competitive_discussion

[runic bloom]

gen 10

[willow vault]

Maybe

[runic bloom]

@scarlet otter what items to run on team

[willow vault]

Are there any rumours about new games, cause honestly I’d rather not have new games for an extra year so the next ones are slightly more polished

[pearl wind]

[willow vault]

You also like Escavalier?

[runic bloom]

yeah i heard leaks about a possible new switch so i hope they wait for that to come out to drop gen 10 for possible better performance

if anything this year we’re just getting remakes HOPEFULLY

[willow vault]

I kinda don’t want any games for 1 year but that’s just me

[pearl wind]

its a cool pokémon

[willow vault]

So true

[runic bloom]

so we’re broke

[willow vault]

Yeah I’m a student of course I’m broke

[runic bloom]

i feel you

[pearl wind]

i hope dat the switch2 or whatever it'll be called will have something similar to shareplay on the playstation, thats the only thing i want

[scarlet otter]

What was the team again?

[runic bloom]

^

[scarlet otter]

K whimsicott should run focus sash

[runic bloom]

so we’re in copper

[scarlet otter]

This team seems like the perfect Justified Terrakion opportunity

Hold up lemme eat and do some stuff

I’ll get back to you in DM’s

[runic bloom]

omg someone made one video on terrakion whim and now that’s the only thing whim is good for 😭

[runic bloom]

alr tysm 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[gentle crag]

zoofy. has given 1 Gen Rep to rayothewindfan

[scarlet otter]

Might sleep

[runic bloom]

forgot time zones alr lmk whenever your awake

[covert urchin]

can i ask for team building help here even if it’s not comp

[runic bloom]

ya

[covert urchin]

ok so i’m making a shiny hunting team and need some move recommendations

[runic bloom]

something with false swipe

[willow vault]

https://pokepast.es/92f62eab4d5d4dea, thoughts?

[covert urchin]

i have breloom with spore, smeargle, latias, gallade, trevenant, does it matter what gets false swipe

[runic bloom]

nah

[covert urchin]

oh my smeargle has false swipe and roost

[runic bloom]

just had to be high enough level to leave at 1hp

[runic bloom]

it’s definitely something

[willow vault]

Yep

I’m completely insane

[covert urchin]

any ability’s or other moves you could recommend?

[runic bloom]

OH @covert urchin something with damp to prevent any pokemon with explosion from offing itself

[covert urchin]

that’s what counters it perfect

i couldn’t remember if it was damp or something else

[runic bloom]

ya

and then yk the mesuda method for this gen right

[covert urchin]

but considering that’s situational i’m not gonna account for that

[covert urchin]

yeah, i’m doing hunts in bdsp

[runic bloom]

goodluck 😎

[covert urchin]

so the team matters a little more lol

what moves set up sunlight

[strange fjord]

Sunny Day.

That's it I believe.

For abilities, its Drought, Orichalcum Pulse and Desolate Land.

[runic bloom]

sunny day which whimsicott is good for 😏

[tired sage]

yep that’s right

[scarlet otter]

Max speed for Tornadus to ensure you don’t get taunted by other Tornadus

[willow vault]

Ok

[covert urchin]

can any of the pokemon i said learn that?

[nocturne holly]

that’s not really needed

[karmic temple]

You don’t necessarily have to go max speed on tornadus

[karmic temple]

Hey can u not copy me

[nocturne holly]

Most torns would rather go for a tw and have bulk

[nocturne holly]

you said it after me so you suck

[willow vault]

So mental herb instead?

[karmic temple]

I TYPED MORE WORDS REEE

[nocturne holly]

or helm

[willow vault]

Fairs

[karmic temple]

Mental herb or dark Tera if you’re really worried about prankster taunt

[nocturne holly]

nerd 🤓

[willow vault]

Why you all eat the mochi?

[karmic temple]

But if you’re going bulky stick with helm

It’s purple so I couldn’t resist

[nocturne holly]

fr

[willow vault]

Fair I have no idea how to create tags for my name

[nocturne holly]

I haven’t played the epilogue yet

[karmic temple]

You can be a mochi too just go to #indigo_disk-ussion and type something

Epilogue is alright

[willow vault]

Alright I’m purple too

[karmic temple]

Basically just like 7 extra story battles and the mythical

[chrome knot]

womp womp

smart people dont get infected

[karmic temple]

I’m building up antibodies

[willow vault]

Cheese 🧀

Mozzarella

Edam

Cheddar

Now I disappear for like a week

[nocturne holly]

purple color on top

blue 🤮🤮🤮

[brazen bough]

fax

[chrome knot]

only orange role is something ion want

[nocturne holly]

comp helper is too much work

[chrome knot]

mhm

and idr support the people who run server so no pink

so blue it issss

[near smelt]

Question is it possible to run Gastro with trapping capabilities?
I tried Gothi and really liked the aspect. But it felt a bit too passive and I feel like I got to run perish trap if I do that route

[tired sage]

i just like this purple color

[near smelt]

Wait is Gastro just bad?

Asking around and hearing it is not good rn

[karmic temple]

He’s just not very common, and two of the most common mons (rilla and oger) clap it with the 4x grass weakness

Trapping Pokémon is also really niche and you have to invest too much for such little payout (if you’re using moves like wp, fs, infestation for trapping)

[near smelt]

I feel like you can accommodate for the grass weaknesses.
I tried Gothitelle but there were times where I trapped into a losing MU

So it's like a hard commit unless perish trap

Also the not common thing makes sense

I just was told it was like super trash 😭 and it made me sad for the slug

[karmic temple]

I mean yeah you can Tera but then you’re forced to Tera or switch the moment you see any grass type

[little plank]

Does anyone have a smeargle A-muk team built? I really wanna try that team lol

[near smelt]

Can't I pair with like Ogerpon Fire?

[karmic temple]

It’s not super trash but it’s not great in the meta

[near smelt]

To redirect any incoming grass and have a grass answer?

[karmic temple]

You could, but gastro is a much more defensive pokemon than offensive so you have no pressure on the board if youre just gonna spam follow me

[near smelt]

Not even if I run yawn Gastro?

Or run it with Hisuian Arcanine?

To lower offensively?

It's hard because the main thing I like doing is being able to single out stuff in a way (Hence why Shadow Tag Gothitelle was a big thing for me)

Ting Lu probably bad because Urshifu huh

[bold geode]

I get the orange someday (serotonin hits)

Also yes I am not smart so I got infected

[gloomy matrix]

is there any good singles team?

[real prairie]

I'm seeing a lot of usage of bulky porygon2 this evening and it's Fing annoying

Porygon2 with sinistcha, spam healing and inflict burns for chip damage

[nocturne holly]

yup it’s pretty damn bulky

with eviolite
knock off should help deal with it

or just big raw damage

[real prairie]

Just hasn't been my night, got fully parra 4x in a row in my last game, makes me want to run cresselia just for lunar blessing

[nocturne holly]

tough

[real prairie]

Can't win them all as they say

[nocturne holly]

fr all you can do is learn and move on

[karmic temple]

Tfw when you finally have gouging fire and it’s so clearly hacked 😭😭

[strong lodge]

How get?

[pale mica]

get 200 pokemon in indigo disk DLC

then you met Perrin to start finding 2 last Paradox

[lofty tartan]

👀

[shell sandal]

dang

[stone tide]

what do you guys think'll happen when terapagos is eventually allowed into vgc? considering how well-designed ogerpon is in my opinion, i def have high hopes

[tidal blade]

terapagos seems strong but its also just a tera hog

[chrome knot]

meh

its decent in singles but idk if itll be any good in doublss

[molten oasis]

alright, what are yall up to

[dapper crag]

Move: Tera Starstorm

If the user is a Terapagos in Stellar Form, this move's type becomes Stellar and hits all opposing Pokemon.

Type

Normal

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

sorry

a 120 base attack that hits both sides of the field and has no drawback, at all, sounds kinda crazy to me

when it tera's

even if its a tera hog, thats kinda insane

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar

Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Base Species

Terapagos

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

and then when it tera's it had THAT bulk, thats kinda wild

and that attack comes off of 130 base spA

thats really solid

[stone tide]

teraform zero isn't a crazy ability but shutting down weather can easily ruin some teams

tera shell is also a really great ability, especially if you're gonna run some sorta bulky calm mind set which i think will be relevant in the metagame

[normal apex]

Hey can anyone help me run a team? At a con and they have a tournament on Saturday

Not sure if singles or doubles but id still wanna test a few things

[molten oasis]

i think thats what people have experimented with

they go calm mind first turn

then next turn they tera and blow shit up

[stone tide]

yeah, but it's not like it's super weak without tera tho

might not be amazing but it's got damn respectable bulk

[normal apex]

Any tips on this team?

[cosmic gust]

Does anyone have any tips on how to build the best torterra and sceptile

[vivid nest]

Doubles or singles?

[mighty stump]

Torterra your only option is to probably do shell smash stuff

Alternatively theres Iron Def Body Pres

There really isnt options for Sceptile outside of some standard sash 3 move

[runic bloom]

hi tofu

[molten oasis]

It’s decent without the Tera yea

[molten oasis]

I think all that Sceptile can do is like, shed tail stuff

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 254: Sceptile

Type

Grass

Abilities

Overgrow, Unburden (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/85/65/105/85/120

Total

530

Other Formes

Sceptile-Mega

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Pokémon No. 967: Cyclizar

Types

Dragon/Normal

Abilities

Shed Skin, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/95/65/85/65/121

Total

501

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

And cyclizar is better for it lol

[near smelt]

Hey what are other ways to run Gothi that isn't perish trap?

Decided to invest in learning to use Shadow Tag better and play with that

[grizzled bronze]

okay fake out user with hypnosis

[near smelt]

Anything with heal pulse? Taunt?

[mighty stump]

Thats just gambling at that point

Ideally you want to have an idea of what matchups/board states you want to trap and make sure your side slot can pick up the slack e.g. Ttar + Gothitelle to trap Armarouge Psyspam

[dapper crag]

Move: Psyblade

If the current terrain is Electric Terrain, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5.

Type

Psychic

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[carmine pilot]

Havent kept up with competitive since Regulation D, thinking on going back... Whats the current meta?

[knotty mirage]

It's still developing but the thing that i see often now is prio move spam

[mighty stump]

So

A few things

Farigiraf + BM Ursaluna
Chuppa’s Dondozo
Rios’ TW Glimmora HO
Priority Spam (Alex Underhill 6)
Raging Bolt Balance
Archaludon Rain
Psyspam, Iron Crown and Arma

Im probably missing a couple of things

[cyan smelt]

Entei chien Pao E speed

[dull ibex]

hello

[mighty stump]

Thats Priority Spam

[mighty stump]

PalWorld is out

Debating getting it

[dull ibex]

I want it so bad dude

[mighty stump]

Looks like pure bants

They also might get sued but oh wwll

[gentle delta]

I love that for Psyspam you say Arma over Hat

a true scholar who understands the king of the meta

[mighty stump]

Hatt blows a tera in front of Gholdengo already checks out my care for it

[cyan smelt]

It even has to tera in front of kingambit

[mighty stump]

Yeah, but Gholdengo has spread moves which is the main thing here, and resists both STAB

[cyan smelt]

True

[tough idol]

What TZ is Charlotte in?

[real prairie]

Looking for an extra set of eyes (or lots of in this case) to help plug any holes I have

from what I can see I have 3x Fairy Tera which isn't great and issues with status infliction/recovery

[tough idol]

Is the Imprison for opposing Flutter or to block Protect

[real prairie]

bit of column A, bit of column B

thinking i might need to swap sash for booster energy to ensure I outspeed for the Imprison

[cyan smelt]

shouldn't you change iron hands tera to grass or something

or fire to prevent burn

[real prairie]

Fire resists Fairy so that is also viable

was originally Fairy just to counter Flutter but I have my flutter for that now too

[cyan smelt]

yeah, fairy doesn't resist fairy

[real prairie]

yeah its neutral i know, but it also only takes SE from Poison and Steel and most people won't target Iron Hands with either

[cyan smelt]

also it's funny, someone sent out their dondozo against me, i sent out rillaboom to nerf eq damage then clodsire to haze away their boosts and they just forfeit

[real prairie]

🤣

Love when people are so undone by a counter they just quit

no plan B

[cyan smelt]

whenever i see dondozo in a team i'm just going to have rilla and clodsire in the back

[real prairie]

thats why my Amoong has Clear Smog, although been undone a couple times ages ago with Tera Steel

[cyan smelt]

and i make sure to use toxic on the dondozo so they can't protect stall

if they're not tera steel that is

[real prairie]

Does Corrosion + Mortal Spin work?

[cyan smelt]

no, corrosion only works with toxic

i think

[real prairie]

Shame, that would be really good

[cyan smelt]

yeah i think that's why nobody runs salazzle

there's something so satisfying about using toxic though

[real prairie]

One of my first teams was Mortal Spin + Hex | Venoshock Gengar, but this was Jan last year

Also leading with Gengar with TR was funny to counter TR Indeedee + Armo

they put TR up, I take it back down again 🤣

[cyan smelt]

yeah reversing tr is satisfying too

[real prairie]

Especially with a fast Mon because means next turn you get to a good 1st hit

Mortal Spin + TR turn 1 to counter Follow me TR, then turn 2 its double Venoshock

was very niche but fun

[cyan smelt]

glimmora gets meteor beam now which makes it even deadlier

[real prairie]

isnt that a 2 turn hit?

[cyan smelt]

power herb

[real prairie]

Yeah, suppose less need for Rocky Helmet now

no one leads pop bomb anymore

[cyan smelt]

it can just tera to grass now

[real prairie]

I like it, Might have to bring it out of retirement. Mortal Spin + Hex Flutter sounds evil lol

[mighty stump]

I still kinda dislike Power Herb Glimmora

You lose a STAB after a single turn

[real prairie]

lose STAB but gain a + SpAtk so its 6 of one ect

[mighty stump]

+SpA then realise you can't hit some of the things you want to for SE damage anymore

[real prairie]

true

[mighty stump]

and whats 6 of one

[real prairie]

6 of one, half a dozen of the other

basically means 50/50

there are pros and cons

[mighty stump]

I don't think 50/50 is interchangeable as pros and cons

But sure, I understand

From practice, it's unfortunate when one of your main big buttons gets lost and it can force awkward positions since despite the +1, unless you're hitting SE with STAB, you're not really picking up the KOs you want

Granted, it's decent chip, however it really suffers in certain matchupsl

Especially Chuppa's Glimmora, which is the Power Herb set.

Can't hit a Steel type after one Meteor Beam,

[cyan smelt]

don't they usually run earth power

[mighty stump]

Meteor Beam/Sludge Bomb/Mortal Spin/Spiky Shield

[cyan smelt]

ah

i saw one with energy ball but that wasn't high ladder

[mighty stump]

You can run Earth Power over Mortal Spin but it doesn't KO Gholdengo

So you're shit outta luck even with +1

[shrewd scarab]

Tofu can I DM you? I wanna pick your brain about something

[real prairie]

Remind me, does Mortal Spin also clear hazards or nah?

[cyan smelt]

nope

that's rapid spin

[real prairie]

Yeah knew Rapid Spin did, there is also a couple other "Spins" i think

[cyan smelt]

or you can clear toxic spikes by sending out a poison type

[grizzled bronze]

yeah

[mighty stump]

Sure

[cyan smelt]

oh wait my bad mortal spin does remove hazards

[mighty stump]

Mortal Spin clears

Ice Spinner is the one that doesn't.

[real prairie]

Lovely

[dull ibex]

Why?

[mighty stump]

Studio-wide history of ripping stuff from other franchises asset-wise

[brazen bough]

Its like free

Its not tf

I thought it was a non profit fan game

[mighty stump]

? It's not lol

[wheat ember]

https://pokepast.es/9eb8652050c818e0 ive climbed to masterball rank with this team from pokeball tier this season. is there anyway to can improve it? im around no. 14956 now? (doubles)

[normal apex]

Any way to help improve the team?

Entering a tournament tomorrow and want to test it out

[molten cedar]

Who is/are the rain setter/setters?

[normal apex]

None, own tempo. Analytic, and competitive

[chrome knot]

only help i can suggest is remake the entire team

[normal apex]

Colo is a terrain breaker, stamina body press on archa, who is fighting T

Infiltrator wisp hex, prankster graf

[molten cedar]

Honestly just follow Pouty’s advice and remake the entire team removing everybody except Archaludon and change the set to Assault Vest and maybe Ludicolo if you really wanna use it but then you’ll have to invest in rain

[chrome knot]

you’ll get kinda stomped by anyone using a standard team iwl not trying to be mean just lke if ur competing you want to play something optimal

and pls dont tell me that tournament is charlotte regional

[normal apex]

Oh no

Its a con

A for funsies kind of tournament

[chrome knot]

youll still see standard play

[molten cedar]

For funsies ≠ everybody will use bad teams
Unless it’s in the rule set of course

[karmic temple]

You need someone to set the like rain like pelliper so you can perish trap with gothi they would enable ludi and archu if you gave it eshot or thunder but tbolt is more reliable if rain is gone

[normal apex]

What ever happened to people just using teams they think are fun? Why does everyone have to use the same sets as everyone else. Its boring

[karmic temple]

I implore you to go look at pikalytics or munchstats to see what items/moves/evs to use for those pokemon

Winning is fun

[normal apex]

Mirror matches arent

[chrome knot]

no bc we play to win (?)

[molten cedar]

If they banned Urshifu, Amoonguss, Tornadus, Whimsicott, all paradox Pokémon, Ogerpon, Incineroar and all the other meta Pokémon except Arch… then your team is great keep up the good work!

[gentle delta]

This is competitive discussion not “I wanna win with shit pokemon” discussion

I dont know how to say it nicer but this isnt the place for what you want

[normal apex]

Im gonna leave tge server then. If this is the mindset of the game then i have no hope

[chrome knot]

LOL

[molten cedar]

But honestly if you really wanna use it, go for it, but please do not ask Competitive Discussion how good your bad team is

[normal apex]

Im bot asking to win, im asking for just general tips

[gentle delta]

This channel for is for competition

Tournaments and meta

Not “funsies”

[chrome knot]

lillikoal is prettyyyyyy funsies

[molten cedar]

Tip: Make a new team

[karmic temple]

If you’d like tips I again suggest going to pikalytics or munchstats to at least give you a good idea of how to build whatever mons you’d like

Even if you don’t want to change your team - totally fine. But at least go and see how they should be built

[chrome knot]

they left yippeeee

[karmic temple]

That was honestly

Pretty funny ngl

[chrome knot]

a casual

going erk why do you have to use meta!!!!

omg tofus tweet is so real rn lemme get it

[real prairie]

rain politoed had perish song 🙂

[chrome knot]

https://fxtwitter.com/woodtofuvgc/status/1747674344158093824?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

scissors nation woooo

[molten cedar]

Guys pls rate my team
Archaludon
Stonjourner
Hawlucha
Minior
Chansey
Tarountula

[real prairie]

Would be nice to see a tournament once a year where all BST are made =, use any mons from the series and get to be creative with moves/abilities

[molten cedar]

It’s very good!

And for funsies

[real prairie]

Hard to say without seeing items/moves/abilities/tera ect

[molten cedar]

Don’t worry I’m just kidding

[real prairie]

oh haha fair enough

[karmic temple]

“I’m gonna leave the server if competitive players only play to win”

[real prairie]

You can only polish a turd so much, even if its your favourite turd

[karmic temple]

Yes that’s what I meant

[molten cedar]

Guys I think I can make Throh a meta pick when he returns gen 10

[karmic temple]

I read that as rofus but with a t 😭 like who is that

[molten cedar]

Honestly that tweet is relatable as a casual scissors fan

[real prairie]

As Ludicolo biggest fanboy, what on earth is going on here.... Its not bulky raindish leftovers, its not swiftswim... why does it have shellbell 🤯

poor ludi

[molten cedar]

252+ SpA Ludicolo Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Swampert-Mega: 432-508 (106.9 - 125.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And with shell bell giga drain heals 84%, now the set makes perfect sense if you’re facing swampert-mega in gen 9

[karmic temple]

Good thing Megas aren’t in game

[real prairie]

Still makes zero sense from an ability standpoint

[molten cedar]

It’s Own Tempo because Ludicolo also has Zen Headbutt and he doesn’t want to be intimidated, do you get it now?

It’s a Mixed Set with both attack stats having 252 ev investment

[brazen bough]

swampert mega doesnt exist in the format

[molten cedar]

Just a joke, somebody came in with a horrible team and for some reason Ludicolo had shell bell

[karmic temple]

Tip for anyone reading this: never max/max both attack and special attack if they’re a mixed attacker 😭 just pick one struggle

[real prairie]

Genuinely forgot ludi had access to own tempo 😭 I've failed you ludi

[near smelt]

I don't mind that 😮

So if I am using a ttar do I want the boulder with it?

and yeaaaaah.....Idk if mandibuzz tthe move as cool as I saw it

[brazen bough]

thats like mostly never an issue

[gentle delta]

Oh something I wanted to say about the dude with the terrible team

If you’re gonna have a bad team, at least try to make it coherent as you can if you’re sticking to a theme or something. That was just a random pile of rubbish.

Like if someone came in with a monotype team, but it was like as competitive as it could be, I’d give it props

Someone won a local dressed as Larry playing mono-normal hard TR

[mighty stump]

For people who know what they're doing, yes

But that's not most people who come here

[dull ibex]

They're owned by Microsoft now so hopefully everything is ight

Atleast the game is bought by them

[tired sage]

mmm maybe i should do this too…

[molten oasis]

What are y’all up to

[brazen bough]

oh nothing much

just doiny my final touches

[molten oasis]

What’s the team?

[cosmic gust]

Doubles

[brazen bough]

its just bm ursa fari registeel stuff

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[brazen bough]

I kinda wanna run sunny day on my flutter

[cosmic gust]

I am trying to make a competitive doubles only starter team anyone got any suggestions I am trying to have two fire two water and two grass

[mighty stump]

That's practically non-existent

The starters are majority non-viable

[vivid nest]

Tofu already answered, but Torterra can run shell smash set with sash or iron defense body press for a bulky set, although you can add amnesia.
Sceptile with unburden can have sash, grassy or psychic seed if your team runs rillaboom or indeedee, or even weakness policy. For a support set it can run quick guard, breaking swipe and leaf storm; for a more offensive oriented, it can have acrobatics, leaf storm/leaf blade and other coverage move or protect

[mighty stump]

I;d just start with being realistic with the expectations.

The metagame is almost non-forgiving

[cosmic gust]

Well it isent your team is it

[mighty stump]

Okay, being an inexperienced nitwit isn't going to make YOUR team any better either

So cut the attitude. Its competitive. That's how it is.

I'm not going to coddle delusion lol

[cosmic gust]

Don’t I care I like having fun I like the starters and i like competitive and is it not your team nitwit

[mighty stump]

Suit yourself, you forfeited most of the good help available to you with that sentence.

[cosmic gust]

How are you competitive help if all you do is dog on people’s ideas

[mighty stump]

If not all

[vocal patio]

Any 1 got a good iv/ev indeedee armarouge or eggs for trade

[mighty stump]

Not a trading channel.

[cosmic gust]

Tofu learn to respect people okay o came in here to make a fun competitive team that you know might be crap but good enough for me and you come in and call is a garbage idea which I knew but didn’t care and you decide to be more rude after that

[mighty stump]

Try #trading_sv

[mighty stump]

Oh no

Anyways

Also, its not "I know might be crap" its "I definitely know it's garbage with convoluted execution conditions that a nitwit like you wouldn't be able to pilot with 5 years of experience"

Also, whatever grammar you got going on needs to be checked out

[cosmic gust]

I don’t care

[vocal patio]

@mighty stump what ur main team

[mighty stump]

Sure you don't buddy

[cosmic gust]

Good question

[mighty stump]

If you didn't care you wouldn't have pinged me after I ignored you

[vocal patio]

Using grammar on discord is some need shi 😂

[mighty stump]

? I guess being literate is a bad thing?

[cosmic gust]

Tofu what is your main team

[vocal patio]

Not being literate it’s discord

Who gives a fuck

[mighty stump]

Oh we got two clowns today

I do, actually

[cosmic gust]

Dude you joined less than two months ago chill your roll my guy

[vocal patio]

Then ur the clown

[mighty stump]

Lol

Let's see

[cosmic gust]

I also meant to the server

[gentle crag]

⚠ Warned _random123_

⚠ Warned j2111

[mighty stump]

Also <@&663761167176433665>

Anyways you kids have fun

[vocal patio]

Big boy warning

[cosmic gust]

Your abusing your ability’s

[vocal patio]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-gif-11873757655545763046

[mighty stump]

You're*

[feral wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/sayuri-namba-tjpw-tokyo-joshi-pro-wrestling-pro-wrestling-hello-gif-1987316891193380300

[vocal patio]

Man called me a clown I called him one he gets hurr

[mighty stump]

Chill my guy you're not allowed to send images yet clowny

Gotta grow up a lil

[vocal patio]

I’ll do what I want

[mighty stump]

Uhuh

Go on

[vocal patio]

I am

[mighty stump]

What else you wanna do

[vocal patio]

Idk yet

[mighty stump]

Oh okay

I'll wait

[vocal patio]

Didn’t ask

[mighty stump]

I understand being dropped on your head must have been a difficult thing to go through as a baby

But with time and effort

I'm sure you'll be able to use all the colours of the crayon

[bold geode]

But they're tasty

[charred saddle]

what

[mighty stump]

Someone got butthurt I called a starter team unviable and the other one got butthurt about being literate or something

[vocal patio]

U do like toying a lot

[mighty stump]

Apparently reading is difficult so we gotta use less letters guys, be nice

[vocal patio]

Not but hurt I’m not u I just said it’s discord who cares bout grammar

But ig ur just a nerd

[mighty stump]

ok u r dum dum

[cosmic gust]

Tofu what are the rules of this server

[vocal patio]

Deffo 0 friends irl

[mighty stump]

Lol

[mighty stump]

Idk, you tell me

[feral wraith]

Bro calling someone a nerd in a Pokémon discord server

[mighty stump]

I only joined 2 months ago

Idk what's going on

[feral wraith]

Spider-Man point meme

[charred saddle]

nerd

[marsh creek]

Good fucking lord

[cosmic gust]

That’s a lie because your earned me for no reason

[feral wraith]

Hi Sen

[marsh creek]

Everyone, shut up. Now

[mighty stump]

Okiedokie

[grizzled bronze]

is calm mind on a speed boost iron crown fine

[mighty stump]

That's fine

[grizzled bronze]

alright

[marsh creek]

I don't care who started it but bickering like schoolchildren is just ridiculous

[bold geode]

I've seen that
Just make sure if you do that, you have lines for things like Kingambit

[mighty stump]

Just slot Urshfiu

EzPz

[grizzled bronze]

i have things like lando and ursh yeah

[bold geode]

Oh you're big chilling then

[mighty stump]

With Booster Spe i'd also be wary of Snarl Archalduon/Gholdengo

You need a couple of CM boosts to actually start doing something as well, and you don't outright threaten Flutter sometimes

[grizzled bronze]

fair

[supple ether]

@molten cedar you are a menace to society

[grizzled bronze]

but i try to lead differently for them

[mighty stump]

Worst case scenario, really

I vaguely remember a pretty good one I ran into

But I don't remember what is it they ran. Incin was definitely on there as well

[cosmic gust]

What are the best competitive starters

[brazen bough]

https://pokepast.es/b4d10cf8827cd00e do i really need icy wind here?

[grizzled bronze]

late game lando pretty much deals with incin so i never really had a trouble with him

[mighty stump]

Not at all

I'd prefer to run Incin over Ogerpon probably to give you a FO + Pivot mode

Also lets Registeel set up turn 1s sooner and safer

I thkn the Flutter you'd want would be outright damage

Sash also can be valid

If you wanan replace Scarf on Urshifu

Which means you have two methods of going for TR modes + a strong "fast mode"

With HH boosted Wicked Blow

[brazen bough]

alright

[mighty stump]

If you do want Ogerpon on it

[bold geode]

Incineroar
Primarina can work
Empoleon is off meta that can somewhat work
Serperior as a real niche
Rillaboom
I'd say that's about it

[mighty stump]

Probably best to go for Wellspring with support

[bold geode]

Mainly Incineroar and Rillaboom

[mighty stump]

Wellspring can also help out against Amoonguss which is something FariLuna does not like

[brazen bough]

gotcha

[mighty stump]

This is the singlehandedly funniest shit I have ever seen in my entire time being helper

But godspeed lads

[lethal zinc]

Give me Palworld sets please.

[mighty stump]

I got schooled so hard

By the first boss

[feral wraith]

Hi Amon

[mighty stump]

I'm so lost

[lethal zinc]

I need to play it when I come back from mosque.

[mighty stump]

I'm level 10

[lethal zinc]

Hello EJC.

[mighty stump]

I might restart and pick a better base spot

Next to a fast travel or something

[lethal zinc]

That’s probably the move tbh.

The game is pretty.

[fallen garden]

i think i would get palworld if it wasn't so survival/crafting focused

[lethal zinc]

It’s on game pass so I figured I’d try it.

You can tone down survival aspects if you want iirc.

[mighty stump]

I actually kinda like it since it slows my brain down

I don't have to worry about much

Other than do one menial thing here and there

Commit unpaid labour

Move on to other thing

What I kinda hate is packing up your base and trying to move everything

Probably gotta do it one box at a time or something

[cosmic gust]

Any other good fire types

[charred saddle]

GF best mascot starter

charizard

[mighty stump]

Blatant misinformation

[charred saddle]

[mighty stump]

💀

[charred saddle]

tofu, do you play mobile legends

[mighty stump]

Get out

[charred saddle]

im seeing lots of gouging fire in yt lately, is it like crawling up rn?

people been using it as paonite entei stuffs

[mighty stump]

It's cause it anchors teams for the PaoNite MU

#tofudiditfirst

Cause fast Breaking Swipe + Burning Bulwark can be rough to play around for that MU

And does tons better than Incineroar cause Inner Focus does that it does

Plus, BSwipe + Heat Crash OHKOs Chien-Pao

[charred saddle]

ye ye imean thats what ive been tinkering with my team so ye

https://pokepast.es/1ba6d514faf3a817

any inputs for that?

[mighty stump]

Looks fine by me

Lol

Gouging Fire thrives on GoodStuffs

[tired sage]

:0
Leo!!

[charred saddle]

i mean yeah true ig

[charred saddle]

[next stump]

this event hall in charlotte is insane

there’s like 4k players in the event

[mighty stump]

Crazy

Good luck Dillon

We'll be eagerly watching your run

[feral wraith]

Charlotte is lovely this time of year I’ve heard

[next stump]

hopefully good matchups tomorrow

just throw balance my way

[mighty stump]

@agile drift Is in Charlotte btw

[charred saddle]

oo new pp

[mighty stump]

Frfr

[agile drift]

Are you in the PC?

I’m here at table 31

[bold geode]

No you didn't bitch
Give credit to me and Throw
Mostly Throw

[near smelt]

Hey Tofu, do you know the full sheet of the Ttar team + Gothi? Was it with Flutter?

[mighty stump]

From Reg C, uhhh

Lemme go get it

I should have it

[charred saddle]

b-b-but, i was tinkering with it before it

different set tho

i think the first one was a dragon dance set

[bold geode]

DDance is alright
I prefer support with BE

[mighty stump]

Yeah I think everyone started with DDance

The coverage felt unimpactful

[bold geode]

Right

Meanwhile it gets good other moves like c'mon

[charred saddle]

ye

[mighty stump]

I think the mistake people were doing if youre going DDance

You have to go Flare Blitz

[charred saddle]

i thought that howl doesnt go through allies protect so ye

[mighty stump]

Otherwise you lose out too much damage

and I think you just lose your Dragon STAB altogether

[charred saddle]

Heatcrash is still buffed with the +1 no?

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

Yeah but Heat Crash is variable BP

[mighty stump]

sure

[charred saddle]

oh right yeah that makes a lot of sense

but i mean its a beeg mon so

the recoil puts me off tho

[mighty stump]

Id rather eat recoil, KO, and die

Rather than not eat recoil, not KO, die

[modern kayak]

i made a little team but something feels off abt it https://pokepast.es/30f6927983781b1d thoughts?

[supple ether]

Covert cloak on whimsicott is more popular, especially since yours only has tailwind+damage guaranteeing to live a hit is far less important than fake out pressure. Especially since fake out nullifies sash

[modern kayak]

good idea ty 👍

[supple ether]

A lot of the team is rain centric, which isnt necessarily bad but when you only have pelipper to set the rain it can be tricky to basically only have 3 pokemon to work with. At least damp.rock over helmet

Also consider wood hammer on rillaboom over knock off. Im not supet versed on the theory, but wood hammer+seed is usually what I see people run

[charred saddle]

sash is fine, but just go get ghost tera if u do

[supple ether]

Oh, also nobody has protect. Not that it's a hard and fast rule, but like 80% of all the teams Ive seen have sucess have multiple.pokemon with protect

Very valuable

[charred saddle]

as the above me said, FO can break sash, so you get ghost tera / protect for it

[modern kayak]

tyall for the valuable info and I'll see how it goes!

[charred saddle]

and iirc if u go covert cloak whims, i think its kinda better to get some bulk on it

since you will be tanking some damage with it rather then ghost tera and hogging the tera

https://pokepast.es/b33e497ba262a86a

as an example

but idk if its applicable to every other team tho

[real prairie]

Haze and Clear Smog the only stat reset moves available?

Had to deal with a ground tera water absorb acid armour clear mind stored power vaporeon earlier, I beat it but took longer than I wanted

[brazen bough]

wait you're already at charlotte?

im not gonna be there until saturday

well i mean ill be there today

[next stump]

do you live driving distance

[brazen bough]

yeah like 3 hours

[next stump]

ah yeah that’s why lol I had to fly

check in is gonna be crazy tomorrow be sure to get here by like 7:15-7:30

[brazen bough]

do they always have premier challenges before regionals

[next stump]

yeah it’s PC on friday and MSS on sunday

[brazen bough]

oh so i can just stay and play in the mss

if i do bad in the regional

thats perfect

[brazen bough]

ill probably be there soon like after i get out of school

[real prairie]

Does Haze reset Minimize?

[brazen bough]

it resets the board

i dont think its even possible for it to miss

[dapper crag]

Move: Haze

Resets the stat stages of all active Pokemon to 0.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

30 (48)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[chrome knot]

best of luck everyone attending charlotte

[brazen bough]

are you attending

[real prairie]

Lovely thanks @brazen bough

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to generaliavgc

[brazen bough]

?

[chrome knot]

nope, ill be at knoxville

[brazen bough]

what was i thanked for

[brazen bough]

you able to run sets or no?

i had like no time to play this week

[chrome knot]

no im omw home from work then goin to card shop to talk business abt windsors vgc sorry

[brazen bough]

ok

@mighty stump dyk why anyone would ever run tect over spiky

because in the winter challenge thats what the team im using used

he used tect on oger

[near smelt]

Gimme a ping when ya do 😮

[timber falcon]

after having a long time to think about it, ive come to the conclusion that smeargle is not the best option for vgc f

[tired sage]

of course not

[timber falcon]

but i really like him

though im keeping gholdengo

[tired sage]

most use it as a support anyways

[next stump]

thank you 🙂

[gentle crag]

mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[timber falcon]

btw what stats should i use on a full bulk fargiraf?

[next stump]

a lot just run max HP and max DEF

you can spec into some SpD if you want to live stuff from Flutter Mane

[chrome knot]

did you sneak into knox?

[real prairie]

Answering my Q lol

Are there any haze redirecters ?

Ideally to replace Amoongus

[next stump]

nope :/

[bold geode]

Charlotte starts tomorrow right?

[chrome knot]

rip

there was legit 7 spots

[timber falcon]

guys why would one choose amoongus over brute bonnet?

[chrome knot]

typing

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 591: Amoonguss

Types

Grass/Poison

Abilities

Effect Spore, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

114/85/70/85/80/30

Total

464

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Pokémon No. 986: Brute Bonnet

Types

Grass/Dark

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

111/127/99/79/99/55

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[chrome knot]

dont rly wanna pick up a few weaknesses for no reason

[bold geode]

Typing, Regenerator

[timber falcon]

oh i see, i just think that bonnet has some potential

[dapper crag]

Brute Bonnet's moveset:

Physical Moves

Astonish, Body Press, Body Slam, Bullet Seed, Close Combat, Crunch, Double-Edge, Facade, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Outrage, Payback, Seed Bomb, Stomping Tantrum, Sucker Punch, Thief, Thrash, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Absorb, Clear Smog, Dark Pulse, Earth Power, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Pollen Puff, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Venoshock

Status Moves

Confuse Ray, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Ingrain, Protect, Rage Powder, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spore, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Synthesis, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Brute Bonnet.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[bold geode]

It'd be hard in this economy lmao

[timber falcon]

i guess yeah, its typing is weak to almost every meta lol

[charred saddle]

good typing against flutters matchup

bonnet gets hit SE with flutter

and i think with 30 speed too its a very good TR mon

like in TR MU, it can hold and still pressure with spores

[tepid fiber]

how should i add to my team ?

Untitled 3

https://pokepast.es/bb965fc215e340c9

[karmic temple]

Need something to set tr for Luna to pop off

I personally like protect over tr on indeedee but that works too, but def need a second tr setter

[charred saddle]

with that i personally liked rockpon more, sturdy + follow me

[karmic temple]

Also for indeedee just got max/max hp def

[charred saddle]

then just do the normal psyspams

hattt or armarouge

and torkoal

torkoal + arm / hatt

then i think its the normal psyspam stuffs

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/7d248e82b6722a19 opinions on team? decided its about time i throw in some proper offense

also the 76 health evs on urshi might look wasted but ive tanked so many crucial hits on red cause of it

[charred saddle]

whylatias over torn?

[timber falcon]

its simple

latias is cooler

[charred saddle]

if it was me, ill do torn, rain dance + tw

prankster taunt helps too

then idk what to say

[timber falcon]

the truth is i have a shiny latias and wanna make use of it lol

[charred saddle]

gl

[timber falcon]

its been doing fine for now

and i like the bulk against other rapid strike shifus

[real prairie]

Okay that's 3 games in a row I've been done in by set up spamming, I need a hazer urgently 😭

How's a good hazer ATM? Chien pao?

[real prairie]

Don't know if it's powerful enough to sweep but is brick break over CC viable incase you play a screen setter

[timber falcon]

What format?

[mighty stump]

Chien-Pao as your Haze user kinda sucks

You have severe 4mss which means you either lose Sacred Sword, lose a real Dark STAB, or lose priority

[real prairie]

Yeah he was just the first that came to mind

[mighty stump]

And Protect is just a no-go to get rid of on Pao

[charred saddle]

jam 4 blm tdr?

[mighty stump]

Tai lu gw main PalWorld

wkwkwk

Baru ini, cuma ngecheck

[charred saddle]

game apa da itu

[mighty stump]

Baru keluar

[real prairie]

Just the current in-game ladder

[mighty stump]

Pokemon w Guns

[charred saddle]

ill check the game tomorrow

[mighty stump]

221k

[charred saddle]

bru libur semester

[timber falcon]

vgc reg f?

[charred saddle]

wtf

[mighty stump]

Mantab bang

[real prairie]

Yeh

[timber falcon]

people spam set up in that?

[mighty stump]

gw cuma bayar 160k karena jual kartu Steam

[real prairie]

Have been to me lol

[mighty stump]

Sehingga 60k

[timber falcon]

only set up i commonly see is dozo

[charred saddle]

dozo doesnteven setup

[mighty stump]

What sort of setup are you seeing anyways

If it’s Muk, I kinda get it

[charred saddle]

its the commander + orderup

[mighty stump]

But Sacred Sword does the job

[supple ether]

Muk spam

[charred saddle]

does sacred ignore accuracy?

[mighty stump]

If it’s Dozo, Haze also valid but its difficult for you to follow up after

[mighty stump]

Ignores stat changes

[charred saddle]

evasion i mean

[supple ether]

Muk actually a blight upon humanity

[mighty stump]

So yea

[charred saddle]

ye ye makes sense

[real prairie]

Muk, Fat bug thing with quiver dance, Vaporeon earth tera with raichu

Couple others I can't remember

[mighty stump]

Muk, Volcarona, and whatever Vaporeon thing, just write it off

[charred saddle]

i literally cried before playing that game

[mighty stump]

Gouging Fire is free into Muk

[supple ether]

Muk sucks asssss

[mighty stump]

Heat Crash does x2 damage and never misses against Minimise users

[charred saddle]

ye, just leanred that heatcrash to monimize is nice

[mighty stump]

I OHKOmd Tera Water Muk

Lmao

[charred saddle]

but its funny haha

[mighty stump]

Just dont click Heat Crash into the other slot

It will still miss against Flamigo

[charred saddle]

he forfeited t1 tho

[real prairie]

I've had about 6 games on the bounce now where it's been some sort of long torture game

[charred saddle]

after seeing gouging nite

[real prairie]

Porygon2 + sinistcha another one

That's less set up and more healing spam though

[mighty stump]

lul

[real prairie]

But yeah, who is the best viable haze user?

I don't think there is a single mon that can haze + redirect

[supple ether]

Clear smog also an option to consider

[charred saddle]

on top of my head

weezing, murkrow, milotic

idk the rest

[supple ether]

Armarouge

[charred saddle]

murk can also be the prankster tw too

im talking about haze, for smog its amoonguss

[supple ether]

If not for fakeout existing, murkrow would unironically be strong this fornat

[charred saddle]

why opt for support move in armarouge?

doesnt make any sense, some arm does wideguard to ensure tr going up

but idk about smog in arm

feels weird

and, i dont think FO is the problem to murkrow, its just that theres a lot more prankster tw user thats better

like murk is kinda forced to use eviolite

torn can run bulky set + rocky/covert

[knotty mirage]

Can neutralizing gas regigigas be viable on this reg ?

[charred saddle]

and whim is just whim

[real prairie]

I have clear Smog on my funguy but tera steel and tera steel 😭

[real prairie]

I've seen it a couple times, it's gimmicky at best

[knotty mirage]

Oh

[supple ether]

Ye, that's what I mean. By being forced to hold eviolite you lose out on the benefits the othet tw setters have

Notably; covert cloak

[real prairie]

Lots of holes to exploit, but if you catch people off guard could be fun , similar to anger point spam

[knotty mirage]

Well i do want to use it on ranked could work i guess

[cosmic gust]

Does anyone have like a basic competitive singles team

[knotty mirage]

And i guess i can add chien pao entei for back up

[real prairie]

I ran a scarf flower trick Smeargle with anger point in the blueberry cup 🤣

[timber falcon]

i have as much respect as fathomly possible for you

[real prairie]

It was a friendly cup so thought f it

[cosmic gust]

Does anyone have like a basic competitive singles team

[supple ether]

Smogon has some dont they?

[real prairie]

I had a little success with politoed eject button into a swift swim sweep

[knotty mirage]

Go to smogon for that i think

[supple ether]

Alternative: play doubles

Its better

[cosmic gust]

I know but I also like singles I am trying to build a team

[real prairie]

Sometimes we all want a break from thinking

[knotty mirage]

For single in games ladder just brute force tbh

[real prairie]

Doubles can give you brain ligma after a long session 🤣😭

[cosmic gust]

Facts

[knotty mirage]

It work for me at least with dragon dance scale shot gouging fire for easy match

[real prairie]

I wish the ladder was best of 3, random teams catching you off guard with unknown mons on 1 offs absolutely kills ladder records

Can't be expected to know every single mon 😭

I'm not @mighty stump

[cosmic gust]

Good

[real prairie]

Be nice now boys and girls

[cosmic gust]

Hey he was a asshole to me earlyier

[dull haven]

[cosmic gust]

Hi

[bold geode]

Lmao hi Khuja

[dull haven]

Hello

[real prairie]

Not to be the parent type here but doesn't matter who started what lol kill them with kindness ☺️

[cosmic gust]

Or with dynamax cannon

[dull haven]

I was about to say, best to move on at this point to keep the chat rolling in a friendly/constructive manner

[gloomy matrix]

muk and smeargle are all over the meta 💀

[bold geode]

Yes and they should die

[gloomy matrix]

nah

[molten cedar]

Honestly I made one myself and just decided in the end to cancel the battle even though I would have won just because of the guy’s determination for dealing with this bs for 20 minutes

[real prairie]

It's hell incarnate

[gloomy matrix]

yea it is kinda bs

but i just got cooked by this team

[real prairie]

It is the kinda thing that will literally have pros slapping guaranteed hit moves in their team

Can Raging Bolt learn Shockwave 👀

Calm mind shockwave 🤣 f you Muk

[molten cedar]

Let me check

It does

[gloomy matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663757541343363073/1198017685011837069/image0.gif?ex=65bd5fea&is=65aaeaea&hm=2a212a9b5a1a0d1259ef4635867b4cd89c64f86ec8339ca0f2f7345436cde027&=

[molten cedar]

It’s still low base power and Muk is very specially bulky and it can also get moody boosts so… you better bring him out quick

[timber falcon]

Taunt?

Why not just taunt muk

Exactly what I did

[molten cedar]

Follow me and fake out:

[timber falcon]

Fake out is countered easily

Ghost Tera a mon and boom

And taunt stops follow me

[real prairie]

Muk is dark type and can't be taunted

[molten cedar]

But you still get one turn for setup and you can also waste your Tera into a knock off weak type

[molten cedar]

Only prankster though

[timber falcon]

Exactly

[molten cedar]

No prankster taunt works

[real prairie]

Really?! Oh wow fair enough

Thought it was taunt in general

[timber falcon]

Nah it’s just taint is rly good for prankster mons

[molten cedar]

But the actual Muk counter is clear smog

[timber falcon]

Follow me

[molten cedar]

Just kill smeargle

Clear smog has no accuracy check

He can set up as much as he’d like

As long as you have clear smog you can just remove all the minimizes

And moody too

[bold geode]

Honestly Smeargle Muk is easy to fight
I just fucking hate gimmicks and well that's the gimmick of all of em

I shall pray on your downfall if you use Smeargle Muk

[weak sparrow]

Doing online battles for the first time, is there a map/list of which US states are in which region?

[bold geode]

Idk
Probably just look it up on Google or whatever

[next stump]

it’s pretty inconsequential when you register

just take your best guess

[molten cedar]

Honestly I feel Muk Smeargle works better without costar flamigo and psych up latias, it just pairs well with other mons like Ogerpon-Wellspring and other stuff that doesn’t have to abuse muk’s evasiveness boosts to be good

[bold geode]

I've seen it before without that yeah
But still it's shit, and I will pray on your downfall if you use it

[gloomy matrix]

anyone got some single battle teams?

cant find any reg f on yt

[molten cedar]

I used it once and gave my opponent the win but still posted rental, am I in your hit list?

[bold geode]

Yes

[molten cedar]

Gosh dang it

[bold geode]

Watch your back

[supple ether]

Not if I beat you to it

[bold geode]

Oh if you deal with him that's fine
Saves me the trouble

[molten cedar]

Welcome to the first annual hitman competiton! The prize for the winner is killing a Muk Smeargle user!

[bold geode]

BEST CONTEST EVER

[supple ether]

https://tenor.com/view/yumm-delicious-gif-18409602

Delicious

[bold geode]

Exactly what I wanted for Christmas
The head of a Smeargle Muk player above my mantle

Also looking at that rental, I see no Burning Bulwark
That's what I've seen more than Spiky, but Spiky works

[molten cedar]

Honestly I haven’t gotten my hands on Gouging Fire yet but I might change Smeargle and edit the post with a new rental when I do, only have raging bolt rn, traded with a friend for one of my shiny gimmighouls

[bold geode]

Ah yeah
Bear in mind Bulwark doesn't block status moves

[molten cedar]

Really? Then at least that makes it so there’s at least some use to Spiky Shield instead of burning bulwark

[bold geode]

Right
Like the thing is right
The reason why Bulwark is still valuable on Gouging is because mons who make contact get burned, so it punishes physical attackers even more

[real prairie]

Shame Glimmora can't learn baneful bunker, seems like it should

[bold geode]

Nah it's fine

[real prairie]

I'm right in thinking poison doesn't lower stats like Para and Burn

Something made me think it lowered SpD

[bold geode]

Yeah it don't, it just chips health

[molten cedar]

Normal poison sucks

But badly poisoning someone? That’s epic

It just keeps on stacking

[real prairie]

Corrosion toxic for muk counter

[molten cedar]

Wait if you pair corrosion mon with Muk and use power of alchemy…
The only thing strong enough to beat Muk… is MUK!

[bold geode]

Nah Toxic Debris always better

[molten cedar]

Salazzle also gets corrosion

But salazzle sucks so…

[real prairie]

I was joking lol pigeon hole your whole team as a muk counter is not my best advise lol

[molten cedar]

Everybody in my team is a Muk counter
Corrosion Salazzle
Corrosion Glimmora
Clear Smog Amoonguss
Sacred Sword Chien-Pao
Haze Murkrow
Sacred Sword Gallade
Please send help

For legal purposes this is a joke

[real prairie]

Haze and sacred sword chien pao just to be double safe

[molten cedar]

Yeah, maybe the Muk is Tera ghost

Guys since we’re already here let’s answer one of life’s greatest questions:
Mirror Match Muk Smeargle, do the players have the right to be annoyed at the opponent?

[real prairie]

😂

Worlds longest game

[molten cedar]

Actually it would be as long as a normal Muk Smeargle battle with only one using it since the time limit is still 20 minutes

[real prairie]

True

Lol

[molten cedar]

Will both try to stall their time at the end or will neither do it?

That is the Smeargle Muk mirror match dilemma

Actually fun fact Alolan Muk learns haze

[real prairie]

🤣

[molten cedar]

Honestly the funniest part of my one battle using Smeargle Muk was the opponent using Tera fairy flutter mane and me just OHKOing it with poison jab before it could even move

[real prairie]

Something very satisfying about shutting down flutters

[molten cedar]

Moody speed and attack for the win

[real prairie]

I can feel the angst through the screen when I use my flutter with imprison

[molten cedar]

Do you use booster speed or sp. atk?

[real prairie]

Speed

But also often lead it with prankster tailwind

[molten cedar]

Well then mine is screwed if you run it with speed evs higher than 116+

[real prairie]

That's the idea lol

[molten cedar]

Which you probably do

Hey look at the bright side I can still protect

[real prairie]

Why tf is the only electric surge Mon pincushion

And yes I've intentionally misspelt that

[molten cedar]

Do you mean Pincookie?

[real prairie]

Rising voltage seems so good, stab+double damage+ ET boost + rain boost

[molten cedar]

Bellibolt should have gotten electric surge

[real prairie]

PoGo is mocking me

[mighty stump]

I don't know if you intend to share your email there, but I thought I might point that out

[real prairie]

It's a spam email, you lot feel like adding to the spam, go nuts

But no it wasn't intentional

And actually I don't want to tempt you as I feel like you just might

[molten cedar]

Don’t worry it didn’t load for me

[real prairie]

Cheers for flagging @mighty stump

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[molten cedar]

For some reason I’m slow as hell it just loaded now

[real prairie]

Did me deleting it not delete for E1? 😭

[molten cedar]

Don’t worry I’m talking about the gif

[real prairie]

Hahah you need new WiFi

[molten cedar]

Honestly I should just probably move the charger since this spot doesn’t pick up WiFi that well

But I really need to take part in that, specially since my friend finally got Scarlet + the dlc now that it’s all out so I can trade with him to evolve

[real prairie]

I'm happy to help with any trades if needed too

Only Electric Terrain prankster is Thundurus right?

Who doesn't get tailwind

[molten cedar]

Maybe mixed electric terrain + rain can work

[real prairie]

Lose speed control though

[molten cedar]

Yeah that’s valid

[real prairie]

Thinking it's daft to bring archdon, iron hands and Raging Bolt

[molten cedar]

What about Iron Leaves? It has grass for ground types and a signature psychic move boosted by Electric Terrain

And of course it also has quark drive

[real prairie]

Interesting, what's it's bulk like as it would need to be my electric terrain setter

[molten cedar]

90/88/108

Every single stat is higher than thundurus

Only problem is it doesn’t get Prankster

[real prairie]

But it can be led with Torn and get tailwind off

Risk getting fake out but that's always a risk

Slow set lead with Amoongus for rage powder

[molten cedar]

Well it has a decent 104 base speed

[real prairie]

Now the tough part, getting hold of one 🤣😭

[molten cedar]

Why did they have to be raid exclusive? It just makes it harder to get one when it’s not available :p

[real prairie]

Not only raid exclusive but also version exclusive, so I'd have to join someone else's raid

Might have to sacrifice my walking wake and do the Dex code trade and run away with their iron leaves 🤣😭

[molten cedar]

I’m proud of owning both on the respective best balls no argument
Dusk and Dive

[mighty stump]

Do not do that.

[real prairie]

Joking

I'm not that mean

[mighty stump]

Plus, since they're event raids, they're arguably the easiest of the three respectively to get

[molten cedar]

Honestly I got my raging bolt for a shiny gimmighoul. Please do not run off with someone’s version exclusive if they’re doing it for dex.

[real prairie]

No obviously don't

I was very much kidding

[molten cedar]

Okay then

[molten cedar]

Honestly I lost my second miraidon in a dex trade but I named it YouJerk.com so I’ll forever also find it funny

[tough idol]

@real prairie you need an Iron Leaves?

[tough idol]

I have a few Leaves and about 3 spare Wakes. Multiple accounts and replays

[real prairie]

Yes plz

What you want in return?

[tough idol]

Not overly fussed tbh. I only caught the extra Leaves because I could. Thrown them in a box to gather dust

[mighty stump]

Arrange your trades in a different channel or via DMs please

[smoky hawk]

Look at how I turned this around after a disastrous turn 1. My priority spam team.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2039383815

[real prairie]

Sure sorry, can you add me it won't let me add you @tough idol

[molten cedar]

Did you get the iron leaves

?

[real prairie]

Not yet lol

[molten cedar]

I now have officially zero shiny gimmighoul, never liked gholdengo that much anyways lol

At least not enough to collect another 999 gimmighoul coins just to get another gholdengo

The good news: I have Gouging Fire!

[tough idol]

If you've not been to the Towers for a while, you'll have 999 available

[molten cedar]

Yeah I know, it’s just Shiny Gholdengo is so bad and I’d rather use the one I already have than waste time to evolve the shiny one

[tough idol]

You sure the GF is legitimate also, seems a one sided trade

Since shiny Ghimmi is bad

[molten cedar]

Yep, OT, IVs and location are all alright and plus shiny gimmighoul is kinda rare, even though the server hosted so many raids while it was active

[karmic temple]

I mean as long as the gf has 20 ivs in all stats let’s call it legit

Meanwhile the one I got in a trade was perfect ivs 🥲

[supple ether]

traded one of the legit rarest shinies in the game for GF happy you got your boi at least, so thats always a plus

[outer dagger]

The unbelievably lackluster shiny sprite (should’ve been full silver/diamond) and the most tedious evo method ever is why I have 6 shiny ghim from the event sitting in home untouched. Rather use all my ev berries to reset each meta than look for more of those chests

[lofty tartan]

There's a map where all the chests spawn - took me less than an hour each to evolve 3 more

[outer dagger]

Each have a low percent to spawn and sometimes (most of the the time for me) only give 30 coins

[lofty tartan]

And some can give higher - I've gotten a 200 drop before.

And are you 100% on the "chance to spawn"? They have respawn timers.

[outer dagger]

I swear it’s a 5% chance to respawn each day

[lofty tartan]

No way.

Not even remotely that low lol. I've evolved 3 more Gimmighouls into Gholdengo. If they were all ~5% chance to spawn, I would not have done that as fast as I did.

All information I'm finding on Gimmighoul chest spawns lists nothing about a rate to spawn.

I can link you the map, or a list that shows where each is and what level each one is, and their average drops

It really doesn't take long to evolve one if you use the available resources

Like each chest drops at minimum 50 and 13 chests on are top of towers. There are 25 chest form Gimmighouls in total.

[mighty stump]

Its like a roll of a range of 10-80

but its fairly quick

[lofty tartan]

Yeah at that point I started reading off this information on this site I'm seeing that shows a minimum drop, but I do know i have gotten a few sorta lower, but I've gotten a few also way over 80

I've had a 200 coin drop from a single chest before.

[outer dagger]

5% chance for each chest each day is what the (what I consider) reliable sites say

[mighty stump]

I vaguely remember 5% seen on Serebii

But it’s negligible since you can just time skip

All but guaranteed, really

[outer dagger]

If your chests drop a min of 50 i am so jealous aha

Just wondering what the consensus Tera is for it. I still prefer steel

[mighty stump]

Dragon