Steam 2

[carmine ermine]

If you have both selected, yes.

If I recall correctly.

[floral crest]

heh yes thx, just cant find any atm

[strange river]

does anbody know how to this game with mods?

[carmine ermine]

With an exception of the VR mod, talk about game mods is not allowed here.

[strange river]

okay

thanks

[storm haven]

Is it normal that endless goblet stacks dont show up if im playing the save on another machine?

[earnest minnow]

Tao with shotgun?

Dev tryin to cookin somethin

[carmine ermine]

Illusion has always been a weapon she can use well.

[earnest minnow]

Yea

[carmine ermine]

The RoF isn't impressive, but the hit count is.

[spice forum]

Illusion can trigger her secondary like crazy

and for a shotgun decent ammo use so the primary doesnt suffer as much as well

[edgy lodge]

Illusion is overall a very good weapon

[earnest minnow]

Yea

Shotgun shootin fast

Gud shotgun

[shell patrol]

if weapon recycling gave recycle stacks i would have a billion

[earnest minnow]

Nah

That would be too op since we automaticaly recycle the guns

[shell patrol]

wait whta

you can AUTOMATICALLY recycle them??

also how about

one stack for every 5 weapons

[spice forum]

not really , sometimes you get 4-6 weapons per room in a row

Especially with elite encounters and clones

[earnest minnow]

Yea?

[shell patrol]

huh?

i always manuall recycle them

whyh

[shell patrol]

ok then, 10?

[trim swan]

You didn't know?

[shell patrol]

nope

is it a setting

or what

[trim swan]

No

[shell patrol]

then what

[trim swan]

It's automatic in the game

[shell patrol]

... guns?

i can only autorecycle goblets

[trim swan]

Why do you think you get more money every time you enter a new area

[shell patrol]

... wait

so weapons i leave behind get autorecycled?

[trim swan]

It automatically just recycles the guns and scrolls you don't pick up

[shell patrol]

lmao

well, guess im stupid

didnt knoe

[trim swan]

which is funny because that means we technically interact with the green scrolls in speedruns even though we're not supposed to

[shell patrol]

green scrolls? huh?

[trim swan]

Scrolls you unlock after killing specific number of enemies n stuff

[shell patrol]

oh lmao

are you not supposed to?

[trim swan]

And green weapons

[shell patrol]

why would you not be allowed to though

imo it should be a valid strategy lul

[trim swan]

Honestly I'm not quite sure

[shell patrol]

mfw you get every unlockable scroll in the game in one run

after killing 49 enemies

for eacj

[dire jolt]

steadily building up time!! >w<"

[long sparrow]

i cant even beat epic

[earnest minnow]

It's a default in the Recycle Talent thou

[dire jolt]

its nice having so much damage resistance

[storm haven]

Whats your build?

[dire jolt]

it's fox. she's built Ford tough.

but yeah im focusing on bloody ammo and damage bonuses when you take damage when bloody ammo is in effect along with dormant bullet (non-enhanced to keep my ammo count at 0)

everything is enhanced now lol

59/60 scrolls are enhanced

[storm haven]

Thanks, this is interesting

[dire jolt]

also i have cd redux and cd reset on my dash along with that one scroll that gives me invincibility for 2seconds every time i dash twice :v

[storm haven]

I assume you use Thunder Storm more than Spiritual Flame in the early stages of Endless?

[dire jolt]

so im just kinda bumper cars-ing into enemies 🤣

i dont even focus on skill build fox :v

im investing all my ascension power in weapon build and elemental damage and damage mitigation and auto meteor proc that debuffs the enemies and make them less resistant to fire damage

and the only time i use spiritual flame, is when im using her Energy Draining spiritual to increase the attack speed of the thunder storm acquisition arcs

while the thunderstorm is Agile with a RoF increase blue roll that goes up to +100 :v

its a silly build that stupidly works

even after they fixed the thunder storm bug lol

[storm haven]

Thanks for explaining your build gonna try this out soon 🙏

I have 2 Thunder Storm in my Arsenal, originally for Dog

But they are gonna have a new owner soon

[dire jolt]

I recommend geting elemental rage and monke's total eradication. its so GUD!
but for the ascension build.... here it is.

flame talisman is what's making me mostly tanky

[storm haven]

God I love this game

[dire jolt]

and here's the 60 scrolls I use. :v

[storm haven]

Gotta enhance em all

[dire jolt]

also i stopped enhancing my weapons :v got bored.

ill possibly start working on the fire tower again and get it to 420

[storm haven]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-dance-swag-moves-groove-gif-4909559655781654812

[earnest minnow]

Karma, i had a Rainbow that hav 140% Fire chance

But didn't sc it...sagde

[dire jolt]

140?! o_O"

[earnest minnow]

Yea

Sadly i didn't take the sc

[shell patrol]

flame talisman!!!

[shell patrol]

pyrodominance/electrodominance + elemental rage when it

@dire jolt is energy draining good?

[shell patrol]

i had a 240% thunderstorm from the enhanced elemental uhhh what was it again?

fox is so silly

[shell patrol]

i love the bloody ammo + deadly counter sillyness

[edgy lodge]

I have a screenshot lying around with 1000+ element chance lol

[edgy lodge]

yes

[shell patrol]

hm ok when i tried it i had trouble keeping it on for over 5 seconds

[shell patrol]

silly

what happens when you have over 100 element chance though?

does it apply stuff like combustion twice?

[edgy lodge]

nah it don't do anything

[shell patrol]

aw

it would be silly to stack elements

[shell patrol]

@edgy lodge does endless have vaults and such? and does it have Phantom Peddlers

[trim swan]

I'm not Teaa but I think only boundless has vaults and such, endless doesn't have vaults or phantom peddlers iirc

[shell patrol]

what does it have to get scrolls and to upgrade them then?

events, peddlers and red chests?

[shrewd geyser]

yeah it's peddlers and red chests, events and bosses as well

[edgy lodge]

yes and yes

I would play Boundless more if R9 Boundless scaled the same as Endless

[shrewd geyser]

tbh they should've made boundless just endless without timer

[silk pendant]

Tao looks sick with a shotgun!

[shell patrol]

imo boundless is fine but it should have endless scaling

[raw merlin]

because I'm trash, not playing Painkiller Prince means not having enough crowd control before something either breaks through everything I have, sneaks up on me, or corners me even though I know how to fight them because my characters speed just isn't fast enough

aka I cannot for the life of me make it past the jokul with anyone except PainPrince

[long sparrow]

do i clear epic difficulty if i just beat Yoruhime-Maru?

[raw merlin]

I believe so yes

[long sparrow]

i tried beating epic with cat 20 times and did not succeed but first try with dog i succeeded he is strong

[edgy lodge]

honest, it should have been that
I wouldn't care if the lower difficulties were lower scaling, but R9 should have been the same

[shell patrol]

you're playing cat wrong then

he is broken as shit

[shell patrol]

try nona

[long sparrow]

how do i play him right

[shell patrol]

elemental weapons, duh

[long sparrow]

i do but i never get more than 40% elemental damage

i keep only getting orb and grenade upgrades

[still ravine]

Just discovered that Tao with Ammo Extractor and a Demonlore is probably one of the most broken and easy to do combos in the game

especially if you can get a demonlore that gets more projectiles on kill

[floral remnant]

I find it sad outside of Ammo Extracter , i find the smgs hard to just use :( or anything that needs alot of ammo spam to do decent dps and has small mag count.

[floral remnant]

Finally onto R8 , R9 is just on the horizon. :> I love my bird man. 💜

[trim swan]

Good luck!

[gritty thistle]

ahem

gentlemen?

At long last, I have finally returned

[nova loom]

making good progress to my challenge

[gritty thistle]

Impressive

I hope one day to progress that far with my Ao Brick style

[nova loom]

i feel the AoBrick could break that

just keep chuckin those bricks

[gritty thistle]

Oh I'm about to

[nova loom]

im just using my favorite boi

and doin funny things while i run though levles

[earnest minnow]

[wise citrus]

shit game

[raw merlin]

so the Woodpeckers description says that when scoped, "it gains a stacking damage bonus, requiring the player to make quick burst attack to utilize the bonus. The bonus is kept when scoping is off. ", I don't get what that means

so stacks of damage bonuses accumulate while you're scoped, but it stays even when you unscope?

it doesn't say anything about it wearing off either

[carmine ermine]

When scoped, hitting enemies gives a stackable damage bonus. It decays over time.

When unscoped, the bonus doesn't decay, but you don't get the damage bonus either.

[raw merlin]

ooooh

[earnest minnow]

Overall, sniper rifles have good damage but sh*t fire rate and buffs

I only seein ya guys bringin the Star bow for the 5 Critx

[dire jolt]

use things with fire element proc and rapid fire

here is my progress so far :v

ive been bapping things with this fire tower

[floral remnant]

Took a few failed runs but we clutch with weapons basically from the first area XD

Snake boss is a massive meanie.

[raw merlin]

I use Woodpecker as part of a chain lightning spam build on Lei Luo

long range chain lightning spam with woodpecker, primary skill lightning govenor if I get surrounded so I can flee, because the last thing I want is a stray invulnerable lantern to sneak up on me and send me to sky brazil

[velvet brook]

Hello

i recently returned to the game, im still finding out things lol

[earnest minnow]

I see

[long sparrow]

does nightmare have better loot than normal?

[carmine ermine]

Its got more soul essence drops than Normal difficulty.

[nova loom]

congrats~

[floral remnant]

Honestly my friend went quiet in vc so I could concentrate lol , I tried a run since he was curious what R9 is and he was shocked to see how drastically the enemies change lol 😂

[nova loom]

yea R9 is a kick to the mouth the first time

it gets hard but it's very fun

im doing an infinite run of r9 rn and having a great time

[raw merlin]

I have not bought the DLC, how exactly do the new characters play?

like, I read the wiki, but, how do they feel to play

my impression just from reading is that they both look way busier

[storm haven]

fox: spam big fireball that deals gigantic damage, or make your weapons summon small fireballs
panda: chicken go hulk smash or chicken go tf2 sentry gun, you have affinity with pistols
owl: slots simulator that can buff your main skill which is sending 10 cards at one go that deal big damage like you are gambit or your secondary skill which is call down a huge AOE circle, also you can reroll scrolls

i have not played enough monkey to describe how he feels

[shell patrol]

how bout the funny slippery lizard

[dire jolt]

not slippery...

slappy

[shell patrol]

no, its the other lizard

the one thats slippery

[dire jolt]

They're both slappy

[velvet brook]

What is the highest level you can reach? I'm on reincarnation 4 i believe. I'm not too sure if that's good or normal.

But I would like to get better lol

[earnest minnow]

Wat did i miss?

[shell patrol]

one is slippery AND slappy

and its the cooler one

i assume its good on firefox?

[wise citrus]

is console dead

[dire jolt]

one is a machine gun lizard and the other is a cannon ball.... i think they're both good in some silly ways

[storm vector]

why is r9 so tough to get out of the first stage -_-

i'm legit losing my patience with it

[velvet brook]

Yo I reached reincarnation 5

[dire jolt]

its rough at the start

but if you get decent rng

[storm haven]

reincarnation 9

also highest is 188 if you meant like talent level

[wise citrus]

whats the fastest way to grind levels

i cant beat the first boss so i barely get any when i do a run

[dire jolt]

Revengeance. final boss is Senator Armstrong and he has NANOMACHINES, SON!

[storm haven]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-senator-armstrong-tear-smile-wholesome-senator-armstrong-smile-senator-armstrong-proud-armstrong-smile-gif-25514955

[dire jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[velvet brook]

Ahh gotcha

[velvet brook]

I PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YOU KNOW!!!

[wise citrus]

how do i decrease the cooldown for dodge

[velvet brook]

I did get help from my brother and his friends cause they are crazy

[dire jolt]

theres that one spiritual blessing that gives you a percentage to your cd reduction for how many elites you kill... and theres some old boots or something scroll that reduces your dash cooldown by 50%

[storm haven]

scrolls

advanced joggers

[wise citrus]

is there a way to speed up the grind

[dire jolt]

oh yeah old soggy sanic shoes

[storm haven]

for me i just played the shit out of the hardest difficulty i can manage

then slowly fill out the tree

[dire jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-brickorzo-gif-26023619

[wise citrus]

oh ok... i can't even beat the boss of the first stage

only beat em once

[storm haven]

how much playtime u got

[wise citrus]

one hour but nine games

level 16 rn

[storm haven]

this game is harsh, fucks you up fast i got screwed over many times when i started, even now i still get screwed over

[wise citrus]

im just not good at video games so i'm hoping grind can help me

like hades

[storm haven]

in gunfire having more players helps more than grind

[dire jolt]

same

[wise citrus]

yeah sucks i'm on console

[dire jolt]

but then you get that goated start

[wise citrus]

nobody is online fo matchmaking

[velvet brook]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshi-meme-golf-9iron-lobotomy-gif-23908124

[dire jolt]

and thats what gets the run going

[velvet brook]

L

[storm haven]

yeah wanted to say how do you even aim in console, controller aiming isnt intuitive to me unlike mouse and keyboard

[storm haven]

try the lfg channels

[dire jolt]

or you clutch the first stage and barely get out with like 1HP and a dream

[velvet brook]

I'm probably gonna play later after my interview

[storm haven]

for now just slowly learn the enemy types in the tomb, their patterns, which one to take out first

[dire jolt]

and then die to corrosive arsonist dudes in stage 2 😿

[storm haven]

tomb is legit the hardest act you are at your weakest, its cramped af, theres aoe spammers theres a freaking aimbot enemy

[dire jolt]

i hate the big dudes with the shots that follow you.. they suck..

and then theres the machine gun crossbow dudes

[storm haven]

real af, especially R9 ones, those bastards have damage resistance for some reason and i always have to pack a hard hitting gun

also slowly get more weps @wise citrus and see which one works for you

when i was new i fell in love with the kunai type weps, especially the lightning one

[dire jolt]

so stupid they give them resistance and near invincibility from behind :v

i was shooting them from behind and i was doing no damage and i was like "h u h"

[storm haven]

would you rather be 360 surrounded by 2000 pyro lanterns or fight 200 arsonists head on with a peashooter in an open area

[dire jolt]

i think i would just rather be dead and not live at all uwu

ill have someone else deal with that fate

[storm haven]

same

its my personal hell

[wise citrus]

even when i beat the boss i die on the first stage of the desert

wtf are these difficulty spikes

[wise citrus]

this game actually sucks

it's fucking stupid to be having a great run and then an enemy randomly kills you in a ridiculously high 100+ dmg burst of damage

actually terrible game

[raw merlin]

thaaaaats the Gunfire experience TM

if you're not tanking zenloss after zenloss like a true masochist, gunfire ain't fun

there is no middle ground, either you get destroyed with no remorse, or you destroy everything with no remorse

oh yeah, and Tao is a noobtrap

[signal lotus]

im still fairly new, what does tao actually do ?

[raw merlin]

Tao specializes in high Rate of Fire weapons

all her skills want you to be firing as fast and long as possible

the skill tree working the way it does, newer players won't have nearly the amount of tools to manage that, in addition to not really being able to make good use of her full kit early on

[velvet brook]

Lei Luo specializes in snipers right?

My brain rot in immense

[storm haven]

Yep

[storm haven]

I wished you got the pc ver tbh

You will have an easier time

[velvet brook]

How yall doing today?

[strange anchor]

I got destroyed by 3 elite arsonists in elite gathering today so not good

[velvet brook]

Pain

[storm haven]

Tried tiger and cat for endless couldn’t make it that far

[velvet brook]

Oof

I am maining the tiger for now

My adhd brain likes the lightning

Also I really love the brick, it is by far the funniest shit I've ever seen lol

[wise citrus]

pls console players

need co-op. i'm hoping the experience is better than solo.

[carmine ermine]

Why are you asking for console teammates... in a channel for Steam players?

#1116489527872204932 would work better. Or better yet the LFG channels designed for asking for teammates.

[wise citrus]

itz ded

[carmine ermine]

Irrelevant. If there is no one in the actual channel for what you're after, why do you think asking in an unrelated channel that definitely would have no one would be better?

[wide sail]

so havent played in a while lasty few times ive tried after the update multiplayer is a lag fest solo has fps drop ive been frozen in place a fewe times stutters ect wtf happened

[wise citrus]

thsi game is just not not designed for solo

too many enemies who do way too much damage

[carmine ermine]

It is designed for solo, it's just multiplayer has 2 talents that makes it borderline impossible to lose.

[trim swan]

(late) that's every roguelike experience

[wise citrus]

no

[carmine ermine]

Not every rougelike, but it is every roguelike with high sustain, low capacity health systems like Gunfire uses.

AKA you're really good at recovering from hits, but suck at taking many hits at once.

[trim swan]

Twas close enouf

[wise citrus]

few roguelikes make you go full health to death in like a second

[carmine ermine]

I can think of Noita and Heroes of Hammerwatch just off the top of my head.

Most roguelikes however have low sustain, high capacity health systems. Usually in the form of you only take 1 damage per hit and get invincibility, but health pickups are rare.

[trim swan]

[carmine ermine]

In any case, not many roguelikes give you a second life every single run, guaranteed.

[velvet brook]

School is a rougelike

Lol

[kindred prairie]

why didnt this unlock the border?

is it because of the cursed scroll or because of lone wolf counting as 2 players?

[trim swan]

Cursed scroll

[carmine ermine]

Cursed scroll counts.

[kindred prairie]

man

[trim swan]

I just went for all legendary scrolls on mine because I hate myself sometimes

But yeah cursed scrolls count twords

[kindred prairie]

you know what im gonna do it with only legendary now too

[trim swan]

Good luck lol

[kindred prairie]

but i can reroll scrolls right when they are on the ground

[trim swan]

Yeah

I'll aim to reroll rare scrolls so they get upgraded to legendary, if you have a upgrade left for a reroll

[kindred prairie]

honestly the run was boring AF cause i just picked lonewolf overconsumption and the exploding card thing plus gauntlet spore build

i was oneshoting everything but thanks for the tipp anyway

appreciate it

[trim swan]

No worries

[trim swan]

I did mine on Nightmare iirc

[kindred prairie]

yeah nightmare is more difficult than reincarnation 1 imo

im a little mad i never got the crab achievemnt even tho i did multiple fire runs just for it

is there a tricvk for it too?

[trim swan]

I ran R1 with Li and hoped I got the modifier where it turned every enemy into a crab

[kindred prairie]

oh yeah i only tried on normal cause its faster havent thought about the crab mod.

[shell patrol]

i meant the flamethrower one you idiot

[shell patrol]

i HATE THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS 😭

[shell patrol]

retainers?

[shell patrol]

if i had no chance of winning i would just throw a smoke grenade and take em all with me

fuck pyro lanterns

[shell patrol]

welcome to Dark Souls™ 4

[dire jolt]

thats just a mushu.....

[shell patrol]

fire dragon.

[dire jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-mulan-mad-gif-14809416

mushu

hes a smol fire dragon lol

[shell patrol]

oh LMAO

anyway hows li with fire dragon

i wanna rru it

[dire jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/right-gif-22262540

[dire jolt]

i dont pay attention tot he names of the mobs lol

i call everything "dudes"

[shell patrol]

well the homing ones are bandit retainers iirc

i fucking HATE EM

homing bullet one shot asshats

[carmine ermine]

"When you enter this area you'll have to face these dudes. Those dudes and the other dudes are dangerous, similar to the other dudes in the other area because the dudes have powerful attacks and stuff."

[shell patrol]

"ok so these dudes suck but these dudes don't, focus on these dudes if you see them"

[carmine ermine]

"Unless that dude has the stuff happening, where that dude becomes much worse than these dudes so you'll have to switch between the dudes depending on which dude is more dude."

"Duuuude."

[shell patrol]

"duuuude what"

[earnest minnow]

Welp, i tested the brick again

And i say it's S tier if ya know what to do with it

[shell patrol]

what if

deadlt counter bloody ammo brick

oh yeah also

@dire jolt yknow that "+0.2 projectiles for each shot until reload" justice inscription? what if i stack it infinitely with bloody ammo and get a grenade machine gun

or adv depot could work for that matter

dunno

or hell, extended mag spiritual link could work aswell

or adv depot

fuck knows

[carmine ermine]

Bloody Ammo wouldn't work unless you're completely out of reserve ammo.

Brick auto refills the magazine. Bloody Ammo only self-damages when the magazine is empty.

[shell patrol]

... oh i see

thats annoyin

@carmine ermine what about the infinite projectiles idea?

[carmine ermine]

+0.2 Projectiles per kill caps at +2 projectiles.

Infinite magazine makes it great regardless, but it'll never be what you're after.

[shell patrol]

oh its per kill? right

also sad

well

hm

what would be the max amount of projectiles possible assuming all inscriptions for it

and Multiple modifier

5ish?

[carmine ermine]

20% chance for an extra projectile (+0.2), +0.2 per kill (+2), +1 Projectile, +100% Consumption (+1), +1 projectile when hitting 3 enemies in the same shot (+1), Justice's exclusive inscription that either adds +2 projectiles or triples projectiles (+?), the double projectiles on next shot after hitting 2 enemies (+?), and Multiple enhancement at max power (+0.3)

Total: ???? Some things are unconfirmed.

If we assume everything is additive bonuses, then it's 8.5 projectiles.

[shell patrol]

if we assume it triples then...

[carmine ermine]

If we assume the unknown ones are multiplicative, then it's 33 projectiles.

[stiff comet]

if i gemini 2 guns that share an element but they are both the same elemt do their effect chances just add together?

[carmine ermine]

Neither.

They gain the elemental advantages and the elemental effect with its chance of the other weapon.

[stiff comet]

so 2 of the same element do nothing?

also does that mean a aura of venum and pupil will have like 10 40% chances in 1 shot?

[carmine ermine]

So if you have a Prism (+50% vs Armor, 30% Decay) and a Crimson Firescale (+50% vs HP, 12% burning), both weapons get +50% vs HP and Armor, 30% Decay and 12% Burning.

[stiff comet]

if your shooting the pupil

oh it gets the bonus damages as welllll

[carmine ermine]

If using 2 of the same element, the 2 elemental effects apply seperately.

[stiff comet]

so the % chance is just for the weapon your using. the offhand % chance is meaningless right?

[carmine ermine]

So a Scorching Rounds (25% Burning) and a Fire Tower (50% Burning) will both have a 25% chance to inflict Burning and 50% chance to inflict another Burning.

[carmine ermine]

Re-read what I said and try again.

[stiff comet]

yeah... so does that mean you can use a shotgun with a flame tower would give rediculously high chance to burn with the shotgun?

[carmine ermine]

Yes.

[stiff comet]

alright thanks. got painkiller on fox and was wondering if i could just get 2 fire weapons to always apply fire

[shell patrol]

i assume its a bit lower than that but thats a fucking stupid amount, now imagine that with Tao RoF

multi grenade machine gun fo real

[shell patrol]

does each projectile apply damage cap separately? if so, that is, a total of, 4,917 billion damage lmao

• elemental stuff

[carmine ermine]

Yes, each projectile triggers its own hit, separate from other hits.

[shell patrol]

wait

then...

illusion is the highest dps weapon in the whole damn game

[carmine ermine]

It also can't receive projectile inscriptions besides its exclusive, and has a relatively low RoF compared to other weapons.

It's certainly up there in terms of hits per second, but a high quality Angelic Aura or Scalpel will still beat it.

[shell patrol]

really? wait, what would be the max projectiles of an AA or Scalpel

[carmine ermine]

Probably around 5 per shot. Technically 10 for Scalpel, but with half the RoF.

[shell patrol]

i dont think so actually...

it can only do +.3(maybe, with Multiple) +.2 (every 5th shot) +1 (+100% consumption)

2.5 total

unless im missing soemthing

[carmine ermine]

+0.2 Proj per kill.

[shell patrol]

it can have that?

[carmine ermine]

Yes.

[shell patrol]

well, that's 4.5

[shell patrol]

hmm can injectors have it then

[carmine ermine]

Injectors are completely screwed.

[shell patrol]

aw, no proj boosts i assume?

[carmine ermine]

Projectile bonuses don't work on them at all.

Except maybe Fire Dragon.

[shell patrol]

yeah, fire dragon

i wanna know about it

my 2nd fav weapon

@carmine ermine illusion can have 14 projectiles and 4.5rps, AA can have 4.5 with 24rps... okay i see now

[wise citrus]

is this game ever gonna get crossplay

[carmine ermine]

Very highly doubt it.

[floral remnant]

Yeah , I am gonna keep going at it until I learn what works and what doesnt tbh ^^

Ops forgot to reply topt hat persom

XD

[shell patrol]

not until developers get back control of console updates..

[carmine ermine]

That's the first step.

Next is updating the console ports to be equal to Steam.

Then finally, they'd have to construct a framework where crossplay can work on.

[shell patrol]

crossplay MIGHT come along though

it does seem like a good feature in this game

[carmine ermine]

Each step is a massive effort. They haven't yet achieved the first step.

[shell patrol]

oh yeah thats fair. i dont think getting it up to date would be THAT bad though, as they already have a base and yknow, nowadays code works accross almost all platforms :D

and i assume they used an engine(?)

[trim swan]

505 Games has been similar with Terraria before console got directly pc version

[tulip steppe]

Our initial plan is to rotate seasons every 3-4 months. Each new season will introduce fresh gameplay and rewards.

@carmine ermine what you thinking about this?

Weapon skill of [Fire Tower] was adjusted as explosive DMG, and could have bonus via ascension [Explosion Enhancement] of [Ao Bai]

its worded like this is how it was and not how it will be

[carmine ermine]

Pretty sure it means that's now how it is.

So Fire Tower's weapon skill now counts as an explosion.

Not that it really means much, besides benefiting from skill damage.

Ao Bai certainly isn't going to use it, especially since he can't Dual-Wield it and One Dog Army got removed.

And Combat Elite, his blessing designed for explosive weapons, exclusively works during Dual-Wield.

[tulip steppe]

the new explo gemini

(Gemini) The Explosion AoE of the current weapon scales proportionally with remaining ammo in the magazine (0.8m AoE minimum). Additional explosion count is equal to the other weapon's AoE, divided by the AoE of the current weapon, rounded down.

[carmine ermine]

That use is also debatable, but maybe the gemini is strong enough to justify using the weapon skill beyond emergency tactics.

Especially with the effect that scales proportionally with remaining ammo in the magazine, since Fire Tower is always 100% filled.

[tulip steppe]

im just wondering how much AoE a Shark would have (as a example)

[carmine ermine]

Better hope it benefits from a fuller magazine rather than an empty one, and also is percent-based and not number-based.

[tulip steppe]

ye

but would 100% be double size?

down to min of 0.8m

also the second part for like a glimmering

[carmine ermine]

I have absolutely no idea.

[tulip steppe]

oh god a Crimson Fire scale withe a Tigercannon

[carmine ermine]

It count increase or decrease AoE. The effect could be stronger at fuller or emptier magazine. It could be percent-based or number-based.

[tulip steppe]

should we ask? i can’t test for another 6 hours

[carmine ermine]

Someone would have to go about testing it just to see how it functions, let alone how it works on certain weapons.

[carmine ermine]

You can if you want to.

[tulip steppe]

sounds like +2m tiger cannon and tbe -20% AoE are interesting now

which weapons have the smallest AoE’s

but the question is also if their AoE would scale up so much that they’d not get that many multi explosions

[carmine ermine]

Dragon Breath has a 2m AoE.

Not sure if this is still accurate, but Thunder Storm has a 3m AoE.

[raw merlin]

I wonder what's the largest explosion AOE you can achieve in this game

[carmine ermine]

Depends on how the new gemini works.

If it increases the AoE further.

Then if it scales based on magazine capacity or not.

[raw merlin]

I'm picturing a really fast reloading Tiger Cannon rapidly launching rockets with a radius of half an arena, trapping enemies in permastun

[carmine ermine]

You can't permastun with Tiger Cannon.

The staggering effect has a cooldown of 5 seconds per enemy.

[cold mortar]

Did they mean to make this events abilities one shot everything lol

Im using the dual wield guy and for the entire duration of dual wield the lightning bolts come down on each shot and 1 shot everything xdD

[carmine ermine]

They probably did.

It's not hard to achieve, and they like making it even easier to do so.

[cold mortar]

I mean

I did it from level start lol

I hit gunfire and a single shot from any gun oneshots anything

[edgy lodge]

Does anyone know if extended mag spirit link would have any influence?

Probably not or it would be dumb lol

Time to destroy everything in the room

[carmine ermine]

Sounds about right.

[cold mortar]

Thing is there's nothing in the game that says this damage is happening

Or supposed to happen at all

Wait no

This says it

But i dont think its working properly

Its enhancing the primary skill, but it never goes away, it works for the entire 2 minutes of gunfire

[carmine ermine]

Wouldn't be surprised if that's intentional. Probably isn't, but can't say for certain.

[shell patrol]

it has no reason not to >:)

[storm vector]

is this a fortnite battle pass

[edgy lodge]

well if it does, that will be real interesting-

[shell patrol]

is the update not out yet?

[quaint hornet]

now it is

cool looking illusion

[shell patrol]

fire tower gon be silly too i think

wait what about glimmering

[carmine ermine]

Decided to load up the game a little to check on the various stuff without playing a run, and... wow...

I don't know who decided on this, but you literally can't start a Nightmare/Reincarnation run without picking an Arcane Ascension, buffing you for the entire run whether you want it or not.

Unless there's an opt out somewhere...?

[dire jolt]

its in smol text on the top right. :v

im jk

lol like those super smol text disclaimers that no one ever reads

[trim swan]

I want to play but I have a written exam around 7 am

Does this mean we're getting battle passes?

Has Gunfire officially become a live service?

[carmine ermine]

I couldn't find an opt out.

Congrats, devs. You have decided to sink your buffs into Nightmare, the hardest difficulty in the game, and unlike blessings, enhanced items and bizarre dreams, you cannot just avoid it. 👏

[shell patrol]

ioa

[shell obsidian]

I wasn't aware you couldn't opt out until now

That seems really dumb

Wait, it's on nightmare as well??

It seems like a reincarnation buff because of how powerful it is

[spice forum]

I already used our status to let devs know to rethink this

[shell obsidian]

Yeah I plan on using the buff, but it should ALLOW opting out

[spice forum]

Opt out of this should be a thing as people dont want to play with this changing mode all the time

[carmine ermine]

And to think some guy on Steam also wanted this to appear on Normal and Elite as well.

Could you imagine how forced in to making the game piss-easy you'd be?

It would be like playing Nona, but as everyone.

[shell obsidian]

Why would you need god powers on the mode where enemies AI is already slowed down intentionally to make it hard to die from them?

[carmine ermine]

Did you recently see that Lightskin Sovereign guy?

[shell obsidian]

Who?

[carmine ermine]

This guy. #1145862164951879750 message

[storm haven]

Tbf gbf is hard to start with, if I had to verbalise my thoughts when I started it would be longer than what bro wrote

Overcoming it slowly is fun tho

I’m surprised they put the new thing in nightmare

Thought that difficulty was on purpose made super hard before a player can reach rein

[shell obsidian]

Not designed for solo play? I usually play solo since friends aren't always available

I would rather the god-scroll buff be exclusive to reincarnation

[carmine ermine]

Reason why I pointed that fellow out is because some people actually do require god powers

[shell obsidian]

I think adding it into nightmare was a bit much

[spice forum]

Thats not the isdue

no opt out is that

[shell obsidian]

Yeah, that too. Why force a super buff?

[spice forum]

Locking everything content wise behind reincarnation is not good either

[carmine ermine]

And even if it's not forced, for many players just playing there is literally no reason not to use it.

It's practically a straight buff. Par for the course, but come on.

[shell obsidian]

There should be challenges for playing without the scroll buff (if that option was even given)

Like the no blessing achievement

[carmine ermine]

Or better. If you want the challenges and cool rewards, put yourself at risk and have some downsides to using it.

[shell obsidian]

I'd rather not have downsides to it, just challenges for playing without it instead

[carmine ermine]

It's like how Daily Challenges stuff a bunch of challenge events and other extra trouble into it. Or Spiritual Assault disables most of your talents.

[spice forum]

It should have buffed the enemies in some ways

[carmine ermine]

If you get a bonus and quests for rewards, it should be harder than just playing normally for no rewards.

[shell obsidian]

If it buffs the enemies there would be reason for not wanting to take it

But if allies take it in multi player it's kinda got the same situation as why I disable that one modifier in multi player

[carmine ermine]

At least stuff like Mysterious Jokul and Interdependent Fortunes tries to have good and bad compensations.

[shell obsidian]

My friends always ignore the down sides

It should be a modifier option

Something we can enable/disable

[carmine ermine]

This is just Spiritual Link, but with extra rewards for saying you used it.

Like congrats, you got a cool weapon skin that lets everyone know you played the game when it was easy. You must feel very proud. 🤦

[shell patrol]

Jokul, funnily enough, actually succeeds

[carmine ermine]

It succeeds sometimes.

The other times you're soaking up extra weapons, legendary scrolls, ascensions and elite kill stacks.

[shell patrol]

fair nuff

but it does make elites fuckin hellish until you get your build figured out

[shell obsidian]

I activate jokul FOR the elite spawns / goblets

Is there a positive other than that?

[storm haven]

Fr having 5 lightning powerfuls on endless

[shell patrol]

one more refresh in phantom peddler and peddler

[storm haven]

More refresh

[shell obsidian]

Oh, I was wondering why I had an extra refresh

[storm haven]

And jokul blessing to sub out earlier ones

[shell patrol]

it also 2x to 6x elite health

truly peak

[storm haven]

If you want to sub out

[carmine ermine]

You also get peddler/phantom peddler refreshes, and a 4th choice for spiritual blessings.

[shell patrol]

yeah its free Royal Guard

[shell patrol]

oh yeah that

the blessing swap out

[storm haven]

More weps from elites to recycle for extravagant consumption

[shell patrol]

its not like i can just quit and continue the run till i get the blessings i want

[carmine ermine]

Well you can't in multiplayer.

[shell patrol]

fair nuff

in multiplayer you have the benefit of being allowed to repeatedly die though

[shell patrol]

recycling yum yum

[storm haven]

Waiter waiter more weps for my stacks please!

[carmine ermine]

My point still stands, you might want the 4th blessing choice.

You also might want the 4th blessing choice if you choose not to abuse an unintended mechanic.

[nimble pendant]

Just coming to say, damn the skin grind is low-key hard

[storm haven]

What’s the requirements?

Can’t log on for now

[nimble pendant]

Like, the multiplayer quest (hat I can't do since I have no friends) and the kill boss without getting hit is hard 😥

[nimble pendant]

40 quests

[storm haven]

Oh shit it’s multiplayer

[nimble pendant]

You have a total of 50

[storm haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[nimble pendant]

4-5 yeah

[storm haven]

It’s over I’m a lone wolf

[nimble pendant]

Same

You can still get every items without completing the multiplayer quest

But, it's hard 😔

Actually need to read before playing

[storm haven]

Damn, if you were Asia I’d offer to duo up

[long sparrow]

Is it because im new i feel like the orb upgrade to cat is bad?

[storm haven]

As in more charges to the primary skill?

[carmine ermine]

Nah. The orb upgrades are generally a bit worse than elemental or grenade stuff.

Orb only becomes super great on higher difficulties with certain overpowered extras.

[long sparrow]

Ohh ok, im only at nightmare

[shell patrol]

oh yeah btw

does freeze effect shorten in endless?

[shell patrol]

hm?

it seemed pretty weak to me

[carmine ermine]

I said super great. I didn't say OP.

So in comparison, it's pathetic.

[shell patrol]

lol

[shell patrol]

@carmine ermine cause it seems to freeze for only a fraction of a second...

[carmine ermine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't play endless.

[shell patrol]

ah

[trim swan]

I wonder if this will be allowed in speedruns

[carmine ermine]

It's a forced advantage. If it's not allowed, literally no speedruns on Nightmare/Reincarnation will be allowed until things get changed.

[trim swan]

True

It's just a seasonal thing but I get the feeling we'll have more stuff like this

[shell patrol]

but this would affect speedruns fundamentally i think

[trim swan]

100% it will

[trim swan]

Just a me thing and I'm sure the mods will figure it out but let's say someone beats a wr because of this forced advantage, and since it's a seasonal thing then it'll go away

Meaning the other players running that category won't have the same advantage

[edgy lodge]

I'd imagine you'd be able to do it with Nona if it's reviving because Iron Wing

[tulip steppe]

https://i.imgur.com/3Ep8ys1.png

uh?

https://i.imgur.com/S8KHZ78.png

[trim swan]

Tf does that mean

Only one I can think of is Xiao but that's a monocule

[tulip steppe]

play with a friend that uses glasses

Sui

[trim swan]

These tasks are weird

And I'm already at level 20

[spice forum]

https://discord.com/channels/656699542967812106/1195371480326881360

[random magnet]

Uh oh, FOMO season pass type shit in a single player game incoming

Right into the dumpster

[quaint hornet]

qian sui has dive googles, think those can count, nona has soldering glasses on her head

those two are wearing some sort of glasses, even if qian sui are not technically glasses

[trim swan]

They might count

[shell patrol]

ill be happy to provide a nona

[storm haven]

the new explosion gemini is crazy

thunder storm just clears

[shell patrol]

thunda stoming 💪

[shell patrol]

what weapon do you have on 2nd?

[storm haven]

scorching rounds

saw its explosion range was 0.8

thunder storm needs the spiritual link that +100 its mag

so that it retains an explosion range of 3

[shell patrol]

and whats the total aoe?

[storm haven]

heres what i got so far

took awhile to think which weps to pick tbh

[shell patrol]

hmm whats the explosion radius of a fire tower

[storm haven]

didnt pick it up to trial it 😭

i forgor

[shell patrol]

can you check

[storm haven]

i logged off mb

[shell patrol]

ill check myself

[storm haven]

You tried the new Gemini yet? How’s it

[tulip steppe]

your pic looks like Thunderstorm is bugged

[shell patrol]

not yet, too tired lol

[raw merlin]

tried the new gemini on Justice and Painkiller Prince

chemical warfare

[shell patrol]

now make it the +100% elemental effect chance justice

[raw merlin]

it was

60% elemental effect chance in total

[shell patrol]

too real

[fickle minnow]

"weapon skill assembly system" in pach notes?

[tulip steppe]

weapon skin assembly system

[fickle minnow]

oh.
as you can see, i am highly proficient in reading text

[mellow bear]

any explainers for the new gemini

[stiff comet]

another update making the game easier? UUUGGGGG

[still ravine]

what is the "Punching Intent" mentioned in Overwhelming Abyss?

[carmine ermine]

Fist Sensation.

[stiff comet]

WOW this game actualyl fucken sucks

im sorry to be so livid about it but jesus this game is ruined if you cant say no to the new scorll BS

polease tell me i can disable it

[tulip steppe]

nope

[stiff comet]

im 1 shotting things act 1 R9 with thorny caracrap from across the room

this it the worst update i could ever imagine

[carmine ermine]

Par for the course.

Actually no, thinking about it the par for the course is "make the game easier, but people can avoid it if they want."

[mellow bear]

is this something u can enable or disable

[carmine ermine]

This is better than par. The game is easier whether you want it to be or not.

[carmine ermine]

Nope.

[stiff comet]

me and my GF been playing this game duo for years. if we afk the entire game on the hardest difficulty idk if we can even bother to play anymore

[mellow bear]

most of this game isnt in the same boat as U and ur gf and genuinely struggle

[carmine ermine]

Most players who genuinely struggle are either on the first few difficulties which is completely unaffected by this, or are playing a Reincarnation level beyond their capabilities.

Many people often expect the high difficulties to be lowered to their standards, instead of doing the obvious thing of lowering the difficulty they play on to something comfortable.

[stiff comet]

there is no reason to not make a hard mode optional.

besides appealing to people with low self esteem who want to beat the game on the hardest difficulty to make themselves feel good......

im still on my first run now, will give final thoughts when its over but act 1 may as well not exist as its played itself so far

[carmine ermine]

And that's saying something given it's the hardest part of the run.

[stiff comet]

so is that it? sad times in the kingdom? we just cross our fingers and hope it goes away?

[carmine ermine]

If enough people complain about it being forced, maybe it'll get an enable/disable toggle.

But that's a nerf, even if completely optional. Devs hate nerfs.

[nova loom]

I hope this new update didnt like stop my run

[trim swan]

I'm almost at level 40

Looks like you level up every time you complete a quest

Which I'm a fan of because other battle passes level you up so slowly

[marble trail]

is there an end to this

[nova loom]

boundless dream?

no

im on 252 rn

[stiff comet]

is thunder storm an explosive?

nvm i used my eyes and read that it was

[carmine ermine]

Boundless Dream has no end.

Unless you die or quit, but dying is vitually impossible at that point.

[marble trail]

can i play another run

but still have this one

if i wanna continute it

[carmine ermine]

No.

[marble trail]

gg

[stiff comet]

is there a post in any of the chanel by the devs that allow players to emote their opinion? like in the updates channel or something?

gotta give my thumb down emote on their offical post for the patch

i just realized that hawk eye site says -50% weapon damage not -50% total weapon damage

does that mean the down side isnt a big deal when you got 500+% weapon damage? i've always assumed it cut your damage in half

[carmine ermine]

It's -50% total weapon damage.

[stiff comet]

oh ok it is what i thought then. thats funny. i picked it up in act 2 with the intent to lower my damage by 50% on purpose. sadly everything is still dying immediatly

[carmine ermine]

It also doesn't work on skill damage, which is what Thunder Step, Thorny Carapace and most likely Elemental Pulses uses. I assume those are what is killing everyone so easily.

[stiff comet]

they certainly do add to it

[carmine ermine]

Thinking about it, I'm not even sure if there is anything that lowers the damage of skills.

[stiff comet]

spirit bible when you give it the the enemy

-40% skill damage

[carmine ermine]

I meant stuff you hold.

Closest I could think of is Devil's Covenant, Triple Comeback and Deadly Curse screwing with your HP and Shield/Armor, lowering the power of Thorny Carapace.

[stiff comet]

hmm does explosive damage up the damage of combustion?

[carmine ermine]

No.

[stiff comet]

ok going combat elite/ life power dog and everything just dies. was wondering if it was multiplying cause i had fire 2 fire weapons with corrosion everywhere

[nova loom]

We gamin

[floral remnant]

I'm only on the second act and since I got such a good run in the first act when I dash with the new seasonal thunder step everything dies.

Like I only need the gun for the boss thats it 😂

[nova loom]

how much damage is this

1 tril?

[carmine ermine]

Yes.

[nova loom]

Pog

[royal roost]

Hey guys! Any tips for a new player that enjoys Nona? Thanks in advance 😄

[carmine ermine]

Let Iron Wing do everything.

[royal roost]

Any place where i can find some builds? In general, not just for Nona. Also, thanks for answering 😄

[nova loom]

My biggest advice is just play and you can see what your flow is

If you prefer iron wing doing everything, perfer gun buffs. Or perfer just rocket spam brrrrrr

You'll see what really hits as you keep playing

Just don't let deaths or near run ending mistakes get to you

[wide sail]

Fox op

[nova loom]

Li, my belovid

almost 2 tril damage

[wide sail]

I got bored idk how u could play for a tril

[floral remnant]

Thats crazy

[storm haven]

Oh…

[floral remnant]

Not sure if I'm holding enough scrolls.

[carmine ermine]

Too many, doesn't count.

[nova loom]

[cold mortar]

This seasonal shit makes me not want to play

Im waaaaaaaaay too op from the get

[trim swan]

I honestly was the most bored out of my mind when leveling up the pass

This game got way easier than it needed it to be and it's forced

[cold mortar]

Yuuup

Im on reincarn 9

And just breezing through it

lame

[floral remnant]

Yoikes cause I am having a blast with this seasonal stuff. Its helping my friend get back into the game since there is something mroe to do.

[cold mortar]

More to do is good

One shotting everything = not good

With the dog (the dual wield guy)

Pick the lightning ascension

And use your gunfire ability

You'll 1 shot everything with lightning

Because the stacks dont fall off when you shoot

[trim swan]

I love breaking game mechanic but don't add an overpowered thing to a mode people wanted to play to not be overpowered

[cold mortar]

So the entire time you just lightning everything instantly

Its gamebreaking

I like the struggle of the start of roguelikes

Its the whole reason to play them

Start weak, get strong

But why play when you start strong

[floral remnant]

I am playing Kick Bird Man with lighting and if u leap it one shot as well when u get it up there. 😂

Leap BIG BOOM.

[cold mortar]

yeah because it consumes that charge you get from moving

BUT

When you play the dual wield guy

Each shot does that lightning

But it doesnt consume a charge

[floral remnant]

Ao Bai , yeah I never really liked him but I gotta do 4 other characters for the seasonal stuff.

I hope they make the pass bigger in the future.

[carmine ermine]

"We're Sorry For Upsetting You, Here's An Apology" Update
• Arcane Ascensions:
• Thunder Step, Elemental Pulse and Thorny Carapace DMG is doubled.
• Starting from act 2, you're forced to select a second occult scroll. Arcane Jades you find will grant Arcane Ascensions for both of them.

• Qing Yan
• Iron Scud
• Old: -20/-40%/-60% Leap cooldown. Upon using Leap, +30/60/100 Max Armor for 7s. Lv.3: 30% chance to reset the cooldown.
• New: -20/-35%/-50% Leap cooldown. Upon using Leap, +30/60/100 Max Armor for 5s. Lv.3: 30% chance to reset the cooldown.

• Zi Xiao
• Star Protection
• Old: Recover 5/5/7 Shield for every Astroaspect obtained. Lv.2: Also recovers Shield for every Astroaspect consumed. Lv.3: Also starts Shield recovery immediately for every Astroaspect obtained/consumed.
• New: Recover 5/7/10 Shield for every Astroaspect obtained or consumed. Lv.2: Also grants Max Shield equal to recovered amount. Lv.3: Also starts Shield recovery immediately for every Astroaspect obtained/consumed.
• Lucky Day
• Old: +10/15/20% Weapon and Skill DMG for every Normal/Rare/Legendary Astroaspect obtained. Wild Astroaspects grant a random bonus.
• New: +25/50/100% Weapon and Skill DMG for every Normal/Rare/Legendary Astroaspect obtained. Wild Astroaspects grant a random bonus.

[trim swan]

Oh cool Lucky Day isn't useless now?

[floral remnant]

Thats nice

[novel hare]

I have been spamming dash with that new ascension thingy

[carmine ermine]

Did you win using only dashes?

[novel hare]

I can lol

let me try

I have stopwatch, propulsion device, and pretty much every cooldown reducer in the game

and dual edge

so I can't die

I binded the dash to my scrollwheel now

I'm still doing that endless run though so I'll try it later after I'm done

[carmine ermine]

To use emoticons is still holding the Ping key, right?

[storm haven]

now i regret taking the thorny spine thingy

dash spam seems fun

[edgy lodge]

Imma actually make a new run for that lol

Or thorny carapace

[storm haven]

turtle dash spam when

[floral remnant]

Dash spam is hella crazy once u get it all buffed but I wanna see how the elemental one vibes.

😂

[edgy lodge]

The rings are pretty cool

[storm haven]

i tried element first with the cat but didnt notice much with it tbh

effects are cool tho

[edgy lodge]

Yea

[storm haven]

same with the thorns, didnt see much (used cat) but the auto aim thing is useful sometimes to soften some enemies up or proc grenade from far

[floral remnant]

This was my run on R1 , I was messing around with the dash one on endless and no joke I just went from area to area of "leap" BIG BOOM , then spam spam dash lol 😭 I'm gonna try different character on R9 with my friend later.

[strange anchor]

the thorn perk that casts your secondary skill when they land seemed really good

[floral remnant]

I was only doing endless cause i needed Soul essencesssss

[storm haven]

like MCU thor landing lmao

[edgy lodge]

I'm def gonna try thunder step

[floral remnant]

IT WAS LOL

[edgy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[floral remnant]

The bosses I would leap and 3 shot them except gluttonery cause he has those immuntity phasssesss. So i would dash around the area and wait lol

[storm haven]

i think this is the most badass thing i ever hear in gunfire

[edgy lodge]

Thunder step (unenhanced) if it was good:

[floral remnant]

Ngl im gonna miss these when they go-

[edgy lodge]

Yea same lol

[floral remnant]

Also that one run of endless sent my pass from 1 to 38 , my friend is gonna come online so we can finish the rest of them later.

[tulip steppe]

i used thorny on nona rockets and you just get a infinite loop of rockets/thorns procing eachother

[edgy lodge]

I gotta see crown prince and thorny carapace lmao

[floral remnant]

My friend did that build last night

[tulip steppe]

i’ve not really read the othere ones

[floral remnant]

It goes wild

[carmine ermine]

Somehow I doubt they're going to be truly gone.

I'd imagine after enough "feedback", they'd turn Arcane Ascensions into its own Bizarre Dream.

[floral remnant]

GASP

That'll be cool

[edgy lodge]

Element rings are probably the least effective

Of the 3

I've not tried the other 2 but hearing them already makes them feel better
The rings just aren't noticeable

[floral remnant]

I like them cause its nice passive aoe damage and if u are a elemental char already it helps.

[spice forum]

Again :

#1195371480326881360 message

Any Feedback , positive or negative can go there

So if you like to see this mechanic stay as maybe an optional thing down the line :
Let the devs know

[floral remnant]

Oh thank you, appreciate that.

I love it , its a whole tree system expanding on scrolls which is really cool its not just "pick up then enhance them" you get to choose also a route with these combined scrolls that have their own gimmicks .

[nimble pendant]

finally, I can sleep now

[floral remnant]

I could imagine there 100% in the future of one being a gimmick one of using curse scrolls of a "yin and yan" type of thing.

Nice !

2 more levels for me <3

[nimble pendant]

I played with 2 accounts to get the coop quests 💀

[floral remnant]

Lmaoo , ive got my friend but hes at dinner atm so i am kinda just waiting here awkward while playing splatoon 3 inbetween . 😂

[edgy lodge]

Dang it's dinner time over there? 😂

I only just got up and had breakfast

[nimble pendant]

it's 3 am for me

[floral remnant]

yeah , australian here ! :)

[nimble pendant]

😭

[floral remnant]

it's only 7 30pm for me

[edgy lodge]

Oh sweet, I'm an English man

It's 8:33 for me here

[floral remnant]

Dang you been at it all day

[nimble pendant]

I slept all day

my sleep schedules are messed up rn

[edgy lodge]

My day schedule is usually 6am-10pm

[floral remnant]

Tbh I been playing for 10hrs today 😀

Ah , yikes , I used to be like that but I was able to fix mine

I been going to bed at min 1030pm

[nimble pendant]

I use the other strat

don't sleep for one day

[edgy lodge]

I go bed usually 10pn and wake up 6am
I value my sleep kinda lol

[nimble pendant]

and go to sleep the next day at like 8-10 pm

[floral remnant]

Yeah , then reset it and sleep at the time u need to sleep. Thats how i did mine

[nimble pendant]

lmao yeah

[floral remnant]

As you should!

[nimble pendant]

that's the second time I do that

I should maybe stop

[edgy lodge]

Make sure you don't push it lol
Sleeps a super important thing mate

[nimble pendant]

but I got the cool skin

[nimble pendant]

ik

[edgy lodge]

I'm not midnight owl XD

[nimble pendant]

but like, I can't sleep

even when I had descent sleep schedule

but ye

[edgy lodge]

Is it caffeine consumption? Or distractions?

[nimble pendant]

cool skin

[nimble pendant]

mainly college stress

[edgy lodge]

Oh shoot

[nimble pendant]

I procrastinate, and do everything last second

[floral remnant]

Relate hard to that. 🫣

[edgy lodge]

Oh dang
College here is so different here for me

[nimble pendant]

so I can't sleep if there is something that is due or an exam

[edgy lodge]

Your college is our equivalence to university

[nimble pendant]

ya

[edgy lodge]

I didn't go to university 😔

[nimble pendant]

well

idk if that's a good thing or bad thing tbh

[edgy lodge]

College I went for 2 years between 16-18 years old

[edgy lodge]

Nah I'm doing swell dw

[nimble pendant]

nice

[earnest minnow]

Holy frick i predict this stuff

[floral remnant]

Yes , its hella cool :> Give them all a try they are all pretty cool in their own ways

[edgy lodge]

I'm trying thunder step after I get breakfast and before I go out

[nimble pendant]

thorny carapace OP

[earnest minnow]

Holy

I just awake thou

[storm haven]

who did you run with?

[nimble pendant]

it worked well with cat cause I couldn't see anything 💀

but it was r1

I tried with dog on r9 with the spam grenade build

but I feel like it works with everyone, bonus if you have a strong grenade

[floral remnant]

I have wing thats the best grenade

[storm haven]

same here i cant see anything its just green clouds covering my screen 😭

[nimble pendant]

fr

funny explosions though

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-sensei-sensei-wu-elemental-power-gif-15011710505967960889

I am very curious on what characters they are gonna do cause i thought the ones we had thats it and its more focus on bosses and new maps so I am VERY curious what type of characters we are gonna have.

Spoilers: Unlce Bao be the dlc character totally !

[storm haven]

very third scroll in a thunder step run is advanced jogger

[mellow bear]

is the avatar frame for this season bugged? unlocked it but cant equip it

[trim swan]

Did you claim it from the leveling thing

[mellow bear]

oh

thats a stupid mechanic

get rid of tht

[earnest minnow]

Lei luo+Thunder step

More Thunder

[stoic fable]

A buddy just came back to gunfire reborn, and hes now level 1, he was around lvl 140 like me) anyone had this issue?

[earnest minnow]

Save file problem i can guess?

[stoic fable]

but it was steam cloud saved?

[mellow bear]

Just give him ur save

[formal oar]

How many more DLCs developer gonna make?

I need to know if I can afford full version of the game

[spice forum]

How much we dont know and cant say

but there will be more

And DLC only containes additional characters and weapons

everything else is base game updates

Atomic Dog works

Only got Dual Edge and Extravagant at the butt end of the run

Generating thorns with nades is fun

and your health does funny things if you have flesh and bones XD

My health flip flopped between 1k and 4k

[edgy lodge]

Does the thorn secondary ascension actually trigger the atomic bomb then?

[spice forum]

I didnt get that one

[edgy lodge]

Oh right

[spice forum]

That is yet to be tested

[edgy lodge]

Imagine if that actually works

Since it is casting secondary lol

[edgy lodge]

You just have to look at them and you start vomiting a death ray of explosions

That'd be funny haha

[spice forum]

I had the regrow buff on secondary , more spikes and chance to generate on secondary , More dmg per ammo and the HP up per thorn

[edgy lodge]

I'm wanting to try thorny carapace when I get home with Crown Prince

That'd be super fun

[spice forum]

I had a run with Elemental Pulse and Pump action Hell, it was funky

[edgy lodge]

I've played with the rings one and it was pretty cool

[spice forum]

Have yet to try thunder step

[edgy lodge]

Yea I'm needing to try that too

[spice forum]

And Pain Killer start

Best part

[edgy lodge]

Gonna try that but Thorny Carapace

[spice forum]

This was the carry

Its just elemental and Reload

The exclusive was a +20% lucky shot before that

[edgy lodge]

Oh right

Smogbound Zone is very silly as is so imagine Acidominance III with the thorny carapace

[nimble pendant]

How is demonlore still not nerfed???

[spice forum]

Because it falls off down the line

[nimble pendant]

It's a permanent 990% damages in like 75% of games 💀

[nimble pendant]

How?

What's better than 990%

[edgy lodge]

Especially when it comes to endless, there are better options

Angelic Aura or Scalpel

[spice forum]

Because its weapon dmg and not total dmg

[edgy lodge]

Mhm

[spice forum]

And as Teaa point out the other weapons have way higher RoF

[edgy lodge]

Total Damage outbeats it lol

[spice forum]

In Endless the Dmg is the same for all weapons

[edgy lodge]

Pretty much

[spice forum]

it just matter how fast you apply that

[edgy lodge]

You get to a point it's all about how fast you can shoot

[carmine ermine]

1000%, 1200%, 1000%*48...

[nimble pendant]

Aight, guess I didn't reverse engineered the game enough

[edgy lodge]

You don't need to reverse engineer the game to find out lol

[nimble pendant]

Why's rof better? The damage isn't multiplicative?

[edgy lodge]

Because damage caps

[nimble pendant]

Bruh

[edgy lodge]

It comes down to RoF

[nimble pendant]

That's dumb

[edgy lodge]

It is what it is

[nimble pendant]

And rof doesn't cap?

[edgy lodge]

Depends on the weapon

[nimble pendant]

What's the cap for damages though?