competitive_discussion

[bronze vessel]

dusk mane

[scarlet otter]

That's not allowed right now

[tough idol]

It's banned outside of Casual

[scarlet otter]

It's banned it won't let you use it

[bronze vessel]

its fine

[scarlet otter]

K Dusk Mane it is

You want an offensive or deffensive set?

[bronze vessel]

offensive ig

[tough idol]

Whole new ballgame when you bring every mon into it including Koraidon and Miraidon lol 😆

[scarlet otter]

I got a sheet filled with all the sets I used so I'll just transfer what I think matches

You want to set it up or just hit hard?

[bronze vessel]

i traded my miraidon away

[bronze vessel]

hit hard

[scarlet otter]

K

Any good tera types for Dusk Mane?

Only thing I don't have since I built this set on gen 8

[bronze vessel]

u asking what tera it is rn?

[scarlet otter]

No what you want to make it

[bronze vessel]

oh

prob the same as it is rn

psychic

[scarlet otter]

I think steel is better

[bronze vessel]

k

i was thinking that

[scarlet otter]

Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Assault Vest
Ability: Prism Armor
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Knock Off
• Sunsteel Strike
• Earthquake
• Stone Edge

Just copy this

[bronze vessel]

k

[scarlet otter]

Then go to Pokemon showdown and import it

With the button top right

What's your next Pokemon?

[bronze vessel]

my laptop keep freezing and its so annoying

garden pattern vivillon

[scarlet otter]

This is for status moves right?

[bronze vessel]

yeah

it has shield dust tho

[tough idol]

You'll probably want to change that to Compound Eyes

[scarlet otter]

Vivillon-Fancy @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 126 Def / 4 SpA / 126 SpD
Serious Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Sleep Powder
• Pollen Puff
• Rage Powder
• Protect

[scarlet otter]

Another set ready

[bronze vessel]

i used my only ability capsule

to make it compound eyes

[scarlet otter]

Yep that's the ability we want

The thing is prefferably you want a 0IV Vivillon

But it's not neccesary

Next mon?

I'll explain each mon after we get team done with

@bronze vessel next mon?

[bronze vessel]

empoleon

[scarlet otter]

Ooof, I don't have any VGC sets for that

Lemme make one quick

[bronze vessel]

k

[scarlet otter]

This singles one I used should still work

[tough idol]

@scarlet otter there's a Tofu spread in rentals I believe

[scarlet otter]

I mean it's crazy old but seems decent

[scarlet otter]

Oh wait where is it?

Oh found it

Doesn't fit the team but some changes can work

[bronze vessel]

whats a tofu spread

[tough idol]

Tofu is one of the staff here, makes a lot of teams

[bronze vessel]

oh

[scarlet otter]

I don't find any way to fit in the Empoleon

[bronze vessel]

i could change it

[scarlet otter]

We would need to backtrack and make a small change to Necrozma

Just change the item and it will work

Just give Necrozma Choice Band

[bronze vessel]

k

[scarlet otter]

Empoleon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Competitive
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 172 HP / 76 Def / 228 SpA / 4 SpD / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Flash Cannon
• Ice Beam
• Vacuum Wave
• Water Pledge

Seems like a meta counter

Being able to deal with Urshifu

Landorous

Rilaboom

@bronze vessel next mon?

[bronze vessel]

kingambit

[scarlet otter]

Ohhh probably the MVP

[bronze vessel]

(its not sadly)

its shiny but im not the OT

someone put max EVs into attack and hp and nothing else

[scarlet otter]

You can reset the evs

[tough idol]

Rayo is saying its probably the best mon on the team

[scarlet otter]

Those are for raids

[bronze vessel]

my kingambit is kinda weak

[scarlet otter]

Just needs training

[bronze vessel]

how do i reset EVs

[scarlet otter]

With Fresh Start Mochi

[bronze vessel]

a i forgot abt that

done

also i need an ability patch

my kingambit has uh PRESSURE

[scarlet otter]

@bronze vessel actually max HP and Attack evs are the ones we need

[bronze vessel]

which is the worst ability for kingambit

[bronze vessel]

are you kidding me

[tough idol]

That's its Hidden Ability. So yh you need a patch

[scarlet otter]

No, you got lucky

[tough idol]

They just reset them lol

[bronze vessel]

how am i lucky i used the mochi

[scarlet otter]

Sorry man

[scarlet otter]

Kingambit @ Black Glasses
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Sucker Punch
• Kowtow Cleave
• Iron Head
• Swords Dance

This set keeps being thrown around here and I think it's pretty good

Combined with Vivillon it can cause some chaos

@bronze vessel next mon?

[bronze vessel]

meowscarada

can u just dm me the rest the last mon is palafin

i gotta go sleep its midnight

[scarlet otter]

Meowscarada @ Choice Band
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Flower Trick
• Knock Off
• Play Rough
• Petal Blizzard

[scarlet otter]

Sure I'll DM you the Meowscarda and Palafin and write you some notes for each mon so you understand them

[bronze vessel]

k

cya also ty for helping me

[scarlet otter]

Np

[tough idol]

Enjoying this stream match

[raw berry]

Can anyone help me revise my competitive team?

[bold geode]

What is it

[scarlet otter]

Could I see it?

[raw berry]

https://pokepast.es/da517a78d3de3906

[scarlet otter]

Why Tera Ground Land-T?

[nocturne holly]

@bold geode has some flutter spreads, this is a great archa spread
Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 220 SpA / 28 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature

• Flash Cannon
• Draco Meteor
• Thunderbolt
• Body Press

[raw berry]

I forgot to change the tera type

[scarlet otter]

You already have Stompting Tantrum no need for tera ground blast

[raw berry]

The plan is flying tera

[scarlet otter]

That's good

[nocturne holly]

it looks pretty standard other than some soreads

[scarlet otter]

Archaludon seems good

Apart from Archaludon it's just a pretty META revolvant team

Maybe Archaludon could be swapped for Incineroar?

Or something else that is as bulky

[nocturne holly]

I think archaludon is kinda fine on this

[scarlet otter]

It's fine but Incineroar could give some better support

[raw berry]

I already have lando-t, so incineroar wouldn’t be too great

[nocturne holly]

actually you might wanna use a different archa spread since this is the

[nocturne holly]

archa isn’t trying to support

[raw berry]

Maybe I could swap incineroar for lando?

[scarlet otter]

Maybe I think that would be better

[nocturne holly]

Incin would be fine on this
if you really don’t like both you could do lando I over lando t

[scarlet otter]

And Ogerpon could replace Archaludon

To make the core deffensive trio

Also Ogerpon is in general a pretty good mon

Both as a support or attacker

[nocturne holly]

monke has arrived

[bold geode]

Would like to see those bulkier spreads on Mane Archaludon and Urshifu but overall it's all fine

[scarlet otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-pokemon-ogerpon-persona-5-group-chat-gif-2379131978984132260

[raw berry]

Alr

Tysm for the help

[weary steeple]

Hey all I have a math question

[scarlet otter]

np

[scarlet otter]

Yeah?

[weary steeple]

Literally math question. I want to figure out how to calculate the miss chance of moves consecutively. So like how would I do that?

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/1fcbe709cfa4896d
Here's Flutter bulk calcs, spatk and speed up to you
That Arch spread is good and Urshifu tweak as you go

[weary steeple]

Like the odds of landing 3 hydro pumps in a row

[nocturne holly]

Exponents

-calc 0.8^3

[gentle crag]

Result: 0.512000

[nocturne holly]

51%

[kindred cypress]

Hey, does kingdra got anything going for it in terms of competitive viability, or is it just plain bad?

[nocturne holly]

it has swift swim

[scarlet otter]

-calc 0.8^1

[gentle crag]

Result: 0.800000

[nocturne holly]

it can play similarly to basc

[weary steeple]

So wide lens triple axel will be 97%

[scarlet otter]

80% yet Stone Edge still misses every time

[dapper crag]

Move: Triple Axel

Hits three times. Power increases to 40 for the second hit and 60 for the third. This move checks accuracy for each hit, and the attack ends if the target avoids a hit. If one of the hits breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the remaining hits. If the user has the Skill Link Ability, this move will always hit three times.

Type

Ice

Category

Physical

Power

20

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[nocturne holly]

-calc (0.9*1.1)^3

[gentle crag]

Result: 0.970299

[scarlet otter]

-calc 0.7^5

[gentle crag]

Result: 0.168070

[nocturne holly]

yea

[scarlet otter]

17% and yet they still hit me 5 times with focus

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 230: Kingdra

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Swift Swim, Sniper, Damp (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/95/95/95/95/85

Total

540

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[weary steeple]

Unfortunate

[kind ember]

Prankster spore is so silly!

[scarlet otter]

Anybody got any ideas here: https://pokepast.es/46f05ad994d82410

Yes I did use the top 6 most used reg F mons, sue me I like winning and ruining kid's days

[weary steeple]

Thank you!

[gentle crag]

hazyholo has given 1 Gen Rep to .begulajr.

[nocturne holly]

np

[nocturne holly]

Tera dark and mental herb kinda serve the same purpose, could switch items or Tera

[kindred cypress]

Try Tera water for urshi, and run choice scarf, and ghost for torn

[scarlet otter]

Any ideas to switch raging bolt?

[bold geode]

Scarf the Shifu or run Mystic
CB is kinda eh on Rapid

[kind ember]

I HATE STUPID STRING CHEESE MAN

[bold geode]

Prankster Spore not so good now huh

[kind ember]

😭

[kindred cypress]

This isn’t competitive rant, this is competitive discussion

[scarlet otter]

Any ways to switch Raging Bolt?

[kindred cypress]

Why would you, he’s pretty good on his own

[bold geode]

Let's not make these comments

Yeah Bolt looks fine here

[scarlet otter]

I don't have him and he I don't want to reset SV to get it

[bold geode]

Trade lol

[scarlet otter]

Guess it's time to release the weapon

[bold geode]

Huh

[kindred cypress]

The totally legit not hacked shiny calyrex

[scarlet otter]

Yay 1st Bolt I built is good

[nocturne holly]

If you really done bolt, chien or ogerpon could work

That lost slot is over flexible

Lando I could work

[scarlet otter]

Tera Dark, Covert Clock Lando works right?

[nocturne holly]

You mean tornadus?

[scarlet otter]

Yep lol

[nocturne holly]

Yea that’s fine

[bold geode]

That's fine

[scarlet otter]

Any tera types for Urshifu?

Only good play I had with Poison was tanking a FM Dazzling Gleam

[bold geode]

Technically you can do the same with Water
Grass ain't bad rn either

[scarlet otter]

K I'll run Water

[near crag]

what is the value of glimmora, if not spikes?

[scarlet otter]

Tank, spikes

[near crag]

it isn't remarcably bulky, and it never even heard of either urshifu or lando

[near crag]

I also run water, but there is bolt running around in 25% of teams, so Idk if it is the best option nowadays

[nocturne holly]

I’m running grass rn for bolt

but if you do that you have to make that turn impactful

[scarlet otter]

I'm talking about Urshifu

[nocturne holly]

Yea ik lol
grass on shifu resists thunderclap

[scarlet otter]

True

But extra stab sounds nice

[dense minnow]

What's a good spread for sun prankster whimsi for doubles

[scarlet otter]

What are you running?

Moves and ability

@dense minnow depends what are you looking for

If it is a sun setter whimsi then this should satisfy

Whimsicott @ Heat Rock
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 152 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature

• Sunny Day
• Moonblast
• U-turn
• Memento

Basically just sun setter that switches with memento/u-turn

[dense minnow]

Prob prankster
encore
sunny day
moonblast
something else

[scarlet otter]

This should work then

[near crag]

How viable is g zapdos?

[dense minnow]

Why memento?

[scarlet otter]

Not that good

[dense minnow]

I'm not a big fan of that move

could I just throw encore on?

[scarlet otter]

Free switch and nerfs enemy requiring them to switch which you can use to set up

[scarlet otter]

Singles or Doubles?

It sucks in Doubles

And while it's not the best can still be run in singles

A simple spread like this:

Zapdos-Galar @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Flying
Jolly Nature

• Close Combat
• Brave Bird
• Knock Off
• U-turn

Should allow some damage from g zapdos

[near crag]

thanks

[scarlet otter]

np

Ooops forgot tera type

[near crag]

ghost seem to be a good option

[scarlet otter]

I wouldn't agree I would prefer fighting

The close combats would hit very hard

If you want to run tera ghost you might prefer this spread

[near crag]

the only problem is dazzling gleam

btw, steel might be the best option

bc it loses all of its weaknessess

[scarlet otter]

Zapdos-Galar @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 126 Def / 126 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Knock Off
• Brave Bird
• Close Combat
• Rest

It isn't anything good and is more of a stretch

[molten oasis]

We’ve been dead for 2 hours wow

[scarlet otter]

Tera steel is better for this spread

[scarlet otter]

But generally this spread is beet

[near crag]

I'm running it with dnite, so scarf on this spread may be better

[scarlet otter]

Yep I agree

[scarlet otter]

What do you mean?

[molten oasis]

Or not

Jeez my phone is lagging like no other

[scarlet otter]

I made 2 Charizard spreads

Charizard @ Life Orb
Ability: Solar Power
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Flare Blitz
• Fly
• Earthquake

Charizard @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Solar Power
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 146 Def / 110 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Belly Drum
• Flare Blitz
• Fly
• Rest

Why did I chose to make them physical?
IDK I was bored in gen 8 and just did stupid builds

Is it any good? Of course not

[nocturne holly]

Yea it definitely is, don’t blame you if you choose that

you can go for a bulkier spread if you do Tera water

I wanna try tofus bulky mystic water spread

[near crag]

Does any pokemon benefit for having "no nature"?

[nocturne holly]

Probably not

[near crag]

The only cenario in which that could happen, is if there is a bulky mixed attacker, that also didn't want to lose speed. That's a bit too specific

[tough coral]

Would someone be able to help me finish off my comp team? I'm tryna make a rain team rn. Currently I've got Pelipper Archaludon and Basculegion not sure what to add to assist this.

[bold geode]

I question myself every time I come in here

[next stump]

made day 2 Portland 🙂

[bold geode]

You were in Portland sir?

[fading valve]

Would a Scale Shot DD Loaded Dice set work on Roaring Moon? If so, then what coverage move and Tera would work best?

[nocturne holly]

W Dillon
I better see you on stream tmr

[bold geode]

Nah
Just Dance and then do like Knock Off, Acrobatics, or Dclaw

Breaking Swipe is also there

[fading valve]

what about for singles?

[bold geode]

Idk then

[fading valve]

Charizard just doesn't work with gimmicky movesets. It's good in PU and it isn't the only popular starter in that tier (Decidueye comes to mind)

[forest arrow]

Congrats! You got this!

[tough idol]

GG @next stump

[nocturne holly]

Dillon going straight to worlds with this regional win 😈

[silver ravine]

Hey Sour. For Incineroar, would it being Careful and not Impish be that much of a difference?

Gratz and gl Dillion!

[smoky hawk]

What where were you? I was there

And congrats!

[next stump]

Thank you all 🙂 Unfortunately I had to drop because my flight home is at 7AM tomorrow but it was fun playing and getting some points

7-2 has a really tough time in day 2 anyways

[silver ravine]

Careful vs Impish

[smoky hawk]

Damn we should've met up

I went 6-3

[nocturne holly]

That’s still great

[smoky hawk]

I was 0-2 after round 2

So I really got my act together

[nocturne holly]

Fr you pulled it back

[supple ether]

[near smelt]

Can Electabuzz be enough of a redirector for Iron Boulder?

Also providing electric terrain?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 125: Electabuzz

Type

Electric

Abilities

Static, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/83/57/95/85/105

Total

490

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Pokémon No. 467: Magmortar

Type

Fire

Abilities

Flame Body, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/95/67/125/95/83

Total

540

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[gentle crag]

Reminder for @mighty stump

Reminder from YAGPDB

check rental

[shell sandal]

what is the best tera type for glimmora? is it grass

[near smelt]

With evolite of course

[shell sandal]

bro im genuinely asking

[near smelt]

Oh no this was part of my earlier question not a rip on yours 😭

[shell sandal]

ohhhh alr alr

[bold geode]

It's Grass

[nocturne holly]

ok so I watched a little bit of black Adam again

dr fate is like the only good part of the movie

https://tenor.com/view/dr-fate-ligma-gif-9810728702000526499

[supple ether]

Magmar and electabuzz are shockingly bulky with eviolite. Idk about electric terrain necessarily, but definitely a good follow me user. Of course both slots are vulnerable to strong ground type attacks (landorous for example is a major threat), and without clear amulet/cloak you're vulnerable to incineroar or other intimidators.

[kind ember]

I just spent 10 minutes trying to figure why spore wasn’t working on dark type Pokémon

[mighty stump]

They dont really run any offensive move you care about though, since its only ever like EWeb + 3 Util on Electabuzz for example

Since you run Protect for those FO leads

[near smelt]

FO?

[dawn crown]

what is the most common incin set

[supple ether]

Fakeout

[supple ether]

The nerdofnow vgc calculator has it. EV spreads might be a little diffetent, but geberal idea is very bulky+sitrus berry, intimidate; fake out+Blitz/Knock off + disruptive moves

[dawn crown]

ty

[gentle crag]

delta1o7 has given 1 Gen Rep to chef_h.

[mighty stump]

Use the one in my blog, the calced one is non standard physical bulk

[karmic temple]

Tofu your flutter spread is nice

Survived with 4hp and had a complete comeback

[mighty stump]

Perf

I dont see no Fraudcanine

[mighty stump]

Fat Flutter? yer

My Fat FM spreads have been nutty

[karmic temple]

Yis

[mighty stump]

I had an old god spread that still is relevant til now from Reg C

[karmic temple]

It was way bulkier than I thought but it’s so nice

[supple ether]

Oh ayo I didnt know you had a blog 👀

Emboar being mentioned automatically makes it top tier

From the top mons, bug types seem good rn 🤔 are there any good bug types though? Does araquanid qualify

[mighty stump]

Ou yeah its in the pins cause its Reg F forst draft sets

I plonked down for two days straight for all nighters making the sets and writing it up

and ill probably do another one and make a team post for content and a meta one

Ive been running one since Reg C

[mighty stump]

Volcarona

Araquanid doesnt even OHKO standard Incin with Liquidation at Neutral

[supple ether]

Yeah 70atk is kinda

Could be interesting in trick room with lunge and pounce though ig

Vikavolt seems good tho, lots of coverage high atk and not super frail

Only weak to fire and rock (unless Im missing something)

[mighty stump]

Water Bubble is the main thing

Vikavolt is electric coverage indeed

[rancid matrix]

@mighty stump sorry for the tag bang, i want to ask regarding the team that u suggest me (the TR one, hope u still remember it). Oh yeah, the team performs well but about hatterene, on which case should i use it over armarouge?

[mighty stump]

Although id consider why not run Raging Bolt in TR alongside cause you have priority there

[supple ether]

True

Im running thru the bugs rn... Galvantula has all those base stat points but its so useless

[mighty stump]

Sometimes people bring both; Hatt mainly uses the Fairy coverage to get rid of dark types

[mighty stump]

Lmao

Honestly

If you go Specs Thunder with

Whatever the accuracy boost ability is

[rancid matrix]

So far i brought sylv instead when facing dark types

[mighty stump]

Thunder/Volt Switch/Bug STAB/Tera Blast

[mighty stump]

Or if you need something slower, like lets say you see Ursaluna on opposing team

since Hatt is 0 Spe

but yeah you have Sylveon

Also

Hatt is useful to avoid Spores

So if you need to avoid Taunts/Spores

Assuming thats their gameplan

Which is to like

Take out Indeedee/Taunt Arma or something

Alternatively Armarouge is better into Incin to get the free KO with Meteor Beam

Its all about redundancy too

if Hatt comes in late game healthy, its another TR setter

[rancid matrix]

Ah i see

[rancid matrix]

yeah the meteor beam is very useful ro get rid incin

only if it lands

[mighty stump]

90% accuracy has been lying to you too huh

[rancid matrix]

yep

also what about iron hands

i rarely use it too so far

[mighty stump]

Fake Out lead pressure so you dont have to immediately lead Indeedee

then just deals consistent damage and overall hard to remove

[supple ether]

Am I safe to write off slither wing and frost moth? They both could be good, but their typings I think really hurt them too much

[rancid matrix]

ah i see, make sense

So far i always lead with indeedee so i didn't manage to use hands that much

[mighty stump]

Well, with Slithierwing you could@always shoehorn it in Sun with AV Tera Fire but theyre not great

[rancid matrix]

as always, thank you tofu

[supple ether]

Damn, kleavor's bad too

It really just be araquanidwith a semi-supportive set and vikavolt for offense

Rest in piss bug types good lord

[rancid matrix]

kinda offtopic but, tofu is ur dm open if i want to ask about thing or two using bahasa

[upper fulcrum]

I see they still haven’t added a hacker report to ranked yet

Fucking sick

[supple ether]

I think they have an autodetect in place if its any consolation

[upper fulcrum]

Lmfao clown show here things his garg lives +2 cc from iron Terrakion

This world has no room for blatant cheaters

[bold geode]

Can we not

[upper fulcrum]

Non report function online, where else am I supposed to

Mighty cleave is 100 accurate, missed two in a row

100% pure hacking skill

[bold geode]

Maybe just shut up and accept the fact you lost
Cheating or not, if you don't know wtf you're doing, you can't win
Whether it's you or someone else
Game isn't that easy
As for the misses, whatever
Quiet down and move on to the next game

[dapper crag]

Move: Mighty Cleave

Bypasses protection without breaking it.

Type

Rock

Category

Physical

Power

95

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[upper fulcrum]

Thx for confirming this guy is cheating

[supple ether]

could be a bright powder moderately defensive garganacl. Would explain it.

[bold geode]

Honestly if you blame everything on they're cheating, you're not getting any better
Just saying

That's the easy way out

Always look to improve

[upper fulcrum]

Lmfao dual tera now

[mighty stump]

Araquanid just offense

[mighty stump]

Cool, take it out of this channel and rant about it to people who care

I have 0 tolerance for this whole “i beat a cheater” showboating cause it’s non-productive, and the “advantages” don’t even exist

[upper fulcrum]

These guys should stick to showdown where cheating is okay

[mighty stump]

Atp it’s just “I’m jealous their Pokemon is a different colour”

Oh

Okay

[bold geode]

Not to mention it just sounds whiny as hell

Lmao this guy

Popcorn time

[mighty stump]

That your final answer?

[bold geode]

[mighty stump]

Cause then you definitely shouldn’t be here

[supple ether]

I was looking at leech life users and grimsnarl is actually interestibng. At adamant max attack, it picks up 2HKOs on almost everything beteeen leech/lashout/play rough, and % to OHKO on a few different top mons. Thoughts on viability?

[rancid matrix]

[supple ether]

I was considering some wacky bulldoze lashout set

[bold geode]

Guys don't upload pokepastes
They come from Showdown so you're cheating

[upper fulcrum]

Game really turned into shit when swsh transitioned to sv, back then cheaters were basically non existent and the meta was much healthier

[gentle crag]

⚠ Warned inizilla

[mighty stump]

Since you’re only looking for excuses to be bad at the game I’d appreciate your presence evacuating this channel

Like a good toilet flush

[upper fulcrum]

Lmao, am I supposed to be threatened by some narcissistic neck beard, I’ve got better things to do than to troll - I simply come here to report sus players playing ranked

[mighty stump]

All I hear is a whiny bitchbaby winning fights being able to solve maths better than a 2-year old and its somehow feeding their complex

[bold geode]

[mighty stump]

While he trolls

Lmaoooo

Is your life so insignificant and sad that winning at a video game is feeding your ego that you need to police it for a billion dollar@company that cant even program a proper game?

Is that it?

[bold geode]

"Reporting it"
Lemme go to Mr Pokemon himself

[mighty stump]

Yeha lemme dial Gamefreak rn

Theyre hacqueing!!1!1!1

oh no1!1!1

[upper fulcrum]

It’s like a sports game, if there officials can’t control what’s going on, players lash out on each other and it becomes so much more entertaining, hockey for example - gamefreak can’t control the game

[bold geode]

I GOTTA CALL ILCA THIS FUCKIN SECOND

[mighty stump]

their pokemon is a different colour1!!1

[rancid matrix]

does this thing happens regularly?

[bold geode]

Ayo that's sus

[upper fulcrum]

Am I supposed to just accept it lol hell no

[mighty stump]

Idk the only players that last out publically and privately are the really shit ones

cause the actually good players understand that “cheats” dont even actually exist

[bold geode]

Eh not really
We just have a few bright individuals every now and then

[upper fulcrum]

I’m not complaining about genning which is also illegal, this is much worse tho

[mighty stump]

Showdown is a great prep tool

[upper fulcrum]

It is! When it works

[charred saddle]

🐒

[bold geode]

Then you CHEAT TOO!!!

[mighty stump]

and most of the time people say “cheating” its because they also blatantly don’t understand the game 🤷‍♀️

[bold geode]

I'm reporting you to GF

[mighty stump]

if it isn’t trying to accuse of genning lmaoo

[upper fulcrum]

I said cheaters should stick to showdown

[mighty stump]

And that shit of whiny showboating is pointless

[upper fulcrum]

Not showdown is for cheaters

Learn to read

[mighty stump]

And why would the link between Showdown and cheating be connected?

[upper fulcrum]

Lots of sus calcs and way above average malicious rng

[mighty stump]

You type without thinking and cant even read your own words back with accurate meaning

SUS CALCS AND MALICIOUS RNG

LORD

[upper fulcrum]

Good tool for testing but it has its limits

[mighty stump]

THATS YOUR BASIS?

Okay

Joker

[surreal echo]

Lol what even is this debate

[mighty stump]

A joker thinking hes hot shit when hes a lukewarm bowl of piss

Im out

[surreal echo]

Walked into some guy with a Whimsicott pfp tweaking

[upper fulcrum]

Some idiot who can’t read trying to argue with me

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

Bro rn

[surreal echo]

Some “Prankster” we got here

[upper fulcrum]

Anyways back to the game, have a great night, at least the intelligent folks in here

[bold geode]

Yeah, he's using Fake Tears rn

[mighty stump]

Have a terrible night everyone

I hate all of you

[surreal echo]

People need to stop cheating in this kid’s game !!!1!!1!1!1!

[mighty stump]

I need to look nice to everyone else even though they also think im wrong!!!

[surreal echo]

GF needs to add Rusted bottle caps

[mighty stump]

RIP Enam-T users

[bold geode]

GF needs to give me women

[surreal echo]

Rip ursaluna users

Anyways

[mighty stump]

bro?

[surreal echo]

https://pokepast.es/d5afc94ff97dc647 Thoughts? Been using this on Bo3 and it’s been working out pretty well for me. Am wondering if I should change anything tho

[bold geode]

[surreal echo]

GF = GameFreak
GF = Girlfriend

Coincidence? I think not!

[bold geode]

It's all there
RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES

[mighty stump]

Wow

[supple ether]

Tera fairy archualudon or AV Walking Wake seem threatening, especially without speed control of your own

[surreal echo]

Hm

I haven’t run into either of those

[supple ether]

But solid overall. Also watch out for body press sets

[surreal echo]

Nice

[mighty stump]

Have u considered Snarl over Iron Head since Sacred Fire should chunk most Flutters anyways, could@improve the RB set up mirror + Psyspam

It also avoids Meteor Beam Armas chunking too hard

[surreal echo]

Yeah I had Snarl over Iron Head before I changed it

But I forgot about psyspam

[mighty stump]

Otherwise looks good to me

[bold geode]

Tofu I'm making my own website tomorrow hopefully

[surreal echo]

Great

[mighty stump]

But unfortunatelt youre a cheater cause you use showdown

so ur banned

[surreal echo]

[bold geode]

Yeah I'm calling GF on you

[mighty stump]

pog lmk how it goes

[bold geode]

Yeah Hatena hasn't gotten back to me so might look into just making my own website like Mika mentioned

[surreal echo]

[bold geode]

Like I know they take longer for holidays
But like dayum

I put my request in on the 29th at 10 AM
And it's now Jan 7th at 1:34 AM

Wish the WordPress shit I HAD wasn't the way it was
That truly hit me back

[mighty stump]

fr

must be a new thing

[bold geode]

I just gotta make sure I get my website legitimately
Don't wanna cheat on that too

[mighty stump]

im glad I wanted to use Hatenablog cause I wanted to

Whatchamacallit

Have the url

[bold geode]

Yeah I put in request for that
They just haven't got back to me

Knowing my luck, I make the fuckin website and then they're like "ok you're good"

Hell I've had that post sitting for a week now
I wonder how many reads or whatever it's got

Probably hardly any

[charred saddle]

what does 36 hp 4 def 4 sp def do in the urshifu?

[bold geode]

Actually fuck now that post is a bit outdated lol

Like I talked about how Ape was interesting
I talked about how Incineroar topped usage of other mons when in Portland, Flutter beat it

Man

Tbh that post I might just push to Narnia

[surreal echo]

It’s leftovers. 212 speed and jolly allows Urshifu to outspeed scarf lando. If I made it 252 speed i could speed tie with other urshifu, but I’d rather not have my matches hinge on 50/50s

It is an old spread though, and seeing as scarf lando-t isn’t really a thing i might change it

[queen hull]

I've now got my Flutter. Time to hypertrain and figure out spreads and movesets

[warped mason]

Good start so far for my 1st season

[supple ether]

Nice!

[warped mason]

Thx

[supple ether]

Alright, Im committing to my body press carbink team

Wish me luck (I dont wanna go 0-6 again )

[warped mason]

Looks solid. I've been using a similar team with AV metagross and wellspring ogerpon instead of flutter and urshifu.

With my entei being banded

[bold geode]

@mighty stump I've seen a couple guys on Twitter mentioning Tera Bug Raging Bolt
Do you have any idea

[dapper crag]

- [Bug]

Resists (0.5x)

Fighting, Grass, Ground

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fire, Flying, Rock

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[bold geode]

Eh I'll figure out later
Goodnight y'all

[mighty stump]

No

[charred saddle]

tofu, any common calcs i need to do for gouging fire?

https://pokepast.es/189a465de8312526

the one i do here is,

116 speed to ensures +1 DD outspeeds non speed booster flutter or, max speed modest flutter, or special booster flutter, hitting 188 speed,

also enough to pickup the ohko with +1 heatcrash into flutter

196 is 2nd bump,

but bulk wise im still kinda confused on wether to go more on sp def or hp

i feel that defend here is kinda negligible, especially if i can fish out burns with bulwark, and it has a very high base defence too

ignore primarina and a9, theyre still kinda off

252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 84 HP / 108 SpD Gouging Fire: 190-226 (99.4 - 118.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

calced for lando i, too goddamn strong , idk if itll be worth doing too much for it. prob just gonna tera or switch

+1 196+ Atk Gouging Fire Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus: 162-192 (98.7 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
it can pick up the ko tho

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 84 HP / 4 Def Gouging Fire on a critical hit: 93-111 (48.6 - 58.1%) -- approx. 96.5% chance to 2HKO

anyway, would be helpful if theres any common other calcs i need to be wary of

[warped mason]

God psy spam iron crown is so oppresive. Especially if your team is built around it with incin checks.

[smoky hawk]

9 matches in Portland and I didn't see 1 lando-I. Watched several games on the big screen. Still no lando-I

Showdown last couple weeks, barely saw lando-I

Are you guys totally sure that's a common pokemon? That's what I've been told

[warped mason]

Its common on showdown ladder atleast

26.4% usage

[charred saddle]

i mean... this

i met lando I like 2-3 times in like 5 games or so

most of them have quite different sets, i think funnily enough one of it was a lando I scarf

[warped mason]

When lando I decides to not miss its sandshear's it can just rip apart teams.

[wheat geode]

Hi! Just wanted to ask if Poison was the best Tera type for Gengar? Or does this always depend on prevalent matchups?

[supple ether]

Usually tera is for a specific purpose. A particular attack you wanna live or a damage treshold you want to guarantee

[wheat geode]

Oh gotcha! So it's best to identify the biggest threats to Gengar, and give it a Tera type that would counter that

[wheat geode]

Gotcha, thanks!

[gentle crag]

daveeee has given 1 Gen Rep to chef_h.

[supple ether]

Typically yeah. You can also consider things like: dark types cant be affected by prankster moves (inccluding taunt) and are immune to psychic type attacks. Or grass types are immune to rage powder/spore, etc.

There's also more... Creative applications, like tera flying next to your own earthquake user, or tera ghost to avoid fakeout pressure

[wheat geode]

Gotcha! I'm trying to look into this more (like if there's a list) and I can't seem to find one out there, but I get what you mean! Like how Ghost types aren't affected by Normal and Fighting(?) type attacks unless they have that one ability

[supple ether]

Ye thats right

[wheat geode]

I can see why people say the tera system made comp a lot more fun and complex compared to the dynamax system, although I honestly enjoyed the dynamax system

[supple ether]

You can checkout nerdofnow's vgc calculator for common builds for specific pokemon, or pikalytics for %usage of moves, items, etc. I forget if pikalytics has tera type % distribution on there too

[supple ether]

Oh for sure, it's very interesting. Better than Z move hell thats for sure

[scarlet otter]

Z moves where a hell to predict

You get hit by it then you lose, you miss your you lose

I prefered megas even do it made some of the most op mons like Mega Kanghaskan or Rayquaza I really liked the looks

And it made a bunch of forgettable mons like Mawile reliable

[dull ibex]

hello

[scarlet otter]

Hello

[dull ibex]

do not ping me plz

unless its important

[scarlet otter]

K sure

[scarlet otter]

A small funny team I had some amazing games with: https://pokepast.es/028589b12c33a75e

MVP's are Kingambit and Vivillon

[tough idol]

Isn't that the team you built for Luck. Other than dropping Dusk Mane for Incin

[scarlet otter]

Yep, I ran it on showdown as his computer kept freezing and turned out to be very fun

Time to breed for 2 more 0IV mons

[tough idol]

Which ones?

[scarlet otter]

Empoleon and Vivillon

[drowsy radish]

Just hit master ball tier on doubles. If I play again and lose can I derank?

[pearl wind]

nope, you cant drop out of masterball rank. once you are in the masterball rank you can see your position within the tier, thats where you can lose or gain positions

[bold geode]

I'm important

[dull ibex]

I'm very close to blocking you

[karmic temple]

Morning comp let’s pray incineroar wins his first regionals of 2024

[scarlet otter]

[karmic temple]

My husband would like a word with you

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-gif-23372577

[tough idol]

I'm working stream will be near top cut or maybe top 4 when I get home

[scarlet otter]

Word

[tough idol]

As long as raging bolt doesn't win 😤

[dull ibex]

bro thats an animal

[bold geode]

Nah

[dull ibex]

I will do it

im dead serious

[karmic temple]

No that’s my husband wym ?

[bold geode]

God I'm tryna wake up but it's not working

[dull ibex]

bro thats a whole tiger

[karmic temple]

That’s the kids nickname for him 😍 call him Tony

[bold geode]

Also Red idk why you got so wishy washy over that all of a sudden

Scared of the color yellow

[karmic temple]

So anyways I got clapped by raging bolt or whatever paradox raikou is last night twice in a row

First av then calm mind lefties

[bold geode]

As do we all

[dull ibex]

over what?

the pinging its not sudden

ive been warning you for weeks not to ping me

in here and the other discord

I think once in dms too

[bold geode]

Out of how long I've talked to you?

[dull ibex]

listen i'd like to be able to keep my notifications on without one of them being hello or some other shit that doesnt require bothering me

I read these chats alot there is no reason to ping me to make a joke

reply to me and hit the mention off button its not that hard my guy

[bold geode]

That's dumb considering you ping me to say hello
Imma just continue doing what I do
If you block me it's whatever

[dull ibex]

you could just be respectful?

also yeah I ping you because didnt specifically ask me not too

multiple times

[bold geode]

I'm done talking about it

[dull ibex]

well im not lmao

[bold geode]

Well I am so shut

[dull ibex]

no thanks im good

[bold geode]

Ok then get ignored

[dull ibex]

lol

[bold geode]

Cuz I'm not talking about it anymore

[dull ibex]

LMAO

[bold geode]

Cuz your reasoning is basically I don't want people to say hello to me

Or to converse

[autumn vault]

good day monkeVGC and LA Hariyama

[bold geode]

And I just don't give a fuck

[dull ibex]

so let me get this straight

[bold geode]

Good morning

[dull ibex]

I ask you something dont ping so I dont get the notification

[bold geode]

Or night whenever it is for you

[dull ibex]

and YOU want to twist into red doesnt want a hello or a conversation

you are absurd lol

[bold geode]

It's a notification lmao
It's not the end of the world

[dull ibex]

neither is not doing it

[bold geode]

Fuck this
I'm not doing this

Goodbye

[dull ibex]

anyways, Hello comp chat how is everyone else doing

[scarlet otter]

Good man

[dull ibex]

thats good to hear

[scarlet otter]

Why do you not like pings?

I mean you can just turn notifications off if they bother you

[karmic temple]

Can we move to a different topic

[autumn vault]

doing bad because the fucking NSO expired 2 days ago and now i cant play comp

[mighty stump]

@dull ibex You can turn off pings if you don't want pings. or Notifications.

@bold geode If people don't want to be pinged, don't ping them or turn off ping replies

[dull ibex]

fair

[mighty stump]

I don't understand two adults couldn't come to that conclusion

[scarlet otter]

[dull ibex]

😭 I wish I still my trial

[karmic temple]

Tofu we play Pokémon

[autumn vault]

how is your throat?

[karmic temple]

Are we really adults

[mighty stump]

Yes.

[dull ibex]

i'd offer you a trial but i already gave it to someone else 😔

[scarlet otter]

Still hurts from yesterday

[karmic temple]

(°▽°)

[mighty stump]

Cause the makers themselves also said it's for all ages "even kids"

So

[scarlet otter]

[karmic temple]

Zamnit

[autumn vault]

Breaking news!: A zekrom stan ruined a dude's throat for 2 days because he was too funny and called charizard "the overrated" and is Gamefreaks no. 1 target

[scarlet otter]

We aren’t degenerates

[dull ibex]

last thing then ill move on promise, I want to be able to keep my notifications on incase someone needs help. that is all

[scarlet otter]

Doesn’t hurt as much but the puke smell is still on the bathroom

[bold geode]

Also I see this now
I see you're into the Rock's suit

[willow vault]

Charizard is overrated

[dull ibex]

I should build another team eventually

[autumn vault]

it is

[scarlet otter]

My throat is hurting again

[bold geode]

The fact you haven't built with Wake yet surprises me
Good with HO

[autumn vault]

i will just stop so i dont torcher your throat again because after yesterday you dont deserve more damage

[scarlet otter]

[dull ibex]

I did try too

I had it on my whim team originally

[willow vault]

I’m going back to Heatran + Ogerpon-water, any ideas why Heatran is really underused currently?

[dull ibex]

I was told to replace it with shifu

[bold geode]

Why?

[dull ibex]

better water type ig?

it was sunny day whim too iirc

[scarlet otter]

Probably since we got Incineroar

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[scarlet otter]

A bulkier fire type

[mighty stump]

Lando-I

Not Incin

Lando-I has ruined Heatran;s life

[dull ibex]

Lando-I eats

[willow vault]

Ah

[bold geode]

Even more reason for Wake lmao

[scarlet otter]

Also Incineroar since it outclasses it

[mighty stump]

The two Teras Heatran likes are both weak the Poisonm

[dull ibex]

yeah im not sure

it was like day 2 of showdown having reg F

[bold geode]

I mean c'mon a Water type attack that gets sun boost and rain boost

[scarlet otter]

Flying?

[willow vault]

That answers my next question

[dull ibex]

so maybe it was just new format thing

[mighty stump]

Not really, Incineroar isn't doing spread SpA damage/trapping

[mighty stump]

Doesn't run it.

Its Grass/Fairy

[dull ibex]

oh is reg f officially out?

[willow vault]

Tera Dragon Heatran?

[scarlet otter]

Yep

[mighty stump]

Been for 3 days

[dull ibex]

:skull

[autumn vault]

lando cant take incin's position as an intimidate pokemon due to incarnate's big usage

[bold geode]

Yeah people like were not touching Wake until Cybertron did lol
Don't know why it's perfectly viable
All 3 of the Scarlet are imo

[dull ibex]

dude my discord just jump scared me

[mighty stump]

Non-existent since you're a quad resist to Flutter, suddenly turning weak to the one thing you're checking isn't it

[dull ibex]

I was looking at chat and it still scared me 😭

[autumn vault]

since like 3 days now

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[dull ibex]

oh its the Seventh LMAO

[scarlet otter]

[bold geode]

Lmao
Discord just jumped at you like Foxy

[autumn vault]

DONT

[dull ibex]

anyone wanna vc and watch me ladder?

[dull ibex]

real

[bold geode]

POV: You're the judge

[scarlet otter]

I can’t hold it

[dull ibex]

night guard*

haha funni fnaf joke

[mighty stump]

Sure

Rewatching Portland in the meantime too

[autumn vault]

well i have to go wreck kieran the 2nd time with ttar and excadrill and no NSO

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1193526605591617557

[bold geode]

Anyways yeah Sun Wake good yada yada
Cybertron has a video with it if you wanna watch but it's just Whims Wake Mane if you already had that lmao

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/10ce9d8e5d5035ce something like this

[bold geode]

@dull ibex open it up

[dull ibex]

haha wake mane whim who tf would do that

[scarlet otter]

Hey wouldn’t Whimsi with Memento be helpful?

Or U-Turn

Yes

Understandebla

My mic causes voice calls to crash

So I can’t else it will break the voice because it cause 20K echos of everybody

Goal?

Rating

Best of 3, 1v1?

In Showdown

Yeah

GG

[chrome knot]

eee e e

[willow vault]

e

[scarlet otter]

Lol I'm bored

Let's play Gartic Phone

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-so-gif-25731523

[scarlet otter]

[timid perch]

Shiny rufflet is powerful

[nocturne holly]

fr double shiny damage is insane

[timid perch]

Ong

My shiny sweeped champion

[mental prism]

I wanna get started in competitive, what are the main things to look for when building a team?

[scarlet otter]

Type variety, cooperation and synergy

VGC guide, smogon and the pins here are helpful when teambuilding

[mighty stump]

• Accounting for relevant matchups within the metagame. Currently things like Urshifu/Incineroar FWG Balance as surface-level examples
• Having a general gameplan, following from that. Knowing what your pieces do, what they're for, and how they always forward a win-con

[mental prism]

Okay, I'll check that out

[bold geode]

Hai Emmie
What you cookin

[mighty stump]

You should be able to point at a piece and tell me exactly why that's there mechanically

[chrome knot]

1 fancy looking room

[kindred cypress]

@mighty stump Since you are meta master here, any ideas how I could fit a Kingdra into a team? Don’t have anything set yet, but I need some help.

[bold geode]

Is the room twisted by any chance

[chrome knot]

yes

[bold geode]

Is this room tricked

[scarlet otter]

Rain teams work

[mighty stump]

Rain Dance, really

[chrome knot]

also yes

[mighty stump]

Pelipper + Kingdra is easy enough to start

[chrome knot]

its also sunny out

[scarlet otter]

I prefer Tornadus

Tornadus rain dance prankster

It uses bleakwind storm

[bold geode]

Damn it's sunny outside too
Go outside touch grass
Then you realize it's not sunny out and realize
The room wasn't the only thing tricked

[scarlet otter]

So it helps Tornadus too

[mighty stump]

I've seen both Tornadus and Pelipper together, due to Bleakwind being boosted by Rain. Without the overlap, you can run Politoed as a bulkier switch in. Both are fine

But not being able to immediately offensively pressure from the getgo is also something to consider.

[kindred cypress]

Aight, should I go for more control on the battlefield (incin and such) or go for more offensive (flutter and such)

[bold geode]

Toad
Toad sage
Jiraiya boy

[charred saddle]

what about dragon cheer sniper kingdra

jk it sounded soo bad

[bold geode]

Banned for rn

[mighty stump]

:/

Yea

Its bugged because the boost didn't go away after switching

[scarlet otter]

@mental prism are you making the team on Showdown?

[charred saddle]

yeah i saw the bug yesterday

btw, does the dragon cheer still connect to allies even if the ally mon used protect

i mean if it does, spiky shield ogerpon, then do like cheer is pretty nice no

[mighty stump]

It does

[dapper crag]

Ability: Sniper

If this Pokemon strikes with a critical hit, the damage is multiplied by 1.5.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[charred saddle]

oh,

[mighty stump]

So something like Ogerpon Hearthflame + Gyarados can be a funny lead

[charred saddle]

interesting

[nocturne holly]

W

[mighty stump]

I still don't think its necessarily worth running

[scarlet otter]

Well Spring, Follow Me Ogerpon. Gyarados Dragon Dance

[nocturne holly]

heal pulse should go through protect 🤷‍♂️

[mighty stump]

Highly dislike the coverage overlap.

and I don't really want Gyarados as my main sweeper since I value the intimidate cycling

[scarlet otter]

Still funny to use

[scarlet otter]

I agree too, for strats like that I prefer Kingambit

But it's still fun to do that

[mighty stump]

That's also fine. It can run Night Slash if you're not OK with the 50% chance you'll get with Ogerpon

But it does require your Tera

[dapper crag]

Move: Heal Pulse

The target restores 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded half up. If the user has the Mega Launcher Ability, the target instead restores 3/4 of its maximum HP, rounded half down.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Pulse

Boosted by Mega Launcher.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[scarlet otter]

Let me get a team I made around the concept

I got a bunch of good wins with it

https://pokepast.es/5b9f017c239d2f7f

[dapper crag]

[Latest Gen] Clawitzer

Heal Pulse:

• As Clawitzer by level up (1)

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[Latest Gen] Blastoise-Mega

Heal Pulse:

• Blastoise-Mega does not learn Heal Pulse in Generation 9

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[nocturne holly]

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[karmic temple]

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[dapper crag]

Move: Follow Me

Until the end of the turn, all single-target attacks from the opposing side are redirected to the user. Such attacks are redirected to the user before they can be reflected by Magic Coat or the Magic Bounce Ability, or drawn in by the Lightning Rod or Storm Drain Abilities. Fails if it is not a Double Battle or Battle Royal. This effect is ignored while the user is under the effect of Sky Drop.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

2

Move Flags

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Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Pokémon No. 1017: Ogerpon

Type

Grass

Abilities

Defiant

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/84/60/96/110

Total

550

Other Formes

Ogerpon-Wellspring, Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Ogerpon-Cornerstone, Ogerpon-Teal-Tera, Ogerpon-Wellspring-Tera, Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera, Ogerpon-Cornerstone-Tera

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[nocturne holly]

heal pulse should not be affected by this

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 149: Dragonite

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Inner Focus, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/134/95/100/100/80

Total

600

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Pokémon No. 244: Entei

Type

Fire

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/115/85/90/75/100

Total

580

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[mighty stump]

Clef Dnite is probably your best bet for something like this, if not Gothi-Nite

If you want Heal Pulse.

[charred saddle]

oo now i see why i e speed over follow me waterpon before, i thought follow me was prio +3

[mighty stump]

That's why Entei can also be valuable as an E-Speeder over Dnite, higher speed.

[charred saddle]

yeah

[shrewd scarab]

I had a hard time with an E speed entei yesterday

[charred saddle]

i remember being able to follow me e speed nite

but i just did e speed first before follow me waterpon and i thought it was weird

[scarlet otter]

E speed Arcanine can also be used

[charred saddle]

entei kinda nice haha

[scarlet otter]

Not the best but can

[shrewd scarab]

Also encountered a H-Arc that was built well too

[mighty stump]

Arcanine isn't picked as heavily due to being a greater Tera hog + its natural typing isn't as advantageous, and no Inner Focus is sadge

so imo just Entei it

Since Entei can also Stomping in the mirror

[charred saddle]

ye, itll still bring e speed, but wont be used as the same strat for chientei and paonite

itll be like sweeping endgame

[mighty stump]

Like the difficult thing is

Imo

[charred saddle]

chientei > paotei

[mighty stump]

Dnite and Entei can be on the same team

H-Arc can't be with either

Either taking up Choice Band or taking up the Fire-typing

[charred saddle]

i mean Harc want the band right ueah

[mighty stump]

Sure, Dnite can take LO, but at that point I don't need the flexibility, i'd prefer the CB

[charred saddle]

ye thats what i kinda realized

[mighty stump]

Cause then the LO can go on Entei

[charred saddle]

btw then tofu, would you think that if im gonna be using gouging fire, i should change into paonite instead of entei?

[mighty stump]

Imo, yea

[charred saddle]

hmmm

[mighty stump]

But oddly enough

If you're running Gouging Fire

You run Howl + you run LO Dnite

Because a Howl + LO is basically the same as CB + SoR

[charred saddle]

even without SoR?

[nocturne holly]

Tofu can I have your bulky shifu spread again :3

[charred saddle]

or just means that howl LO = CB

[mighty stump]

Howl LO = CB SoR

[charred saddle]

hmm

then itll be more of a supportive gouging ye?

howl, breaking swipe, crash

rather than like DD

[mighty stump]

Yeah that's what id be thinking

Thankfully the Fire Dragon means you don't have a true "overlap" barring Dragon typing

That you actually care about

[charred saddle]

ill prob try make another team with that, i wanna try see if DD gouging works

[mighty stump]

Im gonna go execute

that idea i think

[charred saddle]

ye ye that makes sense

[bold geode]

What Gouging? Don't copy me boy

[mighty stump]

Ok mr no-blog

[charred saddle]

i was about to say, when will the game make fire flying, sounds kinda nice

[bold geode]

Fuck you bro

[mighty stump]

Moltres be like:

[charred saddle]

then i forgot our best boy zard

[bold geode]

Talonflame be like:

[mighty stump]

I like how Moltres is more memorable to me than Zard

Lmao

[charred saddle]

oh god hahah theres wuite a lot

[mighty stump]

TALONFLAME BE LIKE

[bold geode]

I just instantly think of the dark one

[charred saddle]

talonflame will always be my egg hatcher so

[mighty stump]

Mood

[bold geode]

Whenever Moltres is brought up

[bold geode]

I use Volcarona

[mighty stump]

My favourite Fire-Flying type is Air Balloon Incineroar 💀

[scarlet otter]

Orcorio...

[bold geode]

Damn that one's good

[scarlet otter]

My 2nd random shiny and favorite mon

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAH

oh whats that,

its a FLYING EMBOAR

[mighty stump]

Oricoria exists

[mighty stump]

YOU SAID ITS VIABLE WHEN PIGS FLY

HERE IT IS

[scarlet otter]

Ho-Oh

[bold geode]

Tofu did you see that one in Showdown
They were cheating then, go call GF

[mighty stump]

Oh right mb

Lemme go on the cheaters website

[bold geode]

Lemme cheat real quick

[scarlet otter]

Cheater belong on showdown

[charred saddle]

damn, dont bother ur partner for cheating

[mighty stump]

Cheater belong on showdown

[bold geode]

Segregating them to Showdown smh

[mighty stump]

WOW

Is this Star Wars cause I hear the Separatists

[bold geode]

Lmao

REBEL SOLDIERS

[mighty stump]

REBEL SOLDIERS

[bold geode]

I'm fuckin crying bro

[mighty stump]

THE DARK SIDE: SHOWDOWN

STAR WARS REVENGE OF THE SMOGON

[scarlet otter]

lol, STAR WARS POKEMON COMFIRMED

DARK VADER IN GEN 20K

[mighty stump]

DARK VADER

FORCE NEW POKEMON GIMMICK CONFIRMED

[bold geode]

Star Wars: Return of the Damage Calculator

[scarlet otter]

LIGHTSABER GIMMICK CONFIRMED

i should actually make a mod about this

For Pokemon Emerald

Dark Vade type?

[mighty stump]

Dark Psychic or sth

[bold geode]

STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM TEAMBUILDER

[mighty stump]

Darth Sidious is Dark/Electric

[scarlet otter]

Yeah matches the name and 'force'

[bold geode]

Yeah give all of em Expanding Force

[charred saddle]

dark vader
dark fairy typing

[scarlet otter]

Lightsaber gimmick gives a lightsaber to mon they use to make all moves x1.5 boost while giving special boosts to some mons (permament)

Guess I'm throwing a month of my life on this mod

[mighty stump]

Han Solo should be Normal/Rock

[scarlet otter]

Nah, I'm jk I am too lazy to make this. Maybe when I'm bored I'll start

[bold geode]

It just gives every Mon Ivy Cudgel

[mighty stump]

lmao

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2029304469

I love smeargle

[mental prism]

I've just started seing what pokemon are good and so, not building the team right now

[bold geode]

STAR WARS: ATTACK OF THE OU

[mental prism]

Do you recomend Showdown or just for testing?

[scarlet otter]

lol, I feel like this could be a genuinely good mod

[scarlet otter]

Just for testing

[mighty stump]

Laddering highly on Showdown is also a respectable metric and something a lot of people pay attention too

[scarlet otter]

Can code it, won't do it

[mighty stump]

Just depends on the medium you prefer

[bold geode]

Also someone else commented this on Tera Bug Bolt

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/f3e5406db4fd5f1e any thoughts?

[mental prism]

I like the process of breeding, training and all those things so I prefeer doing it ingame

[scarlet otter]

Pls for the love of god switch wise glasses

[mighty stump]

No I know

I et it

But like

[bold geode]

Wait you knew why
You said you didn't

[scarlet otter]

Get this pinned

[mighty stump]

What do you mean I said "I didnt know why"

Of course I know why I literally followed up with it, I said I don't like it

[bold geode]

I stg I asked you and you said no
Then again that was a pinged message I saw when I was still tired

[mighty stump]

Grass is still better to bypass Rage Powder and Spore

[charred saddle]

saw smeargle, closed the paste

[bold geode]

True

I got Fairy since Goggles

[charred saddle]

i dont like playing smeargle, just because i have no fucking clue what they will drop

[scarlet otter]

Protect, Substitute, spore and then some OP attack move

Then they don't let you do anything and set up moody

And once they get proper boosts they'll one shot you with Judgment

Even do that should be signature move

Or him

[tough coral]

What would you guys suggest as a final pokemon for this team? https://pokepast.es/a7e6531a22525b56

[scarlet otter]

Barraskewda is pretty funny

Tornadus also works

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 847: Barraskewda

Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Propeller Tail (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

61/123/60/60/50/136

Total

490

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[nocturne holly]

outspeeding booster bundle in rain is W

but you’re not doing shit back to it

worse basculegion

[scarlet otter]

Yep, choice band and some hard hitting moves is pretty good

[scarlet otter]

[scarlet otter]

I got many sweeps with Liquidation Choice Band Barraskewda

Oh and looks like Urshifu and Landorous are not built yet @tough coral

A build for Urshifu like this

[timber falcon]

Yeah my bad, keep forgetting about orb lol

[scarlet otter]

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Unseen Fist
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 44 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 92 SpD / 212 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Surging Strikes
• Close Combat
• U-turn
• Aqua Jet

[tough coral]

ye ik I just added them and I wanted to know what to add as my final pokemon before I went ahead with finish off the others

[remote hollow]

this game is absolute dogwater for competitive gameplay, same cringe ass 10 pokemon in every team in online battles, absolute rubbish game

[scarlet otter]

Landorus (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 132 HP / 4 Def / 116 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Earth Power
• Sludge Bomb
• Protect
• Weather Ball

[scarlet otter]

THis also works for kilawatt

[tough coral]

Would something like flutter mane work well with the others in my team?

[scarlet otter]

That's not true, almost any Pokemon is viable. There is a META like in every game and that is to be expected

[scarlet otter]

I recommend Tornadus or Barraskewda

[tough coral]

What kinda set would u run for tornadus?

[scarlet otter]

Lemme get it

[tough coral]

Would you recommend tornadus to be another rain dance tailwind support mon?

I used it on a previous team and it did quite well as that role but I dont want it to interfere with pelipper or do u reckon that wouldnt matter too much?

[remote hollow]

fake news my G, just got my team one shot, as a sun team against a ogrepon using ivy cudgel, not very effective but apparently effective enough to one shot a torkoal and umbreon in the sun, so good, so much fun, really a great and balanced experience

[scarlet otter]

Tornadus (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Bleakwind Storm
• Weather Ball
• Tailwind
• Rain Dance

[scarlet otter]

It isn't fake news, I use Barraskewda and Clefairy yet still get amazing rating

[tough coral]

would something like a covert cloak not be better if im using it for setting up?

[queen hull]

https://pokepast.es/a796811ae999ecdb My team with the changes from yesterday. Managed to find someone to help me pick up the Past Paradoxes I needed