#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Man Wolfe truly won Pokemon

polar canyon
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He's the john pokemon

wise star
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Im getting inspo to play a regional. I think ima try Indianapolis. Maybe…

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tough idol
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2025 Season title Pokemeon VGC Can You Beat Wolfe Tour PikaLmao

mighty stump
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Mr Pokemon

placid thorn
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The guy's a demon

mighty stump
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2nd place should just be "1st place but I lost to Wolfe"

polar canyon
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Someday I wanna try a regional in my country, sucks it's a 4 hour plane trip to the only place regionals happen

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willow vault
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Mr Regional

wise star
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Online tourneys should be more viable too

mighty stump
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Meanwhile: my country

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Banned

tough idol
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I don't doubt that Wolfe may attend EUIC in April

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mighty stump
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To be honest, I don't know if I have it in me to actually compete in a circuit

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🤷‍♂️ Before my time

karmic temple
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“I survive a Wolfe beating and all I got was second place”

brazen bough
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you aint that old

mighty stump
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It's not about age genius, I started playing competitive in Gen 8, restrictions were before then

willow vault
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Oh fair

mighty stump
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So I really wouldn't know

willow vault
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Again why is your country banned?

mighty stump
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I asked around and all I was told we were banned

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Didn't bother asking why

bold geode
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Should

willow vault
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Oh

tough idol
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Now if you want old. I am on the higher end of older player

mighty stump
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What would it change?

willow vault
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Welp Tofu can’t win worlds

mighty stump
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I'm not that good of a player anyways

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mighty stump
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I'd rather be known for building good teams

tough idol
bold geode
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real prairie
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Been dealing with the kids, I miss much?

wise star
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brazen bough
mighty stump
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I'm realistic about where I place on the skill ratings

tough idol
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Gotta sit down tomorrow and finally decide which if 3 teams I wanna use PikaLmao

real prairie
mighty stump
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Power Gem.

wise star
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Meteor isn’t an option? D:

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calm gulch
mighty stump
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I dislike losing my one and only Rock STAB after one turn

real prairie
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I run rocky helmet @wise star

wise star
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A chunky hairy alien creature, then

polar canyon
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68 is crazy

real prairie
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spot on, that and spiky shield good for breaking sash mons

bold geode
polar canyon
brazen bough
bold geode
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Now Tofu how do we beat Wolfes team

polar canyon
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I would love to participate in a day 1

tough idol
wise star
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Don Czech made it with a ninetails and articuno, which was a core I wanted to use; so I have hope

brazen bough
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hearth is the mvp of this tourney

mighty stump
brazen bough
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bold geode
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I'd make Day 2 Elmo

mighty stump
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I'm not talking bad about myself I'm just saying relative on the scale of average to great i'm just good

real prairie
mighty stump
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There are tons of far better players than me

bold geode
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Nah I'd win

willow vault
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If I went to the tournament not only would I go 0-9, I would be kicked out for being so bad after 1 set

brazen bough
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especially when i know myself im a bad player

bold geode
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Look at this shit

mighty stump
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Yeah but there's no such thing as a "bad player" the onle one that's bad at the game is if you refuse to learn

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mighty stump
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Theres only inexperienced players

mighty stump
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and i'd argue being bad at the game is more attitude than skill

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I'd rather deal with a nice, despite incompetent, player than a douche of one

willow vault
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I have no brain I’m physically not able to think and learn

willow vault
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Joking I’ve got better, just very slowly

wise star
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Do y’all game on showdown a lot?

kindred cypress
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Any of y’all in the vgc server?

wise star
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Oh where’s the vgc server? Id like to join

kindred cypress
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mighty stump
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Mostly on showdown.

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I just run a ton of alts.

willow vault
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I don’t play very often, I just troll people who are here with awful teams to melt their brain

kindred cypress
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They’re hosting an online tourney that give championship points

tough idol
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Isn't that the GC coming up

brazen bough
kindred cypress
mighty stump
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You haven't seen how I actively speak to annoyances

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It's pretty disproportionate but it's also very funny

brazen bough
willow vault
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I like funny

brazen bough
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dont beat yourself up

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if i saw people that were clearly inexperienced and dont know what they are talking about arguing when their point is invalid I would be annoyed too

wise star
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That’s awk

tough idol
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There's a difference between being a douche and having no tolerance for BS

bold geode
willow vault
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You sound like the entire university building trying tell me to stop being depressed, it’s chill I play vgc, it’s a part of the ‘experience’

mighty stump
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Aha but you can be both

smoky hawk
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5-0! I beat my tournament demon, Gary Qian

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Notorious TR player

brazen bough
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FLUTTER RAID

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brazen bough
wise star
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Such beauty, such grace

brazen bough
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wait this is gonna be impossible

willow vault
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That seems unfair, we on scarlet get a great Pokémon on violet you get an alright Pokemon

wise star
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Why impossible? 😮

willow vault
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Flutter + Tera fairy will do damage

brazen bough
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tera fairy moon blast is gonna 1 shot

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alot

tough idol
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It will die T1 to Sash Cats and Gholdengo

brazen bough
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actually i think gholdengo is the move

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timber falcon
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Will it now know shadow ball?

brazen bough
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is dont beat yourself up

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you have an entire channel that asks you for advice

tough idol
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It's 5 star, just Gholdengo a Sash aswell, still does T1

mighty stump
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No, I get that

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I'm perfectly fine

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Lol

brazen bough
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ok well dont sell yourself short

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also what country do you live int

willow vault
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Tofu therapy session with a bunch of Pokémon players, huh weird day

mighty stump
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Anyone wanna give a guess what country i'm in

willow vault
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Cheaper than a liscenced therapist, that’s why we get Tofus advice, constant great ideas

mighty stump
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I'll just mention that it's Asian

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mighty stump
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No, close

wise star
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Singapore

willow vault
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Oh atleast it’s in Asia

mighty stump
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Nope, theyre in the circuit

brazen bough
mighty stump
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Too far

wise star
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Taiwán

willow vault
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Burma, or has it changed its name

mighty stump
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I am partly Chinese, but no and no

brazen bough
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Timor-Leste

kindred cypress
wise star
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Malaysia

mighty stump
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No, and close

willow vault
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Kyrgkstan

mighty stump
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Colder

willow vault
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Uzbekistan

wise star
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Indonesia

mighty stump
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Ding ding

wise star
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Eyyy

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Mongolia

brazen bough
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Turkmenistan

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oh

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Pakistan

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I know more stans but I will stop

brazen bough
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i just searched it up

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maybe because they banned official use of pokemon go

willow vault
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Where is the food tofu from?

mighty stump
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China

willow vault
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Makes sense

brazen bough
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this was a thing???

real prairie
brazen bough
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why did sv remove this lol

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# mighty stump China

I remember the days when we made the population addicted to oppium because they didn’t want to trade, Britain was great, we never did anything wrong

mighty stump
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No comment

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brazen bough
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the only motive i have for getting good is just to face other good players

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brazen bough
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i feel so uninspired

tough idol
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Going down a slippery slope with this topic

real prairie
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is Archaldon a viable psyspam counter with Stalwart?

mighty stump
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Eh

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Only if you run Dragon Tail, but might as well run Snarl and use your bulk to your advantage

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mighty stump
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Stamina is overall better since you wanna have Archaludon act as an Urshifu check as well

brazen bough
real prairie
# mighty stump Eh

Steel type good against steel + psychic, couple good dark moves, Stalwart stops follow me redirection

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but its SpD is putting me off

brazen bough
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smeargle in top 6 is huge

willow vault
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Not Archaludon, I don’t like Archaludon, it sucks because it’s competitively viable, I wanted it to be bad, I would have liked it if it was bad

brazen bough
mighty stump
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mighty stump
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Id rather Snarl and also simultaneously slow down TR momentum which is the main thing they want

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And allowing your side slot to still be relatively safe

brazen bough
mighty stump
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This also accounts for any Ursalunas which the opposing team will check

brazen bough
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that seems to be the dominant one

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iron crown is going insane in limitless tours and the vgc winter one

mighty stump
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Snarl anyways, can;'t hit Archa with either STAB.

brazen bough
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also when is the gc

mighty stump
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I've yet to lose to Iron Crown with Archa

brazen bough
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and where do i sign up

willow vault
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Oh nvm

brazen bough
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global challenge

willow vault
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I got there eventually, I was just slow

mighty stump
tough idol
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Lol someone tried cook a Furret

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real prairie
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LOOOL

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Sweeper furret?

real prairie
molten cedar
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Real vgc players never use furret, use sentret instead.

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And resource wasting, ahhhhhhhhh

mighty stump
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Like in the most serious sense

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mighty stump
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Stamina is more use in a wider range of MUs

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and can be a wincon on its own

real prairie
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fair, Stamina Snarl

brazen bough
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i really am interested in rain arch

willow vault
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Ok

tough idol
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Found it

willow vault
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That was fast

brazen bough
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i was top 500 yikes

willow vault
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Outplayed over 100 people

tough idol
real prairie
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they were so confident in Psyspam they said F it and added Furret lol

willow vault
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Nah they built around furret

real prairie
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this is the team I eventually got MB rank with, the 6th mon was a swap out for a few mons at any given time (Urshu, Amoongus, Meowscarada, Weezing)

My biggest weakness was Psyspam Iron Crown thus asking about Arch

tired sage
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arch isnt gonna save you from psyspam however...

tough idol
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Does UTurn trigger Toxic Debris?

tired sage
nocturne holly
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psychic resist too

brazen bough
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is right now an awkward time to just lock in with a team

tired sage
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thats fair though

lofty tartan
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Like if you go with a rain package you enable Sandsear Storm

dapper crag
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hey i recent started competive doubles battle and i could use some opion for my team

lofty tartan
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Criminal lack of protect - heavy-duty boots isn't really good for VGC as there aren't really any hazards to speak of, Gliscor is really bad - Chien-Pao is gonna want protect and Focus Sash, and Sucker Punch over Crunch, and Ice Spinner for terrain clearing

dapper crag
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oh wait wrong team

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sorry

lofty tartan
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Happens xD

dapper crag
real prairie
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there isnt a lack of protect there, there is an absesnse of it lol 🤣

lofty tartan
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"Criminal lack"

dapper crag
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the other team is singles just letting you know

lofty tartan
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Yeah it looked like a singles team lol

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I'm gonna be honest - Decidueye and Iron Valiant really struggle into the format

real prairie
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substitute on Flutter seems unneeded

dapper crag
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how come?

lofty tartan
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So Decidueye in particular is just not very good and has to contend with things like Incineroar, Chi-Yu, the Genies, etc

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Just outclassed, in general.

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Valiant gets rolled by Flutter Mane, typically

dapper crag
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that kinda the reasion i have celadurge cause of it flash fire

lofty tartan
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Ceruledge was better in previous regulations but hasn't seen like any play so far in Regulation F and was on a decline in E already.

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But yeah, fire threats aren't Decidueye's only problem.

wise star
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I was sad to see iron bundle lose traction

dapper crag
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hmm ok

lofty tartan
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Gastrodon is fine - decent into Urshifu but pretty scared of Rillaboom

tough idol
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I'm brainstorming possibly a terrible idea PikaLmao

lofty tartan
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I like G-Moltres and always have, and of course Flutter, but EVs could use work

wise star
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G moltres is majestic

lofty tartan
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Pikalytics is a good general idea for EV spreads that see a lot of use, but they don't tell you what the EVs are for, so you just kind of hail Mary it

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Moltres does well with more bulk to take the hits to trigger Sitrus and Berserk and get spAtk bonuses

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Poison Tera would be a lot better than Fire there.

dapper crag
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so your say i should make G-moltres a bit more bulky?

lofty tartan
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Yeah definitely.

dapper crag
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ok so should i just max one Def or SPD and keep the Speed?

lofty tartan
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Moltres (Moltres-Galar) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Berserk
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 244 HP / 4 Def / 196 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
Air Slash
Fiery Wrath
Nasty Plot
Protect

This is one a friend ran

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You can drop Nasty Plot or Protect for Tailwind if you want it to be a TW setter

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Ultimately it's 90 Speed base, and has to deal with Prankster TW setters

real prairie
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HP is usually better investment for bulk unless they already have naturally high HP, just because there is less risk than Def or SpDef

lofty tartan
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It's 90hp/125spDef/90def

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G Moltres has bulk

dapper crag
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oh ok i give that a shot

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ok so you say that decidueye and valiant are not really practcall so should i swich them with someone eles

lofty tartan
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Gastrodon should probably be physically defensive over specially defensive

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And yeah you're even better off with something like Rillaboom over Decidueye if you want the grass slot

real prairie
lofty tartan
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Ogerpon is a good fit for a grass slot too

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Really easy answers, honestly.

real prairie
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I do really like Ogrepon, however made the mistake of running it alongside Ludicolo in a rain team which didn't make sence as wellspring 😦

lofty tartan
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Why doesn't it make sense?

wise star
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Y’all think prankster sableye would be viable in reg f?

real prairie
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probably better Prankster options that have similar move pools

real prairie
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so made the conclusion it didn't work (or at the very least I couldn't get it to work)

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originally built it for water absorb partnered with Surf Ludi

dapper crag
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ok if i were to go with rillaboom what moves and Ev should i go for?

wise star
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Yah :/ I thought since dark type + twave + fake out + snark was nice

wise star
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For rilla

dapper crag
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AV?

wise star
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Assault vest

dapper crag
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oh

real prairie
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this is Wolfe lol

tough idol
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No EVs lol

wise star
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Jaja yah just use the Wolfe one

dapper crag
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ok

real prairie
dapper crag
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ok so based on the moves would rillaboom a phiyscal sweeper?

wise star
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Hhmm maybe EV so that it for sure lives ogerpon fire ivy attack?

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Can it do that?

dapper crag
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So HP and ATK

wise star
dapper crag
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so has for it EVs what should i forcus it on?

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to live something like ogerpon would Hp work the best?

real prairie
wise star
real prairie
wise star
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Hmm I wonder if that’s worth it

dapper crag
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oh wait i could also save ralbome with celadurge if i was in a tight sisulation

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because of it flash fire

real prairie
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yes sir

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Although i prefer Heatran as a flash fire mon but each to their own on that one

azure ether
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doesn't Hearthflame have Mold Breaker

karmic temple
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It does

real prairie
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ah yeah

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bummer, flash fire means squat

azure ether
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unless you predict it terastallizing

real prairie
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or switch in after the Tera

dapper crag
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I also got gastradon so maybe i could switch with that insted

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also do you guys thing that rillaboom could tank agiants R-ushifu

wise star
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Hhmmm idk the calc on water ushi with rilla AV

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But if you could live that and ogerpon

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Maybe worth putting HP def then attack? On pikalytics investment in special def was common

dapper crag
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hmmm yea

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oh yea someone mention that I should make Gastradon a phisical atk istend of spA

real prairie
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45% chance it gets KO'd with max HP+DEF

wise star
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Not too thrilling

real prairie
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thats muscle band Urshu

tough idol
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Gastro is SpA though isn't it

real prairie
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choice scarf is 6% chance

dapper crag
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that what i thoght too

wise star
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Hhmm not many have choice band, right?

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Do that many have muscle band?

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I think many have mystical water doe?

dapper crag
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I think so

tough idol
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Urshi usually Mystic, Choice Scarf I believe

real prairie
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mystic water its a 98% chance of KO

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btw this is water tera'd Urshu

dapper crag
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oh that right

wise star
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Lol don’t spec for water rushi, then

real prairie
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without Tera, mystic water it wont KO but will come close

wise star
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Just put def for ogerpon

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And if you see urshi, do gastro

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But gastro isn’t really a hard counter for urshi, unfortunately

dapper crag
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hmmm yea

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Ok I think am good with the team am going to make then

real prairie
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those were calcs vs Rilla btw

real prairie
dapper crag
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ok thx

wise star
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Play at least 300 matches 🤓

real prairie
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🤣

dapper crag
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lol ok

real prairie
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when is the next TGC ladder?

brazen bough
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we dont do tcg here

real prairie
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sorry VGC*

brazen bough
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3 months

dapper crag
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um what VGC

real prairie
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its 00:30 here 😭

tough idol
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@real prairie doesn't it tell you in game when current season ends

wise star
tough idol
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@real prairie UK ftw 🙌

real prairie
wise star
real prairie
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but my switch needs charging and my 1 YO is hogging the TV

tough idol
real prairie
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oh god

wise star
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How random

real prairie
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ideas past midnight on showdown are not good ideas lol

wise star
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😂 the best ideas come out of sleep deprivation and shower time

tough idol
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It involves Perish Song level of random

wise star
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Uh oh

real prairie
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it was a 3am idea that made me lock in Scarf flower trick Smeagle and Anger point Krookodile into the Blueberry cup a week before the deadline

wise star
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And smeargle 😂

real prairie
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may as well have been Smeagle, both as useless lol

tough idol
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@real prairie check DMs

bold geode
wise star
bold geode
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Thanks for that

wise star
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I gotchu. I think one more zoom would be reasonable, but I’ll let someone else do it

nocturne holly
bold geode
wise star
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😂😂😂. Amazing

bold geode
wise star
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I do want that as a sticker now

bold geode
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My pookie bear is @forest arrow

nocturne holly
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oh…

bold geode
nocturne holly
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you’re cheating?

bold geode
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I never was
Shut up minor

nocturne holly
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this remix shit is insane

bold geode
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Lmaao

nocturne holly
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reminds me of snap chat

bold geode
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And saved

nocturne holly
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I think archa has a lot more potential than just rain tbh

wise star
smoky hawk
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Top cut was single elim so I took 4th, but still I've never gotten through the swiss rounds undefeated

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I used my own rendition of priority spam, truly straight from my head

wide creek
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Does anyone know of a good comp team/ Pokémon that are good with clodsire

cyan smelt
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bring clodsire against muk/smeargle and donzodo in tr and just haze away all the boosts

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i saw wolfey won another regional

cyan smelt
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lesgooo made it to 1500s in bo1

smoky hawk
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I gotta say, if any of you ever make a priority spam team, you need kingambit

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It did probably 75% of the work today for me

cyan smelt
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Kingambit puts in work

smoky hawk
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I also learned that grassy glide OHKOs water urshifu with sword of ruin active

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Unless it has bulk

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The ones I faced had no bulk

cyan smelt
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That's why I have farigiraf, to stop grassy glide spam

smoky hawk
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My kingambit OHKOd the farigarafs today

cyan smelt
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Are the farigirafs not running bulk either

smoky hawk
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Kowtow cleave always OHKOs non-tera farigaraf if king goes tera dark OR has sword of ruin active

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Every time I made sure to have that on my side

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One game I lead rilla + king and u-turn'd out into chien-pao and king kowtow cleaved farigaraf

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That made it less likely for their farigaraf to go tera fairy... which they didn't

cyan smelt
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i don't think i've come up against chien-pao + gambit yet

mint sable
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Im wanting to get into competitive and ive always liked rain teams. Any reccomendations for mons?

cyan smelt
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pelipper/torn and archaludon is a good starting point

mint sable
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Torn is tornadus right? Should i use the therian or normal version

cyan smelt
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not therian

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oh wait

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yeah, not therian

mint sable
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Ok thank you

strange fjord
mint sable
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Thank you

molten oasis
strange fjord
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also why TR on it? doesn't look like you have anyone that can take advantage of it.

molten oasis
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Water for resisting shifu ig

strange fjord
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why not imprison tr

molten oasis
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Cuz imprison is a wasted slot

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And I’d get much more value out of helping hand, gleam, even protect or nasty plot

strange fjord
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fair

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but why tera water on raging bolt and not something like grass or fairy?

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for the ice moves?

cyan smelt
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prolly anti-lando tech

strange fjord
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i see

molten oasis
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Yea, lando is annoying lol

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Helps for pao too

molten oasis
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Being weak to poison after preventing a ground move coming out and ko’ing feels bad

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Bug was another option but I don’t like bug as a Tera

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And then water also keeps the shifu resist

ember linden
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I’m using bug tera

molten oasis
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I see that on your rental

bold geode
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And now I'm in master ball
Fuck yeah

charred saddle
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its speed booster, and only 4 sp atk investment

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and no shadow ball

molten oasis
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Ig it’s a more supportive fluttermane

charred saddle
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hmm

ember linden
charred saddle
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hmm

ember linden
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I was 244/0/124/36/4/100+ but every flutter was outspeeding me

mighty stump
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@pale kiln Your rental has been removed due to the following reasons:

  • Not having the required rental image in the post.
dull ibex
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Hello

tough idol
tired sage
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:0
that’s amazing considering flutter is frail

mighty stump
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Its because of its frail and low stats

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That any investment in those stats

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= greater % change

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So its really deceptively bulky without much investment at all since it’s already minmaxxed from the getgo

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Its also why if theres a great difference between defensive base stats e.g. Iron Hands HP and SpDef

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You invest in SpDef first in particular with AV cause it’s more efficient

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for less you get mathematically greater SpDef bulk

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This does NOT mean you always invest in defensive stats first

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The main rule of thumb is always HP first

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An investment in HP is an investment in both Def and SpDef

molten oasis
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Bulky flutter being a reality was wild to me initially

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Now it’s, I just find it fucking annoying to deal with at times

plush mesa
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Hey, I made this sun team because I wanna wreak a little bit of havoc online and I was wondering if there were any tweaks I could do to make it better before I start.

https://pokepast.es/3aa136af71ab0e44

tough idol
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Well you can't use in Ranked

polar canyon
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I try to have at least one option to ohko it

real prairie
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my tera fairy iron hands is a bulky monstrosity 🤣 has won me so many games

brazen bough
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just minor adjustments

fallen garden
#

Restricted format? That hasn't been announced, it might not even happen this year (but I assume it will)

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Imo you're better off not worrying about that and enjoying the current format instead

brazen bough
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not if i actually want to win tournaments

fallen garden
#

?? Current tournaments do not use restricteds

brazen bough
#

thats what im worried about

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i want to lock in a core but is it too late especially when next format may or may not be restricted

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and i might have to make a completely new team

fallen garden
#

We do not know what the next format will be, but we have at least 2 months left of the current regulation iirc

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It's not too late to lock in a core for this reg

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Everyone is going to make a new team next format, so maybe focus on a core that will almost certainly remain good

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Mons like Urshifu, Incineroar, Ogerpon, and Flutter Mane will probably stay good.

next stump
#

format shift is May 1

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you have a long time

mighty stump
#

Focus on the now

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And it makes transitions a lot easier

brazen bough
#

k

mighty stump
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Most of the time you’ll also see for the first bit or so people use previous, established regulation teams since theyre more well balanced and less ramshackle compared to new format teams since people are figuring things out

icy bramble
#

Does anyone here actively PVP

bold geode
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We all do buddy

icy bramble
#

how can I train & battle for regionals in May

karmic temple
#

Ladder, Pokémon showdown bo1 and bo3

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Doing online tours

icy bramble
#

what online tours

karmic temple
#

Limitless tours they’ve got some running all the time

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Tommy Tuesdays one of the more popular/well know ones

mighty stump
#

Also probably find a group to discuss and run specific sets with

karmic temple
#

Lmfaoo palworld has a pokemon lmao mod already

mighty stump
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Which would be the main bulk of your pre

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I saw lol

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Ironically

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I think it looks

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A LOT worse

karmic temple
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It does

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The hyper realistic environment with cartoony characters feels awkward and out of place

mighty stump
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When are people going to accept that in this economy of doom/gloom people kinda want something gratifying and fun as an overall experience

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Palworld is fun and thats that

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Boycotting stuff does not work 🤷 Look at Hogwarts Legacy

brazen bough
mighty stump
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The audience values functionally fun and good experiences which and theres a desire for a better Pokemon expefience

brazen bough
#

i heard the game was solid

mighty stump
brazen bough
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that is their flaw and theirs alone to deal with

karmic temple
#

Fun? Gratifying? Me and dark souls would like to have a word with you

brazen bough
#

i wanted to try elden ring

mighty stump
#

And I personally think SV is great as an experience

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because its about the vibe

brazen bough
#

its been amazing

mighty stump
#

Sure

brazen bough
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i did not expect sv to hit this hard

karmic temple
mighty stump
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I dislike anyone dictating how others should live

karmic temple
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Lmfaooo

brazen bough
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sv was the first game that really made me want to play after bw2

mighty stump
#

As long as your way of life does not harm others then you do you

brazen bough
mighty stump
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Everyone should be treated well and have universal rights across the board

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So any social discourse in my eyes just seems like a lot of yapping

karmic temple
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Idk jojo fans kinda push it 🤭

mighty stump
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Gojo fangirls kinda pushing it

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What I saw changed my brain chemistry for the worst

karmic temple
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LMAO

bold geode
karmic temple
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It changed the trajectory of your life

mighty stump
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I don’t wanna talk about it

bold geode
#

Don't even

mighty stump
#

I don’t even think I could

bold geode
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I don't want to either

mighty stump
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Id rather Alolan Muk and Smeargle win a regional

bold geode
#

For once Tofu I agree
Kill it where it stands

brazen bough
mighty stump
#

my taxi driver is coughing and I forgor my mask

karmic temple
#

It’s ok Alolan muk I still believe in you

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Tofu did you see the project snorlax art

bold geode
mighty stump
mighty stump
brazen bough
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imagine if the flutter raid wasnt shiny locked

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wouldnt that be awesome

mighty stump
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is it mightiest mark or sth?

brazen bough
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the new one

mighty stump
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its probablt easier to just iso hunt it

brazen bough
#

wait its 5 star

knotty mirage
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I think it's 5 star raid like the iron tread and great tusk one

tough idol
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The last 5 star Paradox raid wasn't shiny locked but was a fail with the bug

brazen bough
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did it have a mark

knotty mirage
#

Just hope the raid not crashing again like the tusk and tread

mighty stump
#

yea

brazen bough
#

wait

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last wasnt shiny locked and it had a mark?

knotty mirage
#

It not shiny lock and don't have mark

bold geode
knotty mirage
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If you mean the tusk and tread raid

tough idol
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No mark, not shiny locked iirc

brazen bough
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if its not shiny locked we can get easy 5iv 0 atk flutter shiny

bold geode
#

Tofu I'm sorry, I converted to pdf

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Praise Adobe

brazen bough
#

apparently his team isnt as bad as you would expect like he has lines into specific mons and hes been playing this for a min

chrome knot
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is flutter a 5star?

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if sooo that means no shiny lock :D

brazen bough
#

5iv 0 atk shiny flutters arkeknine

chrome knot
#

is quite literally no need for that

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  • would take days to find
karmic temple
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Just give me a shiny flutter

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With my own ot

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That’s all I ask

brazen bough
chrome knot
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gl it took me 64038 day skips for 0-1spe0-1atk shiny indeedee-f

brazen bough
chrome knot
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yeahhhh

brazen bough
#

i got lucky

chrome knot
#

a 1/126,000 per day

brazen bough
#

ill take it

real prairie
#

Is there any difference catching a 5IV 0Atk shiny Flutter to just catching a shiny flutter and hyper training it?

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other than cosmetic

chrome knot
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cosmetic

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you dont even need 0atk lmao

real prairie
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I know, just as an example

chrome knot
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cosmetic and like

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only cosmetic that YOU see lmfao

real prairie
#

fair enough, seems like a LOT of effort for anything that isn't your favourite mon lol

chrome knot
#

yes

brazen bough
#

luckily flutter is my fav

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i have like 6 shiny flutters

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this is just another one to add to my collection

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i got lucky and got a 1atk marked shiny

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just last week

real prairie
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I bred a full odds shiny ludi 5IV in SwSh and that was torture lol

brazen bough
#

nice

real prairie
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its nature was wrong but really didn't care at that point 🤣

chrome knot
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only thing i care abt on my team rn is the lilligant with the battle tree master mark

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h-lilligant GiggleHehe

real prairie
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marks are cool, i like those, just so random though

brazen bough
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oh wait im dumb

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its sun and moon

chrome knot
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moon

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so a petilil ran the gauntlet

brazen bough
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GGS

chrome knot
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love ball shiny petilil with a bunch of sun and moon ribbons BearWiggle

brazen bough
#

i might just rng a shiny tediursa 0 speed and beat red just to get the living legend ursaluna

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but why did pkmn change the shiny from ursaring to ursaluna that drastically

chrome knot
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all that work for a kinda mid mon

brazen bough
knotty mirage
chrome knot
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hisuian lilligant is quite the monster competitively

brazen bough
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dont diss my goat

chrome knot
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…because of lillikoal & trick room (?)

barren egret
#

I was able to hunt a porygon2 with rare mark

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Prob my favorite Mon coming back

brazen bough
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i found a shiny ursaring with a jittery mark

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does speed matter that drastically on ursaluna

knotty mirage
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If you want to play it under trick room yeah

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna
Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

130/140/105/45/80/50

Total

550

Other Formes

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

brazen bough
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actually its surprisingly fast

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im pretty sure i have 13 speed

bold geode
bold geode
chrome knot
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mid bc i said so

bold geode
#

Trump card: NUH UH

#

You know what's real pog though
Gouging Fire

chrome knot
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i like meta rn

#

lillikoal FEASTS

knotty mirage
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Wait lilikoal is still usable in this meta ?

real prairie
#

After you have higher priority than prankster taunt?

karmic temple
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No

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Wait

chrome knot
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no

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after you has 0 priority

karmic temple
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Yeah it’s just based off speed

chrome knot
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which is why instead you lead lilli indeedee

real prairie
#

indeedee follow me eject button with lili protecting?

chrome knot
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no

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hard swap tork sleep powder :3

polar canyon
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I always forget that lando i has more attack than special attack

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Just imagine if eq had a secondary effect

chrome knot
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you use sheer force it wouldnt do anything anyways

brazen bough
#

i need a core to start out with im thinking p2 or something related to balance

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what do you guys think i should do

karmic temple
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P2 is always a fun choice

shell sandal
#

anyone got any suggestions for this team?
https://pokepast.es/0be75c4b3475eee4

things ive noticed:
bad against wide guard
gets destroyed by chi yu
lack of attack options other than torkoal
clefairy needs to be replaced by something that is bulky and can do more damage (im just new to vgc and have no clue what that could be) maybe iron hands or gambit

karmic temple
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So you’re right I would drop clefairy or sinistcha for something that can abuse psychic terrain by using expanding force. Hatterene and armarouge are two great pokemon that are good under trick room, you could even add iron crown for a fast eforce mode

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Could even drop both clef and sini for hat+arma/crown

#

You have like most of the components for a psyspam team

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Then slap rocky helmet onto indeedee give is dazz gleam and fairy Tera

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Registeel and incin can swap items registeel wants iron defense body press

shell sandal
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yo i just realized execcutor is a perfect niche pick 🔥 , its got harvest with torkoals sun + its got expanding force for pyschic terrain + its got respectable overall bulk

tired sage
real prairie
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Do the trade on Pokemon Home, he doesn't need to have the game

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but also this isn't trading channel 😉

broken grove
#

Sorry and thanks for the advice! 🙂

near smelt
#

Hey so I wanted to run these 4 mons:
Gyrados
Raging Bolt
Ogerpon Heat
Tinkaton.
What should my other 2 slots be? Don't really have previous dlc

#

Wanted to test more

barren egret
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You should sub out tinkaton for iron crown

#

Deals with mimikyus amazingly

near smelt
#

~~ But I wanted to use the drift queen ToT~~
But yeah that is true

#

But I know I need the right tools

fallen garden
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Tinkaton works best as a bulky support mon, imo. Fake out and t wave

near smelt
#

Yeah I was going to run it as Impish nature

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With support moves
Debating about the vest

barren egret
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Calm mind tachyon cutter is decent

fallen garden
#

I don't know if Assault Tink has enough good support moves

near smelt
#

Fake out
Knock off

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I'd have to research more

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Feint?

barren egret
#

If your going to do tinka, you should just go full offense, with swords dance, protect, and gigaton hammer, slap a life orb and get evs and your good

fallen garden
#

I feel like offense tink is more work than it's worth

near smelt
#

Im thinking that too

fallen garden
#

Low attack stat, and gigaton hammer is a bit predictable if you rely on it

near smelt
#

I think it serves a role better as support

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But having a BP 160 is always good

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Brb working

fallen garden
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Enough steel resists that I wouldn't rely on Gigaton as my team's big attack

near smelt
#

But please discuss!

fallen garden
#

You could use an urshifu or hands as a fighting type

chrome knot
#

tofutofu

mighty stump
#

The only thing Tinkaton can provide is Fake Out and Feint through Armor Tail

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And Inner Focus

mighty stump
hollow cedar
#

What are good supports for a comp team centered around Meowscarada

chrome knot
#

u stink

mighty stump
#

Tailwind,

brazen bough
mighty stump
#

and any sort of Helping Hand user

#

Nasty Plot.

#

Farigiraf needs to constantly have impactful turns

chrome knot
#

throat spray

mighty stump
#

Also works

brazen bough
#

luckily i have an insanely bulky fari

chrome knot
#

tofu do you believe in me for knox🥺

mighty stump
#

Of course.

#

Why wouldn’t I

chrome knot
#

ionno

brazen bough
chrome knot
#

i bringing the cutest

brazen bough
#

also getting cp at charlotte was pretty tough apparently

#

you needed high res so just going 5-4 wouldnt cut it

chrome knot
#

shes successfully flown under the radar and now ive made new bait leads NayuHappy

#

i excited i just want 1 win tbh

mighty stump
#

I think ive cooked a couple of scary teams and one for GC

chrome knot
#

im using my knox team for gc1

brazen bough
#

or 2-2-2

mighty stump
chrome knot
#

her🥰🥰🥰

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 979: Annihilape
Types

Fighting/Ghost

Abilities

Vital Spirit, Inner Focus, Defiant (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/115/80/50/90/90

Total

535

brazen bough
#

unless you are heal botting

mighty stump
#

Heal Botting, idrc about Farig

#

Farig doesnt do anything to my team

brazen bough
#

i made this in like 5 mins

mighty stump
#

I mean

#

Thats just Wolfe balance

#

So its just about being efficient with your EVs and knowing your MUs

#

I thibk BM is better by virtue of spread damage

brazen bough
#

i was actually thinking about slotting on orthworm to wall out bm

#

for something to run next to eq luna

mighty stump
#

You have paper SpDef, you’re still gonna get chunked

brazen bough
#

I saw it on a japanese stream wanting to slot it

mighty stump
#

252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Helping Hand Blood Moon vs. 244 HP / 228+ SpD Orthworm: 185-218 (105.1 - 123.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

#

Not Very Effective btw

brazen bough
#

😂

brazen bough
#

do you have any other recommendations

mighty stump
#

Thats the thing though

#

You can’t “counter” balance

brazen bough
#

you can't?

#

what if i ran p2 over bm

mighty stump
#

Its just good mons with enough modes that encompass essentially most matchups that are relevant

#

The metagame always settles towards balance

brazen bough
#

i really dislike the special bulk on bm i kinda want to avoid

#

do you think p2 works in its place

mighty stump
#

No

#

Works way differently

brazen bough
#

k

brazen bough
#

or bm is a must

#

if bm is a must ill make it work ig

dull ibex
#

vc?

mighty stump
#

sure iab

dull ibex
#

lmk

shrewd scarab
#

Bing bong

mental glen
#

Alright got a team please give me some advice because I would like the none legends to survive just a little longer then they are rn:
Palafin: Jet punch Drain Punch Ice punch Flip Turn choice Band and water tera
H Decidueye: Triple Arrows Leaf Blade Shadow Claw Tera Blast Muscle Band Rock Tera
Pikachu: Thunderbolt Volt switch Protect Surf Light Ball water Tera
Ogerpon: Ivy Cudgel Zen Headbutt Horn Leach Protect Hearthflame mask
Terapagos: Tera starstorm Dazzling Gleam Earth Power Tri attack Expert Belt
Zacian: Iron Head Play rough Crunch Swords Dance Rusted Sword Steller Tera
Btw I'm only using this team for Npc battles or to battles friends and family

merry tartan
#

So, I'm basically making a team based on the character, Wally, from ORAS. Other than Delcatty and Roserade (which are not in Scarlet and Violet), I chose his other 6 Pokemon: Gallade (his ace), Garchomp, Talonflame, Azumarill, Altaria, and Magnezone.

mental glen
strange fjord
mental glen
little plank
#

Type in Google pikalyics gives you most used moves items abilities and evs

mental glen
#

Thanks

clever chasm
#

Hey can someone answer this EV question for me?

#

If i max out a Pokémon’s EVs before i get to level 100 on that Mon.

#

Does it affect my EVs?

little plank
#

No

#

You still have 510 evs to spend regardless of level

clever chasm
#

So once they are all spent they can’t be altered once i start batting again right?

karmic temple
#

Correct unless you use specific berrys or a clear mochi

little plank
#

Once they're spent the only way to reduce them is through berry's. Etc

clever chasm
#

Got it!

little plank
#

Just pushed top 500 on ranked with my perish trap team lol

#

It's getting real

clever chasm
#

Would anyone maybe wanna battle to give me some pointers on my team?

clever chasm
polar canyon
#

I thought I'd have to replay the entire game to reset for 0 speed blood moon ursaluna

#

Since I got it on my main save

#

But no apparently both dlcs just open up once you finish the 40 minute tutorial

#

Time to get that ursaluna team

#

And that extra iron boulder and crown to trade for the better exclusives

#

And get that gouging fire team

#

I love that guy

tough idol
polar canyon
wary juniper
#

yo can someone help me make a team for gen 4 ou singles? i got a team but i feel like im missing something

polar canyon
#

Damn

#

That's very specific

#

I don't think any of the regulars here know a lot about gen 4 ou singles

nocturne holly
polar canyon
#

Hell yea I am

wary juniper
nocturne holly
#

why that regulation specifically

tough idol
#

Campfire is Ursa grinding. I'm just collecting

little plank
#

Haven't played a single singles battle since like gen 5 lol

tough idol
#

If I get a low speed Ursa it's a bonus

polar canyon
little plank
#

Why not just home over a level 100? Lol

polar canyon
tough idol
#

@polar canyon transfer something to your main and lvl it

polar canyon
#

Unless you progress the story

tough idol
#

Then transfer back. It will listen

polar canyon
#

Pretty sure this gen they changed it to any pokemon instead of traded not listening

wary juniper
# nocturne holly why that regulation specifically

i got a friend that have a discord server and this discord server and other discord server will have a tournament in different games and they asked me to play pokemon showdown for them becuase the other discord server picked it as game but a guy that picked it, picked gen 4 ou singles and i cant change it because he picked it so i have to play gen 4 ou singles

tough idol
#

As long as your new save catches it

polar canyon
#

Or was it gen 8

little plank
#

Don't need to listen just lob a master ball at it and call it a day

tough idol
#

This is how I've got 9 Ursas, Oger etc already

polar canyon
#

What

tough idol
#

It's a couple of hours to fly through

polar canyon
#

But what do you use those for

tough idol
#

Ursas sitting in a box atm. Ogerpon I've been using a few. Toxic trio sat in box PikaLmao

polar canyon
#

Now get 9 pecharunts

tough idol
#

Have 1, have 3 saves ready for another, there's 4 PikaLmao

polar canyon
#

It's some intense dialogue mashing

nocturne holly
tough idol
mighty stump
#

New quick rental if anyone is interested

#

I just never bothered to post it but it's been up on my twitter for a while but figured I should

nocturne holly
#

w

brazen bough
#

On dnite

mighty stump
#

Outspeed other Dnite so i dont worry about the mirror

#

Plus generally faster than most “slower” mons abd even some bulky Urshifus

karmic temple
#

Babe wake up new tofu rental dropped

karmic temple
#

Why heat crash over flare blitz

brazen bough
#

Also no recoil

mighty stump
#

So not that

#

Gouging Fire just wants to stay on the field as long as possible as Flare Blitz recoil can make that difficult to happen

#

For the key targets like Flutter Mane and Amoonguss, you do enough without having to deal with said Recoil.

brazen bough
mighty stump
#

However, there is arguments for Flare Blitz like having capped BP against heavier targets like Farigiraf

#

But Heat Crash also doesnt miss against Minimise targets/.

#

So its a pro/con thing.

karmic temple
#

Thanks for the explanation

mighty stump
#

Another thing is that if you just boost up with Howl then the differences start evening out sometimes but Gouging Fire isn't meant to be the sweeper anyways

brazen bough
bold geode
#

Yes

brazen bough
#

At least luka’s team

bold geode
#

Yes

#

That support set goes well on balance

tough idol
#

I think I got a 1-3 Spe IV BM this run. Need to send it to my save with Judge lol

tough idol
#

79 Speed at lv70

brazen bough
#

I believe that is 2 iv

#

Actually 3

mighty stump
#

2-3

brazen bough
#

Yeah thats 3

#

I made my torkoal faster than 3

#

To catch it

tough idol
#

I'm just catching whatever is there on the run lol

brazen bough
#

And use showdown to check stats

dull ibex
#

i return

bold geode
#

Depart

dull ibex
bold geode
polar canyon
#

Dynamic duo

next stump
brazen bough
knotty mirage
#

Kinda neat that lando incarnate got more usage now

bold geode
shell sandal
#

guys do you need a sinistcha with 0 speed or does max speed work, just in general r there sets for max speed

next stump
#

max SPE IV is fine

#

especially if you’re using it on a hybrid trick room & fast mode team

shell sandal
#

my team is trick room, its just that I want to use all shinies and its gonna be hard

next stump
#

yeah I’ve seen it on teams that aren’t exclusively trick room

brazen bough
#

how is porygon2 supposed to be played

agile urchin
#

what tera type to y'all use on rillaboom? I use fire but I'm down for better types

next stump
#

if you’re just playing the ladder for fun, don’t worry about your speed IV really

shell sandal
#

not anywhere close to that level yet tho

brazen bough
#

grind limitless

#

and ladder

next stump
#

then you have to choose between optimal teams and shinies hahaha, with Trick Room teams it’s very hard to have both

#

your best bet is breeding but even then it can take like 10-20 hours

shell sandal
#

or im just not running trick room anymore ig

smoky hawk
brazen bough
#

its typing kinda throws it all away though

supple ether
chrome knot
#

@mighty stump tofu tofu loook

#

@next stump will you cheer for me in 2weeks🥺

next stump
#

of course 🙂

smoky hawk
#

Why would someone choose stellar over ghost for chien-pao?

#

Does it work better for certain teams?

next stump
#

it gives you the damage on your moves to get OHKOs that are otherwise 2HKOs

polar canyon
#
  • you don't have to pick either tera dark or tera ice for boosted stab
#

If you can have both

#

It's satisfying to tera stellar sucker punch a metagross

smoky hawk
#

I'll have to figure out what's best

brazen bough
polar canyon
#

I think I'm more fond of stellar for it now

#

Usually protect is enough for fake out matchups

chrome knot
crisp saddle
#

I have a question

#

Does a power items effect transfer to all Pokémon in the party because of exp share

#

Or just the Pokémon holding the item

mighty stump
mighty stump
bold geode
#

I believe in you Emmie
And have fun too

brazen bough
bold geode
#

I wouldn't make changes to his team

#

Man knows how to build, he probably built that for specific reasons

smoky quail
#

Hi. What build do I do for Archaludon as bulky offensive?

agile urchin
#

what tera types do yall use for rillaboom

next stump
#

i think fire and grass are the most common

#

poison is kinda cool as well, I’ve seen that sometimes

agile urchin
mighty stump
brazen bough
#

is this outdated?

mighty stump
#

I don’t see why it would be

brazen bough
karmic temple
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We moved up bois and girls

bold geode
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The order of the channels

brazen bough
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im used to it at the bottom

wise star
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Yoohoo

smoky hawk
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So water weakness isn't so much an issue

agile urchin
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ight

wise star
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How viable you think a snow mode is in competitive right now? Just 1 team in top 30 with it in Charlotte, and i really want to use alolan ninetails

bold geode
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Huh

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I gotta look at the top 128

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Got a link for that?

wise star
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I think this is a good site to look at teams ^

bold geode
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Oh Labmaus

brazen bough
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or mental herb on torn

agile urchin
gentle cragBOT
ember linden
brazen bough
ember linden
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Or anything like super high 12 or a little more is fine

brazen bough
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I didnt make this

ember linden
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I’m not saying you did I’m just suggesting things

brazen bough
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Oh yea

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After charlotte i connected with a lot of the people i faced

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Im gonna play in this himmy turners on wednesday and hopefully do well

wise star
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Anyone here thinking of playing in Indianapolis?

ember linden
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Also fire tera on a rain team is unideal imo, go grass

brazen bough
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Gotcha

ember linden
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Especially when you have pao you just blow things up

brazen bough
next stump
wise star
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Eyy ok. I think ima go, and it’ll be my first competition

brazen bough
ember linden
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I think Urshifu Rapid would be better than Basc

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Slap a scarf on that thing