little plank
So about that tournament team lol
#competitive_discussion
fallen sky
Hey guys so uh I thought I'd work on my team abit again, I wanna replace ogerpon as like.. even tho I DO like ogerpon and I think it's a pretty good pokemon, it kinda feels cheap using a legendary on the team. I was thinking of a spore pokemon but idk if thatd work for my team sooo any suggestions? (also taking tips on what else too replace, as I just picked pokemon I liked, too use on the team 
)
Also ignore the held items, I'll give them better ones
timber falcon
what format
autumn vault
Hey guys so uh I thought I'd work on my team abit again, I wanna replace ogerpon...
Ogerpon wellspring is ironically 3rd most used pokemon, farigiraf can work, Sylveon although outclassed still sees niche usage, glimmora is seeing good amount of usage and for the others just replace them
fallen sky
Ogerpon wellspring is ironically 3rd most used pokemon, farigiraf can work, Sylv...
Ah alr, just curious tho is there any way I could keep vaporeon? As uh I did use vitamins on it, like maybe changing ogerpons mask or smth?
autumn vault
Ah alr, just curious tho is there any way I could keep vaporeon? As uh I did use...
Vaporeon sees 0.02% usage and it seems it's a calm mind scald tera blast user
fallen sky
Vaporeon sees 0.02% usage and it seems it's a calm mind scald tera blast user
Oh 
I mean you were right about the scald part but I was using a set up another person recommended
autumn vault
Oh <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
I mean you were right about the scald par...
Acid armor boosts your defense stat by +2, i would reccomend remove Wish for calm mind to be a stronger wall and wall breaker
fallen sky
Acid armor boosts your defense stat by +2, i would reccomend remove Wish for cal...
Alr thx, shouldn't be too hard too give it calm mind instead
gentle cragBOT
Alr thx, shouldn't be too hard too give it calm mind instead
kingscribblecat has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky
fallen sky
urshifu
Not tryna be rude but im pretty sure that's still considered a legendary pokemon, and I wanted too get rid of ogerpon for being a legend
patent marsh
Not tryna be rude but im pretty sure that's still considered a legendary pokemon...
yea was joking thus the
patent marsh
Oh <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
I mean you were right about the scald par...
is this for singles or doubles
fallen sky
is this for singles or doubles
Doubles, as I prefer those
Also alr I couldn't tell 😭
patent marsh
then don't think baton pass set that gud since setting up and passing those stat buffs can be pretty difficult especially for vaporeon when we have a decent amount of grass type relevancy
rillaboom n ogerpon have grassy glide which can be really difficult for such a set to play around which then forces you to always have giraffe up front to stop that but preserving 🦒 imo does it better overall than risking it to try n set up n pass the buffs over
cyan smelt
A decent amount of pokemon have taunt too
patent marsh
if vaporeon is the deal breaker to replace then you should definitely look into zekrom's suggestion of the statistics from pikalytics and build from there
fallen sky
if vaporeon is the deal breaker to replace then you should definitely look into ...
Alr will do, thx
gentle cragBOT
Alr will do, thx
kingscribblecat has given 1 Gen Rep to kumicharizard
patent marsh
A decent amount of pokemon have taunt too
yea torn, flutter, urshifu dark, rillaboom, incineroar and a few other mid to low usage mons have it
cyan smelt
I'm thinking non prankster ones as well
patent marsh
I mean out of the few I did mention only torn has prankster
cyan smelt
True
mighty stump
Hey guys so uh I thought I'd work on my team abit again, I wanna replace ogerpon...
I want to suggest to also reframe your perspective and be aware that you’re well within your rights to use favourites/preferred picks, with the resulting consequence being a larger struggle in climbing/winning games in ranked
mighty stump
Acid armor boosts your defense stat by +2, i would reccomend remove Wish for cal...
With that moveset it’s not really wallbreaking since it’ll be walled by Waterpon
autumn vault
With that moveset it’s not really wallbreaking since it’ll be walled by Waterpon
I was referring to pokemon with the stat buffs that Vaporeon gets and baton passes it to
but that is true
Anyways, i will test banded regigigas with crush grip next to weezing soon
Felt like L-Orb isn't that good on it, especially with Double Edge
tera normal crush grip choice band ohkos a lot of meta pokemon
I am aware of it's drawback but weezing can finish them off IF the opponent is left with low health
autumn vault
the 1st one is a redesigned team
The 2nd one is my Original Regigigas rental i posted a month ago
solid frigate
the 1st one is a redesigned team
The 2nd one is my Original Regigigas rental i p...
i feel like the one with Incin is better
cuz you have more support options
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2086645055-g2vl8bklyevv2adqqakap1ock3gqx12pw
Also i saw this team three times in a row
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2086645055-g2vl8bklyevv2adqqa...
is that a Rental Team?
autumn vault
i feel like the one with Incin is better
True, but i can lower attack stats in neutralizing gas
solid frigate
Its a team i am seeing everywhere
volcarona,rillaboom,Incineroar,Urshifu Rapid,Bolt and Pao....
i actualy don't know if its a rental team or anytthing
autumn vault
well i still need to hear more opinions on the redesigned team
solid frigate
rn i just need couple adjustments on my Restricted
autumn vault
^
solid frigate
wait does neutralising Gas effect Protosynthesis
solid frigate
OHHHHH HOHO
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2086649347 well crush grip did come useful, not at it's full potential
Maybe i should stay with life orb and tera stellar
autumn vault
I am now at 1400 rating with my team
i have seen a tera stellar regigigas in a YT video
willow vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2086645055-g2vl8bklyevv2adqqa...
Why did they not thunderclap earlier? They took so much unnecessary damage
autumn vault
Why did they not thunderclap earlier? They took so much unnecessary damage
What i thought
I am retesing my regigigas team to see if it kept up or needed changes
willow vault
I am now at 1400 rating with my team
Nice, curious is that bo1 or bo3?
autumn vault
Nice, curious is that bo1 or bo3?
Bo1
willow vault
Nice
autumn vault
Honestly i am glad to see my team kept up
Needs 0 changes
One of the changs is Inineroar hardly ever being used like gouging
willow vault
Honestly i am glad to see my team kept up
Nice to here that
autumn vault
Nice to here that
Happens to a lot of teams, glad mine didn't fall prey to it
willow vault
It’s a very cool team, I’m glad protosynthesis has finally been patched around neutralising gas
autumn vault
And Quark Drive
willow vault
Happens to a lot of teams, glad mine didn't fall prey to it
Unfortunately
willow vault
And Quark Drive
Pretty much the same ability, but glad that’s also been patched
autumn vault
Pretty much the same ability, but glad that’s also been patched
And also Orichalcum Pulse and Hadron Engine
For some reason they werent affected before
willow vault
I wonder if we will ever get a special version of intimidate that lowers the opponents special attack
autumn vault
Anyways its now spring break, now i have time to build a team in game to post a rental of
willow vault
Spring break?
autumn vault
Its a tyranitar houndstone team that won me a showdown room tour
willow vault
Like Easter?
autumn vault
Like Easter?
I think so
willow vault
Oh ok, mines not till after next week so have fun
autumn vault
Oh ok, mines not till after next week so have fun
Mine actually starts next week on Monday, that is when it starts, i included the weekends because its when my break actually starts
willow vault
Oh cool, have a nice break
autumn vault
You too Crephace
https://pokepast.es/8f388c05407c8289 here is the team btw
note: Tyranitar in Trick Room is busted af
solid frigate
I am now at 1400 rating with my team
same but with my team
but doubles Ubers so yeah don't count
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/8f388c05407c8289 here is the team btw
Why houndstone
molten oasis
note: Tyranitar in Trick Room is busted af
You haven’t fought a gallade or ursaluna then
autumn vault
Why houndstone
i was on 5 members and needed a sand abuser, houndstone also does all right in trick room and it nerfs physical attackers
autumn vault
You haven’t fought a gallade or ursaluna then
true
plus houndstone's howl buffs tyranitar a lot
rock slides become powerful as fuck
molten oasis
Mhmm
autumn vault
besides hardly anyone has experience against houndstone
and its a decent late game sweeper
i won a tour with houndstone
Not Excadrill however
molten oasis
besides hardly anyone has experience against houndstone
That is not a reason to use houndstone
autumn vault
That is not a reason to use houndstone
It does great in the sand and trick room, it can be good in both worlds
autumn vault
its ev'd to outspeed scarf jolly urshifu in sand and underspeeds it in normal circumstances,
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
autumn vault
What does it do in trick room
the usual burn howl last respects
molten oasis
It’s base 68
It’s not good in tr
Ttar is the tr answer
Technically cuz yiu don’t outspeed anything
underspeed
autumn vault
Technically cuz yiu don’t outspeed anything
in trick room it can outspeed faster threats
otherwise underspeed
molten oasis
Ok, what trick room team has things faster than houndstone
Plus why do you ever bring houndstone if you’re going tr mode unless it’s closing
autumn vault
Howl spam
molten oasis
Yea cuz houndstone really helps Bloodmoon with howls
autumn vault
I love spamming howl and will o wisp to annoy pthers
I never bring houndstone without tyranitar
autumn vault
Ok, what trick room team has things faster than houndstone
Armarouge
molten oasis
Why do you have Bloodmoon then
autumn vault
Synergizes well with Farigiraf
molten oasis
Why do you have farigiraf
autumn vault
For trick room mode
Besides i found that tyranitar and farigiraf ae a duo to not underestimate
molten oasis
single strike shifu would disagree
molten oasis
ok, I’m not picking at this team anymore, it’s not a archetype I know of I just don’t think that houndstone is very good
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
autumn vault
Atleast it has decent support
molten oasis
You’re literally forced to use last respects
autumn vault
And destiny bond can get a sneaky KO
molten oasis
That’s all it has going for it and gouging fire exists
Which would be better here. And you’re point in houndstone being a tr answer does not work if you only bring it with ttar
molten oasis
And destiny bond can get a sneaky KO
So this is a gimmick then
autumn vault
I never said it was a tr counter, it does all right in trick room and has great synergy with tyranitar and wellspring thx to howl and will o wisp
molten oasis
It does alright when sand isn’t up
Which as you stated earlier isn’t gonna happen
And even WITH Tera single strike shifu and a form a redirection or speed control kinda suck
bold geode
molten oasis
Torn shifu (dark) would love to see a team like this tbh
molten oasis
molten oasis
Torn shifu (dark) would love to see a team like this tbh
Assuming you don’t bring Fariluna
autumn vault
Torn shifu (dark) would love to see a team like this tbh
Bolt is a decent urshifu (r) counter and again, i have tera fairy tera blast for a reason
molten oasis
yiu have Tera blast on bolt?
autumn vault
No, on tyranitar
molten oasis
And also tera reliant answers aren’t consistent
Not bad
Inconsistent
Cuz unless you want the Tera to only go to ttar you’re not always gonna have that option
autumn vault
And also **tera reliant answers aren’t consistent**
It is a bit when the pokemon in mind has one of the worst types to ever exist, that is true but it's atleast a counter
autumn vault
No
autumn vault
It’s not an option you’re always gonna have
True, but i lead tyranitar a lot so its an option that is most of the time there
molten oasis
Why do you have stomping tantrum on ttar what is that even for
autumn vault
To punish incineroar fake outs (without fari) and do a good chunk of damage on it
molten oasis
And that sure does plenty at -1
autumn vault
iirc it does around 60%
Way more than what high horsepower can achieve after a flinch
molten oasis
Are you faster than the average incin
autumn vault
I ran a 4 speed ev tyranitar
And it outspeed every incin i battled (with the 4 evs in speed)
molten oasis
There is no way
Incin runs more speed than 0
Usually, are you in low ladder per chance?
Incin runs a little bit of speed
autumn vault
Usually, are you in low ladder per chance?
Around 1400 rating
On the switch ladder master rank
autumn vault
Lower half
molten oasis
What about on showdown
autumn vault
1400 elo on showdown
molten oasis
That’s low elo
autumn vault
I said it before
willow vault
What’s not low elo?
molten oasis
1500/1600
willow vault
Cool
molten oasis
I said it before
Yiu said 1400 then rating on cart
autumn vault
Yiu said 1400 then rating on cart
On cart its master rank
Besides i havent been playing competitive for a while
molten oasis
I need more context next time then cuz that confused me
Yiu just said rating
Not showdown rating
autumn vault
Yiu just said rating
I see
SD rating is around 1400 elo
On cart its the top tier (master)
molten oasis
Ok, so low elo
Meaning evs usually aren’t like, great
My incin hits 84, the one in the calculator I use hits 91
Incin doesn’t run 0 speed usually
It does also seem that you’re just using CTS to your advantage which is fine, the team is worse when people know what they’re fighting
In OTS
anyway I have to write an essay, enjoy the team I’m not gonna try to convince you about not using houndstone as I don’t really know much about the sand archetype
autumn vault
I will admit houndstone wasn't being that great, getting of 1 or 2 howls and maybe a will o wisp and then dying
It is trash but it has a decent role
chrome knot
man if only there was a fire/dragon type with insane staying power that had howl
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.26.0
molten oasis
chrome knot
ur mid !!!
chrome knot
vine boom
chrome knot
if ur mid that makes me vry bad
molten oasis
Trash
bold geode
I have no plans on denying it
Yuji ass attitude
Yeah I did it
mighty stump
Nah 1500s is dece
chrome knot
its ok i have 3 digit points count
bold geode
Higuruma gonna get Tofu off of mid allegations
mighty stump
I'm slowly also coming to the slow realisation ratings isn't everything
It paints a good sketch, irony in the metaphor intended
molten oasis
I do not care about my rating that much
I care more about w/l
And gxe
if it’s 60% I’m doing something right
mighty stump
Yea
foggy lodge
Hiiiii i'm in a tournament that it's theme is playing with pokemon exclusive of a region, i'm playing with Hoenn and i wanted to ask what do you think of this team
autumn vault
WHAT ARE ALL OF YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Trash as hell
foggy lodge
The format is doubles but not vgc, is doubles 6v6, and i can only use a restricted and a minor legendary
autumn vault
I never did calcs until a few weeks ago
molten oasis
Hiiiii i'm in a tournament that it's theme is playing with pokemon exclusive of ...
welp
Time to dive in
Are there better grass types than shiftry?
Grass dark is so bad lol
well ig in the case of chlorophyll no
foggy lodge
The only other option is Ludicolo
And as a gimmick one Sceptile and Breelom
Breelom would be good i think, spore is always good
molten oasis
Miraidon 💀
Wait wha?
Oh
So someone gets gen 1 and 2 they’re absolutely cooked
And gen 9 gets miraidon
Gen 8 gets zacian
Gen 6 gets xern
autumn vault
*if it’s 60% I’m doing something right*
Agreed
dull ibex
showdown stream?
molten oasis
dull ibex
molten oasis
What?
autumn vault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDMiTZ_d2Vs 🤔
I watched it and sand is D tier (bottom) as the worst of the 20
molten oasis
Yea
dull ibex
that makes sense
molten oasis
Cuz sand isn’t very good lol
autumn vault
True
molten oasis
I watched Niels video on it
dull ibex
https://youtu.be/Wra6uUv7Sss?t=586 adapting the timestamped six
autumn vault
But its cracked in the right circumstances and in the right hands
dull ibex
he says chimane is goated so I wanted to try it
molten oasis
Literally waited for what he had to say about set up balance and stopped lol
dull ibex
(I like flutteryu)
molten oasis
It is a lot of immediate offensive pressure
dull ibex
But its cracked in the right circumstances and in the right hands
doesnt make it good tbf
autumn vault
Literally waited for what he had to say about set up balance and stopped lol
Same but with sand
dull ibex
my favorite archetype is consistently good 😎
molten oasis
But its cracked in the right circumstances and in the right hands
Yea by that logic spidops is someone’s #1 Pokémon
autumn vault
doesnt make it good tbf
I know, there are team cores that are bad but can shine (looking at you weezing + regigigas)
molten oasis
my favorite archetype is consistently good 😎
You’re favorite archetype is HO
dull ibex
sun
molten oasis
Oh it’s sun?
autumn vault
Mine is Sand, weezing and tr
dull ibex
rain was my go to for a while
dull ibex
Have you tried wake chi Yu torn before?
I think so
timber falcon
anyone have a nice AV bolt set?
autumn vault
anyone have a nice AV bolt set?
Drago has ons
timber falcon
Drago u there?
autumn vault
Yes he is here
molten oasis
no I’m not
autumn vault
https://pokebin.com/8cd89259eafa2e7c this paste has the bolt set (its also a good team)
timber falcon
https://pokebin.com/8cd89259eafa2e7c this paste has the bolt set (its also a goo...
yoink
dull ibex
My favorite teams ive played are kenukoal and clops tr
molten oasis
Oh, if you want calcs for that I have a blog up with a rundown of the team/Mon
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/158f9be73822e164 so ive spent the past few days trying out palafin and i think this set has what it takes
molten oasis
Like, bad dumb or good dumb?
dull ibex
dmax venusaur.
molten oasis
Sash torn
dull ibex
soory G max venusaur
timber falcon
oh
molten oasis
And bleakwind is just valuable chip damage
timber falcon
And bleakwind is just valuable chip damage
rly? cause lately ive had torns really hurt my team. not as in chip but 2HKO potential
molten oasis
That’s what I meant by valuable chip
timber falcon
Cloak it is, wouldnt like fake out stopping me from setting
molten oasis
Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Icy Wind
- Tailwind
- Taunt
The one tofu has in his rental also works
timber falcon
Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EV...
Thank a you
gentle cragBOT
Thank a you
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
timber falcon
I’d sac icy wind, taunt is valuable sometimes ig
Also can gambit be replaced for durshifu?
Or does gambit stay
autumn vault
Personally i would keep the rain and replace gambit for rapid urshifu
if there is 0 rain then yes dark urshifu
timber falcon
Personally i would keep the rain and replace gambit for rapid urshifu
But then that would destroy the point of palafin
molten oasis
There is quite literally no reason to run palafin then lol
(Rapid strike makes this team a lot better btw)
timber falcon
Yes I know, but the goal is to see if palafin has what it takes
And if I’m being honest, it’s a struggle 
molten oasis
Yea, shifu lol
timber falcon
It’s a struggle yeah, but I so think it’s possible. I mean if you’re at the bottom of the barrel the only way is up
autumn vault
It’s a struggle yeah, but I so think it’s possible. I mean if you’re at the bott...
true
either that or stay at the bottom
timber falcon
Mhm
autumn vault
molten oasis
Alr
Now that the gapdos team is finished
I think the next will be centered around snow
solid frigate
noice
autumn vault
I think the next will be centered around snow
Good luck on that
autumn vault
100% alolan Ninetales and Articuno
molten oasis
It’s funny you think I’m using articuno
Even tho it won a regional I still don’t really think it’s good
autumn vault
well it won a regional, that is something
molten oasis
It’s alright
mighty stump
Tyo had to dodge a few really bad matchups to get it done
molten oasis
That is my opinion
mighty stump
It was a good c-team to the metagame though
molten oasis
I just really don’t think articuno is all that good
solid frigate
It’s alright
baxcalibur should be in this team i think,just thinking cuz it feels criminal not to use it
solid frigate
or both but your choice
molten oasis
well no bundle ruins my life too much
solid frigate
so regular Bax set?
molten oasis
Idk yet
I’m debating if I want to do ddance or swords dance
I think loaded dice is kinda eh
autumn vault
You will use A9 right? (stupidest question i have ever made)
molten oasis
But im 100% doubt clear amulet
molten oasis
You will use A9 right? (stupidest question i have ever made)
I said I’m using snow
Also a9 is my second favorite Mon ever
It’s going to be the setter lol
solid frigate
majestic fox
autumn vault
Also a9 is my second favorite Mon ever
For once we completely disagree on something (I hate it)
solid frigate
i'm helping someone to make a Restricted team they want Dialga for Solo Restricted and Lunala for 2 restricted
molten oasis
Tr restricted team
solid frigate
Tr restricted team
got it
dull ibex
autumn vault
<:huh:1062504579931066378>
I like A-Vulpix but hate A9
dull ibex
auto correct didnt turn off
solid frigate
I like A-Vulpix but hate A9
ok wha-
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/1c3ad6f61a04b1d7 DID IT
Looks solid
dull ibex
agreed
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/1c3ad6f61a04b1d7 DID IT
Looks great
molten oasis
True
A9 in unite is awesome
Also the ingame sprite is fine lol
3d does ruin like every Mon tbf
solid frigate
why do i have a want to help him build Rillaboom Torkal
molten oasis
Should have stayed 2d smh
dull ibex
eh I dont agree
molten oasis
ok maybe not every
solid frigate
but then again incin is here so-
dull ibex
im gonna be honest thinking they could have stayed 2d is a delusional take imo
molten oasis
Koraidon looks awesome
autumn vault
A9 looks like a snow dog that jumped into water
molten oasis
That’s mean
dull ibex
A9 looks like a snow dog that jumped into water
no you're right though
molten oasis
oh, if I do a9, is Bax the niche pick
I’m not using mamoswine
That typing fucking blows
solid frigate
wait is rillaboom good on tr or should i use Amogus
autumn vault
I’m not using mamoswine
Fun fact about Mamoswine: In 2013 the winning team had a Mamoswine without evs on it (Basically the fuck you to evs and winning)
molten oasis
That’s funny
solid frigate
now i need water type for water fire grass core
molten oasis
Urshifu
solid frigate
Wait Urshifu>
autumn vault
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 100 Def Ursaluna on a critical hit: 186-222 (78.4 - 93.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
A good ursaluna build to tank a surging strikes
solid frigate
i'm using tr
molten oasis
You can still@run urshifu
I forgot the one weakness with snow is dealing with ice types defensively
mighty stump
If you want a bulky Ursaluna
Ursaluna @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 140 HP / 28 Atk / 204 Def / 132 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Facade
- Headlong Rush
- Swords Dance
- Protect
molten oasis
Oo
mighty stump
252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 140 HP / 204 Def Ursaluna on a critical hit: 186-222 (83.4 - 99.5%) -- approx. 18.8% chance to OHKO after burn damage
252 SpA Iron Bundle Hydro Pump vs. 140 HP / 132 SpD Ursaluna: 186-222 (83.4 - 99.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after burn damage
16x-1 HP optimised for Burn
So you live without the Burn damage.
autumn vault
It's an ursaluna with a howl gouging fire
mighty stump
Buys time for Lunar Blessing.
autumn vault
Plus i like 252 hp ursaluna here
mighty stump
I mean if you're calcing bulk, mine is just more optimal
molten oasis
I’m tempted to do volcarona or goltres but I don’t want the core immediately hating rocks
although tbf snow hates rocks anyway
autumn vault
Its more of a "Up to date" build
dont get me wrong surviving urshifu is definetely good, but bundle is like 1% usage rn
molten oasis
I think raging bolt is required to handle shifu torn
mighty stump
But don't come crying to me when Ursaluna gets nuked by a SpA move
molten oasis
(I’m thinking out loud don’t mind me)
autumn vault
But don't come crying to me when Ursaluna gets nuked by a SpA move
I am calcing on it to survive a SpA move actually
solid frigate
wouldn't be funny if i put Tasugiri with storm drain to make it sucks up the water from Kyogre
( i phrase it badly sorry)
autumn vault
why does it tank every hit i try to calc on?
mighty stump
I mean idk what you're calcing at the moment that hits harder than an SE STAB 120 BP move from base 124 SpA
autumn vault
252 SpA Iron Bundle Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 128 SpD Ursaluna: 188-224 (79.3 - 94.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after burn damage
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 100 Def Ursaluna on a critical hit: 186-222 (78.4 - 93.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
molten oasis
hmm, if I do ddance Bax what should it outspeed at +1
autumn vault
with 28 attack brave
molten oasis
Idt scarfshifu is worthwhile
mighty stump
252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 100 Def Ursaluna on a critical hit: 204-252 (86 - 106.3%) -- approx. 12.5% chance to OHKO
Yours is less physically bulky than mine lol
autumn vault
i can see why
mighty stump
Plus your HP isn't Burn optimised either
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/8e0d2b3f201af6fc
Currently the team i am making
autumn vault
i forgot about that actually existing
molten oasis
Probabky just flutter
solid frigate
i forgot about that actually existing
i forgot i existed
molten oasis
220 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 100 HP / 68 SpD Baxcalibur through Aurora Veil: 169-201 (83.2 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO neat
autumn vault
i forgot i existed
I forgot my beef with flutter mane
mighty stump
Mfw people try to tell me my spread isn't optimal
solid frigate
I forgot my beef with flutter mane
i don't know what Water types i should use in Trick Room-
gentle cragBOT
Result: 247.500000
molten oasis
noted
mighty stump
i don't know what Water types i should use in Trick Room-
Azumarill
autumn vault
Mfw people try to tell me my spread isn't optimal
I never said that your spread isn't optimal, i just don't like on how much you put into it's defense (and its for a good reason ik) and bundle isn't as common as it was
mighty stump
Slowbro/King
mighty stump
Palkia.
solid frigate
Palkia.
about that,my friend asked to use Dialga and Lunala for Restricted so yeah... thats why i am stuck
mighty stump
I never said that your spread isn't optimal, i just don't like on how much you p...
The point you're missing is that it's not about Bundle
Its the maximum threshold point
mighty stump
about that,my friend asked to use Dialga and Lunala for Restricted so yeah... th...
Then just slap Azumarill on there, no harm there
Damage is damage
solid frigate
Then just slap Azumarill on there, no harm there
huge Power Azu with Band?
autumn vault
140 hp is the max for burn optimization?
mighty stump
16x-1 is for burn optimisation
molten oasis
108+ SpA Raging Bolt Draco Meteor vs. 100 HP / 68 SpD Baxcalibur through Aurora Veil: 160-189 (78.8 - 93.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO huh
mighty stump
huge Power Azu with Band?
Band, LO, Belly Drum + Sitrus, Clear Amulet
molten oasis
Bax is bulky damn
mighty stump
AV
solid frigate
Band, LO, Belly Drum + Sitrus, Clear Amulet
ok
ok final slot i can do something cheeky
autumn vault
Ursaluna @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 140 HP / 28 Atk / 204 Def / 132 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Facade
- Headlong Rush
- Swords Dance
- Protect
I will keep this set incase i need an ursaluna soon, also i was trying to calc differently because i was using a howl gouging fire with ursaluna, it has fari as the tr setter but i will save this on a cress tr team with ursaluna
solid frigate
ah
also i feel like i always forgot mind's Eye on Bloodmoon always hits Ghost types-
autumn vault
also i feel like i always forgot mind's Eye on Bloodmoon always hits Ghost types...
and also remember it ignores accuracy checks (cannot decrease accuracy and ignores evasion buffs and it's most optimal moves are 100% accurate)
except against snow cloak articuno
it will miss 25% of the time against an articuno in snow
molten oasis
252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 152 HP / 108 SpD Baxcalibur: 175-208 (83.7 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
What is this Mon lmao
autumn vault
What is this Mon lmao
Godzilla covered in snow
mighty stump
Just remember not to go too hard in bulk without damage
Unless you got like
good setup
or you can slowplay
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/eabeb04fc50a0f1d
Should i have houndstone or gouging fire?
molten oasis
Idk what I need ti naturally wipe thi without ddance
Probably bolt (if possible)
And at +1 I need ti make sure crash ohkos flutter
Ok well at +1 it does lol
Ohko bolt
+1 0 Atk Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 129-153 (82.1 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO i hate this thing
next stump
0ATK jolly what the
mighty stump
Pure bulk go brr
molten oasis
0ATK jolly what the
I’m just doing calcs rn
autumn vault
+1 36 Atk Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 133-157 (84.7 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
WTF
molten oasis
That just tells me the amount of investment I need for ohkoing a flutter at +1
mighty stump
Adamant
molten oasis
Okay lmao
autumn vault
+1 36+ Atk Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 145-172 (92.3 - 109.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Much better
molten oasis
Well, ill outspeed lando at +1
autumn vault
+1 140+ Atk Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 157-186 (100 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The max needed
mighty stump
Lando cries at Ice Shard
autumn vault
Lando cries at Ice Shard
+1 140+ Atk Baxcalibur Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 252-300 (153.6 - 182.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
perfectly accurate
autumn vault
+1 0 Atk Baxcalibur Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 204-244 (124.3 - 148.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Cry Landorus-Incarnate, cry
molten oasis
Like, swords dance shard glaive rush protect?
molten oasis
I have blizzard spam as well with a9
Hmm
I’ll try that
+2 ice shard should be hitting fairly hard in general
I live mane things behind veil
mighty stump
I wonder where was the team
Ability: Ice Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 92 Def / 156 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Ice Shard
- High Horsepower
- Protect```@molten oasis This was the old set when Heatran was relevant
Lol
molten oasis
when heatran was relevant lol
mighty stump
252+ SpA Pixie Plate Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Baxcalibur through Aurora Veil: 187-221 (84.2 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The Def? Forgor
Probably a dump
molten oasis
I’ll check shifu
molten oasis
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 92 Def Baxcalibur in Snow through Aurora Veil: 97-116 (43.6 - 52.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Ice Body recovery
That’s crazy lol
molten oasis
Unless you seem to meet more Wisp Incins
I’ve noticed it a bit more but not enough to worry about it yet
atomic mural
+1 0 Atk Baxcalibur Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 204-244 (124.3 - 148.7%...
yo can you battle
bold geode
Unless you seem to meet more Wisp Incins
What's your opinion on Eweb Bolt?
bold geode
and reduces the momentum TW HO tries to setup
Yeah I got it on my team rn to help Lando I out and I haven't noticed it helping Harc with notable stuff, but I feel like there's probably something I'm missing
molten oasis
One of these days I’ll get lando t to work
Anyway, https://pokepast.es/7c81cb323464a5d4 variant 1
Gholdengo returns, we love dengo
bold geode
I've thought about Clear Amulet Lando T
molten oasis
well, can’t do CA and idk how badly I want to do scarf
bold geode
Yeah tbf Lando T was in a weird speed tier in the meta
molten oasis
Admittedly incarnate is better but also
I want the genie tiger to work I kinda miss it lol
If anyone has noticed a pattern it literally shows up on so many first variants of my teams lol
molten oasis
Yeah tbf Lando T was in a weird speed tier in the meta
Shifu becoming a scarf Mon kinda caused it’s downfall imo
autumn vault
yo can you battle
Yes actually
bold geode
Shifu becoming a scarf Mon kinda caused it’s downfall imo
It coming back though
People realizing shit still good
molten oasis
Lando t?
mighty stump
I'm cooking
molten oasis
Ooo garchomp
atomic mural
Yes actually
you wanna do open team sheet or nah
molten oasis
Monke why do you often disappear when I respond to you lol
autumn vault
we just do custom game
Ok
autumn vault
I am Lycopoky Slimesy in showdown
autumn vault
you do have to put your team under the reg f for no ev option
wait what?
molten oasis
If it feels bad I’ll try scarf and swap out shifu
If that feels bad I’ll switch to incarnate
atomic mural
wait what?
put you team under Regualtion f vgc doubles in the team builder
so you can send a no ev poke paste
autumn vault
put you team under Regualtion f vgc doubles in the team builder
yes
bold geode
If that feels bad I’ll switch to incarnate
Just make the move lmao
autumn vault
so you can send a no ev poke paste
Without evs?
molten oasis
No
bold geode
Become infected with Sheer Force funny moments
molten oasis
I want Therian to work
atomic mural
Without evs?
yeah so you cant just calculate everything and waste time
autumn vault
also easier to see
done, now what
molten oasis
Also incarnate is so ugly
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/314a0756c16def0f is the team without evs
atomic mural
bold geode
So unhinged
Me who made Upper Hand Infernape Dnite combo
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/314a0756c16def0f is the team without evs
alright whats your user
mighty stump
This is worse
autumn vault
alright whats your user
Lycopoky Slimesy
autumn vault
nearly the same corny
atomic mural
bro why does earth power do so much to assault vest rillaboom 💀
autumn vault
idk
molten oasis
Cuz lando I is stupid
autumn vault
thats busted af
autumn vault
you up for best of 3
sure why not
atomic mural
alright
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublescustomgame-2086880369-31lv3co1htr7miidgw51kc5mrpheg27pw wow that freeze didnt mean anything 💀
autumn vault
landorus waking up mattered
atomic mural
yeah
autumn vault
maybe i shouldn't use ddance zekrom
atomic mural
hold on whats your zekroms speed evs
autumn vault
supposed to be max
atomic mural
also you should probably be tera water on amoongus
autumn vault
didn't you say 0 evs?
atomic mural
bruh
autumn vault
i forgot the tera for moonguss
atomic mural
NOT THE POKEMON
i meant to show the ots version of poke paste
so it dosent show your evs
autumn vault
true
atomic mural
yeah please do
autumn vault
done
atomic mural
hold on just checking something
autumn vault
atleast we now know why EP from landorus did so much damage
atomic mural
yeah lmao
mighty stump
You know if you pick 4v4 Draft it forces 4 slots to be picked right
autumn vault
i see
autumn vault
can you go with 4v4 draft pls?
atomic mural
the combo of incin miraidon iron bundle and landorus I is insane
autumn vault
I just had a bad matchup to your team thats all
atomic mural
well yeah but just in general its pretty strong
autumn vault
I changed zekrom's tera to flying
Besides a dragon dance + d claw could ohko miraidon anyway
atomic mural
yeah.. but like why
autumn vault
yeah.. but like why
Why what?
atomic mural
tera fairy is def the best for any electric dragon
ik flying gives you a better matchup into landorus I
but glimmora could be replaced by something else
atomic mural
I need a rock to beat flyers and ice types
flying types you have zekrom and ice you have incin and urhifu
like you can just close combat iron bundles
autumn vault
I know that
I am playing Kirby and The Forgotten Land rn so i cant reply super fast
autumn vault
I have to rescue 6 waddle dees and then i rescue all 300
atomic mural
also if you really have trouble against ice and flying types you could replace amoongus with chien-pao
atomic mural
I have to rescue 6 waddle dees and then i rescue all 300
nice
atomic mural
also yeah chien pao would make your teams mu against landorus I much better
and it can let zekrom due much more damage
autumn vault
also yeah chien pao would make your teams mu against landorus I much better
Back to topic, that is true
atomic mural
and amoongus is just useless once electric terrain is up. sleep is rarely gonna come into play
autumn vault
And it can deal wih miraidon decently
atomic mural
yeah
molten oasis
:/
atomic mural
lmao
autumn vault
I can
molten oasis
The one time im in the mood
atomic mural
lol
autumn vault
Did you just said nah
I changed my thoughts
autumn vault
I was playing Kirby but i can resume it later
molten oasis
If that’s cool with you
autumn vault
User? Also reg g
Lycopoky Slimesy
molten oasis
K
atomic mural
quick replace amoongus with chien pao
autumn vault
done
autumn vault
quick replace amoongus with chien pao
Nah, i will replace glimm for chien
battle between me and drago
foggy lodge
I need a new reg please
I love regulation F, there is a lot of archertypes that are actually viable
Probably the best regulation of the game so far
But i need a change and i want to play with the funny new toy (Miraidon)
atomic mural
YESS
next stump
reg F started super fun but once people found the strong balance comp, it became a bit boring
raging bolt is so broken
atomic mural
can wait for miraidon to be way worse 😎
foggy lodge
At least Raikou is technically viable for the first time since gen 2
atomic mural
it is?
chrome knot
reg F started super fun but once people found the strong balance comp, it became...
running back to hard tr made reg fun again ngl
im excited for orlando
molten oasis
Ggs
atomic mural
dang
atomic mural
like not having tera flying
atomic mural
and with chien pao your landorus mu is way better to handle
autumn vault
I think maybe i should make zekrom a scarfed one
foggy lodge
Tera flying is kinda bad, fsiry good
It doesn't add any resistance
next stump
it’s crazy how TR sweeps all these minor regionals and then never really tops big ones, hopefully that changes in vancouver
molten oasis
raging bolt is so broken
Can’t argue that
foggy lodge
The same with tera Ground
chrome knot
it’s crazy how TR sweeps all these minor regionals and then never really tops bi...
ruby & victoria are there i believe in them both to do great
molten oasis
And electric sucker punch
next stump
australia hard TR was great, Brazil hard TR got finals, but in NA and EU it’s barely making day 2
fun fact I’ve played Victoria on the showdown ladder like 10 times this week
molten oasis
Also @autumn vault I think I got you with the switch
next stump
we must be playing at the same time or something lol
chrome knot
i think shes just like 24/7 player lmfao
molten oasis
Like, incin wasn’t doing anything so I felt like it made sense to just checkmate that spot
next stump
I feel bad because my Brave 0SPE Urshifu one shot her Ursaluna under TR Lol
molten oasis
I think the team is solid but flying Tera on zekrom is not it
chrome knot
pfft
molten oasis
Lol
chrome knot
why are you 0 0 urshifu
next stump
global challenge baby
chrome knot
somebody @ windsor mss had a freaky ass 0 0 ogerpon
molten oasis
Oh is the a gc rn?
next stump
running smeargle/torkoal/farig/urshifu
autumn vault
I need to remove rillaboom
chrome knot
euww ur a creature omg
autumn vault
Wait is there a GC going on rn
foggy lodge
Smeargle is so fun but now it's so bad
molten oasis
What is bad about rilla here?
next stump
i played balance for the last two GC’s and did bad hahaha
autumn vault
What is bad about rilla here?
shares grass with amoonguss
next stump
time to become the cheeser
atomic mural
then dont have amoonguss
molten oasis
Drop amoonguss lol
foggy lodge
Smeargle only works on console ladder
next stump
eject pack smeargle
foggy lodge
shares grass with amoonguss
Ah then yeah
autumn vault
Drop amoonguss lol
for what?
foggy lodge
Teams always have Ogerpon + Rillaboom or Amoonguss
chrome knot
time to become the cheeser
driving to ur house and blowing up ur switch if i match vs you NGL
foggy lodge
Not Rillaboom and Amoonguss
autumn vault
To remove miraidon's terrain i need either indeedee or rillaboom
molten oasis
Pao baybee
autumn vault
i already run ice spinner on chien pao (now i am questioning wtf was i thinking)
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/f647328a568d7f0d here is the team
pretend zekrom has ddance and protect
and not rock slide or dual wingbeat
molten oasis
Amoonguss can go for, hmm
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/048a36d18fa1dcd7 fixes done
foggy lodge
Amoonguss can go for, hmm
Ogerpon?
molten oasis
You could do that
foggy lodge
Wish me luck guys i'm in ultra ball in ladder
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/5f4f5a33afddd321 this could be fine
foggy lodge
Yeah dragon dance
You don't get that much out of the clear amulet without dragon dance
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/5f4f5a33afddd321 this could be fine
No
chrome knot
https://pokepast.es/5f4f5a33afddd321 this could be fine
youll want spinner
autumn vault
it synergizes less with ddance zekrom without redirection
And ddance can be lethal in the right circumstances
chrome knot
you dont need redirection for setup moves btw
foggy lodge
Or even you know
foggy lodge
Fuck it, Clefairy
chrome knot
spinner is gonna be the norm for pao next reg bc of all the terrain
atomic mural
true, but it would remove your terrain
autumn vault
Maybe clefairy
chrome knot
where on earth is pao playing next to miraidon and why lmao
i be lowering my defence for fun
autumn vault
you dont need redirection for setup moves btw
But it helps setting up way easier, look at belly drum users they almost always have redirection
Or a ton of fake out users
chrome knot
But it helps setting up way easier, look at belly drum users they almost always ...
ddance does NOT half your hp
autumn vault
ddance does NOT half your hp
that is true
chrome knot
there is a substantial difference between that and ddance😭
autumn vault
but it helps to set up easier, that is what i am trying to say
atomic mural
where on earth is pao playing next to miraidon and why lmao
i meant more like if you have rilla and chien on the same team
atomic mural
if you dont have a terrain setter, then yeah, use ice spinner
chien pao groudon teams 🔥
autumn vault
chien pao groudon teams 🔥
Chien Pao Rayquaza teams are even more threatening
solid frigate
tested,I love Terapagos even more
autumn vault
150 attack + SoR is busted af
atomic mural
Chien Pao Rayquaza teams are even more threatening
dragonite would still be better due to inner focus
foggy lodge
Chien Pao Rayquaza teams are even more threatening
Nah i testes
solid frigate
Chien Pao Rayquaza teams are even more threatening
i think Rayquaza compare to dragonite,Dragonite feels more viable
foggy lodge
Dragonite has inner focus
autumn vault
I get it: Inner focus is good but without intimidate, then what? 150 is bigger than 130
Only thing dragonite brings is inner focus (which is big)
foggy lodge
Intimidate lowers way more
solid frigate
I get it: Inner focus is good but without intimidate, then what? 150 is bigger t...
i mean Incineroar is gonna be EVERYWHERE
foggy lodge
And fake out
atomic mural
most dragon legends suck except like latias and latios and if rayquaza megas
but thats it
solid frigate
most dragon legends suck except like latias and latios and if rayquaza megas
Miraidon:
atomic mural
true
foggy lodge
Latias and Latios are still kinda mid
solid frigate
Koraidon,Kyurem
foggy lodge
Bring back soul des from gen 3 🔥🔥
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/169f256148a479f4
What i could come up with
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/fc47c8600c0878ba
I made this team for my friend,is it ok
atomic mural
protect assault vest dialga 🔥
autumn vault
protect assault vest dialga 🔥
Can we get this to the starboard?
solid frigate
lol
autumn vault
Anyways back to pink ball game
atomic mural
🔥🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
solid frigate
atomic mural
solid frigate
autumn vault
we spamming dog glares today 🔥
atomic mural
we dropping terapagos out of ubers with this one 🗣️
solid frigate
we dropping terapagos out of ubers with this one 🗣️
i hate you. (Jk)
autumn vault
We banning miraidon out of ubers with this one 🗣️
atomic mural
making a whole new tier: HITTG (How is it THAT good)
solid frigate
making a whole new tier: HITTG (How is it THAT good)
thats just Anything Goes.
autumn vault
making a whole new tier: HITTG (How is it THAT good)
AG exists
solid frigate
well technically Mega Ray Ray has counter plays so idk why they banned it to AG
autumn vault
making a whole new tier: HITTG (How is it THAT good)
autumn vault
well technically Mega Ray Ray has counter plays so idk why they banned it to AG
do you know what you are talking about?
MF had 0 weaknesses from flying
solid frigate
do you know what you are talking about?
idk cuz i am stupid after i used brain on the competitve match
autumn vault
only 3 from dragon
craggy dagger
solid frigate
look i am ADHD i don't have good focus
autumn vault
look i am ADHD i don't have good focus
oh apologies
atomic mural
paralaysis dosent effect me (My ability is purifying salt)
I eat a lot of pretzels with salt
autumn vault
paralaysis dosent effect me (My ability is purifying salt)
I am so weak and my speed is halfed (Slow Start) in the bed
solid frigate
I'm just Air Lock (Cloud Nine)
craggy dagger
i-
https://pokepast.es/4c1eac71b28c674a
here’s a thought-
solid frigate
i-
https://pokepast.es/4c1eac71b28c674a
here’s a thought-
WHIMSICOTT YEAAAAAAAAA
timber falcon
i-
https://pokepast.es/4c1eac71b28c674a
here’s a thought-
thank god normal looking team
gentle cragBOT
thank god normal looking team
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to stargazer_nova
timber falcon
really?
craggy dagger
i wouldn’t say normal…
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/guzma-stupid-sunandmoon-pokemon-skull-gif-9028458
Me when society does something bad:
craggy dagger
but def more on the tamer side of my chaos
solid frigate
i wouldn’t say normal…
if Whimsicott is here i love it but interestinf Bolt Beam Ragin Bolt
crude fern
What do you think about a Rain team based on Archaludon and Basculegion? Should I focus on 1 only?
solid frigate
What do you think about a Rain team based on Archaludon and Basculegion? Should ...
Archaludon,No question
solid frigate
swift swim band
sorry i just love to use Archaludon
i am obsessed using it since Indigo DIsk Debut
craggy dagger
no no i understand and archa is good
timber falcon
What do you think about a Rain team based on Archaludon and Basculegion? Should ...
i mean why not both
crude fern
Yeah, I was asking that haha
craggy dagger
yeah you can use both since they synergize really well
solid frigate
crude fern
I'll try to cook something tomorrow, thanks!!
Any tips before doing anything? I was thinking Assault Vest Archaludon and Life Orb Basculegion, but 0 clue for the rest of them
crude fern
i am obsessed using it since Indigo DIsk Debut
This is totally fair, I also love our big building boy, specially the shiny form
craggy dagger
i would run choice band basc
but you can also run scarf adaptability
crude fern
Thanks! Any idea for the rest of the team? I'd love to use something like the "classic" Archaludon teams but Idk if people already is very used to play against it
craggy dagger
the rain setter might be a bit of a problem…
i’m thinking maybe corviknight for rain and tailwind setter?
i don’t really like how you’d be weak to raging bolt with trying to set the rain but
timber falcon
the rain setter might be a bit of a problem…
i’m thinking maybe corviknight for ...
or just classic peli/ torn .......
craggy dagger
WHIMSICOTT YEAAAAAAAAA
also whimsy yeah cause faster sun setter :>
she’s also cuter than torn 
foggy lodge
i-
https://pokepast.es/4c1eac71b28c674a
here’s a thought-
Don't take this in a bad way, but it's a serious team?
foggy lodge
Ok so
Raging never uses booster energy, tera ice is bad, and it also has to run two electric moves, depending completely on tclap for your electric stab is bad
craggy dagger
foggy lodge
Tornadus is better than Whimsicott because in a two prankster set weather against Whimsicott, Tornadus wins because his weather is the one that goes after Whimsicott's weather
And the Chi-Yu is fine but i think is better choice specs on it
craggy dagger
- wym never uses booster-
- boltbeam coverage
- experimental
- whimsy is better with encore and taunt etc, faster prankser
- chi yu is running scarf to outspeed things
foggy lodge
In that team Raging doesn't need a booster because you have prankster sun setter, and Tornadus is still better, better flying type move to beat Ogerpon, Amoonguss or Rillaboom
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/42a050dfc007f8fe thoughts on this y’all?
bold geode
Raging never uses booster energy, tera ice is bad, and it also has to run two el...
It has used booster, iirc Aurelien who was a finalist in Utrecht used Booster
foggy lodge
Yeah bad choice of words, i meant that in that team Raging never should run booster, sorry
bold geode
Nvm it was AV
But Bolt runs Booster
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/42a050dfc007f8fe thoughts on this y’all?
I run a similar team but instead of Landorus, i use Amoonguss, but pretty good
foggy lodge
i was planning to run lefties on bolt
Raging Bolt @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
IVs: 20 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Thunderclap
- Draco Meteor
- Protect
craggy dagger
im not planning on changing the moveset
foggy lodge
This is the most popular Raging calm mind set
craggy dagger
and i know what im doing don’t worry-
foggy lodge
I personally don't like it because the only electric move it has is tclap but that's just personal opinion
craggy dagger
bolt beam coverage :3
next stump
what do you not hit for neutral between dragon/electric? Pretty much everything in the meta will take neutral from one of those
timber falcon
just lost like 10 consecutive games with palafin 
foggy lodge
and i know what im doing don’t worry-
Whatever ever makes you happy my friend
craggy dagger
what do you not hit for neutral between dragon/electric? Pretty much everything ...
that’s fair
but i don’t like the idea of bolt having to kinda just sit there while a lando I is on the field
stray pawn
A Farigiraf with 188 in HP, 156 in Sp. Att, 196 in Sp. def, and 44 in def isn't possible right?