#competitive_discussion
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He's the john pokemon
Im getting inspo to play a regional. I think ima try Indianapolis. Maybe…
But can he close combat a cresselia and win, at the same worlds?
2025 Season title Pokemeon VGC Can You Beat Wolfe Tour 
Mr Pokemon
Go for it
The guy's a demon
2nd place should just be "1st place but I lost to Wolfe"
Someday I wanna try a regional in my country, sucks it's a 4 hour plane trip to the only place regionals happen
The new Mr Worldwide
That’s painful
Mr Regional
Online tourneys should be more viable too
Woah
I don't doubt that Wolfe may attend EUIC in April
Why is it banned?
To be honest, I don't know if I have it in me to actually compete in a circuit
🤷♂️ Before my time
“I survive a Wolfe beating and all I got was second place”
It's not about age genius, I started playing competitive in Gen 8, restrictions were before then
Oh fair
So I really wouldn't know
Again why is your country banned?
Should
Oh
Now if you want old. I am on the higher end of older player
What would it change?
Welp Tofu can’t win worlds
I'm not that good of a player anyways
Your 197 years old
I'd rather be known for building good teams
Only when I get out of bed on a morning 
Shut
I’m known for being insane, and not in skill
Been dealing with the kids, I miss much?
Gotta represent
Back in my day, beds weren’t invented yet, matter of fact neither was sleep
whatever you say man
I'm realistic about where I place on the skill ratings
Gotta sit down tomorrow and finally decide which if 3 teams I wanna use 
Speaking of, Ancient power or power gem on Glimmora? 😉
Power Gem.
Meteor isn’t an option? D:
I’m a lower ladder gnome, who thinks he has a working brain, what’s a brain?
I dislike losing my one and only Rock STAB after one turn
I run rocky helmet @wise star
Ahh ok ok
A chunky hairy alien creature, then
68 is crazy
spot on, that and spiky shield good for breaking sash mons

Expected but crazy
so you're telling me you dont believe you could make day 2
Now Tofu how do we beat Wolfes team
I would love to participate in a day 1
Make someone who's not Wolfe use it 
Don Czech made it with a ninetails and articuno, which was a core I wanted to use; so I have hope
hearth is the mvp of this tourney
Oh I definitely believe I can make Day 2
then you are good stop talking bad about yourself
So your saying your a good player
I'd make Day 2 
I'm not talking bad about myself I'm just saying relative on the scale of average to great i'm just good
Go with direct counters to all of his mons and beg to the gods you gamble right on your selection and every turn after that lol
There are tons of far better players than me
Nah I'd win
If I went to the tournament not only would I go 0-9, I would be kicked out for being so bad after 1 set
you underrating yourself is talking bad about yourself in my books
especially when i know myself im a bad player
Trevor Roader was a player that went 0-7 before getting 2 Byes
Look at this shit
Yeah but there's no such thing as a "bad player" the onle one that's bad at the game is if you refuse to learn
They would give me byes so they don’t have to see me play 😭
Theres only inexperienced players
Yeah me
and i'd argue being bad at the game is more attitude than skill
I'd rather deal with a nice, despite incompetent, player than a douche of one
I have no brain I’m physically not able to think and learn
Very trur
Joking I’ve got better, just very slowly
Do y’all game on showdown a lot?
Any of y’all in the vgc server?
Oh where’s the vgc server? Id like to join
I’ll send it in a bit
A little
I don’t play very often, I just troll people who are here with awful teams to melt their brain
They’re hosting an online tourney that give championship points
Isn't that the GC coming up
so in that case you are a good player. you have good attitude and you are experienced
I believe so, they just gave an announcement
Ehh give it time
You haven't seen how I actively speak to annoyances
It's pretty disproportionate but it's also very funny
happens to the best of us
I like funny
dont beat yourself up
if i saw people that were clearly inexperienced and dont know what they are talking about arguing when their point is invalid I would be annoyed too
That’s awk
There's a difference between being a douche and having no tolerance for BS
Hey y'know what now
More content baby
Time for me to look at Charlotte overall
You sound like the entire university building trying tell me to stop being depressed, it’s chill I play vgc, it’s a part of the ‘experience’
Aha but you can be both
FLUTTER RAID
Big W
Serebii Update: The next Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Tera Raid Battle event has been announced. Focuses on Flutter Mane in Scarlet & Iron Jugulis in Violet. Runs from January 26th through 28th
Details @ https://t.co/gDbXkHSvkT
Such beauty, such grace
wait this is gonna be impossible
That seems unfair, we on scarlet get a great Pokémon on violet you get an alright Pokemon
Why impossible? 😮
Flutter + Tera fairy will do damage
It will die T1 to Sash Cats and Gholdengo
actually i think gholdengo is the move
I was gonna ask where my Cats went
Will it now know shadow ball?
what im just tryna say
is dont beat yourself up
you have an entire channel that asks you for advice
It's 5 star, just Gholdengo a Sash aswell, still does T1
Tofu therapy session with a bunch of Pokémon players, huh weird day
Anyone wanna give a guess what country i'm in
Cheaper than a liscenced therapist, that’s why we get Tofus advice, constant great ideas
I'll just mention that it's Asian
Philippians
No, close
Singapore
Oh atleast it’s in Asia
Nope, theyre in the circuit
Afghanistan
Too far
Taiwán
Burma, or has it changed its name
I am partly Chinese, but no and no
Timor-Leste
Taiwan
Malaysia
No, and close
Kyrgkstan
Colder
Uzbekistan
Indonesia
Ding ding
Eyyy
Mongolia
Where is the food tofu from?
China
Makes sense
this was a thing???
Thats how its felt playing the ranked ladder for me this whole weekend, impossible to predict when you have no clue what on earth you are facing
why did sv remove this lol
I remember the days when we made the population addicted to oppium because they didn’t want to trade, Britain was great, we never did anything wrong
No comment
Oh no I went like 12-4 but I just don’t play often enough to see meaningful improvement
the only motive i have for getting good is just to face other good players
We were better than the Belgians in the Congo though, that’s to depressing even for me
i feel so uninspired
Going down a slippery slope with this topic
is Archaldon a viable psyspam counter with Stalwart?
Eh
Only if you run Dragon Tail, but might as well run Snarl and use your bulk to your advantage
Nah, it’s a ladder with no rungs, still escapable I just don’t want to
Stamina is overall better since you wanna have Archaludon act as an Urshifu check as well
https://pokepast.es/53399d306d941762 really interesting team
Steel type good against steel + psychic, couple good dark moves, Stalwart stops follow me redirection
but its SpD is putting me off
smeargle in top 6 is huge
Not Archaludon, I don’t like Archaludon, it sucks because it’s competitively viable, I wanted it to be bad, I would have liked it if it was bad
although i feel like that is as far as its accolades will go
https://labmaus.net/tournaments/1176 Labmaus charlotte is up btw
Hatterene realistically can just tera out of Flash Cannon weakness and still get TR up, Armarouge doesn't really care and you're not OHKOing with standard coverage unless youre boosting Specs + another boost
Smeargle is banned now, by me no Smeargle it’s to traumatic, it should never exist again
Id rather Snarl and also simultaneously slow down TR momentum which is the main thing they want
And allowing your side slot to still be relatively safe
what about iron crown though
This also accounts for any Ursalunas which the opposing team will check
that seems to be the dominant one
iron crown is going insane in limitless tours and the vgc winter one
Snarl anyways, can;'t hit Archa with either STAB.
also when is the gc
I've yet to lose to Iron Crown with Archa
and where do i sign up
global challenge
I got there eventually, I was just slow
t'll be announced via the news/probably around this channel and you just sign up via in game
Lol someone tried cook a Furret
LOOOL
Sweeper furret?
oh i was thinking specifically for Iron Crown
Real vgc players never use furret, use sentret instead.
But that’s poor planning
And resource wasting, ahhhhhhhhh
You still just Snarl
Like in the most serious sense
Real vgc players use gen 1 tauros
fair, Stamina Snarl
i really am interested in rain arch
Ok
Found it
That was fast
i was top 500 yikes
Outplayed over 100 people
they were so confident in Psyspam they said F it and added Furret lol
Nah they built around furret
this is the team I eventually got MB rank with, the 6th mon was a swap out for a few mons at any given time (Urshu, Amoongus, Meowscarada, Weezing)
My biggest weakness was Psyspam Iron Crown thus asking about Arch
arch isnt gonna save you from psyspam however...
Does UTurn trigger Toxic Debris?
yes its a physical move 
Arch is decent into psyspam with av and snarl
psychic resist too
is right now an awkward time to just lock in with a team
thats fair though
A lot of flavors of psyspam include either Lando-I or Chi-Yu as well, or sometimes both, so I'm sorta unsure on it being a good thing for Psyspam matchups.
Like if you go with a rain package you enable Sandsear Storm
hey i recent started competive doubles battle and i could use some opion for my team
Criminal lack of protect - heavy-duty boots isn't really good for VGC as there aren't really any hazards to speak of, Gliscor is really bad - Chien-Pao is gonna want protect and Focus Sash, and Sucker Punch over Crunch, and Ice Spinner for terrain clearing
Happens xD
there isnt a lack of protect there, there is an absesnse of it lol 🤣
"Criminal lack"
the other team is singles just letting you know
Yeah it looked like a singles team lol
I'm gonna be honest - Decidueye and Iron Valiant really struggle into the format
substitute on Flutter seems unneeded
how come?
So Decidueye in particular is just not very good and has to contend with things like Incineroar, Chi-Yu, the Genies, etc
Just outclassed, in general.
Valiant gets rolled by Flutter Mane, typically
that kinda the reasion i have celadurge cause of it flash fire
Ceruledge was better in previous regulations but hasn't seen like any play so far in Regulation F and was on a decline in E already.
But yeah, fire threats aren't Decidueye's only problem.
I was sad to see iron bundle lose traction
hmm ok
Gastrodon is fine - decent into Urshifu but pretty scared of Rillaboom
I'm brainstorming possibly a terrible idea 
I like G-Moltres and always have, and of course Flutter, but EVs could use work
G moltres is majestic
Pikalytics is a good general idea for EV spreads that see a lot of use, but they don't tell you what the EVs are for, so you just kind of hail Mary it
Moltres does well with more bulk to take the hits to trigger Sitrus and Berserk and get spAtk bonuses
Poison Tera would be a lot better than Fire there.
so your say i should make G-moltres a bit more bulky?
Yeah definitely.
ok so should i just max one Def or SPD and keep the Speed?
Moltres (Moltres-Galar) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Berserk
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 244 HP / 4 Def / 196 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
Air Slash
Fiery Wrath
Nasty Plot
Protect
This is one a friend ran
You can drop Nasty Plot or Protect for Tailwind if you want it to be a TW setter
Ultimately it's 90 Speed base, and has to deal with Prankster TW setters
HP is usually better investment for bulk unless they already have naturally high HP, just because there is less risk than Def or SpDef
oh ok i give that a shot
ok so you say that decidueye and valiant are not really practcall so should i swich them with someone eles
Gastrodon should probably be physically defensive over specially defensive
And yeah you're even better off with something like Rillaboom over Decidueye if you want the grass slot
Rillaboom a current grass meta viable option
I do really like Ogrepon, however made the mistake of running it alongside Ludicolo in a rain team which didn't make sence as wellspring 😦
Why doesn't it make sense?
Y’all think prankster sableye would be viable in reg f?
probably better Prankster options that have similar move pools
I don't know but I wasn't winning very much lol
so made the conclusion it didn't work (or at the very least I couldn't get it to work)
originally built it for water absorb partnered with Surf Ludi
ok if i were to go with rillaboom what moves and Ev should i go for?
Yah :/ I thought since dark type + twave + fake out + snark was nice
Is AV item the most popular?
For rilla
AV?
Assault vest
oh
this is Wolfe lol
No EVs lol
Jaja yah just use the Wolfe one
ok
Stole it from the LabMaus, didn't show EVs lol
ok so based on the moves would rillaboom a phiyscal sweeper?
So HP and ATK
I wouldn’t say sweeper but pretty close
so has for it EVs what should i forcus it on?
to live something like ogerpon would Hp work the best?
It can if you go DEF+HP, but not if Ogre Tera's
Good to know
Hmm I wonder if that’s worth it
oh wait i could also save ralbome with celadurge if i was in a tight sisulation
because of it flash fire
yes sir
Although i prefer Heatran as a flash fire mon but each to their own on that one
doesn't Hearthflame have Mold Breaker
It does
unless you predict it terastallizing
or switch in after the Tera
I also got gastradon so maybe i could switch with that insted
also do you guys thing that rillaboom could tank agiants R-ushifu
Hhmmm idk the calc on water ushi with rilla AV
But if you could live that and ogerpon
Maybe worth putting HP def then attack? On pikalytics investment in special def was common
hmmm yea
oh yea someone mention that I should make Gastradon a phisical atk istend of spA
45% chance it gets KO'd with max HP+DEF
thats muscle band Urshu
Gastro is SpA though isn't it
choice scarf is 6% chance
that what i thoght too
Hhmm not many have choice band, right?
Do that many have muscle band?
I think many have mystical water doe?
I think so
Urshi usually Mystic, Choice Scarf I believe
oh that right
Lol don’t spec for water rushi, then
without Tera, mystic water it wont KO but will come close
Just put def for ogerpon
And if you see urshi, do gastro
But gastro isn’t really a hard counter for urshi, unfortunately
those were calcs vs Rilla btw
do some testing on Showdown and see how you feel with it imo
ok thx
Play at least 300 matches 🤓
🤣
lol ok
when is the next TGC ladder?
we dont do tcg here
sorry VGC*
3 months
um what VGC
its 00:30 here 😭
@real prairie doesn't it tell you in game when current season ends
Slumber comfily
@real prairie UK ftw 🙌
possibly but that would require me loading up my game haha
Video game championships
but my switch needs charging and my 1 YO is hogging the TV
I'm messing with Showdown Teambuilder had a random idea
oh god
How random
ideas past midnight on showdown are not good ideas lol
😂 the best ideas come out of sleep deprivation and shower time
It involves Perish Song level of random
Uh oh
it was a 3am idea that made me lock in Scarf flower trick Smeagle and Anger point Krookodile into the Blueberry cup a week before the deadline
And smeargle 😂
may as well have been Smeagle, both as useless lol
@real prairie check DMs
Thanks for that
I gotchu. I think one more zoom would be reasonable, but I’ll let someone else do it

😂😂😂. Amazing
Me when pookie bear tells me goodnight
I do want that as a sticker now
My pookie bear is @forest arrow
I haven’t said good night to you in a month
oh…
You could never
you’re cheating?
I never was
Shut up minor
Lmaao
reminds me of snap chat
And saved
I mean yeah
like just a regular armadeedee lead it’s fine
I think archa has a lot more potential than just rain tbh
Jaja damn, that’s accurate
Top cut was single elim so I took 4th, but still I've never gotten through the swiss rounds undefeated
I used my own rendition of priority spam, truly straight from my head
Does anyone know of a good comp team/ Pokémon that are good with clodsire
bring clodsire against muk/smeargle and donzodo in tr and just haze away all the boosts
i saw wolfey won another regional
lesgooo made it to 1500s in bo1
That's a great accomplishment!
I gotta say, if any of you ever make a priority spam team, you need kingambit
It did probably 75% of the work today for me
Kingambit puts in work
I also learned that grassy glide OHKOs water urshifu with sword of ruin active
Unless it has bulk
The ones I faced had no bulk
That's why I have farigiraf, to stop grassy glide spam
My kingambit OHKOd the farigarafs today
Are the farigirafs not running bulk either
Kowtow cleave always OHKOs non-tera farigaraf if king goes tera dark OR has sword of ruin active
Every time I made sure to have that on my side
One game I lead rilla + king and u-turn'd out into chien-pao and king kowtow cleaved farigaraf
That made it less likely for their farigaraf to go tera fairy... which they didn't
i don't think i've come up against chien-pao + gambit yet
Im wanting to get into competitive and ive always liked rain teams. Any reccomendations for mons?
pelipper/torn and archaludon is a good starting point
Torn is tornadus right? Should i use the therian or normal version
Ok thank you
If you need ideas on common moves and items, you can always check it out at MunchStats. This is Torn's page: https://www.munchstats.com/gen9vgc2024regf/1760/Tornadus
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Thank you
https://pokepast.es/04109fbb047d4092 thoughts on a 6? Also any suggestions?
why tera water on the farigarif?
also why TR on it? doesn't look like you have anyone that can take advantage of it.
Anti tw, reversing tr
Water for resisting shifu ig
why not imprison tr
Cuz imprison is a wasted slot
And I’d get much more value out of helping hand, gleam, even protect or nasty plot
fair
but why tera water on raging bolt and not something like grass or fairy?
for the ice moves?
prolly anti-lando tech
i see
I think bolt wants to not be weak to lando if it chooses to Tera
Being weak to poison after preventing a ground move coming out and ko’ing feels bad
Bug was another option but I don’t like bug as a Tera
And then water also keeps the shifu resist
I’m using bug tera
I see that on your rental
And now I'm in master ball
Fuck yeah
a bit of question on your rental, i can see its a very bulky flutter, but does it hits some stuff enough??
its speed booster, and only 4 sp atk investment
and no shadow ball
Ig it’s a more supportive fluttermane
hmm
It is more supportive fs, but 135 base still hits hard
hmm
I was 244/0/124/36/4/100+ but every flutter was outspeeding me
Thunderclap goes Brrrrr
@pale kiln Your rental has been removed due to the following reasons:
- Not having the required rental image in the post.
Hello

it just clicked for me that it says flutter can live a max attack entei (no atk boosting item) next to a pao-
:0
that’s amazing considering flutter is frail
Its because of its frail and low stats
That any investment in those stats
= greater % change
So its really deceptively bulky without much investment at all since it’s already minmaxxed from the getgo
Its also why if theres a great difference between defensive base stats e.g. Iron Hands HP and SpDef
You invest in SpDef first in particular with AV cause it’s more efficient
for less you get mathematically greater SpDef bulk
This does NOT mean you always invest in defensive stats first
The main rule of thumb is always HP first
An investment in HP is an investment in both Def and SpDef
Bulky flutter being a reality was wild to me initially
Now it’s, I just find it fucking annoying to deal with at times
Hey, I made this sun team because I wanna wreak a little bit of havoc online and I was wondering if there were any tweaks I could do to make it better before I start.
Well you can't use in Ranked
It's easier when you also have one
I try to have at least one option to ohko it
This is the sole reason I run Flutter Imprison and Heavy Slam Iron Hands lol
my tera fairy iron hands is a bulky monstrosity 🤣 has won me so many games
do you think it is too late to like lock in a team since restricted is coming or i can lock in a core even for restricted
just minor adjustments
Restricted format? That hasn't been announced, it might not even happen this year (but I assume it will)
Imo you're better off not worrying about that and enjoying the current format instead
not if i actually want to win tournaments
?? Current tournaments do not use restricteds
thats what im worried about
i want to lock in a core but is it too late especially when next format may or may not be restricted
and i might have to make a completely new team
We do not know what the next format will be, but we have at least 2 months left of the current regulation iirc
It's not too late to lock in a core for this reg
Everyone is going to make a new team next format, so maybe focus on a core that will almost certainly remain good
Mons like Urshifu, Incineroar, Ogerpon, and Flutter Mane will probably stay good.
Thats not soon
Focus on the now
And it makes transitions a lot easier
k
Most of the time you’ll also see for the first bit or so people use previous, established regulation teams since theyre more well balanced and less ramshackle compared to new format teams since people are figuring things out
Does anyone here actively PVP
We all do buddy
how can I train & battle for regionals in May
what online tours
Limitless tours they’ve got some running all the time
Tommy Tuesdays one of the more popular/well know ones
Also probably find a group to discuss and run specific sets with
Lmfaoo palworld has a pokemon lmao mod already
Which would be the main bulk of your pre
I saw lol
Ironically
I think it looks
A LOT worse
It does
The hyper realistic environment with cartoony characters feels awkward and out of place
When are people going to accept that in this economy of doom/gloom people kinda want something gratifying and fun as an overall experience
Palworld is fun and thats that
Boycotting stuff does not work 🤷 Look at Hogwarts Legacy
why were they boycotting that lol
The audience values functionally fun and good experiences which and theres a desire for a better Pokemon expefience
i heard the game was solid
JK Rowling is a transphobe
tbh most shouldn't give af abt that
that is their flaw and theirs alone to deal with
Fun? Gratifying? Me and dark souls would like to have a word with you
i wanted to try elden ring
Also how despite all the crrature/monster tamer clones out there Pokemon still remains number 1
And I personally think SV is great as an experience
because its about the vibe
its been amazing
i did not expect sv to hit this hard
My bf got the game for Christmas and donated 2x the cost of the game to a charity and said he justifies it then
I dislike anyone dictating how others should live
Lmfaooo
sv was the first game that really made me want to play after bw2
As long as your way of life does not harm others then you do you
thats understandable
Everyone should be treated well and have universal rights across the board
So any social discourse in my eyes just seems like a lot of yapping
Idk jojo fans kinda push it 🤭
LMAO
Bruh don't even
It changed the trajectory of your life
I don’t wanna talk about it
Don't even
I don’t even think I could
I don't want to either
Literally an understatement
Id rather Alolan Muk and Smeargle win a regional
For once Tofu I agree
Kill it where it stands
Fr where the Takuma Ino stans at
my taxi driver is coughing and I forgor my mask
It’s ok Alolan muk I still believe in you
Tofu did you see the project snorlax art
Shirt over face
i DID
pray for me o lotd
is it mightiest mark or sth?
the new one
its probablt easier to just iso hunt it
wait its 5 star
I think it's 5 star raid like the iron tread and great tusk one
The last 5 star Paradox raid wasn't shiny locked but was a fail with the bug
did it have a mark
Just hope the raid not crashing again like the tusk and tread
yea
It not shiny lock and don't have mark
If you mean the tusk and tread raid
No mark, not shiny locked iirc
if its not shiny locked we can get easy 5iv 0 atk flutter shiny
https://pokepast.es/5e89984728c7014b this is the guy I played
apparently his team isnt as bad as you would expect like he has lines into specific mons and hes been playing this for a min
I've gotten used to time advancing 😄
gl it took me 64038 day skips for 0-1spe0-1atk shiny indeedee-f
took me 3 day skips
yeahhhh
i got lucky
a 1/126,000 per day
Is there any difference catching a 5IV 0Atk shiny Flutter to just catching a shiny flutter and hyper training it?
other than cosmetic
I know, just as an example
fair enough, seems like a LOT of effort for anything that isn't your favourite mon lol
yes
luckily flutter is my fav
i have like 6 shiny flutters
this is just another one to add to my collection
i got lucky and got a 1atk marked shiny
just last week
I bred a full odds shiny ludi 5IV in SwSh and that was torture lol
nice
its nature was wrong but really didn't care at that point 🤣
only thing i care abt on my team rn is the lilligant with the battle tree master mark
h-lilligant 
battle tree as in unova?
marks are cool, i like those, just so random though
GGS
love ball shiny petilil with a bunch of sun and moon ribbons 
i might just rng a shiny tediursa 0 speed and beat red just to get the living legend ursaluna
but why did pkmn change the shiny from ursaring to ursaluna that drastically
all that work for a kinda mid mon
.
I guess they just don't want a green ursaluna
hisuian lilligant is quite the monster competitively
dont diss my goat
…because of lillikoal & trick room (?)
i found a shiny ursaring with a jittery mark
does speed matter that drastically on ursaluna
If you want to play it under trick room yeah
Ground/Normal
Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)
130/140/105/45/80/50
550
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Nah
I mean if it's Hard TR then 0IV speed is desirable
But technically you can even be max IV speed and be fine
Wait lilikoal is still usable in this meta ?
After you have higher priority than prankster taunt?
Yeah it’s just based off speed
which is why instead you lead lilli indeedee
indeedee follow me eject button with lili protecting?
I always forget that lando i has more attack than special attack
Just imagine if eq had a secondary effect
you use sheer force it wouldnt do anything anyways
i need a core to start out with im thinking p2 or something related to balance
what do you guys think i should do
anyone got any suggestions for this team?
https://pokepast.es/0be75c4b3475eee4
things ive noticed:
bad against wide guard
gets destroyed by chi yu
lack of attack options other than torkoal
clefairy needs to be replaced by something that is bulky and can do more damage (im just new to vgc and have no clue what that could be) maybe iron hands or gambit
So you’re right I would drop clefairy or sinistcha for something that can abuse psychic terrain by using expanding force. Hatterene and armarouge are two great pokemon that are good under trick room, you could even add iron crown for a fast eforce mode
Could even drop both clef and sini for hat+arma/crown
You have like most of the components for a psyspam team
Then slap rocky helmet onto indeedee give is dazz gleam and fairy Tera
Registeel and incin can swap items registeel wants iron defense body press
yea il drop clefairy, the sinistcha and incineroar core is quite nice because sinistcha can keep torkoal healthy + covers the incineroar weaknesses + rage powder
yo i just realized execcutor is a perfect niche pick 🔥 , its got harvest with torkoals sun + its got expanding force for pyschic terrain + its got respectable overall bulk

bright minds think alike
Do the trade on Pokemon Home, he doesn't need to have the game
but also this isn't trading channel 😉
Sorry and thanks for the advice! 🙂
Hey so I wanted to run these 4 mons:
Gyrados
Raging Bolt
Ogerpon Heat
Tinkaton.
What should my other 2 slots be? Don't really have previous dlc
Wanted to test more
~~ But I wanted to use the drift queen ToT~~
But yeah that is true
But I know I need the right tools
Tinkaton works best as a bulky support mon, imo. Fake out and t wave
Yeah I was going to run it as Impish nature
With support moves
Debating about the vest
Calm mind tachyon cutter is decent
I don't know if Assault Tink has enough good support moves
If your going to do tinka, you should just go full offense, with swords dance, protect, and gigaton hammer, slap a life orb and get evs and your good
I feel like offense tink is more work than it's worth
Im thinking that too
Low attack stat, and gigaton hammer is a bit predictable if you rely on it
I think it serves a role better as support
But having a BP 160 is always good
Brb working
Enough steel resists that I wouldn't rely on Gigaton as my team's big attack
But please discuss!
You could use an urshifu or hands as a fighting type
tofutofu
The only thing Tinkaton can provide is Fake Out and Feint through Armor Tail
And Inner Focus
sup
What are good supports for a comp team centered around Meowscarada
u stink
Tailwind,
nasty plot on fari or calm mind
and any sort of Helping Hand user
Nasty Plot.
Farigiraf needs to constantly have impactful turns
throat spray
Also works
luckily i have an insanely bulky fari
tofu do you believe in me for knox🥺
i believe in you
i bringing the cutest
also getting cp at charlotte was pretty tough apparently
you needed high res so just going 5-4 wouldnt cut it
shes successfully flown under the radar and now ive made new bait leads 
i excited i just want 1 win tbh
I think ive cooked a couple of scary teams and one for GC
im using my knox team for gc1
im using muk smeargle
or 2-2-2
Ill see if that Comfey team holds up cause there its adjusted early for Darkshifu meta
her🥰🥰🥰
Fighting/Ghost
Vital Spirit, Inner Focus, Defiant (Hidden)
110/115/80/50/90/90
535
isnt that gonna be hard countered by fari
unless you are heal botting
https://pokepast.es/6c96f91894e121a4 team im thinking about using for tournaments in the future
i made this in like 5 mins
I mean
Thats just Wolfe balance
So its just about being efficient with your EVs and knowing your MUs
I thibk BM is better by virtue of spread damage
i was actually thinking about slotting on orthworm to wall out bm
for something to run next to eq luna
You have paper SpDef, you’re still gonna get chunked
ah so were people overhyping it and its just not good
I saw it on a japanese stream wanting to slot it
252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Helping Hand Blood Moon vs. 244 HP / 228+ SpD Orthworm: 185-218 (105.1 - 123.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not Very Effective btw
😂
im not necessarily interested in wolfe balance since aton of ppl are gonna be building into it
do you have any other recommendations
Its just good mons with enough modes that encompass essentially most matchups that are relevant
The metagame always settles towards balance
i really dislike the special bulk on bm i kinda want to avoid
do you think p2 works in its place
k
so flutter and raging bolt as last 2
or bm is a must
if bm is a must ill make it work ig
vc?
sure iab
lmk
Bing bong
Alright got a team please give me some advice because I would like the none legends to survive just a little longer then they are rn:
Palafin: Jet punch Drain Punch Ice punch Flip Turn choice Band and water tera
H Decidueye: Triple Arrows Leaf Blade Shadow Claw Tera Blast Muscle Band Rock Tera
Pikachu: Thunderbolt Volt switch Protect Surf Light Ball water Tera
Ogerpon: Ivy Cudgel Zen Headbutt Horn Leach Protect Hearthflame mask
Terapagos: Tera starstorm Dazzling Gleam Earth Power Tri attack Expert Belt
Zacian: Iron Head Play rough Crunch Swords Dance Rusted Sword Steller Tera
Btw I'm only using this team for Npc battles or to battles friends and family
So, I'm basically making a team based on the character, Wally, from ORAS. Other than Delcatty and Roserade (which are not in Scarlet and Violet), I chose his other 6 Pokemon: Gallade (his ace), Garchomp, Talonflame, Azumarill, Altaria, and Magnezone.
Any suggestion on moves items ect
try munchstats or pikalytics for common moves, items, and abilities used for certain formats. gives you an idea of what to expect to see
Idk what munchstats or pikaytics are lol
Type in Google pikalyics gives you most used moves items abilities and evs
Thanks
Hey can someone answer this EV question for me?
If i max out a Pokémon’s EVs before i get to level 100 on that Mon.
Does it affect my EVs?
So once they are all spent they can’t be altered once i start batting again right?
Correct unless you use specific berrys or a clear mochi
Once they're spent the only way to reduce them is through berry's. Etc
Got it!
Would anyone maybe wanna battle to give me some pointers on my team?
Nice! I’m new to competitive battle.
I thought I'd have to replay the entire game to reset for 0 speed blood moon ursaluna
Since I got it on my main save
But no apparently both dlcs just open up once you finish the 40 minute tutorial
Time to get that ursaluna team
And that extra iron boulder and crown to trade for the better exclusives
And get that gouging fire team
I love that guy
I'm just working on second set of those lol 😆 did Violet on Saturday. Just finishing Teal Mask on Scarlet again. Then need to sort HOME
what the fuck…
I don't see the problem
yo can someone help me make a team for gen 4 ou singles? i got a team but i feel like im missing something
Damn
That's very specific
I don't think any of the regulars here know a lot about gen 4 ou singles
the only problem I see is that you’re not grinding for that ursa rn 😤😤
Hell yea I am
thats the problem i dont know anything too
why that regulation specifically
Campfire is Ursa grinding. I'm just collecting
Haven't played a single singles battle since like gen 5 lol
If I get a low speed Ursa it's a bonus
I mean it's gonna be tough with a level 15 team so I might progress the story first lol
excuses 😤
Why not just home over a level 100? Lol
Wont listen
@polar canyon transfer something to your main and lvl it
Unless you progress the story
Then transfer back. It will listen
Pretty sure this gen they changed it to any pokemon instead of traded not listening
i got a friend that have a discord server and this discord server and other discord server will have a tournament in different games and they asked me to play pokemon showdown for them becuase the other discord server picked it as game but a guy that picked it, picked gen 4 ou singles and i cant change it because he picked it so i have to play gen 4 ou singles
As long as your new save catches it
Or was it gen 8
Don't need to listen just lob a master ball at it and call it a day
This is how I've got 9 Ursas, Oger etc already
What
It's a couple of hours to fly through
But what do you use those for
Ursas sitting in a box atm. Ogerpon I've been using a few. Toxic trio sat in box 
Now get 9 pecharunts
Have 1, have 3 saves ready for another, there's 4 
It's some intense dialogue mashing
yk you should give me all of them 😈
Spent 13 years doing an insanely repetitive job. Dialogue screens are nothing lol 😆
New quick rental if anyone is interested
I just never bothered to post it but it's been up on my twitter for a while but figured I should
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Why did you go 252 speed
On dnite
Outspeed other Dnite so i dont worry about the mirror
Plus generally faster than most “slower” mons abd even some bulky Urshifus
Babe wake up new tofu rental dropped
Amaz
Why heat crash over flare blitz
Weight based so at some times does more than flare blitz
Also no recoil
It caps out at Flare Blitz BP
So not that
Gouging Fire just wants to stay on the field as long as possible as Flare Blitz recoil can make that difficult to happen
For the key targets like Flutter Mane and Amoonguss, you do enough without having to deal with said Recoil.
O
However, there is arguments for Flare Blitz like having capped BP against heavier targets like Farigiraf
But Heat Crash also doesnt miss against Minimise targets/.
So its a pro/con thing.
Thanks for the explanation
Another thing is that if you just boost up with Howl then the differences start evening out sometimes but Gouging Fire isn't meant to be the sweeper anyways
Would you consider gouging fire balanve
Yes
At least luka’s team
I think I got a 1-3 Spe IV BM this run. Need to send it to my save with Judge lol
Check its stats
79 Speed at lv70
2-3
I'm just catching whatever is there on the run lol
Just restart and save
And use showdown to check stats
i return
Depart
🖕

Dynamic duo
Lando is a sleeper pick
Kinda neat that lando incarnate got more usage now
guys do you need a sinistcha with 0 speed or does max speed work, just in general r there sets for max speed
max SPE IV is fine
especially if you’re using it on a hybrid trick room & fast mode team
can it be used not on a trick room team?
my team is trick room, its just that I want to use all shinies and its gonna be hard
yeah I’ve seen it on teams that aren’t exclusively trick room
how is porygon2 supposed to be played
what tera type to y'all use on rillaboom? I use fire but I'm down for better types
if you’re just playing the ladder for fun, don’t worry about your speed IV really
idk man im trying to get really good at VGC maybe do some ranked tournaments online
not anywhere close to that level yet tho
then you have to choose between optimal teams and shinies hahaha, with Trick Room teams it’s very hard to have both
your best bet is breeding but even then it can take like 10-20 hours
or im just not running trick room anymore ig
Is that a scrafty on the far right?
wait i didnt realize scrafty was so bulky lol
its typing kinda throws it all away though
mood fr
@mighty stump tofu tofu loook
@next stump will you cheer for me in 2weeks🥺

of course 🙂
Why would someone choose stellar over ghost for chien-pao?
Does it work better for certain teams?
it gives you the damage on your moves to get OHKOs that are otherwise 2HKOs
- you don't have to pick either tera dark or tera ice for boosted stab
If you can have both
It's satisfying to tera stellar sucker punch a metagross
I'll have to figure out what's best
yeah im struggling too
I think I'm more fond of stellar for it now
Usually protect is enough for fake out matchups
yayayaya
I have a question
Does a power items effect transfer to all Pokémon in the party because of exp share
Or just the Pokémon holding the item
Lmao
Just the item holder
Nah why the fuck would I do that
JK go kick gum and chew ass
I'll be doing the same in GC while you do that
I believe in you Emmie
And have fun too
@mighty stump im making changes to wolfey's team https://pokepast.es/809e5be4bf044234 do you think it needs follow me on ogerpon here for fari
I wouldn't make changes to his team
Man knows how to build, he probably built that for specific reasons
Hi. What build do I do for Archaludon as bulky offensive?
what tera types do yall use for rillaboom
i think fire and grass are the most common
poison is kinda cool as well, I’ve seen that sometimes
also lowkey need some improvements on this team https://pokepast.es/7fbee655405a2d40
Post in the pins can give you two differrent AV EV sets
is this outdated?
I don’t see why it would be
https://pokepast.es/7a3361e043de1bc7 wait so a team like this is good?
We moved up bois and girls
Tofu is it just me or is yours wonky like this too
The order of the channels
mine is too
im used to it at the bottom
Yoohoo
I use fire. With max atk, rillaboom OHKOs no bulk water urshifu with grassy glide and sword of ruin active
So water weakness isn't so much an issue
How viable you think a snow mode is in competitive right now? Just 1 team in top 30 with it in Charlotte, and i really want to use alolan ninetails
Oh Labmaus
rocky helm on torn and damp rock on poli
or mental herb on torn
thanks
.mattmemes has given 1 Gen Rep to generalia222
I don’t recommend running speed on arch
Oh this is from the repo
Or anything like super high 12 or a little more is fine
I didnt make this
I’m not saying you did I’m just suggesting things
Oh yea
After charlotte i connected with a lot of the people i faced
Im gonna play in this himmy turners on wednesday and hopefully do well
Anyone here thinking of playing in Indianapolis?
Also fire tera on a rain team is unideal imo, go grass
Gotcha
Especially when you have pao you just blow things up
I kinda want to try including a balance aspect into the team
yeah I will be there most likkely
Eyy ok. I think ima go, and it’ll be my first competition
Get that worlds invite

