

[molten oasis]

yea but at that point id rather have like

hatt or even cress

[foggy lodge]

Florgess is not good

I've already faced some Florgess

You can just ignore flutter while dropping it's stats with something like snarl while you kill her partners

Ignore Florgess* sorry Lmao

Azumarill probably has the niche of being the real good fairy physical mon¿

If you don't take into consideration Zacian because she is not allowed

[molten oasis]

yea

i think theres lots of room to explore

and understanably people dont

[foggy lodge]

Yeah, i think this regulation is great in terms of variety

I mean Frosmoth won a tournament lmao

[molten oasis]

I lost to a frosmoth, mostly cuz of a missplay but that kinda pissed me off

[upbeat quail]

So I’m on low ladder on showdown team testing, and this dude keeps screaming at me in chat for taking too long to make my decisions

Says I’m delaying the inevitable lol.

Then he close combats his own Incin on accident.

🤡

[silver ravine]

I mean if time is such a big deal, he could've enabled the timer if he hadn't already

[upbeat quail]

He did

And I was using the allowed amount of time

[silver ravine]

I haven't had too many toxic experiences on Showdown. Usually I'm the toxic one, but I just rage on the inside

[upbeat quail]

He still got mad

Sometimes when I lose to random hax and bogus rng I tell my opponent that I hope they step on a LEGO brick.

I’m unhinged, I know

[silver ravine]

Nah sometimes you got to let your knuckles drag and talk yo shit

[zinc perch]

where to make tms in the blueberry academy

[foggy lodge]

True

I don't know how true it is on singles

But almost all singles videos on showdown show some "beating salty dude with Magikarp!!" With a lot of probably fake messages from the showdown chat

[atomic mural]

bro i lost my miraidon to me being dumb and I still won

mostly because my guy doubled by iron bundle as I protected and then I got a crit Flare Blitz On their ogerpon

and then didnt miss a hydro pump

but I digress

[solid folio]

Anyone down to do a 6v6 battle

[whole ibex]

What does Frosmoth do into the current meta?

[whole ibex]

I’m pretty sure they do different things to be fair

[cyan smelt]

I think I need to make a new team, my current team is not doing well

[whole ibex]

I been team building Skeledirge

[cyan smelt]

I'd like to use skeledirge again

[whole ibex]

Have you use it in this reg?

[cyan smelt]

No it seems too hard with so many dark types and flutter and landorus

[molten oasis]

Tera fairy dirge can be ok

[west solstice]

is terapagos good competitively

[mighty stump]

Aside from the Dragon King cup there hasn't been an official format where Terapagos was legal

[cyan smelt]

Wasn't it legal in blueberry prologue

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/d5d1fdd151ec8118
https://pokepast.es/3f9d206373d826bf
Which is better? The 1st team is mine and the 2nd one was featured in Aaron Zheng's recent video 8 days ago

[solid frigate]

Doubles restricted is not bad

single just nope

[mighty stump]

You can't really have an opinion on a non-existent format though

[solid frigate]

thats what i gonna say

its just a speculation.

[mighty stump]

And the only one that allowed Terapagos saw its success

Out of Koraidon/Terapagos/Miraidon

So it's too soon to say in general about a lot of things

[solid frigate]

i was gonna say its a speculation but fine

[mighty stump]

I mean I'm fine with speculating, I just wanna see how you're backing it up too. I don't really have an opinion on a Singles format because I don't play it. But if you weren't referring to the formats and more about 1-Restricted/2-Restricted then theres proof so far of it's performance at least on the 1-Restricted aspect

[fallen garden]

I think being able to clear terrain and weather with a tera is going to make terapagos a really solid pick

[craggy dagger]

but its only once...
per battle which means you could easily reset terrain/weather

[mighty stump]

But it's impactful though

They have to pre-emptively predict when you're going to choose to clear Terrain/Weather

Forcing a switch also reduces opponent momentum

And in your terastalised form, there is no "safe switch in" cause Tera-Starstorm is purely neutral

[craggy dagger]

oh thats true

[mighty stump]

Theoretically i'm wholeheartedly believing Terapagos is good

[autumn vault]

Is it just me or am i seeing a lot of tyranitar recently

Dont get me wrong i love tyranitar and excadrill, but its becoming very common nowadays (i love busting up flutter manes with excadrill so i dont blame them)

[craggy dagger]

sand is a fun achetype

[autumn vault]

Sand is the perfect archetype to counter snow, rock slide goes brrrrr

[craggy dagger]

sun does it better imo-

[autumn vault]

well, one of the perfect archetypes to counter snow

[craggy dagger]

fair enough

[autumn vault]

I dont blame people, bolt and flutter are really good rn and excadrill has a great typing into bolt and sand rush + STAB iron head is great onto flutter

a reason why i used tornadus with tailwind sand rush excadrill so that way i can murder even booster speed flutter

Anyways so i am building another weezing + regigigas team without incin or flutter and so far i have: Regigigas Weezing Bolt Wellspring and I-Moth

[craggy dagger]

moth caught your eye yesterday huh-

[autumn vault]

I despise flutter a lot and i dont want to use it (atleast in reg F, reg G i am not sure) and i will go power herb meteor beam fiery dance sub and energy ball (Blood moon will not get close to it anymore) with 44 evs in hp to set 4 substitutes with 1 hp left

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/107fe0a5afb5563b any 6th member suggestions? I am kind of lost on what the 6th could be

[patent marsh]

something with tailwind maybe?

[autumn vault]

Prankster is disabled in neutralizing gas so i am not too sure that is good

[patent marsh]

am aware

that's why I didn't outright say tornadus

could probably try anything that has tailwind and is naturally fast

[autumn vault]

True

[mighty stump]

Incineroar

Ability Shield

Or Lando-T with Abiliy Shield

Lol

[gentle delta]

@mighty stump did you happen to see what I did yesterday

[mighty stump]

Is that Progatog winner of the Vancouver MSS beating Top 8 player Brandon Davis

👁️

[gentle delta]

BEATING BRIAN COLLINS IN THE PSYSPAM MIRROR

and Aaron Brok in swiss

[mighty stump]

BRIAN COLLINS

[mighty stump]

I would not do Substitute on Moth

[bold geode]

Pretty

[gentle delta]

I sobbed with joy when I won

Collins is my hero

[mighty stump]

I genuinely don't know who he is, but a quick look at twitter was hes another psyspam player from Canada

Neato

Congrats girliepop

[autumn vault]

iron moth is substitute because it can get more survivability off of it and 44 hp evs to set 4 substitutes up

I will go Landorus Therian because i dont want to double up on types (and 4 ground weaknesses is terrible)

[next stump]

RIP so many people right behind me in the Travel Award race cut Vancouver and went really deep

[autumn vault]

RIP

[molten oasis]

Yea, you’re not really getting survivability with sub moth

It’s too physically frail to get it off. Moth just wants to deal fast hard hitting damage imo

[craggy dagger]

also in face of multi hit moves, you just wasted hp

[bold geode]

What's the Dragon Fairy type bruh

[craggy dagger]

wym-
im a latte thats been imfused with dragon and fairy type

[bold geode]

Lol
Iz me

[craggy dagger]

but the only dragon fairy we have atm is mega altaria

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 334: Altaria-Mega

Types

Dragon/Fairy

Abilities

Pixilate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/110/110/105/80

Total

590

Base Species

Altaria

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[bold geode]

Forgot about Mega Altaria

[molten oasis]

So we don’t have a real dragon fairy yet

Oh also

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2088756598 here’s a taste of what I’m cooking

this team was, odd but we’re just better

[autumn vault]

Interesting, ice body Baxcalibur

[craggy dagger]

yeah we dont-
im on copium

[molten oasis]

Lol

[molten oasis]

Yea

You get lefties basically for free and thermal exchange doesn’t feel needed since I have Tera fire

[dapper crag]

- [Fairy/Dragon]

Immune

Dragon

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dark, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Grass, Water

Neutral damage

Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fairy, Ice, Poison, Steel

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[craggy dagger]

thats not too bad actually...

[mellow gale]

Oof just now I kneeled the Champion and Nemona

Both were pretty ez tho

And if I upgrade my disk then my team would be
Charizard
Sceptile
Greninja
Lucario
Garchomp
Jolteon

[mighty stump]

Oh

This isn't the channel for PvE/Casual gameplay content

[molten oasis]

Pretty solid defensive typing

Offensively

[dapper crag]

Fairy, Dragon

Hits for 0.5x

Steel

Hits for 1x

Bug, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Dark, Dragon, Fighting

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

…

At least you hit most for neutral

[craggy dagger]

yeah-

[molten oasis]

A supportive fairy dragon type sounds solid on paper

[craggy dagger]

its a better defensive plus you can hit dragons while being immune to dragons :0

[molten oasis]

Yea lol

regional form of togekiss

[craggy dagger]

ancient togekiss would be cool-

[mighty stump]

I hate Togekiss with a passion

[craggy dagger]

serene grace air slash

its cute-
but its a devil

[molten oasis]

I know lol

What caused the hate?

[mighty stump]

RNG focused all-rounder PoS

[molten oasis]

sorry, PoS?

[mighty stump]

Piece of shit

[willow vault]

I would assume, piece of sh*t

[molten oasis]

Lmao

Serene grace sounds really annoying to deal with tbh

Especially on something that bulky

Anyway, https://pokepast.es/88ccb4f39fb4954a so admittedly lando t was literally doing incin’s job but rn at least I don’t want to be adding incin, so I’ll probably keep lando, before that tho. Suggestions on members for this? I dropped gholdengo, I have never ended up bringing it

With incin, ik they’re not common but I don’t want 4 of my members being weak to rocks

Harc is still, around

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 644: Zekrom

Types

Dragon/Electric

Abilities

Teravolt

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/120/120/100/90

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

Did you fight a zekrom?

Oh, anyone wanna reg g bo3? I wanna try something out

[autumn vault]

Someone is with the computer and no, this isn't a fake out

[molten oasis]

Do you have a phone?

[autumn vault]

I do but i dont have the team on it

[molten oasis]

Have you pasted the team at somepoint in the past?

[autumn vault]

No

[molten oasis]

Huh, I feel like you pasted some kind of zekrom team

Oh well, anyone else?

[autumn vault]

I only have my regigigas team and excadrill tyranitar team on mobile

[ember linden]

I’m down

[molten oasis]

For reg g?

[ember linden]

Oh I didn’t read that lol

I mean I’ll cook something horrible rq

[molten oasis]

Lmao ok

[ember linden]

Is it single restricted or double?

[molten oasis]

Single

It’s just speculation mostly

But I doubt they’ll go double this quick

[ember linden]

What format on showdown do I use?

[molten oasis]

4v4 draft

Make sure they’re all lvl 50

I can give you a team I built if you want

[dapper crag]

Move: Precipice Blades

No additional effect.

Type

Ground

Category

Physical

Power

120

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

ping me when youre ready

[ember linden]

Ok

@molten oasis

[molten oasis]

alr

username?

[ember linden]

Vikxk_VGC

[molten oasis]

got it, do you want to do OTS? we'll need to send OTS pastes

[ember linden]

Idrc

[molten oasis]

alr

[bold geode]

Hakari type mfer

Togekiss really said Restless Gambler

[ember linden]

Just made the most braindead HO lol

[molten oasis]

i noticed lol

ho

[ember linden]

Ggs lol

[molten oasis]

scarf chi yu, my favorite

i thought you were specs tbh

ugh, groudon has been the bane of my existence with every team ive built its getting on my nerves

[ember linden]

Flutter was specs but I forgot to use a specs spread I used the booster set

[molten oasis]

i see

ggs

kinda annoyed but like, its ho

[ember linden]

Imma try and make a balance team

[molten oasis]

alr

[craggy dagger]

gl

[ember linden]

A reg-g one

I already have one for the current format

[craggy dagger]

:0

[ember linden]

@molten oasis run it back

[molten oasis]

alr

[ember linden]

Bro Zama is the goat

[molten oasis]

that crit screwed me god dammit

gg

[ember linden]

I hope Zama is good in reg-g

Ggs

[molten oasis]

i doubt it will cuz zacian exists

i wanna run that back tbh

[ember linden]

Cool with me

[molten oasis]

cool

[ember linden]

Gg

[molten oasis]

fuck this stupid zamazenta man

i cant kill it

[ember linden]

Zama broken 🗣️🔥🔥

[molten oasis]

it OHKOS EVERYTHING

fuck this, snow is ass

pilot better my ass, doesnt matter when your restricted just has a terrible mu into this shit

gholdengo helps? no it fucking doesnt cuz you can just kill it with incin and shifu

im now accounting for that mu from now on, i hate it

bullshit

[ember linden]

You have the tools to beat me

To beat Zama you gotta bait out my tera fire with fusion and surging me

[molten oasis]

uh huh

you have no pressure to tera

except with kyurem

and thats it, otherwise i lose

not like i can fucking lead it safely

ugh

[ember linden]

Kyureum + Urshifu is your best lead, and it’s very flexible

[molten oasis]

ok