#competitive_discussion
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just go find a different server or be patient, the shiny sewaddles aren't going anywhere
Sigh
Bruh it’s the same 7 people in this channel and all 7 of us have told you to go to #trading_sv
Except getting killed because noone wants one 
that channel takes 10 mins to be able to chat once
jus ignore it yall
Yeah
no need to fuel
who has a shiny sewaddle
no
Thanks
🔇 Muted rexthepowerful_48802 for 1 hour
ty seal
yay
well an hour is longer than 10 minutes
hahaah
LMFAOO
tru
maybe he can use that hour to hunt for a shiny sewaddle himself
frfr
Mr seal
How it go
it so ez these days
im sleepy

Uh oh
Take nap
Tbf shiny sewaddle hard to spot
Oh ayo p2 in top cut
Truu
also hes fine to ask for a trade too, mans was jus not listening that this wasnt the place
Yeah
i dreaded this day
now im gna see this team everywhere
Bro this team was in Liverpool essentially
yea but it technically didnt day 2
We were 1 win away from seeing Sand in Top Cut

i wouldve loved that actually
tragic I love sand
has fiona played yet? the one with the suicune
She's out
Still was a strong team that actually showed up afterwards
@stone tide finished 16th
Nah
He lost due to resistance
oh alr
nah for sure but top 8 team is a different beast, it validates it for so many ppl that wouldnt of otherwise played it
man :C
idk maybe im overblowing it, not like most ppl r gna b alex gomez or eric rios lvl w/ it
Lmao
There isn't a Wolfe clone this time I hope?
Fuckin hope not
Right but the Gouging Fire usage 
what is hendoing
The gholdengo is so bulky the hell
boulder, wake and leaves in the corner like 
What would you say is a build that is fun to use and good in battle
Damn I dont know my calcs at all
Thundurus: Eterrain, Twavw, eerie impulse, voltswitch
Muk, Smearlge
jokes, don't do it

What would be a nature tho for an entry starting Glimmora
Oof needed that protect last turn
Lmao
The meme where the kid is crying in the pool and the skeleton at the bottom
Leaves ain't even the skeleton
Can Averi even do anything with just a P2 and Amoongus
Lol no P2 before I finished typing
oh yeah i forgot leaves was a pokemon lol
does leaves even do anything that interesting
Psyblade damage *1.5 on E terrain
Toler won right?
So base 135
2-0
Yeah
No way Averi was getting that sadly
Ping me for next match plz
Is it 20minute delay?
I thought that was a phone case lol
switch case
cybertron featured a team w/ it recently. its ok but def not something thats gna b super consistent
wens euic
1st weekend April
ahh ok
I'm going either as spectator or competing
nice, i heard internats are a blast
Liverpool was my 1st event and loved it
this most recent one?
Yeah
dope
Went 3-6 for my first OTS event
Yh it'll keep getting bigger if they stay at Liverpool
seems like a consistent one they have
Though maybe London next year, if Nat goes to EU continent
Yeah
Wolfes team won biggest American and biggest European regional
Yeah
Or there's those who recreate spreads
Fought one who did that and they whooped my ass
now he can make 2 videos
how i won the biggest NA regional
how my team won the biggest european regional
It'll be coming
He's apparently not attending anything until EUIC
Yeah
He said he'd have the vid in April
Tell that to Riley Factura
did u play me

I want to go, draw him in Rd 1, then get my ass whooped
On cart
yea im assuming ur talkin gc
Nah a Limitless tour
ahh gotcha
That I went like 0-3 in before dropping
I've said it 1000 times and I'll say it again
I wanna go up against Wolfe
ive faced cybertron a cppl times on cart but not wolfey
I learned how to put myself closer to the edge
Does that count?

🤷♂️
ive also played toler (winner interview) on cart recently
super good game he was using an earlier iteration of the psyspam team they were all using last tour
How can you tell? Is it their OT?
I think Tofu beat Pengy yesterday?
yea and super high on ladder
and like i said playing an earlier iteration of the team they wound up bringing to their last tour. psyspam crown
that confirmed it wen i saw wat team he had brought
thats wat he said
im glad someones doing well in the gc, this one has been a rollercoaster for me
Wish I'd bought that Substitute plush last week now 
i went 4-0 and it went mostly downhill from there lmao positive win record but jus not getting the win streaks i need to get the higher elo i was aiming for
Yeah
I was gonna play it and then maybe make a post for blog about it but then I was like "man this shit kinda eh"
better for ur mental anyway
its been abysmal, i havent played my best but ive scratched my head so many times at my opponents plays
Tbf
I've been very lazy with VGC lately
I need to get back at it
happens dude
i kinda forced it this weekend and saw my play not as optimal as a result
Like I literally have a team I need to test
And make for content
better u went that route if ur not feeling it
Thing is for that Gouging team
I cannot find a 6th that actually feels good
Then again the 5 of Mane/Gouging/Ursh/Rilla/Kingambit feel so good so it's not as bad
I dropped everything pokemon for a few days since day 1 of gc

i mean yea def need to test to see wat the 6th flex slot should be
see wat matchups need patching
Oh I'm done with that team
Honestly the best is probably Chien Pao, which is what I used
But honestly now it's just like "man I fucked that play"
i was jus gna say take lukas 6th haha
Ooh Tang got 2-0d
yea
Chien Pao is literally there for Sacred Sword to not lose to defense buff shit
i mean it enables ur partners pretty well
plus howl gouging w/ chien pao can be super oppressive
Oh no Tang
Good hopefully that means Harc go bye bye
How tf he keep making it to top 8
Fraudulent charges
it won 6 regionals, it beat the fradulent charges ages ago
you guys think hydrapple is strong? i've been playing with an av giga drain-earth power-fickle beam-poison tera blast set
no
Next match starting soon
too much that threatens it
Yeah but sometimes SoR just negates the bulkiness of the team
nd it doesnt do enough
@bold geode @bold geode @bold geode 
well yea but thats the point of any ruin mon, it can be double edged
If you absolutely wanna use it, I recommend yawn set
Ok ok mom I'm up damn
i'd probably just use amoonguss at that rate huh
Fuck
Entei is back
Fair
Assault vest amoongus when
That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard
We want a Kyle win
Wdymmm clear smog/sludge bonb/pollenpuff/protect 
Assault Vest Regice

I want you to think about what AV does
Oh not the switch I was expecting
Wait you right
I always beat it's ass
lmao
Good turn for the livinghouse goat
ive played egrimm b4. dude was so pretentious
i won the set and he was like i shouldve won. like ok? but u didnt (this was swsh era)
Just go
NUH UH
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Cannot be selected under Heal Block.
amoongus holding an invisible bright powder
real
Enrique actually being smiled upon by rngesus
damn ggs

torn in the back proving clutch
what a nice clutch with those crits and all
yea
damn what happened 2 mons down already
As much as I want it to connect cmon kyle we cant be relying on winning 81% of the time 

good set
whew a crit there and its over
this is true
Next match starting soon
Im rooting luca
Tornado gholdengo cringe
Oh Luca locks in immediately

Imagine Eweb miss 
HE LIIIIIVES

Who winning
Toler takes r1
Toler 1-0
Damn
Luca hung on for a turn extra with the 1hp Bolt
I think bolt needed to die there last turn actually
That live mightve been detrimental
Would Lando not have died anyway to Wellspring if it had
Volatile turn 1 damn
damn bye bolt
Hmm idk, maybe doomged
THE CRIT
I might actually do something with the extra Gouging and Raging I've got this week
Been sat in a box for a bit now

wtf no tera?
Luca made a read but was looking at the wrong book
GG Toler

damn what a sweep
Game 2 took less time than me making a coffee
I fuckin blinked bro what happened
Toler just went full aggression
Damn son
And Luca must have been asleep
draco meteor to bolt, crit cudgel to flutter
Bruh went to cleep
Oh damn yeah that crit didnt matter
76+ Atk Tera-Water Ogerpon-Wellspring Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 162-192 (103.1 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

damn ogerpon too good ig
Another Mon to not bring back to Gen 10 along with Paradox
Have to include all to remove Flutter
idek how they will add tera abilities to oger next gen
Next region's pseudo legendary is a physical poison type 
Hidden ability levitate
Steel, Poison 
Aaron? That you?
steel fairy pseudo with min max stats when
The ghost of twave past
it wasd a damn garydos too
and amoongus
the longest game ive played
full of paras and flinches
Lmao wtf
it happens
garchoMp vs cress????
vgc12 is 5 yeah
Whoever came up with this 3d line graph was not cooking
That's so hard to read
^
Toler Webb save me
Oh exciting leads
Looks like I returnee just in time for top 4
AYO
Wild turn 2 for james
Dominant showing so far
Oh interesting
Niiice
Am I crazy or is suckerpunch never the sauce
Entei fakeout 


You're crazy lol.
Enrique taking the whole game back
no way entei is so back
Espeed dodges it, protect dodges it, switch dodges it; you only die if they double and if they do double you take the entei
actually nevermind
entei is so not back
this match swinging like a pendulum oof
I mean ESpeed cleans a lot of things up before they move anyway, essentially dodging.
Protect dodges everything.
Switches into resists are effective dodges.
The crit
Nah I mean as opposed to kowtow. Peotect was a bad example, but everythinf else kowtow is the play I think?
sucker punch pressure is scary
A lot of my GC games were decided by Sucker Punch pins.
Even into resists.
There's a reason it gets run a lot - many things can't deal with it.

I should clarify
I mean spexifically James play to suckerpunch infront of entei and ogrepon
Yeah there you Kowtow.
my craziness abates
Did James win yet?
shaky 2-0
Toler Webb vs James Evans
Oof
I was speaking to more it looked like a general "sucker punch is never the sauce"
But talking about it in specific circumstances is different. There are always optimal plays.

Sucker Punch in front of priority and redirection in general just seems bad.
lets go finals next
For a second that Scorbunny looked like Dr Light 
Noooooo Wolfe made a Gzapdos team 
Now people are going to be prepared for my not-so secret sauce
@polar canyon 2 minutes to finals
This one?
Not sure.
😭
throat spray dengo lmao
Sash incin
Huge taunt
Should’ve terad to live the ep
Or would that have even mattered
Even a 33% protect wouldve been better
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 108 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Water Gholdengo: 130-153 (73.8 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Probably not unfortunately
interesting turn
Nice
No Toler cheated
That Incin showed Dark Tera 
Look at the little stream thing
It's STILL fuckin wrong
Bleakwind 
Yeah cuz of the fucking mess up with Urshifu on Toler's team
So blatant they ain't even try to fix it
damn
You live by the 64% you die by the 4%
Gg
damn the second incin
HUGE
huge
Daamn
Butterbane 
Leaving butterbane alone is bold
Pays off 
Dark tera mattered jk bolt doesnt have protect

god
EVERYTHING IS LIVING
the evs are eving
Daaaaamn
Toler got it
GG
Gg toler
good set
Frfr
throat spray dengo new standard
Do we have day 2 usage chart?
Ty 
Yup
Clangorus soul p2 tinglu top 8 finish damn
She’s finally been topped
Huge harc
I think it was an IDBP set actually

Imagine watching live when you can watch after and skip to the good parts
I like the unseen fist wicked blow incineroar
Very interesting set for sure
@karmic temple lmao Seal was so much nicer than I would have been
“I wanna speak to a staff member” I hope you speak to a two-by-four very quickly
“10 minutes is a long time to post I’m not doing that”
I want bleakwind to be 90 bp 90 acc so bad
Lmao
Tofu comes in with the wood
Tofu did you see the big ol fuck up they did in finals?
Good ol Wicked Blow Incineroar
Ogerpon topped flutter in usage POGGERS
POG
NOW DRAGO HATES OGERPON
Just imagine
Flutter is dethroned as top used Mon
Next day Drago's like: "man I really love Flutter as a Mon, it's just really great"
Ayy just broke 1300 on Showdown for the first time
the final product
No I like ogerpon
It has the bulky attacker kinda thing that I like a lot
gzgz
Thank you. I ended up settling on this team. Still need to figure out how I'm going to counter In Indeedee-F. Could tera dark Weavile and use knock off, but that feels like a waste. https://pokepast.es/89018cf4449b0b95
striferealists has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
oh 222 doz-
Ayyy just hit 1400 now
Could do ice spinner over outrage. Or earthquake. (Also consider tantrum > EQ)
Why tantrum over eq? Guessing because I can hit my own mons, but I could always have them use protect. Though I'd rather them do something productive and it's not like nite is choice banded
Yeah, mainly for tge self hit
Plus in doubles EQ is effectively 80BP but it hits both mons
EQ is reduced by grassy terrain as well
By running EQ youre almost guaranteed to put yourself in a position where you have to hit yourself or suboptimally protect
I did see it last regional though, so not like it's unusable
But should be a deliberate choice/calculation me thinkd
from UB Slow, the online ladder king
There was a lycanroc ttar team today?
Why did he run lycanroc over excadrill is my question
STAB rock slide and the endeavor I’m guessing
Series 2 nostalgia
Ig yea
also it’s just comfort for him, he’s run that team for over a year now
Oh wow, that’s crazy
5 straight top 16’s with it hahaha
Running bolt for a year is crazy
I heard about some suicune team that did pretty well
who has shiny sewaddle ill give almost any shiny u want 🥺
Wrong chat
Yea wrong chat
Nuh uh
Slowmode
besides, i've been looking for a shiny sewaddle all day
Doesn't mean you can use the wrong chat knowingly
why not? its js discord
And there's rules
where would i chat then
Bro please stop asking outside the trade channels. Those channels are the best chance you have of finding someone who has one and is willing to trade. It's also annoying
No one who uses this chat is coming here looking for trades
Or any chats that aren't trade chats for that matter
ok but where should i trade?
The trade chats???
THEY DONT WORK
Nuh uh
I've explained to you how those chats work and where you should do the trading
If no one responds then they just don't wanna trade with you
That's like not true
im not lying they dont work
Ye Fiona's I think. Do you want me to see if I can find it?
it js shakes my screen and doesnt send anything
You're not muted, so they should. You do not talk in trade channels, they are for adverts. You can make a post in the #1112832566261731328 and talk there if you want to talk in real time and not via someone's DMs
mk thanks
Yea plz
https://www.youtube.com/live/sw3Pmfgt1rE?si=LbwX1bLuH0_JlX-z&t=26659
Lots of people were talking about it, pretty interesting set all around. Rngesus was had a sense of humor about it
Tune in to catch Day 1 of all of the VG competition taking place at the 2024 Pokémon Knoxville Regional Championships!Event Registration, Pairings, and Gener...
Oh I think that timestamp.is the end of round 1?
...close enough 
Whats a good EV spread for a bulky archaludon?
was thinking of running Draco meteor, Electro Shot, Flash Cannon, and Body press
Ability obviosly being stamina
Alr, thx
Mann
Bleakwind moment
Hi I want to get an shiny Pokemon with the chosen one mark. Would it be considered illegitimate if I travel back to my bday last year on my switch calendar?
Date skipping is normal especially when you want a specific date
Ok so they aren’t gonna say it’s “hacked” or “generated”?
I have heard their judgments are very questionable
You're not tampering with anything. You're just changing the date on your switch to catch a shiny on your birthdate
if it has your ot and TID i think it should be okay…
vgc stream? 👀
Ayo
Comp Khuja?
No, Khuja is just running around the server lol
gotta put out them fires lol

How long do yall spend on a new team? Like just in the teambuilder, not even testing matches?
1-2 hours max
Oh in the teambuilder
Rarely an hour, but average 30 minutes I'd say
Mainly cuz I think or I'm just like yeah
Then on Showdown, I've literally run ladder for like 3-4 hours at least before
Days
like…
30mins…

BNro i just saw this on twitter
what are these chien variants lol
i just saw one with sitrus
Question, my friend gave me a shiny wooper and I wanna build him for competitive, what would be a good moveset and nature for it?
Google didn't really help much
wababa
wait whats your next regional @next stump
your days are numbered(youre signing my bag next)
either orlando (maybe) or indianapolis (definitely)
depends if I really want to try for the travel award
okaoka ill be at both
Wanna see Kanye walking an alligator
(An actual picture I saw on TikTok)
Testing teams on showdown vs ladder on switch, thoughts ?
if ur testing teams id say showdown
u can make a lot of stuff before finalizing
and faster there
so really theres no added benefit on team building, testing etc on running it on switch other than actually making the final team you ran on showdown to take to an event for example.
Starting to test, so far so good
Nice
Yeah I'm putting up results
Only means ladder went to shit tbh
I've seen Hitmontop quite a bit tonight? Tf
People are crazy
Yeah
I saw Clear Amulet Urshifu
That's probably not that crazy 
Well I mean
It's definitely SOMETHING lol
1500s minimum
If Drago can do it with Hydrapple
I'm actually down
Hell I just got literally a free dub so
1340 now
I'm sorry I'm making B's right now Papa
I swear I was close
But also
The fucking shit you fight on ladder
What has this ladder become
Weird thing about it
Meta went so haywire that people just tryna collect the scraps
Actually hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
What if I did with this team.......
This team would be the oddest one I wouldn't expect to
i mean i hit 1500 with chand so 
lol
Anak kesayangku ketiga
@tired atlas is my favourite child atm

I was never the favorite
I'm too old to be Tofu's child 
Hush my child
I'm only quieter right now because I'm eating wraps 
I can't - my daughter is sick today so I gave her my spot in my bed 
Ok
GXE dropped to 68.7% but I'm now at 1335 and I'm stopping for now
I just lost close games to stuff you don't see too often
Tera Electric Arch and then Iron Leaves shit (although the Iron Leaves didn't do anything)
Team oddly enough ain't horrible
I think it's just like
Fighting through the ladder
Getting thru the trenches
emotional damage
Also Incineroar
My lovely
I have finally figured out how to somewhat use this fucker
So you bet your ass imma abuse it
Youve awoken to the assault vest enlightenment?

Fuck no
I'm actually using Goggles shit

This team is one of the teams of all time
Youre in too deep, escape
I'm digging the hole brother
Ain't no coming back
Ok I lied
I got back on and another insta forfeit
Like why are we getting all these
If you just gonna insta forfeit, then why you playing?
I need to go to sleep tonight with a type chart taped to my face
I keep forgetting Steel doesn't resist Electric
Anyways I'm actually done now
thoughts ? https://pokepast.es/9f34793b68f2230c
@autumn kelp choice specs protect
and why does pelipper got manual rain > water stab
if ur mystic water shifu use protect/detect
if ur scarfed, then go ahead for u turn pivoy
The reason for Mystic Water or Choice Scarf?
Mystic Water doesn't lock you into a move and allows for Protects, unlike Scarf. And without Scarf you won't outspeed as many things.
the explanation above from
With Scarf you shouldn't be using Protects, mostly, and the U-turn allows you to get off the field usually unscathed.
While still chipping for some damage
Won 2 ranked games today
Feelsgood man. Pokeball Tier Rank 5 now haha.
Two teams I lost against before - minimize muk and contrary enamorus
I was able to get my redemption battles today. xD
Maybe I should aim for Great ball tier this season.
goals
Calm mind on flutter mane is amazing.
Why does RocK9 run Tera fairy besides Tera Blast?
Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Poison, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Bug, Dark, Fighting, Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel
Duraludon Eviolite good or nah?
With eviolite it has 5 less sp def than archaludon so I'd say nah
No electro shot if rain archaludon is your thing
no Stamina either
Yep
@strange fjord single and it's a paldean wooper
has kingambit been powercrept? i feel like i don't see it as much on showdown recently
hey tofu is dnite a suitable substitute for entei?
Want to temporarily use dnite for abit
gonna work on farming the normal shards for entei but want I test the team before im done with that
also outrage is funny
What team is it anyways.
monke's wake team
but with my spreads which I need to fix
lemme see if I have a paste for it
bro av chien actually is genius
Whimsicott could benefit from either runnign Encore or Fake Tears or even Protect, Energy Ball feels eh
I mean, I guess you can hit Ogerpon Wellspring post Tera but like, I don't know how often that's going to ever come into play
anyone know the top 3 entei moveset
the regionals one?
Tera Fighting IH?
would have thought Fire to protect from the burn and tank fairy hits or Flying to negate obvious ground attacks
fair enough
ignore tera types i made some mistakes
oh actually tofu its tailwind, sunny day, moonblast, protect now
yea
Morning sir
https://pokepast.es/870e05c7d6cb5ed8 thoughts?
Morning
r u streaming
based
What is your pfp?
Idk who that is
Thought I was eating a match and then Basculegion comes in at the end with last respects and just washes me 😭
Started up competitive again this season but haven’t tried doubles yet, not sure what kind of team to go for
Not bad
of course you wouldn't
GJ!
remember kids slaking sucks LMAO
Ty :]
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to connor91
Wheezing?
In other news, water is wet
good luck
I’m trying to find some anti meta mon for singles, hitting master but not really improving upwards. Think I’ll start doubles today
Most of us here don’t play singles
Water is surrounded/saturated with other water molecules
yeah I’m moving on to doubles today just always start with singles to get back in to the swing of things
just found a broken core that no one knows about
Every source I find says it’s not wet
Fluttermane urshifu incin rilla and hitmontop
How this broken
dude shut up who cares lmao
Oh sorry lemme just ask "most scientists"
I’m not trying to argue just understand
And ignore the sentence after
so im trying to run a chiyu flutter core but im not a fan of running incin or gyara well maybe gyar but how would hitmontop be
Made a team like this except no urshi a while back
I luv wide guard ❤️
but no what should i run with flutter yu
do i go lando t gyar or incin?
or since they're already frail just go full HO
Specs flutter flopper
Alternatively Flutter-Yu-Ogerpon is also a thing
i mean this just pretty much calls for a dozo team doesnt it
But if you don't run TW you run Booster Spe + Speed Control
i see
Btw would after you eruption will work this reg?
rain torn?
With chi yu and flutter???
No, Taunt/Icy Wind also works
i mean that just means you arent clicking rd every game
plus chiyu still does a shit ton with its dark moves
But wouldn’t sun be more practical?
nah because then that pretty much forces the last 2 slots
rain isnt as restrictive as sun imo
What does sun restrict that rain doesn’t?
teams and what mons you can run
Ah ok
You really don't need the weather
yea got it
now its just a matter of what the last 2 are
imma look at some tourneys
Thoughts anyone?
G zapdos?
Honestly on Bolt i'd be willing to forego Protect for Thunderclap
I think gapdos is pretty solid
Like almost necessary
Yeah but isn’t there better?
…
Or maybe it’s the typing u want
I run niche shit that’s my thing. TECHNICALLY YES shifu would be better
Especially since you have anti-prio
i feel like you can just run av bolt over suicune and do most of the same things
Gapdos has been around for a bit now
I really like it’s typing
run ice beam on it
I could be running thunderous kick
for lando
But I think I’d miss kos
I like basculegion
Gapdos is a physical attacker
waiting for it to make a comeback
Heartfhalme I think can just go max max
Also, no protect?
I still see basculegion a bit on some rain teams
I just hit a speed tier and then hp dump (outspeeding lando I)
you'd also be lowering def
Tbf it has not mattered
I don't think the bulk really changes all that much
But yeah, no Protect on Bolt since you have anti-FO with Farigiraf
honestly av full bulk bascu + sylveon on tr may be cooking
I'm like a bit iffy about the overall coverage
I don’t know exactly have other physical attackers to do physical damage
Cuz usually gapdos gets 1 or 2 hits and dies
It feels offensively kinda lacking, and Fari was a slap on cuz of tr
because i remember neil saying now that lando t isnt as popular it made gapdos better
I think it was more under explored tbh
…
Real FWG also works
i need to find my rockpon team
where you just run Boom over Ogerpon
ig
Now idk much about suggestions but would a speed booster energy gouging fire how do any good?
Drago it consistently feels like youu just don't want to
It’s still good
It’s pao, I don’t like running pao with a bulkier team because of it killing physical bulk
Rilla over pon is fine it’s PAO I don’t like as much
But it enables u to hit much harder
I hit plenty hard rn
Fighting/Flying
Defiant
90/125/90/85/90/100
580
Zapdos
Based stats tbh
Oh yeah I forgot to ask, how do regulations that allow restricted mons work?
I’m assuming mythical are out of the question, although I heard that some point in swsh they were allowed?
You get 1 per team
Oh I thought it was 2
That's later down the line
Ah ok, and are mythic allowed?
No
https://pokepast.es/7c9f134b6ccd6f13 there you go
They were only allowed at the end of the lifespan
Ok thanks, I’ve been thinking about get very nice
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
What???
I was just posting the now HO team (yes it feels like a HO team to be because of pao)
Ik you can play pao stuff balance, i just never feel that way while playing with pao
So is it any worth planning a restricted mon team rn or should I wait later down the line? Cause I realised I could technically practice on doubles UBER
anyone have the top 10 mons from knox
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Damn
Will amoongus ever expire?
Nope
Sad
im gonna make a reg e sala type team
Probably when restricted legendary is allowed
Even then who’s gonna stop it?
Amoongus and Incin are like cockroaches after a nuke
Relevant no matter what happens : [
ehh
more like the people that are launching the nuke
and take over the world after
I mean what can the restricted mons do to those 2
i mean restricted mons hit them hard
I just wonder how the meta gonna be when calyrex shadow is allowed again especially when it can use terra now
Incin
I mean you sure it's gonna help it's not like calyrex can just terra fighting and terra blast incin which probably end up in one shot
Been experiencing fighting that thing alot on casual
I'm just gonna remind you Incineroar fought Primal Kyogre/Dmax Kyogre regularly
Forcing the Tera may decide that game u never know
So
I still don’t know how this even happened
Surely kyogre obliterates
Maybe with terra now it can end differenly
Tera has nothing against the unbalanced dmax
GASTRODON COMEBACK 😄
252+ SpA Tera-Fighting Calyrex-Shadow Rider Tera Blast vs. 236 HP / 156+ SpD Incineroar: 152-180 (76 - 90%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
4x weak to grass is yeah
Sheesh
There's a reason Incineroar is the most successful VGC mon ever
Rayquaza
I mean you can always use it on casual for early experience
Sorry but it’s design is awesome
wait how good was shadow rider during swsh
Casuals is such a meh way to play the game
like was it so obviously good
Typing held it back a lot
Btw why isn’t trick room glastrier talked about much?
Fair enough it def an unpleasant experience
oh yeah its gonna be flutter food
Link battle 😭
it won worlds i’m pretty sure
yeah he had snarl/wisp/astral barrage/protect
Psychic/Ghost
As One (Spectrier)
100/85/80/165/100/150
680
Calyrex
Fast and can snowball really hard
Well Ofc it did
Not only powerful offense but it’s not lacking in defence either

Chi yu + shadow caly might go hard
Expecting terra normal gonna be use alot when that happen
yeah but then you need to play around fo
i could see some insane mindgames in restricted
Nah I reckon dark types just become more popular, along with steel
I’m still surprised fusions are viable
Steel already is
Even for restricted
Dragon/Ice
Teravolt
125/170/100/120/90/95
700
Kyurem
Hmm maybe amoongus could be expired after all on restricted format with electric terrain everywhere
Where’s my payment for your therapy. @mighty stump
staff abuse
I already said hello and that you're my friend
Wow, exposure.
U know this is true. But it might raise indeedee/Rilla usage to stop it
You do not need room service (im guessing) on amoonguss
Don’t run grassy terrain on whims
You’d rather fake tears or taunt
maybe not taunt
Why whim over torn???
I see the reasoning behind venoshock but sludge bomb would be better
I don’t see why torn isn’t going over whims
May lack some speed but it’s bulkier and provides rain
Close combat iver drain punch on shifu
Tera grass at least if you’re going defensive Tera
https://pokepast.es/21e536abe45fa758 anyway, pao does its job but I don’t like the weakness overlap with these guys
whims is the fastest prankster user rn-
can easily taunt or encore lock torn without problem-
What was nice about the last team was I wasn’t worried about fluttermane or opposing pao being too rough but now it feels that way
protect?
oh lemme just encore.
oh there’s a torn that’s not holding mental herb-?
taunt.
And it feels like hyper offense+Suicune
So ur doing it because of torn?
I mean it's up to preference really
But in this situation torn can pair with Ursh
why does peli do so much damage lmao
Specs Peli hurts so damn much
Once got demolished by it late game
Please never run specs pelipper
specs peli???
Yeah it’s not that rare
specs peli is wild
I’ve seen it many times though lol
something you would see in low ladder ngl
Am I alone in this
Definitely
Although I’m surprised ppl haven’t seen it. It’s common in singles though
Ofc it’s common in singles
Psychic/Steel
Full Metal Body
137/137/107/113/89/97
680
Just checking so see if it might help for future teams
Just use dusk mane
Psychic/Steel
Prism Armor
97/157/127/113/109/77
680
Necrozma
It’s just better
Psychic/Steel
Prism Armor
97/157/127/113/109/77
680
Necrozma
Yeah that’s tru
bulky guy
Potential tr pair?
This Pokemon receives 3/4 damage from supereffective attacks.
Bulky mf
Fr it’s not going down without a fight
mhm yeah…
also we get sunny day for proto mons
i think whims is a fraud ngl
It is
I think lando I is a fraud
torn miles better
🤝
Which ones the sheer force life orb one?
lmao-
sheer force life orb lando i-
tera flying tera blast hits like a truck yeah
Fraudulent mon
Torn would be low key broken if bleakwind was more accurate
Absolutely
i mean it’s got rain dance but…
meh…
At least it needs weather
i stan whimsy.
ALSO
Whimsy is cuter than torn











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