I’m gonna be a dad at 15

[jaunty crystal]

yo what?

[bold shoal]

I think I know why it got deleted

[jaunty crystal]

naaa but that was actually f**ked up

[craggy pollen]

EWWWW

15 is way too young to be making babies

[open sinew]

please dont..

abort it

[upbeat sleet]

F yhh, go big or go home. High School will be tough but try to keep ur grades high and even if u don't go to college, get into a high-paying field to support ur fam.

but congrats brother! Unlike all these normies, I respect tf outta u and I believe in u bro

don't give up on yourself and raise that kid to be a good human being

oh, it got deleted lmao

[vernal schooner]

Let's be fr, if you're not rich it's gonna be hard, just don't give up ig

[craggy pollen]

it would be hard even if rich

[runic wolf]

Yeah, maybe you said that a little bit too late

[olive wigeon]

remember that you can legally abandon the baby at your local Safe Heaven or your countries equivalent

[olive wigeon]

if you want to raise the baby, do this

• discuss all the important stuff with your gf before they become imiediate issues

[upbeat sleet]

80% of children goin into adoption facilities gain multiple mental health issues from it. I think most ppl get mental health issues but I would assume that the amount u get is extremely high when u get thrown out of your house as a baby. Pce

Just take care of ur damn kid

[olive wigeon]

I don't know their life situation
If someone is, for one reason or another, unable to properly take care of the baby, then it's def better to give it up then to keep and neglect it

[upbeat sleet]

Should have wrapped up or got some plan B. Not the child's fault, it's the parents fault and he's just ruining a kids life because of his own laziness

Everyone has their own rights to do what they want though. Just seems morally wrong

A lot of kids just give the baby to their grandparents or parents to take over for 5-6 years as they grow into adult hood. Then they take back over that parenting role. It's not worth throwing your kid away just because you're still young and learning. If you really don't want to go out of the way to raise a kid that you brought into this world, there are better options.

[olive wigeon]

i for one have depression and often just can't get out of bed to do things i activelly WANT to do

someone else might be so poor the child would starve

is the OP is a simular situation? i dunno, which is why i just inform of the options, instead of making the decision

[olive wigeon]

assuming they are going to take the kid? sure, you can do that

[upbeat sleet]

Then get a better job like any man would do to support their family? Most people struggle with depression, that's not an excuse to throw out your baby.

If you're not ready to have a kid, practice safe sex

If ya don't, bite the consequences

[olive wigeon]

Most people don't have dehabilitating depression, you are delusional

[upbeat sleet]

1 in 3 people get depression throughout their life

[olive wigeon]

not even close to everyone and a not every depresion is dehabilitating

[upbeat sleet]

Just cuz someone looks happy doesn't mean they're not depressed asf

Still 29 in 100 people is a lot. Just cuz ur depressed doesn't mean u should take ur anger out on those around you

[olive wigeon]

"always make assumtions, they make conversations faster"

ok, good to know you are projecting anger onto my experiance
i recoment listening to people instead of pressuming things

[upbeat sleet]

Yh, that's fair. My buddy was like that for a period of his childhood. I would 100% say that he still would have been able to take care of his kid. A child would give you motivation to step out of your bed and get off your *ss.

[upbeat sleet]

U just told me that someone who is depressed should throw out their baby

So of course, I'm going to assume

Even if the parent isn't looking at it as anger. That's how the kid will see it. Why didn't you want me, Dad?

Then he'll gain ptsd, abandonment issues, and multiple other things

I'm off to bed, don't have sex if you don't want a kid or be safe about it. Peace

[olive wigeon]

and crying for food while parent is having a mental breakdown won't?

you won't just spring up from bed bc your kid is hungry
for some people it's just a kid

[upbeat sleet]

Not the child's fault for abusing the child, it's the parents.

[olive wigeon]

what i'm saying, for some people it's either abandoning the kid or this

can you see why maybe getting consistantly fed be better

and the same for poverty
and there might be other potencial simular motivations I'm not aware of

[upbeat sleet]

Unless someone has bipolar/is mentally insane or mentally does not care about the life of others, I could not see someone not feeding their own child.

[olive wigeon]

those are some pretty massive groups of people

[upbeat sleet]

Even as a person with bipolar, most people who are able to manage their condition should be able to raise a kid

[upbeat sleet]

True. I think a lot of mentally insane people do not think of themselves as mentally insane and they'll raise their kids as a narcissistic and pass it down the family tree.

Kinda went off topic, though

I just couldn't see someone who is depressed without homicidal tendencies not providing for their family or families

[olive wigeon]

we are having a discution rn, but most people like OP understand the idea of morality and stuff and don't need us to educate them on it
if he needs ethical advice, a philosophy discord would be a better place

[upbeat sleet]

Discussion*

[olive wigeon]

yep my orthography suck xd

[upbeat sleet]

Alr, well I'm gonna go back to bed. Nice meeting you, it's w talking to ppl who have different views

[olive wigeon]

i've enjoyed it too, will send you a friend request

[upbeat sleet]

I have ya blocked 💀. Gl with that

[olive wigeon]

oh... xd

[jaunty crystal]

man why yall aint using no protection

use double or triple protection

[olive wigeon]

i think they've learned their lesson

[upbeat sleet]

Doubling up has been proven to be less safe then wearing one condom. It increases the risk of breakage. If you meant wearing a condom and then purchasing your girlfriend a morning after, I would agree. There are likely cheaper alternatives as well since a plan b is extremely over priced.

[upbeat sleet]

I'd recommend not plan b because there are cheaper off brand named ones that do the same thing

[runic wolf]

You guys aren’t very good at helping are you?

[olive wigeon]

no

were are not

[runic wolf]

I can tell

[runic wolf]

Because protection kind of cost like money

[olive wigeon]

hm...
right, extreme poverty
i stand by what've said

if you don't have the means to feed the kid, then abort or abandon in a Safe Heaven

[runic wolf]

Abortions are illegal in my state

[olive wigeon]

then abandon in a Safe Heaven

or get a job, prob get a job

[runic wolf]

I have a job

[olive wigeon]

and you still don't have the money? damn

[upbeat sleet]

U didn't read my advice tho

I said to keep the baby

And to raise it like any good parent would do

^ said it in different words

But u joined in late in the convo lol

[olive wigeon]

not duable without money

[upbeat sleet]

Then go out and get a high paying job

[olive wigeon]

good luck, wish that

[runic wolf]

But I also work for her dad at his restaurant so if he finds out I’m gonna get fired

[olive wigeon]

wait, is that legal?

[upbeat sleet]

Set up a backup job

[upbeat sleet]

Some states allow you to fire for any reason

Even if he doesn't have a reason, the boss would likely make up a lie

[olive wigeon]

i hate america so much
they don't have the basic shit i just take for granted in europe

[runic wolf]

To live in a Nordic liberalism country

[upbeat sleet]

What I would do is set up a job/get accepted.... then inform the Dad, if he fires you, cool and you have a higher paying job. If not, you would still have your job.

[olive wigeon]

nordic republic of poland xd

[upbeat sleet]

I respect tf out of u for working at your age

[runic wolf]

Finland is 10 times better

Or Iceland

[runic wolf]

Thanks

[olive wigeon]

i wish to move to Norway eventually
bergen seems like a perfect city with world's worsed weather xd

[runic wolf]

He pays me a lot it’s just I have a really big family and we don’t make much money altogether so I give some money to them

[runic wolf]

I wish to move to Iceland

[upbeat sleet]

Do they force you to hand over money or do you do it out of generosity?

If they force you to, I'd cut that off right after moving out

[runic wolf]

Well, one side forces me, the other doesn’t I give more to the side that doesn’t

[upbeat sleet]

Right on

[olive wigeon]

this is the worsed time to move out but oki

[upbeat sleet]

It's not on you that they make less money. Should have just a different career and they still could

[upbeat sleet]

I'm talking about the future when bro becomes an adult

But yh, u can do whatever u want. Family does come first

[runic wolf]

I give around 1000 a month to the side that forces me and 1500 to the other

[upbeat sleet]

That is insane

[olive wigeon]

and you are left with...?

[runic wolf]

That’s around 25 so maybe like 15 because he pays really well

[olive wigeon]

sure that sounds resonable oki

[runic wolf]

I think I might stop giving the side that forces me money

[upbeat sleet]

Just note that you will likely be kicked out of that house at the legal age

But that is a good choice, they're practically stealing from you when you're trying to save up as a teenager

You're not even an adult, that is bs

[olive wigeon]

poor famylies are like that sometimes

i can't rly blame them for it thou

[runic wolf]

I don’t even live with the side that makes me give them money

[jaunty crystal]

what the actual fu-