competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

Zac is frail so yeah incin can beat it

[molten oasis]

Excuse me

Zacian isn’t frail

Not even in restricted terms

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-shook-shocked-gif-13010143

[solid frigate]

you almost can make Eiscue Joke but eh

True-

[molten oasis]

92/115/115 is very good bulk

It’s not like

[atomic mural]

Hold on what’s your bulk evs for zacian?

[autumn vault]

it doesn't even learn high horsepower

[molten oasis]

Terapagos bulk

[atomic mural]

Sorry stomping tantrum

[molten oasis]

156/60/4

[atomic mural]

It still dosent kill

[molten oasis]

I think now that incin exists lando should get high horsepower

[atomic mural]

+1 124 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 144-169 (87.8 - 103%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

[autumn vault]

atleast ddance zekrom with rage powder amoonguss can wipe miraidon (if played right)

[atomic mural]

252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 213-252 (113.9 - 134.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[molten oasis]

I’m Tera steel

And I have pao

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/235d8251d9d4aca9 this team with zekrom can deal with miraidon well (i think)

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/4a85ac182acbf8cc

[solid frigate]

or if you use Lando I just use Earth Power=

[molten oasis]

Lemme like lando t

Lando I is so ugly I hate it

[autumn vault]

Let me too

[solid frigate]

Of Course Zekrom

But still i think its interesting

[autumn vault]

I agree so much

[atomic mural]

Yeah I think I’m just gonna run Tera steel for swords dance sets

+1 124 Atk Tera Steel Sword of Ruin Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Steel Landorus: 128-151 (78 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[autumn vault]

fairy lures in draco meteor to get up a ddance consistently

[molten oasis]

Why are you deliberately trying to counter my zacian

[autumn vault]

and then wipe it with d claw

[atomic mural]

Not just your zacian

[molten oasis]

So

[atomic mural]

It would help in that matchup against zacian though

[molten oasis]

I stated Tera steel swords dance with pao

Then right after you change a Tera to counter it

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

fire walls both and isn't weak to any of it's stabs (For zacian)

[molten oasis]

Sure

[craggy dagger]

HUH

[molten oasis]

Yea

[solid frigate]

wait which mon was used for testing if Lando Survives Freeze Dry

[atomic mural]

Lmao +1 124 Atk Tera Steel Sword of Ruin Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. +1 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 148-176 (79.1 - 94.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

252 SpA Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 108 SpD Assault Vest Landorus-Therian: 168-196 (85.7 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[solid frigate]

Heathflame Ogerpon pls

heh

[molten oasis]

Oh yea Hearthflame counter zacian

[solid frigate]

What.

the
Fuck

[molten oasis]

Hehe

[autumn vault]

Not much really

[craggy dagger]

damn

[molten oasis]

I’ll need to find my answers to things

[solid frigate]

holy shit- but its not Booster Right?

[molten oasis]

Why would bundle be booster spA?

You booster speed

[solid frigate]

idk for good measure cuz why not

buts it would be gurateed KO

[autumn vault]

otherwise it's useless without booster speed

[molten oasis]

If it’s not boosting item lando lives

[craggy dagger]

you’d want quark speed on bundle…
quark speed specs bundle

[molten oasis]

yea. Or you just do sash

[solid frigate]

i forgot about Specs-

[molten oasis]

Since it’s gonna be stupid frail

[craggy dagger]

bundle about to be the new flutter

[molten oasis]

No

[atomic mural]

Yeah no buddy

[craggy dagger]

wym no

[atomic mural]

Embedded fail

[molten oasis]

Unlike flutter bundle will likely only see play on miraidon teams and as some kind of counter pick

[craggy dagger]

oh that’s fair

[molten oasis]

And Yk what that team doesn’t want to see

[solid frigate]

And Flutter is good on most teams even without Sun

[molten oasis]

fluttermane

[autumn vault]

Fucker Mane (the alternative i use to call it)

[craggy dagger]

Hey don’t diss my girl like that

[solid frigate]

i need to name it but fuck you Gamefreak

[autumn vault]

nah, it is the demon of reg B and C and nearly made me quit so no, i will keep bashing it

[solid frigate]

Synthsis Speed+ Specs-

[molten oasis]

With restricted

I think flutter probably remains as strong as it has since it’ll be checking the dragons and caly

Koraidon does not ever want to see fluttermane

[autumn vault]

with chi-yu, a max hp max special defense flutter cant wall calyrex shadow with max sp. attack modest without tera

[solid frigate]

unless they paired Up?

[molten oasis]

Counterpoint, flutter rapid strike lead

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

I never said it needed to wall it

Also guess what Mon literally laughs at that lead

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Flutter Mane: 170-204 (104.9 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

use scarf and murder it or bait the tera, either way you have to do a sacrifice

[solid frigate]

yep i hate Calyrex Confirmed-

i despise this MF in a Passion more than Incineroar

[molten oasis]

Incin literally says fuck off to caly and chi yu leads

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-sneaky-key-lock-door-tom-cat-gif-27616110

[molten oasis]

And if you have indeedee rillaboom is gonna be everywhere

[autumn vault]

true

[molten oasis]

And like, on most teams

Rilla shifu incin ain’t going anywhere as the main balance core

You just drop flutter for zacian

[solid frigate]

i am still thinking on which team should i bring

I have 3 Teams
https://pokepast.es/9b5f5616de347aa0
https://pokepast.es/bb79ebd5a66f8c54
https://pokepast.es/49b3b4110c924448

[atomic mural]

Restricted format is just gonna be indeedee, rillaboom, and miraidon arguing about who’s weather should be up and then terapagos just says to remove them all and then they all tell terapagos to shut up

[molten oasis]

Hate to tell ya

[autumn vault]

Giratina is awful sadly

[molten oasis]

Giratina is a garbage restricted

[autumn vault]

and gira has my favourite shiny of all time

[molten oasis]

Why do we have bolt and miraidon?

[autumn vault]

Atleast zekrom has ddance and bolt strike hits like a truck, giratina only has hp and maybe offenses going for it

[molten oasis]

Zacian looks so much better as a second restricted there lmao

[solid frigate]

blame thatTapu Koko does not exists

[molten oasis]

Ok no tapus in this gen was an absolute crime

[autumn vault]

your team outside of miraidon and maybe bolt dont benefit from e-terrain

[molten oasis]

Tapu fini would have been awesome

[solid frigate]

yeah EXACTLY

[solid frigate]

thats why that my LEAST priority to use

[autumn vault]

or UBs (gen 6 legends would rip the meta apart, screw them)

[molten oasis]

I like Primarina

But if I had tapu fini that team gets so much better

[solid frigate]

i am so limited in SV cuz i don't have that much stuff to use

[molten oasis]

See we trade and evil for a sacrifice

[bold geode]

Bruh

Drago

[molten oasis]

No xerneas is such a dub and I will fight on a hill for that

[solid frigate]

i rather use Xerneas and Zygarde-

Cuz i genuinely love them

[molten oasis]

Yes monke

[craggy dagger]

shadowdee says hello

[autumn vault]

it and flutter would rip everything, glad that didn't happen

But what about their legends ZA forms?

[molten oasis]

Xern chi yu

[bold geode]

Even with Black Glasses Kingambit, the Kowtow Flare Blitz double up into Articuno can still be a fuckin dice roll with A Veil

[autumn vault]

Lively Xerneas, Deadly Yveltal and 101% Zygarde

[molten oasis]

You wanna use dengo now lmao

[solid frigate]

i do NOT WANT TO SEE MEGA INCINEROAR.

[craggy dagger]

101% zygarde XD

[autumn vault]

I don't want to see flutter ever again, Mismagius doesn't deserve a mega

[bold geode]

My face when Articuno sucks at gambling and doesn't catch the coins

[molten oasis]

I’m guessing zygarde is 1, the final boss

[craggy dagger]

xern and yveltal have cool names and then-
101% zygarde

[solid frigate]

also the reason why i want them in SV cuz Gen 6 COmpetitve still in my blood-

[molten oasis]

Or 2, zygarde has a similar role to arceus

[autumn vault]

What else could i come up with? Overcomplete Zygarde?

that is actually a better name for it

[molten oasis]

I don’t count arceus as the final boss in legends a cuz like, it’s volo. Arceus is secret

[solid frigate]

Limit Break Zygarde?

[bold geode]

But you actually need like the Flare Blitz to hit the max roll to guarantee Kowtow finishes the job

[autumn vault]

Lively Xerneas, Deadly Yveltal and Overcomplete Zygarde

actually really good names

[solid frigate]

i feel Like Limit Break Zygarde kinda good as well

but Overcomplete feels more fitting

[molten oasis]

If xern gets a new form I’m quitting

[autumn vault]

i don't think so

[molten oasis]

Xern needs literally nothing

[solid frigate]

most likely would.

[autumn vault]

I am quitting if a min maxed evolution line gets a paradox form like flutter

[molten oasis]

Except ti be nerfed to hell

[autumn vault]

Make power Herb only affect damaging moves and not charging moves, that should do the trick

[molten oasis]

That would be perfect

[solid frigate]

i feel like Xerneas would get a Mega that feels worse unless that Ability just OP af

[molten oasis]

Fsiry aura is now 50%

Also get prankster for all moves

[craggy dagger]

a zygarde yveltal xerneas fusion?
something about the norse mythology?
idk
like xerneas is the tree, yveltal is the bird that guards the tree, and zygarde is the snake that is eating its own tail around the tree

[solid frigate]

ok we are getting into Pokemon Infinte FUsion BS

[craggy dagger]

i guess xD

[molten oasis]

Yea, fusion based plots go to gen 5 legends game

[autumn vault]

Deadly Yveltal would get Darkest aura which buffs dark moves by 50% and buffs draining moves by 50% bp, and give it giga drain

[molten oasis]

The original dragon is interesting

[molten oasis]

It only needs oblivion wing tho

[autumn vault]

nah make it broken

screw that hell no

[dapper crag]

Move: Oblivion Wing

The user recovers 3/4 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

3/4 recovery

That’s insane

[craggy dagger]

huh?

[autumn vault]

i said screw it hell no for a reason

but it makes sense, buff draining moves since it is the god of death Yveltal

[molten oasis]

Ok very off topic

Kahuna battle theme fucking slaps

[craggy dagger]

true

[autumn vault]

And more than half of the legendary themes

[craggy dagger]

also true

[molten oasis]

There’s lore in gen 5 (I believe) that resh zek and kyurem used to be one

[autumn vault]

and also Battle Frontier brain theme

[autumn vault]

I am very well informed of this and its true

[molten oasis]

Id like to see that, it be cool

[autumn vault]

i suspect Kyurem didn't come from a meteor, the meteor only landed during the separation containing the husk incomplete kyurem

[molten oasis]

Galar birds are top tier

[autumn vault]

Necrozma DM/DW theme just makes it 100x more scarier

Kyurem theme (base form) is the best in the franchise

[molten oasis]

That theme goes hard yea

[craggy dagger]

yeah
they're one being that split into 3

yin, yang, the circle which yin and yang are cased in

[solid frigate]

anyways i might use Terapagos Team then

[molten oasis]

Yea, i think a plot around them breaking apart would be really cool

We got to see how sky pillar broke

[craggy dagger]

yeah that would be cool

[molten oasis]

That was awesome

[molten oasis]

Terapagos is really good

Some tournament happened in japan and terapagos was everywhere

Also, incin rilla shifu bolt is still really solid

[bold geode]

Once again
The vision

[molten oasis]

Even with miraidon

[molten oasis]

It’s so good

[autumn vault]

Slap a Fucker Mane and its very solid

[molten oasis]

If I go to NAIC I’m taking that

[bold geode]

Fuck new toys
The old trio + dino is amazing

[molten oasis]

Just slap zacian on

As your restricted spot

And then lando or pao

[solid frigate]

even tho it means i have to shut down Kyogre

[molten oasis]

Zacian is a balance Mon

[craggy dagger]

also the galar birds are supposedly not connected the kanto trio at all...
So then their shinies are a coincidence-

[molten oasis]

Oh yea

And they’re named because they look so similar to them, but everyone calls them regional forms

[autumn vault]

Teraform Zero eliminates the worry of it due to wiping it's weather (rain)

[bold geode]

Time to update the team yet again on cart

[molten oasis]

What team?

[bold geode]

Palafin

[molten oasis]

Ah

[bold geode]

Putting Black Glasses on Gambit

[molten oasis]

You’re still doing double dark?

[bold geode]

Cuz at least with Black Glasses, you're rolling for it

Safety Goggles is an even worse roll as you're then rolling on both

[molten oasis]

That’s fair

[bold geode]

Nah
Going how Ugartes did
Black Glasses two dark and Iron Head

[molten oasis]

Oh cool

[craggy dagger]

yep

[molten oasis]

At least that lore was better than the entirely of swsh’s plot

[solid frigate]

welp the only mon i miss is Raging Bolt

[molten oasis]

Brother

Raging bolt remains very strong

[bold geode]

Raging Bolt gonna stick around

[molten oasis]

I’m assuming sorry, but yea bolt doesn’t go anywhere

[bold geode]

It's getting even more valid brother

[solid frigate]

I mean i don't have it

[molten oasis]

You gotta get one then

[solid frigate]

Remember i told you i got 2 offers but both declined

[molten oasis]

Bolt has so many things going for it

[molten oasis]

Right yea

[craggy dagger]

bolt mirai paired next to each other...
rising voltage bolt?

[molten oasis]

Mm yes my favorite pairing

That gets literally demolished by the presence of a ground type

[bold geode]

Also Groudon Bolt

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[dapper crag]

Move: Rising Voltage

If the current terrain is Electric Terrain and the target is grounded, this move's power is doubled.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

70

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

Does groudon get dance

[craggy dagger]

sd yeah

[dapper crag]

Groudon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Crunch, Cut, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Fissure, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metal Claw, Natural Gift, Power-Up Punch, Precipice Blades, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Eruption, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Lava Plume, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar

Status Moves

Block, Bulk Up, Confide, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Roar, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Groudon.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[bold geode]

It gets SD

[molten oasis]

Ooo

Could replace Zac for the Don if I wanted weather control

[solid frigate]

yeah i am in a rush on need one

[molten oasis]

Who said in gf that groudon should get twave

[craggy dagger]

lmao

[molten oasis]

How tf does that work

It gets shock wave too

[solid frigate]

Ah yes Ground Mon can learn this

[molten oasis]

And THUNDER

[bold geode]

Well I mean
Look at fucking Snorlax's moveset

[craggy dagger]

lmap

[solid frigate]

Garchomp Learns Thunder fang-

[molten oasis]

Ok but like

[dapper crag]

Snorlax's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bide, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Chip Away, Counter, Covet, Crunch, Darkest Lariat, Dig, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fissure, Flail, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Hold Back, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Last Resort, Lick, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Outrage, Pay Day, Power-Up Punch, Pursuit, Rage, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Smack Down, Steel Roller, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Submission, Supercell Slam, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Belch, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Tera Blast, Terrain Pulse, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

After You, Amnesia, Attract, Belly Drum, Block, Captivate, Celebrate, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Gastro Acid, Happy Hour, Harden, Helping Hand, Metronome, Mimic, Odor Sleuth, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Sandstorm, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Stockpile, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swallow, Toxic, Whirlwind, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Snorlax.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

Groudon is a ground type legend

How does it summon electricity

[bold geode]

Why does Snorlax learn Ice Beam

[molten oasis]

It had too many popsicles

[craggy dagger]

i guess after storing electricity for so long in the ground-
it can fire it back out?

[solid frigate]

even worse,HOW DOES TERAPAGOS DOES NOT LEARN SLUDGE BOMB

[foggy lodge]

Or Gyarados with t wave

Like why????

[molten oasis]

Groudon got tired of switching into kyogre clicking thunder

[bold geode]

It knows Hydro Pump cuz it's like when Naruto does the Synchronize justu with that one frog

[molten oasis]

He wants ti fire it back

[craggy dagger]

why would it learn slludge bomb

[molten oasis]

Why would it want sludge bomb

[bold geode]

What am I missing yeah

[solid frigate]

no like,it can learn most TMs and suppose to be all 18 Tera Types

[molten oasis]

I think you do starstorm a coverage move calm mind and protect

[solid frigate]

how does the only move it learn is TOXIC

[molten oasis]

Oh it just doesn’t get a poison move

[solid frigate]

for Poison type

[molten oasis]

That’s kinda weird yea

[foggy lodge]

Imagíne if Terapagos had a coverage move for every single type💀💀

[dapper crag]

Terapagos's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Crunch, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Flare Blitz, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, Ice Spinner, Iron Head, Rapid Spin, Rock Slide, Stone Edge, Supercell Slam, Take Down, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Bug Buzz, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Energy Ball, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Meteor Beam, Power Gem, Scorching Sands, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Surf, Tera Starstorm, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Water Pulse, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Endure, Gravity, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Rock Polish, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Toxic, Withdraw

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Terapagos.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[molten oasis]

Guessing game tuned up to 100

[solid frigate]

technically Tera'd Tera Starstorm

[molten oasis]

Can we talk about how calm mind just happens to be everywhere rn

And will stay that way

[solid frigate]

GF just being weird

[molten oasis]

Calm mind bolt

[bold geode]

Imagine Meteor Beam Terapagos

[solid frigate]

i used once

[molten oasis]

Flutter, soon enough terapagos and maybe miraidon

[bold geode]

Meteor Beam Terapagos is definitely gonna happen

[molten oasis]

Meteor beam sounds neat

Although I still think glimmora is better for that

[solid frigate]

Pneuma (Terapagos-Terastal) @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Tera Shift
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 156 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Calm Mind
• Rock Polish
• Rest

Idk if i should run this set

Also yes Nickname don't question it

[bold geode]

Meteor Beam/Star Storm/Gleam/Protect

[molten oasis]

brother

[solid frigate]

remember Lunala exist

[molten oasis]

Rock polish?

[foggy lodge]

Singles?

[solid frigate]

idk if i should ran this

I kinda stuck on it

[molten oasis]

Is this for vgc?

[bold geode]

Lunala running Meteor Beam like hardly any question

[dapper crag]

Lunala's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Phantom Force, Poltergeist, Psycho Cut, Return, Shadow Claw, Sky Attack, Sky Drop

Special Moves

Air Slash, Blizzard, Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Meteor Beam, Moonblast, Moongeist Beam, Night Daze, Night Shade, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Cosmic Power, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Hypnosis, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Moonlight, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spite, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lunala.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[foggy lodge]

If it's for vgc, it's horrible, sorry

[solid frigate]

was gonna do VGC on it but idk the moves

[molten oasis]

Consider the following

Glimmora gets STAB

[solid frigate]

yeah ik,cuz i don't know shit on it

[molten oasis]

Lunala doesn’t

[bold geode]

Unless you're considering like E Force

[bold geode]

Wolfe ran it all the fucking time in SwSh videos with Lunala

[molten oasis]

I also do not see a niche case in which you don’t just use caly

[molten oasis]

Swsh

Not sv

[bold geode]

Eh fuck it, it could probably see some work

[solid frigate]

yep

[foggy lodge]

I think Terapagos would run just tera starstorm, maybe calm mind and 2 coverage move or protect

[molten oasis]

You want protect

And lefties probably

[craggy dagger]

what meteor beam?

[molten oasis]

Calm mind power herb meteor beam is evil lol

No it’s probably one or the other

[solid frigate]

wait if its a weak move then Terapagos can reactivate tera shell-

[molten oasis]

Oh this thing would be a disgusting nasty plot user if it got it

[molten oasis]

Yea, and you dodge FO

which odds are will be a way to break the “shield”

[solid frigate]

sadly it does not learn Psychic for Fighting Type coverage-

Dazzling Gleam Maybe?

[molten oasis]

It gets gleam

Rapid strike is shaking in anticipation of what’s to come

[solid frigate]

wait thats build is so similar to what i build for Pagos right after i catch it

[molten oasis]

It won’t be dominant anymore

[foggy lodge]

Does it have energy ball or something like that?

[solid frigate]

yea but Dazzling Gleam beats BOTH Urshifu

[molten oasis]

Cuz now we have Zac Caly Miraidon and kyogre to worry about

(I think kyogre runs Thunder sometimes)

[solid frigate]

it has Thunder on most sets

[molten oasis]

Yea

[foggy lodge]

Protect tera startstorm dazzling and a single target move cuz if not you just get destroyed by wide guard

[molten oasis]

Who’s running wide guard

BESIDES LUNALA

[solid frigate]

i have calm mind but idk maybe

[molten oasis]

That’s what I thought

Ig pelipper but idk why you’d run that over kyogre

oh, kyogre Archaludon

Kyogre Archa torn

[solid frigate]

Pneuma (Terapagos-Terastal) @ Leftovers
Ability: Tera Shift
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 156 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Calm Mind
• Dazzling Gleam
• Protect

Pneuma (Terapagos-Terastal) @ Leftovers
Ability: Tera Shift
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 156 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Protect
• Dazzling Gleam
• Energy Ball

[solid frigate]

i want to run that lol

[molten oasis]

Why not ice beam or tbolt

[solid frigate]

wait T Bolt makes more sense

[molten oasis]

I don’t see a reason to be walled by steel pre Tera

[solid frigate]

Pneuma (Terapagos-Terastal) @ Leftovers
Ability: Tera Shift
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 156 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Thunderbolt
• Dazzling Gleam
• Energy Ball

also i feel like People would know i am a Xenoblade fan with this Nickname

[foggy lodge]

Pelipper

[solid frigate]

i might change it later to Stellar Turt

[solid frigate]

Kyogre exists so its USELESS

wait Zamazenta also learn that

[foggy lodge]

Pelipper also has drizzle and doesn't take your restricted slot

[molten oasis]

Who’s running pelipper

[solid frigate]

also is Specs also fine with Terapagos? cuz don't have Calm Mind anymore

[willow vault]

Doesn’t have the same stats or access to water spout

[solid frigate]

imagine Pelipper With Water Spout

it just shoot a Water Geyser from his Mouth Above

[molten oasis]

the toilet got clogged

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

yall cant tell me that pelipper doesnt look like a toilet

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/pelipper.gif

[willow vault]

I reckon we need a region form of Pelipper with drought

[solid frigate]

i literally named it Toilet Birb

[molten oasis]

like, cough that is a toilet mon

[molten oasis]

give it eruption

[solid frigate]

yeah instead of Toilet,its a Volcano

[willow vault]

And make it a gold colour, it’s for the uber rich people to use

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

anyways is there anything i need to change on my team

https://pokepast.es/c5078528fafa638c

[solid frigate]

Gholdengo in Smogon OU and its still in OU

[willow vault]

Probably have a team with just 1 restricted

[solid frigate]

i have one with Ogerpon

[willow vault]

I meant uber as in a synonym for the word very

[molten oasis]

gholdengo never dies

hes just built different

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/93919934dec1c5f6

[molten oasis]

gholdengo walls zacian

which is hilarious

[willow vault]

Cool

[solid frigate]

the thing is Archaludon is banned and same as Kingambit-

[bold geode]

Time for more Palafin gaming

[molten oasis]

how did archaludon get banned

[bold geode]

Electro Shot

[solid frigate]

same as every rain team does

[molten oasis]

ik kimgambit is just a menace but idk about archaludon

ah

[bold geode]

Electro Shot is why lmao

[solid frigate]

yep idk what they are thinking,its not bannable by any means tho

[bold geode]

Electro Shot funny moments

[molten oasis]

heres what i like about vgc

were not babies and ban the things that are broken

[solid frigate]

yeah

[molten oasis]

we learn to play against it

[solid frigate]

we just accepted it and move on

[bold geode]

Yeah we just go ooga booga, and fuck around and find out

[molten oasis]

yea

[solid frigate]

[bold geode]

Wanna VC Drago? Me wanna talk to you

[molten oasis]

about what

[willow vault]

Like I have a well known dislike of Archaludon (it’s a skill issue) and I don’t want it banned

[bold geode]

Just general man

[molten oasis]

im blasting music in my ears and doing, stuff for the rental

[bold geode]

Can I not talk with the homies

[solid frigate]

i just obsessed with Archaludon after it got released

[molten oasis]

just talk here

[bold geode]

Damn

[solid frigate]

F

[molten oasis]

im just not in the mood rn

to vc

[willow vault]

I liked it originally then I played against it and now I don’t

[bold geode]

Bro just said fuck you me no talky with voice

[solid frigate]

its not very bad to deal with

[molten oasis]

yea lol

[bold geode]

Tbf I didn't gaslight him enough so

[molten oasis]

im working on stuff anyway

[willow vault]

Like I said it’s a skill issue

[molten oasis]

smogon players dont know what that is theyll just ban whatever is being a problem

[solid frigate]

yea,i used to play Smogon but i just kinda hate how they ban this and that

[bold geode]

I didn't gaslight and gatekeep Drago, and he didn't see my girlboss so he said you're not fanum tax and skibidi rizzlered right out the fuckin door

[solid frigate]

Loyal Three Moment

[bold geode]

Yes I hate myself

[molten oasis]

yea get fucked lol

[willow vault]

Like I’m getting better, but like I’m aware there are multiple levels above me that I’m working towards

[molten oasis]

see i understand the gen alpha language

[solid frigate]

also don't mention why i have 1200+ on Gen 7 OU when i don't know what the fuck am i playing and spamming Ash Greninja

[molten oasis]

i just refuse to speak it

[bold geode]

Do I completely understand it? No
Do I want to? No

[solid frigate]

same i hate those...

[molten oasis]

my friend's sibling roasted him in it it was kinda hilarious

[bold geode]

Tbh after 2003, things just went downhill

[solid frigate]

I'm 2006

[molten oasis]

tbf theres good memes that pop up

[willow vault]

I’m 2005, but your right

[bold geode]

How many issues you got?

[solid frigate]

lots.

[molten oasis]

currently theres just, not really good memes

[bold geode]

Exactly

[solid frigate]

i feel like Gen Alpha BS is literally just like how i Hate Incineroar

[willow vault]

Just pure hatred?

[solid frigate]

Pure Hatred,At least Casual Incineroar i like it

[molten oasis]

i honestly dont have anything against incin lol

[solid frigate]

Gen Alpha BS is just AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[molten oasis]

i like incin

[willow vault]

Neither

[molten oasis]

it keeps things from getting out of hand

[solid frigate]

Me who got PTSD from Pokemon Comp and Smash Bros:

[bold geode]

Actually I have issues too so I can't complain
But like look at wtf Gen Alpha is growing up with
Like Gen Z we had fuckin Epic Rap Battles of History and Markiplier and shit
Recently I saw this TikTok where they asked these younger kids to say a YouTuber and they all immediately said Mr Beast

[molten oasis]

incins a bottom tier in smash

[willow vault]

It’s terrible in smash what do you mean?

[solid frigate]

at least Gen Z is fine

[solid frigate]

Revenge Cheese.

[molten oasis]

gen z has problems

gen z kinda started gen alpha shit ngl

[solid frigate]

i agree as Gen Z Myself,but i feel like its more mellow than what Gen Alpha BS did

[bold geode]

No I do not take credit for skibidi toilet fuck no

[willow vault]

As a member of gen z I can confirm we have issues

[molten oasis]

at least some of gen z stuff was funny

[solid frigate]

I wanna NUKE THIS MEME OUTTA HERE WITH TERAPAGOS.

[willow vault]

We did not start that

[bold geode]

The furthest I'll go
We did make Chug Jug with you

[molten oasis]

true

[willow vault]

Don’t remind people of that

[bold geode]

Although Chug Jug with You
Unironically for a cringe song kinda slaps

[solid frigate]

Me being Gen Z and Loves Xenoblade despite Fan Service tarnish how people look at the game

[molten oasis]

"im not a big fan of the government" goes kinda hard for 0 reason

[solid frigate]

yeah thats how TorrentAegisVGC of Aegis Part Came from

[molten oasis]

really

[solid frigate]

PFFT

[bold geode]

Yes

[willow vault]

I mean for me I’ve always been a big fan of smash and Mario kart, they were my games

[solid frigate]

exactly

Pokemon,Xenoblade and Zelda are my top 3

[molten oasis]

smash died for me when aegis was released

[willow vault]

And obviously Pokémon

[solid frigate]

i feel offended-

[bold geode]

Yeah
Also mobile games have went downhill

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

thats just where i kinda figured out, this game is going downhill so fast

[willow vault]

For me, it was the fact that there hasn’t been any changes in like 2 years

[bold geode]

Also hot take
I like Clash of Clans better than Clash Royale

[solid frigate]

Kazuya. FLIPPING KAZUYA

[molten oasis]

dude i cut myself off completely when some, things, happend last year

[solid frigate]

also i main Aegis so yeah-

[molten oasis]

smash community is awful

[bold geode]

I don't like Clash Royale

[molten oasis]

if you know what im talking about, it was really messed up

[willow vault]

I actually quite like Kazuya, Steve makes me sad even as a minecraft fan

[solid frigate]

i can tell,cuz i am one of them and the tier list is mf Bullshit

[foggy lodge]

i just came back why are you talking about gen alpha what

[bold geode]

Why did they add Steve and Sans lmao

[molten oasis]

no-

[solid frigate]

normal convo

[willow vault]

Yep, the community is full of very weird people, some ok people though

[solid frigate]

Steve i was happy for it

[molten oasis]

the community harassed someone for winning with steve

[foggy lodge]

TRUE

[solid frigate]

Steve is literally based

[molten oasis]

like, really good player got told to khs

[bold geode]

Ngl if I played Smash, I'd probably just main Donkey Kong

[foggy lodge]

THE OFFICIAL TIER LIST IS TRASH

[molten oasis]

because he was playing steve

[solid frigate]

and also Xenoblade Community just tell you to Not spoil a game for 6 years

[willow vault]

So valid

[molten oasis]

it was super messed up

[solid frigate]

i was like bro why.

[bold geode]

Donkey Kong gaming

[willow vault]

It was, like he’s just a really skilled player, playing Steve optimally

[solid frigate]

can we just name all Stereotypes of Nintendo franchise Community

[molten oasis]

i mained sephiroth if anyone was interested

[solid frigate]

based

[bold geode]

Can we not lmao

[molten oasis]

its sad lol

i hate that community

[solid frigate]

I main Greninja,Aegis and Toon Link,and you guessed it,top 3 franchise i like

[bold geode]

I don't think we need to start listing stereotypes

[molten oasis]

lol alr lets not get into this

[willow vault]

For me, I mostly play dk, Luigi (better than Mario) and also toon link

[solid frigate]

Also Yes no shocker a Greninja fan mains Greninja and Pneuma fan mains Aegis

[molten oasis]

seph terry and greninja

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

terry was a secondary

he's fun

[willow vault]

I really like greninja, but I suck at his neutral

[solid frigate]

Terry is based

[molten oasis]

and least complex of the fighting charcters

[solid frigate]

I just do nair Down Tilt

[molten oasis]

i do not have any patiece to learn kazuya combos IN SMASH

[willow vault]

I always found that to be Ken

[solid frigate]

same

[foggy lodge]

In that moment it was probably like the first perdon to play Steve in tournament

[willow vault]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

tekken is, so much worse lol

[willow vault]

Not true

[solid frigate]

also People question on why i main Aegis and assume me because i simp for them

[molten oasis]

ok im gonna get back to writing

[solid frigate]

well its partially true but i just Love Xenoblade 2

[willow vault]

I just thought you like xenoblade

[molten oasis]

i need to post this rental within the next 30 minutes

[willow vault]

Oh, see you in a bit

[solid frigate]

Xenoblade 2 is my favourite Game,but might toppled by Pokemon Legends Z-A

[foggy lodge]

But it was the combination of the character finally getting optimized, the player and that people didn't know to play against steve

[solid frigate]

i just love play against Steve,like i just want to see what BS they will do

[willow vault]

My favourite game is probably either Pokemon black 2 (Pokemon game I have the strongest memory of) or Mario kart Wii

[solid frigate]

Like if they T-Bag i would be very happy cuz its what Minecrafters greet each other

[willow vault]

Same with sonic

[solid frigate]

also yes there is a reason why i name Terapagos as Pneuma.

[solid frigate]

Sonic slightly hate how it plays but i still like it

Speen moment

[willow vault]

I just respect people, I don’t care who they play in smash, unless you make me play against banjo, then I become sad

[solid frigate]

F

[willow vault]

Why you saying F?

[solid frigate]

i feel bad if you gonna face my friend who mains Banjo

anyways yes i am a Swordie main-

[willow vault]

I don’t think that will happen

[solid frigate]

oh

[willow vault]

I don’t play tournaments so I very rarely run into banjos

[solid frigate]

ah

[willow vault]

In all fairness that because we don’t have tournies in my area 😭

[solid frigate]

i missed one in my area

[willow vault]

Oh well, it happens

[solid frigate]

also can someone help me test my restricted teams

[willow vault]

If you give me like 10-15 minutes to eat dinner then sure

[solid frigate]

maybe

hmmmmmmmm

[solid frigate]

need to eat dinner so i will be back

[willow vault]

Bruh

I literally just finished eating

[autumn vault]

I haven't started dinner at all (yet)

[rustic mountain]

the LO set?

i feel like that can be really nice in bo1

[dapper crag]

Palafin's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Astonish, Body Slam, Bounce, Close Combat, Counter, Dive, Double Hit, Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Flip Turn, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Hard Press, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Jet Punch, Liquidation, Outrage, Reversal, Take Down, Throat Chop, Waterfall, Wave Crash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Boomburst, Chilling Water, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Charm, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Haze, Helping Hand, Mist, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Supersonic, Taunt, Tickle

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Palafin.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[solid frigate]

done now

[willow vault]

Alright, my username is cr3phace on showdown

[atomic mural]

Just thought of an idea

Weezing on a team with zacian

You start with the attack boost and not lead with weezing

You can also use the regi I can’t spell to have a Pokémon that’s immune to shadow rider calyrex without using Tera

[solid frigate]

damn Terapagos Come in clutchh

[willow vault]

gg

[solid frigate]

ggs man

[willow vault]

Want a rematch?

[solid frigate]

sure,but do you want me to ue 1 restricted mon

[willow vault]

Nah it’s fine

[solid frigate]

i need to test Ogerpon

[willow vault]

Oh

Let me switch to my solo restricted team

[solid frigate]

ok

damn ggs

[willow vault]

Sorry I played so bad that game, ggs anyway

[solid frigate]

its ok everyone slip up at sometimes

i literally encored your Incin in game 1

[willow vault]

Can we run it back, 1 restricted so I don’t feel so bad

[solid frigate]

ok

[willow vault]

I didn’t want to mention it

Those encores were so annoying, but really well used

[solid frigate]

i actully saw the play from that Encored Indeedee

[willow vault]

Fair play

[solid frigate]

ggs

[willow vault]

gg

[solid frigate]

i feel so bad rn

[willow vault]

Palkia sold so many time 😭

It’s my fault for relying on inaccurate moves

[solid frigate]

Hydro Pump and Rend missed so many times

thats why i kinda use Dragon Pulse sometimes

[willow vault]

There’s no way you live hydro with Ogerpon right?

[solid frigate]

only this time i use Draco Meteor on Bolt

[solid frigate]

lemme check

[willow vault]

I mean rend has 95% so it’s not as bad

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Palkia Hydro Pump vs. 64 HP / 40 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 219-258 (69 - 81.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[willow vault]

Oh damn

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Palkia Spacial Rend vs. 64 HP / 40 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 198-234 (62.4 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

i make Ogerpon i bit Bulky to at least survive

[willow vault]

Yeah

Wasn’t it in rain?

[solid frigate]

yeah

252+ SpA Palkia Hydro Pump vs. 64 HP / 40 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame in Rain: 328-387 (103.4 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Yeah if that Lands you win

[willow vault]

That feel worse now

[hazy terrace]

Any one got groudon

I been searching over 2 years.

[willow vault]

Having an amoongus left really sucked

[solid frigate]

i feel liike i might not use Swords Dance on Ogerpon

but i could keep it incase of Zacian

and Incin

[willow vault]

Do you like my team atleast, I felt creative making it

[solid frigate]

its actually nice

Palkia Trick Room is rare

[willow vault]

Thanks for making me feel better

The gimmick is that, I have way to many mons that can’t hit there teammates so I can benefit from discharge and earthquake

[solid frigate]

my intended strat for my team is Tailwind and Light screen and Let Kyogre Rain Down on teams

[willow vault]

I worked that out

[solid frigate]

but against Bolt....

[willow vault]

Your whimsicott was so difficult to deal with in solo restricted, my counterplay was the fact that my Lunala was dark Tera, but I didn’t have it for the solo restricted games

[willow vault]

Earthquake

[solid frigate]

Lando

[willow vault]

Welp, big sad time

[solid frigate]

i was scared of the Ting Lu actually

[molten oasis]

well, this is taking a while lol

[willow vault]

Honestly the first hydro miss, to save ting-lu hurts the most. It would have killed both the incin and whimsicott and put me in the driving seat

[solid frigate]

cuz 5 out of 6 are special

[molten oasis]

ill be done soon hopefully

[solid frigate]

i feel like my team is passed,sort of

[willow vault]

Mine would have passed if it could hit its moves, I don’t recommend for the sake of your sanity.

[solid frigate]

yeah

i'm washing dishes rn

[willow vault]

Ok

I love Palkia but like, pain, it’s all pain

[autumn vault]

I love zekrom but Miraidon is just built better sadly

F you miraidon 🥲

[molten oasis]

ill play some bo3's if i have time later

[solid frigate]

tbf i love Kyogre and Terapagos

heck Terapagos is my second favourite Legendary while Kyogre is my top 6

[willow vault]

I felt with the terapagos, really limited your Tera uses, obviously less of a problem in 4v4

[autumn vault]

Top 5 legends imo are:Zekrom
Ogerpon
Regigigas
Giratina
Koraidon

[willow vault]

For me it’s probably. Yveltal, Lunala, Palkia, Reshiram, Zekrom.

[solid frigate]

top 5 Legendaries for me

Giratina

Terapagos
Dialga
Lunala
Zygarde

yeah thats why i want to use Giratina

[solid frigate]

i don't think so... i usually won't use Terapagos until like very late of the battle cuz my point is i would beat the mons that checks it and that i won't be threaten on that

[willow vault]

I meant in a 6v6, terapagos become so much better tera, I feel it will be better in 4v4

[solid frigate]

yeah

my team's Main sweeper is Kyogre

[willow vault]

Was it scarfed?

As in kyogre

[solid frigate]

yes it was

the reason i don't want to use Groudon cuz i feel like Kyogre is way better in Restricted when Primal Groudon is not here

its good for sun yes,but Koraidon exists

[willow vault]

Personally I would still rather Groudon over koraidon strictly because flutter becomes better in sun and hard counters koraidon

[bold geode]

Also double Dragon ain't the best sometimes and Groudon Bolt is good pair in my eyes

[solid frigate]

sadly Tapu Koko is not here t help Bolt to be Busted

thats why i gone for Rain Teams

[bold geode]

Kyogre is gonna have fucking issues lmao

[solid frigate]

yeah agree,i just stacked Lando I into this when i make that Team in School

[bold geode]

It's not gonna be bad but like
Wellspring
Bolt
Miraidon

You got 3 right there it ain't gonna like to stare down

[solid frigate]

yeah

for Bolt and Miraidon i have Lando I and Fore Wellspring,idk

[bold geode]

I wouldn't be surprised if Hearthflame or Rilla or that combo doesn't give it issues

[solid frigate]

i was gonna say Incin but i forgot Ivy Cudgel

[bold geode]

It's gonna have to go Grass tera
If you are Water tera Kyogre, you just gonna get shit on

[solid frigate]

i have Hearthflame on my 1 restricted Team,but instead of Rillaboom i chose Incineroar-

[bold geode]

Me who wants to run both

[solid frigate]

yep i'm done-

that duo scar my whole competitive life in Gen 8-

[atomic mural]

36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 427-507 (242.6 - 288%) -- guaranteed OHKO

no one is gonna run max speed and special attack kyogre with this one 🗣️

[autumn vault]

we all know that Mirai can ohko kyogre

[atomic mural]

yeah but 200% kinda nutty

[autumn vault]

Not surprised by 200% ngl

[atomic mural]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 166-196 (80.1 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[autumn vault]

Ok miraidon is too broken

[atomic mural]

also timid max speed kyogre is still slower than 108 evs neutral nature speed on miraidon

[solid frigate]

thats why i have Lando i my team-

[atomic mural]

36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Grass Kyogre: 160-190 (90.9 - 107.9%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

[solid frigate]

its kinda a thing if there is miraidon everywhere you might wanna bring a Ground type

And i put Tera Steel on Landorus

[atomic mural]

whats your bulk on your lando I

[solid frigate]

Fallen King (Landorus) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 128 HP / 44 Def / 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 52 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Earth Power
• Sludge Bomb
• Sandsear Storm
• Protect

[atomic mural]

36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Overheat vs. 128 HP / 32 SpD Landorus: 165-195 (91.6 - 108.3%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

36+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Overheat vs. 128 HP / 32 SpD Tera-Steel Landorus: 248-294 (137.7 - 163.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

ok without electric terrain you live overheat without using tera

[autumn vault]

we get it, miraidon is too busted to exist

[atomic mural]

lmao

ok but 36+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 128 HP / 32 SpD Landorus: 186-220 (103.3 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[autumn vault]

No wonder they have a suspect test on miraidon in THE Uber tier (singles)

[solid frigate]

but we just ignore it cuz we ain't play Smogons honestly

[autumn vault]

I still do

I only play UU, OU is in a bad state and the rest i don't like

I get to play excadrill in UU and tyranitar and the almighty garchomp

[solid frigate]

UU is just more like Previous Gens OU

[autumn vault]

true

atleast Landorus therian is vibing in OU (10% usage)

[solid frigate]

Cuz Seeing Garchomp and Greninja in UU just make me sad

[autumn vault]

Tyranitar was RU, they were atleast fortunate unlike tyranitar

its UU because of excadrill

and gyarados is NU

Power creep really did smack singles harder than doubles

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz gen 9 mons just wtf

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/c002dcaef3f281db anyways here is the team i will use

[atomic mural]

hey can we battle?

I think that would be neaty

[autumn vault]

Its too late here

[atomic mural]

mannn

[autumn vault]

its literally 10:31 pm

or 22:31

We can battle tomorrow however

Also make it a Bo3, its for testing purpouses

[atomic mural]

36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Cresselia in Electric Terrain: 93-109 (40.9 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[atomic mural]

gotcha

[molten oasis]

teams done

wrote a blog on it, it felt better to go in depth with the team

[dapper crag]

Ability: Mycelium Might

This Pokemon's Status moves ignore certain Abilities of other Pokemon, and go last among Pokemon using the same or greater priority moves.

SableyeBot version 4.26.0

[mild wolf]

Please list items and abilities that react to intimidate from an enemy pokemon. For example, adrenaline orb gets activated. The rattled ability gets activated. Like those.

[atomic mural]

36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 156 HP / 32 SpD Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 193-228 (101.5 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

yeah you are like forced to tera or protect to not just get killed by fake out electro drift combo

@solid frigate

terapagos is gonna be mid in single restricted

if you have it as your only restricted legend, you are forced to bring it to every game. meaning you have to use tera for it every game

making it super predictable

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/1f188e5233c050ce

i finally changed to ogerpon wellspring for groudon

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/5e76c2964bfc5e36 changed to tera grass on iron hands for better match up against groudon rillaboom pairs

[mighty stump]

Whoa there

Predictable doesn’t mean bad

I know almost every Flutter is gonna Tera Fairy Moonblast but it’s not gonna stop melting my face off

[atomic mural]

Still think it’s not as good in 1 restricted as it is in 2 restricted

[mighty stump]

I mean you’re welcome to think that

I’m just going off Dragon King Cup evidence

Also Groudon carries Fire coverage

[atomic mural]

Where do you find that

The dragon king cup

[cyan smelt]

What are you supposed to do against vacuum wave side proccing wp explosion

[atomic mural]

where do you find that

[kindred cypress]

https://pokepast.es/45a61640e851f89d Any thoughts? Planning on running this on the challenge.

[atomic mural]

252+ Atk Groudon Heat Crash (60 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tera-Grass Iron Hands in Sun: 118-140 (48.7 - 57.8%) -- 95.7% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Tera-Fire Groudon Heat Crash (60 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tera-Grass Iron Hands in Sun: 176-210 (72.7 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 100 HP / 252+ SpD Iron Hands: 61-73 (25.2 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

252+ SpA Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 60-71 (28.9 - 34.2%) -- 2% chance to 3HKO

If they have a terapagos, I just dont tera and I take their restricteds stab moves pretty good without them getting a boost

And even without quark drive or a plus 2 from swords dance my 156 neutral nature attacking iron hands still kills in 4 turns even if its plus defense nature and max defense and hp evs, meaning it probably dies in 3 hits max

156 Atk Iron Hands Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar: 86-104 (32.2 - 38.9%) -- 9.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

and thats with leftovers

ik its faster

but like the partners better be pulling their weight

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 100 HP / 252+ SpD Iron Hands: 82-97 (33.8 - 40%) -- guaranteed 3HKO even with beads of ruin

it tanks 3

and if the terapagos uses tera, the chi yu has no way of escaping the inevitable drain punch ko

not saying terapagos is gonna suck

I said before Reg C ting lu would not be that good (stupid idea now ik)

terapagos is still gonna be a defensive wall and strong attacker

[molten oasis]

Hello

How are we doing

[atomic mural]

hello please read my wall of my ranting why terapagos is gonna be mid in single restricted

[molten oasis]

The Japanese would disagree

[atomic mural]

I cant find that tournament when i look online so im gonna be like how I felt when reg c came out and wonder why ting lu/terapagos is so stupid

I can only see what I think is a singles tournament with the same name

[atomic mural]

ok but I make a point

like if you dont tera, you cant not use protect other wise you just take too much damage from a fake out and insert damaging move here

[molten oasis]

What point?

Oh, yes the whole point of using terapagos is to Tera it

If you’re not gonna Tera it, don’t use it

[atomic mural]

wasnt planning on it

[molten oasis]

I think it’s mid if you’re not gonna utilize it’s Tera

That is how it’s mid

[atomic mural]

yes and with 2 legends you can make the other opponent have a guessing hame whether you bring terapagos or your other restricted

thats why terapagos is gonna be better on 2 restricted

[molten oasis]

We’ll see, I do think a lot of restricteds get better when there’s 2 to pick from

[atomic mural]

yeah..

but terapagos does it the best imo

[molten oasis]

Sure yea

[atomic mural]

just looking at what it does

and how good the weather/terrain legends we have are

not at the moment

[jagged matrix]

Anybody have a MALE charmander, squirtle, and bulbasaur? Trying a new run in scarlet

[molten oasis]

This is probably not the place, could ask trading or SV discussion

[jagged matrix]

Thanks, new to discord

[molten oasis]

Well

Honestly I think kyogre gets hindered by miraidon and wellspring

It’s still good but like, it can’t run rampant

[atomic mural]

yeah true

groudon does unlock raging bolt

[molten oasis]

Honestly

[atomic mural]

I think groudon and miradon will be the most common

and zacian in 3rd

[molten oasis]

Initially I was kinda dissing on groudon but like

Groudon is really good lol

I think it’s better than koraidon

[atomic mural]

with the threat of miraidon, kyogre will be less common im sure

[molten oasis]

Well you’re just kinda forced to run things to counter Mirai

So, lando I

[atomic mural]

yeah it also gives miraidon players a way of stopping the opponent from abusing the terrain you set up

[molten oasis]

Oh, yea I think honestly rilla is 100% top 5 mons in the format

[atomic mural]

yeah

[molten oasis]

Literally because it stops miraidon from Ohkoing me

can’t believe it ohkoed a zacian

[atomic mural]

yeah lmao

https://pokepast.es/6c878cf05ac80220 Iron Hands like my only counter to terapagos lmao

[molten oasis]

Tera fire on lando seems kinda awful

Like, ik you have answers to it but I’d hate to be stuck in a situation where shifu just always beats your lando

[atomic mural]

yeah but like with miraidon I can already see the urshifu rapid strike usage go down enough to where it wont matter as much

it will still be like 5% or 9% usage im sure

probabl higher lmao

but still

[molten oasis]

Idt rapid shifu dies

If I have terrain control bundle doesn’t want to see a shifu, cuz uh

Shifu can live freeze dry

(Crazy ik)

Also, generally I think the only Tera lando I should run is poison or steel if you’re sub

[atomic mural]

im not though

[molten oasis]

That’s not-

Ok what does fire do for you that steel doesn’t

[atomic mural]

zacian fighting coverage scares me

[molten oasis]

Oh no, yiu have incin

[atomic mural]

fine

[molten oasis]

You do not want to retain the shifu weakness

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/37196f699734efc4

there

[molten oasis]

Cool

[rustic mountain]

id imagine single strike and rapid remain consistent, have to see how the format actually develops tho, super early to speculate a format we dont know yet

[atomic mural]

trueee

but miraidon gonna be one top

[rustic mountain]

miraidon will be very strong yes

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-dance-toothless-gif-5811329944095029800

miraidon SWEEEEEPPPPP

gonna be honest when the legendaries were first shown i HATED miraidons design

[rustic mountain]

i mean if it comes out the gate dominant people are jus gna run checks whether naturally or thru tera

same thing w/ caly shadow

[atomic mural]

i hated that it looked cool but it also looked like male genitalia

[rustic mountain]

lets not be weird

[atomic mural]

yeah trueeee

[rustic mountain]

theyll still be strong

but against good players ur not gna sweep w/ just them

[atomic mural]

well thats true

[molten oasis]

Well

Miraidon went from being something I liked to dreading seeing it

[atomic mural]

lol

[bold geode]

Although it was 13 people

[molten oasis]

At least caly HAS known counters

[rustic mountain]

?

[bold geode]

5th

[molten oasis]

We don’t know miraidon counters yet

[rustic mountain]

what am i looking at

[atomic mural]

nice what tounament?

[molten oasis]

Hey

[bold geode]

I got 5th in a tour, making some fucking progress now

[molten oasis]

Who took the first part of my name

That’s not me mf

[rustic mountain]

oh nice

[bold geode]

Just a small Limitless tour

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

It's your alter ego
Don't worry, he's pretty shit though

[molten oasis]

Fr, I’m built different

(Not true)

[bold geode]

Yeah
Built stupid

[charred saddle]

oh tree is mod now?

[rustic mountain]

no

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[bold geode]

And with the wrong parts

[charred saddle]

[rustic mountain]

kit jus did it till i finish the epilogue

[atomic mural]

whenever someone says "alter ego" i keep thinking of that stupid drake meme

[molten oasis]

Oh btw, monke did you look at the rentals recently

[bold geode]

Yeah

You're copying me and Tofu huh bitch

[molten oasis]

Ok

[bold geode]

I'm joking lol

[molten oasis]

Yes and no

[rustic mountain]

posting rentals is copying?

[molten oasis]

I want to put myself out there

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Well yes, but actually no

[bold geode]

He got a blog now

[molten oasis]

I think starting a blog is a start

[rustic mountain]

oh

[molten oasis]

Along with streaming

Which I haven’t had time to do but I want to probably stream wide league since I’m doing that

[rustic mountain]

team league?

[bold geode]

Also Drago just to let you know, that server you joined recently has a self promo channel, I'd post only the link to the blogpost in there
And try to like
Get promo role here

[molten oasis]

Oh cool

[bold geode]

Another Limitless tour, Wide League

[rustic mountain]

ahh gotcha

i wanna find the time to compete more

[molten oasis]

I got lucky with not having to work

[rustic mountain]

rl been busier hav had way less time to play

[molten oasis]

Oh, did the blog look good monke?

If you read it

[bold geode]

I haven't seen it yet, wtf is that site?

[charred saddle]

lately all ive been playing is randbats

[rustic mountain]

nice

[charred saddle]

been quite fun

[rustic mountain]

randbats is fun

[molten oasis]

I’m not blowing money on one so it’s just a free site to use

[rustic mountain]

been a bit since ive done it

[molten oasis]

It literally did what I wanted it to

[charred saddle]

69 GXE save nice

[rustic mountain]

not bad

[bold geode]

Oh it's a free site as well
Does it have ads?

[molten oasis]

So, I think it also works fine when I click on it

[bold geode]

Like does it show ads anywhere

[molten oasis]

Unfortunately

But again I don’t have any money to spend rn

When I looked at it nothing popped up

[bold geode]

Eh mine does too since WordPress is free
Hatenablog doesn't at least I don't think so? That's free too iirc

[charred saddle]

randbats shenanigans is very fun haha. itll be like fucking conkeldurr carry

with like drain punch fighting tera

[rustic mountain]

yea its weird too w/ the varying levels

[molten oasis]

I mean

[charred saddle]

yeah yeah, shitty mons have like insanely high lvl

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

Boohoo ads aren’t like, terrible

[charred saddle]

basculin have lvl 92 or something

[rustic mountain]

legends are like 71

[charred saddle]

choice banded water twra aquajet

i think all basculin ive seen are that set

[rustic mountain]

doesnt seem very random then lol

[charred saddle]

only certain mons get different sets ye

[rustic mountain]

oh interesting

[charred saddle]

thats what i realized at least

like you can get specs kyogre i think, or like calm mind thunder tera electric kyogre for some fucking reason

but yeah its been very fun haha

[bold geode]

Color scheme on your blog looks better than mine Drago
I'm forced into all black

[atomic mural]

anyone wanna test reg G teams

[mighty stump]

Hatenablog needs a lot of inference snd common sense from the google translates though

[bold geode]

Yeah
I don't have that

[mighty stump]

Just cause there isnMt a true english version

[mighty stump]

Wtf you mean “me and Tofu” bitch copied me

We ain’t the same go away

[bold geode]

It was a joke fuck you

[mighty stump]

Eat sand

[bold geode]

[foggy lodge]

Are you available tomorrow?

[atomic mural]

I believe so, i have a high chance of no school

[foggy lodge]

Let's goo

What time is there now?

[atomic mural]

9:57 pm right now where I live

[foggy lodge]

Here is 11:57 pm

[bold geode]

As someone who used it, Whimsicott Ape is a horrible duo

[old tulip]

@bold geode Who would be a better partner for rage fist annihilape?

[bold geode]

Tbh you just wanna stick around
So Comfey is a crazy partner

Comfey Ape Archaludon

[old tulip]

Might i ask the reasoning? (Not opposed to the team! Just wondering the synergies and such!)

[bold geode]

Just play a sorta raid boss mode
With mitigations from Snarl and other factors like possibly Incineroar for Intimidate, you can make 1-2 mons that are just HARD to be removed

@mighty stump it's time for church

[old tulip]

ty ty!!

[molten oasis]

Literally why I didn’t use Wordpress

It’s so limited

[mighty stump]

if yoh want a full explanation into the Archaludon/Comfey mode, you can read up on my blogpost which has the sets I used too

[mighty stump]

Hatenablog has so much customisation its pog

[old tulip]

@mighty stump ty ty!!

[gentle crag]

schiller. has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

https://t.co/yPFeHUErgI

[molten oasis]

Isn’t it Japanese tho

[mighty stump]

theres an “english” mode but I used a combination of inference and google lens to figure out the things

and memorised what the buttons do

@molten oasis also good blog. I’d recommend bullet pointing/formatting the calcs so its a bit more readable

[molten oasis]

Cool, I’ll do that tonight maybe

I felt like it was a bit mashed together at times but I had to work so I couldnt fix it

[craggy dagger]

i heard churchaludon-

[mighty stump]

mashallah

[molten oasis]

I never want to sweep and mop a lobby again

My back is in agony

[outer dagger]

People on ladder BO1 come up with the most absurd techs sometimes. Just gotta tip my cap at this point.