#competitive_discussion

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dull ibex
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ive seen way dumber questions here

lofty tartan
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^

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Every day baybee

ember linden
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Fr bro we all have

dull ibex
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ive asked dumber questions arkeknine

neon sparrow
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Okay, then what's the dumbest question someone's asked you?

dull ibex
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I dont remember

lofty tartan
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Dumbest is quite an ask - they're all special

ember linden
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😭

neon sparrow
dull ibex
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the dumbest stuff ive seen here though is the tribalism with formats

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Ou vs VGC that shit is dumb

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I dont mean preferring one or the other I meant the guy who came in here never played vgc and started talking about how awful and stupid the format is

neon sparrow
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Let's see do I win the Loto-ID?

fallen rivet
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Luck šŸ’€

lofty tartan
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Reminds me of that scene in Billy Madison, Red

dull ibex
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mhm mhm

lofty tartan
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NO SHAMPOO IS BETTER, NO CONDITIONER IS BETTER

dull ibex
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also people who only play singles questioning competent vgc players on vgc

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that is also quite remarkably dumb

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A single question? idk Bad memory

neon sparrow
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Team go crazy(BTW the reason Cinderace is named Judy Jr. is because my first Scorbunny was named Judy Hopps.)

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Great channel's dead.

mighty stump
neon sparrow
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Dude, chill out, jokes are jokes, they aren't meant to be taken seriously, I'm practically autistic. This isn't twitter you don't need to get so mad about it, plus some of the smartest people I know are special needs. It reflects poorly on you to think that I was hating on them.

mighty stump
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Okay

neon sparrow
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As a wise man once said "You've got to be able to take a joke if you want to be taken seriously."

mighty stump
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I don’t care

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What I say goes

neon sparrow
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And who decided that?

mighty stump
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Because you don’t speak on behalf of all mentally ill people

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and this is tnot the time nor place

gentle cragBOT
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@neon sparrow has been warned for: inappropriate jokes regarding neurotypicals + added backlash

mighty stump
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well, non-neurotypicals

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oh well

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You’re welcome to keep talking and end up leaving the server too

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Not really my place to decide that, but im just pointing out a trend

lofty tartan
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So... the server staff decided it

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This is a family-friendly server and those jokes are neither family nor friendly. They're in poor taste at best

neon sparrow
# mighty stump Because you don’t speak on behalf of all mentally ill people

I never said I did, you think that I really mean any harm to them? No. You really think they need someone to stand up for them? Some of them sure, but not all, I'm trying to play around and have fun here, I don't mean harm, I like to joke around that's all. Plus you might wanna fix your phrasing because "I don't care. What I say goes." Sounds quite immature & lacking in the leadership department.

mighty stump
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Ah

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They continue

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<@&681508583099072551>

neon sparrow
neon sparrow
mighty stump
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It is unfortunate you do not understand the concept of preventative blanket bans

lofty tartan
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🤨

mighty stump
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Not a conversation

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Rulings

neon sparrow
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Kinda is, anything can spark a conversation, even talking in general could be considered a conversation.

molten oasis
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Like my phone send me a notification about it

mighty stump
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Lmao

molten oasis
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Indeed

charred saddle
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trial mod drago WobbuParty /j

molten oasis
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I do not deserve mod lol

fallen rivet
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Congratulations, you have been promoted. Please do not resist

charred saddle
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nah just joking haha

molten oasis
neon sparrow
mighty stump
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?

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If you say so

molten oasis
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My phone just noticed me about it, but it’s not highlighted

lofty tartan
charred saddle
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ahh prob just channel notifs(?)

molten oasis
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Idk kinda goofy

mighty stump
molten oasis
lofty tartan
neon sparrow
keen karma
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Why did pult fall off

neon sparrow
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I've died on many hills before friend, if I die on this one, oh well.

lofty tartan
fallen rivet
ember linden
mighty stump
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Its even more unfortunate not everyone has the capacity to decide appropriate hills to die on under a guise that their opinion matters

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c’est la vie

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Mountains out of molehills indeed

ember linden
keen karma
neon sparrow
ember linden
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Yeah, Becausearkeknine

supple ether
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Both of you please stop the conversation. Block each other, but please do not continue to engage

keen karma
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I feel like it could put in work on a rain team

mighty stump
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Aw

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Guess the fun has to stop

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Back to doing nothing

keen karma
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Wait actually yeah

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Torn + pult sounds good

ember linden
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Nothing, is somethingfight

fallen rivet
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Something something paradox pokemon

ember linden
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Something something hyper offense

fallen rivet
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Yea

mighty stump
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Pult needs Pao

molten oasis
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Yep

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Pult does not work without pao

fallen rivet
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Silly sword weasel-leopard

ember linden
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Pao needs PultPsyduckPanic

keen karma
molten oasis
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And then paonite exists so like

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You just do paonite+tornshifu

mighty stump
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Probably, id want anti priority

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so Farig needs to gonin there

molten oasis
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Then Fari if you do pult

keen karma
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I forgot the mon with dazzling is also a good anti prio

molten oasis
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Fari protects pult from sucker

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Which pult hates

fallen rivet
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Is sucker or lash out better for pao?

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Or maybe both?

molten oasis
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Rn id say sucker

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But if you don’t want sucker then lash out

charred saddle
molten oasis
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looks good

keen karma
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For me

ember linden
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Lash out is fine if you have other fighting coverage

vivid fern
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People who run Stall legit have no life

fallen rivet
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Let’s not

vivid fern
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I hope their switch breaks and they lose all their progress

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Too late šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø

mighty stump
vivid fern
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#FreeSpeech

neon sparrow
molten oasis
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Let’s not do this plz

neon sparrow
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I should be allowed to run Yawn on my Clodsire without getting laughed at!

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I should be allowed to make fun of myself for using Yawn on my Clodsire!

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I should be allowed to talk about my crappy pokemon decisions!

supple ether
mighty stump
neon sparrow
# molten oasis Let’s not do this plz

Dude even I'm not willing to deal with that again, I'd prefer to leave it in the past & let bygones be bygones, after all two wrongs don't make a right as my momma says.

molten oasis
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Tofu was ready lmao

neon sparrow
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And I'd prefer to stay in this server.

neon sparrow
molten oasis
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2 hours until I cnz post my new rental SphealBounce

molten oasis
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I posted it by accident while I was typing it out

mighty stump
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Did you do an oopsie

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Yeah

molten oasis
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Yep lol

mighty stump
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Cause i saw the channel light up

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And I was like

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THEY BETTER FOLLOW THE FORMAT

molten oasis
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Tofu when he sees the channel light up with nothing in it

neon sparrow
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Hey is Urshifu more of a physical or special attacker? I'd assume physical though I might be wrong.

molten oasis
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Physical all the way

neon sparrow
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Thank god.

mighty stump
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Its like a sixth sense

neon sparrow
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My Kubfu has No good special attack meaning yay

mighty stump
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ā€œ#rentalteams has been usedā€

molten oasis
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Lmao

verbal zealot
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when is dlc2 coming out again

neon sparrow
molten oasis
verbal zealot
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ah

mighty stump
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a new hand has touched the beacon

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14th

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and we all get new toys to play with

verbal zealot
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cool, i hope they ban gholdengo soon after

molten oasis
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INCINEROAR

neon sparrow
mighty stump
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and I need to figure out a way to buy some time to get a meta-analysis together

molten oasis
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hopefully wake I REALLY want to use walking wake

mighty stump
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oh fuck I have to get a meta-analysis together

neon sparrow
mighty stump
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god

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damn it

molten oasis
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With whims Wake Metagross incin, and more

neon sparrow
molten oasis
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Yea have fun with that lol

verbal zealot
molten oasis
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Yes there’s a list on serebii

neon sparrow
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What are the highlights?

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I'm hoping for my favorite to return.

molten oasis
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Whimsicott Incineroar Metagross

mighty stump
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Metagross/Whimsicott/Incin

molten oasis
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Primarina could have a niche

neon sparrow
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NOOOOO

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My favorite is on that list.

mighty stump
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Amongnst other things

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Archaludon

verbal zealot
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smeargle?

molten oasis
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I think Metagross ||gets a new move that might give it an omniboost||

neon sparrow
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Mfw bulbasaur isn't coming back.

mighty stump
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Is gonna be a main

molten oasis
mighty stump
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Bulbasaur is coming back

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All the starters are

neon sparrow
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YES BABY!!!!

molten oasis
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No dark void, moody got nerfed

neon sparrow
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Omg does this mean I have a chance to get a Blaziken?

verbal zealot
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i thought darkrai was coming back along with all the legendaries?

molten oasis
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Smeargle just doesn’t get to learn dark void period

verbal zealot
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Oh

mighty stump
verbal zealot
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Why the hell did they nerf it then

molten oasis
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Thank god

mighty stump
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I think its fake

molten oasis
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Dark void is gay

neon sparrow
molten oasis
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Do not quote me on that it’s just a leak

verbal zealot
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only one i personally care about is serperior

molten oasis
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Leaf storm spam hehe

neon sparrow
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Alright someone tell me rapid strike Urshifu's ideal move set.

verbal zealot
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depends on the format you're playing

molten oasis
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Yo we get bullet punch on meta for mane which is pog

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And it can’t be intimidated

neon sparrow
verbal zealot
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BSS or smogon ubers

keen karma
neon sparrow
charred saddle
molten oasis
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Nah shifu and bundle will still be dominant in the water department

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I’m hoping wake will also be good

keen karma
verbal zealot
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eh actually it doesnt matter surging strikes cc sd/tpunch tpunch/icepunch sd/aqua jet

keen karma
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Actually im not even sure

molten oasis
charred saddle
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mystic water, aqua jet, surging, detect, cc

scarf, uturn surging aquajet cc

neon sparrow
charred saddle
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?? they both work differently

verbal zealot
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And detect in singles?

neon sparrow
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Yeah but over here in the land of dumbasses we don't give a fuck.

charred saddle
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is it even singles?

verbal zealot
neon sparrow
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Sorry let me correct myself jackasses.

neon sparrow
verbal zealot
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from my teambuilder

charred saddle
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oh singles mb

mighty stump
charred saddle
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brain auto thinks on vgc

verbal zealot
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Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Adamant Nature

  • Surging Strikes
  • Close Combat
  • Poison Jab
  • Aqua Jet
mighty stump
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I click Surging anyways

verbal zealot
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Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Punching Glove
Level: 50
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Jolly Nature

  • Surging Strikes
  • Close Combat
  • Aqua Jet
  • Swords Dance
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text wall sorry

mighty stump
keen karma
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W

molten oasis
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It’s water moves double in power right?

keen karma
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Yeah its abilitt

dapper crag
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Ability: Water Bubble

This Pokemon's offensive stat is doubled while using a Water-type attack. If a Pokemon uses a Fire-type attack against this Pokemon, that Pokemon's offensive stat is halved when calculating the damage to this Pokemon. This Pokemon cannot be burned. Gaining this Ability while burned cures it.

molten oasis
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That’s cool

charred saddle
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hmmm

dapper crag
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PokƩmon No. 752: Araquanid
Types

Water/Bug

Abilities

Water Bubble, Water Absorb (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/70/92/50/132/42

Total

454

Other Formes

Araquanid-Totem

molten oasis
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It’s never overtaking urshifu

neon sparrow
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Wait aren't swords dance and bulk up practically the same thing?

molten oasis
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but it’ll be a fun Mon

keen karma
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Obviously not

charred saddle
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70 atk and 50 sp atk tho haha

mighty stump
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+2 to attack +1 to def/atk

verbal zealot
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on urshifu you want sd

keen karma
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It will still hopefully be good

molten oasis
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Dammit tofu you type faster than me bed_R4_EverStray_Bintubear_Stahp

keen karma
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Imagine it gets wave crash

mighty stump
neon sparrow
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Alright, I was wondering cause mine came pre-installed with Bulk Up.

molten oasis
neon sparrow
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I'm also on my phone.

molten oasis
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I’m buying a computer soon

mighty stump
charred saddle
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dude once i met a frickin tera poison dark urshifu with bulkup and drain punch + amulet LarrySigh

molten oasis
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I need one for school

neon sparrow
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I can type 127 wpm on my laptop, but that's while I'm slow.

molten oasis
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And I can stream

mighty stump
keen karma
fallen rivet
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Oh hammurot is back

molten oasis
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Tofu dw I can disappoint you hopefully by the end of the month

mighty stump
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I look forward to it

molten oasis
verbal zealot
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why are all the metagames im good at dead as hell

keen karma
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Araq also gets wide guard iirc

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My fav move

mighty stump
molten oasis
keen karma
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Reg e is boring and for dummies

molten oasis
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Reg e is also consistent and I k ow what I’m going agaisnt

keen karma
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So are most formats when the meta forms

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It would be cool if showdown forced ots every game

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Regardless of bo3 or not

neon sparrow
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Time to one shot a sableeye for some free xp candies.

keen karma
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I have it on my sword

neon sparrow
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Bro I can't wait for another like care package so to speak, like the one we got that gave us 10 rare candies.

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Man that sableye wasn't worth schiza!

molten oasis
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Also hint for next rental SphealBounce

neon sparrow
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Forgive my bad English it is my first language.

keen karma
molten oasis
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Uh, sure

keen karma
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K remind me tommorow

molten oasis
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K

neon sparrow
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Where do I get aqua jet?

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Is it a TM?

molten oasis
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Yes

dull ibex
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vc anyone šŸ‘€

dull ibex
molten oasis
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Lol

mighty stump
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ackchually

dull ibex
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nobody is better at it then me and monke though

molten oasis
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ā˜ļøšŸ¤“

dull ibex
molten oasis
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Nah it’s a portrait of you

dull ibex
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too much hair

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glasses are right

molten oasis
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Anyway, maybe I’ll do vc

dull ibex
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if we get another im down

molten oasis
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Ight

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Ping me if we do vc

mighty stump
dull ibex
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heck you

weary steeple
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Just a random thing

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But I am having so much fun just building pokemon

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They don’t have a team in mind aside from battle tower in BDSP

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But I love having some battle ready PokƩmon you know?

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I got a rhypherior with max health investment, some SPD and attack

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Is it the best? Idk, but she’s gonna dominate battle towers with some other teammates

mighty stump
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What is some SpD

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Cause as long as the EVs are correct it shouldnt be a worry

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and Battle Tower is easy with standard EVs

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252/252 in HP and ATK with leftover 4 in SpD is fine

weary steeple
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Like its battle tower so its. It going to be hard

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Just nice knowing I have a selection of pokes

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Like I’ll admit I’m just happy to build PokĆ©mon.

mighty stump
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Well depending on the level

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I can check what your exact EVs are

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since EVs only count in 4+8n or every 4n

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at levels 50 and 100 respectively

deep sparrow
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How’s everyone’s cart ladder going?

mighty stump
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Idk

molten oasis
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RENTAL TIME MF

mighty stump
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I only bother playing for masterball for the rewards

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i spend mroe time on showdown cause its faster

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Tofu been busy

mighty stump
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not enough Gorky

molten oasis
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Real, I’ll add more Gorky next time

mighty stump
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NOO DRAGO RELEASED MY TURBOGAMBIT TECH

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NOOOOO

molten oasis
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LOL I BEAT YOU MF

mighty stump
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NOOOOOOOOOOO

molten oasis
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🫵ha

mighty stump
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I like how you used LO cause thats what I did in Reg C

molten oasis
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I look at my options and went

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LORB would go hard here

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And it did, it does so much damage

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Kingambit questioning what a resist is once again

mighty stump
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Oh yeah

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I went Tera Dark LOrb

molten oasis
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That makes sense

mighty stump
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whats a resist

molten oasis
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I think the defensive Tera is better for the meta

mighty stump
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oh definitely

molten oasis
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Gambit being weak to fighting sucks lol

mighty stump
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but heeehee big damage

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also

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after icy wind

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ur faster than Harc

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so like

molten oasis
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POG

mighty stump
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ur even faster than adamant shifu i think

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cause

molten oasis
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I don’t have to click hydro pump

mighty stump
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-calc 102/0.67

gentle cragBOT
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Result: 152.238806

mighty stump
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yeah

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lmao

molten oasis
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Sick

mighty stump
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youre faster than timid Gholdengo/adamant shifu

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and like im pretty sure you outspeed non scarf landos

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etc

molten oasis
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lol nice Tera gholdengo

mighty stump
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nice tera bozo eat this

molten oasis
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Eat 120 bp assurance

dull ibex
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hello

eager minnow
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Is it double battle?

weary steeple
molten oasis
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Dengo can’t even Tera safely infront of bundle gambit anyway

weary steeple
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If I use Rhydon for online, god forbid, I will make or try to get an actual build

molten oasis
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Like, you die to something lol

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Also I think assurance did like 40% to a hands and I was just like ā€œdamnā€

mighty stump
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cause its so safe for assurance

molten oasis
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Fs

mighty stump
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oh yeah

molten oasis
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Hands dies in 2 turns to icy wind assurance shit

dull ibex
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gambit bundle?

mighty stump
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Turbogambit also lets you win the 1v1 depending

molten oasis
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Yea for sure

mighty stump
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Cause either Flinch hax or just damage output

molten oasis
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Yep

molten oasis
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I ran it in a tournament

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Did well, until bundle miss icy wind and hydro pump and I wanted to cry

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Seems like no vc

dull ibex
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F

molten oasis
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Indeed

mighty stump
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Im telling you Drago, Turbogambit >

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dont need bulk if theyre DEAD

molten oasis
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How to win, TurboGambit

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Oh nice tr setter

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dead

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Nice urshifu you got there, dead

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I do feel it only works here tho

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When something is procing assurance

mighty stump
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Thats the point thought

molten oasis
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which most of the team does

mighty stump
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Its deliberate

molten oasis
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Which is the whole point yea

mighty stump
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FO into Assurance

molten oasis
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Blizzard, slide, icy wind

mighty stump
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Glide into Assurance

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Icy Wind into Assurance

molten oasis
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If I need a ko

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Cudgel/Wood Hammer/Stomping into assurance

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IRON BUNDLE HAS ICE BEAM FUCK

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I’ll fix that

mighty stump
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TIME@TO REDO IT ALL@OVER AGAIN

molten oasis
mighty stump
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YOU HAVE FLIP TURN TOO

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CHAD

molten oasis
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gigachad bundle

dull ibex
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I need kill 20 minutes

molten oasis
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I must have forgot to get the right moves in bundle since the one I used in the tournament wasn’t the one I have here

mighty stump
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kshdhsj

molten oasis
dull ibex
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LMAO

mighty stump
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@dull ibex VC?

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@molten oasis

dull ibex
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sure

molten oasis
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Oh sure

valid wagon
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ive never played comp pokemon before and im gonna try my best to make a team on pokemon showdown

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been playing the game for years and wanna expand my knowledge on it

valid wagon
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singles for right now

dull ibex
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hmmmm okay then good luck

valid wagon
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ty

mighty stump
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I can definitely help you with EVing and stuff

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Although the actual metagame I am not familiar with

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Since my focus is Doubles

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Is this for In-game singles or OU?

valid wagon
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OU

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also im gonna swap to doubles after this im just trying to see how things work for right now

mighty stump
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@summer shore for OU

bold geode
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@mighty stump

mighty stump
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Bye

valid wagon
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all i know in this game is landourus is good or some shit and thats where my comp pokemon knowledge fades

dull ibex
bold geode
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No

dull ibex
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we are vcing without you because you are bad

bold geode
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Red let me in or your mom stimky

dull ibex
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oh ok

valid wagon
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you should let me in vc to spite winton 🧌

mighty stump
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Just in case

dull ibex
mighty stump
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next stump
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yesterday it was 9 degrees fahrenheit

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now it’s 45 degrees and pouring rain

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make your mind up nature

summer shore
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Ping

bold geode
summer shore
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What was ping for

nocturne holly
bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
mellow barn
nocturne holly
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Go home monke

nocturne holly
bold geode
molten oasis
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Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Bleakwind Storm
  • Tailwind
  • Taunt
  • Rain Dance
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@valid wagon

charred saddle
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thats so bulky haha

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going dark also nice for taunt measures

mighty stump
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Could be 252/252/4 bold too

molten oasis
charred saddle
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hmm, i did mine with some sp atk investment to deal nice damage

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since im most likely brining it for rain dance in the team

mellow barn
nocturne holly
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Oh ok

charred saddle
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EvilRondo the start of masterball rank service

pine sleet
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Ok guys... I wanna start getting into comp but I have 0 idea how to go about it. Like I looked up "comp" strategy builds for mons andEV splits and terras and such... but idk how to actually build a team. I have always been using my favourites so far. I have these mons Lvl 100 EV trained (the ones in the pics). Is it possible to build a comp viable team with them? I am not asking of you to build a team for me - but maybe a few tips would be cool ^-^

dapper crag
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Move: Triple Arrows

Has a 50% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage, a 30% chance to make it flinch, and a higher chance for a critical hit.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

nocturne holly
charred saddle
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early season

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KEKWlaugh good numbers at least

mighty stump
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Not 69 L

mellow barn
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Damn Leo šŸ‘€

knotty mirage
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Damn they start giving out apriball as ranked reward

charred saddle
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huh? really?

mighty stump
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Yer

knotty mirage
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I guess i need to push now SadMimi

nocturne holly
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I gotta get on soon lmao

charred saddle
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im not really experienced to build strats for you sry

mighty stump
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If i was combing through that

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Viable options would be

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Iron Bundle/ Bloodmoon Ursaluna/ Ogerpon/ A9/ Flutter Mane / Iron Hands/ Volcarona

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The box legends are banned and the rest are just kinda useless/powercrept

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maybe Garchomp but meh

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But again, Pikalytics can give you the standard sets of those llisted Mons

gentle cragBOT
lofty tartan
charred saddle
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yepyep

mellow barn
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I should do that as well.... I wonder what rank I will be šŸ¤”
Was under 20000 in master

charred saddle
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alolan ninetales

pine sleet
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ah

charred saddle
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im zoomin run

nocturne holly
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bro bout to get #1 with one more win…

lofty tartan
charred saddle
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KEKWCRY my only time of glory

sry mika haha

mellow barn
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Regardless, nice achivment Leo

bold geode
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@molten oasis nvm wanna watch me play some I'm a fucking idiot

charred saddle
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what am i watching. i met wide guard chesnaught

molten oasis
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Fine

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Well idk I just lost to snow dozo

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I’m enjoying the game rn that’s for sure

knotty mirage
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Is it better to push on early of the month or end of the month ?

charred saddle
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i like end month better. im just playing this early for the master rank ribbon on mons

knotty mirage
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Oh okay i will wait a bit then before i push on rank

charred saddle
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sry for spam but this is funny KEKWlaugh \

keen karma
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Gg

nocturne holly
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goddamn

mighty stump
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GET CYBERTRON VIDEO LIKE I DID

charred saddle
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nO

mighty stump
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INDONESIA NOMOR SATU

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PANCASILA

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KETUHANAN YANG MAHA ESA

charred saddle
mighty stump
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HAHAHAHHA

charred saddle
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cape we, ga kuat main bnyk bnyk malah tilt lama lama

almost lost to a tera fighting blast farigiraf poliwhirlkek

keen karma
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Wtf happened to snorlax

charred saddle
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i didnt expect its fighting blast to gambit

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i didnt even protect gambit kekwhands

mighty stump
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We are Christmas Phrogging

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Tis the season

keen karma
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šŸ‘

charred saddle
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KEKWCRY phrogging

keen karma
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Are yall edating?

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Or irl

mighty stump
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Irl

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We live like 30 minute drive away or so

keen karma
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Wow lucky

mighty stump
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But being cheesy is fun

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SO

charred saddle
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23rd and its only 1600 ELO KEKWlaugh

mighty stump
charred saddle
keen karma
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Omg i cant wait to use araquanid and suicune

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Manual tw is so fun

charred saddle
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wait why suicune?

keen karma
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Manual tw + scald

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Although it probably is gonna be mid

molten oasis
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Why do I go and feel like I built a good team then go play it and lose to every god damn Tornadus player known to man

mighty stump
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There are worse options

molten oasis
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mhmm

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fucking hate Tornadus with this team AGAIN

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Like sure I can lead well

mighty stump
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Tornadus moment

molten oasis
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I still lose cuz shifu can surging or cc into most of my team and torn prevents me from switching in my grass mons

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And I’ve ONLY fought Tornadus today, and snow dozo

mighty stump
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Das why you just icy wind and yolo the Tornadus away

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and then Rillaboom comes in to pressure shifu for free

molten oasis
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I’ve tried

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I’ve seen a lot of chi yu

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That just click heat wave and I lose bundle

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So I need a line there for sure

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(It’s lando im just kinda tilted)

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Just so over fighting torn

mighty stump
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Into Chi Yu

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You lead Boom Kingambit

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Fake out then Sucker

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or Glide then Sucker cause they wanna click Heat Wave

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But preferrably you fake out and sucker

molten oasis
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mk

mighty stump
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So the way that works

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Is its semi banking on Bleakwind poroccing Defiant

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as a bonus

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But you cover the Tera Ghost or they eat Fake Out

molten oasis
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Oh I see

mighty stump
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+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chi-Yu: 105-125 (80.1 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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If they protect and Bleakwind then they trigger Defiant hopefully

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and you can then glide and sucker safely

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Kinda

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Maximising Kingambits Steel typing and forcing HO to play HO-brain is your line

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Kinda

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Especially Bo1 CTS they like trying to catch people out turn 1 as momentous as possible

molten oasis
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And how does leading into shifu work? Cuz as much as I want to lead gambit bundle I don’t think I can, cuz I either have to switch first turn or hope I clicked the correct Tera

mighty stump
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Shifu? You focus Torn and have Boom in the back

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Or you awlays just sucker freeze dry

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and tera Bundle always

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Into Urshifu

molten oasis
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Bundle also isn’t outspeeding shifu after tw

mighty stump
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So Freeze Dry alwyas kills cause Its brought into range

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Yeah

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Thats why you Tera

molten oasis
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Oh

mighty stump
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And thats why you sucker

molten oasis
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That makes sense

mighty stump
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252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 43-52 (24.4 - 29.5%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. -1 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 66-78 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

it stacks up

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Even after one sucker youll be in range of Glide

molten oasis
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Mk

mighty stump
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You just gotta keep matching the damage trades

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That's what id try to do at least

molten oasis
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I’ll give that a shot

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Torn just giving me trouble per usual

keen karma
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Bro regitube is abt to be so good

eager minnow
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Wait regitube is a thing?

mighty stump
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Its not

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If only

summer shore
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@mighty stump what was the ping from before about

charred saddle
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regicircle KEKWlaugh

mighty stump
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https://liberty-note.com/2023/12/01/sv-season12-top30/

Check out @next stump ā€˜s end of ladder top 30 team and bunch of others here

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and give a huge congrats

mighty stump
summer shore
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šŸ‘

mellow barn
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Hey! I didn't need to grind PikaLmao

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Wait... yes I do...

mellow barn
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I am so rusty Kek

molten oasis
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That lando I is picking up a lot

mellow barn
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Yeah I am so bad at VGC Kek

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First two games, all losses

mighty stump
smoky hawk
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Some of these sprites are 🤮🤮

gentle cragBOT
next stump
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now if only I could write in japanese for a report lol

mighty stump
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Honestly

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Id write a report anyways

next stump
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yeah I’ll do an english one and share it with them

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maybe they’ll post it hahaha

mighty stump
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They probably will

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Its worth your time to do too

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And its kinda fun

mellow barn
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My ranked games haven't gone well Kek

keen karma
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im making an azu team

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for cart

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to ladder with

mighty stump
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This team that's due to come out in the coming week is truly cooking

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Ive never cooked harder

keen karma
mighty stump
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Illumise

keen karma
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oh

mellow barn
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I might need to fix a new ladder team DEAD

keen karma
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curse set or b drum

charred saddle
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oh right. congrats dillon nyaHyperyay

mellow barn
next stump
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thank you very much

orchid falcon
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mornin guys

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what did i miss

mellow barn
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I'm suffering in in game ladder Kek

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I am so unfocused and my team doesn't stand against the ladder.
Should I just wait for the DLC to come to climb the ladder? Kek

placid thorn
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Focus then

keen karma
placid thorn
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See how it goes

next stump
mellow barn
deep sparrow
keen karma
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each with different teams with unique archetypes

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in order to improve my team building skills

mighty stump
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Thats it

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Play random shit if you must

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But playing and experiencing the ladder gives you all the information to build on in the future

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Plus its better because regulations have a basis in their past regulations imo

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You get to mesh existing tools with comjng tools with better understanding

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The shift for DLC 2 potentially can be large

next stump
# mellow barn How would you recommend me on going about that? Reading, watching matches etc.?
  • Watching pro games whenever they’re on

  • Seriously thinking while playing the ladder, not just on autopilot. Use damage calculators during and after losses, think of what you could have done better, etc.

  • Use one consistent team IMO. If you’re trying to learn and improve, switching teams constantly only makes that harder.

  • Play a lot of games, My first few seasons I’d easily have 200+ matches on the in game ladder and hundreds more on Showdown

mighty stump
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Real

mellow barn
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Alright, thank you masters

keen karma
smoky hawk
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Did a new season just begin?

mighty stump
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I got like

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probably over thousands of games at this point

keen karma
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bruh i need enam for the team i want to play

mighty stump
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Same with any player that like

keen karma
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wait thats on showdown nvm

mighty stump
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plays seriously

keen karma
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i thought you said cart

mighty stump
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Dilon has 200 on cart

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lol

next stump
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200 games at 10-15 minutes per game is not tooooo crazy, that’s one hour of playing every day for a month

keen karma
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200 on cart i just cannot do

next stump
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There’s something that clicks with me and cart, I think it’s the animations

keen karma
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now im at a struggle where i need to get enam for a team

next stump
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I enjoy it a lot

keen karma
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if someone has a spare hmu

charred saddle
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something i want to have tho, is when one our pokemon faints and you are choosing other mon, i would really want the ability to check the whole enemy team again for reassesment

mighty stump
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Im like a 50:50 so I think its just focus in general

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lmao

charred saddle
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idk maybe haha

mighty stump
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I peak when I peak but that hurts my brain after like a few hours

charred saddle
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understandable haha, i cant play too much games

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or else im tilting

keen karma
mighty stump
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Farig

keen karma
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k

rustic mountain
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sd is dope for trying out stuff and practice but i prefer cart too

bold geode
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Tree worryCowboy

rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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u ready for reg f

bold geode
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SĆ­

rustic mountain
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4 months of it, series 1 and 2 b like: wtf

keen karma
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and the models look infinitely better

keen karma
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this shit ass

mellow barn
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Back to ultraball!!! maus_yay

keen karma
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GG

smoky hawk
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New season started today?

dapper crag
dapper crag
keen karma
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Thundy is gonna be so good with serperior

dapper crag
keen karma
deep sparrow
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Just came across a flamigo partnered with Numel and Grumpig. Numel used stockpile, grumpig used psych up. Wild šŸ˜‚

keen karma
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that end up never being used

dapper crag
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so you're tired of the format but you are making teams of it ?!?!

keen karma
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yes

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because i want to do something interesting so i dont get out of shape

dapper crag
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wouldn't that equate to playing the format...

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don't want to be patronizing but it feels very opposite

keen karma
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well im just making teams and testing them

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thats all im doing

dapper crag
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ha you modified your answer I see

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don't play stuff you don't like just sayin'

deep sparrow
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Starting today out 2-2.

rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Tree

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We're cooking

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
dapper crag
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if you don't like the power scaling going up, then you don't play competitive game with increasing powerscaling metagames every few months

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They got from national dex, to Home Mons, to DLCs, to restricteds. that pattern was seen in gen 8 too.

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even adding mythicals at the very end lol just remembered

rustic mountain
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can still play it and not neccessarily love it either. not mutually exclusive. a lot of people tend to prefer formats where a lot of stuff isnt phased out as a result of power creep shrug

dapper crag
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that's a weird way to go about it

rustic mountain
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for me its w/e personally but i get it i do think stuff like series 1 and 2 couldve been longer and had more time to develop

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hows it weird ? people like having more options and things not being so oppressive its just a preference lmao

keen karma
gentle cragBOT
keen karma
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because reg e is ultimately feeling like that for me

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im tired of seeing the exact same oppressive urshifu team top cut every tourney

rustic mountain
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reg e is honestly the most centralizing format ive experienced since playing (started in spring 2020) which isnt inherently bad but its gotten a bit far on that spectrum. over 7 mons in day 2 w/ 40% useage? like holy shit

keen karma
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and i hate that feeling of just wanting to suboptimize literally 2 or something mons added in the dlc are actually like not getting power crept

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like all these mons added for there to be rarely any versatility in the format

mighty stump
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Reg E has been the most variety as well

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Like a lot of archetypes function well enough

dapper crag
rustic mountain
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yea, i mean ppl have def made niche picks work, but its not the easiest thing to do, for every person successful w/ like clefable theres 10+ ppl not day 2ing w/ their niche pick

mighty stump
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Yeah

rustic mountain
keen karma
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it feels kinda demotivating though hopefully reg f is alot different

mighty stump
rustic mountain
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oh ok yea

mighty stump
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Although 28 unique mons out of 46 was pretty great

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and knocking Flutter down lower than 60% and make it not an instasplash on every team is also good

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I was honestly hopping Urshifu never came back or at least until later

keen karma
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i want them to add something that really hurts flutter but is also like balanced

rustic mountain
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thats fair, i jus have never seen such a high useage for day 2 mons as much as the past few tourneys. mightve happened in like the big 6 era wen i wasnt playing but atleast in recent years

mighty stump
#

is big 6 Chalk

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Idr

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I remember Big 6 but not what they are

rustic mountain
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Primal-Groudon, Xerneas, Mega-Kangaskhan, Talonflame, Mega-Salamence and Smeargle.

dapper crag
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Cress Heatran Amoonguss Landorus Kangaskan

keen karma
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i wish they found another way of nerfing talon

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like a specific hp threshold since it is pretty frail anyways

rustic mountain
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like allow everything but the legends for the home format

mighty stump
rustic mountain
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and wait till dlc1

mighty stump
#

Yeah

rustic mountain
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reg e jus feels like reg d + not much really changed after new toy syndrome wore off

dapper crag
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i like Urshifu

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punches things hard and you can't protect

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such a good Pokemon

keen karma
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idk what gf was thinking with the ability

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clearly it should've been nerfed

mighty stump
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Yeah that sentiment isn't echoed due to the inability to protect fact, which wouldn't be so bad if it didnt do 100% of damage

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I personally don't care, since it doesn't affect how I'll approach the game

dapper crag
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I don't feel robbed since both players can run it

keen karma
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not me either its just a bit annoying

mighty stump
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But it's not exactly great either

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And also since Kubfu is locked behind a previous game + DLC

dapper crag
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I like playing round it, bringing a good check on your team

mighty stump
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Accessibility can also be an issue for some players

dapper crag
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I've had great success with Amoonguss into Urshifu

keen karma
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mb wrong reply

rustic mountain
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it has enough checks but it can be really oppressive if ur caught out of position and cant protect to get out of it

keen karma
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i always thought it was weird like it takes no damage when punching through a shield of spikes

mighty stump
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The pins Urshifu can bring to matches is way too forgiving

rustic mountain
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it bypasses spiky shield too shrug but yea haha

mighty stump
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and centralises your teambuilding very strongly

dapper crag
#

wait surging strikes doesn,t make contact on spiky shield ?

rustic mountain
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no

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it bypasses it

mighty stump
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Urshifu can break through any protection move

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As long as it makes contact

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Quick Guard/Spiky Shield/Protect and Detect

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Whatever other move

keen karma
rustic mountain
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quick guard is fine

mighty stump
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Quick Guard is a great move

keen karma
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im talking abt being able to be bypassed

mellow barn
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There should a chart for priority moves which is affected by which.
Like extreme speed goes first than Sucker Punch

dapper crag
#

but what if urshifu doesn't have its ability

dapper crag
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isn't surging strikes making contact ?

mellow barn
rustic mountain
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i think hitting 25% damage through protect is more then fair for it

mighty stump
keen karma
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like a sun drop to water moves

dapper crag
#

Google is your friend

mighty stump
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I have it in my Beginner's Guide I wrote in Gen 8

dapper crag
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You just type priority pokemon chart

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google gives it to you

rustic mountain
#

seen ppl on twitter saying they think tw should have the same prio as tr

mighty stump
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I mean, it's fine having someone ask about a priority chart

dapper crag
keen karma
rustic mountain
keen karma
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then it cant get abused with prankster

rustic mountain
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hahaha

mighty stump
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I think that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing

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It would be odd

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But it kinda makes sense to me

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But oh well

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Hand that we're dealt yada yada

keen karma
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damaging move is the best imo

bold geode
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Tree what is this reading shit you're talking about

rustic mountain
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i get it but yea im not sure. i think reverting dynamic speed would prolly b fine i think thats wat most ppl have issue w/ imo

dapper crag
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wtf giving damage to tailwind

keen karma
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yes

dapper crag
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you guys are on crack or something

keen karma
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like 15 and it sets tailwind

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then it doesnt get the prankster

dapper crag
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let's just make tailwind gives you speed control for 4 turns and deals chip damage

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yup

bold geode
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Chip damage? Who said that

keen karma
dapper crag
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not seeing the problem is the problem

rustic mountain
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1 person suggests tw does damage
ray: are you guys on crack?
jordanlaugh

keen karma
bold geode
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Oh
Yeah that one is kinda eh

mighty stump
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Tailwind breaking Sash isn't great either

bold geode
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At that point, it's just mini max airstream

keen karma
#

o

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didnt consider sash

dapper crag
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at best match icy wind/electro web forat

dapper crag
#

but just straight up buffing tailwind at no downside outside of prankster using other moves to fuck you up on +1 is really bad

mellow barn
mighty stump
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To all status moves

mellow barn
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I see

mighty stump
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So just add it to the existing priority bracket

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So a Prankster Trick Room would be -7 +1

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-6

mellow barn
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Thank you!

rustic mountain
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-6 tr ASbigBrain

mighty stump
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Oddly it can be very niche

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Where you beat out phasers

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1/1000

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scenario

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Cause it'll be the same priority bracket

keen karma
dapper crag
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just like flame body stealth rock heatran japanese team

mighty stump
dapper crag
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I'm curious to try it but I fear I'm gonna suck at using it

mighty stump
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Whirlwind/Roar etc

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A Prankster TR can potentially dodge the phaser by setting TR first and then getting Phased

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Because it made the priority bracket match the phasing move

keen karma
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actually

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what happenede to phasing moves then

mighty stump
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Just one extremely unlikely niche scenario

mighty stump
mighty stump
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People just don't tend to consider those moves options

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Plus, redirection can make it tricky

keen karma
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harc + gothi

mighty stump
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Unless you run double phasing

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Or some sort

keen karma
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but then flutter could just bypass it or any ghost type

mighty stump
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Which can be a large commitment due to the following:

  • Moveset distribution
  • Moveslot commitment
keen karma
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makes sense

mighty stump
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Status moves don't really care about typing apart from certain ones otherwise you can't Helping Hand a Flutter

keen karma
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no im talking about the combo i said

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specifically for phasing moves

dapper crag
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just got my 2nd Enamorus to get both forms running

keen karma
dapper crag
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it's not something you just make a new save and get one for free lol

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got to go real deep into the game

keen karma
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i didnt need it

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was a joke

dapper crag
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funny one

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tell someone to get you one, I'm rolling on the floor right now

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legit replaying Arceus to get this and they're like, get me one but it's a joke

keen karma
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bro its not that serious

dapper crag
karmic temple
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Hey while you’re at it can you get me one too? Thanks

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Appreciate it

dapper crag
#

get a job, pay yourself the game, profit

keen karma
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unless you're winning tournaments in it which is probably unlikely

dull haven
dapper crag
keen karma
dull haven
#

Hihi

mighty stump
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it is

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Khuja

dull haven
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Yus

mighty stump
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Quick, someone say something offensive

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Ill start

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@bold geode

keen karma
dull haven
mighty stump
keen karma
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i dont think that counts as a stock

dull haven
bold geode
dapper crag
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playing a video game you bought with disposable income is not something done for profit

keen karma
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yes money you can spend however you want

mighty stump
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Is this really important

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To like

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Engage with

dull haven
#

How about just move on? Really it looks like it's trying to be a redundant argument that isn't going anywhere

dapper crag
#

all of this from me getting another enamorus lol

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I wanted to try the turtle looking one on a trick room team

bold geode
mighty stump
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The funniest part was everyone seeing Enamorous and it hitting 0% usage

charred saddle
#

hello khuja nyaHyperyay

mighty stump
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Thinking it was gonna be important to get

bold geode
keen karma
dapper crag
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It's important to get for living dex, I want to try it myself

dull haven
bold geode
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Yeah but he said that and Twitter doesn't allow second chances

keen karma
#

enam def has potential but its locked behind a game thats not even main series

dull haven
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Yeah but Loki doesn't have a Twitter, lol

keen karma
dapper crag
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you'd see usage on showdown though

bold geode
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Keep him away then
The Dream stans will come after him Khuja
KEEP HIM SAFE

mighty stump
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I've seen like