competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

[fallen rivet]

Ouch

[chrome knot]

omg that reminds me

[mighty stump]

No but in all seriousness it'd benefit from longevity items like Sitrus or Lefties

Since you'd want it to stay on the field

Since the item requires the TR conditional and the mon doesnt really output the best of pressure

It's kinda alright?

[grizzled bronze]

if you're thinking about the speed drop activating competitive, no it does not work

[molten oasis]

Real

Once you start comp you never see anything the same way again

[bold geode]

Yeah I'm tainted

I once saw someone abbreviate something as TR once and my dumbass instantly read Trick Room

[mighty stump]

Genuinely

I can't even play casually without having to run the right category of moves per mon

[bold geode]

Like my brain didn't even read it as TR, it read it as Trick Room

[bold geode]

I deadass would power through with shit before
When I played through DLC, I was like "WHERE'S MY FWG CORE!"

[mighty stump]

Mood

[bold geode]

I also was genuinely surprised when Fake Out brought no value

[mighty stump]

Oh well it's singles

[bold geode]

Yeah but the first time I was like "I can get an advantage now hehehehe....... Oh that's it"

[mighty stump]

Lol?

[dull ibex]

oh my god I play casual pokemon with a vgc mindset

I HATE THAT BOT

[bold geode]

YOu fucker

You triggered the bot

FUCK OFF DANCING ASIANS

[mighty stump]

._.

[dull ibex]

???????

[bold geode]

Good they're gone

[mighty stump]

Did you really have to word it that way

Lol

[fallen rivet]

M*veset triggers a bot?

[dull ibex]

no *mg did

[bold geode]

Dancing women sorta didn't give good context either

[fallen rivet]

Ah

[dull ibex]

fuck off bot is the way to put that.

[bold geode]

Either way, I could get cancelled nowadays Tofu

[bold geode]

Then the blue haired Karen cancels me for prejudice against AI

[dull ibex]

I mean you did give sus wording this isnt even a karen thing lmao

[bold geode]

That's the thing Captain

I'm always sus

[dull ibex]

just word thing betters

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-transforming-gif-7915955

[dull ibex]

anyways'

[mighty stump]

Monke how often do you socialise with real people in public

[bold geode]

Anyways
Red stupid

[bold geode]

A lot yet somehow not a lot

[dull ibex]

yeah I can't play casually fully anymore

[bold geode]

Idk man, the way you fought that Elite 4

[dull ibex]

I did not play that like a casual

I played it like poorly played competitive

[bold geode]

Yeah but you played it dumb lmao

[mighty stump]

I have genuine concern for you Monke

[bold geode]

Literally what was it we said?

[vapid hedge]

I could use a move like lunar blessing for my farigiraf, can someone tell me a good substitute?

[dull ibex]

yeah uh you getting called out for phrasing and doubling down is not the playu

[bold geode]

I do too

[vapid hedge]

I dont have cress so thats not an option

[mighty stump]

Farigiraf doesn't get Lunar Blessing?

[bold geode]

I always have concern for me

[dull ibex]

"the play" god I have brainrot

[mighty stump]

I don't think you want Cress and Farigiraf on the same board at the same time

[bold geode]

Anxiety is WONDERFUL

[mighty stump]

That's really low pressure

[vapid hedge]

“Could use a move LIKE lunar bless” and i dont have cress to replace fari

[mighty stump]

I think I just want you to learn the concept of time and palce

[mighty stump]

None, Farigiraf doesn't want to play healer.

If you want a healing TR setter Sinistcha is your alternative.

[dull ibex]

Sinistcha is super interesting and unexplored

[bold geode]

You see I know time and place
But brain no work

[vapid hedge]

I need it mostly for curing status effects, not for healing

[mighty stump]

You don't really have options for that.

[dull ibex]

then you don't know time and place lmao

[mighty stump]

Safeguard is an alternative but I'm unsure if it gets it

And its more preventative.

[dull ibex]

Which move is safeguard?

[fallen rivet]

Same deal with misty terrain

[bold geode]

Saying something without thinking about it
Is different Red

[dull ibex]

????????

alr.

[bold geode]

Point is I didn't think before I said
So stfu about it

[mighty stump]

That

[dull ibex]

lol

[bold geode]

We moved past it and you brought it up again

[mighty stump]

Doesn't make it any better Monke

[bold geode]

I know

I'm just saying they're different

God I'm not talking about this

Let's just drop again

[dull ibex]

oh it prevents status

[bold geode]

Safeguard and Misty work the same

[dull ibex]

safeguard is a blissey thing tofu no?

[mighty stump]

Cress gets it 💀

Bronzong as well

[dull ibex]

ah fair

bell mon pog

[bold geode]

Yeah
I've never seen Blissey use it once in general

[dull ibex]

I should name my bronzong Bellmont

[bold geode]

Name it Church

[dull ibex]

no

[bold geode]

Actually name it money

Cuz of your crippling ACNH addiction

[dull ibex]

Bellmont

[dull ibex]

tbf 80 hours is not an addiction

my overall gaming hours however...

[fallen rivet]

It depends on how much it consumes one’s time and whether they can function without using it

[dull ibex]

the addiction comment wasn't serious

neither was my reply

[fallen rivet]

Oh nvm sorry

[dull ibex]

I have had a resurgence of playtime on animal crossing

so the joke is that im addicted to it

[fallen rivet]

Ah I see

Apologies for misunderstanding

[dull ibex]

all good

[bold geode]

I can quit anytime

[dull ibex]

its hard to read tone in text

[bold geode]

Red: "Not an addiction. Now where is my bell tree?"

[dull ibex]

I have 600k bells we good

[fallen rivet]

I forgor how many I have

[dull ibex]

I had 1.3m but I had some shizz to pay off

[bold geode]

Actually lemme correct myself
It's not an addiction, you're just saving yourself from the wrath of a greedy raccoon

[dull ibex]

pfft that was paid off days ago

[bold geode]

"Shut up I haven't met my quota yet"

[dull ibex]

my quota is met in an hour 💀

bro doesnt understand effiency

[bold geode]

Because of the fear of the trash pandas presence
He always wants more Red

[dull ibex]

thats the funny part he doesnt

I only talk to him if i want remodel my house now

[bold geode]

HES A CROOK RED

[dull ibex]

(I don't its perfect)

[bold geode]

Damn we lost him folks

[dull ibex]

anyways team isnt clicking again

time to move on

[bold geode]

How long did you have it?

[dull ibex]

idk a few days a week?

[bold geode]

Ok seemed like you had it for way less lmao

[dull ibex]

probably way less

Don't care though

[bold geode]

Like give it some time damn

[dull ibex]

no I got bored

[bold geode]

Average TikTok mindset

[dull ibex]

imagine thinking tiktok invented low attention span ADHD

[bold geode]

Team didn't give instant serotonin, time to change

[dull ibex]

that's how it be

[bold geode]

Maybe not invented but surely does not help lmao

[dull ibex]

I could also start my speedrun

[bold geode]

Of what

[dull ibex]

Oot

[mighty stump]

New competitive team by TPCi guys

[karmic temple]

They cooked 🔥🔥🔥

[bold geode]

Holy shit

[mighty stump]

🔥 🔥 Turning off the stove rn

[bold geode]

It was on?

They heated up the Stouffer's bro

[chrome knot]

what the fuck is that

[mighty stump]

Whats wrong

[chrome knot]

im gonna puke

[dull ibex]

tentacruel is a goated spore user

[bold geode]

Emmie my dog itches

[limpid trench]

Bro how do u make a balanced team, everytime I try there’s 1 type that folds half my team

[tired sage]

i...
interesting...

[fallen rivet]

Surely this is for singles right?

The muscle band frightens and confuses me

[molten oasis]

Man I love lore accurate hariyama

Also god that team hurts my eyes

[dull ibex]

exactly

[fallen rivet]

Good heavens the more I look at that team the more I want to obsessively fix it

[supple ether]

White herb

[supple ether]

Shrimple, use urshifu+tornadus+landorus

(Im not a teambuilder but:) you should, as you're assembling your team imagine mons/moves your opponent is likely to use

"what if fluttermane?", "What about freeze dry"

[tired sage]

ew double genie
who am i kidding i sometimes use double genie as well xD

[supple ether]

The more and more of those questions that you have answers to, the better rounded the team is

[supple ether]

got me to MB rank, I cant complain

[tired sage]

its what got me into 1400 on showdown...
before i dropped 200 xD

[dapper crag]

what is the best nature&moveset for Meowscarada?

[supple ether]

Probably Jolly, if not adamant

Since focus sash

[dapper crag]

damn you've been a real helper Chef H thx again^^

[chrome knot]

womp

[tired sage]

[fallen rivet]

I run flower trick, knock off, play rough, and uturn

[next stump]

howdy y’all

[fallen rivet]

I forget does beak blast pre activate before fake out

[tired sage]

[next stump]

what is beak blast hahaha

[dapper crag]

Move: Beak Blast

If the user is hit by a contact move this turn before it can execute this move, the attacker is burned.

Type

Flying

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

-3

Move Flags

​

Artillery

Does not affect Bulletproof Pokémon.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[tired sage]

toucannon’s signature i think?

[next stump]

i’ve never heard of that move in my life

[tired sage]

tbf i don’t think this has been used much at all

[molten oasis]

You’re using meow?

I’ve got a team with meow sitting in my box if you want ideas

[dapper crag]

sure iv'e just started my playthrough and any help is welcome.

[molten oasis]

Oh it’s a comp team lol

I use band with flower trick play rough knock off/sucker punch and uturn

[dapper crag]

that's a good moveset what iv's did you give it?

[molten oasis]

Max attack max speed jolly

With protean

[dapper crag]

do u use that meowscarada for singles or doubles? or both?

im sorry for asking so much but i am really trying this time to get an solid all around team.

[fallen garden]

Meow has struggled a bit ever since paradox pokemon joined the game

[molten oasis]

Nah dw it’s fine

It’s for doubles, I’d guess it do fine in singles

[molten oasis]

More than a bit sadly lol

[fallen garden]

being weak to hands and flutter is pretty rough

I think it could be good against urshifu if it didn't have so much else to worry about tho

[molten oasis]

Well

Shifu is kinda in the same boat it just does way more damage

Mane never takes a banded flower trick

Banded flower trick is actually pretty strong

But it’s really easy to blow up

[dapper crag]

doesn't stop urshifu-water from being obnoxious to deal with

[nocturne holly]

what’s poppin

I’m too lazy to do kita dex lol

Ig I’ll just speedrun both kita and indigo disc dex in early meta time

[dapper crag]

got 3 days off, gonna grind some ladder with my revamped brute bonnet team

wbu

[nocturne holly]

who are you talking to

[dapper crag]

you lol

[nocturne holly]

oh lol
I’m gonna buy some pc parts
I’m taking a step back from vgc until next reg

[dapper crag]

come on, it's last push. I'm crippled with abominable schedule from 14 to 31 december

got 1 day off

won't be able to play much

[nocturne holly]

I just don’t have any motivation to play rn

[dapper crag]

showdown reg F might be up right around a week or so from what I heard from Dawobble

[nocturne holly]

I hate early reg

[dapper crag]

i like it, so chaotic and it's good for picking the brain, I'm getting better at teambuilding

i might sneak in some on my cellphone if it's not too rushy some nights at the ER

[tough idol]

I'm only looking forward to née Reg because (fingers crossed) I'm Registering for the next Regional near me.

[dapper crag]

I wish I could, spotted some of them but I just can't commit with crazy overtime going around

but money is money

[nocturne holly]

All regionals are 7+ hours away from me

[tough idol]

27th January is mine and time booked off

[nocturne holly]

it fucking sucks

[tough idol]

1 hour train trip for me to Liverpool

[nocturne holly]

Gl

Got anything in mind yet?

[tough idol]

Not a clue atm lmao 🤣 been super busy with work so only just catching up with what's coming back and will be legal lol 😅

[dapper crag]

a whole lot of new tows

I'm giving Entei a run for its money

[next stump]

RIP

[nocturne holly]

I take a hella long time to bring a team into cart
I spend most of my time with a team in showdown
Prob 75%

[nocturne holly]

the nearest premier challenges are also 2+ hours

[bold geode]

Which?

[tough idol]

I've a feeling I may end up with Incin at least.

[tough idol]

Liverpool

[bold geode]

Pog

[next stump]

2 hours for a PC isn’t too terrible, sometimes they host a MSS and a PC on the same day

[dapper crag]

got good advice from my coach, spend little time building the team and play a lot of games with it. adjusting after a serie of games is beneficial vs being back at the drawing board every freaking time trying to cook the perfect iteration

[next stump]

but it is a lot of driving

[nocturne holly]

it’s too much for me lol
i would be in brain rot before set 1

[next stump]

very understandable hahhaa

competing is tough

there’s finally a tournament within 1.5 hours of me happening next week

[karmic temple]

Me getting ready to drive 3 hours to San Antonio Thursday 👁️🫦👁️

[next stump]

that’s so exciting, good luck

[nocturne holly]

W
gl

[fallen rivet]

YAY made it to ultra ball

[nocturne holly]

W

[fallen rivet]

lol thanks

[gentle crag]

wafflefries.787b has given 1 Gen Rep to .begulajr.

[nocturne holly]

ez rep

[fallen rivet]

I’ll probably have to replace my moon once whimsicott comes out tbh

Though that knock off is very nice…

[mighty stump]

y tho

just run both

[keen karma]

metagross roaring weezing gon be meta 😄

[fallen rivet]

Oh true

[nocturne holly]

clear body is always good tho imo

is there a move that bypasses abilities

[fallen rivet]

Sunsteel strike and moongeist beam

[nocturne holly]

W

[smoky hawk]

Why that combination?

I am looking forward to metagross

One of my fav pokemon of all time

It's going to have an interesting interaction with flutter. Both threaten the other

Although bullet punch is prio, so more often metagross should win

May force flutters to do water tera or something like that

[bold geode]

Morning Tofu

[bold geode]

And NOT DRAGON TERA

[smoky hawk]

Hardy har

The meta will be different. Dragon tera might work on metagross tho

That or fire

Or water perhaps

[bold geode]

Meteor Mash still a thing?

[dapper crag]

Metagross [Steel/Psychic]

Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Psychic

Resists (0.5x)

Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Electric, Fighting, Water

Weak (2x)

Dark, Fire, Ghost, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

Move: Meteor Mash

Has a 20% chance to raise the user's Attack by 1 stage.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

90

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[bold geode]

Huh
Thought it had priority

[dapper crag]

Metagross's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Bullet Punch, Cut, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Hammer Arm, Headbutt, Hold Back, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Metal Claw, Meteor Mash, Natural Gift, Power-Up Punch, Psycho Cut, Pursuit, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Steel Roller, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Confusion, Expanding Force, Flash Cannon, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Meteor Beam, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Sludge Bomb, Snore, Steel Beam, Swift

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Block, Confide, Cosmic Power, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Magnet Rise, Mimic, Miracle Eye, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Rock Polish, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Telekinesis, Toxic, Trick

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Metagross.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[bold geode]

Yeah Dragon might work

I am the Dragon Tera guy

Sad I didn't discover Dragon Goldie though

[smoky hawk]

Dragon tera can be good defensively for steel types

Makes flutter and chien pao unsure of what move to use

[dapper crag]

Chien Pao will happily try to pin with Sucker Punch

[smoky hawk]

Good point. Maybe I'll click iron def on that turn

And I'll have body press lol

[bold geode]

Here's the deal right
Dragon Tera is a 50/50 in general right for one very simple reason you actually pointed out

If Chien Pao is still in play once said Mon is tera'd, even things that are usually not susceptible to our chilly kitty are now a bit scared of it

[fallen rivet]

Wait ape likes dragon Tera?

[bold geode]

For example I ran Dragon Hands
Usually handles it well
But I shelved it because once post tera, if I didn't have Pao out of the way due to board states, then Pao could shit on Hands

[bold geode]

Fire

[fallen rivet]

Oh different mon my b

[dapper crag]

Good thing they run Sacred Sword just to ruin this. Chien-Pao is really good to pin a good board in their favor.

Get rid of Chien-Pao so Hoodra can have a good time just one month pls

[nocturne holly]

woah there settle down

[bold geode]

A good amount of them actually have went over to replacing that with Lash Out too so

[nocturne holly]

it’s still fairly low iirc

[bold geode]

Maybe, but regardless, it's a pretty good amount still

And it is threatening too so

[nocturne holly]

Sacred sword is 50%

Lash out is 20%

you should have a plan into it regardless

[next stump]

add up lash out + crunch since they’re essentially the same logic

[nocturne holly]

Wdym?

[dapper crag]

Move: Lash Out

Power doubles if the user had a stat stage lowered this turn.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

75

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[nocturne holly]

Isn’t lash out for intim icy wind etc.

[next stump]

just strong dark STAB that isn’t blocked by psychic terrain or using a status move

yeah they have slightly different functions but the logic behind including them is the same

[nocturne holly]

ah yea nvm

[dapper crag]

Still expecting Sacred Sword, if they have Lash Out, good on them

[bold geode]

I mean eh
Either way ain't horrible

[smoky hawk]

Well, to that I can say that metagross's priority move will go first if it has TW or TR in effect

[bold geode]

Tera Ghost 💀

[dapper crag]

Yeah but stuff happened to get there

Tera Ghost Bundle is real useful that being said

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/the-smurfs-nosey-smurf-binoculars-hmm-well-whats-going-on-over-there-whats-going-on-over-there-gif-22113525

[dapper crag]

really fond of the little penguin as speed control with my Brute Bonnet masterpiece

[bold geode]

Penguin go hard
Grass also wasn't bad if you worried about shroom

[dapper crag]

I've got the shroom but on steroids

[bold geode]

Pollen Puffs your shroom

[dapper crag]

Funnily enough it doesn't deal more than 2/3 to brute bonnet

[bold geode]

But that's a lot of damage

[dapper crag]

Yes for 4time weakness I'd expect to kill

[molten oasis]

Tera ghost bundle is good

Yk, when bundle doesn’t miss hydro pumps

[dapper crag]

The interaction isn't happening too much but I've lived the move to tell the tale

[molten oasis]

Nice

[smoky hawk]

I was also thinking water tera for metagross

[dapper crag]

can't wait to see where the meta is heading

lot of good stuff coming in Reg F

[next stump]

there’s a guy at my locals who has been using brute bonnet lately and topping events

it’s like indeedee arma sunroom stuff

[molten oasis]

Bonnet would be good there

[fallen garden]

metagross? more like gross meta without whimsicott my beloved

[molten oasis]

It’s not like the meta is gonna make a massive shift

[dapper crag]

don't tell my secret strat

[molten oasis]

It’s gonna shift

But not like, a ton

[dapper crag]

I do expect it to shift a ton

We're getting a lot of good Mons in the mix

[molten oasis]

We thought ogrepon was gonna shift the meta

[dapper crag]

ogerpon is a single slot

[molten oasis]

I hardly see it nowadays

Bloodmoon and sini too, Ogerpon is also technically 4 mons

Literally the only mons I think are gonna heavily impact are incin whims and maybe Metagross

[dapper crag]

reg E is like reg D with slight variations, reg F is like the shift from C to D in terms of variation

[fallen garden]

smeargle

scarf spore

[molten oasis]

Smeargle ain’t gonna be that good

[dapper crag]

Smeargle gonna find a way on CTS

[molten oasis]

Scarf shifu 🫵

[dapper crag]

I can assure you

[molten oasis]

In CTS smeargle does well not in OTS

Smeargle also lost access dark void (as far as I’m aware) so no spread sleep cheese

[bold geode]

Yeah
Smeargle need some surprise factor

[fallen garden]

that's what amoongus redirection is for

[bold geode]

Grass tera

[molten oasis]

Tera grass

[fallen garden]

nobody is gonna expect spore smeargle next to rage powder amoongus

[molten oasis]

I am now

[dapper crag]

you just double spore at this point

[cyan smelt]

Smeargle probably won't be good

[dapper crag]

and you let one fall to bring in your sweeper

[bold geode]

Yeah thx for giving me an edge

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to hayato_sensei

[fallen garden]

then how can i make room for pollen puff, leaf storm, and toxic

[molten oasis]

Anyway yea, smeargle isn’t gonna be a menace

[dapper crag]

be imaginative

[molten oasis]

Just annoying

[dapper crag]

I'm having success with Brute Bonnet, anything is possible

[bold geode]

You don't run Toxic
Easy solution

[nocturne holly]

what’s stopping me from unleashing grammar bitch now?

[dapper crag]

is Hayato talking Singles ?

[nocturne holly]

Jk I’ve learned my reason

[dapper crag]

That seems like a Singles moveset they just described

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna block you if you do that again

Cigar

[fallen garden]

no i think he's just joking

[bold geode]

So you are

[molten oasis]

If Metagross gets the omniboost move that was leaked Metagross will be pretty strong

[nocturne holly]

fine

[molten oasis]

However that means single strike urshifu will probably pick up in usage

[nocturne holly]

grammar bitch will be put down

[fallen garden]

anyway, HOME data shows Oger as #5 in doubles usage, but then Sinistcha and Ursa are 21 and 24 in usage

so surprisingly low meta shift

[molten oasis]

I’m more referring to tournament results but yea we thought it would shift more

It’s just reg d 2.0

[next stump]

every tournament is won by torn urshifu hahaha

[dapper crag]

thing si with Home they batch all Ogerpon forms together no ?

[next stump]

I enjoy the format though

[molten oasis]

Yea, which is so lame

[next stump]

but hopefully that shakes up in january/feb

[dapper crag]

Isn't it Hisiuan-Arcanine that wins them all ?

[fallen garden]

especially when Reg D ladder allowed Ogerpon for some reason

[molten oasis]

But the format feels like it’s in a state where we can try new stuff

[molten oasis]

That was funny

[next stump]

yeah but arc is just part of that same team

[molten oasis]

Banded harc won like 3 or 4 regionals

[nocturne holly]

because it’s fucking cracked

banded harc is absolutely insane

[molten oasis]

Incin is gonna make it sad lol

I doubt it’ll go away completely

[nocturne holly]

I think harc will still have place

[molten oasis]

But incin definitely will hurt its usage

[nocturne holly]

again banded harc has so much damage output

[dapper crag]

Iron Hands is Snorlax on crack let's not discount the thingy

Pretty sure Incin + Iron Hands+ Rillaboom is going to be a thing

[molten oasis]

Metagross being meta would be funny

For mane

[nocturne holly]

I think banded Harc will be relatively in the same place
However I think other support oriented Harc sets will go down in usage

[molten oasis]

Cuz bullet punch

[nocturne holly]

I think it would be cool to see water Tera mane again cuz of this

[molten oasis]

Bleh

[nocturne holly]

I think it’ll happen if metagross becomes meta

[fallen garden]

gross

[molten oasis]

I think make would kinda want fire tbh

[next stump]

if metagross top cuts a regional i’ll be shocked

[molten oasis]

So that rillaboom doesn’t blow its ass up

but then shifu blows it up

[nocturne holly]

Your hopes are that low for it haha

[molten oasis]

If it gets the funny omniboost move

It might be good

If that’s actually real

[nocturne holly]

doubt it tho

like no drawbacks is insane

[molten oasis]

It’s a 2 turn charge move

[nocturne holly]

power herb meta gross 👀

[fallen garden]

like geomancy?

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

It’s just 1 Omniboost not 2 tho

[dapper crag]

is meteor beam coming back in the 2nd part of DLC ?

[fallen garden]

Feels right at home for metagross tbh

couldn't tell ya why

[molten oasis]

Probably? Not sure

[dapper crag]

Move: Meteor Beam

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Raises the user's Special Attack by 1 stage on the first turn. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.

Type

Rock

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[molten oasis]

Maybe idk

[dapper crag]

Yeah there is footage showing some Mons using it in the pretest some lucky big Youtubers got to experiment

distribution isn't fully known, but it do be there

[molten oasis]

Oh cool, idk if that’s gonna be super good in vgc

I like the idea of it tho, +1 in spA too would hurt

[dapper crag]

also Zapdos is getting Electroweb

[molten oasis]

[dapper crag]

like that's something

[fallen garden]

zapdos stonks rising through the roof

(i hope)

[dapper crag]

also rotom funnily

[nocturne holly]

W

zapdos is insanely fucking annoying

[dapper crag]

typing is really insane, electric/flying is great

[nocturne holly]

I hate static so fucking much

I also really fucking have thundy-i

[dapper crag]

I experimented with Thundurus a bit recently on the brute bonnet team and it wasn't too bad

[nocturne holly]

prio t wave is also fucking annoying

[dapper crag]

yeah

not as all-out as tailwind, but it gets some nice stuff going your wy

• thundy positions really well into Torn + Urshifu-Water expected lead

spread electric genie move is a great option on both

[nocturne holly]

It would be really good if it got tw

Thank god it didn’t

[molten oasis]

Thundy would prob be used over torn if it for the

But it doesn’t so, torn is meta

[dapper crag]

I'm adding thundy as a firm member of the brute bonnet team

Gonna put all sub-variants of popular Mons

[nocturne holly]

W

[nocturne holly]

The thundy-I meta would be the death of me

[molten oasis]

You wouldn’t like fighting me if you don’t like thundy I lol

[mighty stump]

I’d be expecting Whims/Entei to see use

[cyan smelt]

entei is good because it's intim immune

suicune might be a good tw setter that can't be flinched

[mighty stump]

Rhyperior

[mighty stump]

I mean it sets TW and stays on the field ig but it doesnt rlly do much else

[cyan smelt]

scald

[tired sage]

wait suicune gets tw?

[cyan smelt]

well it did in swsh

[mighty stump]

Wellspring

[dull ibex]

Scald is a bit overrated imo

Atleast in vgc

[chrome knot]

tofu are you alive in 1hour

[dull ibex]

I killed tofu

I used hydro pump

[molten oasis]

Oh I forgot about entei

[molten oasis]

What’s happening in an hour

👀

[dull ibex]

We make fun of drago

[molten oasis]

I’ll be asleep if that happens

[junior pier]

Hey all. Been a while since I've been here

[junior pier]

Why would you possible want to do that

[near crag]

Hi! This is my team: https://pokepast.es/ec87970372445bdf, I’m currently stuck at ultra ball, and I’m clueless about what could I change. Every Pokémon shows use, some changes that come to mind are to get protect out of chien pao, for sucker punch, and also to get protect out of eleki, simply cause I don’t use it a lot, and lastly to get rage powder instead of strength sap. I don’t know if those are good ideas in the slightest, and some problems I face a lot is to let tornadus, gholdengo, and iron hands one HP, regidrago, mane for itself, and my dragonite being slow. Thanks a lot, and I’m sorry for the Ted talk.

[dull ibex]

Very easy to do (I am not serious)

[junior pier]

I love Drago sm

[dull ibex]

He doesn't use flutter

Wait til flutter becomes Uber cracked on unite, he'll avoid it there too

[junior pier]

😂

Funny how flutter has fallen

Through tour usage

[chrome knot]

flutter at the top of her game still

[dull ibex]

Yeah flutter hasn't gone anywhere but

[junior pier]

Tofu now more popular then ever

[molten oasis]

That’s like

[junior pier]

I have 0 problems with Tofu tbh

[molten oasis]

The thing to do

If you’re Red or Monke or Tofu, it’s just tease me central here (it’s all fun and games, usually)

[dull ibex]

(:

[junior pier]

Any of us got any regs coming up?

[molten oasis]

Reg f in less than a month

[junior pier]

Lmao I meant regionals

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-aging-old-gif-14680363

oh, it’s in less than a month

[junior pier]

Sorry if I sound rude 😅

[molten oasis]

Nah you’re good

I’m not, I wish but I’m not

[junior pier]

Lmao me too fr

[dull ibex]

I don't play tourney

[chrome knot]

knoxville my next regional

[junior pier]

I'm at like a stale part of the year where it's like I can't prep for my next regional but like I also have nothing else to play

[chrome knot]

where you @ next?

[junior pier]

You figured out a team yet?🙂

[chrome knot]

i have a team i wanna test in january

[junior pier]

Melbourne

Just did Brisbane a few weeks ago

[chrome knot]

hard to try and predict meta before dlc release

[junior pier]

Yea. Good to theory craft thou

[chrome knot]

that is why i have a team built up & just waiting for showdowns reg f ladder

[junior pier]

Yea I got some adaptations of mine hiding in the teambuilder too

[bold geode]

ACNH?

[dull ibex]

Ughhh ig

[junior pier]

Y'all might recognise my team
https://pokepast.es/cccd7463b843b431

[chrome knot]

how did ifucking know

before clicking it it was gonna be drago psyspam lmao

[junior pier]

Because maybe the names Matchup😁

[near crag]

I lost to this team twice today lmao

[chrome knot]

yus

[junior pier]

I'm the original creator of the team

[chrome knot]

im aware

[junior pier]

[junior pier]

Sorry about that 😅

[near crag]

It’s kinda hard to compete, when my team is the greatest of matchups to you, just six priority based glass canons

[junior pier]

Oh that sounds like a lovely dream

[near crag]

https://pokepast.es/ec87970372445bdf

[junior pier]

I thought after it got released I'd have to change it around and cope for the meta but i released there's nothing I can really change about it and it's just down to outplaying

[junior pier]

If you make lando jolly instead of adamant, your matchup is significantly better

[marble coral]

ayooo

[bold geode]

I gotta ask
What made you think "screw it, Regidrago with Psyspam"?

[junior pier]

I created the team in like early June as like a joke and then had nothing else to play, realised it was kinda cracked, stuck with it, got good at it 😁

[bold geode]

Lmao

Honestly at one point, I tried Sneasler with Psyspam, I guess I should've stuck with it

[junior pier]

Sneasler is objectively not the greatest on Psyspam I found
It's better with rillaboom

[bold geode]

Yup it sure is
I like monkey time

[near crag]

A lot of what made me lose was the fact that I tried to prepare for a ordinary trick room team, and thought regidrago was a sort of spare weapon, in case the main strat fails

[gentle delta]

@junior pier Im at work and cant chat, but we talked briefly on cybertrons video about your team. Just wanna reiterate that im stoked about your top 4 with the boy Armarouge and its a sick team.

[junior pier]

Aye brother Ty sm!

[gentle crag]

bravadovgc has given 1 Gen Rep to progatog

[junior pier]

Lmao with this team its like split into Elden ring boss fights. First you have the fast mode and then you activate the second phase slow mode

[bold geode]

Yeah it's neat how Regidrago just clears shit

[gentle delta]

May I ask how you settled on Drago? Only thing I cant quite wrap my head around

[bold geode]

Cuz like Roaring Moon be a bitch when using Psyspam

[bold geode]

This right here Prog

[near crag]

What is the way to counter this team archetype? There are other variants of it, such as getting kammo-o instead of regidrago. It’s been pretty rough to counter it

[bold geode]

We're learning the trade secrets now lmao

[junior pier]

Anything that isn't Drago is objectively worse. Kommo-o needs to set up

Drago is good cause turn 1 threatens so much

[bold geode]

Yeah
Dragon Energy

And iirc does Moon give any trouble?

[junior pier]

Exactly. Actually find sunroom is best for moon

[bold geode]

Yeah
For Moon, having Regidrago is good

[junior pier]

Attack boosting, Drago sweep, speed boosting, loses to Liligant

Btw Liligant is so good damn underated

[chrome knot]

my queen

[junior pier]

It OHKOs bulky flutter with solar blade

[bold geode]

Cuz I use Roaring Moon, Rilla, and Heatran for Psyspam
And Regidrago makes it a bit more concerning
Also yeah didn't expect Hisuian Lilligant to outspeed both my Roaring Moon and Flutter Mane with speed boosts

[junior pier]

Liligant still outspeeds most urshifus in TW

[near crag]

My main strat against it was to use dragonite to get the terrain out, and then try to use priority moves, but I got killed before I could move two turns in a row

[junior pier]

Only true problem with this team is chi yu
Yes there's answers but it's hard 50/50s for the answers

Yea see it just comes down to expirence and how well you play

[bold geode]

I feel like Ursaluna does it no?

[junior pier]

At the regional, my round 7 was against tera fairy goodra with screens

[junior pier]

Chi Yu snarl does 50-80% to Ursaluna weirdly

[junior pier]

Like it just comes down to how you play. On paper I should have lost over and over

[bold geode]

Fuck me that's a good chunk

Chi Mane is probably a nightmare then huh

[junior pier]

Nah just lilikoal

[bold geode]

Ah

[junior pier]

And Psyspam in a way

I have my lines

[gentle delta]

I’ve definitely found this.

Im off Sun Room and have been on the Brian Collins shell (heavily modified with lots of compliments from opponents) and I find my Moon matchup way worse now.

But other horrible MUs are way better this way

[junior pier]

Lmao

[gentle delta]

I can bring hard psyspam or sun room and either way be comfy tbh

I pilot TR pretty effortlessly in general.

[junior pier]

Yea everyone dropped like sunroom/Psyspam must for the tour and U still managed to do well against those with answers

[bold geode]

Me wish

[junior pier]

Fr it feels just so fluid

I can't wait for calyrex ice

[gentle delta]

The main comp mod in here never answers TR questions now

[junior pier]

With Clear Amulet

[gentle delta]

He pings me XD

[gentle delta]

You read my mind 🤝

[junior pier]

Lmao happy to answer TR questions too 😂

Yk what I'm cooking now thou?

RainRoom for Reg F

[bold geode]

We got 2 TR people in here

[mighty stump]

You’re right

I never do

I don’t have to anymore

[bold geode]

Tofu what questions would you ping me about

[gentle delta]

Been doing fast mode of Coal+Primarina meself

[chrome knot]

primarina primarina

[junior pier]

Just theory crafting but Hatterene with Indeedee, pelliper, Araquanid, Duraladon Evo and Basculegion

[mighty stump]

None

[chrome knot]

hatterene twinsies

[junior pier]

Hatterene is adorable

[bold geode]

No see here's what it would be right
"Monke what do you do that way people know to avoid that"

[gentle delta]

I feel like thats a little too water heavy but I like the direction

Archa is obviously on my radar though

[mighty stump]

I wouldn’t even do that, seems roundabout

[junior pier]

"What do you do when you face Hard Trick Room??"

Cry. I shut my eyes and welcome my incoming slaughter

[gentle delta]

Prima + Coal is something i did in Gen 8 drafts and Prima being able to set up Coal while also being a TR sweeper in its own right. Good role compression.

[bold geode]

"I'm just business,.fuck you entirely"

[gentle delta]

After my literal firstt ever tournament I damaged some egos badly enough they got paid coaching from Kevin @ pokesports to beat trick room

[junior pier]

I mean no heavier then Sunroom am I right?

[gentle delta]

Kevin confirmed this to me in Toronto lmao

[keen karma]

😂

[junior pier]

Lmao since the Regional, my coaching sessions have taken off

[gentle delta]

Well duh

One of the first top 4 psyspams

[junior pier]

"how do I play T" "How do I counter TR"

[gentle delta]

While your team is not personally my piloting taste I was super impressed

[keen karma]

I think im gonna take tr to charlotre

[keen karma]

Do you think hattarmadd is gonna be a thing

[bold geode]

Hatt gets Expanding......

[junior pier]

I'm sad my opponent got third caus3 he was garanteed to have a higher seed then me

[keen karma]

Maybe it does but im talking abt even if it soes

Does*

[junior pier]

Cause it as an X-1 regional and I lost my round ¹

Meaning I had to win 7 in a row to make top cut

Was stressful😂

[keen karma]

Rip

[gentle delta]

@junior pier you pulled through at least lol.

Toronto was my second regional and I lost day 2 after an absolutely HOT day 1 streak to a Harcanine surviving a 97.6% ohko chance Earth Power 🙃

[junior pier]

😮

[marble coral]

but goatres inspo was all I needed to follow my dreams

[gentle delta]

3hp and since it lived it was able to get off a crucial rock slide after opponents fire tera Hands got my shifu to 1.

It was the last turn of TR, so if Harc died hands would have gone down to dark tera wicked + earth power from Tork and id have made Day 2.

My opponent proceeded to drop every day 2 match as well

[junior pier]

-_-

Day 2 is guaranteed cp yeah?

[hollow shoal]

Pokemon

[gentle delta]

I got cp anyway it was big kicker

Came 56th and got 50

[junior pier]

Oh shit

I'm at 130/300

I need another high placement or to grind locals

[keen karma]

How hard is d2

[gentle delta]

Im not sure of the question

Making Day 2 is pretty hard, you need a 7-2 record usually

But I havent played in Day 2 yet, so I cant speak for how Day 2 matches actually are

[keen karma]

O

Oh day 2 is top 32 right?

[short nebula]

are the prize pool different in different countries

or is it just champion t-shirt and tc packs for all regionals

[gentle delta]

No Day 2 is Top however many people X-2 based on attendance

I was the 3rd or something highest placed player who didnt Day 2 in Toronto

So Day 2 There was like, top 53 or sum

[gentle delta]

Theres also GCs at least

[junior pier]

Y'all get T-shirts? We get TCG play mats

[gentle delta]

No shirts that ive seen lol

Playmat, cash, tcg packs and a medal

[keen karma]

Man im nervous

[junior pier]

And as for the money, I got $2000 USD for my reward but it's converted to your countries currency and then 30% is taken off due to Tax

But for me, I still got $2000🤣

[keen karma]

Wait wtf where

Ohhh

[junior pier]

Fr

[keen karma]

Bravado sun room

[junior pier]

Australia

Hi 🙂

[keen karma]

Hi

[gentle delta]

Yeah the fact that the winnings tax of the united states is enforced in every regional is whack

[junior pier]

Is that what the community calls it?

[keen karma]

No

Just what i thought up on the top of my head

[junior pier]

Lmao cause showdown calls it BravRoom and idk if they somehow got out 😂

[chrome knot]

all fun and games and then knoxville playmat is lilligant

[junior pier]

That's be so dope

[keen karma]

I hope mine is urshifu

Honestly the best pokemon in existence

[junior pier]

I got the tera dark Charizard

[keen karma]

How much do those go for

[chrome knot]

same

wisshh i got the chien pao one

[keen karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/glastrier.gif

[chrome knot]

my brother has the washington worlds mat, last years naic & a lapras one from yokohama

[keen karma]

He attended worlds? Or bought it

[chrome knot]

attended washington worlds & naic

[junior pier]

Maybe like $30-$50

[chrome knot]

had a friend who went to yokohama

[junior pier]

Lowkey actually had Glastrier on my team instead of Ursaluna originally

[keen karma]

???

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump

[cyan smelt]

Don't click it it's probably a virus

[keen karma]

😂

[keen karma]

Already did on my phone

Its just images of cards

[cyan smelt]

That's not vgc related, it's spam

[chrome knot]

@undone sage help

[keen karma]

I want to do that if hatterene gets ef

[junior pier]

Tera water clear amulet Glastrier is so good

[undone sage]

@hollow shoal Please don't spam images, or your christmas catalogue here

[junior pier]

It's got Cress Level bulk too

[keen karma]

Is it a tera hog

I havent played it at all

[junior pier]

Nah

I mean tbh you have to tera something and on a trick room team it's either armarouge or Torkoal, both which do fine without Ter yk

[keen karma]

Yea

[short nebula]

ye aparrently ahhaha

[keen karma]

Na???

[short nebula]

sg

i was searching it up to see if there is cash prizes

suprisingly there isnt any for my country regionals

[keen karma]

Rip

[junior pier]

Wdym?

[short nebula]

like cash prizes

[cyan smelt]

Idk if I should get coaching and then go to Melbourne regionals

[chrome knot]

aight dumb question what is the point of a vgc player to get a mat

[keen karma]

I want to get coaching

[junior pier]

I can coach you

[chrome knot]

i made a cute vgc room in my house so i used the mats BUT

[keen karma]

I dont have money tho

[junior pier]

Like I offer it

[chrome knot]

other than that like

[cyan smelt]

That'd be sweet because I use your team lmao

[keen karma]

Cool beans

[junior pier]

100% man I'd be down

I also go cheap prices I think
Not like wolfey who charges $180 an hour

[keen karma]

180 an hour 💀

[junior pier]

USD

[cyan smelt]

I mean I was looking for Aussie coaches so I was ready to pay whatever for the cultural similarity

[junior pier]

I got 3 things atm. Probably might lower, increase or expand what I offer depending on what is need

[junior pier]

That's crazy

[junior pier]

Yea man I'm down. I can play most archetypes and I build alot of people's teams

[keen karma]

How much is general advice

[cyan smelt]

Sweet can I send you a fr?

[keen karma]

Like not full on coaching but like team reviews

[junior pier]

I got $10AUD for a team report on something you've built or using, I'll write that down, give advice what to fix change, get better at ect

[junior pier]

DM?

[cyan smelt]

Sure

[junior pier]

Bet

[cyan smelt]

One sec I'll DM you

[keen karma]

Oh thats cheap

[junior pier]

Exactly

[short nebula]

wait bravado is the one who made the regidrago tr team?

[keen karma]

Yea

Armadd lillikoal regidrsgo luna

[junior pier]

Yea 🙂

[gentle delta]

Glastrier is goated, I brought one to Pittsburgh and managed points in my first regional with it.

[short nebula]

WOT

[junior pier]

Hehe

[short nebula]

HAHAHHAHA

that team is what got me into playing vgc

thanks man ahahha

[junior pier]

Oh I lied whoops. Its $15AUD. I had to check twitter 😂

[cyan smelt]

That team got me in the top 1000 of in-game ladder for the first time

[junior pier]

Yo that's actually so dope

[gentle delta]

@junior pier I know Clear Amulet is probably objectively better, but I'm also a big fan of Mimikyu SS WP Calyrex for GS Cup.

[junior pier]

Interesting

[short nebula]

yea dude and now regidrago has permanently ingrain fear into me

[gentle delta]

It kept me consistently in top 25 on cart in SwSh. I didn't start tours until just this year. Mimikyu does a hell of a lot as a Trick Room setter/support and I've always been a fan of it.

TR, Sneak, Wisp Curse usually

Goes through protect, fucks up Dozos

[keen karma]

It might be too early for my first regional

[junior pier]

Talking on that note I'm about to stream on Twitch trying to get to #1 on SV ladder

[gentle delta]

I have a video with a deadline so im about to speedrun editing it in 6 hours lol

otherwise I'd come watch

[short nebula]

ill be down to watch

[junior pier]

yo sick

[short nebula]

send link!

[junior pier]

OBS had to update one sec XD

[short nebula]

aighttt

[junior pier]

Live now, can't post link. BravadoVGC

[short nebula]

aightt

[undone sage]

No posty self promo

[junior pier]

Makes sense 😂

[rain cedar]

Can anyone provide me a Iron Hands and Vaporeon build

[cyan smelt]

Oops sorry kit

[undone sage]

You're welcome to apply for content creator for #self_promotion and post it there (read the pins)

[junior pier]

Okie 😁😁

[rain cedar]

Nvm on iron hands

[rain cedar]

I need Vaporeon build

[deep sparrow]

I have no idea tbh Lmao

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 286: Breloom

Types

Grass/Fighting

Abilities

Effect Spore, Poison Heal, Technician (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/130/80/60/60/70

Total

460

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

Decidueye-Hisui's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Astonish, Brave Bird, Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Close Combat, Covet, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, False Swipe, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Knock Off, Leaf Blade, Leafage, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Peck, Pluck, Razor Leaf, Return, Reversal, Rock Tomb, Seed Bomb, Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak, Sky Attack, Smack Down, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Trailblaze, Triple Arrows, U-turn

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Aura Sphere, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Foresight, Grassy Terrain, Growl, Haze, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Nasty Plot, Nature Power, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Tailwind, Taunt, Toxic, Work Up, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Decidueye-Hisui.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[mighty stump]

Calm Mind/Recover/Muddy Water/Icy Wind

252/252/4 HP/SpA/Def

[bold geode]

Hello sir

I have awaken

[keen karma]

Sir?

[chrome knot]

ma’am

[mighty stump]

Morning

[chrome knot]

tofu

[mighty stump]

Suh

Pooty

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

gm lady

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-maam-its-maam-please-wait-here-gif-13191169

[dull ibex]

hello

[livid vine]

Singles or Doubles?
Iron Hands Doubles is typically Assault Vest with Wild Charge, Fake Out, Drain Punch, and Heavy Slam/Volt Switch. With a really weird EV spread.

For singles, do the same set but with 252 HP 252 Atk and 4 Spd/Def. Adamant Nature

[dull ibex]

vc anyone?

[tired sage]

the ev spread for doubles isn’t that weird…

[bold geode]

Look, I caught a dumbass

[dull ibex]

What did I say about pinging with dumb shit

[chrome knot]

if i were to catch monke:

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

OH WOW

[chrome knot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[bold geode]

The fucking disrespect

[chrome knot]

ILY IM SORRYYYYY

[bold geode]

I mean you'd need it so

Lmao

[dull ibex]

monke is just jealous soon ill be a speedrunner and he needs to speedrun some social skills

[bold geode]

You suck

[dull ibex]

not nearly as much as yo u

[bold geode]

Only thing you do with speed is speed eat those microwaved chicken nuggets

[dull ibex]

jokes on you I dont have any rn

[bold geode]

Wow good luck fueling your house's electricity

Anyways
1-2 days left before DLC

Time to see my beloved

[dull ibex]

2 days

[bold geode]

INCINEROAR

[bold geode]

Well it says that the time could be 7pm CST tomorrow

[dull ibex]

we don't get for another 2 days

[bold geode]

NUH UH

Nope like last DLC it'll be late the day before but yeah
Cuz of time zones

[dull ibex]

Eastern Time (ET)

8:00 PM (December 13)

I forget they go off japan

[bold geode]

Well yeah cuz Japanese shit

I could've worded that better

[dull ibex]

nintendo is usually accurate with the date for america

gamefreak isnt so its whatever

that means we get it tomorrow

[bold geode]

Eh well it's also Pokemon/Game Freak so

But yeah we'll technically get it late evening tomorrow

[dull ibex]

its not gonna be relevant to me unfortunately

I have to wait for showdown to update

[next stump]

i hope the legendary shiny hunting methods are more fun than dynamax adventures

[bold geode]

Fuck Zygarde

[bold geode]

Also iirc || they're static encounters somehow || ?

[chrome knot]

its gonna be standing infront of the encounter and soft resetting till its shiny lmao

[dull ibex]

yeah they are static encounter seeming

[next stump]

holy shit that is miserable

🙏 increased odds at least

[bold geode]

Well it's better than the RNG of tryna get the right Mon in the den or whatever

[dull ibex]

it likely won't be increased offs

[next stump]

once you had the path, you could just spam it

[dull ibex]

I GET TO TRANSFER TOMORROW

[chrome knot]

i mean with soft resets you dont need to do a whole path

[next stump]

1/100 shiny odds was like 20-30 hours to hit the rate depending on the pokemon

[bold geode]

But finding it

[bold geode]

To the looney bin?

[next stump]

have a friend or someone in the #dynamax_adventures share the path, it was OP

[dull ibex]

shiny incin 😎

[next stump]

if it’s max odds and we’re stuck hard resetting i’m getting all mine from SWSH for sure

[bold geode]

Emmie did y'all have something called a looney bin?

[chrome knot]

🔒No Access

[dull ibex]

bro the looney bin isnt an american concept

[next stump]

RIP lol, dynamax adventures chat channel

didn’t know it was restricted

[bold geode]

Yeah but like just one of those bins of $1 movies

[chrome knot]

im just raid muted lol

[dull ibex]

actually looney bin might be british

[mighty stump]

chop chop vgc boy

[bold geode]

Chop chop

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1184117702353223710 vc time

[plain oasis]

what are the i ncreased odds?

[next stump]

I’m hoping there are, I don’t know if there are

[plain oasis]

oh okok

no words on which ones are exclusive to which version right

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump come back I need youuuuuuuuu

[mighty stump]

wait hold on

Im on a call with my partner

[chrome knot]

do you have swsh

[mighty stump]

I do, why

[chrome knot]

i need you to be a middleman

to myself.....

[mighty stump]

Okay give me a moment

[chrome knot]

i need you to transfer 4 mons from swsh to sv 🥺

[mighty stump]

From where to huh

Okay

[chrome knot]

gen 8 to gen 9

[karmic temple]

Pokémon home ?

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot DM me the code

im on swsh

[short nebula]

hey guys out of curiosity

is the new dlc seperate from teal mask?

or when u purchase teal mak it already comes with indigo disk

[next stump]

they come together

if you bought the DLC already you’ll get the indigo disk “for free”

[short nebula]

oh thats cool thanks man

are u guys still playing reg e or yall prepping for reg f already

[mighty stump]

I don't see how you would prep for a non-existent format, plus focusing on the current format makes it easier to have a base to transition off of

So probably the former

[lofty tartan]

I'm still playing Reg E. Always time to practice and get better

[short nebula]

hahahh tot u guys will be theory crafting smth

[lofty tartan]

It's hard to theory craft when there's no way to test anything in practice unless you go to showdown and some free form friendlies

Theory without testing here doesn't go very far

[short nebula]

ah i see hahah silly qn then

[lofty tartan]

Nah you're good.

Like you'd think theory crafting would be good and it is, on the surface, but a lot of things look good "on paper" that just won't make it to be viable

So without a really good means of putting it to use it's really tough. I'd love to get an early drop on it but the meta is really up in the air

So I'm gonna fumble through xD

All I know I that I'm gonna use Whimsicott somewhere

[short nebula]

ye that makes sense

v excited for the dlc hahah

dk if i should sleep or just stay up till the dlc comes out hahah

[lofty tartan]

Sleep is good and healthy. Dlc isn't gonna go anywhere

Do what's good for you 🙂

I'm gonna keep my normal schedule, I think

[short nebula]

aight ill go rest then

haahah nights bois

[next stump]

DLC releases in like 32 hours from now

go to bed hahaha

[short nebula]

wait isnt it like 7 hrs from now

[chrome knot]

tomorrow

[short nebula]

did i get the date wrong?

FKKKKKKKK

[mighty stump]

14th

Lol

[next stump]

pretty sure it’s night time on wednesday for the US

[chrome knot]

8pm EST tomorrow

[short nebula]

DUDE I TOT ITS TODAY FK

ok i am for sure gg to bed

hahah gngn

[mighty stump]

@dull ibex Ok im back

VC again?>

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1184179211531997324

mic turned off?

[mighty stump]

Its not fucking connecting

[dull ibex]

wtf?

[bright spire]

Wasent it 8 pm est thursday

[rough laurel]

Indigo Disk Launch - <t:1702519200:F> <t:1702519200:R>

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/houndoom.gif

[chrome knot]

wednesday

[autumn vault]

there is timezones, and for me its thursday 1 am

[chrome knot]

try reading first

ty

[bright spire]

[keen karma]

We’re actually the goats for that

[keen karma]

I mean you could get the mons ahead of time in prev games

Im not sure that really counts tho

[mighty stump]

Not really lol

Like

It doesn't really help shape what I think the metagame will be

[karmic temple]

There’s maybe like 10 tops Pokémon from older gen’s that are gonna be viable and if you played any other games you should already have them

[mighty stump]

That's why I don't really bother speculating until the time/format actually comes

[keen karma]

Yeah lol

What i said really applies for mostly home formats

When they’re explicitly said to be a home format

With mons like urshifu and rilla which you know are gonna be good

I really wonder what the reward is for completing the dex for new dl

[fallen rivet]

Yo what were some good ev spreads last generation for incin

[keen karma]

Probably invalidated this gen

244 hp 236 def 28 spe

Is what my friend used

[molten oasis]

Solo queing in unite is pain

And I did lfg, no one joined

I’m stuck solo queing yippee

[near crag]

Do any of you know what is yet to change in regulation F? Are the legendaries getting all legal (at least the ones added)?

[next stump]

Box legendaries will remain banned

[keen karma]

Are you still open to coaching?

[next stump]

Yes I definitely am

[fathom geyser]

Sneasler is somehow reliable and I only lost due to me making stupid plays or bringing the wrong mons and after some retrospection I saw that I could've won each game I lost (on paper at least) with the team I made recently

Should I make it a rental team?

[fathom geyser]

Hold up, you do coaching? Do you want to be paid or do you do it for free?

I could use some coaching

[next stump]

If someone is going to a regional or local, I’ll coach them for free

[fathom geyser]

Gotcha, so without me going to a tourney I'd have to pay you?

[nocturne holly]

Does this look like the unite channel? 🤓

anyways what’s poppin