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pulsar sparrow
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but often i see some bulds being...meh
like panda has melee and rockte which are stupid strong
and pistol being...nice

cat having a strong ass grenade but stun spamming feels meh

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trees not builds

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i tend to go for 1 tree most of the time

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how would u rate turtle slam build vs dash spam vs punch builds?

thorny parcel
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And those "meh" builds are the result of developers not having balance as a focus.

pulsar sparrow
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it would feel weird if they hardnerfed a tree tho

thorny parcel
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You don't even want to use them all that much because they suck in comparison.

pulsar sparrow
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i wouldnt wanna use any other than card build for owl :o

thorny parcel
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Exactly.

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That's 2/3rds of the hero you willingly avoid because cards are just so much better, because poor balance.

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Not good.

pulsar sparrow
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yep

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but
turlte

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:c

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what best

thorny parcel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar sparrow
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could only do a good punchy and slammy
didnt tried a dashy

thorny parcel
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I don't play Turtle much, and I don't play the game much nowadays because of constant player buffs.

pulsar sparrow
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dunno what i should feel about the essence
u need it for skills etc
but later on u got soo much

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also

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spiritual assault
played it 3-4 times only

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never touched it again

pulsar sparrow
silver plaza
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Anyone PlayStation NA wanna run reincarnation? I just unlocked R1

hollow iron
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BRO CAN THE DEVS PLEASE FIX THE FACEBOOK PROBLEM WTF?

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I paid fucking money for the characters I'ma need that money back if y'all can't fix the issue

hidden swan
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Where did the announcement tab go?

teal wave
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Which one

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#game-announcements #discord-announcements

hidden swan
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Oh ok i see it now idk why its was acting like that?

winged vine
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User error 😛

young goblet
proud needle
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Sharknado the beginning

fervent sinew
bronze willow
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yis, there's pinned message for that link on #1055550986292297838

bronze willow
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need to pin that link more on other channels

crisp anvil
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can i end the gunzerker ability early?

bronze willow
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gunzerker?

crisp anvil
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from ao bai

bronze willow
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the dualies primary?

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yes you can

crisp anvil
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how?

bronze willow
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rebind this to your desired button

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you can stop like bow charging, ao bai primary, pupil charge or whatever weapon you could hold before shooting

crisp anvil
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btw, what are some good skills for nona?

bronze willow
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what your desired build revolving around
might wanna wait other nona player to answer for you

crisp anvil
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guess iron wing

crisp anvil
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thank

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even tho i don't even have most of the stuff unlocked

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i recently just unlocked nightmare difficulty

languid finch
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Its not clicking if this is a positive or negative lol

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I can read it both ways

lime garnet
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good

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enemies deal less damage and take more

bronze willow
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So Misfortune Aura actually a good spiritual link?

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I thought it was -25% dmg dealt to enemy and +25% dmg taken from enemy lol

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had quite a debate with group regarding Misfortune Aura, I suppose im the wrong one

lime garnet
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source: it's reincarnation, it will not be a nerf

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ever

bronze willow
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some good info anyway

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more reason for me to hoard cursed scrolls

spring socket
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Anyone have dmg calculations for how elemental orbs get their dmg?

thorny parcel
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Based on the weapon's base damage stat and skill damage bonuses.

thick notch
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Sup'.

bronze willow
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soup

thick notch
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soupy.

tawdry stream
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Why i cant join pc chat?

bronze willow
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like, what chat?
in-game? here?

gusty mountain
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@tawdry stream chat is full due to it being a thread.

proud needle
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Steam 2

celest tundra
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The Steamening

proud needle
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I meant that literally

harsh wagon
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The steamed hams

crisp anvil
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umm... what?

thorny parcel
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Can't drop scrolls, but red chests can have multiple options picked.

proud needle
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A scroll people just pick up , forget and then keep reporting a "bug that they can just keep taking red chest options"

thorny parcel
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Or a "bug that they can't drop scrolls for no reason and got killed by Flesh and Bones + Paranormality".

bronze willow
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best combination scroll

spring socket
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Dog keeps the share crit x when dual weapons right?

bronze crater
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i think he does

thorny parcel
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Why wouldn't he? You're still holding 2 weapons with the gemini active.

spring socket
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Okay so if both have +3 crit x when reload then both weapons would get +3

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Plus the shareda amount

proud fable
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I made it through the rest of act 3 no hit but I died in act 4

spring socket
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So is it 4 or 6 secondsPepega

thorny parcel
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Should pop that in #1060159100006178816 because that's a translation error.

quartz current
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I'm glad Nimble Finger is in the ascension fusion pool so I can enjoy the fun it brings without playing Nona

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Should probably try her at some point tho.

thorny parcel
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I still haven't tried her.

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Most I've done is the starting room to check how Iron Wing switches modes and what the Redeployment skill icon looks like.

celest tundra
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And then Altanna never touched red pandas ever again.
Sad 😢

proven sage
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im waiting for some wacky skill related ascensions gets added to the pool

spring socket
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Maybe its just be but when i use the sunder with elemental orb on crit it spawns more than just one orb

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Spawns like 3-5

silent osprey
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assuming the elemental balls inscript is calculated per projectile, that would make sense considering sunder has more than 1 projectile.

spring socket
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@autumn owl KEKW

restive willow
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#1060159100006178816 여기?

autumn owl
turbid veldt
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is there a way to kick people in game?

spring socket
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Yes @turbid veldt

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Let them die then never buy them back

turbid veldt
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he's afking at the start and we cant do anything about it :/

latent kestrel
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Is gunfire reborn good on ps5

bronze willow
spring socket
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^

turbid veldt
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yea but my teammate wanna flex on their dmg and killing everything zZ

spring socket
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So something ive noticed which makes no sense is how aoi bo dual welding works with gemnis. It seems like only his right hand is the priority for geminis.
Such example is dual welding 2 launchers with share mag while having the extra +100, in theory u should have 200 since both have 100 while dual welding.

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Idk why the coding is like this when in every other shooter game that does dual Welding does the opposite of gunfire (mainly talking about borderlands and battleborn)

thorny parcel
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Certain bonuses only apply to the main hand.

The +100 magazine capacity is one of them, I'm fairly sure. Nothing to do with geminis.

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(Also do you really want to compare to Gunzerking in Borderlands? That has so many ways to break the game purely because of using 2 guns that share bonuses with each other alone, let alone what you can do with skill points.)

quartz current
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To my knowledge Geminis work as they should in DW. The +100 Spiritual Link seems to be added after the Gemini's calculation and is a temporary buff so the game doesn't consider it to count for that Gemini. It just adds the bonus on top.

thorny parcel
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(Actually thinking about it, Borderlands Gunzerking would fit right in with current day Gunfire Reborn's balance. This is not a good thing.)

quartz current
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Guess it's similar to how the element conversion Links don't apply to both weapons, just the main hand.

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Unless you gemini that.

spring socket
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@quartz current if elemental share works then crit x should also work with +3 crit when reload

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U should be able to reload ur off hand weapons get the increased crit for ur off hand but then the gemini shares the extra to ur main hand

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@thorny parcel its applied to both also that means they specifically coded plus bullets on launchers to be an additive after affect but every other spiritual link is usually a before hand calculation?

thorny parcel
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Well you've got the mag share gemini, of course it's applied to both.

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But only the main hand actually receives the bonus, the offhand gets it shared due to the gemini.

neon pawn
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Yo, did I miss something in an update? Worm boss in act 2 now moves its beam fast and you can't dodge it anymore?

silent osprey
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R9 changes mob behaviour. you can check it in-game in the lobby after selecting R9 as the difficulty.

proud fable
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Just imploy usain bolt strats

hidden swan
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My best advice is dash through it in order to receive minimum damage

thorny parcel
hidden swan
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I feel like this fall is gonna be stacked. Dredge update,dreadhunters the roboquest 1.0 update, a potential gunfire update.

crisp anvil
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bing chillin

celest tundra
# crisp anvil bing chillin

John Cena new Act 5 boss.
He attacks you with a cone of bing chilling, which apply constant unavoidable corrosive effect on the heroes, cause the bing chilling has food poisoning.

spring socket
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Bing chilling

bronze willow
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Since R9 update drop, item names just brokey with untranslated stuff xD
i suppose boss name also brokey

proud fable
brisk cove
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wǒ hěn xǐhuān BING CHILLING 🥶🍦

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dànshì sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 bǐ BING CHILLING 🥶🍦

spring socket
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Has anyonr actually got banned from matchmaking? Like they ban u for modding in soul essence KEKW

bronze willow
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how do u even modding soul essence

spring socket
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Same way 150k other people do YEP

proud fable
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Also, I'm pretty sure its like, bin qilin or sum idk

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idk I haven't learned how to say ice cream in mandarin yet

bronze willow
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considering how easy to get soul essence, how lazy are you to mod it out xD

mellow musk
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Cryorus is the type of guy to eat the buttons off of remotes.

proud needle
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How about a 1 week timeout

proud fable
proud needle
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Go throw insults and staff and get slapped
Fuck around and find out

proud fable
proud needle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

proud fable
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They just came to the gfr server to say you eat remote buttons?

proud needle
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Have been on this server since start of the year

proud fable
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They probably meant it as a joke or whatever, but wrong channel and it was unprovoked

lime garnet
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lol wtf

proud fable
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get roasted

lime garnet
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D:

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banned

proud needle
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Fuck around and find out, I say.
Be nice and all cool

proud fable
proud needle
proud fable
proud needle
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bad scarecrow

proud fable
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I'm sorry 😭

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admin abuse

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hes threatening me

proud fable
proud needle
proud fable
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uhh

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yes that makes total sense

proud needle
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( totally not trying to justify some randoms spelling mistake)

proud fable
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Kind soul right here

alpine brook
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Cant wait next update D;

languid gulch
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what characters and builds are good/fun to try.. also what weapons are generally good?

spring socket
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@languid gulch nona same boat with sunder

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Or scorching round

bronze willow
fading bramble
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anyone able to summarise how the owl char works, the descriptions are pretty chinglish

left cloud
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you use secondary to summon cards and cards give you blue/purple/yellow/red icons benath your hud. if you make them all same they gain buff. Your cards also homing towards anyone you aim and dealing dmg. Main dmg often comes from cards and curse scrolls actually boosts your chance of getting better scrolls

You can reroll scrolls on your backpack and you get reroll chance when you get goblet.

you could understand him better as you try to play as him more and more he is not that complicated

winged vine
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Man we haven't had an update in aaaages, has anyone heard what/if their plan is for the rest of this year?

thorny parcel
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Theoretically their next step is adding what they didn't add in the previous update.

proud fable
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new weapons!!!

winged vine
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I hope that happens. There's normally an update, patch, or announcement toward the end of each month but nothing for about 8 weeks.

gusty mountain
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There was a patch last month.

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An emergency patch.

left cloud
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I'm curious if the place we fight against gluttony will be available

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they place chaos realm looks sick

near hemlock
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Playing on console and I have the skill tree maxed out. I have reincarnation mode unlocked but can never get passed act 2. I don't want to spend all my souls during a run just to immediately lose it anyway. Is there any way to grind soul essence so I can have a lot to spend on reincarnation

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It just seems I can't do any more in game to improve, so Im just forever stuck on reincarnation

soft oasis
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Does anyone know when the console version will have the dlc

gusty mountain
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when 505 games get their act together

thorny parcel
hidden swan
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Yeah they have been a bit quiet lately

thorny parcel
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Nah, despite that.

serene kernel
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hello, we can cross steam / game pass ???

thorny parcel
serene kernel
thorny parcel
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Steam and Gamepass are too different.

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Doesn't work.

serene kernel
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other game work like dbd. (and we all know this game is bullshit)

thorny parcel
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They're completely different versions. That alone stops it working.

serene kernel
thorny parcel
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And before you say it, the devs working on Gamepass aren't updating it nearly as fast as the devs working on Steam.

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So they'll pretty much never be the same version anyway.

serene kernel
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ok

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is sad

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because a lot of people including my friend. we don't have a lot of money so play through game pass. but I want to play Vace him but having made good progress I'm annoyed to start again (sorry if it's written badly. everything is typed by the Google translation post)

lavish lily
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Despite this, I believe that there will be updates this month. At the very least, they update the game much more frequently than many developers

gusty mountain
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tbh there was an update to mobile just last month.

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In fact most of the recent updates were to mobile.

proud needle
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Updates are done but slowly

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Keep in mind that not short ago the devs were also on a 2 week break

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and it is not that lonh ago we got Gluttony in main game and R9 additions

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Also

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this month is packed with many bigger releases

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pushing an update now wouldnt get much attention as it is spread thin across games

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Even like similar game like Roboquest going full release .
Pushing an update while they go 1.0 finally would be foolish

indigo sage
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perfectly balanced, as all things should be

hidden swan
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I didn’t know they were on a two week break

proud needle
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Because we know it and it wasnt said. They really dont need to communicate every single bit of their work life

hidden swan
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My bad I just joined this discord not too long ago

near needle
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Hey question. What's the current R9 meta builds for each character? I tend to mostly play cat, dog, bird, monkey, and fox. I've also tried to play rabbit a few times but can never seem to get her to do any real damage

proud needle
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Prince : Lone Wolf Overconsumption and pick Pain Killer as first blessing

ruby oasis
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Overconsumption on any character is a guaranteed win, if you have hands and fingers

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Pain killer too

serene kernel
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Hello we can reset talent three ?

lavish lily
serene kernel
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AHH

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okk thx !

proud needle
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The level you see is just the amount of talent tree points spent, not the other way

upper terrace
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I've used it a few times on tao, mostly because there wasnt anything better i was offered

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pumping its rof into the moon with functionally infinte clip it does alright

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also has some funky synergies with owl boio

spring socket
upper terrace
stuck goblet
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ST25N8KGFYJF3D R1

kindred mauveBOT
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To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

bronze willow
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Talking about injector, is there a way to consistently crit using Radioactive glove or it just wanna have freewill of its own.

quartz current
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"Talking about [weapon]"
Proceeds to not talk about that weapon lol

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Regardless nah radioactive glove is weird with crits without something to force them.

thorny parcel
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Deadly Counter.

bronze willow
thorny parcel
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Using the weapon skill with Rad Glove makes it act like a separate beam, ruining stuff like Wait for Good.

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So you need something that provides crits continuously, like other weapons need.

Hence, Deadly Counter.

bronze willow
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Was thinking to try Tiger Lighting Messenger with Rad glove, but I suppose it's way too inconsistent

thorny parcel
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Lightning Messenger requires weak spot hits.

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If I'm not mistaken.

bronze willow
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Yup

thorny parcel
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Which nothing will help with.

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Only the weapon itself and your aim can achieve that.

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And given the weapon is Radioactive Gauntlet which sucks at hitting weak spots, it's not gonna work out very well.

bronze willow
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hence reason why I asked about rad glove earlier
was thought there's a way to crit it more consistently
been wiggle aim with it a lot cuz sometimes I do hear crit hitting noise

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it is what it is, at least solved for me

indigo sage
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just a wee bit o damage

spring socket
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@thorny parcel it seems like they still havent fixed mortars crit chance, im still getting 80-90% crit chance

proud needle
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You know that there is no crit chance and explosives cant crit normally at all , right?

spring socket
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Obviously using counter violence

proud needle
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You may think obvious
For everytime someone says critchance and/or mistakes lucky shot for the weak spot hits I could easily get a RTX 4090 OC

bronze willow
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Considering there's no explanation regarding what lucky shot anywhere unless you wiki reading gaming, that concern about crit mistaken as lucky shot multiplier are definitely a common mistake
took me a while to realize that until i start opening wiki

proud needle
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Actually there are a few loading screens explaining that.
But there is little ingame read up that is true ( and we made propositions for changes already long long times ago)

bronze willow
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considering the amount of people doesnt catch it is already showing it aint effective lol
but having one someday would be nice
also game load pretty fast and despite fullscreen-ing, alt tabbing is not annoying. I guess game being lightweight on your pc/laptop making not everyone want/able to read that loading screen tips

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i wouldn't really nitpick them anyway, but its annoying to realize enough lucky shot is not the same with crit shot
and definitely took a while to realize stacking up lucky shot multiply your dmg, been a lot of early run just thought its just "lucky shot = chance not consume ammo while shooting" (this one might just me tho)

quick nacelle
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So with gunfire leaving gamepass, can they finally update the console version of the game

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Get dlcs and stuff

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If I'm gonna have to buy the game now to keep playing

hidden swan
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I mean with the roboquest 1.0 around the corner I’m not sure on that. Not saying it’s a contest just my 2 cents

quick nacelle
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Is roboquest 1.0 gonna be ongamepass

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I know it currently is, but when it actually fully launches is it still gonna be on gamepass

hidden swan
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Not sure why gunfire is leaving game pass just makes no sense to me

proud needle
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The game pass versions were not handled by Duoyi ( the og developers) but 505 games

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And we are in somewhat of a dispute with 505 trying to solve all this

lavish lily
# hidden swan Not sure why gunfire is leaving game pass just makes no sense to me

gamepass listing is temporary except few big titles. And it's not only Gunfire, Persona and Solasta removed too:
"As it does twice per month, Microsoft is removing another set of titles from the Xbox Game Pass library.
Titles getting dropped from Game Pass on October 31 include Gunfire Reborn, Kill It With Fire, Persona 5 Royal, Signalis, and Solasta Crown of the Magister."

proud needle
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Also this

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Its a long rotation but there is

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IIRC its contract based with Microsoft/Xbox and would need to be renewed if one wants to stay in gamepass but could be wrong from what I once read

shrewd cosmos
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Question: does the red panda's mech attacks count as skill daamge?

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like ironwing's normal swings

lime garnet
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iron wing does skill damage, yes

lavish lily
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Where is LFG?

lime garnet
lavish lily
shrewd cosmos
nocturne plover
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you can tell I'm old by the fact I thought that was a bird skill

spring socket
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@thorny parcel assuming not hacking

bronze willow
wide flame
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Hey I am here to ask a bit of help

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where can I post about bugs?

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I am running into a very annoying bug in the game.

proud needle
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how about #1060159100006178816 ?
In the sections Feedback and Suggestion

wide flame
worn dawn
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whos the best character in gunfire im new so im trying to figure out who i should play

winged vine
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The easiest to get consistent with is probably the cat and look for painkiller. You'll feel like a god

proud needle
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Painkiller is not something you start with

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recommending stuff thats Reincarnation only wont help new people

indigo sage
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that was some good shit

celest tundra
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I wonder if the game has some deeper and/or hidden lore besides "ohnoes, demonic aura is messing with the spiritual world"

thorny parcel
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Pole Monarch was someone Uncle Bao fought with, and the Spirit Realm may be dealing with something worse.

There you go.

celest tundra
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Thank you!
See, i hunger for more lore, that we have so little of, so thank you for feeding me with lore, even if it's a fast food variant

young goblet
indigo sage
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explain like im five how to actually play the owl because ive no honest idea

thorny parcel
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  1. Pick purple ascensions and spam cards.

  2. Pick yellow ascensions, select "rare most" at the start then go "legendary most" when you have enough scrolls, and suck with Falling Star until later acts.

  3. Pick blue ascensions, get the 1 mag gemini and make every single shot believe in the heart of the cards.

young goblet
thorny parcel
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Honestly, don't waste your time using cards to try and get a good hand if you're going for Falling Star.

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Unless you've taken Star Protection, Mirror Hand or Card Storm because there was nothing better.

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Oh wait, you don't use cards with Card Storm. Ignore that one.

indigo sage
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also i think i roughly get what he's about, but i just don't understand the Q mechanic seemingly randomly cycling through my cards

thorny parcel
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In the scroll menu you have an extra set of options.

Rare most is one of them, because it's the most useful of them early game.

proud needle
# celest tundra Thank you! See, i hunger for more lore, that we have so little of, so thank you ...

Actually if you want the deep lore :
The Crownprince was actually from a village/town in Spirit Realm but they got attacked by an army of the demonic forces killing all leaving only him.
CP then went and trained in various places around the world like the desert to become stronger and track down the source of this evil.
That's when he comes across rumours about the tomb and travels there only to be ambushed by a manifestation of the demonic energy and ambushed by reanimated clay soldiers.
Uncle Bao finds him and takes him in. They talk about why CP was here and the topic of the increased presence of the demonic energy in the tomb is mentioned.

The runs are also actually meant to be longer journeys with each area having this boss affected by the aura leading them closer and closer while also gathering new allies like Ao Bai and the rest. This goes on until we find the Yoruhime Maru who then turns out to be literally only a vessel. It may have commanded a massive army but was also in a discussion with Bao come to the conclusion it was only a minion and someone else must be behind this as manipulating the demonic aura requires skils and knowledge only found in Spirit Realm but also points out the clear absence of any intervention by them.
Thinking about it but not disclosing everything Bao asks you to investigate again and you notice that the Demonic Aura is very much still active and even stronger enforcing all of its armies and you encounter different bosses infused with it like Golem Wind God and the Abyssal Serpent.
From the coast you follow Bao's leads and arrive at the Hyperborean Yokul where its clear very fast that someone is messing with the land and the demonic aura.
You press on until at the top you find on a mechanical structure, that seems to pull energy from a massive crystal, the Pole Monarch.
A hard battle ensues with the Monarch even starting to siphon the energy ,which then clearly turns out to be crystallised demonic aura, to enhance his abilities and gain some demonic powers.
Ultimately in a final standoff you are the one standing and before you kneels a defeated broken hull of the Pole Monarch, unsure what happened as if in trance.
You return to the inn once more and Bao then reveals that the Pole Monarch was his old adventuring partner.
Seeing that his friend was acting like this he then gets worried as all those evens might indicate that something worse is going on in Spirit Realm, which then is also emphasised that the demonic aura still hasn't fully dissipated and in some parts is so dense that the veil between realms is getting so thin that even demons can interfere and manifest portals which leads you to fight Gluttony in the chaos realm.

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BOOM
LORE

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▶ Play video
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The deep lore unknown to most
My job as a sage is to keep this knowledge for the young'uns

celest tundra
spring socket
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@proud needle they seemed to have changed how off hand weapon inscriptions work, u cant swap weapons with (plus projectile on reload) or (increases mag on reload) anymore

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U loose the buffs now

proud needle
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A) there is no on reload projectiles and b) allmost all insriptions are meant to reset when switching

lavish lily
worthy tapir
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will they ever add crossplatform 😭

proud needle
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Cross Platform requires the netcode to be changed from ground up and maintained for all bases
A) the console and gamepass versions are ( sadly) not maintained by the original PC developers
B) Steam uses Steam P2P whereas the others use the inherent platform network structure

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Not every game offers cross platform becuase its a pain to maintain for your games and requires more work in the first place

worthy tapir
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ohhh i see ill tell my friend to buy a pc dw LOL

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also @proud needle as your hear is there a reason i experience frame drops during like stage 3/4 i have i5 10400f and 1660s....

proud needle
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We are community moderators and have limited help not developers

worthy tapir
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oh i see sorry

spring socket
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@proud needle u used to eb able to reload go from 6 to 11 mag size then switch weapons and ur old mag was still 11

proud needle
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Not intended

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On switch reset

spring socket
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Okay so they fixed it

proud needle
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Long time ago but some weapons it was persisiting

spring socket
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It still worked on all

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Launchers pistols argus etc

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Also u loose projectile bonus when going down

hidden swan
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I love how I finished laika and saw that gunfire had a update but also a upcoming update in November

proud fable
rancid pine
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Hello, I want to make a recommendation/suggestion for the developers of the game or those who manage it, I think it would be good if they added a boss rush mode to the game, it would be interesting and fun, there is already the normal mode in stages, the assault mode, but I think the boss rush mode would be missing, which would add another dynamic to the game and I think they complement the dynamics of the game.

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That's just a suggestion, if the developers don't see it as viable and see it as total nonsense, that's fine. I think it would be interesting, but if for reasons I don't know, they can't implement it in the game, then there's no other choice.

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I hope this idea is useful to you, without further ado, I thank you for your work on the game since it shows and I am currently enjoying it from the mobile platform

thorny parcel
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Better to post in #1006489853648715786 rather than here. More likely to be seen and won't get washed away by talking here.

As for the suggestion itself, I personally would probably play it once or twice, then completely ignore it afterwards. It's really more of a gimmick mode rather than something solid.

Not really worth the development time, personally. There are far more pressing matters the game should address.

rancid pine
lavish marten
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the thunderstorm is insane thanks @devs

grim moss
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it seems hard to find ppl to play this game oddly enough....

bronze willow
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Thats lfg channel for usually
for me on SEA queue took an average 15-30mins per queue to find 3/4
depends on the hour could be 10 mins

royal plinth
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In a co-op run, for how long do I need to watch the other players before turning back to life, if I died?

bronze willow
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They can revive you if there's a peddler

royal plinth
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A paddler?

bronze willow
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The frog who sell supplies

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I mean peddler, brokey brain

royal plinth
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Oh okay. And if they do not use his services to revive me, I'll just stay on spectator mode forever??

bronze willow
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I think swapping to new Act auto revive you on the start

celest tundra
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Defeating a Boss will revive everyone dead, afaik.

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Or that, what Milky said.

bronze willow
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Except final boss will auto revive you upon defeating it

celest tundra
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áh, so it's only the Final Boss, that revives you when defeated.

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That means, rip dead people with no post-boss rewards, lmao

bronze willow
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Those who wanna put weapon on Arsenal they can't previously xD
i think thats what peeps complain about too

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Well, my friends and me does
especially having great weapon and just died on Monarch

high whale
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What comes with/after reincarnation 9? I just beat 8 with a friend on console and it broke me to see we didn’t unlock 9 because the update hasn’t happened yet… 700mill damage later

thorny parcel
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Oh right, there are parts missing from that section.

Welp, I know what to do to delay any attempt to play the game again!

proven sage
worthy tapir
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Can this game be played offline ?On mobile or steam

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I might get it on my phone soon ?

rancid pine
# worthy tapir Can this game be played offline ?On mobile or steam

the game can be played without an Internet connection on mobile devices but only once you have entered if you have not entered no and in order to enter it asks for an Internet connection so we can say that if you need Internet if you want to play I think it would be something that should be better entered without an Internet connection and when you can enter with the Internet and synchronize everything like other games do

royal plinth
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Is this game cross-platform? If so, between which ones?

spring socket
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@royal plinth xbox and windows

royal plinth
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Ok, thanks!

proud needle
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Before you get too happy @royal plinth

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Game Pass windows

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Not the steam version

royal plinth
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I'm playing from Console.

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And I just thanked for good manners.

spring socket
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I said windows not steam

proud needle
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You assume that they know. Let me tell you this from more than a year dealing with that

spring socket
rose talon
thorny parcel
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Put that one in #1060159100006178816.

rose talon
thorny parcel
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Still an issue. It shouldn't display false information.

languid finch
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Tried to do a scorching round run on nona, Didnt find a single one until the final shop outside of the polar bear room lmao

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first time thats happened

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especially with all the drops from lone wolf elites and double shop rerolls 💀

rose talon
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I swear with the rework Thunder storm has gone from a weapon I pretty much never use to my single most favourite weapon in the game.
It's so much fun to send orbs of destruction hurtling across the map zapping everything in their path

bronze willow
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Tryna do dual Thunderstorm and dual justice now, just, tryna find a matchmaking first xD

rose talon
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if you get the link that gives +100 to launchers and put the magazine share gemini on them they deal absurd damage

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you can even build those thingies for crit.
A fucking launcher build for crit.
it's such stupid fun

bronze willow
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depends on what I get later from other character's ascensions, I can try either dual thunderstorm/justice after Stage 1 boss

spring socket
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@bronze willow still looking?

bronze willow
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im SEA server tho

bronze willow
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2 hours random queue no luck
eepy instead

worthy tapir
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Can you transfer ur data from steam to windows version ?

thorny parcel
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No.

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You can do it the other way round though.

worthy tapir
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Aight thanks!

rose talon
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is there a place to give positive feedback? Because I need to let the devs know just how much fun the new thunderstorm is

winged vine
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Haha amen brother! It's quickly risen to top tier for me. With counter violence its an absolutely psycho gun.

lavish lily
rose talon
# winged vine Haha amen brother! It's quickly risen to top tier for me. With counter violence ...

this thing is nuts with just about everything. Not even kidding.
All but two of the enhanced weapon boni make it a beast. It can make use of every single gemini and I think there's not a single inscription that this weapon can't make good use of.

And if you actually do get matching inscriptions then Holy shit.
I got one with two of the crit elemental orbs and a crit enhance in my armory right now. The orbs it leaves behind in it's trail of destruction alone are enough to take out fodder enemies in RE8 mysterious jokrul scaled to 2 players.

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tomorrow I'll test if the tendrils can trigger Ao Bai's grenade ascension in spiritual assault because if so then may God forgive the war crimes I'm about to commit.

winged vine
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He works with snow tiger like an absolute psychopath

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But also, they changed it to be a launch which means epic shenanigans with monkey because it turns his ult into a high damage AOE it's busted

winged epoch
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is tao frame still bugged to unlock

void dune
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Like I just don’t get it why wouldn’t 505 games update and get the dlcs on console like bro they wouldn’t they make a lot more money and that’s what they’re after isn’t it?

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Like it’s just so confusing

thorny parcel
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They also do contracts with other game companies.

And if another game company's contract looks like it would earn them more money...

void dune
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So like they can still hold the contract for it or something but not do anything?

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It’s a shame I have the game on steam but none of my friends have computers and they have PlayStations I got a PlayStation

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Id get the game if it was actually taken care of

thorny parcel
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I don't know the details at all, but I would not be surprised if the contract was just "definitely complete the game now, and update it when you decide to".

void dune
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I be feeling like this penguin

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Eh whatever I’ll just play the game again when I get my new laptop in a few months

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Ima be getting a Lenovo legion

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It’s gonna be phenomenal

golden fog
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So I'm playing woth a friend sometimes and I notoced that I am just massively outdamenging. I was wpundering if there is anything I can do to help teach them the game so they aren't falling behind so often.

They often play crown prince, if that matters

thorny parcel
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I mean, there's a massive amount of stuff, some more intricately detailed than others, you can teach them to make a difference.

But the biggest difference you could make right now is by sabotaging yourself so you do less damage.

golden fog
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time to do foundary only

thorny parcel
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Doesn't have to go that far (and depending on your build, it won't even make a difference).

But something like that, yes.

golden fog
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Also, do you know how much not getting a spirtual blessing impacts damage for reincarnation runs?

thorny parcel
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Massively.

golden fog
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That might be the case then

thorny parcel
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Spiritual blessings are some of the single most powerful bonuses in the entire game.

golden fog
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Lastly, do you know of a good way to convince people that using the bizzare dream modification (i.e. interdependant fourtanes, etc.) is not cheating?

thorny parcel
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No, because I don't play multiplayer and there are definitely combinations that are basically cheating.

Like Flesh and Bones + Paranormality, or Spirit Feline if you're using a high RoF build.

golden fog
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wait ...
Flesh & Bones + Paranormality is just not getting hit

thorny parcel
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You don't pick up both scrolls.

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The enemies on the other hand, are forced to.

golden fog
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Ah

thorny parcel
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Every single normal enemy and elite, with the exception of unenhanced Anxi Desert enemies, will die in 1 hit.

golden fog
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Nice to know

thorny parcel
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Getting the combo is random, but the fact that it even exists is grounds for thinking it lets you pretty much cheat.

golden fog
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I see

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Thanks for letting me know

spring socket
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Paramorality is broken in general just equip a bloody drill and everything dies in one hit

ruby oasis
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Thunder storm and justice are dummy op now

polar solstice
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Uncle Bao, i'm trying to sneak around, but i'm dummy op, and the clap of my thumder storm keeps alerting the monsters!

spring socket
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Uncle boa found ur stash of lava coom and has banned the justice Pepega

golden fog
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Is there any good way to practice getting good with aiming for crits? espically with r9 enemy movement?

left cloud
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today there's an update what is it about ?

left cloud
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gotcha

lilac wadi
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So when can Xbox expect to get the DLC?

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Cause at this point I'm tired of going through nightmare solo since ppl don't know how to make builds

gusty mountain
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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You have to ask 505 games on that one.

thorny parcel
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At the moment, it won't be until further notice.

Because Gunfire Reborn is getting pulled off Gamepass on October 31st (not the Microsoft store, it'll still be there for people who already have it or something, I don't know the details of Xbox).

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You can thank 505 Games for their constant updates and support while the port was there. /s

lilac wadi
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Well fuq

rose talon
ruby oasis
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Must be spiritual assault

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Seems like normal numbers

proud fable
ruby oasis
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Um

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No?

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Oh I see it’s a joke teehee

bronze willow
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R9 Kinda hands you tons of elites , it looks normal
especially if u have enhanced one basically count every one of em from Act 1

ruby oasis
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Tons for sure but not 152 elites

gusty mountain
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No way you're finding 152 elites in R9

bronze willow
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i wish i i could look at the elite assassin stats in my past game to see it

ruby oasis
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Highest I got was MAYBE 50 and that was when I got elite assassin as my first scroll or enhanced

thorny parcel
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The Bizarre Dream Update

• Spirutual Link
• Buffed over half the links, because we figured they were too weak.
• Mysterious Jokul
• Each elite and boss has a small chance to drop a Spiritual Goblet from Spiritual Assault, for even more stuff equivalent to blessings.
• Lone Wolf
• Increased the maximum player count from 4 to 16, spawning even more enemies for free loot- I mean, challenge.
• To remove all possible challenge from the game anyway, every 4 players above the initial 4 grants access to another Spiritual Blessing for free, up to 4 total.
• Transcendent Arsenal
• Added an Arsenal Guard to the start of Longling Tomb. Now you can access all your super lucky weapons right from the very beginning.
• Mission from Above
• Removed penalties from all tasks. They didn't do much and you players were never permanently stuck with them anyway. Just seemed like unnecessary text at that point.

thorny parcel
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No, I made it up.

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Convincing, no?

left cloud
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I was

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excited for

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16 man

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:(

gusty mountain
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that would be laggy

left cloud
gusty mountain
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Especially with corrupt monks.

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I'm sure we all know that one room in Act 3 where you get spammed by lanterns.

proud fable
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oh i hate it

thorny parcel
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You mean the one which would get completely obliterated with the 4 free spiritual blessings you'd get if the fake update existed?

proud fable
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theres like 5 monks at the far back so you have to fight through the sharks and yakshas while being bombarded by lanterns

gusty mountain
left cloud
thorny parcel
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Also, 17 elite Elite Gatherings.

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34 weapon drops, 1 legendary scroll drop, 1 golden goblet drop, mountains of copper and no effort required.

left cloud
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I mean

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if you play tiger chain lighting or atomic dog or fox nuke or cat and options goes on to easily do it

thorny parcel
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Was never doubting how easy it was.

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Just pointing out the massive amount of "compensation" you'd get for effortlessly winning.

gusty mountain
left cloud
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mhm

thorny parcel
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Reminds me of a Noita quote.

"You know you should stop when the cost for spells is not your mana, but your FPS."

polar solstice
meager hull
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I love noita that’s so true

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Also when y’all do r9 runs do yall use all the bizarre dreams or do they make the runs too easy

ruby oasis
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I use everything except arsenal

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Cause it sucks

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But I never pick up pain killer or overconsumption, because they trivialize R9

spring socket
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Over consumption doesnt make r9 easy

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Its the pair of over consumption and other stuff that make it easy

proud fable
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no... overconsumption makes r9 easy

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free triple damage, more shield, movement speed, and cooldowns is overpowered

proud fable
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Li spiritual flame isn't OP.

It's just the combination of talents, blessings, and ascensions that make it strong

thorny parcel
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Even if Overconsumption doesn't make R9 easy (somehow), it's still the most powerful all-purpose blessing, and is at its most powerful at the point you need power the most.

Unless you've in multiplayer and have been fed enough scrolls where you'd win from the scrolls alone, there is literally no reason not to pick it if you see it, besides seeing something specifically powerful for a build.

quartz current
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Behold

thorny parcel
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Oh my bad. I completely forgot how powerful Eye of Providence is.

quartz current
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If you really think about it, EOP is an insane multiplicative damage buff because taking it right away obviously guarantees you get 3rd Time Unlucky, Take it All, and Evil Devouring Sword in Act 1.

bronze willow
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that sounds fun

cloud rain
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Hello there!

quartz current
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It's funny when it happens

cloud rain
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Just downloaded and installed the game on Steam.

bronze willow
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Welcome, have fun

quartz current
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Enjoy starting with one of the most fun characters CrownPrince 📈

cloud rain
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Gonna listen to my personal tracker module playlist. Can I Alt-TAB into WinAMP, XMPlay, or Windows Media Player Legacy and play a new MIDI or tracker module file, while the in-game music is turned down?

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I have DOOM music on there.

quartz current
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Audio from outside programs should play while the game is running, yes.

cloud rain
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Also got the Artisan and Magician DLC.

thorny parcel
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With that purchase, you just won the game. Congrats.

quartz current
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Behold.

cloud rain
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TIME TO RIP AND TEAR THROUGH THE FORCES OF... uh...

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this world... I guess?

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It's gonna be a lot of trial and error, a good learning experience.

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Accidentally sent a GIF there.

thorny parcel
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The thing I'm talking about does the ripping and tearing for you.

cloud rain
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I've tried Risk of Rain 2 before, but only for a bit. Was frustrating but was a bit interesting...?

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Time to frickin' suffer and learn how to kill.

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By the way, can I B-Hop (bunny hop) my way through this world? Like Quake?

thorny parcel
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No. Movement speed decays very quickly.

cloud rain
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What about rocket jumping?

thorny parcel
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Nope. Vertical boosting is very limited and unnecessary majority of the time. Plus you'd immediately kill yourself if you could.

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The only fancy movement option you have is the ability to dash.

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Plus some heroes who have skills with movement in them.

cloud rain
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I wonder how would Gunfire Reborn's arsenal of heroes and weapons would fair in DOOM?

bronze willow
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All horizontal directional speeds are the same, there's no need to bhop xDD

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But I still have habit to move like bhopping cuz other game

cloud rain
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Would they be able to rip 'n' tear through the forces of Hell?

thorny parcel
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Easily.

cloud rain
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Even with all the mechanics taken into account?

thorny parcel
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Yes.

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What they lack in movement mechanics, they make up for massively in power scaling.

cloud rain
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What about DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal?

thorny parcel
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No idea. I haven't played Doom.

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Probably still the same case though.

cloud rain
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I wonder what other FPS games you have played?

meager hull
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does perfect sixth work with cudgel in xing zhe

bronze willow
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I have vague memory that it does since Cudgel does weapon dmg
but don't quote me on that cuz my brain could just plant some fake memory

meager hull
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yea there were too manynumbers ffor me to check

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i took it but couldnt tell late game xd

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wish there were most characters like the monkey that lets you use any weapon you want cuz some of them are really fun

bronze willow
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You can hold C by default and Right click to activate your cursor to see the individual effects whenever you hover those tiny icons

cedar forge
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New player 🖐️

bronze willow
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welcome welcome

cedar forge
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W game, or my monky dopamine brain activates when see big dmg

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broken build = neuron activate

cloud rain
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I wonder what kind of music do you listen to during your runs?

leaden galleon
#

does anyone know if the mastery divinecraft of nona affects firemode of ironwing or is it just strike mode?

winged vine
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Why does getting eye of Providence guarantee you get third time unlucky etc in the first area?

winged vine
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Hahahaha

meager hull
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oh my god im so screwed i got flesh and bones from the rng scroll thing

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75 hp run fighting gluttony

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oh nvm i deleted him

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ok bird secondary build in spiritual assult is a free win

acoustic valve
#

anyone for a game

spring socket
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Wrong chat

acoustic valve
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which is the right one

spring socket
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#lfg-global

cloud rain
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Time to do my first run!

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How do I open the Vault?

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It's my first run.

proud needle
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Not on the first run

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if you go to it and try to shoot it it should say you cant open it

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Just do the run, it will be clear

cloud rain
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A brick!? What? As a gun?

proud needle
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Its a sniper

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to confuse you more

leaden galleon
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its very fun to use

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one of the more active weapons

cloud rain
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This game's arsenal has some weird weaponry...

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I'm listening to the Quake OST right now, by the way.

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Why is RNGesus giving me this stuff?

leaden galleon
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star ring is kinda bad in my opinion

cloud rain
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Do you want me to try new things, RNGesus?

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And my first run ends in death...

proud needle
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As for many it does

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but now it should be clearer how to open the crack in the wall you saw

cloud rain
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Looks like I got to be Talent Level 10 to unlock matchmaking...

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Time to grind!

proud needle
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Its no grind really that will be in no time and you can already try to find people with the lobby code system in the lfg channels

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But a tip :
Early on using the essence to revive is rather a trap than aid

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it will cost you essence that is more helpful as upgrades

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I would only revive if you are in a boss fight and are about to defeat them the first time

cloud rain
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I'm having a feeling that this run is going to be the one...

thorny parcel
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I can safely say that... uhh... it's a run.

cloud rain
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The Savage Glove I have is multiplying my damage by a lot. It's my 2nd run.

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Time to face the first boss!

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It was getting good!

proud needle
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Just keep going at it
Each defeat means more upgrades in the future

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And getting to know the enemies pattern

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One tip : Elemental fusions
When two elements are applied on the same enemy they create combo effects

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not fully up to date but the general information for a new player is there

thorny parcel
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Here's the more updated one.

spring socket
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Whays the difference in the 2????

proud needle
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Shock dmg no longer aoes and technically Miasma affects Elites and bosses differently

lime garnet
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and the combustion change

proud needle
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yep

thorny parcel
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Actually Miasma change was it affects HP and Shields/Armor differently across all enemies, and no longer AoEs.

But neither of those are mentioned, so eh.

cloud rain
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So I lost my in-progress third run, all because of my parents finding out I am not doing my college homework... my mum (I'm an American, but I like the British saying of mom) disconnected my laptop and the drives, including the Gunfire Reborn one.

cloud rain
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Quake 2's "Operation Overlord", works well with the beginning of a run, because it fits the time that you're mowing down your enemies. Heck, the rest of the Quake 2 soundtrack, with it's metal genre works well to mowing down your enemies!

golden fog
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Is QianSui a turtle?

bronze willow
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snapping turtle

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Wiki do tell every characters' original animal
it's alligator snapping turtle to be precise

lapis gorge
#

If you're running the injector + shotgun / spores build, which one do you upgrade through craftsman?

thorny parcel
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Shotgun.

lapis gorge
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Injector or illusion in this instance?

thorny parcel
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Shotgun.

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Illusion is the worst spore shotgun.

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But still shotgun.

lapis gorge
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I was told to run illusion and argus

thorny parcel
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Don't use 2 shotguns.

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Always use a high RoF weapon and a shotgun.

lapis gorge
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Okay thanks

quartz current
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Preferably Argus or Hell.

thorny parcel
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Or Wild Hunt.

spring socket
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Illusion is high rof

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Also.doesnt each pellet also have it own spore?

thorny parcel
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Illusion's highest RoF is 4.5.

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That's worse than literally all rifles, SMGs and most Injectors.

celest tundra
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He's asking if each pellet adds to a spore stack.

thorny parcel
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He also said Illusion is high RoF.

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It isn't.

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As for the spore application, the fired weapon applies 1 spore for each hit it lands.

While the offhand weapon applies 1 spore for every projectile on the item card, as long as at least 1 hit per shot lands.

So if you want to fire an Illusion and have it do well, you need to land every pellet. But it still won't do better than something which fires significantly faster, as that will apply significantly more spores from the offhand.

Spore damage is also calculated by combining the total damage and projectiles of each weapon, then dividing it by all projectiles.

Illusion has a lot more projectiles to divide the damage by with less damage than the offhand to raise it back up, resulting in less spore damage.

winged vine
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It's worse fire rate than all them but has a lot of instances of planting spores per shot. I've tried it a few times, doesn't feel as good as a rainbow or angelic aura etc but still effective enough.

meager hull
winged vine
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If you have illusion as main hand and wildhunt/he'll etc as offhand it can work. Definitely not as good as rainbow but meh.

bronze willow
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Not exactly a fan on star ring myself so i dont know how to build one and why its strong, but I definitely picked it up couple times and it decimate mobs, then picked up the other time and it does nothing but succ your entire ammo pool

thorny parcel
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Pretty much every rifle, SMG and injector will outperform it, and even some other things like Aura of Venom, Cloud Weaver, Woodpecker (if you click fast enough) and (apparently) Thunder Storm.

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And pretty much none of those weapons will worsen spore damage by bloating the damage calculation with many weak projectiles.

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So that's like... 24/57 weapons in the game can outperform it.

meager hull
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I want to buy the dlc honestly more for the weapons than characters

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I feel like skill builds in this game take out a lot of skill since they’re such large aoe or auto target

thorny parcel
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And usually stronger in more obvious ways.

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Especially the DLC heroes.

meager hull
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Why can’t I talk in the steam platform chat

silent osprey
meager hull
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Dang

proud needle
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Steam2

halcyon field
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i just finished a run and my soul essences were in the negative when it was being calculated so i gained 135 instead of 544??

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is this a known issue?

thorny parcel
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You gained less during the run than you spent. Don't spend so much soul essence next time if you don't want to go into the negatives.

proud needle
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If you are still early on in the talent tree :
Using the revive is more a trap than help

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Costs way too much soul essence

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especially the further into a run you are

lavish lily
halcyon field
silent osprey
cloud rain
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Think this is good for first boss?

silent osprey
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i mean, probably? you'll fill the talent tree eventually anyways.
though i think there's a priority recommendation, but i'm not the person to ask for it cuz i don't know it. xP

proud needle
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The latent tree only helps , question is : are you ready ?

long mural
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Was Li nerfed hard or something? Im trying her and no matter whar, with all skill scrolls ive seen, she does like nothing versus the mechanic character

leaden galleon
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nona?

long mural
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but when i read stuff online everyones saying they 1-4hit most bosses

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yeah nona felt a bit overpowered for me, while li feels horrible

leaden galleon
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maybe depends on r level

long mural
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Im pre reincarnation. Both characters equally upgraded too

leaden galleon
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hmm

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whats the level of li

long mural
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One sec let me exit this run to check

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Shes one upgrade less then my nona, nona is 4/5 while li is 3/5. My talent level is 60

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Idk whats up with it, but her fully charged ability with firefox blessing and all that maxed still wasnt doing jack for me

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her secondary seems good though

leaden galleon
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do you use elemental combinations?

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that can be the reason

long mural
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combinations? Dont think so. Didnt know they existed.

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i mainly use fire on her because i didnt know elements had benefits outside the weaker debuffs

leaden galleon
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this chart explains it pretty well

long mural
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Ah i see

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yeah i wasnt aware lol

leaden galleon
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its a gamechanger

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especially explosion and miasma

long mural
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i mainly use non elem or fire on her or whatever i get with wolf on nona

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noted so i want decay fire

leaden galleon
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yeah p much

long mural
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Also can wolf gaze not get elements?

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its one of the few weapons i never seen roll the elemental change effect

leaden galleon
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i think every weapons does get an elemental effect

long mural
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I see. Im super unlicky then

proud needle
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Weapons with inherent element have only theirs
Elementless get theirs via conversion or the rare inscription of that element

long mural
proud needle
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yes

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If you look in the Armory in the Logbook you can see that every weapon has an Elemental Effect % listed

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In the difficulties from Normal to Nightmare only the Rare Inscription can convert non elemental dmg into elemental
In Reincarnation you additionaly get the Spiritual Link option for Elemental Conversion
Spiritual Assault has its own conversion element for the Spirit Concentrator as an additional Method

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That way in Reincarnation or Spiritual Assault even the Foundry can be Elemental

long mural
spring socket
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@thorny parcel i think the only thing that makes illusion spores good is the double projectile illusion witj increase ROF

velvet zealot
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What's the best gemini inscription? Or I guess a better question is which of them is the easiest to use?

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I'm on mobile and am struggling with elite so I'm trynna learn more lol

proud needle
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Really just depends

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If you have an injector type weapon like rainbow or smg you can go with spores and have the other spore weapon be a shotgun

velvet zealot
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I like the double element one but the manipulation doesn't really work on bigger monsters

long mural
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So is lis burn shield passive supposed to tick burn damagw?

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because it didnt on the enemy that hit me. He just became a spicy cheetoh

silent osprey
long mural
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Another question. I cant rememebr so, the fucks an ascension? Im trying out the astrocard guy and cant figure out the upgrading scroll mechsnic

lime garnet
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Ascensions are from goblets

silent osprey
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ascension? ascensions are the "upgrades" you pick in-game from the goblets.

lime garnet
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I.e the chest at the end of a stage

long mural
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I see. I thought so

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So how does "upgrading a scroll" work then?

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Does it do it automatically at random with a chance to succeed?

silent osprey
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the owl's upgrade mechanic? it's automatic.
when you have upgrades available, the game will "upgrade" your scrolls' rarity based on the option you have set in the inventory screen.
"upgrade" in quotes cuz it doesn't actually upgrade the scroll, but rather artificially increase the scroll rarity so it acts as if it were the upgraded rarity.
this mechanic is specifically for most of owl's abilities. outside of that, stuffs that relies on scroll rarities will act as normal. (Overconsumption)

hope that makes sense?

long mural
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That sucks though. I was hoping it could add a whole new step to making scrolls stupidly good

lime garnet
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The “upgraded” scrolls only affect owl’s abilities

long mural
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Ah i misunderstood the second half. I get it now

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Does resetting change the scroll that got reset to another scroll? Because i tried resetting a boss chest scroll and i swear it gave me one that wasnt a choice originally

lime garnet
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Yes

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Resetting scrolls rerolls them to an equal or higher rarity

silent osprey
long mural
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Neato. Thats useful then. The game keeps giving me the double edged scrolls

meager hull
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how good is lighting blast

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and the kunai dagger weapons

meager hull
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hoenstly not sure how good most of the weapons are

thorny parcel
# meager hull how good is lighting blast

Lightning Blast requires planning and positioning to use its weapon skill effectively.

Late game, you don't need planning and positioning to kill everything easily, so this falls off as difficulty increases.

thorny parcel
# meager hull and the kunai dagger weapons

Prism works well in Longling Tomb due to tight spaces it can bounce off of, but this falls off the moment you step into the next act.

Glimmering got nerfed long ago. It's sucked ever since.

Arc Light is decent for your usual elemental builds as it can hit multiple targets at once. Though given what Thunder Storm can now do, it may have just become redundant.

ruby oasis
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Lightning storm prob worst gun now

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Wait

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Frenzied shark

thorny parcel
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Frenzied Shark has been laughing stock since forever.

spring socket
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Its not bad tbh

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Obviously only good on fog

thorny parcel
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In a game where many of the best are completely OP, merely being "not bad" is a laughing stock.

bronze willow
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i would love to try make frenzied shark work
I ditched last time cuz i feel like an absolute burden to the team from the start for picking frenzied shark

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at some point a stray star ring on the floor dealt more damage than dual frenzied shark
so i bail

spring socket
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Run triple projectile with its exclusive inscription +50$ total dmg per bounce

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Makes it do lots of dmg

thorny parcel
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Yes, any weapon can be good if you get a godlike inscription roll.

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The fact Frenzied Shark needs it however? Still a laughing stock.

spring socket
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Not god like

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God like is
+1 projectile
Double projectile on 2 hits
+50% per bounce
+65% on elemental
+.2 per kill

thorny parcel
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If you run an inscription for triple projectiles that requires no reloads, and up to double damage per projectile for bouncing, dealing x6 damage is still pretty godlike.

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And if x6 damage makes it good, then x1 damage sucks completely.

bronze willow
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i still gonna try it someday if im lucky to find one mid run

spring socket
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I mean ive done plenty 5 bill dmg runs with it on dog

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Doesnt take a lot to get built its juat a must need to have 3x projectile

thorny parcel
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That damage number is virtually meaningless.

You can cheese it with overkill which would make Frenzied Shark look better than all high RoF, low DMG weapons.

You can cheese it with constantly attacking Immortal enemies and Pole Monarch clones.

You can cheese it by killing respawning enemies constantly.

You can get significantly higher numbers if you play Spiritual Assault and use Explosive Grenade's damage from a spiritual ascension.

You can get significantly higher numbers just by playing with other people, because they have more health by default.

Additionally, you still mentioned you required great inscriptions to even do this. If you didn't have them, you wouldn't be able to achieve what other weapons can by default.

proud needle
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If you live and the others dont you did enough dmg

thorny parcel
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Not a matter of winning in this case. It's a matter of weapon usefulness.

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Foundry while holding every damage reduction in the game with no damage bonuses can achieve the same "live and the others don't" requirement that the best weapon and skill builds can.

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Difference is, it'll take forever.

proud needle
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Okay let me rephrase

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or add

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"Doesnt matter if it takes 5 seconds or the blink of an eye to kill something"

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Reasonable time should be a given

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And not talkin elites

thorny parcel
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Being a Foundry enthusiast yourself who likes to do challenges with it, you should know more than most people the difference between 5 seconds and 0.5 seconds per enemy when it comes to entertainment value, weapon value or not dying.

spring socket
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@storm oxide

storm oxide
polar solstice
rancid pine
polar solstice
golden fog
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How do you build with bunny?
I recall them being mostly RoF spam

thorny parcel
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RoF spam or hit spam.

golden fog
spring socket
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@young marten i really hope that lobby wasnt ur friends, sorry for malding. But my god i lost brain cells after he said spores can be used on any weapon

gusty mountain
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Technically it can be used on any weapon that can get it. However, its effectiveness on that weapon is a different story.

thorny parcel
golden fog
thorny parcel
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Counterviolence, First Strike or Sword Mastery are probably your best bet.

Overconsumption and Skilled Trick can work too.

Field Proficiency, Ultimate Firearm, Craftsman's Inheritor and Supreme Craftsman if you don't really find anything better.

golden fog
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Ok, then for accentions, is it just yellow tree?

thorny parcel
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More or less, yes. A bit of purple too if nothing better appears.

leaden galleon
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what do you guys think about hybrid iron wing build for nona?

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would it be better than pure strike or pure fire mode?

spring socket
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@gusty mountain he was using a rainbow with a calvry off hand

tacit current
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need some basic feedback: how helpful is this UI guide for the owl? Are there any mistakes that I made?

silent osprey
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minor correction from me: the slots are the astrohouse, while the scrolls icon inside are the astroaspects. astroaspects aren't the cards.

hidden swan
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I just wish some of the abilities were a bit more clear

meager hull
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id really love a support hero

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honestly more for solo play than multiplayer

thorny parcel
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Technically Nona is that.

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""Technically""

meager hull
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ok i meant id love skills that give fun buffs so it gives you maximum flexibility with guns choices and its gun focused gameplay

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i really dont want more characters that specialize in specific playstyles

tacit current
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burn = more damage
lightning = fire rate and reload speed

cyan zephyr
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Does Taos shield ascension have a cap?

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I guess I just thought as many swords as you throw, the shields go up, but it mentions if max shield bonus exceeds 20 stacks increase recharge speed 50%

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So does it cap at 20 stacks or do the shields just go as high as you can throw the swords and after 20 you get a hella bonus of faster recharge

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@gusty mountain will know, bunny is the best character so he’s gotta know

proven sage
meager hull
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ok this is so lame

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i got a spiritual assault goblet glass cannon and it says -50% max hp

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but in everyother case in the game that i know max hp% means green health

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but this included shields like this is why im never sure whenever it says max hp

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it was prtetty obvious it would include shields for balance but i still took it to be sure sigh

leaden galleon
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it includes shields too

meager hull
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Like I test it constantly cuz it’s so wack

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Devils covenant for ex

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And the -75% legendary one p much most stuff

long mural
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Do i have to do the snow area for a run to count for the next difficulty?

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Im on nightmare, got the option to exit or continue . just wanna know beforehand

silent osprey
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act 4 is optional

long mural
long mural
leaden galleon
silent osprey
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if you proceed into act 4 and lose, it'll count as a loss and you won't unlock the next reincarnation level.

long mural
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Nice. I can finally be done w nightmare

leaden galleon
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i love act 4 but man

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those ufos

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i want to bang my head to the walls

silent osprey
long mural
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ive noticed positive based "totals" tend to only effect hp or shield, while negative effects both

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Whether its an english translation error or what is beyond me.

silent osprey
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but the thing about localization error is correct lul. always refer to the wiki, as the info there is almost always correct.

long mural
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Thats what i figured and did in the past.

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Theyll get it fixed sooner or later. I trust them more then 505 atp

silent osprey
long mural
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Cant remember exactly what scrolls. It was like 2 or 3 days ago

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If i see it again ina later run ill send it in chat

leaden galleon
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are the builds on the wiki up to date?

silent osprey
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should be

long mural
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So astrocast boi, is he better gun focused using his secondary and on hit/astro generation effects for damage?

silent osprey
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i have no idea. i play him with cards as focus.

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cuz skill builds are stupid strong lmao

long mural
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Thats what i been doing, but i also grab the weapon abilities mostly with it

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i hadnt been bothering with astrohouse

silent osprey
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but for owl using weapon, i think he prefers a 1 mag size weapon, utilizing one of his ascension in the blue tree.

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i forgot which one is it. :V

spring socket
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I was thinking that a good fix for blessing should be that
You can only have 1 specific blessing 1 dmg buff blessing and 1 "game" blessing at a time

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So that means no first strike and counter violence at the same time but thay also means blessing will guarantee min 1 max 2 or dmg buff or game buffs

thorny parcel
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Sometimes you only need 1 blessing, or the useful blessings are different variety anyway.

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For example, Atomic Bomb would be a specific blessing, Skill Freak would be a DMG buff blessing, and Endless Assault would probably be a "game" blessing.

This is no different to the usual Atomic Dog builds.

spring socket
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No thas both dmg buff

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Jackpot fake death steady profits etc are game buffs

thorny parcel
spring socket
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Dmg buff is anything to the character its self

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Grenade increases isnt a game buff

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I guess u could consider dmg buff as anything that interacts with the character itself

thorny parcel
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Also this still changes nothing for builds that only require 1 blessing to be super effective. Like Painkiller, All or Nothing, Thunder & Glory, Tsunami Punch, Raging Inferno, Star Compass, Pair of Us and Mecha Crash.

spring socket
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Jackpot isnt

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Thats a game extra coins

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Coins arent apart of the player

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Also battle scared is hp abd dmg buff?

thorny parcel
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The player is given 2000 copper immediately, and the player gets +50% copper from all sources.

thorny parcel
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No damage buff here. Yet by your logic it's a damage buff.

spring socket
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Dmg buff was just an example princecri

thorny parcel
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Mhm. Sure.

meager hull
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is there an ingame timer anywhere

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LMAO im blind

bronze willow
spring socket
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Tbh im surprised jow fast we got through

proud needle
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Meanwhile speedrunners :

spring socket
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I mean it was rando coop

meager hull
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are there any r9 speedruns

tacit current
bronze willow
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Yes, it has 2 portals after completing Act 3
Left one for Act 4, and Right one for leave to lobby

meager hull
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ok i literally

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tried like 10 times to get the stun an elite for 10 seconds

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i swear i completed it multiple times

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but none of my attempts worked sigh maybe the stun from manipulation ruins it and it has to be purely ur energy orb stun

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i feel like simply maxing out the 6 second stun acension should be enough

long mural
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Are spiritual remnants temporary upgrades for a reincarn run? Im in my first reincarn

solid summit
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anyone up for a run?

rancid pine
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Can someone tell me the latest news about the game or the latest news that was said?

thorny parcel
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#game-announcements

indigo sage
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two rather good runs of today

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that second run was agonizing. didn't do jack shit in terms of damage against the golem and we had six elite arsonists on one level in the desert: 2 as a random encounter, 3 as an elite encounter and the elite arsonist vault

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and then things took a turn for the better

spring socket
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2 hours?

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Or did yall farm lanterns

meager hull
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i did a funnyt

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i did an even funnier

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thats actually so lucky i was hoping for a flesh an bones for the memes and my final reroll got it

long mural
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I just finished a reincarnation level 1 run where the match became a cod zombies wunderwaffe train due to the thunder ball gun with an exclusive inscription. That was funnest time i had in the last week

indigo sage
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Hence the agonizing remark

meager hull
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wow lvl 53 tower

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is that a kasana these runs are quirky

soft oasis
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Does anyone know when the consoles will be getting the updates?

meager hull
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is there any tips with getting prince;s border

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i feel like 2 charges and max 6 second stuns should be enough

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is it like orb, wait 5 seconds, orb, wait 3, and then spam orb

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because the stun was instantly wearing off the second it landed before i could get the achievement

bronze willow
#

My friend got some pretty decent perma lock cat using 'Energy Bolt' and 'Splinter Orb'
I dunno the rest but that two definitely gives quite an impact on perma locking entire pack of elite gathering

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its easier to do that on packed elites

meager hull
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but ur so right i could actually perma cast with that

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so ill try a non skill dmg build with that

bronze willow
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prob yea, do dedicated run for it
or get lucky in 4 coop multiplayer

meager hull
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honestly sounds like a fun build for r9

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perma stun but not nuking with primary

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how many players do you think is the game most fun with

bronze willow
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tbh its an easy mode build
if u got decent build with it, elite gathering just basically statues

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friend tend to do that build when playing cat
the damage is not massive until very near of Act 4
but u definitely perma lock things

meager hull
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yea that sounds so nice

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ultimate gambler is so good with lone wolf bizarre dream

last vine
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I played on xbox when the game was on gamepass, but now its gone. Should I get the game on steam (ive heard its better) and lose my progress, or buy the game for xbox? I was about level(?) 30 if i remember correctly, and I had Tao .

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Reply ping please

proud needle
spring socket
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@thorny parcel justice projectile seem to bugged. The legendary inscription -40 base dmg, fire 3 grenades less aoe counts for the initial shot then any add projectile counts as 1 not as 3

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So if u have that inscription with plus 1 projectile u shoot 4 smaller balls not 6

thorny parcel
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Interesting.

spring socket
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Which is a hella nerf for dmg

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-40 for 4 projectile compare to 6

bronze willow
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Yis, it only count the middle projectile
if u got projectile +0,2, u get 5

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not exactly a fan of the exclusive inscription, the spread is quite big which i dont like

spring socket
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Okay but the additional projectile get converted to smaller aoe and loose dmg

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Which they shouldn't

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Either the additional projecile should be normal fmg and aoe (im 100% sure they have no clue how to code 2 different projectiles at once) or they need tk make the projectile work the way i mentioned before

proud fable
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The additional projectile is an exact copy of the middle projectile

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if the middle projectile has smaller AOE and less damage, then so will the additional projectile

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the inscription says you will get 1 more projectile, and now you're upset that you got that 1 projectile?

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By your logic, shotguns should then get +a bajillion projectiles because thats how many they fire originally

tacit current
#

how exactly does it work? is it only healing a third of my damage that I took or is it 30% of my damage heals me?

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as in I get shot, lose a bunch of hp. I deal dmg and regain a third of the dmg I took. (time past dependant)
Or im damaged, deal damage and get healed 30% of the damage i dealt. (not time past dependent)

thorny parcel
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30% of your missing HP is healed.

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Jesus christ, if you could heal 30% of the damage you dealt, that would make it way more overpowered than it used to be, and it used to fully heal you with practically every shot!

proven sage
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na, it has a cooldown now

thorny parcel
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Fair. I mean, what's 10 times the power if you already hit the maximum healing it can do?

proven sage
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was it 3% before?

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lets say you have 200 hp about, you only need about 7k per hit to cap healing

thorny parcel
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Was 3% before.

tacit current
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thank you

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btw what happens if you take a weapon out of the arsenal and die without imprinting it?

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do you just lose the weapon?

lapis gorge
#

Does anyone have a build for using the Brick? Or is it just, Brick+Strike Wing with Lei Luo sniper build?

cloud rain
#

I wonder how does the ZiXiao_Icon owl (Zi Xiao) play like?

cloud rain
#

Gunfire Reborn's 2 weapon limit reminds me of Halo's 2 weapon limit (excluding Foundry). The characters can only carry 2 weapons like a HALO Spartan.

thorny parcel
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Average owl card build.

spring socket
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Looks like before lone wolf tbh

thorny parcel
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Lone Wolf came way before Owl did.

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Not that it does anything to the Pole Monarch fight. It doesn't boost health, he has no minions for Lone Wolf to increase the number of, no attacks that get stronger based purely on player count, and the clones are multiplayer exclusive.

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Only thing Lone Wolf would actually do is give you an extra blessing, give you extra copper from defeating extra enemies, and maybe give you extra kill stacks. This just makes Pole Monarch easier.

cloud rain
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Playing Gunfire Reborn with a custom playlist of music be like:

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Got my XMPlay at the top right.

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What an inconvinient spot to have a Vault...

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Elite Bettle LAGGED ME HARD

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The Elite Bettle lagged my Acer Inspire 3 with a RYZEN 3 really hard.

high whale
#

How good is an illusion with 100% accuracy + the range bonus+ rof on crits and extra crit damage on crits

thorny parcel
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Very solid, I'd imagine.

lavish lily
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Very accurate

ruby oasis
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Very crit damage

cloud rain
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How do I open my squad to others?

bronze willow
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People can join your lobby by putting in the squad ID here

cloud rain
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Thank ye!
Also, this is what running other things on top of Gunfire Reborn while you wait for people to join you looks like:

tacit current
#

can you complete lei (the lightining snow lepard?) border after picking up a non sniper weapon?

silent osprey
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yes, it won't void the border condition by just holding them. you just cannot damage/hit an enemy with it.