Not sure of his thoughts on Hydrapple
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
tired sage
it’s pretty new so we won’t really know what to do with it until we get used to it
mighty stump
Hydrapple?
molten oasis
I’m determined to get it working
mighty stump
Im downgrading it to like
keen karma
Not sure of his thoughts on Hydrapple
who's?
molten oasis
Hydrapple?
Yea
mighty stump
content levels
keen karma
idk wth it does
mighty stump
Archaludon/Raging Bolt/Incin are probably going to be the kings of the DLC
molten oasis
For sure
mighty stump
Everything else is either like, alright, or content material
molten oasis
welp, time to give up on Hydrapple
keen karma
walking wake is content material?
tired sage
i’m debating on whether i should ditch a move for heavy slam…
currently i’m running:
pollen puff (for healing mostly cause it’s slower then my arma)
fickle beam
energy ball
earth power…
keen karma
i feel like flutter yu wake would be super good
molten oasis
Might as well feed into all the fucking raging bolt users
ember linden
Archaludon/Raging Bolt/Incin are probably going to be the kings of the DLC
I have all three on one team
mighty stump
i’m debating on whether i should ditch a move for heavy slam…
currently i’m runn...
Heavy Slam isn’t worth it if you dont OHKO flutter
summer shore
Morning chyat
keen karma
Morning chyat
gm
mighty stump
Might as well feed into all the fucking raging bolt users
I mean content means its workable lol
molten oasis
As I’ve seen the hydrspple is mid take enough to be disappointed enough to stop working on it
ember linden
Morning chyat
Morning Shyiro
tired sage
Morning chyat
hello shiro!
tired sage
hydrapple doesn’t do too bad in tr…
summer shore
Come OU if you wanna play w hydrapple
molten oasis
THATS IT
keen karma
What a waste of time
you didnt really waste time you can still use it
molten oasis
all I hear is use it in hard tr
molten oasis
That’s the only thing I hear, so I’m over it man
tired sage
base 44 speed
ember linden
He’s about to pop a blood vessel
keen karma
That’s the only thing I hear, so I’m over it man
then ignore it
molten oasis
Why work on it if it’s just gonna be mid
keen karma
you know how many times ive gotten annoyed at you guys calling mons mid based off of just one look at it
molten oasis
Gonna go to something else at this rate and join the tornshifu Archaludon team party cuz I don’t know what to do
Av is better on most mons
mighty stump
Why work on it if it’s just gonna be mid
I mean, Drago
ember linden
Gonna go to something else at this rate and join the tornshifu Archaludon team p...
You want me and cigar’s team?
molten oasis
Grass slot is better for something 90% of the time
mighty stump
I made an Empo team that dearly wishes I could use Urshifu instead
Do you want to make a team you’re happy with and put in the work or just meta slave
summer shore
VGC as a format is innately unfriendly towards 99% of the mons in the game
molten oasis
A team im happy with, the meta is boring
summer shore
🙂
mighty stump
then just build the team and make it work and play your ass off
gentle notch
molten oasis
I don’t think Hydrapple is bad but I’ve heard so many takes that it isn’t good enough
mighty stump
Thats the only choice lol
keen karma
VGC as a format is innately unfriendly towards 99% of the mons in the game
watching jamie boyt ruined my thought process on vgc
tired sage
VGC as a format is innately unfriendly towards 99% of the mons in the game
heyyyyy
eevee did something in sm/usum
mighty stump
watching jamie boyt ruined my thought process on vgc
Not everyone is Jamie Boyt.
keen karma
well i guess enhanced
mighty stump
And even his takes aren’t all that
ember linden
Jamie is something else
mighty stump
I don’t think Hydrapple is bad but I’ve heard so many takes that it isn’t good e...
So?
keen karma
Not everyone is Jamie Boyt.
im just saying for me
tired sage
I don’t think Hydrapple is bad but I’ve heard so many takes that it isn’t good e...
what’s stopping you from proving the people wrong-?
summer shore
Realistically like 10 mons are gonna be the ideal mons to use in VGC
mighty stump
How many takes do you think I’ve heard about my teams from Yotam
molten oasis
Ig I can believe in it harder, idk im shattered from todays testing session
keen karma
but hes easily my favorite player
summer shore
At any given moment
molten oasis
I fucking hate fluttermane
mighty stump
what’s stopping you from proving the people wrong-?
Its not about proving people wrong either lol
keen karma
he has opened me up to seeing value in less popular options
mighty stump
You’re not proving them wrong cause their takes are going to be correct: It’s going to be more work and difficult to pilot relative to better options
summer shore
he has opened me up to seeing value in less popular options
Value existing ≠ easy to pilot
ember linden
Those people most likely realize it can work on a specific team they just overall do not think it is the best.
molten oasis
I think Hydrapple is kinda unique tbh
I like the option to an attacker with regenerator
mighty stump
But if you want to actually make a team you’re happy with you either have to become a highly skilled pilot, know your matchups, and perfectly craft your team
keen karma
Value existing ≠ easy to pilot
i like hard to pilot stuff
tired sage
You’re not proving them wrong cause their takes are going to be correct: It’s go...
yeah.
i suppose that’s a better way to put it…
idk i’m just spewing words out rn…
molten oasis
I just wish it’s typing wasn’t so disappointing
keen karma
so its a win win for me
molten oasis
At times
mighty stump
Yeah but there’s no point in looking at the negatives
molten oasis
I think I pilot well, you’ve seen me pilot before. It’s the actual teambuilding part I can’t get down
tired sage
i’m still trying to make explosion normal band eleki work…
i should really stop with this idea but it’s too fun to resist
mighty stump
Learn the rules and get good at the game to break the rules at the end of the day
ember linden
I think I pilot well, you’ve seen me pilot before. It’s the actual teambuilding ...
Have you played games with what we came up with yet?
ember linden
Learn the rules and get good at the game to break the rules at the end of the da...
Bro this deserves a fucking pin
mighty stump
Wanna know how many games I played with the Empoleon team?
molten oasis
How many?
karmic temple
A lot I bet
ember linden
1.3k?
keen karma
300
molten oasis
At this rate I just have to believe in it, which I do im just losing my mind to “I clicked Tera fairy moonblast hehe” and then losing 🫠
molten oasis
God damn
ember linden
My guess was hella close
summer shore
give or take 650 games in 2-3 days
Tofu what the hell
mighty stump
Tofu what the hell
Lol I played Bo3 sets for hours
keen karma
Tofu what the hell
look... games fly by quicker than you know
tired sage
that’s a lot of testing to “perfect” the team :0
mighty stump
not including my time in bo1 ladder
keen karma
Lol I played Bo3 sets for hours
bo3 is fucking insane
mighty stump
nor in cart
molten oasis
Well for a niche Mon it makes sense
summer shore
Lol I played Bo3 sets for hours
Tofu thats more games than I've played this generation
keen karma
i couldn't imagine sitting in bo3 ladder
mighty stump
Tofu thats more games than I've played this generation
Lmao
molten oasis
Or a decent Mon that just exists in a format with better options
mighty stump
at leats showdown is time efficient
keen karma
i wanna test all the paradoxes if they're confirmed legal
so far though im not testing any of them
summer shore
at leats showdown is time efficient
I guess vgc games are shorter
mighty stump
I guess vgc games are shorter
Pretty much
molten oasis
yk what no I’ll put in the time, im just getting frustrated
keen karma
iron boulder is the one im most excited for
mighty stump
yk what no I’ll put in the time, im just getting frustrated
It’s fine to be frustrated you saw mine
crude pollen
What teras are seeming best for Raging Bolt?
molten oasis
Maybe I need to go look at other partners
I think I’m onto something with Hydrapple incin and Primarina tho
I think the core is good tbh+gambit
This 6th tho
This 6th has been a never ending pain in the ass to find
mighty stump
What teras are seeming best for Raging Bolt?
Grass, more than likely not
keen karma
This 6th has been a never ending pain in the ass to find
why dont you actually test out your team in ladder before switching it over an over
fallen garden
I fucking hate fluttermane
if you're gonna stick with a dragon that loses to flutter mane, the move is to figure out your flutter mane answers
molten oasis
Doyle, in the nicest way possible
Shut up plz
I’ve been testing those 5 for days now
I have to work so I can’t grind ladder all day
molten oasis
if you're gonna stick with a dragon that loses to flutter mane, the move is to f...
That’s what I am trying to figure out
keen karma
Shut up plz
one way i get into the flow of it make an alt see how high you can ladder and you will slowly become more attatched
molten oasis
Rn the flutter matchup is just very rough
fallen garden
steel types are usually good into it
karmic temple
I’m also a hydrapple believer and I truly think it has a good place in the meta
molten oasis
My steel and fire type are neutral to fsiry so
fallen garden
any hard press mons you like?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
I wouldn’t use that move
ember linden
Very bad move
molten oasis
I don’t want to cave to changing the item on Hydrapple cuz hands is a decent slot on here, but won’t get av
Which I think blows
fallen garden
what's bad about it? doesn't it kill flutter mane
karmic temple
I debated heavy slam instead of pollen puff on hydrapple since it weighs as much as hands
molten oasis
what's bad about it? doesn't it kill flutter mane
No it’s like eruption but single target
karmic temple
Or am I getting it confused with a different pokemon
ember linden
I debated heavy slam instead of pollen puff on hydrapple since it weighs as much...
It does not.
mighty stump
No it’s like eruption but single target
Wrong, its the reverse
fallen garden
isn't it the target's hp?
molten oasis
Oh what?
fallen garden
max damage on full health mon
molten oasis
Oh, that still sucks
fallen garden
minimum damage on a low health mon
karmic temple
Oh I was getting it mixed up with bolt nvm 🤭
fallen garden
how does that suck if you're trying to kill flutter mane
fallen garden
hard press is a steel move, brother
keen karma
a 120 bp move sounds crazy to me
crude pollen
Bullet punch best punch
keen karma
that with chiyu would go crazy
molten oasis
k
fallen garden
lol paladin gets hard press
molten oasis
well, I will stick with Hydrapple ig I just need to put in more work, which is fine
I’m just frustrated about my mu inti flutter still feeling so ass
Flutter can just click moonblast, and wipe my team, it’s so annoying
fallen garden
who have you been bringing for it
molten oasis
I have not tested gouging fire yet
https://pokepast.es/dd4c66ccf0811132 but here’s the next variant
I made snow and kommo-o work in a meta with manual rain
tired sage
pollen puff support 
molten oasis
I can make this work
mighty stump
Flutter is neutral to poison lol
fallen garden
yeah but flutter does love its fairy tera
ember linden
Goober
fallen garden
maybe
keen karma
has any1 run throat spray psychic noise
fallen garden
but if bro keeps running into tera fairy flutter and losing 
keen karma
but if bro keeps running into tera fairy flutter and losing <:quaxly_stare:94779...
its just trial and error at this point
imo heatran would solidify this mu alot
tired sage
has any1 run throat spray psychic noise
for what-?
molten oasis
It doesn’t
ember linden
"just run supereffective moves into flutter itll fix your problem"
Yeah
molten oasis
I don’t like throat spray
tired sage
"just run supereffective moves into flutter itll fix your problem"
mhm!
it totally works…
fallen garden
i mean he has a kingambit, but no iron head
molten oasis
It’s swords dance
mighty stump
Standard set 🤷♂️
tired sage
it’s the standard gambit set xD
ember linden
Literally
fallen garden
but if he
tired sage
sd sucker punch kowtow
molten oasis
Could I run iron head sure
fallen garden
whatever man
keen karma
Could I run iron head sure
one thing im thinking is you could run 3 attacks
molten oasis
But I lose either the option to protect, lose prio, or lose kowtow, or dance
keen karma
dance
molten oasis
I’m not doing iron head, and I want swords dance
keen karma
I’m not doing iron head, and I want swords dance
what about an actual redirect mon
dull ibex
hello
keen karma
hi
molten oasis
What redirect Mon fits here that doesn’t overlap something’s roles
tired sage
idk how wel this calc is but uh
+2 252+ Atk Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Flutter Mane: 180-213 (111.1 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
keen karma
kingambit sd really shines with redirect imo
tired sage
this doesn’t look right…
molten oasis
No that makes sense kingambit hits insanely hard
mighty stump
zzz give me the paste Drago
keen karma
What redirect Mon fits here that doesn’t overlap something’s roles
clef
mighty stump
Im just going to correct it
molten oasis
alr
mighty stump
This is going nowhere
keen karma
tired sage
i’m using a weird flutter set xD
molten oasis
keen karma
this should be it
tired sage
252hp 116def for the calc…
molten oasis
There ya go, just fidget with whatever at this point
Id like av on Hydrapple, but if that has to change than so be it
mighty stump
What is this Farigiraf for
tired sage
even at no boosts…
252+ Atk Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Flutter Mane: 109-130 (67.2 - 80.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Tr, anti prio, hands answer
mighty stump
EVs
molten oasis
Oh
tired sage
it’s enough to clean up with another mon…
molten oasis
Lives neutral kowtow, knock off from incin and I believe moon?
Like no attack boost kowtow
fallen garden
do you have any good special defense sponges
molten oasis
Usually lives Tera fsiry specs moonblast
molten oasis
do you have any good special defense sponges
Primarina and Hydrapple with av
tired sage
do you have any good special defense sponges
blissey
AV blissey…
this is just for joke purposes please don’t actually try this-
mighty stump
Usually lives Tera fsiry specs moonblast
Usually?
molten oasis
It’s a roll
mighty stump
Im changing this to another spread. Im turning Kingambit into a roll and guarantees Tera Fairy Moonblast.
You dont care about Knock Off from Moon you have Intimidate
keen karma
Im changing this to another spread. Im turning Kingambit into a roll and guarant...
ooh can i get spread
mighty stump
and if an Incin KOs you with Knock Off from 100% ill give you an all shiny VGC team
keen karma
ive been running max max this whole time
mighty stump
tired sage
Usually lives Tera fsiry specs moonblast
itll live the set that i run…
108 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 129-153 (62.3 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
keen karma
what site is that
ember linden
I’m taking most of that
mighty stump
My blog.
molten oasis
Where tf did that Fari set come from and why have I just seen it
keen karma
itll live the set that i run…
108 SpA Choice Specs Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 2...
maybe do 252+ specs tera fairy
molten oasis
Oh blog I see
fleet quarry
DAMN
mighty stump
Thats like modifier after modifier
tired sage
maybe do 252+ specs tera fairy
i did say itll live the set that i run-
onyx charm
Tofu 
keen karma
https://vxtwitter.com/CbuttyVGC/status/1737100037186855037
stat boosts?
mighty stump
Tofu <:gibhug:805403578328023050>
onyx charm
Max Attack 236 HP 20 Def
molten oasis
What if the speed was in defense tofu? Would that live kowtow
onyx charm
also the build
tired sage
yeah water spooder does that xD
molten oasis
actually I’ll just look
keen karma
gotta love araquanid
onyx charm
keen karma
nobody on ladder has used it correctly btw
mighty stump
Still bad though, I don't think Araquanid is good
tired sage
also pretty good for a TR rain team :0
keen karma
nobody on ladder has used it correctly btw
not that i have faced i mean
onyx charm
yeah it was probably for the memes
mighty stump
It's like another content mon
tired sage
yeah i guess so
keen karma
It's like another content mon
what mons in this dlc arent content mons to you
besides the 3 you mentioned earlier
mighty stump
The good ones.
Whimsicott
Wake
Idk if you managed to read my first message correctly but there was an "or" there
Its either alright "or" content
tired sage
whimsy
fleet quarry
Is Dragon Cheer good? I kinda miss the SL Hydreigon days
onyx charm
bonus meme i saw after that
fleet quarry
Does seem like a niche move tho
mighty stump
Does seem like a niche move tho
At least it bypasses Protect so thats something.
keen karma
what about the iron swords
keen karma
crown was super fun on bo3 ladder
fleet quarry
bonus meme i saw after that
helping hand
it was another incin
keen karma
i have yet to touch leaves or boulder though
tired sage
crown was super fun on bo3 ladder
speedy eforce is interesting
i saw someone bring all three iron swords..
and swept them with heat wave xD
fleet quarry
Meh, could be gimmicky
Would be really funny if a prankster mon got it
keen karma
one thing i hate about crown though is the moveset is so shallow
mighty stump
Lmao if you just scarf urshifu on this team its free
molten oasis
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 204 HP / 140 SpD Farigiraf: 204-240 (92.3 - 108.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO either I did this calc wrong or it’s calm nature
molten oasis
Lmao if you just scarf urshifu on this team its free
Who?
mighty stump
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 204 HP / 140 SpD Far...
Timid.
molten oasis
Oh timid flutter
mighty stump
Who?
Im suggesting either Scarf Shifu or you run Sticky SYrup Hydrapple with a Bundle
molten oasis
You think calm would be a fine enough nature to use tho?
mighty stump
y tho
molten oasis
Living modest I think matters
mighty stump
Hasn't been relevant
molten oasis
Ah ok
mighty stump
I stopped calcing for Modest if I can't spare the EVs
I'm always fine with reducing offense but i;m not fine with reducing other bulk
bold geode
Im suggesting either Scarf Shifu or you run Sticky SYrup Hydrapple with a Bundle
Which Shifu
keen karma
I stopped calcing for Modest if I can't spare the EVs
one question about calcing for hp do you have like a specific hp value you always start at or you just start at random?
onyx charm
me not knowing anything about comp but like to share kinda useful stuff from my local league challenge things and memes
molten oasis
I stopped calcing for Modest if I can't spare the EVs
Mk
I’ll just run that ev spread then
mighty stump
one question about calcing for hp do you have like a specific hp value you alway...
Depends. I start at max HP and tweak the HP values depending on the rolls post defensive investment
mighty stump
Which Shifu
Water.
Gives you a faster option into Lando-I and Flutter and just work around Amoonguss.
keen karma
lando i really rose out of nowhere
mighty stump
Either you run Tera Grass Kingambit if you want to run black glasses but its approximately the same boost anyways
vs Tera Dark
bold geode
Goggles Fairy not it?
molten oasis
Im suggesting either Scarf Shifu or you run Sticky SYrup Hydrapple with a Bundle
So are you saying do the ability and bomb with Hydrapple?
mighty stump
So are you saying do the ability and bomb with Hydrapple?
You dont need the bomb
just the ability
molten oasis
Oh, we’ll do shifu then. I think Hydrapple gets more value out of regenerator on this team
mighty stump
If you also want a different mode you can run Screens or something.
molten oasis
Hmm
bold geode
Can the disruptive Grimmsnarl work?
molten oasis
Adding a flutter is the last place I’m going 🫠
fallen garden
try eviolite misdreavous
ember linden
Flutterphobe
mighty stump
Then just run Sash Pao to boost Kingambit, deal with Lando-I/Amoonguss/Flutter as well
molten oasis
Flutterphobe
Shush you know my feeling on mane
ember linden
Shush you know my feeling on mane
Lol
mighty stump
try eviolite misdreavous
Try not shitposting during real advice
keen karma
😂
onyx charm
also this weekend league challenge moment, with an oopsie mon that was banned midway
they wont tell us what it was tho for some reason 
keen karma
oh
tired sage
also this weekend league challenge moment, with an oopsie mon that was banned mi...
:0
uhhhhh
strange…
onyx charm
yeah its weird but idk how that works so 
bold geode
also this weekend league challenge moment, with an oopsie mon that was banned mi...
It was Infernape
Source: Trust me bro
keen karma
It was Infernape
Source: Trust me bro
ive been telling you i made a meta team with it
tired sage
wait it was banned-
how does that work-?
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/e8c8f78eaf72e94f so like, this good for now tofu?
fallen garden
how do you ban a mon halfway through a league challenge
keen karma
https://pokepast.es/e8c8f78eaf72e94f so like, this good for now tofu?
what is shifu calced for
molten oasis
Idk
ember linden
https://pokepast.es/e8c8f78eaf72e94f so like, this good for now tofu?
Forgot to apply the new fari spread
molten oasis
Shit right
tired sage
for giraffe-?
molten oasis
Shifu
ember linden
Urshi
tired sage
:0
i just run max max jolly for shifu…
ember linden
I do too but that’s another standard one
tired sage
although it’s prob better to run adamant…?
molten oasis
Yes
molten oasis
Bro just go 252 adamant 212 speed 44 sp.def
What does that do
ember linden
I fucking hate speed ties so
molten oasis
I think shifus have started going bulkier
ember linden
What does that do
212 is a good benchmark max attack throw 44 into sp.def
molten oasis
Mk
keen karma
also why not just take evs off of speed yeah
you have just enough to outspeed lando
tired sage
huh…
+1 252 Atk Annihilape Rage Fist vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Armarouge: 116-140 (60.4 - 72.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
tired sage
https://x.com/vgccorner/status/1737299003312656806?s=46&t=MNRLY0fyCI16nxLOhTMDHw...
perish trap
ember linden
huh…
+1 252 Atk Annihilape Rage Fist vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Armarouge: 116-140 (60....
It’ll most definitely have taken chip up to the point of +1
tired sage
it didn’t…
can i dm you a replay
ember linden
Was there no indeedee?
I’m good, that just seems improbable.
Not really a relevant calc anyway nowadays unless you just wanted to bring it up.
Bc there are better expanding force users
molten oasis
Mhmm
tired sage
Bc there are better expanding force users
i mean…
polar canyon
I think eject pack draco meteor pivot wake was one of my dumber ideas
ember linden
Lmao
polar canyon
Not with the 70% incineroar usage
Getting the incineroar killer out of the field when incineroar comes in
ember linden
Tofu where you at
What do you think abt this https://pokepast.es/481faef9e28f9957
@mighty stump
gentle notch
Good or no? https://pokepast.es/2fe17b1d991c9854
queen monolith
Outside of bleakwind storm and ev training. I got a team ready just about
true niche
Incineroar, Rillaboom, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike 💀
nimble epoch
Haven’t done any ranked games yet in Pokémon Violet and was looking to make a hard trick room team with Sinistcha and iron hands was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a team
latent path
Do I make Archludon a physical attacker or a special attacker?
Not asking for competitive reasons I just don’t know what to go for, and figured I ask people who had good advice for Tera raid builds or just general move sets
unkempt flax
I love beat up whim + ape
rancid delta
Do I make Archludon a physical attacker or a special attacker?
Spatk for sure
It’s highest offensive stat is spatk, and it’s signature move is special based + boosts your special attack before launching next turn.
hollow hatch
there's too many iron hands, and manes, and as someone mentioned before no steel or electric coverage equals broken kneecaps
ember linden
Calm Mind Raging Bolt with Booster Sp.atk 
mighty stump
It’s highest offensive stat is spatk, and it’s signature move is special based +...
Its signature move is so giga bait
sadge
ember linden
Fr
mighty stump
What do you think abt this https://pokepast.es/481faef9e28f9957
In a way id consider goggles on raging bolt too, but looks fine to me
Goggles will help anchor better
ember linden
Hm
I’ll have to try that.
Actually I’m not even gonna test both I really don’t want amoongus ragepowdering away my shit
I’m going to be in a position to get calm mind up with f-o or intim+fake-out most of the time anyway
summer shore
@mighty stump would you rather hit legs or play 100 1.1k elo games
brisk hatch
I just made it to area 0 underdepths.. where should I save to reset if I need to change terapagos ivs?
Or does it even need low speed iv?
Plz no big spoilers
pseudo zinc
Does any of the legendarys 0 in any stats to be viable
pseudo zinc
Base speed is 85
gentle cragBOT
<@431835793225416714> thanks
pokeman1986 has given 1 Gen Rep to nameless5258
brisk hatch
It sounds viable in TR with no good speed iv.
Do yiu know where I can save to reset if I don't like it's ivs?
I got lucky with Bloodmoon and got decent speed iv.
And I actually forgot to save before..lol. 😅
pseudo zinc
You can save in the room with trapagos just will have to move slowly to not trigger the cut scene
Good hydrapple
Do you happen to know if any of the returning legends need 0 in any stats
molten oasis
Not really
ember linden
Do you happen to know if any of the returning legends need 0 in any stats
Dialga is a good tr setter that would like a speed IV of zero.
pseudo zinc
Can you get dialga with 0 since it in a raid
Should specify that I’m a doubles player
I was talking about the legends from dlc but appreciate the suggestion
molten oasis
Yes you can get one from the raid
ember linden
Dialga is a returning legend soo
empty haven
Thinking of making a Terapagos team what held item would it run
ember linden
Dialga is a returning legend soo
In terms of coming back to VGC in sv
ember linden
Thinking of making a Terapagos team what held item would it run
Ubers?
empty haven
In game for later
ember linden
I wouldn’t worry about that till the time comes
empty haven
Ight
true niche
TIL perish song does not affect gholdengo
lofty tartan
In game for later
It's also extremely likely Terapagos is restricted, and therefore not legal in any format that doesn't allow box legends.
He's the only new mon you can't run on ladder. Not showdown.
empty haven
Unfortunate
lofty tartan
It sounds viable in TR with no good speed iv.
Do yiu know where I can save to r...
Terapagos is locked at perfect IVs in all but Attack, which is locked at 15.
Hardy nature.
Paradox legends are all locked at 20 in every stat
empty haven
Incineroar gets knock off?
mighty stump
It does.
true niche
im competing in this. https://twitter.com/cobalt_poke8128/status/1736885210615328773 who else will i see?
polar pike
Can someone link me to a good indigo mask team? I asked in #indigo_disk-ussion and nobody had one, i figured this wouldn't spoil anything
(Preferably with evs, training evs is fun)
lofty tartan
You can take basically anything 70+ through Indigo Disk without issues.
tidal blade
thats what ive been using
timber falcon
Why is regigigas in regulation f
next stump
he’s not a restricted legendary
keen karma
carried by dmax mons
It gets obliterated by moonblqst from specs mane
tidal blade
And you run sun right
i run double weather
archaludon, urshifu, incin, flutteryu, torn
chiyu melts everything its crazy
keen karma
im probably gonna do hard sun
pliant kelp
Hello. Question! I changed the date on my switch to a time in the past to catch a pokemon with a specific mark (my birthday) this pokemon wasn't available at this specific time. Would it still be legal to use even though the date captured doesn't match availability?
It came out in the newest dlc^
mighty stump
Hello. Question! I changed the date on my switch to a time in the past to catch ...
I probably wouldn't go to events with it
But otherwise it's fine on the ladder.
mighty stump
Neat
karmic temple
Maybe we’ll get a battle facility in that dlc 🥲
pliant kelp
I probably wouldn't go to events with it
Interesting. Thank you. So changing the date on the switch makes the pokemon potentially illegal at an event?
gentle cragBOT
Interesting. Thank you. So changing the date on the switch makes the pokemon pot...
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mighty stump
Yes.
nocturne holly
I caught my shiny incineroar on April fools day 2024 😭
nocturne holly
I haven’t done the dialga and palkia raids yet broo
I can transfer from home tho right
next stump
did they update the showdown UI
chrome knot
Maybe we’ll get a battle facility in that dlc 🥲
its just an event distribution..
nimble epoch
I haven’t done any online games for Violet (only did them in sword and shield) currently trying to make a Trick Room team with Sinistcha and Iron hands does anyone have any suggestions for Pokémon?
next stump
why does my shit look like this
nocturne holly
lmao
chrome knot
tf is THAT
nocturne holly
idk sometimes the ui appears black
I also love skeledirge and pelipper on the same team 🥰
karmic temple
Make skeledirge great again
nocturne holly
fr
summer shore
if youre zoomed in
SmartOUf
warm axle
Is anyone able to help me with making a team please? If you can could you dm me:)
grizzled thistle
Hello fine ladies and gentleman! If there are those who wish to challenge someone and be rewarded regardless of outcome check out my challenge over at #1046572041421197352. Shinies will be given to those who agree to battle!
whole ibex
why does my shit look like this
Skeledirge the play?!? 👀
dull ibex
Skeledirge the play?!? 👀
no its not
whole ibex
Ik
dull ibex
d oyou?
orchid falcon
i just saw someone on youtube run contrary Hyrdapplin and its rediculous
keen karma
i just saw someone on youtube run contrary Hyrdapplin and its rediculous
It doesnt get contrary
whole ibex
It doesnt get contrary
Skill swap
orchid falcon
It doesnt get contrary
Oh ye he ran Skill Swap Malamar
forgot to mention that part
whole ibex
Oh ye he ran Skill Swap Malamar
I saw that
orchid falcon
hehe Draco Meteor stab go brrrrrrr
tired sage
i just saw someone on youtube run contrary Hyrdapplin and its rediculous
that sounds... interesting...
next stump
oh shit Psychic Noise procs throat spray
tired sage
yeah it does...
it also procs liquid voice xD
whole ibex
Y’all think empoleon can do something now with Incin in the game?
tired sage
Y’all think empoleon can do something now with Incin in the game?
yeah its always been able to do something xD
whole ibex
Oh yeah forgot tofu used it
keen karma
oh shit Psychic Noise procs throat spray
Ive had that on my mind for the longest but in practice is it good
Psychic noise + hyper voice
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
I personally would rather have ice beam over psychic noise on Primarina
molten oasis
Unless your av or specs
keen karma
Especilly next to kingambit
keen karma
nothing really uses drain punch
Hands???
molten oasis
Farigiraf walls annihilape
keen karma
Thats huge
tidal blade
but tbh i havent been seeing many hands
keen karma
It also disables horn leech
molten oasis
Because of psychic noise
tidal blade
its always either incin or rilla for fake out
tidal blade
Because of psychic noise
i alos havent seen someone use psychic noise a single time
molten oasis
I use it lol
tidal blade
i dont think ive seen anyone use the new moves on me yet except the signature ones
molten oasis
It’s an amazing move on farigiraf
https://pokepast.es/89f4dc5edf01c97e here’s my paste
This team is hard to pilot, still making it a rental look forward to that 
tidal blade
i love trying out a different team style each reg
molten oasis
Tr is a new playstyle for me, which is what this is
tidal blade
Reg D was TR, Reg E was Screens, now im using double weather for reg F
molten oasis
Gl doing double weather with torn existing
tidal blade
i might use Walking Wake since its good in both rain and sun
tidal blade
Gl doing double weather with torn existing
thats my weather setter
whole ibex
https://pokepast.es/89f4dc5edf01c97e here’s my paste
What does Urshifu live with that investment
molten oasis
Oh so sunny day rain dance Tornadus?
tidal blade
yes
molten oasis
What does Urshifu live with that investment
It’s just leftover evs
molten oasis
Nice
tidal blade
i love leading archaludon tornadus
tidal blade
because most people expect torn to run cloak so they dont bother faking it out
and if they fake out archaludon then i get a free defense buff
I lived a brick break from kingambit with a 2x defense buff
it did like 15%
snarl chiyu actually scares me
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2016107896-v9hjnallhegib3e313nj12gvirgfjrvpw
ionic shell
why does some ogerpon fire have follow me
ionic shell
okay ty
neat kayak
Well Terapagos was already banned
The trend of sv legends being broken in OU is still going strong
tidal blade
would anyone happen to have a good raging bolt spread
tired sage
max max ig…
it’s pretty beefy in its stats so
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
ember linden
https://pokepast.es/89f4dc5edf01c97e here’s my paste
Why are you min speed fari
tired sage
min speed with 28 speed EVs…
ember linden
i alos havent seen someone use psychic noise a single time
I also use it
It’s probably a mistake he didn’t catch
tired sage
psychic noise is great-
heal block
ember linden
Tr is a new playstyle for me, which is what this is
Soft tr is a great place to start.
tidal blade
yeah i love tr balance
a tr setter, a tr abuser, 2 mid speed mon that can be used in and out of tr, and 2 fast offensive mon
my reg D team was cresselia, ursaluna, heatran, rillaboom, flutter, and wurshifu
tired sage
tr is fun
i wonder if you can tell if i like tr or not…
ember linden
I only really like regular balance.
A friend and I made this a fee days ago https://pokepast.es/9900104513905e7a
tidal blade
i want to use raging bolt but idk what to pair it with
i was thinking double weather torn and use weather ball
ember linden
Look at my team lol
ember linden
i was thinking double weather torn and use weather ball
Please do not do that.
next stump
i've seen hella raging bolt on just bulky balance teams, gives Urshifu a real tough time
ember linden
well im already running weather
Double weather is so bad. The whole point of walking wake is you play it on one weather(sun or rain), and have it as a main damage dealer that can also work in the opposing weather matchup.
tidal blade
Double weather is so bad. The whole point of walking wake is you play it on one ...
ive been having success with it
tired sage
Double weather is so bad. The whole point of walking wake is you play it on one ...
wait does sun hydro steam do more damage then rain hydro steam…?
or does it give the same boosts…?
tidal blade
it does the same amount
ember linden
https://pokepast.es/61731ccf3dd13161
I thought you meant like pelipper torkoal on one team mb💀.
That’s probably fine just don’t have chi-yu in rain or urshi in sun lmao
tidal blade
chiyu in rain isnt awful if youre locked into a dark move and your opponent doesnt have a water type
at the very least it turns off protosythesis for the enemy
ember linden
In situations where you’d rather use a fire move ofc
And situations where’d you’d rather use surging too
That’s what I meant by that.
next stump
you almost never want to run max special defense or defense investment without investing a lot into HP, except for rare scenarios
amber patrol
By spd I meant speed
keen karma
you almost never want to run max special defense or defense investment without i...
Opin on serperior?
amber patrol
Im thinking supercell slam, ice punch, trailblaze, and maybe thunder wave as the moveset
Not sure what item too
ember linden
Is this singles?
next stump
rank 1's team right now, just matched into him
amber patrol
I'm gonna try 252 atk 252 speed on electivire since it's speed stat isn't too bad
Wait, follow me could be a cool option paired with motor drive and Blastoise
ember linden
If you want follow me go eviolite electabuzz
amber patrol
Ill not run follow me then
ember linden
I wouldn’t recommend Electivire if you want to be serious about doubles.
amber patrol
I wouldn’t recommend Electivire if you want to be serious about doubles.
It's mostly for the indigo disk story lol
Just thought it'd be fun to build a VGC team for it and be able to use some kinda ass pokemon
amber patrol
I mean, i wanna build a doubles competitively viable team
ember linden
Electivire is power crept.
ember linden
Wild charge is better than supercell.
amber patrol
Recoil damage every time you use it
ember linden
+10 more power in exchange for a 5% chance you lose half your health is so bad
amber patrol
+10 more power in exchange for a 5% chance you lose half your health is so bad
Isn't wild charge 85 power?
ember linden
Especially on a Pokémon that is already worse than something like an Iron Hands. Wild charge is base 90 power
molten oasis
Why are you min speed fari
It shouldn’t be that’s a paste error
ember linden
It shouldn’t be that’s a paste error
Yeah I made it clear to others that was what it most likely was.
amber patrol
Especially on a Pokémon that is already worse than something like an Iron Hands....
How much does leftovers heal compared to wild charge recoil?
ember linden
How much does leftovers heal compared to wild charge recoil?
It does 1/4 recoil of the damage dealt to a mon you hit with wild charge
I imagine Electivire’s best set is AV
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/c9c9c60f73dfc1d6 current paste
ember linden
I could be wrong but it looks like that
amber patrol
Not sure if i should run 252 hp wild charge or 252 speed supercell then aaaagh
ember linden
Leftovers would heal 1/12 of electivire’s hp
amber patrol
So not enough
molten oasis
Supercell sucks
If it goes into protect or misses it wipes half your hp
Do not do supercell lol
amber patrol
Yeah, doesn't make it automatically bad
molten oasis
Who uses high jump kick? As it’s the same move technically
amber patrol
I've seen high jump kick on mega Blaziken in the past
ember linden
I believe someone in the hitmon trio might?
molten oasis
So 3 gens ago
molten oasis
I believe someone in the hitmon trio might?
Prob hitmonlee, not that any of the hitmons are great
amber patrol
I believe someone in the hitmon trio might?
Ok but who uses the hitmon trio 
ember linden
He asked a question so I answered.
And it further proved his point on how bad it is.
molten oasis
Do you know anything that uses high jump kick right now?
amber patrol
Oh electivire gets bulk up too now
next stump
tsareena if you ever see it usually has it
ember linden
Correct.
amber patrol
Do you know anything that uses high jump kick right now?
Might start seeing it on Blaziken if anyone starts using them
tidal blade
rank 1's team right now, just matched into him
archaludon users 🆙
molten oasis
Might start seeing it on Blaziken if anyone starts using them
Blaziken would rather close combat tbh
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
amber patrol
Blaziken would rather close combat tbh
I guess
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
ember linden
Oh electivire gets bulk up too now
You could either do AV or a bulk up set for Electivire to get it the most success.
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
amber patrol
You could either do AV or a bulk up set for Electivire to get it the most succes...
What's AV I don't know
ember linden
What's AV I don't know <:GengarSad:669500451795763209>
Assault Vest
molten oasis
Oof 3 physical stab
amber patrol
Assault Vest
I forgor
ember linden
I forgor
Have to run all damaging moves, but your Special Defense stat is multiplied by 1.5x
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
amber patrol
Electivires max HP is 354, so not much
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/c9c9c60f73dfc1d6 current paste
what’s the new scarfshifu spread for
molten oasis
General bulk
Well, I think it lives freeze dry or something
I’ve used this spread for a while it’s fine
amber patrol
If only vital spirit didn't make rest fail then I could have some fun with that
amber patrol
Max HP, wild charge, 3 wild charges and rest
ember linden
I have a good matchup into it
molten oasis
If it’s unaware dozo I intim and parting cycle
If it’s oblivious I set up gambit on it
ember linden
If it’s unaware dozo I intim and parting cycle
Same, if it isn’t I set up raging bolt
molten oasis
Ideally inside tr
One I feel good about the hydrspple team I’ll prob move to gouging fire
That won’t be for a while
I’m considering if av is worth it on Hydrapple atm
ember linden
I feel it should be used as a support mon
amber patrol
They should of given electivire rock head or wreckless ong
molten oasis
I really don’t like it’s support options literally being worse amoonguss
But can also hit hard
Like I do not think support is the way to go on it, cuz you literally just run amoonguss otherwise
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
Yeaaa it just be a yawn recover bot at that point, and that’s kinda lame tbh
ember linden
Like a Yawn bot with good damage
molten oasis
It’s kinda interesting but I don’t think I’m doing that personally
ember linden
Protect, Yawn, Fickle beam giga drain with lefties
molten oasis
Maybe on a different team. Building around support is a lot harder than building around an offensive Mon
ember linden
Protect, Yawn, Fickle beam giga drain with lefties
Would help you fish for high power fickle beams
molten oasis
Also makes this team play very differently
ember linden
Yeah fs
nocturne holly
Like I do not think support is the way to go on it, cuz you literally just run a...
doesn’t even get spore smh
amber patrol
How much HP does life dew restore?
molten oasis
I think the current hydrspple set is fine btw
tidal blade
25% iirc
nocturne holly
How much HP does life dew restore?
25%
molten oasis
How much HP does life dew restore?
25%
The hits hydrspple can take with av is very nice
amber patrol
Would life dew be better than aqua ring on a Blastoise?
molten oasis
Yk maybe the team is good and it doesn’t need anymore change s
nocturne holly
The hits hydrspple can take with av is very nice
can you take a Tera fairy specs moonblast 252+
amber patrol
I just realized I can do a very fun bulky support Blastoise build
molten oasis
I’m getting an itch to run one of the other dragons
molten oasis
can you take a Tera fairy specs moonblast 252+
Yes cigar, a DRAGON TYPE is gonna take specs Tera fsiry moonblast
Hands is like
nocturne holly
Yes cigar, a DRAGON TYPE is gonna take specs Tera fsiry moonblast
but guess who can
molten oasis
The only thing that doesn’t explode to hands, shut up don’t
I’m not adding hands
I like how the team plays I’m not changing anything
nocturne holly
W
molten oasis
Yes honestly now that I think about it
The team is prob good to go without needing changes
molten oasis
I’ll need to test more to mark down mu’s
amber patrol
Gonna run a bulky support Blastoise this gonna go crazy with archaludon
molten oasis
Is a Google sheets that tracks your teams data as you play games
ember linden
THAT EXISTS?
molten oasis
Mhmm
molten oasis
I’ve wanted to use PASRS to track my games to see what I could have been doing better
But there’s no reg f PASRS yet
nocturne holly
yea same for me lol
amber patrol
Would muddy water, hydro pump, or water pledge be better?
molten oasis
Muddy water or water pledge
nocturne holly
it keeps your mus and shit
tracks moves and data
molten oasis
Hydro pump is cringe
amber patrol
Hydro pump is cringe
I ain't never missed a hydro pump
molten oasis
That move effectively has a 50% hit rate
nocturne holly
Hydro pump is cringe
guess what
YOURE CRINGE HAH
molten oasis
I ain't never missed a hydro pump <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
Bruh how
amber patrol
That move effectively has a 50% hit rate
Blud think they mandjtv
molten oasis
Hydro missing cost me top cut at a tournament
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
amber patrol
Hydro missing cost me top cut at a tournament
That's actually depressing
molten oasis
Ik
amber patrol
molten oasis
I was pissed
amber patrol
I'll keep hydro pump for now (mostly cuz the animation)
nocturne holly
how much does giga drain actually heal hydrapple
molten oasis
how much does giga drain actually heal hydrapple
50% damage taken
nocturne holly
50% damage taken
ik but how much of hydrapple is that
amber patrol
How's this on a rain dish 252 sp atk HP Blastoise
molten oasis
How tf am I supposed to know those numbers man
nocturne holly
doesn’t sound like a lot with 75bp
ember linden
Do you like any good mons Lucy?
amber patrol
Do you like any good mons Lucy? <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
I like torterra and kommo-o
molten oasis
It heals a ton from shifu
molten oasis
I like torterra and kommo-o
Torterra isn’t very good. Kommo-o is fun tho
amber patrol
Torterra isn’t very good. Kommo-o is fun tho
Torterra is actually amazing with trick room tbh
ember linden
Torterra isn’t very good. Kommo-o is fun tho
Almost word for word wrote what you said 💀
molten oasis
Lmao
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
ember linden
That is a wild statement
molten oasis
Ah so it loses to, most tr sweepers lol
amber patrol
Loaded dice, bullet seed, shell armour, synthesis, water tera, trick room torterra is the best thing ever
amber patrol
Ah so it loses to, most tr sweepers lol
You don't see tr much anymore though so I'm safe
amber patrol
Loaded dice, bullet seed, shell armour, synthesis, water tera, trick room torter...
Oh and curse
amber patrol
Not true at all whatsoever
I didn't when playing reg E
molten oasis
no wonder you feel good about it it’s a curse Mon
ember linden
I didn't when playing reg E
YOU didn’t.
amber patrol
molten oasis
Which uh, snorlax is better there
amber patrol
Which uh, snorlax is better there
Yeah but torterra is cooler
I love using ass pokemon 
ember linden
I disagree
molten oasis
I hope tofu didn’t see that
ember linden
I disagree with Torterra being better than Snorlax
molten oasis
Yk what I’m gonna go mess with gouging fire today
I’m gonna wait for PASRS I think to keep going with the hydrspple team
amber patrol
I disagree with Torterra being better than Snorlax
Never said better I said cooler
molten oasis
It’ll help pinpoint what needs to change (except me not playing out of my fucking mind)
ember linden
I meant cooler Lucy
tired sage
i heard tr and now i’m here-
amber patrol
i heard tr and now i’m here-
I love using mid pokemon in trick room
amber patrol
Psyspam especially
I haven't played any reg F so I wouldn't know
tired sage
psyspam is a really common archetype rn
tired sage
I haven't played any reg F so I wouldn't know
no even in reg e
molten oasis
I really do feel like reg f is reg e 2.0
amber patrol
I got up to ultra ball in reg E and never saw it
amber patrol
I really do feel like reg f is reg e 2.0
Reg E but with more lame pokemon for me to use :3
nocturne holly
I really do feel like reg f is reg e 2.0
Tbh reg e was reg d 2.0
ember linden
i heard tr and now i’m here-
Off with you! Get this armarouge helper out of my face
molten oasis
I don’t think anything is dethroning tornshifu
amber patrol
My main vgc team is armadeedee
nocturne holly
I don’t think anything is dethroning tornshifu
it has more counters tho
molten oasis
Like outright dethroning
molten oasis
it has more counters tho
Yea raging bolt and Archa (kinda)
tired sage
Off with you! Get this armarouge helper out of my face<:arkeknine:66950043274104...
but…
How ‘bout no
molten oasis
That’s it
nocturne holly
Yea raging bolt and Archa (kinda)
archa is still good into it
Wbt hydrapple?
ember linden
<:GengarSad:669500451795763209> but…
How ‘bout no <:arkeknine:669500432741040129...
I hope you like Heatran Kingambit
amber patrol
Would water or grass tera be better on electivire? I was thinking grass because trailblaze, but probably water because motor drive
molten oasis
Torn kinda makes it not as good
amber patrol
Would water or grass tera be better on electivire? I was thinking grass because ...
- ice punch for grass types
molten oasis
Hydrapple is good into urshifu, not necessarily torn
tired sage
I hope you like Heatran Kingambit
i’m slowly going towards hard tr instead of just psyspam which means i’ll prop use a gambit
dapper crag
whats a good doubles moveset for these dudes?
molten oasis
Av in a 1v1 should beat it
tired sage
hydrapple OP…
well you gotta be in the right situation but still…
molten oasis
I’ll be back I’m gonna go cook a gouging fire team
amber patrol
whats a good doubles moveset for these dudes?
Probably that for incineroar
molten oasis
hydrapple OP…
*well you gotta be in the right situation but still…*
sigh I wish it was better
I think it’s typing REALLY holds it back
tired sage
I’ll be back I’m gonna go cook a gouging fire team
it gets heat crash so something like sunny torn heat crash atk proto…
dapper crag
Probably that for incineroar
aight
molten oasis
Knock off over throat chop
amber patrol
Hot take: draco meteor sucks
molten oasis
Hot take: draco meteor sucks
Heavily depends on the Mon
tired sage
I think it’s typing REALLY holds it back
yeah…
still pretty useful tho…
molten oasis
I think Draco is good on raging bolt and Archaludon
amber patrol
Heavily depends on the Mon
If it gets dragon pulse draco meteor is instantly useless
molten oasis
No
tired sage
Hot take: draco meteor sucks
hot take
Incin is overrated
molten oasis
That’s just not true
ember linden
Hot take: draco meteor sucks
Oh boy
molten oasis
Dragon pulse hits like a wet noodle half the time
tired sage
If it gets dragon pulse draco meteor is instantly useless
huh-
no draco is better cause more damage…
amber patrol
huh-
no draco is better cause more damage…
And -2 sp attack
molten oasis
Fickle beam gets a pass because of its secondary effect
tired sage
And -2 sp attack
but worth the trade off-
nocturne holly
*hot take*
Incin is overrated
incin is like one of the healthiest mons in the mega right now
ember linden
Dragon pulse hits like a wet noodle half the time
Unless your name is Raging Bolt
molten oasis
Someone gets it
nocturne holly
by no means is it overrated
amber patrol
Fickle beam gets a pass because of its secondary effect
What the fuck is fickle beam
molten oasis
True raging bolt
nocturne holly
Unless your name is Raging Bolt
real
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
tired sage
incin is like one of the healthiest mons in the mega right now
yeah i know i was joking xD
i have one on my team too
molten oasis
Id argue you do this on Hydrapple unless you’re support
amber patrol
What the hell 
molten oasis
If you’re support then you do Draco and giga drain or fickle and leaf storm
amber patrol
Wait omg archaludon gets stamina
tired sage
support hydrapple…?
does it run pollen puff…?
molten oasis
support hydrapple…?
does it run pollen puff…?
You could
I don’t think support is the way to go
ember linden
Dude what the fuck is the mon to use in the tournament money farm my chi-yu with max sp.atk max hp keeps fucking dying
tired sage
it’s what i’m running…
pollen puff
fickle beam
earth power
energy ball
molten oasis
I like offensive hydrspple a lot more
nocturne holly
Wait omg archaludon gets stamina
Yea it does lol
molten oasis
Dude what the fuck is the mon to use in the tournament money farm my chi-yu with...
Bruh
molten oasis
it’s what i’m running…
pollen puff
fickle beam
earth power
energy ball
I’m also running that
tired sage
its sole purpose is damage and then pollen puff for healing
ember linden
Dude what the fuck is the mon to use in the tournament money farm my chi-yu with...
The trainers in it got new mons and it’s fucking stupid
nocturne holly
Dude what the fuck is the mon to use in the tournament money farm my chi-yu with...
chi yu is what literally everyone uses lmao
molten oasis
its sole purpose is damage and then pollen puff for healing <:PikaLmao:678990785...
Yep
nocturne holly
oh it got updated?
tired sage
Dude what the fuck is the mon to use in the tournament money farm my chi-yu with...
amulet sylveon
molten oasis
Changing it to support makes it play a very different role
ember linden
chi yu is what literally everyone uses lmao
The trainers got dlc mons, I’ve seen duraludom
amber patrol
I need to get to work on getting TMs
molten oasis
You’re not using dengo for it?
nocturne holly
rip
nocturne holly
You’re not using dengo for it?
no chi yu was better
molten oasis
I’ve seen dengo just sweeps it most of the time
tired sage
oh wait is this for the disk tourney not ace academy-?
molten oasis
no chi yu was better
Oh ok
ember linden
No it is the academy
nocturne holly
the fuck is the disk tourney
molten oasis
K im gonna cook now I’ll be back
tired sage
is that not farmable-
i haven’t played the dlc yet
molten oasis
I think I’m gonna mess with that support build we did yesterday with gouging fire
If you know you know
tired sage
dam i wasn’t there for that-
amber patrol
How do you do that egg move thing again with the mirror herb and picnic
nocturne holly
I think I’m gonna mess with that support build we did yesterday with gouging fir...
what item did you say you were running
ember linden
dam i wasn’t there for that-
It was in a dif server
ember linden
I think I’m gonna mess with that support build we did yesterday with gouging fir...
I wish you luck
nocturne holly
I don’t think ima play vgc at all today
feel like shit
tired sage
How do you do that egg move thing again with the mirror herb and picnic
mirror herb the egg mon, and have one move slot open like no moves so you only have 3 moves total
then transfer move mon is uh… in picnic…
enter picnic and then leave and it should be there
sharp hemlock
does rock head prevent life orb damage?
ember linden
I don’t think it does.
tired sage
does rock head prevent life orb damage?
nope it only prevents recoil moves damage
amber patrol
mirror herb the egg mon, and have one move slot open *like no moves so you only ...
Ok thanks
sharp hemlock
nope it only prevents recoil moves damage
ty
amber patrol
Lapras gets life dew off I go
queen monolith
Can someone help me figure out how to ev train?
amber patrol
Can someone help me figure out how to ev train?
Certain pokemon give certain EVs, kill those pokemon for those EVs
Or if you wanna not be a nerd buy vitamins
tired sage
yeah
tired sage
just use vitamins xD
unless you’re wiling to spend hours
amber patrol
With power items it's not that bad
tired sage
trying to find the right mons is hard enough for me xD
amber patrol
Uhhh what item should I run on Blastoise, alolan Ninetails, and flygon btw
amber patrol
mystic water blasty ig…?
I was thinking damp rock for rain dance
tired sage
uh…
why not just use drizzle or prankster rain dance then…?
ember linden
Those are the only good options.
amber patrol
Because most drizzle pokemon suck or aren't fun
And Blastoise isn't exclusively rain dance
amber patrol
It does not yeah but then I'd have to either get rid of life dew or protect
tidal blade
whats your moveset rn
tired sage
And Blastoise isn't exclusively rain dance
neither are drizzle mons-
amber patrol
Hydro pump, protect, life dew, rain dance
tired sage
also 100% accurate bleakwinds…
tired sage
yeah same with wildbolt and sandsear
amber patrol
Atleast I have electro shot or whatever archaludons new move is
amber patrol
yeah same with wildbolt and sandsear
What the fuck are all these new moves???
What are those???
tired sage
uh
tidal blade
signature moves of the genies
tired sage
the genies signature moves
tidal blade
lando and thundurus respectively
tired sage
yeah…
bleakwind is torn
amber patrol
Oh I thought only tornadus got one
tired sage
nahhhhh.
enam got springtide
amber patrol
Blastoise won't catch life dew aaaaaaaaah
tidal blade
bleakwind is torn
sandsear is lando
wildbolt is thundy
springtide is enamor
amber patrol
GOD DAMN IT
tired sage
what-?
amber patrol
I FORGOT TO GIVE LAPRAS LIFE DEW
I just realised I've been running full offensive alolan ninetails forgetting that aurora veil exists
I have helping hand and nasty plot lol
tired sage
minor panther
they gave great tusk temper flare
no more rapid spin/headlong rush gholdengo/corviknight switch ins anymore
amber patrol
And it has a massive sp atk stat
minor panther
Use reuniclus as a trick room/support Pokémon
thats always been a thing reuniclus has run
at least i think it is
amber patrol
I know but like in scarlet and violet
minor panther
i mean i guess
amber patrol
Because nobody uses reuniclus in gen 9 except me soon
minor panther
it was gonna be run regardless, especially since how trick room is busted in sv now
amber patrol
I can't find a listed location for the supercell slam tm aaah
minor panther
its in the uhh
molten oasis
what item did you say you were running
Booster speed