#competitive_discussion

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willow vault
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It’s the truth

supple ether
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Why draining kiss?

tired sage
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dunno what i was cooking xD

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but.
what’s the point of playing if you’re there to just mash one button and play a stupid straightforward meta…
gotta spice things up and have fun

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it’s a 5mon squad too xD

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 59: Arcanine-Hisui
Types

Fire/Rock

Abilities

Intimidate, Flash Fire, Rock Head (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/80/95/80/90

Total

555

Base Species

Arcanine

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
supple ether
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SPECS ARCANINE??? KEKWCRY

tired sage
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YES I KNOW HARCANINE IS A PHYSICAL ATTACKER

supple ether
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What is happeninnnng

tired sage
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but like

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i wanna have fun

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it’s called having too much fun

willow vault
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You can have fun without being completely insane, I forgot about the specs arcanine 😭

tired sage
willow vault
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Was what?

tired sage
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maybe with regular arcanine specs can work

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but hisui makes it a bit harder to work…
beads spdef drop helps a lot though

willow vault
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No you already showed the specs arcanine yesterday

fallen garden
karmic temple
timber falcon
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After taking many comments into consideration, I decided it’s about time I try let smeargle go, Ofc I’ll still keep the team but ima try new things out. Here’s an idea for a team im tryna make, any thoughts on move sets?

timber falcon
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For a few seconds

tired sage
chrome knot
tired sage
timber falcon
willow vault
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Adding weird Pokémon is fine, it just often makes your goal of sustained winning tougher

timber falcon
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Some ppl wanna have fun and some wanna win

real prairie
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It's not competitive but thought I'd share all the new mons that have been bred in my house this week

timber falcon
real prairie
willow vault
supple ether
timber falcon
supple ether
real prairie
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2 mummies, 6 puppies total

supple ether
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Puppers!

timber falcon
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Where the dad

supple ether
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🏃‍♂️

timber falcon
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😭😭😭😭

real prairie
timber falcon
supple ether
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Inlaws lmao

molten oasis
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It’s time

willow vault
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For what?

mighty stump
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Pog

willow vault
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Ok guess it’s some top player thing, have fun

real prairie
timber falcon
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Any thoughts before I use?

tired sage
timber falcon
real prairie
timber falcon
mighty stump
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Spiky Shield is there

supple ether
mighty stump
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You don't need protect on some of those mons

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Also

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Iron Hands with AV wants initiial investment in SpDef

timber falcon
mighty stump
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Not HP

timber falcon
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Ok

mighty stump
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Iron Hands @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50

EVs: 156 HP / 100 Atk / 252 SpD

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Use this

real prairie
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i was led to believe HP is what you go for instead of one or the other of DEF or SpDEF

mighty stump
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Not in Iron Hands’ case

willow vault
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For Iron Hands no

mighty stump
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Man, I had screenshots of this entire explanation

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There.

willow vault
real prairie
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would explain my inherit weakness to Moonblast Flutter

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its why i run Tera Fairy lol

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normally lets me tank a moonblast and dish out a heavy slam

timber falcon
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Who released the howl gouging fire set?

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I got a feeling

mighty stump
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?

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Wdym

willow vault
mighty stump
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No, people were using it before Brady, he just presented it out

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Willy is the earliest user I know

timber falcon
willow vault
mighty stump
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Cause it only has two real sets

timber falcon
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Normally that means a yt has made a vid about it recently

mighty stump
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Howl Breaking Swipe/DDance CA

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Willy used a Rocky Helmet variant of support

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And Luka is the one that made it popular

timber falcon
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With speed proto

mighty stump
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Thats been the set for a while

timber falcon
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I see, why am I seeing it so much rn

mighty stump
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Since like, the format started

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its just Gouging had low usage until before Charlotte

timber falcon
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What happened in Charlotte?

mighty stump
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It had a good showing on Luka’s core, Top 4

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The core archcetype is Wellspring/Gouging/Kingambit

timber falcon
willow vault
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I guess so

timber falcon
mighty stump
timber falcon
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Are they bad?

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Kinda made them up

supple ether
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131? what

willow vault
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125?

timber falcon
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I don’t even know those numbers myself

supple ether
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EVs only add a stat point for:

  • The first 4 EVs in a stat
  • Every 8EVs after that (capped at 252 EVs in a stat, so net +32 possible points in a given stat)

You have 508 EVs to play around with, so 252/252/4 is a common default, or max/max spread

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So 4 EVs = +1
12 = +2
20= +3

willow vault
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So you should never have an odd number

supple ether
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If you do EV spreads inside showdown, using the sliders, it will make sure you always have a 4+8n multiple

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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Alright y’all

tired sage
molten oasis
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HYDRAPPLE RENTAL IS FINALLY UP AS PROMISED

tired sage
willow vault
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That was what you were all chatting about?

molten oasis
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That’s why I said it’s time

willow vault
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Oh fairs congrats on a rental

molten oasis
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I said at the beginning of the reg I’d make a Hydrapple rental

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lots of testing went into this lol

supple ether
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Pog

dapper crag
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I'm trying to think up of two teams I could maybe use but struggling on the foundation. One side is my beloved Trick Room thought but some of the pokemon I'm considering are going to be a real headache to get and might not even be worth it (Ting-Lu/Ursaluna instantly spring to mind) while the other is more offensive with say Stellar Enamorus which I only just got

supple ether
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Hydrapple yawn+pollen puff support is realll

willow vault
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Mate, I don’t read I can’t remember what you said at the beginning of the reg

molten oasis
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Fair

willow vault
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Big achievement though

molten oasis
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Yea yawn ended up being the best way to get stuff done with it

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It’s a very weird Mon to use

willow vault
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We getting an alolan-ninetales rental?

molten oasis
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Yessir

willow vault
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Heck yeah

molten oasis
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Wouldn’t expect that one for a minute tho I don’t got ideas quite yet

next stump
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but idk how well they co-exist on a team

molten oasis
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ting Lu being back sucks

supple ether
molten oasis
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Maybe that’s a good idea

supple ether
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Next to a voltswitch or uturn

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Could be useful

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Foxy_Hmm idk I just want encore bundle to work lmao

molten oasis
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Yea it could

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Bundle is weird rn

willow vault
molten oasis
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It’s good into a decent chunk of stuff but bolt hurts it a ton

supple ether
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Ice is so strong this fornat too pleadAF freeze dry goes hogwild

dapper crag
molten oasis
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Yea

dapper crag
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Then again that applies to both so... welp

molten oasis
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After GC I’ll start working on an a9 rental

willow vault
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GC?

next stump
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Global Challenge

willow vault
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Oh

mighty stump
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Ting is easier to hunt for 0 spe anyways

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Rather than the whole shebang of Ursa BM

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Its also pretty decently positioned into the meta imo

dapper crag
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Admittedly I'm not looking towards pro teams. Also there's regular Ursaluna but by the sounds of it, is pretty much kicked out by Ting and Bloodmoon

bold geode
real prairie
willow vault
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Oh no

mighty stump
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Regular Ursaluna does have decent payoff once setup but the others are just more linear

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However regular Ursaluna beats out Ting Lu

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and also doesn’t struggle as much against Amoonguss

willow vault
molten oasis
dapper crag
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Hmm... need to look over my older gen 8 pokemon from TR and see if I can't just salvage some of it. I know some of it just won't work but eh...

molten oasis
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Actually Yk what monke

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How about you don’t copy the stuff I do thanks

dapper crag
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Trying to remember why I had a support Grimmsnarl in the TR team. Guess for the screens but that was before the first Sw/Sh DLC

mighty stump
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Grimmsnarl doesn’t always have to run screens either

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But it depends, currently the meta is pretty diverse

molten oasis
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Yea Grimm can do fake out parting shot spirit break+1

bold geode
mighty stump
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Probably less centralised than ever because of the amount of high powered options

molten oasis
bold geode
dapper crag
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Yeah. I'm just going to look through the options and work from there. I am taking a couple of my old gen 8 pokemon who are already battle ready but the rest is open

molten oasis
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Ik lol

dapper crag
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Besides, screens don't work as well thanks to a certain karate pokemon

molten oasis
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Just screwing with you

mighty stump
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Who’s Hydrapple set

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Did you say

molten oasis
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It’s a mix tofu

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I did the evs “technically”, you did the moveset

mighty stump
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cough

molten oasis
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Should do correct grammar before it gets confusing

willow vault
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Oh no, war has been waged the great hydrapple war of 2024. My grandad has flashbacks to the terror that occurred back then.

molten oasis
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I gave you credit in the rental btw

mighty stump
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damn

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its not even in bold all caps

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do you even love me

molten oasis
bold geode
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I mean it ain't bad
Technically I was working on Hydrapple at one point

molten oasis
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Good question

mighty stump
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Monke original team when

molten oasis
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FR

mighty stump
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Where is Infernape team

molten oasis
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True

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If I suffered to do Hydrapple, do it with infernape

dapper crag
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...had a sinking thought but might need to redo PLA... for a second Enamorus for both sides to be covered

willow vault
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I’m going to go back to sketching Pokémon, I don’t have the talent to build a team worth making into a rental

molten oasis
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You need both of them?

dapper crag
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Yes I'm genuinely considering Therian Enamorus

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For TR

molten oasis
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You can change it’s form

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You’d just have to redo evs

dapper crag
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I know but rather not redo ev's

mighty stump
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Cause jf you wanted a fast one

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Flutter is superior

dapper crag
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Yeah...

mighty stump
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it also just has better abilities

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Like Overcoat

molten oasis
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Overcoat is a great ability for a tr sweeper

dapper crag
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Overcoat + abysmal speed in Therian was the reason I had for it

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I'll need to sleep on it and think about it

mighty stump
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Good luck

molten oasis
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You can do it

karmic temple
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Me never catching enamorus in pla bc I hate the crafting and dex system

willow vault
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Fair enough

dapper crag
molten oasis
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I liked legends arceus as whole

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I didn’t have many issues with it

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I liked that it was more interactive

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And I hope we get another legends game soon, that is polished (game freak impossible challenge)

willow vault
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Same but we each have different like and dislikes in games, so I get it

molten oasis
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That’s fair

dapper crag
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I get why others love it but for me, just felt off. Battle system not being ideal either (Also just remembered I need to do that fight again to even have access to them... maybe I might not go for a second Enamorus but who knows

molten oasis
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Lmao

dapper crag
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Speaking of which, do wish Frostbite and Drowsy carried over into the main game. Just not Obstruct. That was just stupid

molten oasis
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I wish they did

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Freeze sucks, at least sleep forces you to wake up

autumn kelp
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Is there any pokemon that you can switch for Urishifu role ?

molten oasis
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Iron boulder is like, the only one

willow vault
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Which Urshifu?

molten oasis
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If you want something that ignores protect

autumn kelp
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the most common one on team comps

real prairie
dapper crag
next stump
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if I play a single bulldoze Farigarif + Weakness policy partner in the GC, I’m retiring LOL

dapper crag
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Remember hearing about that

next stump
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Sleep is banned in Smogon

willow vault
autumn kelp
real prairie
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the whole team in general, removing Urshu and adding Thunderus F'ed the balance of the team

molten oasis
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Mighty Kleave, Sacred Sword, Protect, then whatever at the end

willow vault
real prairie
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Yup

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I can win with the team, but its always a struggle

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no clean sweeps

supple ether
real prairie
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Yeah I know, too late

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as i said i locked it in without testing at 2am like a moron

willow vault
supple ether
willow vault
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Yeah it’s unfortunate for them

real prairie
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Ill still play, but Im no longer hopeful 🤣

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cant go as badly as when i bought flower trick Smeargle + Anger point Krookodile to the blueberry prologue

mighty stump
autumn kelp
next stump
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shenanigans will be crazy

molten oasis
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Lmao not the wp Bloodmoon

mighty stump
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Drago spreading my mon

molten oasis
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He asked about an alternative to shifu

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What else was I supposed to say Meowscarada?

mighty stump
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Yea

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Technically

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Any mon that can learn Feint is an Urshifu altenrative

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Or Phantom Force

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😎

autumn kelp
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reason I ask is I do not have any previous pokemon version to actually get one myself atm

molten oasis
willow vault
molten oasis
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That’s true, pult would be good on a Fari Luna team as a fast option

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Until scarf single strike shifu explodes it

willow vault
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Just don’t explode

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Live the hit

molten oasis
willow vault
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Exactly I don’t see why other people don’t think of that

real prairie
molten oasis
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What?

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Fari is immune to ghost

willow vault
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I can’t tell if they know or not

molten oasis
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I’m confused as well

willow vault
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Anyway what’s an awful Pokemon, I wanna be stupid

molten oasis
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Rhyperior

real prairie
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ignore me, im clearly beyond tired... really should have my switch locked away til i get a full 8 hours

molten oasis
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Lmao, get good sleep

willow vault
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I actually did want to use it but then I found out dusclops lost bulldoze

real prairie
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its this type of thinking that is why i cocked up my team lol

molten oasis
willow vault
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I think you replied to the wrong person

tired sage
willow vault
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It’s big brain time

willow vault
tired sage
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well tbf. brionne was okay for like the first few vgc of sm

willow vault
blazing harbor
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rate my casual team: clodsire, falinks, slither wing, hisuian zoroark, galvantula and reuniclus

tired sage
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that was before intimidate incineroar

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dunno if you remember that far back..:

willow vault
willow vault
tired sage
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okay okay but…
opinions on eviolite hisuian qwilfish rn…
running intim ofc

willow vault
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No

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I won’t let you cook

tired sage
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there’s not many ground type attackers and it works okay for psyspam counters cause you’re immune

willow vault
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I don’t want my house burned down

tired sage
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what is it too “niche and out of meta” for you?

willow vault
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No, it’s because you suggested it

tired sage
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fair enough

willow vault
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I have standards

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I don’t stoop low enough to listen to you

tired sage
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:0
okay now that’s just insulting…

willow vault
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My comfort zone is magmar

real prairie
willow vault
tired sage
willow vault
willow vault
tired sage
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hisui qwilfish isn’t weird…
and with so many psyspam stuff going around i would think it’s a better intim user cause you’re neutral to fighting types too

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also you shed that water shifu weakness too

willow vault
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I mean one of the first teams I ever built was Great Tusk hyperoffence but I didn’t do anything correctly so the team was so bad in comparison to what it could be

tired sage
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and eviolite for more bulk

willow vault
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Damn I got rid of the skill swap cresselia team with Heatran, that was a funny team

willow vault
tired sage
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and while i do spit out stupid ideas, most of the time i do know what im doing hehe

supple ether
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 211: Qwilfish-Hisui
Types

Dark/Poison

Abilities

Poison Point, Swift Swim, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/95/85/55/55/85

Total

440

Base Species

Qwilfish

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
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Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar
Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
supple ether
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Hmmmm decent bulk

willow vault
tired sage
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i know enough to keep me going in a decent elo and make weird sets but of course there’s more to learn.

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i just don’t know too much about EVs and am currently learning about specific bumps and stuff

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as well as IVs

willow vault
willow vault
tired sage
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hehe…
come talk to me once you hit 1500
/j
being 1500 doesn’t mean much to me. it’s the fact that i can use who i like to climb that makes me happy

willow vault
tired sage
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i’m joking hehe…
i don’t really im good at vgc at all.
but most of my climbs are thanks to people being caught off guard by what i use

willow vault
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Oh fair enough, I just don’t play all that often

tired sage
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but taking advantage of that surprise factor even in open team sheets and the fact that-
they have my builds in front of them yet still fall for it never surprises to amaze me

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like-
it says:
tera normal choice banded explosion regieleki-
and they don’t anticipate it

willow vault
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Honestly I still reckon I’d be hit by it knowing it’s coming

tired sage
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i’ve put it in your face what more do i have to do to make it more obvious-

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given, i don’t click explosion right away unless im confident ofc

willow vault
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That’s why I’d get hit by it, I’d double protect turn 1

tired sage
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and i might pull a switch xD
but if i bring regieleki in the back-
it’s pretty much a liability unless i have follow me…
it’s way too frail

supple ether
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Eleki is surprisingly bulky

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Comfortably lives 1-2 hits, more if have screens

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 894: Regieleki
Type

Electric

Abilities

Transistor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/100/50/100/50/200

Total

580

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
willow vault
tired sage
supple ether
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The stats disagree

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But I preach truth

tired sage
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like a fake out will bring you down to 60

willow vault
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80/50/50 is not bulky

tired sage
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cause i’m running max max adamant

supple ether
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I ran bulky screen eleki for the first half of the format, never been ohkod

tired sage
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knowing that i’m not living much

willow vault
tired sage
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i don’t have space for screens (that’s a lie i do but i don’t wanna use them xD)

supple ether
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Wood hammers, dtomping tantrums, no sweat eleki lives

dapper crag
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- [Electric]
Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Flying, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Ground

Type Notes

Electric-types cannot be paralyzed.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
tired sage
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oh it’s neutral grass

supple ether
tired sage
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well what did you run for eleki spreads.

supple ether
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Lemme see if I cant find it

tired sage
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cause if you invest bulk then it’ll def live at least 1 hit comfortably

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but a glass cannon like mine isn’t living anything

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i would tera normal to get rid of my ground weakness and still go down to a tantrum from a firepon without boosts

willow vault
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I don’t think you understand it’s physical defence and special defence are lower than both flutter mane physical defence and physical attack. That is incredibly low

supple ether
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My regi spreads are gone AUwhyy

Maybe I have em in text somewhere

tired sage
willow vault
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You have worse bulk than rampardos

tired sage
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(type in this case is physical/special)

willow vault
supple ether
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Aha, found it

willow vault
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Rampardos a Pokémon that is only good at physical damage and terrible at everything else has better physical and special bulk than eleki

supple ether
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20spatk is to guarabtee ohko urshifu. Everything else I have no idea

tired sage
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max hp

willow vault
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Your running screens on eleki? Not on a Grimm supporting. I’m even more stunned

supple ether
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Wanted to use the bastard arcaninehecc

willow vault
supple ether
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He did his job tho

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Fast enough and strong enough yo always get 1-2 good turns in.

tired sage
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the difference between yours and mine is mine has no bulk investments

supple ether
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Ye I never liked glass cannons

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Plus youre hotting with like base 130offense stats with stab

willow vault
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So you chose a glass canon and just made it mid, when there was a better defensive option right infront of you

supple ether
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Grimm?

willow vault
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Yes

supple ether
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Eh, I honestly dont think I wouldve preferred grimm. Eleki is always threatening damage, especially to torn and urshifu that grimm just cant

willow vault
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Obviously, it’s priority, bulkier helps slow down opposing Pokémon has access to fake out if you want. Of course Grimmsnarl

supple ether
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Plus it can volt switch

molten oasis
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Eleki, is eh

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Grimm and honestly a9 are just better screen setters

tired sage
supple ether
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Wasnt a good pokemon by any means, but I dont thi k grimm was the solution

molten oasis
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I see

tired sage
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but like…
grim and a9 are like the top screen setters

molten oasis
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Id even argue for screens pult being better than eleki lmao

tired sage
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i didn’t know that-

supple ether
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Considered that! But my mons were too weak to flutter, and I needed both screens (I think dpult only gets reflect)

dapper crag
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Dragapult's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Bite, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Dive, Double Hit, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Darts, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Facade, Fly, Giga Impact, Last Resort, Outrage, Phantom Force, Pounce, Psychic Fangs, Quick Attack, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, U-turn

Special Moves

Brine, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Hex, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Infestation, Night Shade, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Baton Pass, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Grudge, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Lock-On, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Dragapult.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
willow vault
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I don’t think I can respect either nova or H again, kidding you both seem cool. I’m going to sleep I can’t deal with this nonsense

supple ether
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Oh it gets both huh_What

tired sage
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o dam

willow vault
tired sage
tired sage
supple ether
willow vault
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Also you have been in the scene longer than I have, everyone does something stupid when they join a competitive scene

charred saddle
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i still do them

tired sage
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okay but that’s only cause i got so many games in.
and i know you can do better than me cause all i do is make teams on showdown xD
i make too many ideas that i forget to go onto cartridge PikaLmao

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and then i find out that the regulation is ending

charred saddle
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literally clicked sucker and e speed in psychic terrain

supple ether
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Holy fudge nuts brother I never learn

willow vault
tired sage
charred saddle
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i hate showdown just because terrain and stuff colours are changed when theres weather and stuff

supple ether
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I also keep prankstering dark mons

charred saddle
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i forgot terrain when that happens

molten oasis
willow vault
molten oasis
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It gets wisp too so if you wanted to you could do a fast screens support

dapper crag
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Dragapult's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Bite, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Dive, Double Hit, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Darts, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Facade, Fly, Giga Impact, Last Resort, Outrage, Phantom Force, Pounce, Psychic Fangs, Quick Attack, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, U-turn

Special Moves

Brine, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Hex, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Infestation, Night Shade, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Baton Pass, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Grudge, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Lock-On, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Dragapult.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1
supple ether
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Why must willo wisp have such dogahh accuracy

tired sage
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okay what everyone is trying to say is,
don’t say you’re bad. sure experience is a thing but you can’t compare with someone who’s had more experience. and we all make mistakes

willow vault
molten oasis
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It used to be worse

tired sage
supple ether
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kek nice

willow vault
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Aaron Cybertron Zheng world semifinals

tired sage
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it was 75% i think…?

supple ether
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Compound eyes will o wisp user when

willow vault
tired sage
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yep

charred saddle
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the infamous cybertron luck

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if its not 100, its 50/50

willow vault
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That set was absurd

supple ether
tired sage
willow vault
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I’m heading to bed I need to stop being distracted by all this chatter

molten oasis
tired sage
tired sage
molten oasis
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Yep

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Cybertron was not happy lol

supple ether
willow vault
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Stop it

molten oasis
willow vault
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Adorable cat though

supple ether
willow vault
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I’m just confused

molten oasis
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Yk

supple ether
charred saddle
molten oasis
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You can just mute your phone

willow vault
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It is

molten oasis
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Then ignore it lmao

supple ether
molten oasis
willow vault
supple ether
molten oasis
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Or when rock slide double misses 3 times in a row (this has happened I was fuming)

supple ether
molten oasis
tired sage
willow vault
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No

cyan smelt
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Just set up rain, then bleakwind never misses

supple ether
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The absolute state of physical rock type moves is just SCGwhy

willow vault
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Ogerpon rock says hi

molten oasis
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They all miss unless you’re rockpon or iron boulder

willow vault
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That’s what I’ll cook with rockpon

tired sage
willow vault
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It’s my favourite of the Ogerpon forms

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Then it’s water

supple ether
tired sage
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i like teal then fire than water…

molten oasis
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I thought you were going to sleep

smoky quail
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Hi. What team should I build for the Double Battle? For the online competitive event which requires Double Format? I've been very busy with my IRL and run single format for Monotype.

mighty stump
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if youre pressed for time

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find one you like from the repository

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and rebuild

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expect tons of gimmicky shit

smoky quail
mighty stump
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Check the pins. A repository is just a team bank. Gimmicky shit I’m referring to is just cheese

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Strats that cheese wins off of you cause its GC CTS

charred saddle
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A muk smeargle EvilRondo

molten oasis
charred saddle
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btw

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does the Galarian birds shiny from swsh comes from the same online comp too?

next stump
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yeah it was the same competition

charred saddle
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and like are they usually announced early or like sudden rewards

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since i dont think ill play a lot of GC but i dont wanna miss out some rewards

next stump
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it's usually announced in advance, we got like trainer backpacks last year or some shit

charred saddle
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ooh

next stump
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i'd imagine if we got shiny legendaries this year, we'd know already

charred saddle
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im sad that sv doesnt get any shiny legendaries KEKWCRY

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anyway, thanks for the help

mighty stump
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go away

charred saddle
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go sway

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go awa

mighty stump
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ill ban u

charred saddle
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yes tofu,

ill go sway and go awa

charred saddle
mighty stump
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allah

boreal mauveBOT
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The Move name you entered doesn't exist please try again

supple ether
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Kek

tired sage
next stump
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I need to see this English OTS

image0.jpg
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rank 5 team

charred saddle
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oh what

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sitrus pao thats very interesting

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AV nite too hahah

mighty stump
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Do you want EVs as well?

next stump
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yes

mighty stump
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Say please Papa Tofu

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loljk

next stump
mighty stump
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Damn

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Just gotta download this update rq

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I guess Tera Electric is for the neutrals

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Im gonna also hard assume

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That's Ice Shard + Swords Dance

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Cause SD Chien-Pao is based

next stump
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my money is on it being tera blast

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and either haze or ice shard

mighty stump
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ok well I got 21 minutes for this update lmao

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Wtf

tired sage
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multiscale av dnite huh…

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it’s not a swords dance pao-
that’s a tera blast pao

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protect tera blast icicle crash and i would assume ice shard

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…

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weird sets xD

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low kick extreme speed iron head stomping tantrum AV multi scale

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HELP IM SO CONFUSED

mighty stump
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Do you have the team?

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Cause the code just got taken down

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Could you remake the EVs in a paste?

tired sage
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no-?
i can read japanese xD

mighty stump
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oh

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@next stump Tough luck, seems like it got taken down

tired sage
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that’s a icicle spear icicle crash tera blast protect chien pao

mighty stump
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Huh

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Icicle SPEAR?

tired sage
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yes

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at least if i’m reading it correctly xD

mighty stump
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I get the Dnite set

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Cause it answers Kingambit/Flutter Mane

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Wish we could get the EVs.

tired sage
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mhm

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i’m being very confused with that pao set

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lemme reread that

brazen bough
next stump
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evil thoughts entering my head of changing my GC team the night before lock in

brazen bough
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i didnt even sign up for gc

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i dont have time to build team

mighty stump
next stump
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LOL

mighty stump
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Btw if I run into Simple Beam Dondozo this GC

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I'm retiring immediately

next stump
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i have never once used dondozo in my entire life

mighty stump
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No questions asked

next stump
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and i will keep it that way

mighty stump
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ok mb

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Beat Up Terrakion + Cobalion + Virizion

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  • Annihilape
next stump
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thereeeee we go

mighty stump
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Bring back Pop Bomb Maushold btw

tulip peak
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Hey everyone I need some team building advice

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I'm trying to make a team similar to what Wolfey used in that one tourny video revolving around weezing's neutralizing gas ability

tired sage
tulip peak
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team buildings not my thing so pls go easy on me

molten oasis
mighty stump
# tulip peak Hey everyone I need some team building advice
  • Please do not use Explosion Regidrago lol, just add Dragon Pulse if you need consistent damage option taht doesn't drop SpA. Nature needs to be changed to Timid/Modest.
  • I recommend using Galar-Weezing due to Urshifu-Single-Strike being present
  • Double Edge over Body Slam, Ice Punch/Knock Off alternative since it's good coverage into Ground-types, especially like Lando-I. Protect over EQ, seeing as you only have one Protect.
  • Iron Crown EVs seem odd/inefficient
  • Indeedee EVs are definitely wasted since it looks to be done at level 100.
  • Incineroar definitely wants bulk, you can look up standard EVs on Pikalytics.
charred saddle
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i think thats the smogon incineroar stuff that people are talking about yesterday KEKWCRY

mighty stump
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What?

tulip peak
tulip peak
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someone I went against suggested the ability shield on it so it works well with the weezing strat

charred saddle
# mighty stump What?

yesterday people were talking about incineroar sets and like how smogon has a sweird 252 252 hp atk adamant incin hahah

mighty stump
# tulip peak I actually had the explosion there as a funny move For the regigigas wouldnt the...
  • No point in going for Paras when you can just go for a KO with Double-Edge.
  • Iron Crown with the Speed Boost can just click Calm Mind first, and you're mainly paired with Indeedee so Flutter Mane cannot click Shadow Ball safely in the first place.
  • If you're not running TR just run Psychic/Protect on Indeedee instead of a random Reflect, since you're not fast enough to get it off in front of things that matter.
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Iron Crown @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 76 HP / 4 Def / 172 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 20 Atk

  • Tachyon Cutter
  • Expanding Force
  • Calm Mind
  • Tera Blast
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General bulk + triggers Booster Spe.

mighty stump
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Like comparing Basketball and Baseball

charred saddle
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ye ye didnt say its good haha. just pointing out that its from smogon

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and i think most indeedees run a more physical defense set?

mighty stump
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Max HP Max Def Bold, + Psychic Seed

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I don't see a need to worry about Spore when Amoonguss never wants to lead into Psyspam

charred saddle
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what abour rocky tho

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since rocky can be quite annoying to some matchups

mighty stump
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You're breaking Sashs since Tachyon Cutter is multi-hit anw

charred saddle
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true but wouldnt that be reliant to crown? the team had also drago in the slot so rocky might help breaking chiens sash

mighty stump
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Whats wrong w that

charred saddle
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hmm

mighty stump
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A lot of teams don't need to depend on Rocky Helmet to win through sashes

charred saddle
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ig seed for knockoffs is also good

mighty stump
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Sure, you can run Sash, but if you have a multi hit mons on it already, migth as well take advantage of that especially since you're Booster Spe + have Helping Hand/CM Support

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172 SpA Iron Crown Helping Hand Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Single Strike: 174-206 (98.8 - 117%) -- approx. 93.8% chance to OHKO

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172 SpA Iron Crown Helping Hand Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Chien-Pao: 328-388 (211.6 - 250.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

charred saddle
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hmmm

tulip peak
silver ravine
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Def stealing their team tho

tulip peak
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people forfeiting on me left and right lol

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only maybe problem im having is against archuladon

mighty stump
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Hypnosis 💀

silver ravine
mighty stump
silver ravine
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I got rolled by a hypnosis team so I thought it'd help me D:

mighty stump
tulip peak
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Honestly love that i saw the stomping tantrum coming

silver ravine
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That weezing is busted

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If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you use Indeedee? Because they had one as well?

autumn kelp
cyan smelt
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Aren't archaludons running tera flying to deal with ground and fighting weakness

silver ravine
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Not sure about others, but I've been using fairy to some to little affect/effect

mighty stump
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Fairy/Grass

little plank
silver ravine
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Yeah I knew then I messed up

little plank
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Debating if I should push for 1600 tonight with exeggutor lol feeling like crap tonight though possibly have strep throat.

mighty stump
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Where are you now?

gentle delta
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To finish script, test for gc, or punish myself by continuing to learn non-tr teams

What to do tonight….

mighty stump
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Well I have like

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Probably two or three blogposts to go about

gentle delta
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my next script is way harder to right because its not a team vid

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so its gonna be a lot more talking in a lot shorter of a video and a LOT more video editing

dull ibex
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vc?

little plank
gentle delta
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I have to care for once

silver ravine
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So I know it's a dumb question, but any tips on building off meta teams? I know it's kinda redundant. It's just if I'm going to lose, I want to lose having fun

knotty mirage
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How much speed Investment for incin to outspeed a quiet no speed Investment raging bolt ?

gentle delta
gentle delta
balmy glen
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anyone got an AV ting lu spread

supple ether
gentle cragBOT
supple ether
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That's solid for the first few team members or the last couple

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The 4th/6th teammate is still something I dont have the sauce for

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But yeah, just because youre not building around the most popular mons doesnt mean you cant beat em (nor does it mean you can ignore them)

dire ibex
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Would rock slide or earthquake for blaziken better it’s other moves r protect s-dance and blaze kick also any items I should be running currently use an air balloon but idk if it’s that good

mighty stump
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Use an established scaffold

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There are many frames as there are cores.

dull ibex
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genuine question not an insult

mighty stump
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And they can carry your off meta picks provided said pick can also add value to certain matchups

silver ravine
dull ibex
mighty stump
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And to reiterate exactly what Prog said

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Learn the metagame

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Cause no matter what team you want to build the matchups you’re facing aren’t going to be different

dull ibex
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vgc is a supremely hard game, you are going into the pvp of a complex rpg

mighty stump
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It’s only difficult if you don’t have the knowledge; the gameplay itself is the easy part

dull ibex
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the thinking is the hard part

mighty stump
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If you have full awareness of sets the logical inference comes naturally

dull ibex
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its not mechanically hard of course

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also im ngl I dont know if you'd have fun with an off meta team

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you aren't going to get weird shit like pikachu and meowth on a team

mighty stump
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Just temper your expectations, and be comfortable with what you’re running

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Teambuilding and playing are also two different skillsets

silver ravine
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With any multi game I never felt comfortable playing the meta. Like I know it still takes skill using meta mons, but using the same team that nearly everyone else uses doesn't intrest me

dull ibex
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You don't have to be

dapper crag
dull ibex
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there alot of variation on meta teams

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and theres alot of viable archetypes rn from what I gather

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(comparative to other seasons ive played)

mighty stump
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Reg F is so diverse even a lot of top players are somewhat lost directionally

dapper crag
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I recently started running utility builds and focusing on stat boosting builds rather than my old style of sniper teams

dull ibex
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huh?

dapper crag
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Im having fun; fun is where its at🙄

mighty stump
dull ibex
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thats alot of terms I can't play pokemon

mighty stump
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Theres like

dull ibex
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oh christ playing for fun again

mighty stump
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7+ archetypes running around atm

dull ibex
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IS THERE?

mighty stump
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Yeah

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Lol

dull ibex
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thats nuts

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the huh? was at that guy's termonology

mighty stump
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And theyre all also volatile

dull ibex
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im not sure what he meant tbh

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Im assuming he went from hyper offense or something to screens set up

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which is based btw

silver ravine
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I think the thing I'm struggling with the most is finding a balance of tailwind and trickroom. Seems like if I go hard one way, my game is ruined if I can't set either up

mighty stump
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We got Snorlax back to top 500 again

dull ibex
mighty stump
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If a team is also too synergistic if one piece fails, all of them can as well

dull ibex
mighty stump
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i.e. the setup

dull ibex
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I might look into a cybertron team

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unless you think I should refine the team I showed you tofu

mighty stump
# dull ibex ayyyy

You cannot imagine the stress I went through piloting Snorlax 3 different times to keep it up there

dull ibex
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I need to fix some stuff if im going to go with that team though

dull ibex
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEaqXtSBP08 I genuinely dont know how useful this team would be a newer player

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but apparently it got some tourney results

mighty stump
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Thats Zhang’s team isn’t it

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Just gotta play it well

dull ibex
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it is zhangs team btw

mighty stump
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Another thing is respect the mons but not the player i.e. all mons can do enough damage to KO something, and if they can KO somethingc they can win

dull ibex
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I know you know but i wanted to double check

mighty stump
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You should have seen the spanish 6

dull ibex
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👀

mighty stump
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p2/Kommo-o/Ting-Lu

dull ibex
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??????????

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is p2 back yet?, dusclops has been good too long

mighty stump
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its a very strong team

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Immediately was on everyones radar

dull ibex
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maybe we are in the right gen that p2 and clops can co-exist?

mighty stump
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Clops os non existent

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Thank you Darkshifu

dull ibex
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ah fair

mighty stump
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40% usage last tour

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No Watershifu to be seen

dull ibex
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is p2 the only setter like gen 8?

mighty stump
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No, P2 ans Clops were common in Gen 8

dull ibex
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oh fr? I remember clops falling off a cliff late gen 8

mighty stump
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But Gen 9 its mainly Farigiraf and the occasional Cress

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and obv

dull ibex
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farig is FUN

mighty stump
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Psyspam stuff

dull ibex
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I want to use farig more

mighty stump
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I hate running it

silver ravine
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I love farig

mighty stump
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It feels clunky as shit

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But its useful

dull ibex
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the priority block is so nice

silver ravine
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What I like is it's not announced unlike psychic terrian. Unless the person knows what Armor Tail does, they won't know that they can't use priority moves. From there you can more often than not set up trick room

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Indeedee still makes me cry tho

dull ibex
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what kind of team are you attempting to run?

silver ravine
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Not sure why, but I've always had a FWG core. As for the kind of team bulky offense

dull ibex
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alot of teams run fwg cores

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uh do you have a paste?

silver ravine
dull ibex
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this team looks almost really solid ngl

silver ravine
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Of all the mons I can't really justify Rilla outside of the FWG core. It feels like Incin is more useful in almost every case

valid wagon
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whats the best eternatus nature?

mighty stump
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Archaludon needs more SpDef, up to 68

valid wagon
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i got a modest one and idk if the nature is even soft resetable or not

mighty stump
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Offensive Boom imo prefers Miracle Seed

dull ibex
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honestly I wish I had an idea of what I want to play

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I would build a team from there

mighty stump
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Toxtricity just looks like budget BM-Ursa

dull ibex
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prim looks a little odd to me, so does tox

mighty stump
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Prim is fine

dull ibex
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fair

mighty stump
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Decent into both Darkshifu/Watershifu

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Blows against Grass-spam

dull ibex
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maybe I go back to trick room

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I care less about losing then I used to

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maybe im in a better headspace to learn tr

mighty stump
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Boy do I have a blogpost for you soon

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dull ibex
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👀

silver ravine
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👀

dull ibex
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do you mind if a send a few twitter posts of rentals im looking at?

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dont want to spam the chat without warning lmao

mighty stump
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Go ahead

silver ravine
# mighty stump Toxtricity just looks like budget BM-Ursa

I'll admit it's partially the inspiration for why I picked it. It ought to be the blue one for special nature, but I cba to change it. I like Toxic because it's stab electric is boosted by it's ability and counts as a sound move for throat spray.

dull ibex
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https://twitter.com/IsAStarter/status/1745350570855354659
https://twitter.com/AshtonCoxGAZ/status/1749257374387376529
https://twitter.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1749662690673352871

NJ11 (@IsAStarter) on X

Forgot to post this earlier but here’s a rental code for the team I used last weekend. I feel like this will probably become outdated pretty quickly so feel free to try it before it falls behind 😅

My only regret is not taking @ka1nee’s advice and putting Willo on Incineroar, it…

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Really crazy schedule today at Charlotte, really felt like I had more to give but was robbed by a 25% roll 😐👍 here is rental since I won’t be using this at Knox

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Jeudy ➡️ Knoxville (@SoulSurVGC) on X

Here is the rental me @JustMrBurns @ZanzibarVgc @Playmaker708 all used at Charlotte! Barely missed on 4/4 making day 2 but it was amazing to work with everyone. Donghum got the group tgt,
Parson cooked with the spreads, and justin’s practice ethic carried in prep.

Paste ⬇️

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so far these 3 look promising

valid wagon
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when is calyrex' stats determined? right as i talk to battle it?

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i wanna get the best one i can

mighty stump
dull ibex
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araqnuid hard tr is wild

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not bad wild but unexpected

mighty stump
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Thats like a bad version of Priority Spam

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The other TW teams are missing the current popular TW version

dull ibex
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the muk team looks gross

mighty stump
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It's on the ladder

dull ibex
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oh thats why this is super outdated my bad

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I did not read the december 28th date lmao

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team to make chalk work again

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im kidding

dull ibex
mighty stump
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Chi-Glimm-Torn

dull ibex
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glimm?

mighty stump
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Glimm

dull ibex
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What does glimm do for the team?

mighty stump
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Glimmora is back in force to delete things with Meteor Beam + punish heavy physical based teams

dull ibex
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based

mighty stump
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Yep

dull ibex
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neat

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im gonna stream vgc I think

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do we know the evs or do I just 252 252 4 lmao

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or use my own spreads 🤔

mighty stump
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You could always check the pins lol

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Repository might have stuff

dull ibex
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no idea how to build glimm

dull ibex
real prairie
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Would someone be kind enough to build me a team that viable competitively but only stipulation is I want to run Ludicolo in the team, don't mind in what way be it bulky support or fast sweeper. Rest of the mons IDGAF anything goes

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i appreciate shoehorning in Ludi will make it less viably competitive and im happy to make that sacrifice

mighty stump
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Just take Archa rain and have a slot open for Ludicolo

real prairie
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whats the default Archa rain team?

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Also @mighty stump do you actually sleep or?

mighty stump
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I do.

real prairie
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Nice, do you do coaching on that too? could do with some pointers

mighty stump
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I only do 1-1 coaching if I get paid but I'm happy to just give you advice in this chat for free.

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Default Archa Rain is like
Pelipper/Archaludon/Urshifu-Rapid-Strike/Amoonguss

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The last 2 are usually things like Lando-I, Baxcalibur

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Wellspring/Rillaboom also tend to make an appearance.

brisk hatch
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Who here considers themselves the most knowledgeable about speed tiers?

real prairie
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nice, thanks @mighty stump, appreciate it

gentle cragBOT
silver ravine
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Thanks again for the help guys

brisk hatch
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@mighty stump do you happen to know what the lowest speed stat that would work on ogerpon water would be. Like a stat would be ok when I'm not in TR which is most of the time.

Currently the stat is 130 at lv50

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I meant I'm IN trick room most of the time

mighty stump
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? You want Ogerpon in TR?

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Why

brisk hatch
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Cause I suck without TR lol

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I'll play a practice match with you u feel like it

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For GC2

mighty stump
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...GC2?

brisk hatch
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Global challenge

mighty stump
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I know what a GC is, what do you mean number 2

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I don't do friendlies, sorry. I don't recommend having Ogerpon be slow enough to be more prevalent in TR

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When your main thresholds that you wanna account for are faster.

real prairie
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run a mon with scary face and stat drop your own Ogre speed if you have to run it

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if you lose trick room you simply switch out

mighty stump
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No? That's just pointless synergy

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Especially surrounding one mon

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That really isn't recommend to be under TR

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With even half of its speed tier still not underspeeding relevant mons

real prairie
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the premise of Ogre in trickroom is a little pointless in itself lol

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neither of us would advise it

brisk hatch
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@mighty stump will u play me 1 game? So u can see my team

mighty stump
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Just send a paste. I'm not playing a friendly just to see a team.

brisk hatch
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I'm an amateur I don't use showdown.. I shiny hunt and build pokemon , then build teams from all the mons I've trained which is A LOT.. prolly 2000 hrs in...lol
Pokemon home quit counting time when I hit 999hr 59min

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@mighty stump come on ur a little curious no? I'm not awful.
I just finish around 15000 on the the ladder at the end of each season

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@mighty stump thanks anyways

gentle cragBOT
silver ravine
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Besides needing another mon thoughts? I might switch out Tauros for Incin, but I like the idea of Tauros as a more durable Incin with some KO power https://pokepast.es/dd9f19c39569129a

brisk hatch
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Wanna friendly match to test?

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I'm working on a team as well

silver ravine
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Almost 5 am and I don't actually have a team built on the cart yet. Still workshopping on Showdown. Otherwise I'd be down

real prairie
silver ravine
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Whoops just realized I have rocky helmet on two mons. Probs take it off Farig and give it life orb. An offensive Farig looks tempting

mighty stump
dull ibex
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I tried 252 252 4 on glimm

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the team is alright, I probably want a better glimm spread

gentle delta
cyan smelt
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A muk and smeargle is so annoying lol

gentle delta
cyan smelt
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Well if I decide to participate I'll just bring clodsire whenever I see them lol

gentle delta
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What does Clod do that? Just having Unaware?

cyan smelt
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Nah haze

gentle delta
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Eh, muk and Smeargle usually have taunt between em

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Haze isn’t really as good an answer as Heavy Slam

cyan smelt
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In tr clod is slower

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I only bring clodsire when I set up tr and I see dozo or muk/smeargle

gentle delta
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Okay but while you haze every turn how are you killing muk

cyan smelt
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Hyper voice farig

gentle delta
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Have fun with that. You’ll be better off using something to guarantee the ohko and move on

cyan smelt
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Kingambit has kowtow

gentle cragBOT
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Reminder for @mighty stump

Reminder from YAGPDB

check rentals; if paste hasn't been updated, remove

gentle delta
cyan smelt
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might be time to add BM ursa to the team then

dull ibex
next stump
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GC rating thresholds from last year

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brazen bough
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From before

next stump
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twitter

brazen bough
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I mean like you have the link?

next stump
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nope I just copied the image

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there is a japanese webpage that makes a blog each month for the top 30 ranked teams

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so his will be on there

dull ibex
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Is glimm anti meta?

molten oasis
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Ehh

dull ibex
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If so this is my first time seriously using anti meta

molten oasis
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Idk about anti meta but it’s good

dull ibex
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Well isnt it on my team to deal with meta mons?

molten oasis
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You can say that about any Mon on your team

brazen bough
brazen bough
dull ibex
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Fair

charred saddle
next stump
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you can earn CP from these challenges if you live in NA or EU

those numbers are the minimum rating you needed last year in order to hit the CP thresholds

charred saddle
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ahh i see

next stump
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they also will filter out all people who are not in a TPCI region, so realistically you need probably 20-50 rating lower than that image to hit those brackets but we can’t know the exact

real prairie
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Its impossible to qualify for worlds from GC alone right?

next stump
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If you live in North America, yes it’s impossible

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even if you won all three (impossibly difficult), you’d be at 480 out of 500CP

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EU only needs 400, so it’s slightly more realistic but still basically impossible

karmic temple
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Tell that to my throat spray no hyper voice farigiraf

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We going to numbah 1 baby

brazen bough
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is today the last day to sign up for gcor is sign up over

dusty gate
brazen bough
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ok

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2-2-2

bold geode
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Different breed I tell you
Wasn't it a Japanese player who used that Eeveelutions team and won?

karmic temple
knotty mirage
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Is there any benefit of using terra bug on thundurus ? because i'm really confused with the team i just fight on ranked

next stump
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not really

mighty stump
knotty mirage
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Oh i guess that just an average team on low tier ladder then

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I mean i'm not complaining it's free win

charred saddle
mighty stump
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Based

polar canyon
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Is it tho

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Bug antennae > tiny turtle

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Main reason why bug is the better tera on heatran is that it's cute

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Second reason is resisting both ground and fighting

tired sage
dusty gate
tired sage
dusty gate
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SChug Fine I'll stay.

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i say that like I don't lurk here all the time

mighty stump
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I'm always watching

tired sage
mighty stump
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bofu

lethal zinc
mighty stump
lethal zinc
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It’s because I waited 18 hours for you.

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15*

chrome knot
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tofu

mighty stump
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What

chrome knot
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stressing

IMG_6481.png
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not rly im feeling confident kinda

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tho i used funds in my bank account to talk game with justin tang bc i needed last last minute prep work

mighty stump
chrome knot
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what

mighty stump
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Why;d you pay Justin Tang when you could have spoken to me for FREEEEEEEEEE

timber falcon
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any thoughts on this team?

brazen bough
willow vault
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I’d give amoongus more evs than just hp and probably drop clear smog for protect but again depends on your needs but other than that it should be a solid starting point

timber falcon
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anyway clear smog is there incase of dozo

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does my team need to worry?

willow vault
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Single strike shifu is really good into dozo, flutter can do good damage with mystical fire if you can force a Tera grass with threats of a spore, so you should be ok, especially if you use Fake out effectively

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Wild charge iron hands is also pretty good into dozo, but be wary of earthquake

karmic temple
willow vault
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Also why are you running moonlight on Bloodmoon

willow vault
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No 188 is fine I think

timber falcon
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Yeah I changed that

karmic temple
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It’s either speed or def then but 4 evs are being wasted somewhere

timber falcon
willow vault
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188 is correct

timber falcon
willow vault
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Use Bloodmoon

timber falcon
karmic temple
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Also you have urshifu so don’t need to worry about dozo buffs

karmic temple
timber falcon
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Tera fairy is possible

timber falcon
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It’s speed is 180 rn

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I thought that’s good for flutter?

karmic temple
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For ev spreads they need to be split into either 3 or 5 stats at level 50 to get max benefit

willow vault
karmic temple
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The flutter in that paste only had 4 split evs so some were being wasted. Don’t know what your new flutter spread is so I can’t say anything more

timber falcon
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Oh yeah I added 4 of those points to sp def rq

karmic temple
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Perfect

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Now nothing gets wasted

willow vault
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They just weren’t using 4 evs

karmic temple
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I don’t do math so I wouldn’t have noticed 🤭

chrome knot
willow vault
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I used showdown to help find the problem

karmic temple
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I’m at work and too lazy to do that 🤭

chrome knot
karmic temple
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But I’ll gladly spend all day on my phone in comp chat

timber falcon
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I’m not tryna make it a flutter counter

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Just tryna make it not get obliterated by a sp atk move