#competitive_discussion
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Fr bro we all have
ive asked dumber questions 
Okay, then what's the dumbest question someone's asked you?
I dont remember
Dumbest is quite an ask - they're all special
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Special needs.
the dumbest stuff ive seen here though is the tribalism with formats
Ou vs VGC that shit is dumb
I dont mean preferring one or the other I meant the guy who came in here never played vgc and started talking about how awful and stupid the format is
Let's see do I win the Loto-ID?
Luck š
Reminds me of that scene in Billy Madison, Red
mhm mhm
NO SHAMPOO IS BETTER, NO CONDITIONER IS BETTER
also people who only play singles questioning competent vgc players on vgc
that is also quite remarkably dumb
A single question? idk Bad memory
Team go crazy(BTW the reason Cinderace is named Judy Jr. is because my first Scorbunny was named Judy Hopps.)
Great channel's dead.
Right, stop with the special needs jokes
Dude, chill out, jokes are jokes, they aren't meant to be taken seriously, I'm practically autistic. This isn't twitter you don't need to get so mad about it, plus some of the smartest people I know are special needs. It reflects poorly on you to think that I was hating on them.
Okay
As a wise man once said "You've got to be able to take a joke if you want to be taken seriously."
And who decided that?
Because you donāt speak on behalf of all mentally ill people
and this is tnot the time nor place
@neon sparrow has been warned for: inappropriate jokes regarding neurotypicals + added backlash
well, non-neurotypicals
oh well
Youāre welcome to keep talking and end up leaving the server too
Not really my place to decide that, but im just pointing out a trend
He's been appointed by the moderators for this channel
So... the server staff decided it
This is a family-friendly server and those jokes are neither family nor friendly. They're in poor taste at best
I never said I did, you think that I really mean any harm to them? No. You really think they need someone to stand up for them? Some of them sure, but not all, I'm trying to play around and have fun here, I don't mean harm, I like to joke around that's all. Plus you might wanna fix your phrasing because "I don't care. What I say goes." Sounds quite immature & lacking in the leadership department.
Alright I'll stop, just trying to have a little bit of fun.
I am allowed to talk back, for that is how a conversation works.
It is unfortunate you do not understand the concept of preventative blanket bans
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Yeah in this case
Not a conversation
Rulings
Kinda is, anything can spark a conversation, even talking in general could be considered a conversation.
Why did I get notified by this?
Like my phone send me a notification about it
Indeed
trial mod drago
/j
I do not deserve mod lol
Congratulations, you have been promoted. Please do not resist
nah just joking haha
Well I didnāt get pinged
I do actually, I'm just playing around and have stated that I will stop with the jokes. All I did afterwards was point out the way you had phrased things was not fitting of a moderator and more of a child.
My phone just noticed me about it, but itās not highlighted
Not the hill you wanna die on, friendo
ahh prob just channel notifs(?)
Idk kinda goofy
It really doesnāt matter lol
Yea probably this

I'll take the risk.
Why did pult fall off
I've died on many hills before friend, if I die on this one, oh well.

It didnāt watch where it was going š
Because
Its even more unfortunate not everyone has the capacity to decide appropriate hills to die on under a guise that their opinion matters
cāest la vie
Mountains out of molehills indeed
Finger licking good like itās KFC
Probably because it was just hard to use in general
I do have the capacity to decide appropriate hills to die on, and every voice has meaning and purpose, after all if they didn't why would you continue to use yours?
Yeah, Because
Both of you please stop the conversation. Block each other, but please do not continue to engage
I feel like it could put in work on a rain team
Nothing, is something
Something something paradox pokemon
Something something hyper offense
Yea
Pult needs Pao
Silly sword weasel-leopard
Pao needs Pult
Pult pao shifu rain?
Then Fari if you do pult
I forgot the mon with dazzling is also a good anti prio
https://pokepast.es/77c18bb6094c4fb5
any inputs? and yes i did change the LO to spoon. and prob change knock off to acrobatics
looks good
Lash out is fine if you have other fighting coverage
People who run Stall legit have no life
Letās not
I hope their switch breaks and they lose all their progress
Too late š¤·š¾āāļø
What even is the point of this
#FreeSpeech
#FreeSpeech fr fr
Letās not do this plz
I should be allowed to run Yawn on my Clodsire without getting laughed at!
I should be allowed to make fun of myself for using Yawn on my Clodsire!
I should be allowed to talk about my crappy pokemon decisions!


Dude even I'm not willing to deal with that again, I'd prefer to leave it in the past & let bygones be bygones, after all two wrongs don't make a right as my momma says.
Tofu was ready lmao
Ok, then drop it 
And I'd prefer to stay in this server.
I have, I'm legit talking about me having terrible choices on me pokemans.
2 hours until I cnz post my new rental 
Why 2 hours
I posted it by accident while I was typing it out
Yep lol
Hey is Urshifu more of a physical or special attacker? I'd assume physical though I might be wrong.
Physical all the way
Thank god.
I take psychic damage everytime it happens
Its like a sixth sense
My Kubfu has No good special attack meaning yay
ā#rentalteams has been usedā
Lmao
when is dlc2 coming out again
They used future sight on you bro.
The 14th I believe
ah
cool, i hope they ban gholdengo soon after
INCINEROAR
NO. NO. NOOOO. GOD NO PLEASE NO!
and I need to figure out a way to buy some time to get a meta-analysis together
hopefully wake I REALLY want to use walking wake
oh fuck I have to get a meta-analysis together
Yay the furries are gonna love this one!
With whims Wake Metagross incin, and more
That sucks.
Yea have fun with that lol
wait do we know what mons are coming back
Yes thereās a list on serebii
Whimsicott Incineroar Metagross
Metagross/Whimsicott/Incin
Primarina could have a niche
smeargle?
I think Metagross ||gets a new move that might give it an omniboost||
Mfw bulbasaur isn't coming back.
Is gonna be a main
I think smeargle is gonna be ass tbh
YES BABY!!!!
No dark void, moody got nerfed
Omg does this mean I have a chance to get a Blaziken?
i thought darkrai was coming back along with all the legendaries?
Smeargle just doesnāt get to learn dark void period
Oh
Weāre aware of potentially 25 static encounters but overall undure
Why the hell did they nerf it then
Thank god
I think its fake
Dark void is gay
Baton Pass gonna be wilding with this new move.
Do not quote me on that itās just a leak
only one i personally care about is serperior
Leaf storm spam hehe
Alright someone tell me rapid strike Urshifu's ideal move set.
depends on the format you're playing
Singles.
BSS or smogon ubers
Most exciting mon is araquanid if thats how you spell it
Mfw someone brings up something I don't know about at all.
depends on what item it uses and the team its surrounded with
Nah shifu and bundle will still be dominant in the water department
Iām hoping wake will also be good
Im talking about fun wis
eh actually it doesnt matter surging strikes cc sd/tpunch tpunch/icepunch sd/aqua jet
Actually im not even sure
For fun yes
mystic water, aqua jet, surging, detect, cc
scarf, uturn surging aquajet cc
I'm basically using it as a lucario replacement.
?? they both work differently
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Why would you use mystic water over punching glove
And detect in singles?
Yeah but over here in the land of dumbasses we don't give a fuck.
is it even singles?
lemme find the actual set for you rq
Sorry let me correct myself jackasses.
YES.
from my teambuilder
oh singles mb
Cuz we dont csre about Rocky Helmet damage for certain board positions
brain auto thinks on vgc
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Adamant Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Poison Jab
- Aqua Jet
I click Surging anyways
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Punching Glove
Level: 50
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
text wall sorry
Araquanid was on my first team for my first competitive season
W
Itās water moves double in power right?
Yeah its abilitt
This Pokemon's offensive stat is doubled while using a Water-type attack. If a Pokemon uses a Fire-type attack against this Pokemon, that Pokemon's offensive stat is halved when calculating the damage to this Pokemon. This Pokemon cannot be burned. Gaining this Ability while burned cures it.
Thatās cool
hmmm
Water/Bug
Water Bubble, Water Absorb (Hidden)
68/70/92/50/132/42
454
Araquanid-Totem
Itās never overtaking urshifu
Wait aren't swords dance and bulk up practically the same thing?
but itāll be a fun Mon
Obviously not
Sd is +2
70 atk and 50 sp atk tho haha
Different
+2 to attack +1 to def/atk
on urshifu you want sd
It will still hopefully be good
Swords dance is +2 to attack, bulk up is +1 to def/att
Dammit tofu you type faster than me 
Imagine it gets wave crash
Im on my phone its a level playing field
Alright, I was wondering cause mine came pre-installed with Bulk Up.
True
I'm also on my phone.
Iām buying a computer soon
Finally
dude once i met a frickin tera poison dark urshifu with bulkup and drain punch + amulet 
I need one for school
I can type 127 wpm on my laptop, but that's while I'm slow.
And I can stream
chop chop vgc boy
Get a capture card too
Oh hammurot is back
Tofu dw I can disappoint you hopefully by the end of the month
I look forward to it
I will
why are all the metagames im good at dead as hell
You killed them
Reg e is boring and for dummies
Reg e is also consistent and I k ow what Iām going agaisnt
So are most formats when the meta forms
It would be cool if showdown forced ots every game
Regardless of bo3 or not
Time to one shot a sableeye for some free xp candies.
Do you still want the volc
I have it on my sword
Bro I can't wait for another like care package so to speak, like the one we got that gave us 10 rare candies.
Man that sableye wasn't worth schiza!
Forgive my bad English it is my first language.
Shiny
Uh, sure
K remind me tommorow
K
Yes
vc anyone š
oh you've been actively doing that dw /s
Lol
ackchually
nobody is better at it then me and monke though
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self potrait?
Nah itās a portrait of you
if we get another im down
baldie
heck you
Just a random thing
But I am having so much fun just building pokemon
They donāt have a team in mind aside from battle tower in BDSP
But I love having some battle ready PokƩmon you know?

I got a rhypherior with max health investment, some SPD and attack
Is it the best? Idk, but sheās gonna dominate battle towers with some other teammates
Like
What is some SpD
Cause as long as the EVs are correct it shouldnt be a worry
and Battle Tower is easy with standard EVs
252/252 in HP and ATK with leftover 4 in SpD is fine
I donāt know! I just trained it some attack then I gave it SPF
Like its battle tower so its. It going to be hard
Just nice knowing I have a selection of pokes
Like Iāll admit Iām just happy to build PokĆ©mon.
Ah
Well depending on the level
I can check what your exact EVs are
since EVs only count in 4+8n or every 4n
at levels 50 and 100 respectively
Howās everyoneās cart ladder going?
Idk
RENTAL TIME MF
I only bother playing for masterball for the rewards
i spend mroe time on showdown cause its faster
Tofu been busy
Real, Iāll add more Gorky next time
LOL I BEAT YOU MF
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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I like how you used LO cause thats what I did in Reg C
I look at my options and went
LORB would go hard here
And it did, it does so much damage
Kingambit questioning what a resist is once again
That makes sense
whats a resist
I think the defensive Tera is better for the meta
oh definitely
Gambit being weak to fighting sucks lol
POG
I donāt have to click hydro pump
-calc 102/0.67
Result: 152.238806
Sick
youre faster than timid Gholdengo/adamant shifu
and like im pretty sure you outspeed non scarf landos
etc
lol nice Tera gholdengo
Eat 120 bp assurance
hello
Is it double battle?
Yeah I get that. Since it was a battle tower build, I just said fuck it and letās just train it.
Dengo canāt even Tera safely infront of bundle gambit anyway
If I use Rhydon for online, god forbid, I will make or try to get an actual build
Like, you die to something lol
and it cant just sit there and nplot
Also I think assurance did like 40% to a hands and I was just like ādamnā
cause its so safe for assurance
Fs
oh yeah
Hands dies in 2 turns to icy wind assurance shit
gambit bundle?
Turbogambit also lets you win the 1v1 depending
Yea for sure
Cause either Flinch hax or just damage output
Yep
Dude, it goes hard
I ran it in a tournament
Did well, until bundle miss icy wind and hydro pump and I wanted to cry
Seems like no vc
F
Indeed
How to win, TurboGambit
Oh nice tr setter
dead
Nice urshifu you got there, dead
I do feel it only works here tho
When something is procing assurance
Thats the point thought
which most of the team does
Its deliberate
Which is the whole point yea
FO into Assurance
Blizzard, slide, icy wind
If I need a ko
Cudgel/Wood Hammer/Stomping into assurance
IRON BUNDLE HAS ICE BEAM FUCK

Iāll fix that
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
TIME@TO REDO IT ALL@OVER AGAIN
gigachad bundle
I need kill 20 minutes
I must have forgot to get the right moves in bundle since the one I used in the tournament wasnāt the one I have here
kshdhsj
My brain at this very moment
LMAO
sure
ive never played comp pokemon before and im gonna try my best to make a team on pokemon showdown
been playing the game for years and wanna expand my knowledge on it
singles or doubles?
singles for right now
hmmmm okay then good luck
ty
I can definitely help you with EVing and stuff
Although the actual metagame I am not familiar with
Since my focus is Doubles
Is this for In-game singles or OU?
OU
also im gonna swap to doubles after this im just trying to see how things work for right now
@summer shore for OU
@mighty stump
Bye
all i know in this game is landourus is good or some shit and thats where my comp pokemon knowledge fades
go away monke
No
Better start than most
we are vcing without you because you are bad
Red let me in or your mom stimky
oh ok
you should let me in vc to spite winton š§
Just in case
I'll do alot to spite monke tbh
yesterday it was 9 degrees fahrenheit
now itās 45 degrees and pouring rain
make your mind up nature
Ping
Winton
What was ping for
Fr

heck you
Heck your mom
https://twitter.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1730455356805886436 Some information that is not information 
Go home monke
what does the ānot informationā part mean

Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Tailwind
- Taunt
- Rain Dance
@valid wagon
Could be 252/252/4 bold too
I like bulk on my torns, when I use it
hmm, i did mine with some sp atk investment to deal nice damage
since im most likely brining it for rain dance in the team
That the information comes 25th
Oh ok
the start of masterball rank service
Ok guys... I wanna start getting into comp but I have 0 idea how to go about it. Like I looked up "comp" strategy builds for mons andEV splits and terras and such... but idk how to actually build a team. I have always been using my favourites so far. I have these mons Lvl 100 EV trained (the ones in the pics). Is it possible to build a comp viable team with them? I am not asking of you to build a team for me - but maybe a few tips would be cool ^-^
Has a 50% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage, a 30% chance to make it flinch, and a higher chance for a critical hit.
Fighting
Physical
90
100
10 (16)
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Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
4 wins and youāre at 166?
Not 69 L
Damn Leo š
Damn they start giving out apriball as ranked reward
huh? really?
Yer
Tf
I guess i need to push now 
I gotta get on soon lmao
so no help huh... thx anyways
im not really experienced to build strats for you sry
I mean, your options are fairly limited but I can point you to the direction of PIkalytics
If i was combing through that
Viable options would be
Iron Bundle/ Bloodmoon Ursaluna/ Ogerpon/ A9/ Flutter Mane / Iron Hands/ Volcarona
The box legends are banned and the rest are just kinda useless/powercrept
maybe Garchomp but meh
But again, Pikalytics can give you the standard sets of those llisted Mons
ok thank you
kanotha has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
Yeah season reset last night so the ladder has fewer ranked folks in it
yepyep
I should do that as well.... I wonder what rank I will be š¤
Was under 20000 in master
(what's A9?)
alolan ninetales
ah
im zoomin 
bro bout to get #1 with one more winā¦

my only time of glory
sry mika haha
Regardless, nice achivment Leo
@molten oasis nvm wanna watch me play some I'm a fucking idiot
what am i watching. i met wide guard chesnaught
Fine
Well idk I just lost to snow dozo
Iām enjoying the game rn thatās for sure
Is it better to push on early of the month or end of the month ?
i like end month better. im just playing this early for the master rank ribbon on mons
Oh okay i will wait a bit then before i push on rank
sry for spam but this is funny
\
Gg
goddamn
hIT RANK 1
GET CYBERTRON VIDEO LIKE I DID
nO
WKAOWAKOWAKWAO
HAHAHAHHA
cape we, ga kuat main bnyk bnyk malah tilt lama lama
almost lost to a tera fighting blast farigiraf 
Wtf happened to snorlax
Im matching PFPs with my girlfriend for Christmas
We are Christmas Phrogging
Tis the season
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phrogging
Thats so based
Irl
We live like 30 minute drive away or so
Wow lucky
23rd and its only 1600 ELO 
Gw pernah konsiderasi tera-fighting Gholdengo wkwk
WKKAWKWAKWAOK
100 ELO EASY
wait why suicune?
Why do I go and feel like I built a good team then go play it and lose to every god damn Tornadus player known to man
There are worse options
Prescient Tofu strieks again
Tornadus moment
I still lose cuz shifu can surging or cc into most of my team and torn prevents me from switching in my grass mons
And Iāve ONLY fought Tornadus today, and snow dozo
Das why you just icy wind and yolo the Tornadus away
and then Rillaboom comes in to pressure shifu for free
Iāve tried
Iāve seen a lot of chi yu
That just click heat wave and I lose bundle
So I need a line there for sure
(Itās lando im just kinda tilted)
Just so over fighting torn
Into Chi Yu
You lead Boom Kingambit
Fake out then Sucker
or Glide then Sucker cause they wanna click Heat Wave
But preferrably you fake out and sucker
mk
So the way that works
Is its semi banking on Bleakwind poroccing Defiant
as a bonus
But you cover the Tera Ghost or they eat Fake Out
Oh I see
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chi-Yu: 105-125 (80.1 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If they protect and Bleakwind then they trigger Defiant hopefully
and you can then glide and sucker safely
Kinda
Maximising Kingambits Steel typing and forcing HO to play HO-brain is your line
Kinda
Especially Bo1 CTS they like trying to catch people out turn 1 as momentous as possible
And how does leading into shifu work? Cuz as much as I want to lead gambit bundle I donāt think I can, cuz I either have to switch first turn or hope I clicked the correct Tera
Shifu? You focus Torn and have Boom in the back
Or you awlays just sucker freeze dry
and tera Bundle always
Into Urshifu
Bundle also isnāt outspeeding shifu after tw
Oh
And thats why you sucker
That makes sense
252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 43-52 (24.4 - 29.5%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. -1 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 66-78 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
it stacks up
Even after one sucker youll be in range of Glide
Mk
Bro regitube is abt to be so good
Wait regitube is a thing?
@mighty stump what was the ping from before about
regicircle 
https://liberty-note.com/2023/12/01/sv-season12-top30/
Check out @next stump ās end of ladder top 30 team and bunch of others here
and give a huge congrats
some singles player than changed their mind
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Congrats!!!
I am so rusty 
That lando I is picking up a lot
Suica is goated
ā¤ļø thank you
mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
now if only I could write in japanese for a report lol
My ranked games haven't gone well 
This team that's due to come out in the coming week is truly cooking
Ive never cooked harder
is it azumarill
Illumise
oh
I might need to fix a new ladder team 
curse set or b drum
oh right. congrats dillon 

thank you very much
I'm suffering in in game ladder 
I am so unfocused and my team doesn't stand against the ladder.
Should I just wait for the DLC to come to climb the ladder? 
Focus then
no problemo
See how it goes
well thatāll be 33 days from now, at that point you may as well use this season to get better at VGC and take January super seriously
True...
How would you recommend me on going about that? Reading, watching matches etc.?
This is sick. Congrats @next stump !!
im doing every remaining tommy tuesday
each with different teams with unique archetypes
in order to improve my team building skills
Literally just playing
Thats it
Play random shit if you must
But playing and experiencing the ladder gives you all the information to build on in the future
Plus its better because regulations have a basis in their past regulations imo
You get to mesh existing tools with comjng tools with better understanding
The shift for DLC 2 potentially can be large
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Watching pro games whenever theyāre on
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Seriously thinking while playing the ladder, not just on autopilot. Use damage calculators during and after losses, think of what you could have done better, etc.
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Use one consistent team IMO. If youāre trying to learn and improve, switching teams constantly only makes that harder.
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Play a lot of games, My first few seasons Iād easily have 200+ matches on the in game ladder and hundreds more on Showdown
Real
Alright, thank you masters
no problem
Did a new season just begin?
200+???? WTF
bruh i need enam for the team i want to play
Same with any player that like
wait thats on showdown nvm
plays seriously
i thought you said cart
200 games at 10-15 minutes per game is not tooooo crazy, thatās one hour of playing every day for a month
200 on cart i just cannot do
Thereās something that clicks with me and cart, I think itās the animations
now im at a struggle where i need to get enam for a team
I enjoy it a lot
if someone has a spare hmu
yeah i agree, feels much better in cart. i also somehow focus better and think much clearly in cart
in showdown either i think too much or didnt think hard enough, hard to focus haha
something i want to have tho, is when one our pokemon faints and you are choosing other mon, i would really want the ability to check the whole enemy team again for reassesment
idk maybe haha
I peak when I peak but that hurts my brain after like a few hours
do yall think bruxish/fari works better here? https://pokepast.es/22e719ea803e5e6a
Farig
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sd is dope for trying out stuff and practice but i prefer cart too
Tree 


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4 months of it, series 1 and 2 b like: 
i can def understand that
and the models look infinitely better
Back to ultraball!!! 
GG
New season started today?
do not play what tires you
I'm hyped for it, I like powerscaling going up in a format. Picks my brain for opportunities.
im not playing it all that much
Thundy is gonna be so good with serperior
Are you sure ? I see you post reg E ever since I joined
yeah random teams i make
Just came across a flamigo partnered with Numel and Grumpig. Numel used stockpile, grumpig used psych up. Wild š
that end up never being used
so you're tired of the format but you are making teams of it ?!?!
wouldn't that equate to playing the format...
don't want to be patronizing but it feels very opposite
Starting today out 2-2.

wow not a common opinion haha but yea i get that
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if you don't like the power scaling going up, then you don't play competitive game with increasing powerscaling metagames every few months
They got from national dex, to Home Mons, to DLCs, to restricteds. that pattern was seen in gen 8 too.
even adding mythicals at the very end lol just remembered
can still play it and not neccessarily love it either. not mutually exclusive. a lot of people tend to prefer formats where a lot of stuff isnt phased out as a result of power creep 
that's a weird way to go about it
for me its w/e personally but i get it i do think stuff like series 1 and 2 couldve been longer and had more time to develop
hows it weird ? people like having more options and things not being so oppressive its just a preference lmao
not really its just a competitive mindset
thank you
iamabigmunch has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.
because reg e is ultimately feeling like that for me
im tired of seeing the exact same oppressive urshifu team top cut every tourney
reg e is honestly the most centralizing format ive experienced since playing (started in spring 2020) which isnt inherently bad but its gotten a bit far on that spectrum. over 7 mons in day 2 w/ 40% useage? like holy shit
I know man it just feels like you are just sub optimizing if you use other options
and i hate that feeling of just wanting to suboptimize literally 2 or something mons added in the dlc are actually like not getting power crept
like all these mons added for there to be rarely any versatility in the format
In the weirdest sense though
Reg E has been the most variety as well
Like a lot of archetypes function well enough
the competing mindset would recognize the added variety we had so far
yea, i mean ppl have def made niche picks work, but its not the easiest thing to do, for every person successful w/ like clefable theres 10+ ppl not day 2ing w/ their niche pick
Yeah
idk if i necessarily agree w/ most variety
yes that is also true
it feels kinda demotivating though hopefully reg f is alot different
Ill reword it with, accounts for a wider variety of playstyles rather than just pure mon variety
oh ok yea
Although 28 unique mons out of 46 was pretty great
and knocking Flutter down lower than 60% and make it not an instasplash on every team is also good
I was honestly hopping Urshifu never came back or at least until later
i want them to add something that really hurts flutter but is also like balanced
thats fair, i jus have never seen such a high useage for day 2 mons as much as the past few tourneys. mightve happened in like the big 6 era wen i wasnt playing but atleast in recent years
Primal-Groudon, Xerneas, Mega-Kangaskhan, Talonflame, Mega-Salamence and Smeargle.
Cress Heatran Amoonguss Landorus Kangaskan
Right
Before my time
Lmao
i wish they found another way of nerfing talon
like a specific hp threshold since it is pretty frail anyways
them not delaying home mons and having the first few series so short was bad imo
like allow everything but the legends for the home format
Reg D felt a nightmare to me for a bit even though I was quite successful
and wait till dlc1
Yeah
same lmao i jus know from ppl talkin about it and looked it up to double check myself
reg e jus feels like reg d + not much really changed after new toy syndrome wore off
it pretty much is the same
Yeah that sentiment isn't echoed due to the inability to protect fact, which wouldn't be so bad if it didnt do 100% of damage
I personally don't care, since it doesn't affect how I'll approach the game
I don't feel robbed since both players can run it
not me either its just a bit annoying
But it's not exactly great either
And also since Kubfu is locked behind a previous game + DLC
I like playing round it, bringing a good check on your team
Accessibility can also be an issue for some players
I've had great success with Amoonguss into Urshifu
it should also have specific interactions with spiky shield
mb wrong reply
it has enough checks but it can be really oppressive if ur caught out of position and cant protect to get out of it
i always thought it was weird like it takes no damage when punching through a shield of spikes
The pins Urshifu can bring to matches is way too forgiving
it bypasses spiky shield too
but yea haha
and centralises your teambuilding very strongly
wait surging strikes doesn,t make contact on spiky shield ?
Urshifu can break through any protection move
As long as it makes contact
Quick Guard/Spiky Shield/Protect and Detect
Whatever other move
quick guard is just stupid
quick guard is fine
Quick Guard is a great move
im talking abt being able to be bypassed
There should a chart for priority moves which is affected by which.
Like extreme speed goes first than Sucker Punch
but what if urshifu doesn't have its ability
There is
isn't surging strikes making contact ?
š May perhaps I have it? 
i think hitting 25% damage through protect is more then fair for it
50% is good too
like a sun drop to water moves
Google is your friend
I have it in my Beginner's Guide I wrote in Gen 8
seen ppl on twitter saying they think tw should have the same prio as tr
I mean, it's fine having someone ask about a priority chart
tailwind is normal priority
it should just be a damaging move
reread wat i said
then it cant get abused with prankster
Bruh
hahaha
I think that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing
It would be odd
But it kinda makes sense to me
But oh well
Hand that we're dealt yada yada
damaging move is the best imo
Tree what is this reading shit you're talking about
i get it but yea im not sure. i think reverting dynamic speed would prolly b fine i think thats wat most ppl have issue w/ imo
wtf giving damage to tailwind
yes
you guys are on crack or something

let's just make tailwind gives you speed control for 4 turns and deals chip damage
yup
Chip damage? Who said that
i dont see a problem with that
not seeing the problem is the problem
1 person suggests tw does damage
ray: are you guys on crack?

me i said like adding 15 to tailwind so it doesnt get prankster
Oh
Yeah that one is kinda eh
Tailwind breaking Sash isn't great either
At that point, it's just mini max airstream
at best match icy wind/electro web forat
but just straight up buffing tailwind at no downside outside of prankster using other moves to fuck you up on +1 is really bad
What about abilities like Pranksters etc?
Thats a net +1
To all status moves
I see
So just add it to the existing priority bracket
So a Prankster Trick Room would be -7 +1
-6
Thank you!
-6 tr 
Oddly it can be very niche
Where you beat out phasers
1/1000
scenario
Cause it'll be the same priority bracket
wdym
just like flame body stealth rock heatran japanese team
Phasing moves are a higher bracket than TR priority wise
I'm curious to try it but I fear I'm gonna suck at using it
Whirlwind/Roar etc
A Prankster TR can potentially dodge the phaser by setting TR first and then getting Phased
Because it made the priority bracket match the phasing move
Just one extremely unlikely niche scenario
It's there lol, I used it in Reg D
That was funny
People just don't tend to consider those moves options
Plus, redirection can make it tricky
harc + gothi
but then flutter could just bypass it or any ghost type
Which can be a large commitment due to the following:
- Moveset distribution
- Moveslot commitment
makes sense
Status moves don't really care about typing apart from certain ones otherwise you can't Helping Hand a Flutter
just got my 2nd Enamorus to get both forms running
can you get me a third
if you pay lol
it's not something you just make a new save and get one for free lol
got to go real deep into the game
funny one
tell someone to get you one, I'm rolling on the floor right now
legit replaying Arceus to get this and they're like, get me one but it's a joke
bro its not that serious

get a job, pay yourself the game, profit
actually thats losing money
unless you're winning tournaments in it which is probably unlikely

there's a thing called disposable income
hi
Hihi
Yus
last time i checked poekmon legends arceus isnt making you profit
Loki said Meow, meow meeoowww is that offensive?
As a vet, yes
i dont think that counts as a stock
Lol
Nike Air Fryer
that's not what a profit is anyway, disposable income is just what you got left after tax.
playing a video game you bought with disposable income is not something done for profit
yes money you can spend however you want
How about just move on? Really it looks like it's trying to be a redundant argument that isn't going anywhere
all of this from me getting another enamorus lol
I wanted to try the turtle looking one on a trick room team

The funniest part was everyone seeing Enamorous and it hitting 0% usage
hello khuja 
Thinking it was gonna be important to get
Honestly
Lock him up
Cancel him on Twitter
i mean i think that is why ppl arent using it
It's important to get for living dex, I want to try it myself
Hey, no. Loki is just licking his foot and doing cat stuff lol
Yeah but he said that and Twitter doesn't allow second chances
enam def has potential but its locked behind a game thats not even main series
Yeah but Loki doesn't have a Twitter, lol
cancel him on tiktok
you'd see usage on showdown though
Keep him away then
The Dream stans will come after him Khuja
KEEP HIM SAFE
I've seen like



