#competitive_discussion | Pokemon Winds and Waves | Page 134

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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I saw one person say about how like
SD Gambit has a nice spot in meta rn and I can see it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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Especially on bolt

dapper crag Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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Move: Kowtow Cleave

This move does not check accuracy.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

85

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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Cleave into Articuno hold up

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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You could get balsy and drop protect

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:16 PM

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I ain't that fuckin crazy now

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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I think gambit REALLY wants the steel coversge

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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You tera Fairy? Good
Lando

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Ok

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Don’t- what if you don’t have lando

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Harc can fire away too

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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nvm my points are worthless when lando exists

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Fairy Bolt no longer resists Flare Blitz Harc

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:18 PM

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And I’m not gonna go further into this cuz I’m tired and stressed out

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You do you

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:18 PM

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It's a rough draft I just threw together but it's something

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:18 PM

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K, just, I hate double dark

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That’s all

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Hello Monke and Drago

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Yeah
Actually could probably afford to lose Kowtow for snow since Harc
Kowtow is just extra insurance

whole ibex Mar 20, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Why’s that?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:20 PM

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I just realized I have Safety Goggles free and I didn't slap it on Gambit

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:20 PM

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whole ibex Why’s that?

First of all

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Better design

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/adcfb993b9c9e2ba
@timber falcon NVM this one

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:21 PM

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I do not care what anyone thinks I think hero form palafin is ugly

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:21 PM

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gambit?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:21 PM

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Second, I like that there’s 2 forms, it makes teambuilding around a shifu more interesting

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Third, as much as it’s broken I think unseen fist is very interesting

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It should be nerfed

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But I do like that you can force people to be offensive with shifu

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It changes the pace of a battle

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I don’t like setting up palafin, ever

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It’s irritating and baby form is pretty shit

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:23 PM

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molten oasis It changes the pace of a battle

That is why Urshifu is toxic meta

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:23 PM

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This is a very healthy meta idk what you’re talking about

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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molten oasis This is a very healthy meta idk what you’re talking about

In reg E and D

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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bold geode https://pokepast.es/adcfb993b9c9e2ba <@1054487991252422768> NVM this one

what is the lando calced for? just interested

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Reg d was bad, I won’t lie

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Reg e however was healthy

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Ogerpon made shifu very manageable

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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True

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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timber falcon gambit?

I think Gambit has it's own reasons
Actually In fact, Drago has a point with tera Fairy
But change Iron Head for Kowtow cuz I forgot
Can help with snow plus now that I think about it, you need Kowtow for Psyspam

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:24 PM

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In F bolt exists

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:25 PM

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Yea and single strike can’t hit fairies

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:25 PM

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Bolt just existing is terrible for urshifu

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:25 PM

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bold geode I think Gambit has it's own reasons Actually In fact, Drago has a point with ter...

yeah ok thanks this makes sense

gentle cragBOT Mar 20, 2024, 6:25 PM

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timber falcon yeah ok thanks this makes sense

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:25 PM

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We have things NOW to handle shifu and I think reg e/f are healthy metas

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When palafin was meta we had

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Amoonguss, and Gyarados

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Palafin was really hard to deal with unless you also had it, and I HATE metas like that

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:26 PM

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timber falcon yeah ok thanks this makes sense

Also that Lando set is from OG Japan balance
As far as I know, just a standard Sub set which also helps with Trick Room MUs as it somehow helps you stall it out unless it's like
Blood Moon Ursaluna Farigiraf

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Cuz sound moves go through Substitute

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:26 PM

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Palafin sucked

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To handle, and it caused me to not like it nearly as much

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:27 PM

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molten oasis Palafin was really hard to deal with unless you also had it, and I HATE metas li...

Gyarados walled it

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:27 PM

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bold geode Also that Lando set is from OG Japan balance As far as I know, just a standard S...

wouldnt gambit already help with tr MU?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:27 PM

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autumn vault Gyarados walled it

Yea but again, that was one of the only ways to handle it

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:27 PM

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id rather a max spatck lando tbh

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:28 PM

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molten oasis Yea but again, that was one of the only ways to handle it

That is true, now i cant think of killing it fast enough without that and dnite chien pao

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:28 PM

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To handle the shifus we have bolt, gapdos, your own shifu (rapid into single), flutter, torn, Primarina, sylveon isn’t half bad into them, rillaboom, etc

whole ibex Mar 20, 2024, 6:28 PM

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molten oasis Ogerpon made shifu very manageable

Could you say the same thing for Gyarados and Palafin?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:29 PM

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Kinda

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Here’s the thing with ogerpon, it can kill it

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Gyara just walled it

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So not not really

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Gyara slowed it down that’s really all it did

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Ogerpon slows down shifu and threatens it

whole ibex Mar 20, 2024, 6:30 PM

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I honestly dislike reg d and f partially cause of Shifu Torn

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:30 PM

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timber falcon wouldnt gambit already help with tr MU?

Well it doesn't hurt also considering Sandsear is honestly unreliable AF

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:30 PM

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whole ibex I honestly dislike reg d and f partially cause of Shifu Torn

Reg d was bad

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Shifu torn was really hard to manage

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However in reg e wellspring was a great answer

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And reg f you literally have a single Mon to handle it

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Also hands is good into it

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Oh yea hands was also okay into palafin

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Well, good

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Hands never ohkoed it but it chunked it

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Wasn’t really a counter tho cuz 2 wave crashes always killed it

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:32 PM

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Also OT you can like
You can try swapping out Harc or Amoongus for Incin or Rillaboom or both depending on stuff cuz like
Psyspam is probably the roughest looking MU, but this version I sent you don't look bad either

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It's just up to preference

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:32 PM

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So, from my point of view

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:33 PM

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Also @timber falcon make that shroom 0IV plz I forgot lol

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:33 PM

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I like the current reg because of the amount of tools we have to handle the things that are meta

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 6:33 PM

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In speed

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:33 PM

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molten oasis I like the current reg because of the amount of tools we have to handle the thin...

This and the existence of bolt is why i love reg F

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:33 PM

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Bolt handles shifu torn, lando handles bolt and hands, ogerpon and it’s many forms handle many things

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Reg c and before just felt ass to go through

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Paonite was rampant, palafin was really hard to handle at times

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Chi flutter was difficult

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Very HO metas

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It was hard to slow anything down

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Reg B is imo the 2nd worst format

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:35 PM

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I think a is worse

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Dozo was, yea reg a almost made me quit

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And I barely started

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:35 PM

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I was one of those dozo players

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Dozo sucked so much

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:35 PM

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I hardly ever played against dozogiri for some reason

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Lucky

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:36 PM

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And when they showed up i switched in my murkrow in the back and ruin their days

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Yea, I’m ngl reg f is the best format we’ve had by a mile

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Reg e was still a lot of tornshifu

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But reg e would be next, then c, then b, then d, then a

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:37 PM

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Reg F > A > C > E > D > B

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:38 PM

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What did you hate about reg b

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:38 PM

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molten oasis What did you hate about reg b

Flutter mane

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Thing nearly made me quit

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:38 PM

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Flutter was kinda gross reg b

timber falcon Mar 20, 2024, 6:38 PM

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when is flutter not gross

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:39 PM

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timber falcon when is flutter not gross

The answers to flutter were very very far and few between

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Nowadays we have many more

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In reg b there was (Tera reliant) hands

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:39 PM

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And i hated people that said flutter is healthy, excuse me a thing that bulldozes through teams with d-gleam with tera fairy is apparently healthy

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:39 PM

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Arcanine, technically moon

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I- hmm

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I think Tera pushes it

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Tera makes flutter so annoying to deal with

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:40 PM

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Atleast xerneas isn't with flutter because with the combos it can do, i dont want to imagine it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:41 PM

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The only thing that remotely balances it is having paper physical bulk but even then

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They’re all bulky

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And they feel bulkier than my fucking Primarina

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:41 PM

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molten oasis The only thing that remotely balances it is having paper physical bulk but even ...

Flutter is made by a 12 year old no doubt

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:41 PM

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And I shoved A TON of physical defense into it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:41 PM

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autumn vault Flutter is made by a 12 year old no doubt

Well if you didn’t know

dapper crag Mar 20, 2024, 6:42 PM

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Pokémon No. 429: Mismagius

Type

Ghost

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/60/60/105/105/105

Total

495

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:42 PM

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That’s partially why the stats are the way they are

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That entire line does that

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:42 PM

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dapper crag

I was making a joke, i was referencing a YT video

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Still should not have made its stats crazy as fuck

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:43 PM

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I did not get it then lol

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Tbf idk how else they would have done it

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Unless they gave it an actual stat spread

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I still think it be strong, fairy ghost is a very strong typing

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Pretty sure steel normal is the only way to wall it

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Or fire/poison/steel+bulletproof

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Oh fire/poison normal also works

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Yea anyway

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Paradox mons are cool, I hate flutter

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Take flutter out and the game is better

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(Although it being the fsiry attacker is fine)

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I don’t think it’s healthy

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But I don’t think it’s toxic either

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Flutter keeps the shifus in check

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It checks dengo

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:47 PM

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Honestly flutter should have never received moonblast

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D gleam is bad enough

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:49 PM

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Tera fairy moonblast is gross

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I think that pushes it to broke the most

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:50 PM

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I used Palafin in reg B and it murdered every flutter mane ever

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:51 PM

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Yea, flutter wasn’t built bulky and has paper defense

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Rillaboom also a great answer to flutter

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Atleast it will drop in usage in the restricted format

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Zacian and calyrex shadow are just upgrades to it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Uhhh

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Not by much

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Still will

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Zacian is a pretty different Mon

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:53 PM

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I want it to not be the no 1 used pokemon thats all

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:53 PM

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I don’t think it is rn

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:54 PM

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And yes zacian is different but they are both fairy types

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:54 PM

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I think it’s wellspring

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Yea but zacian isn’t Tera fairy play roughing

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:55 PM

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True

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:55 PM

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Maybe it’s gonna do Tera steel things but I doubt you want an offensive Tera for it

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:55 PM

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But what about Calyrex shadow? They do nearly the same thing

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And shadow is bulkier

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Its literally an upgrade

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:55 PM

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Shadow isn’t Tera ghost astral barraging

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It’s overkill

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:55 PM

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Maybe

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Or tera psychic for psyspam

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:56 PM

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And prefers a defensive Tera to dodge sucker punches

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Yea cuz it really wants to eat a snarl

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A few snarls

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:56 PM

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True

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:56 PM

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Caly is not the same Mon as flutter

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:56 PM

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I do think dark is the best tera

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:56 PM

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It’s typing is worse

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:57 PM

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Farigiraf stops the priority

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But i doubt farigiraf would be able to compete reliably

fallow mulch Mar 20, 2024, 6:57 PM

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Shot in the dark gentleman but does anyone have a custap berry they’d part ways with

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:57 PM

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Oh shit Fari walls it

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Oh also caly isn’t walled by dark types like incin and ting Lu

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Is

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:57 PM

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I would go tera blast tera fighting

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 6:58 PM

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We’ll see what people end up doing

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 6:58 PM

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Dark is good to take both weaknesses

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Fighting for the dark types

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But we will see what they do with it

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I plan to bring a zekrom team into the restricted format

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I have a team that is built, i still need to build in game

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:06 PM

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autumn vault I plan to bring a zekrom team into the restricted format

I’m committing to using palkia, cause vibes

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:07 PM

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I’m still going zacian, I like him

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Or her, isn’t zacian a girl? I swear I saw something about that

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It’s implied it’s female

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Fair enough, I’m currently thinking of pairing up palkia with ting-lu, amoongus, Incineroar (I couldn’t bring myself not to use it) and something else

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:08 PM

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I like her* then lol

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:08 PM

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I have no idea mate

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Palkia is interesting

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:08 PM

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It’s a cool mon

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I like the typing

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:09 PM

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I’m probably gonna rebuild the zacian team I made at some point

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Fair, what’s on the team rn?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Might try howl shit

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Zac wellspring lando t urshi d bolt and rilla

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:10 PM

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d bolt?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:10 PM

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I’m avoiding incarnate lando, I still hate it

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Sorry I’m tired, darkshifu

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Oh

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:10 PM

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I plan to use a ddance zekrom with amoonguss rillaboom incin glimmora and urshifu-rapid

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Hmm, I’ll be back

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:11 PM

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autumn vault I plan to use a ddance zekrom with amoonguss rillaboom incin glimmora and urshif...

I’m gonna make a claim I helped with the double restricted version of your team.

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:11 PM

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willow vault I’m gonna make a claim I helped with the double restricted version of your team.

True

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Instead of glimm it was shadow rider calyrex in it

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Yeah, cool team though

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Thanks

whole ibex Mar 20, 2024, 7:12 PM

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bold geode Also OT you can like You can try swapping out Harc or Amoongus for Incin or Ril...

What made you want to use Palafin?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:13 PM

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whole ibex What made you want to use Palafin?

Straight fuckin hysteria

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Valid

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:13 PM

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whole ibex What made you want to use Palafin?

Its OTOT who wants to use it

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:13 PM

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I'm at the point rn I'm just like
What dumb shit can I do

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Not MonkeVGC

whole ibex Mar 20, 2024, 7:14 PM

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molten oasis I like the current reg because of the amount of tools we have to handle the thin...

I like Reg F which is why I’m concerned about Reg G

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:15 PM

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Honestly

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I don’t think the meta is gonna shift super super hard

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A lot of the current relevant things seem fine into single restricted

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:18 PM

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bold geode I'm at the point rn I'm just like What dumb shit can I do

Spidops

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Yw

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:20 PM

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I recently saw Aaron Zheng's new video on sand, must be the reason why i see a lot of tyranitars recently

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:20 PM

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bold geode I'm at the point rn I'm just like What dumb shit can I do

Sandshrew

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:20 PM

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Also I just showed it to another Discord
And they said I could easily win points at a regional with it
Wtf

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:20 PM

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A spidops?

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Could win points?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:20 PM

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And another said replace Dolphin with bear and the team is strong

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No the Palafin team

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Basically the team is worth a shit

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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bold geode And another said replace Dolphin with bear and the team is strong

What bear?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Somehow

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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autumn vault What bear?

Urshifu

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Idk what other wet bear is there

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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bold geode Idk what other wet bear is there

Ursaluna and its Blood Moon form are some examples of bear

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Damn you right

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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bold geode And another said replace Dolphin with bear and the team is strong

Wow, that’s crazy

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:21 PM

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bold geode Idk what other wet bear is there

Tera water pangoro, when it’s released.

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:22 PM

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What discord server is this in?

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Also fun fact

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:22 PM

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The one I'm in that has Nicholas Donnely in it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:22 PM

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You get a 3 Mon fwg and fantasy core with zacian wellspring and gouging fire

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:22 PM

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bold geode The one I'm in that has Nicholas Donnely in it

👀

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Did he invite you in?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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molten oasis You get a 3 Mon fwg and fantasy core with zacian wellspring and gouging fire

Nah
I want Rillaboom

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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Cuz that’s awesome

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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molten oasis You get a 3 Mon fwg and fantasy core with zacian wellspring and gouging fire

fwg?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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molten oasis Did he invite you in?

No I was in the server way before he joined

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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bold geode And another said replace Dolphin with bear and the team is strong

I remember in a showdown VGC chatroom i sent an ursaluna team i used, i said i was struggling with lando i and someone said AV bolt, and he called himself the "fixer", yeah right, "fixing" my team when you are making it worse, i just put 124+ evs on cress and ice beam and was done with it

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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But
Remember the memes me and Sour made

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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Ah, neat. Is the server invite only?

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:23 PM

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He loved those

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I honestly don't know

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:24 PM

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You should check thumbsup

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:24 PM

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willow vault fwg?

Fire water grass

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Oh right, now I feel very dumb

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Okay my midterm has been graded

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:26 PM

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How did you do?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:27 PM

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21/30, yikes

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There were literally things on the midterm I did not know

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Like I didn’t study court cases

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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@molten oasis BO3

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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And there were a few questions on those

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So I think that’s where I lost points

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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What name

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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I did study, but yea that hurts a bit lol

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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70% seems pretty good to me… is that like different education system making me think that

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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21/30

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Oops

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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Yeah 70%

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Ah, that’s a C

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Which is ok, I passed

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(Barely)

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:29 PM

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WTH? 70% = C. That’s wild

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Monke lemme get my laptop out rq

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:29 PM

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70% seems pretty good

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:30 PM

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A C is a pass

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Yeah but that seems really high on marks for that grade. What education system do you have?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Fucking American

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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molten oasis Fucking American

Oh

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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F is under 59%

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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That’s why

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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molten oasis F is under 59%

Wtf

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I live in Europe and a 4,9 (or 49%) is enough to fail

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:32 PM

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@bold geode username is Drayagedrago

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:32 PM

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autumn vault I live in Europe and a 4,9 (or 49%) is enough to fail

Same

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:32 PM

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Yea, I hate the education system here

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But it is what it is

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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Sounds terrible and I live in England

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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One sec monke

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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And our education system is becoming so bad

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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Sent

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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The team paste is wrong

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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Mine isn't that great either

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Governments need to improve it ngl

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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autumn vault Mine isn't that great either

Where are you from?

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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willow vault Where are you from?

I rather not say it

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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Oh fair my bad

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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Its a bit close to the UK, all i will say

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Not France

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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Ok, understood

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:35 PM

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autumn vault Not France

Hate France. Complete bias, but I really don’t like France, because of the eating of frogs like why????

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:36 PM

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willow vault Hate France. Complete bias, but I really don’t like France, because of the eatin...

As someone who's country is very close to France we reach to an agreement

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I hate it because of them cheeserats

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And that too

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Oddly my favourite European country is probably Liechtenstein. Idk why it’s just cool

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:37 PM

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I dont have a favourite country

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:38 PM

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I mean fair enough

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Anyways, when do we find out the next regs ruleset?

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:40 PM

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Next month

willow vault Mar 20, 2024, 7:40 PM

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Ok

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Idk, it’s odd. This has probably been my favourite reg yet and I’m worried ‘if’ it’s solo restricted. I feel like dual restricted formats are slightly better, personally

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 7:49 PM

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@bold geode ggs well played

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 7:50 PM

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GG forgot about fucking tera

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 8:31 PM

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2085456317
This is what I get for bringing back Palance apparently

[Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg F: Dmfmsmdk vs. Dolphin Monke - Replays - Poké...

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Dmfmsmdk and Dolphin Monke! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg F; Date: Mar 20, 2024

mighty stump Mar 20, 2024, 8:39 PM

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willow vault Hate France. Complete bias, but I really don’t like France, because of the eatin...

Frogs have the texture of fish while tasting like chicken

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It’s quite pleasant

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Not a french thjng only either

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Asia has a bunch of them

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 8:46 PM

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bold geode https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2085456317 This is what I get...

Atleast you got a win

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 8:46 PM

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252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 236 HP / 100 Def Incineroar: 186-218 (93 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 8:46 PM

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atomic mural 252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 236 HP / 100 Def Incineroar: 186-218 (93 -...

Did you include -1?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 8:46 PM

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-1 252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 236 HP / 100 Def Incineroar: 122-146 (61 - 73%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery

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just seeing if i can live a neutral attack stat from groudon with max attack evs and adamant

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252+ Atk Groudon Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Bundle in Sun: 113-133 (86.2 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

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bro iron bundle can live heat crash

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dosent even need focus sash 100% of the time 💪

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252 SpA Mystic Water Tera-Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Ogerpon in Rain: 120-142 (64.1 - 75.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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252 SpA Tera-Water Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Ogerpon: 108-128 (57.7 - 68.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

bold geode Mar 20, 2024, 8:52 PM

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mighty stump Frogs have the texture of fish while tasting like chicken

Up late or up early?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 8:54 PM

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What should gholdengo live

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 8:54 PM

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+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 121-144 (64.7 - 77%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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not even counting electric seed

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 8:54 PM

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I’m doing some calcs

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Besides wicked blow

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Nvm it doesn’t lol

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 8:57 PM

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Did you know that AV sand Tyranitar is so bulky it lives a modest max base power water spout?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Ok now I really need to know what dengo needs to live

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 8:58 PM

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252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 104-126 (50.2 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 8:59 PM

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dang

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 8:59 PM

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What about tera?

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252+ SpA Tera-Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 140-168 (67.6 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Why is tyranitar so bulky in sand

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Without AV it can survive a modest water spout easily just with tera it dies

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 9:00 PM

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because it can

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 9:00 PM

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252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 156-186 (75.3 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

tough idol Mar 20, 2024, 9:00 PM

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What happens if Kyogre comes in a turn after Ttar and you have Rain instead

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 9:01 PM

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tough idol What happens if Kyogre comes in a turn after Ttar and you have Rain instead

Well, it dies

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 9:01 PM

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it dies obviously because it dosent have a special defense boost

autumn vault Mar 20, 2024, 9:01 PM

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252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Rain: 354-416 (171 - 200.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Rain: 236-278 (114 - 134.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Rain: 216-254 (104.3 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 9:10 PM

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autumn vault 252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Rain: 354-4...

did you end up finishing that zekrom team?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 9:11 PM

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What speed does rilla tend to hit?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 9:18 PM

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the highest ive seen is 76 evs and neutral speed nature

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 9:22 PM

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Yea i hit 116

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Gholdengo @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 204 HP / 60 Def / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Make It Rain
Shadow Ball
Nasty Plot
Protect

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New spread. We live sucker punch from jolly pao, Tera water surging strikes, and -1 earth power from 252+ LORB Bloodmoon

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I felt that calc made sense since I have snarl bolt

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 9:44 PM

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesubers-2085501728-fqv4mb2d8ogn81w355goinokuwgrnwupw

[Gen 9] Doubles Ubers: DJCornyGaming vs. BiancaFalsus - Replays - P...

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pretty proud of this

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the guy didnt play the best

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+2 252+ Atk Dondozo Order Up vs. 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 79-94 (42.2 - 50.2%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Is that how people are preparing for reg g

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Does Ubers let you use anything or only things in that tier?

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@atomic mural

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Anything I think

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It just sucks that you can’t limit to 4 Pokémon and they are level 100

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:11 PM

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Yea

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:11 PM

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atomic mural It just sucks that you can’t limit to 4 Pokémon and they are level 100

We can bo3 reg g stuff if you want

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Just ping me

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:13 PM

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molten oasis We can bo3 reg g stuff if you want

sure

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@molten oasis Im down

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Alr

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Can’t atm

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:18 PM

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aight

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:18 PM

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Gimme 20 minutes and I need to build a team lol

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:18 PM

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ah ok lol

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:55 PM

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Oh

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Right, @atomic mural ready?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:56 PM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Cool, I’ll go get set up in a minute here

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Username?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:56 PM

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make sure they are level 50\

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Oh make sure everything is lvl 50

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:57 PM

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DJCornyGaming

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Wrong one oops

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 10:58 PM

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oh

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open team sheet?

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Uh, yiu wanna set up?

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Idk what to do lol

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:00 PM

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just do custom game and we just forfeit when we lose 4 pokemon

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:00 PM

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Ah ok

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:01 PM

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can I have your open team sheet team?

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https://pokepast.es/2b35ed96b7470bbf

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:02 PM

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https://pokepast.es/08569402e94568a7

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Oh there’s evs, whatever

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:09 PM

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gg

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Miraidon

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Ugh

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OHKOS A ZACIAN

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I’m not playing restricted that’s fucking bullshit

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

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huh

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

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i think the turn that won me the game was reading the switch to landorus t

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

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What do I do inti that man

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

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atomic mural i think the turn that won me the game was reading the switch to landorus t

Yea, that mu is also ass

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

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electro drift would prolly kill zacian yeah-
steel doesn’t resist electric

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:17 PM

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So it doesn’t matter

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:17 PM

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ting lu could be good

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is immune to electro drift and can weaken its offense

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:17 PM

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Well you’re Tera fairy specs

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With gleam

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So no not really

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:17 PM

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still not bad

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:17 PM

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ugh

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Zacian balance feels shit

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With gouging fire

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:18 PM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 190-225 (101.6 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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that stinks yeah

dapper crag Mar 20, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Yea fuck that

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:18 PM

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with base-
115 huh…

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:18 PM

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That’s insane, miraidon can burn in hell

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Like that’s insane

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Never not running rillaboom

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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dragons are coming back

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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Not really cuz miraidon can just click pulse or meteor

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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atomic mural dragons are coming back

for sure-
miraidon will most likely be everywhere

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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Ground types are probably gonna be everywhere as in lando i

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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dunno about the rest

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:19 PM

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headwall

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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molten oasis Ground types are probably gonna be everywhere as in lando i

yeah

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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That just felt unfair man

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You played fine

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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molten oasis Ground types are probably gonna be everywhere as in lando i

fireflyimdead

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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good counter to other miradons and with follow me and fake out support my lando I can run nasty plot and run away with the game

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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The fact that electro drift ONE SHOT a zacian has me fuming

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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sounds like i’m quitting vgc when restricted hits

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Volt Switch vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 133-157 (71.1 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO volt switch is also crazy

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:20 PM

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wtf

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:21 PM

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K I’m gonna make tweaks

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If any are possible

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0e82e1e20324e642 heres the teams evs btw

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:21 PM

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As in dropping gouging Fire cuz it sucks

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:22 PM

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its not horrible

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that howl strat with zacian and lando t isnt bad

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:22 PM

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Mmmm in my hands no

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And it loses to bundle miraidon

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:22 PM

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its just miradon is a piece of shit

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:22 PM

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And groudon

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Ugh

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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don’t think we’ll be seeing groudon as much though

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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tera grass I feel like would be a better tera for zacian. you would still be weak to fire

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but like

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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That’s the problem

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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kyogre mirai zacian

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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I don’t want to keep that

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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ground?

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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don’t forget shadow dee

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:23 PM

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No fire

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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i thought ground resisted fire

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Ugh idk, lemme go make adjustments

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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probably just deja vu

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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atomic mural i thought ground resisted fire

It doesn’t yea

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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atomic mural i thought ground resisted fire

rock does i think

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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That mu feels so unfair

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Mostly cuz miraidon, just

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Exists

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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the most common teras in regulation g would probably be normal and ground

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or just tera that resist shado rider calyrex and miradons stab moves

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terapagos could be good

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:25 PM

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I don’t think I can last without speed control so, fun

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:25 PM

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with its ability it can remove terrain

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AND weather

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and its signature move makes it super effective against every terastalized pokemon

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its just that zacian can just one shot it with close combat

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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atomic mural the most common teras in regulation g would probably be normal and ground

dark ground prolly-
but early reg i’m calling grass cause of tera specs water spout

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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and electro drift

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also amoongus is going to have the least usage ever due to electric terrain going to be crazy common

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and it blocking sleep

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also iron bundle was really bad for it and only suffered because of sleep and now thats gone

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also ting lu is probably gonna come back in some factor

tough idol Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Damn so I gotta go catch more Ting Lus then lol

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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rage powder support i assume-
or we see a resurgence in sinischa

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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heres the thing

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if tera grass is very common

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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K

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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cause rage powder good for redirecting miraidon :0

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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I’m ready for another round

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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craggy dagger cause rage powder good for redirecting miraidon :0

true true

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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unless mirai clicks a spread move PikaLmao

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e5cdf0156984ab56 not thah im fond of just slapping this core on here but whatever

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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alright whats your user

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Using niche picks is impossible when miraidon ohkos every neutral hit

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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atomic mural alright whats your user

Drayagedrago

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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power creep baby

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:32 PM

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electric terrain is just stupid

chrome knot Mar 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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craggy dagger electric terrain is just stupid

so just change the terrain

craggy dagger Mar 20, 2024, 11:38 PM

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chrome knot so just change the terrain

no shit-
we haven’t had much terrain wars so it’ll be interesting to see for sure…

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grassy psychic and now we have electric

chrome knot Mar 20, 2024, 11:39 PM

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im a big advocate for answering like an idiot

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:40 PM

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gg

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Gg

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That felt more doable, bolt was nice

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:45 PM

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i played horrible

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Uhm, idk if that crit mattered

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Lemme check

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:46 PM

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gg

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:46 PM

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+2 196+ SpA Raging Bolt Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Landorus: 190-225 (115.8 - 137.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO it did not

#

Assuming you’re no bulk

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:47 PM

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yeah no

#

pure offensive lando

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:47 PM

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Oh, btw I think nasty plot is heavy overkill

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Or like, sub is better as a set up move

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If that makes sense

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:47 PM

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i think I just need to find a better ev spread

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Why exactly do you want np?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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becase nasty plot works for my team

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Also sorry I got kinda mad earlier I really did not expect miraidon to ohko zscian like that and it tilted me

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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makes sense

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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atomic mural becase nasty plot works for my team

That’s not, do you have something more specific

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:48 PM

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well yeah

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:49 PM

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It works for my team is just broad

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:49 PM

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im saying nasty plot can be used more ofen due to intimidate and follow me on my two supports

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as well as doing damage

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:49 PM

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Well, nasty plot is generally better on mons that are built to be bulky

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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I do like the concept but you 1, need to do calcs and 2, I just don’t think lando I needs it

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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I thinmk im gonnba redo the ev spread

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Does miraidon get set up?

dapper crag Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Miraidon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Body Slam, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Facade, Giga Impact, Heavy Slam, Outrage, Supercell Slam, Take Down, U-turn, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dazzling Gleam, Discharge, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Electro Ball, Electro Drift, Flash Cannon, Hyper Beam, Mirror Coat, Overheat, Parabolic Charge, Power Gem, Shock Wave, Snarl, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Charge, Confuse Ray, Dragon Cheer, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Taunt, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Miraidon.

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:50 PM

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calm mind but people usually want to use physical moves on it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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Physical moves on miraidon what?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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to do damage

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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special but ok

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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no

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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Miraidon is a special attacker

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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not to use on miradon

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fuck

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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OH I see, sorry I got confused

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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I am so brain dead

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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What physical attackers threaten it besides like, zacian

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:51 PM

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groudon

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:52 PM

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oh groudon, lol

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Isn’t that it tho?

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Then your other threats are like, lando

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Bolt (to some extent)

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Flutter

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:52 PM

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i think I should do sandsear storm ion stead of nasty plot

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because it makes me want to set up when I dont need to

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:53 PM

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Yea

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It’s unnecessary

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Do you want a set up Mon?

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:54 PM

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I have iron boulder

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swords dance clear amulet is pretty good

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and with electric terrain

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it dosent need to waste its item on booster energy

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:55 PM

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Right you have boulder

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:55 PM

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I could make it iron hands instead

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:55 PM

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That typing is a mess

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Yea honestly

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Hands seems solid

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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more fake out support means that I could use nasty plot landorus

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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No that’s not, yiu can set up hands

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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ik

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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Swords dance hands looks better than nasty plot lando here

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:57 PM

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I just feel like an assault vest set would be better for a restricted format with a ton of strong special attackers

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:57 PM

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I mean, we have lando and flutter

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Oh yea, I think that’s why hands is just kinda dead lol

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And idk if it returns cuz incin also ruins its life

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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ill stick with iron boulder

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but if it starts to suck

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Ill try iron hands

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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I will warn you that’s not unlikely

atomic mural Mar 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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I just havent had the chance to use it

molten oasis Mar 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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It’s typing mostly holds it back

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Fat Tera hog

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So if you bring it yku probably just need to make sure the Tera is for it

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:00 AM

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I think iron hands would be nice

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it would have a better typing

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:00 AM

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If you do hands I think you go for clear amulet swords dance and just kinda accept that lando is a bad mu

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And flutter

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Which you have answers for with bundle and ogerpon

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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did you know miradon can outspeed and one shot most flutter mane with electro drift after an icy wind speed drop?

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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It ohkoed a zacian

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I’ll check but it probably wipes flutter too

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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tera water makes the most sense here right?

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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You’re 36 modest with specs right?

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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Cool

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Tera, hmm

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Water is fine

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane in Electric Terrain: 166-196 (105.7 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO i fucking hate this thing wth

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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lmao

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Iron Hands @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

Thunder Punch
Fake Out
Swords Dance
Drain Punch

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evs are sure to change

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fake out is a maybe

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probably better for it to be detect

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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100/156/252

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Hp attack special defense

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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molten oasis 36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Flu...

Ouch

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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You still run wild charge

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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yeah because drain punch right

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ogerpon can now run another move thats not super power

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Mhmm, that and even at +2 you’ll probably miss kos

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Super power also counteracts your defense boost

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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That confused me during the match

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It’s just support I assume?

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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you see im called a beginner to competitive

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yeah

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helping hand right

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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You kicked my ass the first bo3

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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you just didnt know the strength of miradon yet

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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Ok true

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Literally never not running rillaboom reg g

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:07 AM

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https://pokepast.es/06c0969bdf115428 this could work

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Ogerpon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Counter, Double Kick, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Horn Leech, Ivy Cudgel, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Play Rough, Power Whip, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Reversal, Rock Tomb, Seed Bomb, Slam, Solar Blade, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, U-turn, Vine Whip, Wood Hammer, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Solar Beam, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Charm, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Follow Me, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Spiky Shield, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ogerpon.

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Encore or knock off imo

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Id personally rather have wellspring or hearth here but whatever

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:09 AM

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I decided on ogerpon grass because its tera dosent make it weak to miradons electro drift, groudons precipice blades, and kyogres water spout

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and with its already decent bulk with electric seed its very bulky

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like it took a double up from rillaboom and zacian like a boss

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252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash (1st Use) vs. +1 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 172-204 (91.9 - 109%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:11 AM

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atomic mural like it took a double up from rillaboom and zacian like a boss

Rilla was also -1 and zacian was neutral but yea

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Anyway

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Solid team

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:12 AM

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atomic mural 252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash (1st Use) vs. +1 252 ...

just gonna ignore the sheer insanity this calc is

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ik its a 50/50

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but its still kinda crazy

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Yea for sure

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Anyone looked Koraidon teams much yet?

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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If you wanna go again lmk, that goes for anyone I’m always down to bo3 reg f or g

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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tough idol Anyone looked Koraidon teams much yet?

I haven’t

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Mostly cuz I’m not super interested in using it

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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ill try making one

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Just go like

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Basic sun team with koraidon

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:15 AM

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assault vest koraidon could be good

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makes it pretty bulky

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:15 AM

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What’s the point, you don’t live flutter

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Which is its main ass mu

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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yeah Ig thats true

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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I think clear amulet is really solid on it

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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yeah and miradon can obliterate it

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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Would it help having you're own Flutter set for Speed from Proto and Specs?

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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This’ll be common from me, incin will literally be everywhere

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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icy wind electro drift babyyy

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM

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That’s why I said standard sun

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And also that’s good for caly

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Hmm, ground Zac might not be half bad

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On paper

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Although Zac has an overall positive mu into miraidon

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:18 AM

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thats what im saying

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yeah and if its tera ground iron bundle can hit with freeze dry and hydro pump

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:18 AM

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…

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You want me to Tera ground so your iron bundle kills it

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:18 AM

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noooooooooo

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:19 AM

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bruh

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:19 AM

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i would NEVER

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:19 AM

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Sure

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Tbf I have no idea what Tera to give it

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:20 AM

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idk man zacian might just be a fairy for steel as an offense tera

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like tera steel behemoth blade sounds kind of nutty

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+1 156 Atk Tera-Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 170-200 (90.9 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

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yeah if you went tera steel my ogerpon would need that electric seed

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+1 156 Atk Tera-Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. +1 252 HP / 92+ Def Ogerpon: 114-136 (60.9 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:22 AM

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What about the miraidon

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Fairy Tera

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:23 AM

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+1 156 Atk Tera-Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Miraidon: 87-103 (42 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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heres without tera

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+1 156 Atk Tera-Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 348-412 (168.1 - 199%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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heres with tera

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:23 AM

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how the fuck is that a 3HKO

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:23 AM

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bro

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if you arent at +1

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156 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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I’m gonna kms HOW IS THAT FAIR

next stump Mar 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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who’s going to be running max HP miraidon though

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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me thats who

next stump Mar 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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that seems kinda grief

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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Pokémon No. 1008: Miraidon

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Hadron Engine

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/100/135/115/135

Total

670

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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and with iron bundle icy wind it can be bulky and fast

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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It’s so bulky damn

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 111-132 (66.4 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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There’s no terrain

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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i forgot your evs

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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156hp 60 def

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4 spD

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:26 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Fairy Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 190-225 (101.6 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:26 AM

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plankton

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:26 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 109-130 (58.2 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:26 AM

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I hate that thing

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:26 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 165-195 (88.2 - 104.2%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

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my ogerpon gonne be crazy

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:27 AM

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Wait now that I think about it, is the hp just general bulk?

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And what’s the speed calc for

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:28 AM

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hold on whats your speed stat

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:28 AM

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Zacian hits 207

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Outspeeds bundle (no boost)

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I saw 0 reason to go max cuz I already don’t outspeed caly

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:29 AM

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whats your speed evs btw

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:29 AM

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164+

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:29 AM

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got it

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zacian rillaboom teams sound like pretty good counters for miradon

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:30 AM

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It is partially why I am never not running rilla

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:30 AM

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lmao

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is there really no misty terrain pokemon legal?

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i dont remember

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

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Galar weezing arkeknine

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

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perfect

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

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No tapu fini is a crime

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It would have been so good

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:32 AM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:32 AM

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Don’t get me wrong I like Primarina but, I want fini lol

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:32 AM

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Pokémon No. 788: Tapu Fini

Types

Water/Fairy

Abilities

Misty Surge, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/75/115/95/130/85

Total

570

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:32 AM

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That bulk is so much better

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The one thing I don’t like about Prima is it’s paper physical defense

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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landorus I sounds like a pretyy good counter to zacian as well

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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lando I is a counter to fucking every steel type on the planet

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 213-252 (113.9 - 134.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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(I hate lando)

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 174-211 (93 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 AM

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plankton

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 AM

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this is with the doubles spread damage calculation

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Lando I also just happens to have amazing coverage

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 AM

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+1 156 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 147-174 (89.6 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:34 AM

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And it’s so hard to cover for it

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124 attack

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:35 AM

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+1 156 Atk Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 132-156 (80.4 - 95.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Yk what, imma Tera steel

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Idt (rn at least) a defensive Tera is worthwhile

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:35 AM

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yeah

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:36 AM

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molten oasis Don’t get me wrong I like Primarina but, I want fini lol

And also is the only Pokémon who can set the misty terrain lol

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:36 AM

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galarian weezing gets misty surge

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:36 AM

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grimmsnarl “am I a joke to you”

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Fini is the only pokemon that can set the misty terrain i said

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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BRO I FORGOT MIRADON GETS OVERHEAT

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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OH my bad

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Fuck he found out

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Overheat vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 192-226 (102.6 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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oh my god

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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bruh

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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no electric terrain

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:37 AM

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atomic mural BRO I FORGOT MIRADON GETS OVERHEAT

what

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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that's actually insane

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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For some

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Unforsaken reason

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They gave it OVERHEAT

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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and with draco meteor

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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molten oasis They gave it OVERHEAT

I don't think you want to run overheat Miraidon but why KANDNDN

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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So like, grass types? That’s funny

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I have overheat

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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it also gives miradon a counter play to rillabooms just removing electric terrain

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Ugh

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Would it one shot Amoonguss?

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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and zacian dies to it without electric terrain

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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I really hope that doesn’t pick up but it’s so likely

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Drago now hates Miraidon even more

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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...

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Overheat vs. 236 HP / 116 SpD Amoonguss: 300-354 (136.9 - 161.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Nah i don't think it would be commom

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Honestly

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Yk how I avoid flutter

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Overheat vs. 236 HP / 116 SpD Amoonguss: 226-266 (103.1 - 121.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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That’s the next mon on that list of avoidance

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Miraidon gets electroweb?

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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even without electric terrain it dies

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Or snarl?

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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I’m going to avoid using miraidon

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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it gets snarl yeah

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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All I need is sword dog

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Nah so

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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It seriously gets snarl and eweb

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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no electro web though

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Miraidon is raging bolt 2

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Okay

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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yeah

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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No, bolt does different things

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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but it cant be countered by farigiraf

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Miraidon is just gonna be offensive most likely

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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it just gets to kill with its electric terrain electro drifts

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Bolt is either a set up Mon or a supportive av Mon

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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molten oasis No, bolt does different things

Yeah, we just have to wait to see when is better Miraidon or Raging

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b68dbd22c6ae6bbc im COOKING with this one 🗣️

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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And also bolt doesn’t take a restricted slot

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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The adventage is that Raging is like a mini Miraidon without wasting your restricted slot

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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jerma

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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foggy lodge The adventage is that Raging is like a mini Miraidon without wasting your restri...

true

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 AM

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I hate that miraidon set

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:43 AM

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Electric, Fire, Dragon, Fairy

Hits for 1x

Electric, Fairy, Fire, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Hits for 2x

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Flying, Grass, Ice, Steel, Water

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:43 AM

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Man

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:43 AM

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also miradon gets the screens, power gem, parabolic charge, and it gets solar beam for some reason

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:43 AM

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I really think that this two items that were in the game's code, the two rocks were made to change Miraidon and Koraidon forms to "control" them more

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But they just decided to get rid of that

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:44 AM

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Yippee

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:44 AM

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also calm mind

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:44 AM

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Bruh they made Koraidon so dirty

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:44 AM

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Miraidon best Mon in the format no question

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Caly can sit down

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:44 AM

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I mean i don't think is bad by itself, but it loses to half the meta game LMAO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Aww man, I won’t get to use dengo much

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Nahhhhh

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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miradon gonna be the new 80% usage rate with this one 🗣️

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Gholdengo is going to be good

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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I can’t send this to people that hate dengo

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Gholdengo is a Pokémon made for competitive

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 AM

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No I can’t

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I’m running zacian

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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tera fairy sounds like a death setence when fighting zacian

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actually no

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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OH MY GOD GHOLDENGO WALLS ZACIAN

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HUH

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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miradon is just that good 😎

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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LET'S GOOO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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Gholdengoat

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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thats something to consider Cleff

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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molten oasis I can’t send this to people that hate dengo

Bruh I was trying to find this image for my last blogpost cuz I was really wanting to use this image for the Knoxville part

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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Hi monke, yiu missed the rant of me being mad about the existence of miraidon

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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atomic mural miradon gonna be the new 80% usage rate with this one 🗣️

Koraidon what do you think
Koraidon: ⚰️

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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bold geode Bruh I was trying to find this image for my last blogpost cuz I was really wanti...

It’s so good

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:47 AM

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foggy lodge Koraidon what do you think Koraidon: ⚰️

Omg guess who hates gholdengo too

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Hahahahaha, I’m abusing this power

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Ah nah

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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hey guys look at this one

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Gholdengo is always that

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 236 HP / 124+ SpD Incineroar in Electric Terrain: 186-220 (93 - 110%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Fuck off zacian gholdengo is my best friend

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Everytime a new regulation starts

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Gholdengo is the fucking worst Pokémon of the game

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Gholdengo disappears and then people realize “hey it’s good”

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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And when the meta starts to evolve Gholdengo makes it's comeback

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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I did that yesterday it solved my teams hole

foggy lodge Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Gholdengo it's fucking krillin

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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molten oasis Fuck off zacian gholdengo is my best friend

Me when I fuck around and find out with Groudon Bolt

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:48 AM

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imagine this image with miradon

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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bold geode Me when I fuck around and find out with Groudon Bolt

Me when I caly ice you hehe

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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Me when I Hearthflame

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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Me when I bolt caly ice

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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Or Incineroar Intimidate

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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Me when clear amulet

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Or Flutter Mane Shadow Ball

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Ok ANYWAY

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Seems dengo will have positive mu’s

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Still, which is crazy

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Dengo has been relevant since it was released

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:50 AM

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Hmm how many Miraidon do I have in HOME lol 😆

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:51 AM

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Do i even have miradon

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im a scarlet player and im trying to cook with miradon

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:51 AM

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Good plan

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I’m a violet player not touching miraidon

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:51 AM

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I'm just insane and replay a lot, Monke and Drago can attest to this lmao 🤣

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:51 AM

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But Amoongus gonna fall off some cuz of Miraidon so I wonder how like
What does Good as Gold still do

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:51 AM

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Yea, how do you have patience

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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bold geode But Amoongus gonna fall off some cuz of Miraidon so I wonder how like What does ...

Taunt prevention

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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molten oasis I’m a violet player not touching miraidon

you could give it to me poliwhirlkek

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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That ability is still good

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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nvm i have one

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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Isn’t good as gold not affected by parting shot

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Or am I dumb

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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yeah it isnt

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:52 AM

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Ability: Good as Gold

This Pokemon is immune to Status moves.

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Great list 10/10

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:53 AM

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good as gold is immune to every status move including helping hand

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Except haze for whatever reason

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Imma go cook something with dengo

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:54 AM

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This guy going to make hundreds of little kids cry

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:54 AM

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And adults

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:54 AM

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fax

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:54 AM

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Also
Why TF
Have I forgot about LabMaus

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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the only reason I have a miradon is because I did a violet nuzlocke electric only on a legit cartridge

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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Wait fuck what restricted do I use with dengo

craggy dagger Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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molten oasis Wait fuck what restricted do I use with dengo

what

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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LabMaus good, how tf have I not looked at it recently

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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molten oasis Wait fuck what restricted do I use with dengo

kyogre seems decent

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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No wonder I've been lackin

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:55 AM

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sigh

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Do I really wanna use kyogre, when miraidon exists

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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lmao

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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No one forgot about Dengo in Reg E though tbh

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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Only 2 in HOME, 2 in game, have 8 Koraidon though

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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tough idol Only 2 in HOME, 2 in game, have 8 Koraidon though

8

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I need one if you’re offering lol

craggy dagger Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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tough idol Only 2 in HOME, 2 in game, have 8 Koraidon though

8 korai wtf

bold geode Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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Dengo reigned, or rained pretty well in Reg E
Why tf did Rain Dengo have to fuck me over

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:56 AM

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Oh right, I GOT MY KORAIDON STOLEN during a touch trade

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That hurt

craggy dagger Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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smh

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Oh

tough idol Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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craggy dagger 8 korai wtf

I replayed Scarlet a lot before i realised I could have second accounts with DLC access

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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tera grass kyogre could be good since miradons overheat would do less damage due to rain

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Ray

dapper crag Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Rayquaza's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bind, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dive, Double-Edge, Dragon Ascent, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Natural Gift, Outrage, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Sky Drop, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, U-turn, V-create, Waterfall, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Air Slash, Ancient Power, Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Meteor Beam, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Round, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twister, Uproar, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Bulk Up, Celebrate, Confide, Cosmic Power, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Thunder Wave, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Rayquaza.

craggy dagger Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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i have a litten problem-

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Wha-

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:58 AM

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36+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Grass Kyogre in Rain: 106-126 (60.2 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO If you are running max speed max sp attack

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:58 AM

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craggy dagger i have a litten problem-

nice

molten oasis Mar 21, 2024, 12:58 AM

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RAY GETS V-CREATE

atomic mural Mar 21, 2024, 12:58 AM

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you have alot of ready incineroars to put on shiny vgc flex teams

craggy dagger Mar 21, 2024, 12:58 AM

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