#In game cursor

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dim widget
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We should be able to freely edit the cross hair size

sand ermine
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Crosshair size refers to your accuracy.

If you could manually change the size, you'd no longer be able to see how accurate you'd be.

dim widget
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Not a question of accuracy but I mean if you could like minimise cross hair size to be less present, this is called true accuracy

sand ermine
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If you could change a setting to minimize crosshair size, you won't know your actual accuracy for the weapon held.

This "true accuracy" would be a lie you set for yourself.

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Imagine minimizing your crosshair for a shotgun, for example, then having bullets spray absolutely everywhere because you have no idea how close you need to be to reasonably hit your target.

dim widget
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And what if my goal isn't to check the spread of this shotgun? My goal is only to minimize the cross hair.

Lets take CSGO example, it has the same cross hair as gunfire but less present and yet no one rage about shotgun spread

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I play scinder and do you think I take my time to shoot in R9? I just shoot randomly in ennemie's direction

terse cave
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I agree, I would only like either a choice of reticle or reducing the size of the reticle on screen

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Because I think it takes up too much space on the screen

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This kind of reticle is nice

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But the reticle of this weapon is too big in my opinion

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dim widget
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Yh clearly plus who will aim with far side of the weapon? Everyone will try to center the cross hair

solemn void
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imagine getting annoyed by 4 lines on a screen Justice

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The reticle only exists if you focus on it

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I don't know a single person besides you two who care about the size of it

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Not only would you be sabatoging yourself, it's a useless feature almost nobody would use, and devs would waste their time implementing it

dim widget
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Obviously alone

terse cave
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I didn't think there were devs with such a narrow way of thinking. Disappointed to be interested in such play and contempt.

dim widget
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Honestly I came to suggest and you guys are talking like this?

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You guys canj simply said "Devs won't add this to the game" end of the discussion

terse cave
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We ask if it is possible. We have contempt.

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Great mentality.

solemn void
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They're asking for a different color and maybe a different shape

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not a self sabatoge

dim widget
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Yh just a size adjusting

solemn void
sand ermine
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Oh and another thing is some of the weapons use the crosshair for more than accuracy.

Dual Fang has its charge bar within the crosshair, I think Dragonchaser and Rainbow have indicators added for when you've got a mark deployed, and Radioactive Gauntlet has the beat timer.

So reducing the crosshair to a minimized dot would make those weapons harder to use properly as well.

dim widget
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No but imagine just resizing the cross hair not features

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Like the cross hair is just an PNG no? But everything that come like charging bar and such are just devs things

solemn void
terse cave
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Whether it is difficult for us or not, what is the problem if some people want a smaller or larger reticle? Are you the one who will use it?

solemn void
sand ermine
sand ermine
solemn void
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It's not a matter of "devs won't add it durr hurr end of discussion"

It's "theres no point for devs to add it, because it hurts players, doesn't do anything and wastes their time"

terse cave
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Why are you talking to us as if you were?

solemn void
dim widget
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So if we want to do it by ourselves is there a way to mod the game?

solemn void
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I think moddings illegal

dim widget
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Like does dev allow it?

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I see

solemn void
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you might be able to change a png in file explorer or something

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but I wouldn't try to mess with the game

dim widget
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Yh but I messed Ill just reinstall the game

sand ermine
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Going into discussions about modding the game also isn't allowed here, in accordance with those same developer wishes, with only a single exception.

dim widget
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But to resume we just suggested a custom cross hair, there is nothing to do with easiest shoot, aim, accuracy

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our shotgun spread

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or**

solemn void
sand ermine
solemn void
dim widget
solemn void
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being able to change the size will hurt players

dim widget
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Its the good will of people, when you create a game do you really mind how people will play it?

solemn void
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Kinda

terse cave
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We offer a suggestion. It's not an obligation. We play we come up with an idea. Whether good or not. feasible or not.

solemn void
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Especially if its multiplayer

solemn void
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or why we think its not feasible

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You aren't barred from criticism

dim widget
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Exactly its a debate but you put args that have nothing to do

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Like shotgun spread

solemn void
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Smaller reticle hurts your aim with shotguns

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its an example

dim widget
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Lets center the discussion, I said I suggested this because it takes a lot on the screen (in my opinion)

terse cave
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The majority of FPS games have done this. So is it infeasible? I don't think you're people we can talk to. you are missing the point.

solemn void
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and majority of FPS game make it so you can change reticle color

terse cave
dim widget
solemn void
terse cave
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CS:GO

solemn void
dim widget
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So you know its almost all games

solemn void
dim widget
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Never played borderlands

solemn void
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never played valo

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Your point?

terse cave
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And ?

solemn void
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also, just because a majority of games do it, doesn't mean GFR is obligated to

dim widget
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You said yourself that the cross hair was a PNG, and even I know it, so how would it take times or be hard?

terse cave
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You know what. I don't care about your opinion. I propose an idea for a game that I like.

solemn void
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I said "maybe you can change a png"

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as in "it might be a png"

terse cave
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You are clearly of bad faith.

dim widget
solemn void
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I did not make promises

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because I do not know if its a png

solemn void
terse cave
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It's not even debating, it's just talking to a wall without argument.

solemn void
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glad to see we both feel that way

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especially because you haven't contributed anything

sand ermine
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Should stop it here before it devolves into insults.

dim widget
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By the way does devs read those threads?

solemn void
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It always end that way

solemn void
dim widget
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Because it could be cool of everyone could debate with us

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Its interesting

terse cave
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I'm proposing an idea that many people have. You denigrate without having any argument. It is a fact.

dim widget
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Custom crosshair seems to be a big discussion

sand ermine
dim widget
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I mean steam, reddit

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When you said it will make our game harder if we change our size, what do you know about that?

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Maybe Im an esport player and know how to play with no cross hair

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Those type of args can just be like "Im good you are not" plus people will be able to freely choose ("custom")

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Like videos settings,

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Imagine sensivity: why can I put 100?? Bring me 1 person that play with this sensivity?

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We should limit it as well as it will hurt players

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100 audio at the beginning of the game, imagine if I had my sound at max, I would destroy my ears

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As you can see custom is personnal to people, so in my opinion it shouldn't be choosen or decided by other. That's why Im SUGGESTING that and as I saw some internet discussions about that crosshair thing

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If devs don't add it its fine Im not going to rage on them, its their game but as there is a SUGGESTION channel I try to "contribute" to the game

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So give me an argument that can tell me that it hurts me if I resize my crosshair, as my main suggest was because I think its a bit too big

solemn void
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jeez

solemn void
dim widget
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Can you resend it here I forgot lol

solemn void
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  1. If you make your crosshair smaller, you will not have a reliable way to see where your pellets will go. An EXAMPLE of this is shotgun spread. Shotgun cursors show you the general area where bullets will go when you fire them. If you make this smaller, it becomes redundant
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  1. Weapons like dual fang or sunder, have cursors with an actual purpose
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dual fangs cursor shows how much it's charged, sunder cursor shows where bullets will split iirc, and those aren't the only weapons that have cursor effects

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making the reticle smaller will make it harder for players to see these effects

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(These effects are built into the cursor, not off to the side like radioactive glove or jet octopus)

terse cave
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"custom"

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With choices.

solemn void
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Size should not be changed

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shape and color can be changed in most scenarios

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Devs should not add a feature that actively harms players in exchange for a little bit of aestheticism

terse cave
solemn void
dim widget
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If its personnal what players will be harmed?

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When I switch my video settings to low does it harm you?

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Let me finish

solemn void
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So you're saying let people harm their gameplay if they want to

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that's fine

dim widget
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YES IT IS THEIR CHOICE

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"CUSTOM"

solemn void
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but what about the players who dont know it harms them

dim widget
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CUSTOM

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if I want to put low video settings it will harm me ofc but its my choice

solemn void
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What if I'm brand new and I go "Smaller reticle! Seems nice!"

terse cave
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How does that “harm”? that does not make any sense.

solemn void
terse cave
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They will change

solemn void
dim widget
terse cave
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My god it's difficult to make two clicks and change the size of a crosshair.

solemn void
dim widget
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YES IT IS

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it is your args

solemn void
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The point is if I take a smaller crosshair without knowing it harms me

dim widget
solemn void
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then my gameplay is affected

terse cave
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Nope.

solemn void
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And I have no idea why

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yep.

dim widget
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So when your video settings are ULTRA at the start and the game crash what do you do?

solemn void
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People are not this smart

solemn void
dim widget
terse cave
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The game would set a crosshair by default. the one already existing. Players will be able to change their appearances.

dim widget
dim widget
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Your args

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How can you tell me that??

solemn void
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your args are "let people harm themselves if they want to"

dim widget
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ITS THE BASE OF THE GAME

solemn void
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your args are "People can harm themselves without knowing they're harming themselves"

terse cave
dim widget
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Look all character and guns that are in the game and suck af

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They should be removed nbecause they are bad?

solemn void
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No?

dim widget
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Your game at the start won't have smallest reticle ever, it will be a feature

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Like settings

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Audio, video

solemn void
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and if I'm used to CSGO smaller cursor

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and I see the option for a smaller cursor

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I take it

dim widget
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Then why do you debate against us?

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Honestly this is speechless

solemn void
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and now, my gameplay is affected, and I don't know why

solemn void
dim widget
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You just said "and I see the option for a smaller cursor
I take it"

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Then you go back and reverse it

solemn void
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Let me make this as clear as possible

terse cave
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We are all new players to games.

dim widget
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Oh yh excuse me "People are not this smart"

solemn void
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I'm BRAND NEW to gunfire.

I have NO IDEA that a smaller cursor can harm me

I like small cursors

I look in my settings, and take a small cursor

Now, my gameplay is affected, and I don't know its because of the small cursor

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE GAME TO KNOW IT WOULD HURT ME

dim widget
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Please if you like debating, take 30 mins to scroll up and think about what you said

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I look in my settings, and take a small cursor

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Now, my gameplay is affected, and I don't know its because of the small cursor

solemn void
dim widget
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Honestly at this point if you changed something and you don't know what then you are low IQ

solemn void
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you mistook my words

dim widget
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But at the start the reticle won't be customed

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it will be default

solemn void
dim widget
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SMALLER CROSSHAIR WILL BE CHOSEN

solemn void
dim widget
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So how can it harms player??

solemn void
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I GO INTO MY SETTINGS, SEE "Oh I can have a smaller cursor! Sure!"

solemn void
dim widget
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Yh

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so?

solemn void
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but that will still affect gameplay for some people

dim widget
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Good job you defined custom word

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Indeed

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When you change something

terse cave
dim widget
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it edits your local folder and only you is harmed

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So you reverse and you are fine

solemn void
dim widget
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I stop here

solemn void
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I just see the option for a small cursor in settings and I take it, without knowing it harms me

dim widget
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You are definitely not normal

solemn void
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You are definitely not good at understanding the english language

terse cave
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Hahaha

dim widget
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So you see it, then you click, and you have small cursor but you don't know? Despite you just choosed an option right before

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At this point you are a bit weird

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Limit to 0 IQ

solemn void
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you don't know it hurts your gameplay

dim widget
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ofc as you clicked on it

solemn void
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BECAUSE YOU'RE BRAND NEW TO THE GAME

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You opted to have the small cursor, without knowing the downsides

dim widget
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Trust me if people changed cursor and sucks because of that they will reverse

solemn void
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they don't know its the cursor

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because again

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THEY'RE BRAND NEW

dim widget
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"I just see the option for a small cursor in settings and I take it, "

terse cave
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Anyway. So let us talk to someone who has a normally constituted brain. please.

solemn void
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if its a veteran, sure

dim widget
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see the option for a small cursor in settings and I take it

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option for a small cursor in settings and I take it

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I take it

terse cave
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We losing time with you.

solemn void
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move on with your life

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there are better ways to deal with this

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than bitch about it

terse cave
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You are a useless wall.

solemn void
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ok

terse cave
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So let dev talking with us pls

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And leave

dim widget
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You are not normal, how can't you know you are harming yourelf when you just changed somethign for it? At this point you are either not in life or totally stupid

terse cave
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Thx

solemn void
solemn void
dim widget
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This thread is a masterclass

solemn void
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how do I know something harms me if I don't know it harms me

dim widget
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Ill take a video for my peronsnal collection

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I truly hope devs will read this thread in their dinner time, they will laugh

solemn void
terse cave
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I'm laughing so hard right now.

solemn void
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I gave you guys what you asked for, told you why this harms players, how it harms new players, and now it devolves to insults

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can't wait to see how this turns out

terse cave
dim widget
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You literally said that you changed something, it harms you but you don't know its harming you, then how do you know its harming you?

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I mean

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Its like you changed your video settings to 4k with a 1080 screen, you are lagging but you don't know its cause of that

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The same vibe

terse cave
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This is not an insult but a reality. It can be hard sometimes, I understand. Maybe you should question yourself?

dim widget
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On a game like Valorant, whatever if you changed your crosshair but you can't see head because its big, or small and you can't see it then you change it. How can it harms you? It harms you if you don't know what you are doing

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You are right mb I shouldn't have said you are a bit low IQ

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But you say nosense sentences and can't even bring args

terse cave
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Masterclass

dim widget
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I told you the current crosshair is big (FOR ME AND ONLY MY OPINIONà

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its the default crosshair I agree

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But if Im a noob and the game is fine like this I'll at least read settings options don't you think?

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How do you buy your game?

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You are throwing money like this on the first game you see?

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Or read the desc and watch the trailer?

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If like you said you are changing something and know that you have something incomfortbale cause if that then you reverse

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When you navigate on Internet and click on a scam, who clicked? Who made the choice?

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Its the person right until you should be able to understand

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The person made his choice, if i make my choice to switch my crosshair its MY responsability

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And your arg is useless, I don't suggest devs to make a smallest crosshair based but a resize feature in a menu

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So still staying a CHOICE

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Please look definition of "choice" and "custom"

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And in the worst case the game still has his "RESET BY DEFAULT"

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You know?

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Weird in the setting I can set the crosshair opacity

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to 0! Imagine to 0! Ill hurt myself if I have no crosshair (true for 99,9% of players)

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Damn devs harm players

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You can easily understand there are issues with your args

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DEVS you are harming my game, I set my opacity to 0 and I don't have crosshair anymore

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but remember I don't know its hurting me

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I just don't know what I did to have no crosshair what can I do

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I can't see my crosshair but I don't know I have no crosshair, I imagine it in my head

terse cave
dim widget
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Why can I choose my opacity?

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and my sensivity to 100 or 0?

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Man literally said: I changed an option, I don't know its harming me (???????) but you don't know its harming me

sand ermine
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I'm gonna write it all out nice and clearly so you can get what the previous guy meant.

  1. New player starts playing.

  2. New player sees the option for small crosshairs in settings.

  3. New player, having experience in other games with small crosshairs and liking them, turns on small crosshairs.

  4. New player plays with small crosshairs, completely oblivious to the fact that they no longer have an accuracy indicator or weapon mechanic assist, because they haven't played long enough to realize such a thing exists.

  5. New player, not realizing that they've sabotaged themselves, continues to use small crosshairs and does not reverse their decision. They do not know there is a downside, because they accidentally removed the upside to big crosshairs without realizing it existed in the first place.

dim widget
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I am astonished

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How a new player that is reading and turning the option to have a small cursor

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won't know that they have that and can't reverse it?

sand ermine
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Knowing the upsides exist requires in-game experience.

terse cave
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Click: Default

dim widget
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And in the worst case the game still has his "RESET BY DEFAULT"
You know?

sand ermine
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You can access settings before gaining experience.

dim widget
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Please can yoçu answer one question

sand ermine
terse cave
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Is this a joke? Are we in a world of Care Bears?

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Do you take people for idiots?

dim widget
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So when you choose something, and you know that you can't aim correctly so you keep using it?

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On a game like Valorant, whatever if you changed your crosshair but you can't see head because its big, or small and you can't see it then you change it. How can it harms you? It harms you if you don't know what you are doing

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I copy pasted but its the point

terse cave
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Anyone with a normally constituted brain can read at least a little.

dim widget
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IF the guy chosen his option, how won't he knows that ??

sand ermine
dim widget
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Understand something

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When you change something and you can't aim correctly ot whatever

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YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY reverse

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I mean its like video settings

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you have HD screen but put 4K

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and you lag

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You will OBVIOUSLY SWITCH BACK

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Its basic brain

sand ermine
dim widget
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At this point I truly think that you guys think New players are dumb

dim widget
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Why can I set my opacity to 0?

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And remove my crosshair completely

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Its harming me yet devs put it

sand ermine
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Because you can see the self-sabotage immediately.

dim widget
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LIKE CROSSHAIR

sand ermine
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You cannot see the self-sabotage for losing accuracy assist with a crosshair immediately.

This requires gameplay experience to notice, which you would not have.

dim widget
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So if I set the opacity to 0 and do the same with the SIZE of my crosshair

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I will SO BE ABLE TO SEE THE RESULT INSTANTLY

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Good job you went beyond your point

terse cave
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Well done. It's the same thing that chose the size.

dim widget
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Masterclass thread really

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Do you shoot tornado as well?

terse cave
dim widget
terse cave
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Oh shit

dim widget
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You don't know it though

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To resume

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Players are completely dumb

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thanks to everyone

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Its the end for me

sand ermine
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Welp, I tried.

I wonder if anyone else will also try. Maybe they'll be more successful than me.

terse cave
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You clearly take people for idiots.

dim widget
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I click on something, but I don't know what will it cause, and I don't know how to reverse

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Thats the resume

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and the main argument of why custom crosshair shouldn't be a featured

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Ill see with reddit and steam poster for more advice

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I wanted to help this game because for 15 dollars its god game

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I shouldn't have posted that it seems

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I will remember one thing "People are not that smart"

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And don't know how to change settings

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Then Ill make a second post

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"Put an intro on how to use gunfire reborn settings"

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With this thread as link

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Devs will have to take time to record a video of what will do each option

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and make sure players are not harmed

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Btw we can also harm ourselves with the difficulty, sometimes I get one shot in R9 and I don't see the bullet

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Maybe crosshair issue or devs issue

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Thanks everyone for debatting

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By the way there is a little screen in the settings on the crosshair thing, you can see directly the change before applying.