fix old creative skyboxes

[ember plover]

currently both the original and midnight skyboxes use the ls1 terrain as a base, however, the first few skyboxes added, like future, falloween, medieval, winter, and original, all have a strange issue with perspective where the mountains are really low which makes it seem high up, but the ground seems very close. I've put a side by side of the new "midnight" skybox with the "original" skybox which should look the same other than a few minor changes like lighting, trees, and clouds. you can clearly tell that the midnight one has fixed visuals, while the original theme doesn't and has the odd perspective issue. it'd be nice if these old skybox panoramas could be retaken to fix this inconsistency.

the old ones simply don't hold up to the level of quality established with the modern skyboxes like volcano or dragon cave

[ember plover]

plz mt I'm begging

the original skybox is so bad

new one is so good

just change the angle

that's all I ask

the lighting is fine

everything else abt the original background is fine

but the angle itself is so off

[winged pumice]

the midnight one?

[ember plover]

yeah the midnight one is anything but mid lol

it's super useful bc its so generic

also it's just more polished than the s1 one

[ember plover]

bump

[verbal niche]

Thar isn't true, the midnight skybox use the ls2 terrain as a base.

[queen grove]

Also, we need 3d skyboxes back

[ember plover]

The ls2 terrain is exactly the same as the ls1 terrain aside from color and I think the terrain in the night skybox is a completely different color anyway

[ember plover]

bruh even if we kept the 2d skybox, the mountains being like, eye level looks SO much nicer

the weird fish eye stuff goin on with the original background does not look good let's be honest

it can sometimes be good I guess

but in most situations it's terrible

like look at how much better it is

even if you don't make it 3D, just changing the angle of the skybox would help so much

original skybox is like C tier in it's current state, but if you fix it, it would be like, A tier or higher

like, the old skybox's colors were better too ngl

the new one is like blindingly bright

the ever-present and prominent mountains are an integral feature of the original theme, so having them be shoved down and not the most visible in-game makes the original skybox much more underwhelming than it should be

I feel like this render actually highlights the issue quite well

the ground and mountains are all shoved down and the sky is the most prominent part of the skybox itself rather than the look of the mountain range sort of engulfing the play area

in fact, they're so shoved down, that the sky itself takes up over half the skybox!

at this point, why even have mountains?

[ember plover]

it is so hard to make the original skybox work please just fix it so we don't have to do nuts to make it not ugly

[queen grove]

Wow. I actually forgot how good the og LS1 skybox was in creative. Yeah MT, please fix this

[verbal niche]

I dont get what's wrong with it, can you explain to me please?

[queen grove]

The current skyboxes are in 2d and it looks horrible (especially on switch and mobile)

[verbal niche]

What are the differences between 2d background to 3d background?

[queen grove]

Looks. They look worse. Also, they have other issues

[ember plover]

there's like no depth at all and it feels really, idk, lifeless?

also the ls1 skybox in creative has weird visual issues

with like depth and stuff

[verbal niche]

I'm nor against you, I'm just tryna understand what you mean

[queen grove]

Also, the more “detailed” ones look hideous.

[ember plover]

yeah future and scrapyard are kind of iffy

[queen grove]

Same with slime cave and jungle

[ember plover]

I'm less worried abt visual quality and more abt consistency tho ngl

I'm ok with them being 2D as long as they're good

like the midnight skybox

[verbal niche]

Scrapyard is one of the best looking skyboxes in creative imo

[ember plover]

yeah but the compression makes it bad. I love the scrapyard skybox tho

[queen grove]

Same. But Fr, it looks bad. Imagine scrapyard in 3d.

[ember plover]

yeah it would be really laggy

SOOOOO many polygons

[verbal niche]

Can one of you please take a picture of the differences between 2D and 3D?

[queen grove]

Real.

[ember plover]

it's literally right here

just scroll up

read the post

[queen grove]

Errr, look at the comparison between the SS4 LS1 skybox and the fall force skybox

[ember plover]

this post wasn't abt 3D skyboxes btw

[verbal niche]

It looks the same to me tbh

[ember plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1334271632709259264/1352057110770352168/Screen_Recording_20250319_194410_YouTube-ezgif.com-cut.gif

hold on it didn't embed

look there's like actual depth

the 2D skybox is just a panorama mapped to a sphere

[queen grove]

I actually forgot how bad uphill struggle was lol.

[verbal niche]

Oh thanks, now I got it

[ember plover]

here's what they looked like when not wrapped to a sphere lol

literally just pngs

[queen grove]

This unironically looks better lmao.

[ember plover]

I'm more bothered by the perspective of the original theme's 2D skybox rather than it being 2D

the angle is just so ugly

[chilly atlas]

The original 2D skybox really sucks in comparison to the newer ones.

It's super bright and doesn't feel like it did back in S1.

They seriously need to update them.

That and Jungle especially.

[ember plover]

bump

[ember plover]

Bump

[bronze oyster]

true!

[valid yacht]

honestly the only upside i see with these old 2d skyboxes is the fact that they’re a little saturated

makes it look nicer

[bronze oyster]

(late response to why its true)

i agree here as the skyboxes rn are very bland. take a look at old creative - we had a 3D legacy season 1 skybox, but they changed it due to switch issues iirc. they can fix this by making the backgrounds semi 3D, just like legacy season 6 is or, they can change them to have the sky variants (race/hunt) and semi 3D version of them in survival

idk if i make sense but yuh'

[bronze oyster]

jungle too. its so uglt lol

[young matrix]

I honestly cant see 2D skyboxes stay for longer since festival and stadium exist

Festival was somewhat of a stretch but they pretty much added a fully modeled stadium

If this isnt an excuse to not bring back the mountains idk what is

[bronze oyster]

stadium is ugly. the lighting is bad

wish we got the day time one. that ones far more better

[young matrix]

The lightning is off but other than that its a great skybox

[bronze oyster]

no

the day time one is far more better than this

and the space oh my gosh is too purpple

the jungle is hella ugly

original is horrible, too

[young matrix]

Hard disagree

[bronze oyster]

jpw

how

bad chonkert

[ember plover]

same

while the lighting is annoying at times, it looks really cool and the stadium looks amazing

I did kinda want the sky variant tho ngl

a lot of the variants of the skyboxes are different enough that they could add them in the future maybe

[queen grove]

Please mt, 2d skyboxes look so ugly

[bronze oyster]

they should makke everything semi 3d!!!!

[ember plover]

(This post wasn’t even about 3D skyboxes )

[bronze oyster]

(still gr)

[queen grove]

Maybe

[queen grove]

Lmao

These still look cursed

[ember plover]

yeah sadly

[queen grove]

At least the backgrounds this update are in 3d

So hopefully they go back and make all the others in 3d

[ember plover]

Yeah

[queen grove]

Because even on pc, it’s very noticeable

[bold stone]

I'm getting more and more hopeful old skyboxes will turn 3d eventually

it just makes sense

imagine how hard the future skybox would go in 3d

[ember plover]

I feel like if they do it, they’re definitely waiting to drop it all at once

[bold stone]

yeah prob

[ember plover]

And I could imagine some of them being exclusive to high end platforms

Mainly scrapyard

Because scrapyard would be very hardware intensive

[bold stone]

I don't think they'll do the newer ones (eg scrapyard) but the seasonal ones are prob gonna happen

[ember plover]

Possibly yeetropolis too

Yeah especially since they already have the models for them

Jungle might be hard to do tho

[bold stone]

I think the only problem to adding these skyboxes to creative is mainly optimization and if they fit the boundaries or not

[ember plover]

They can always just make the skybox bigger ig

Like scale up the skybox itself

[bold stone]

I remember the stadium skybox being a little inside the boundaries when I loaded it through some... unconventional ways...

[ember plover]

I know for a fact the s1 survival skybox’s slime lake wouldn’t cover the entire bottom of the building zone

[ebon monolith]

kinda unrelated but why can't they replace every 2d legacy skybox with their 3d counterpart at this point

especially ls4 because the colours and lighting look awful

also the sky in creative is static even though the night skybox has shooting stars

[grizzled temple]

they changed it for mobile

[ember plover]

fe fi fo fum who ghost pinged me

[queen grove]

Me.
I had an idea on how they could do skyboxes but honestly I thought it was dumb

[ember plover]

I have stupid ideas all the time lol

[queen grove]

Well mine was basically have the front part of the skybox be 3d but the back be 2d (until I saw that picture of the ls4 skybox and thought it was dumb lol)

[ember plover]

like recently I was thinking abt how they might as well bring back seasons and unity rounds since they've been sort of dismissing anything made by the community for almost a year now

[ember plover]

a lot of them do that but it'd be cool if we could customize those seperately too

[queen grove]

Yeah. Actually maybe they should add a low power mode to fall guys and it uses 2d skyboxes

And use 3d for non power mode

[queen grove]

I agree, especially now spotlight is dead and the only way to get your level seen is in a show with thousands of them

[coral loom]

RIP 3D sky box

[ember plover]

I don't think they're gonna fix any of this

[ember plover]

bumping this bc on top of it having a screwed up perspective, the colors are way oversaturated

[coral loom]

bump

[ember plover]

so they changed the outer sky texture for above the clouds to be the one from like, tundra run and stuf?

it's got the pink gradient foggy clouds from ls3

even though the terrain texture and weather are unchanged

[ember plover]

also here's some more images to show what this is like and how it affects the aesthetics of a level

[torn jolt]

They had fogs with it when they just make like round like a skybox 2D. That round background clouds are kinda look like a cyan instead white

[queen grove]

I wish they would fix this

[ember plover]

I miss when I used to have fun in this server

it's just devolved into perpetually bashing my head into a wall

[queen grove]

It’s like that squidward gif lol