Trying to help someone is now affecting me.

[worn nest]

This post contains: Self-harm, Suicide.

I have this really depressed friend, whom we'll call Luna for privacy reasons.

She has a lot of "friends" that abuse her every chance they get, and they have done this for so long that she's used to it. She wants them to do this to her, and I've been trying to tell her that they don't like her, they want a reaction, they want her dead, but she just won't listen. She often ignores me or rejects help when I try to offer. Every time one of her real friends triggers her PTSD, she grabs scissors and cuts herself open, disregarding the effect it has on the others, especially me. I care about her more than any other one of her friends, and she's just rejecting help. She calls herself a tool, and will soon commit suicide if this continues.

TL;DR: Luna is depressed, I've tried to help, she rejected, she might commit suicide if I don't help.

I honestly don't know what to do, and it's now affecting me as a person. I really need some advice on how I can help her.

[fiery summit]

Does she consider taking therapy sessions?

[worn nest]

No she hasn't.

[fast knoll]

You need to tell adults about the situation. Don’t make the mistake thinking this can be handled by you or us. She may have very serious intentions and could be hiding things.

[fickle cloak]

for the first one,
just tell her the truth
she is dumb because she wants others to hurt her and that it will only make stuff worse for her
for the second one
whats the PTSD?
for the third one,
why does she think that she is a tool?

[worn nest]

The PTSD, I do not know currently.

She thinks she's a tool because all of her "friends" just use her as one.

[fickle cloak]

ironic as fuck
first, her friends abuse her so she just lets them do it
then she hates herself for being a tool to her friends

[fickle cloak]

i would be able to help better when i talk to her myself but thats your choice

[worn nest]

Sorry for the late reply, but she doesn't have discord. Sorry.

[fickle cloak]

well, heres what she needs to do about her friends
Tell her that they are only making things worse for her
She is only a mere tool all because of them and she even accepts it
Tell her that she is much more than just a tool and that she should spend time with better friends

[worn nest]

I'll try. Thank you.

[worn nest]

She said that she wants to stay in the cycle, and/or keep going.

[hexed pier]

Its a lost cause for some ppl bruv

If a person doesnt want help

You cannot help

Same w a druggie

🤷‍♀️

[worn nest]

Dude wtf.

[hexed pier]

Bro you cant help someone if they actively refuse it

Its not a "dude wtf." momen

T

[worn nest]

Weird how convincing exists

[chrome sable]

Hey, I saw this thread and I kind of relate so:

I know this is really hard, and it sucks watching Luna go through this. The best thing you can do is just be there for her, let her know you care, and try not to push too hard. Instead of arguing with her about her "friends," just listen and remind her she’s not alone. But also, don’t forget to take care of yourself if it’s too much, it’s okay to step back a little. Maybe try getting her into small things that make her happy, even if it’s just a distraction. And if things ever get really bad, don’t be afraid to reach out for help. You’re doing your best, and that’s what matters.

[chrome sable]

My last gf(ex) was also like this, the only way that I stopped her was blackmailing her that I'll hurt myself aswell and it worked and she stopped but it took a toll on my mental health, she ended up breaking up with me because she got bored, but I'm happy that she stopped

[hexed pier]

You cant convince ppl so easily

[fickle cloak]

thats kinda dumb

im sure there could be other ways for that

like taking away the stuff for self harming

whats the point of helping someone if they just never look at you again?

[fickle cloak]

tell her how ironic it really is
she feels bad about herself for being a tool
yet she lets herself be a tool and ignores any help
tell her how much worth she really is and that she is a tool because she lets herself be one
and about the PTSD part,
im just a 16 year old and im not a therapist so
convince her to get help
tell her that if she wants to get better and stop with this,
make her get help
take away any kind of sharp objects like scissors away from her
and tell her how stupid committing suicide is
its most likely gonna fail and she will just worsen her physical health from the suicide attempt

[chrome sable]

So charity is pointless?

[chrome sable]

It sucks, but you help because it’s who you are, not for what you get back. It still mattered.

[chrome sable]

I tried, and please don’t say it so unemphatically everyone has different situations yk...

[worn nest]

@chrome sable if you're gonna do this stuff, do this elsewhere. I don't want this bs. I'm desperate to help her no matter what it takes, other than my own life.

[chrome sable]

Bs?

Well I'm sorry for giving you advice

[worn nest]

The "advice" you gave was absolute bs. You said to just not help.

Oh shit

I'm sorry

Wrong person

I thought you were @.E

[worn nest]

it didn't work. she said it's only gonna make things worse if I even try to help. Also this girl is online. I don't know her personally so I can't take any sharp objects away, but I'm honestly gonna cry myself to sleep for the 3rd night after staying up, making sure she's okay. I'm honestly scared that she might commit suicide.

nothing I'm doing is working.
I don't feel like I'm doing enough for her.
I don't think she's gonna make it.

[worn nest]

I didnt see this, and you're right. Maybe I am pushing a bit too much.

Also sorry again for what I said earlier. I honestly thought you were someone else in this thread.