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[thorny basalt]

This happens to me regularly
If anything, SA is more of a sink.

[quartz current]

I tried having it on for the first time this week and I don't like how it sacrifices vault scroll rewards either. So I just keep it off.

Granted around that point a single scroll is probably not going to make/break the run. But I still want it

[lament kettle]

where do you find enhanced elite monsters?

[bitter ginkgo]

Mysterious Jokul

It makes all elites enhanced

[lament kettle]

ah ok

close to all base game acheevs

anyone down for a reincarnated mysterious jokul run

[proud fable]

Jeff I see why you love rainbow

I'm doing the rainbow portion of my challenge and I have like 500% lucky shot and spores

And I never have to reload bc skateboarder

I'm just holding click and letting everything die

[bitter ginkgo]

Energy Draining Li is my new fav build in the game

[proven sage]

it makes funny vaults tho

[proud fable]

It doesn't even because the demonic aura can drop scrolls

but I still don't take it for the lack of 3-3 vault chest (I don't hit act 4 vaults)

I should by all means be taking it because I'll probably get more than one scroll from the demonic aura challenges but god damnit I want my 3-3 chest

[proven sage]

its fun to save cool guns you’ve had

[royal plinth]

im the Jokul baby

[violet night]

can you crossplay with gamepass and playstation, probably not right?

[proud needle]

Nope

[hearty patrol]

hello?

[bitter ginkgo]

Hello

[proud needle]

https://tenor.com/view/tammy-and-the-t-rex-trex-dinosaur-dino-payphone-gif-21620440

[delicate goblet]

if you have the element-sharing gemini with two weapons of the same element, does it increase their effect chance?

[proud needle]

nope

it copies element and chance of the other weapon

[delicate goblet]

so if the chances are different it swaps them?

[proud needle]

no , it copies

weapon a has chance to trigger the element of B with chance pf B

[delicate goblet]

i think that's what i meant by swaps

[proud needle]

it doesnt swap

they have both at the same time

swap means one goes away

a star devourer with aura of venom

the devourer has then a 10% shock chance and a 40% decay chance

[delicate goblet]

so if both elements are fire and they have a 5% and 30%, there are two separate proc chances to give the fire effect?

[proud needle]

yes

one 5% and one 30%

[delicate goblet]

huh, I guess that makes sense

I was hoping to get a broken combo with a fire Laser Glove and Flame Calling

I guess 30% is still good

[lament kettle]

anyone want to play some msyterious jokul reincarnated?

[proud fable]

-lfg

[kindred mauve]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[bitter ginkgo]

Hello friends

[velvet hamlet]

heyo

[exotic cobalt]

I've said it before (verbally) and I'll say it again (visibly): Transcendent Arsenal should do ONE of the following
1 - Puts a second chest (or changes the first chest) for the arsenal to pick 3 random weapons from the arsenal to be shown. For every 3 weapons you have in the arsenal, 1 random will be picked (if you have 8 weapons in the arsenal, the chest will only spit out 2 weapons to choose from, 4 weapons? 1. Every 3 = 1 more choice, up to a maximum of 3 weapons to choose from) to show for selection. You get it off the very beginning as +0, with all inscriptions, and can only save it if you spend essence banking it in one of the first 2 encounters of the bank, or for free at jokul if you beat the entire game.
2 - Puts the Arsenal individual at the beginning near the waterfall, just like the Blessing boi. You can pick out any weapon you want, you cannot bank anything at the beginning. Taking out a weapon comes up with a prompt to ensure you cannot accidentally pull it out (if the game disbands (or you quit in singleplayer) prior to leaving the room, all banked-weapon changes revert - just like soul essence for refreshing/buying blessings). However, you can never save the weapon back again in your run for yourself - Ever. You can however allow teammates to take the weapon and bank it for their future runs.

#1 Incentivizes players to bring a mix of items that can suit multiple builds, without giving them a weapon they're going to keep and use over and over till the end of time so safely. Dying prior to the first arsenal encounter will end the weapon's life with the player (if they lose the run that is).
#2 incentivizes players to plan ahead for another run, without RNG like #1, the players can safely choose what weapon they want to help their future run. However, you always won't find the god sniper or god melee you're looking for - but maybe within the run you'll find a god smg or injector for bunny. This will allow you to save that weapon (or a pair of weapons, geminis are included) to help the next run. You can't save that very weapon for another run, but you can use that run to help you find solid weapons to help you start off future runs.

I honestly hope that something like that happens in higher difficulties at least. Arsenal is near useless... at best I pull out a crit gemini weapon, or an elemental share gemini weapon... and that's if it's even useful.

But with something like those ideas, we can actually put some care into saving weapons just so they actually help off the bat and not when I'm 2 bosses away from finishing the run with either a skill build that doesn't care for the weapon's level, or a weapon that's already >+20

[thorny basalt]

I don’t think many people are gonna read that phat wall of text

[violet night]

what happens when you have moldy buns (random bun healing) and gourmet (full bun healing)

[proud needle]

IIRC curses apply last

[violet night]

ty

[bitter ginkgo]

I’m just glad I get to use my beautiful Flowing Light again in the future

[lament kettle]

so close to 100% base game acheevs

[lament kettle]

why can't you use flowing light now

[bitter ginkgo]

I just have a triple legendary one in my arsenal that I love

[lament kettle]

ooo send a screenshot

you can take it out during the third act and you get to store it again as long as you don't die, right?

Why was the NA LFG channel locked

[exotic cobalt]

it was? o -o

[proud needle]

It was reborn

In short : you all made it too fat with people lurking and never posting again

Discord has a stupid 1k unique talker limit in a channel

why we havent hit this here in general is beyond me

but we couldnt join new people in there

Not even mods or admins

So again

Piscord being drunk

half baked features is nothing we arent new to

[proud fable]

This channel only has like

450 lmao

Goes to show how many people come in here for lfg and nothing else

[proud needle]

It was just NA

only that channel

[proud fable]

Ik

1k people in lfg and less than 500 in all platforms

[fickle relic]

wait wait wait wait

gunfire reborn is on mobile now?

[thorny parcel]

Has been for ages.

[exotic cobalt]

"Gunfire reborn is on mobile?" "Always has been"

[proud needle]

Nah

We had people go full „Moon Landing is fake“ equivalent here

Saying mobile was fake because the test versions were not public

[proud fable]

The devs are just letting someone make thousands of dollars off their game on mobile!1!11!!1!!

Even though it's the exact same art style, weapons, characters, and the devs are the same in the credits!

[proud needle]

not that

flat out denial

[thorny parcel]

"Mobile doesn't exist. If it did you would tell us stuff."
"Dude, everyone in the test version has literally signed a confidentiality agreement. We cannot tell you about it."
"Yeah yeah whatevs. Proof or you're a liar."

[exotic cobalt]

Why do I feel like this game on a phone would... ||sorta suck||? ... Like... on PC I find it incredibly difficult as certain characters to back the hell away from Lu when he goes into "I'mma come up and slam, and welcome to the jam" 8 times in a row

how the hell would it work on a phone? . ,.

Also what do they expect people to do when Lu does that? It's near guaranteed he's going to hit you with 2 of the slams unless you ensured never to harm the pillars. As bird ye can leap away, as Tiger you can speed up with ability - but wtf you gonna do a dog? Hold 2 guns? .- .

[thorny parcel]

It's got autofiring.

You don't need to shoot your gun, just aim and move.

And occasionally press the skill button.

[exotic cobalt]

I can't fully wrap my head around how this works. Is this (for maximum benefit): Get to level 31, purposely go down, revive yourself with essence.
Or is it - Get to level 31, Gain weapon and Skill damage for every essence revive you've not used, do not die.

I guess I could just play a run with it and see if it pops up as a buff icon... Here's to hoping it does.

[proven sage]

don’t down

[velvet hamlet]

the controls are surprisingly really good and well thought out

plus some things are tweaked from the steam version

like the game is a just a lil bit easier

an extra revive, some weapon changes, etc.

and ofc you can use a controller + there's autofire

[lament kettle]

Anyone have a lei luo spiritual assault rocket launcher build?

[proven sage]

sounds like you have a idea about it

[lament kettle]

idk this 20 spiritual blessings achievement is kicking my butt

trying to find a way to win with lei luo

[proven sage]

R1 Lone wolf 2 with Overconsumption start

and you won

[lament kettle]

i'm talking about spiritual assault game mode

[echo tinsel]

Just got the first DLC, what exactly is the general gameplan for the characters? (Xing Zhe & Li)

[quaint valve]

...This wasn't planned I swear

[quaint valve]

Uh?????

Why the heck does this Tiger Cannon have a magazine of 263????

[warped quiver]

[rose talon]

check your spiritual links

[warped quiver]

whuuuuuut

[quaint valve]

I thought there was a % in that

[rose talon]

you have the link that gives +100 magazine capacity to launchers
101 * 2.6 = 262.6 =263

[quaint valve]

Got dang

Well this is a little insane

[warped quiver]

oh that's badass

[rose talon]

2.6 because
+60% magazine and + 100% magazine =+1.6 magazine =x2.6 magazine

[quaint valve]

...Time to grab the magazine link gemini

[rose talon]

it's only active while held

[quaint valve]

Oh I know

It'll be to boost the tiger cannon

[rose talon]

ah

Now you'd wish you had this, no

[quaint valve]

That's gonna be a ~+200% damage boost

And the best part of this? I have Against The Flow.

[rose talon]

free

[quaint valve]

Who needs to reload ever right?

[rose talon]

btw does anyone know if the values from enhanced weapons and the values from inscriptions are additive or multiplicative?
In particular
the damage from fierce enhancement and from the +40% damage -50% accuracy
and the projectiles from multiple enhancement and the Hell unique +30% projectile

[quaint valve]

One Dog Army is turning out to be a much more fun build than I thought.

I just shot down Dragon Quian in two hits.

[still jacinth]

Now you understand the power

[quaint valve]

I still prefer dual wield, but. God damn.

I turned this dog from Salvador to Axton.

[still jacinth]

you gotta try dual wield with bricks

it's the best

[quaint valve]

I'm playing Reincarnation 8 btw

[lavish lily]

So First Strike anything

[lament kettle]

i'm such a nerd

just got all base game acheevs

[lament kettle]

what is this build

[quaint valve]

It's a Reincarnation build for Ao Bai based on the One Dog Army blessing. Ton of buffs when not dual wielding.

...Not as much damage as I expected

[proud needle]

https://tenor.com/view/want-it-all-now-queen-i-want-it-all-gif-14505263

[rose talon]

seems it's additive

[rose talon]

Interesting.
Even a big hippo with the max value expanded enhancement and both magazine inscriptions would still have 7 magazine less than this tiger cannon

[proven sage]

which ones?

[quaint valve]

Dayum

[proven sage]

when you could do it on both

[rose talon]

I tested it with the magazine capacity one but I think it's the same on all

[rose talon]

wait it does apply on both even when you only hold one?

[proven sage]

before it did, now no

[rose talon]

ah alright

Cause I'm setting out on quest to achieve the largest possible magazine in the game

[proven sage]

252 is the highest i've seen

[rose talon]

If my calculations are right then 658 should be the max

[proven sage]

Hippo/Star Ring/Lightning Glove

i could count it

943 mag size

[rose talon]

Huh? How'd you get that number

[proven sage]

a 252 hippo as gemini

[rose talon]

252x2 is not 943

[proven sage]

Shark with +100 mag, +60% insc, +100% insc, +60% Enhanced. x2 Surplused

[rose talon]

wait doesn't surplus only work once?

also you forgot bun bun's +30%

You'd have 658 ammo normally and 658+657=1315 with the surplus one

because you can't actually trigger a reload without expending at least one ammo

actually you can't do that.
You need reserve ammo to reload and overfill the magazine.
since you have max 160 heavy ammo you could increase it to 320 with the scroll but that still would not reach the 658 you need to fully reload.

Only with normal ammo can you hold enough in reserve to reload such a massive magazine.
So it actually is 2 optimal big hippos surplussed for

{[80 * (1+0.6+0.6+1+0.3)] * 2} * 2 - 1 = 1119 magazine

[proven sage]

surplus ignores the gemini

and you can just Against the Flow to get full mag

[rose talon]

Against the flow can only fill to max. And the max is determined by how much you can load into the weapon at once

[proven sage]

nope (it doesn't care if you can actually fill it or not)

[rose talon]

so the inscription just adds whatever is already in the magazine as extra capacity?

[lament kettle]

hey so does anyone have a good rocket launcher build?

[proud fable]

For lei luo?

Best I can think of is to get the shrieker and then go crit build

bc shrieker can actually crit

but I have no idea bc lei luo isn't made for rocket launchers

just do one run launcher build and one lei

[gusty mountain]

🤔

[proud fable]

OOPS

[proud fable]

you saw nothing

[proven sage]

Counter violence solves that

[proud fable]

yes

But I think they wanted SA build

for achievement

[lavish lily]

Yea, coz he was made for Wild Hunt

[bitter ginkgo]

Pupil Gang

[violet night]

whats the difference betweent he damage colors, like the white, yellow, gold, and purple

[proud needle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/656702579702759424/942411429716328458/Damage_Chart.png?width=832&height=468

[lavish lily]

It seems to me that everything is not so simple with the yellow color, I have seen it a few times, I do not suffer from the lack of aim. Well, or in the game there is also a yellow color, which is not as yellow as our yellow.

[violet night]

whats the odds of getting a crit? or is only on headshots

[proud needle]

Only weakspots

And yellow is crit only , no other source

Period

[lavish lily]

Crit and lucky shot? Lucky shot and double tap?

one is crit, yellow, 100%. What is the other one? 🙂

[proud needle]

ORANGE

You have double tap

[proud needle]

Again

Double tap

That Double Tap doesnt apply dmg boosts correctly is another thing

But you have Double Tap causing two dmg instances of which each can roll lucky shot on their own

[lavish lily]

I mean one crit hit is yellow+yellow, other is yellow+orange

[proud needle]

Yes

DOUBLE TAP

Thats your second hit

The first did lucky shot and crit in the first

so douple tap did that as well with the dmg applied

The second one was no lucky shot

so you have two crit hits

[lavish lily]

Hm

It seems like my brain just ignores the start of the game when lucky shots are less than 100%. And there really is yellow in the game

[proud fable]

Poor cryorus lmao

[plush hill]

I would like to buy this game, I have written a lot of feedback both on the steam forum and via email and never received a response. Will cold ever be implemented in the game? It doesn't necessarily have to slow down the target, maybe making him more vulnerable to impact/physical attacks is already something.

[violet night]

That would require an entire change to game functinality, so most likely not?

just to clarify when a scroll says damage, thats weapon dmg and skill dmg right? like the scroll "bluff

[lament kettle]

no i just want a good launcher build. idk how to build for it and i haven't done a launcher run before

what other shooter has that element

so dramatic lol just tell us what games

[proud needle]

Lol

Just say Borderlands and the answer wont change I am afraid

[violet night]

i.. what is happening

[lament kettle]

just someone afraid to "break the rules"

[bitter ginkgo]

Bending rules is where it’s at

[proud fable]

Just play dog and prioritize explosion enhancement

With a tiger cannon or bone dragon

[lament kettle]

but i thought lei luo was the explosion specialist

there's that loading screen where they have a launcher

[proud fable]

Lei luo is the crit guy

[proud fable]

Thats just for art

[lament kettle]

is it a mortar build i'm confusing it with?

[proud fable]

Nope

Like bird is not good with a golden bow

[plush hill]

I am not here to advertise

[proud fable]

he's a melee/shotgun guy

Cat has no synergy with dragon chaser

he's an element guy

[bitter ginkgo]

Maybe I am!

[proud fable]

Tao has no synergy with poisonous ghost

she's a SMG girl

Qian sui has no synergy with icy spear

he's a tank guy

[lament kettle]

no one thinks you're advertising bro. not like you're a paid representative of a company. we're all gamers here

[proud fable]

Nona has no synergy with wolf gaze

she's a pistol girl

[lament kettle]

ok i get it i get it

[proud fable]

Lmao

[lament kettle]

speaking of crit builds. i got a 14.3 crit x lucky golden bow last night and it was glorious

[proud fable]

I think all of em except for dog and maybe owl aren't right

[plush hill]

I just came here to get an answer from the developers, but I see that they are never present

[bitter ginkgo]

They’re all wrong, because nobody is using a cavalry, which is a weapon that I like more than other weapons

I can’t believe they didn’t ask me first

[lament kettle]

i like the cavalry too

[bitter ginkgo]

Ah, quite cultured I see

Petition to give the Calvary a chargeable alt fire that turns it fully automatic temporarily

I need skill trick stacks, and I don’t want to keep swapping to throw fire pizza every 10 seconds!

[lament kettle]

the alt fire of the cavalry is just a straight upgrade

make that the primary and secondary allow charged auto?

[bitter ginkgo]

It’ll be funny

Or give it a noob tube LOL

[proud fable]

cavalry = mid

[bitter ginkgo]

I never said otherwise

[topaz bay]

hi

[bitter ginkgo]

Hello BrightEyes

I like your name

[topaz bay]

thanks

[bitter ginkgo]

But anyways, I’m working on a 12 page essay on why the Calvary is the best weapon in the game

[topaz bay]

[bitter ginkgo]

🫡

Just doing god’s work

[topaz bay]

i dont even know most stuff about this game so uhh

[bitter ginkgo]

Don’t listen to anything I say

[topaz bay]

have fun i guess

[bitter ginkgo]

And you’ll be golden

[topaz bay]

alrighty

[lament kettle]

That sweet sweet crit x

[tacit magnet]

I've got a quick little question

After this Roadmap is finished this game isn't like done getting updates or anything right?

[bitter ginkgo]

I don’t think so

We always get new roadmaps

(If I recall correctly)

[tacit magnet]

Alright awesome cause me and a group of friends just got into the game (We have about 20-21 hours so far) and we love it

[bitter ginkgo]

Gunfire is my 2nd fav game of all time

2k hours and I’m still learning and seeing new things 😄

[tacit magnet]

My personal tier list

Nona would be S and the Owl would be B

[atomic junco]

they really need to redo the sounds for the big hippo

has to be the most pathetic minigun i've ever used in a game

[tacit magnet]

SHHH

THAT'S MY FAVORITE GUN

[atomic junco]

you can barely hear the shots over the hit sounds lmao

[tacit magnet]

The Big Hippo and the Wolfs Gaze

[atomic junco]

feels like i'm spitting at the enemy instead of firing a heavy gun

[tacit magnet]

I'm sure you have played more than me but like

It feels so good late game especially when its got Lucky Shots and increased RoF

[atomic junco]

you're talking about the weapon itself

i'm just saying they need to redo the sounds

it's a fine gun statistically

[lament kettle]

crit builds are fun af omg

[tacit magnet]

Tao Lucky Shot/Infinite Shield Build is what i do

Cause the swords give her more max shield so i just pick up all shield items and lucky shot items pretty much

[lament kettle]

yea i could probably optimize it but i'm too busy having fun with my double caliber that has a strike wing enhancement

[tacit magnet]

Fair enough

[lament kettle]

https://streamable.com/c9yito

[violet night]

can someone put the "Occult Maestro into layman's terms for me?

[proud needle]

Scrolls that deal dmg deal more dmg

so thorny carapace

thunder screen

scrolls that explicitly say „deals dmg“

[thorny parcel]

Except for Explosive Bullets, Giant Slayer, Rich's Privileges and maybe Explosive Magazine, the latter 2 being actually useful and the main reason why that talent would be useful too.

[violet night]

so not something like spirit bible

[proud fable]

That can deal damage to enemies

[violet night]

so it does work on stuff like that?

oh you mean something like the thunder dash?

[proud needle]

Yes

the skill bible only increases skill dmg dealt

The talent increases the BASE dmg

[violet night]

okay so its not very good?

[proud needle]

its a mix

increasing base dmg is powerful

but the scrolls this would be helpful it doesn’t affect

so far

[violet night]

that increase the base damage of my skill then, so the spirit swords would start out with 4x the damage?

[proud needle]

No

Scrolls that deal dmg are affected

not your skills

[violet night]

k

ty

[proud needle]

Only those scrolls down there

[violet night]

oh its really not very good then

[proud needle]

Thunder Screen and Step, Thorny Carapace and Blazing Loop

Those are the scrolls affected

why the others aren’t affected we cant say , possibly an oversight

But that would make them actually useful

Giant Slayer is nice but the dmg cap is a liability in higher difficulty

[thorny parcel]

And Nirvana Force, actually.

[proud needle]

Ahh that one does ?

[thorny parcel]

Was in a bug fix.

Though just like the other scrolls it affects, Nirvana Force isn't that great for damage.

Because you have to play multiplayer AND get downed alot for it to be effective.

[proud needle]

Ohhh that reminds me

The new Blessing can give you Mp scrolls

Solo

Luckily I was running Zi Xiao so I could reroll them

but as any other that would have been actually bad

Blessing slot used and dead scrolls

[thorny parcel]

That's 100% a bug.

[proud needle]

Yup

[proud fable]

or nona

Thats my only pitch to the whole conversation

[thorny parcel]

Unless Nona gets multiplayer scrolls in singleplayer, I don't think it matters.

[proud fable]

For nirvana force?

[thorny parcel]

Yeah, unless you can actually get Nirvana Force normally in singleplayer, which wouldn't make sense.

[proud fable]

Ohh you can't get it singleplayer?

oops

[thorny parcel]

Considering it's a damage effect when you get knocked down (run-ending in single player) and buffs to teammates, I'd hope so.

[proud fable]

idk

Devs make mistakes

and also its not run ending in singleplayer bc you get 1 essence revive :D

[thorny parcel]

I know. They often appear in the form of buffs.

[proud fable]

And nerfs to the weakest character in the game

[lament kettle]

has the DLC ever gone on sale

[thorny parcel]

I believe the first one was recently on sale.

[violet night]

is the game balanced between single and multiplayer?

[quartz current]

You might get different opinions on that based on recent critiques. That said, most people that have been around for a while and have played a lot will tell you both modes are playable.

All characters can succeed in both single and multi-player just fine, and there's ways to scale your power in both too.

Many people will mention multi-player revive chaining to be OP, myself being one. Solo play requires you to be much more tactful as you only get one revive (unless you're playing Nona I guess)

[violet night]

ok, so its really doesnt matter?

[quartz current]

Nah, not really. Play whatever you find most fun. I do a bit of both, but mainly solo.

[violet night]

kk, ive mainly been playing multiplayer so far, just a little in solo, but im on gamepass so the bugs in multiplayer have been annoying

[quartz current]

Ah, yeah, that does change a few things. I'm on Steam. But the version gamepass is on currently is a version I played a ton back when it was Steam's version too.

So yeah everything I said still applies.

[still jacinth]

I don't particularly care about balance for this game, given it's a strictly PvE game

If my brother is dealing 20 fricktillion damage more than me, great! put him in the front, and I'll be close behind, taking out Technicians and Stalkers with my mighty Brick

[violet night]

yea thats not what im worried about, thats usually whats happens in my expierence anyways, i was just wondering if like having 4 ppl makes the game baby easy in comparison to one or something

[still jacinth]

I believe there is some kind of balancing. A boss in a 4 player game would have proportionately more health than that same boss in a Solo run

[quartz current]

It's easier in the sense it's harder to lose in multi-player due to the revive system, but solo play is more rewarding when you win imo. Plus it makes you a better player as you learn to play smarter.

Of course playing with friends is a good time regardless. Ultimately everyone has their own ways to have fun with the game and that's what counts.

the Foundry only people are lunatics tho

[bitter ginkgo]

Only because the Foundry isn’t the Calvary

[neon locust]

does acid dominance work with upgrades like hex smoke

[bitter ginkgo]

You mean acid dominance 3’s Q proc?

[neon locust]

yeah

[quartz current]

It should act like a regular grenade and therefore consider any buffs that would regularly affect grenades or debuffs they inflict, Hex Smoke included.

[neon locust]

prince is so op then

besides the other reasons he is op of course

[quartz current]

He's in my top 3 in terms of fun. I just enjoy that he can succeed in a lot of different ways to play the game.

Skill builds? Check.
Big hits? Check.
Rapid fire? Check.
Utility? Check.
Elemental? Obviously.

[neon locust]

crown prince + sword/glove is just insane

breezed through spiritual assault with 319M dmg at the end because of it

[quartz current]

The only downside is his default movespeed

[neon locust]

thats fair fs

[thorny parcel]

And lack of major Steam/Mobile exclusive "benefits".

[maiden isle]

Algm é BR?

[lament kettle]

try the spiritual blessing that gives 3 energy orbs that split apart. that one goes so crazy with the right ascensions

if you get teh ascension where energy orbs have a second, third, and fourth chance to explode, it goes nuts

[quartz current]

I'm well aware. Energy Orb go brrrrrrrr
https://youtu.be/aTEvgJSoaFw

[lament kettle]

awesome

what's giving the orb reset?

i built 3 orbs instead

also i didn't know max essence was 25k

[gusty mountain]

Splinter Orb blessing.

[tacit magnet]

Can anyone gimme a little advice?

I was wondering what's some good inscriptions to look for on the Rainbow Arch

[thorny parcel]

CritX and its own exclusives.

[tacit magnet]

Appreciated

[cerulean flower]

Can anyone tell me what this number does vom Zi xiao https://prnt.sc/tQgp-VUeyqF5 ?

the red number under the Q

[thorny parcel]

Reserve cards. They replace your cards held out in front of you as they're used.

[cerulean flower]

Ah alright cool, thank you

[cerulean flower]

Whats the best way to get soul essence as fast as possible?

[proud fable]

grind R8 LW4

[exotic cobalt]

Petition to demote Unfettered Will to Rare

Unfettered Will does not deserve to be legendary.

[thorny parcel]

*re-demote Unfettered Will to Rare.

Yeah, I dunno why they buffed+nerfed its effect and increased its quality to be honest.

Wasn't exactly a spectacular rare scroll anyway.

[proud fable]

signed

its always gonna be a marginal DMG increase

[cerulean flower]

@proud fable What did you mean by "LW4" btw ?

Im pretty new to the game ^^

[proud fable]

Lone wolf 4

Its a bizarre dream modifier

[cerulean flower]

Ah okay, does the 4 mean the mobs and stuff are as strong as if it would be a 4 man party or ?

Ah probably right, since it says 4 player count

[proud fable]

It only buffs enemy spawns

and I think boss health

[cerulean flower]

Ah okay

[proud fable]

Which is why its best for grinding

more enemies = more essence

[cerulean flower]

Could you explain what the "mysterious jokul" thing exactly is ? Because it says it makes the enemies in Hyperborean jokul more powerful, isnt that only a negative effect tho or is there any bonus to it ?

[proud fable]

yes theres a big benefit

mysterious jokul guarantees that there will be an "elite gathering" on the last room of 2-3, 3-3, and 4-2

Elite gatherings on lone wolf 4 consist of 5 elites

and once you kill all 5, you get 10 weapons, 1 golden goblet, and 1 legendary scroll

[cerulean flower]

Ah okay cool thats sick

[proud fable]

ye

But if you plan on using a really weak build, the gathering can be a complete run-ender

[cerulean flower]

Hyperborean jokul was the third stage/map or whatever you call it, right ?

[proud fable]

4th

[cerulean flower]

Ah

[proud fable]

the 3rd act is duo fjord

[cerulean flower]

Ah yeah true

Is there like any list of builds for each character somewhere on the discord? Because im not really sure what i should be playing when i try out a new character i just take whatever i think its the best?

[proud fable]

Not really

However you can just go to the official wiki

and find a character

this is on xing zhes page

[cerulean flower]

Oh okay

thank you

[proud fable]

Ye np

[cerulean flower]

How can i unlock the spiritual remnant in the last zone btw ?

[silent osprey]

the act 4 spiritual remnant cannot be interacted with, unless you have mysterious jokul active.

[cerulean flower]

Ah okay thanks

[gusty mountain]

It doesn't affect hp

[proud fable]

Not even boss hp?

huh ok

[proud fable]

I know it didnt affect normal enemy hp

I think I just only play r8 lw4 or r1 lw2 so I just noticed boss hp difference and pin it on change in reincarnation level and on increase in lw

[gusty mountain]

r1 vs r8

[proud fable]

ye

I just thought it was both instead of just reincarnation

idk

[thorny parcel]

Could've been Mysterious Jokul that was confusing you, as that actually does increase HP.

Exclusive to Hyperborean Jokul though, and all elites by proxy of another effect.

For the heck of it, I decided to do the numbers.

With Mysterious Jokul active, Hyperborean gets +12.5% HP on R1, and +25.7% HP on R7+8.

Additionally, all elites regardless of act gain between +100% and +500% HP, depending on the enhancements given. Hyperborean Jokul elites end up with between +125% and +754.4% HP in total.

[bitter ginkgo]

WHen you have a great run but get literally stuck inside of a tree so you insta-lose

[thorny parcel]

Protip: No matter how much your base instincts urge you to, climbing a tree to rest and watch for prey below is not a good idea when getting shot at.

[bitter ginkgo]

That's solid advice, thank you

[lament kettle]

anyone have any unconventional builds they want to share?

[bitter ginkgo]

Hmm

Skip every goblet and only use Calvary

[lament kettle]

lol

oh also does anyone know the best gemini for the sword? I'm using the fire sword

[bitter ginkgo]

I like share elements

With a high % corrosion weapon

[hoary sparrow]

if you start a game with 4 people but 1 leaves

does the scaling drop to 3 people or stay at 4?

[silent osprey]

the scaling will drop but I don't know when it does so. either "on the next stage" or "on the start of the next act".

[hoary sparrow]

thank you

[lament kettle]

i love kicking things over and over and they just get destroyed

[bitter ginkgo]

You mean in game right

[primal sleet]

new character is fun

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s gunfire equivalent of Dora

[south ingot]

Lf players ps5

[gusty mountain]

-lfg

[kindred mauve]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[violet night]

What are the stacks when you die? like what does that do?

[thorny parcel]

Reduces your bleed out timer when you're downed the next time.

[violet night]

is that really it?

[thorny parcel]

Yes.

[violet night]

wow thanks

[lament kettle]

has anyone tried to get the highest weapon level? what is it?

like by using the arsenal and just upgrading it over and over through acts 3 and 4

[thorny parcel]

Arsenal resets weapon levels to be the same as the weapons dropped in that act.

[lament kettle]

it would be a grind... 12 levels per run unless you get the extra level 33% chance scroll

no way

[bitter ginkgo]

They do

Sadly

[thorny parcel]

Good thing though, otherwise the Mysterious Jokul modifier would be pretty much a complete joke.

Just pull out your +3486 Deafening Mortar with mag share and consumes all ammo to fire shells inscriptions.

[tacit magnet]

Has there been any conformation from the devs that there are more updates after this roadmap?

Me and my friend have been super worried since we got into this game that it could die or be done after this roadmap is over cause its so niche

We love the game and really wanna keep playing it and hope that there is a lot more content in the future for us

[bitter ginkgo]

I really don’t think it’s gonna die anytime soon at all

Game goes undeniably hard

[thorny parcel]

Roadmap says "more to come" right at the end.

[hoary sparrow]

what build do I go on cat to do dmg like to get +1b dmg

[thorny parcel]

Pyrodominance Fire Tower build, most likely.

[tacit magnet]

So is Nona like the strongest character in the game?

[thorny parcel]

Depends on who you ask.

[tacit magnet]

Fair enough, She seems the easiest to make really good

[thorny parcel]

Some people say she's the strongest because you can set Iron Wing to missile everything without you needing to do much.

Other people say she's not strong because her scaling is weaker at the end.

Certain others say she's the strongest because you can infinitely revive in solo where you can normally only die once.

And some others disregard that because it doesn't count for much in multiplayer, so she's less offensively orientated and so isn't strong.

Really depends on who you ask.

[tacit magnet]

Fair! She actually saved me and my friends run just now

Iron Wing rez'd me over and over in the boat boss on Nightmare when my friend went down so we were able to win

[thorny parcel]

I think though I can safely say that most people agree that Nona is simply easy to play.

And similarly, she's easy to win with. You've got a lot of failsafes if you as a player make mistakes.

[tacit magnet]

True

[hoary sparrow]

how do you build it? like what starter spiritual blessing/main ascensions to look out/gemini and main weapon fire tower and whats the best 2nd weapon

[tacit magnet]

Any tips on playing the Owl?

He seems really complicated

[thorny parcel]

Get Fire Tower, get Pyrodominance 3. There's probably a bunch of more nuance things, like element effect spread inscriptions and movement speed being good. I dunno the specifics.

[thorny parcel]

Pick all the purple ascensions. The least complicated and possibly the most powerful build you can make with him.

Virtually don't have to worry about Astroaspects or anything else. Just spam cards.

[tacit magnet]

Understood

[visual imp]

that bird guy is so opium

[rose talon]

Moments like this make me realise how much people can underestimate the power of something when they don't know enough about the game

[thorny parcel]

It also puts into perspective who the devs are catering to when they do their next spiritual blessing buff update.

Expect a Radioactive Gauntlet buff on Mobile as it's released, thanks to that comment.

[violet night]

just got the game on steam, im loving the Wolf Gaze, is it as good as i think it is?

[bitter ginkgo]

Yes

That’s the blicky

Also, it’s objectively cool

[violet night]

yea im enjoying it alot

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s my 2nd fav SMG

[proud fable]

I just did the wolf gaze part of my challenge and I called it the chain reaction build because if you get lucky you can just fire 3 bolts into a crowd and everything perishes

[twin hollow]

Why not be here

[proud fable]

?

[tacit magnet]

Shield/Lucky Shot build Tao with a Wolf's Gaze and Big Hippo with Normal Ammo is insane

[proud fable]

Holy shit

just got 3 points of one ascension in 1 stage

one from blue chest, one from red, one from elite

1/216 to get the same ascension in 3 goblets

and idk the chances to get one from elite henchman

and idk the chances to get cursed scroll for golden goblet red chest

but it's not likely

Also, can someone test if dark face bandit crit spot is broken? I'm using a laser glove on them and I'm not critting

[bitter ginkgo]

I think it’s been bugged for a sec

I’ve experienced it

And as far as I’m concerned, I never miss!

[golden fog]

Peddler knew exactly what I needed for my build

[rough basin]

how does the game decide when you get a goblet from an elite and when you don't get one?

or is it chance perhaps

[bitter ginkgo]

Pretty sure it’s just RNG

But I could be wrong

[proven sage]

yesterday i got dmg cap in a foundry room with Ksana, shits whack

[thorny parcel]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[royal plinth]

[lavish marten]

did the mobile ports gets the wolf gaze gun or is that a new gun?

[proud needle]

thats Wolf Gaze

[lavish marten]

Ahh

[clever olive]

After being stuck at R6, finally made it thanks to Nona Cheese Build

[tacit magnet]

[bitter ginkgo]

The only cheese I need

Is a +0 Calvary with 1 green inscription

[proud fable]

I hate cavalry

I did a playthrough with it and it was strong

but I just hate it

not a fan of BARs and it's not unique in any way

[bitter ginkgo]

Listen

Your opinion is valid

But I will never not represent the Calvary Clique

[thorny parcel]

The Cavalry. Forever solid in a world of broken.

[tacit magnet]

The Arc Light has become my favorite weapon recently

[runic obsidian]

Anyone down to play some on mobile.

[thorny basalt]

Never thought of it that way before.
How is Calvary as a stand alone gun anyways? Is it’s auto crit function even useful or nah?

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s nice for a certain large lizard that doesn’t have a crit spot atm

And stuff that’s generally a pain to crit consistently without a scope

At least for me

[thorny parcel]

Its auto crit is a crutch, personally.

Sure it's nice when you can't land crits reliably or the weak spot is being blocked, like with Dark-fased Bandits, but in the hands of a skilled player you don't need it.

[bitter ginkgo]

I know I can’t aim to save my life 😄

Also

I just really enjoy the 3 round burst

And how standard it feels

I love it’s exclusive inscription, too

[thorny parcel]

Its exclusive also goes against its crutch-like gimmick.

Since you have to land crits with all 3 hits. If you can do that, you definitely don't need Cavalry's forced crit.

[thorny basalt]

Ah

[proud fable]

It's pretty strong, even without it's auto crit

If you just do a run as monke with it and get some decent rng you'll be blasting through enemies

[proud fable]

Holy shit altanna you spell 'cavalry' right

[thorny basalt]

I see. Is there anything that even makes it a strong gun if you disregard the auto crit? What about it makes it strong?

[proud fable]

Its gunfire reborn

[thorny basalt]

Fair

[proud fable]

Thats what makes it strong

It doesn't have anything unique apart from the burst and the auto crit, but it's still strong with some luck

[thorny basalt]

Conceptually, I like the Calvary but like
It synergies with so few heroes ;~;

[proud fable]

Yeah

We have monkey though

[thorny basalt]

Who knows, maybe they’ll make a hero who specializes in rifles

[proud fable]

He synergizes with, like, everything

[thorny basalt]

I’m surprised we got one that specializes in pistols

[proud fable]

At least in my experience

[thorny parcel]

Monke doesn't synergize with it either, not as well as other weapons.

[proud fable]

I've been using him on my injector runs

[thorny parcel]

He prefers pistols, shotguns, snipers, launchers and melee weapons.

Rifles, SMGs and injectors are not his favorites.

[proud fable]

No spores either

idk I did pretty well with a scalpel, jet octopus, laser glove, rainbow, rad glove, etc

[thorny parcel]

You could probably achieve just as much synergy by using Cat if it's elemental, or Dog.

[proud fable]

it is gfr tho

Dog would have even better synergy

Monkey shines through in his blessings though

[thorny parcel]

Hell, Bunny probably has more synergy with Cavalry.

[proud fable]

weapon mastery makes runs with smgs and injectors easy

[proud fable]

yes but with ascension fusion you just get ammo extractor or warlike blade

[thorny parcel]

That says less about the hero and more about the blatant powercreep new features in the game.

[proud fable]

yes but he makes it work even though he's not made for fast firing things

Doesn't matter that he makes it work because of the trillions of unbalances in gfr

[thorny parcel]

Really says something about the game if the bare minimum synergy makes it work.

Only thing that would probably make it not work is anti-synergy, like Tiger's sniper build.

[proud fable]

yeah

but theres like

none of that in the game

apart from those few exceptions

[runic obsidian]

What is the best way to level up fast

[thorny parcel]

Join multiplayer runs with Reincarnation 8 difficulty players, then let them carry you to victory.

If you prefer solo, do Reincarnation 1 instead. Pick some of the really overpowered stuff to start with, including Bizarre Dream modifiers.

If you don't have that, just repeat the highest difficulty you can without dying.

[runic obsidian]

Thanks

Anyone want to help me level up and carry me through some games

[proud fable]

-lfg

[kindred mauve]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[delicate goblet]

how do you know how far 1m is?

[thorny parcel]

Intuition.

[delicate goblet]

what's your intuition about how far the max range of the Star Ring is?

[thorny parcel]

Maybe 15 meters or so.

[rose tapir]

Qian Sui:

[exotic cobalt]

Can someone tell me why the hell his gun has corrosive on???

Am I missing something?

@thorny parcel Thoughts? Someone? I can't figure this out

[gusty mountain]

Did you have corrosion conversion equipped as well?

[exotic cobalt]

This is spiritual assault

[gusty mountain]

ik

[exotic cobalt]

He only had fire conversion (hence why I showed the jade)

no other jade of his has any affect on the gun's potential of elements... wtf?

Here's his full jade list

[gusty mountain]

Was it corrosion ingame?

[exotic cobalt]

???...

[gusty mountain]

during the run

[exotic cobalt]

What do you mean? ... It's fire conversion

this is from the results screen of the run

[gusty mountain]

ik

Was it like that during the run as well?

[exotic cobalt]

Yes

[gusty mountain]

probably a bug

[proud needle]

Do YOU have corrosion conversion ?

[exotic cobalt]

Don't know how that has anything to do with their weapon- but I suppose I'll have to go in the game to get a few images...
[Image 1]: To show the Spirit Concentrator. I have no L shape jade that is yellow.
[Image 2]: A close-up of the jades I'm using in the spirit concentrator itself.

[proud needle]

Instead of making a sassy remark it could have been a bug where a normal weapon is displayed with YOUR element shift

Keep watch of your tone

[exotic cobalt]

I'm trying to figure out why the hell this guy was causing combustion, and a ludicrous amount of damage. Also if there is sass - I guess that carried over from @gusty mountain , because you asking it in that way reminded me of what they were trying to ask

[proud needle]

That shoudlnt matter

No need to edge on others trying to help

I asked because it could have been a bug with display

[exotic cobalt]

How the hell would that work? it thinks I'm holding the weapon?... Granted the game is bugged rn - I have discovered 2-3 still currently in the game.

One is in issues, but in-game reports has someone replying "could you provide more details-" - I can't. I literally provided it all >:x

I don't know how it's possible to provide more details on the backfire bug.

I can't figure it out no matter how many times I look back on it. The build has trash left right and center, but the gun out-dps'd the whole lobby. The only thing I can figure is if the exclusive roll on the gun (even though it states it doesn't stack or count hits during the boost), stacks.

[gusty mountain]

That build isn't trash though.

It's "blessings" are pretty strong, they're using mag share which is total dmg on an arua with the proj inscription.

Basically also had infinite ammo

[proud needle]

Also Pyro 3 , and even if the weapon is just a display error and is fire

crown prince with pyro 3

[exotic cobalt]

He's multiplying 240, by 2 (Firearm), by 2.25 (Elemental amplifier), by 4.5 (guaranteed crits from bloody ammo proc'ing deadly counter), by 2 (Luckyshot), and by 4 (technically, due to projectile increase).. and somehow causing combustion with his gun giving corrosive (again, potential visual issue?)

[proud needle]

Also I see more luckyshot to be able to hit x4

[exotic cobalt]

With what? Bullet light... and casual?

I cannot envision that aura doing what the hell it did with what they obtained. I wouldn't doubt it if it had certain rolls, he had 3/3 acid to insta-proc corrossion with his (potentially fire) weapon... but what?

Is there some hidden multiplication I'm missing here?

[gusty mountain]

mag share does total dmg

[exotic cobalt]

ok, so he gets... what... 100-somethin' % more? ... 160k a shot give-or-take? I guess I also just noted the elemental procs on the gun should = the amount of times combustion truly triggered no?

since combustion must require an elemental proc from the gun to have it multiply what the gun did, he proc'd combustion only 162 times with a 3/3 pyrodominance build? ., .

This build just irritates my soul as to how, through the numbers, it says it was super effective. I'm about to just throw myself against a brick wall a few times in SA to see if it's that exclusive roll on the submachine gun... that's the only outlier I can see

Given the few bugs, maybe that's simply it. The exclusive roll stacks - then it just throws all this out of the water and goes "easy"

although how would I test that?.... grab 0 luckyshot scrolls and see if the gun proc's red numbers?

[proud needle]

Just a thing

You are obssessing with min maxing this too much

Maybe just let it go and let it be

You are edging on other about a build of someone else

[exotic cobalt]

I just like to see stuff make sense is all. Something's off about this.

[gusty mountain]

Not to mention all of that dmg bonus while using wildfire on an aura which has the highest rof in the game along with x3 proj.

[exotic cobalt]

True, but rank 1 wildfire. Nearly 75% of his ascensions assisted none of his damage... now that's not to say pyrodominance alone is just ludicrous (cause it is).. but he wasn't even going for proc'ing elements at this rate.

He proc'd what that 3/3 ascension assisted, 162 times

If you build pyrodominance, you usually don't shoot yourself in the damn foot to proc the very useful ascension

It's like he played cat as bunny... in a sense.

The first time I see someone use effective sweeper?... Reliable bun? and he dishes out this much?... If anything - this elemental cat dished out something Gordon Ramsay would yell, nothing but raw damage build on cat. So F it - gonna copy what good jades are on there and see if there's merit to removing elements as a choice yet dishing it out with raw. I'd also like to test someone bringing fire conversion (Which is the best conversion, mind you) and see if that somehow shows the wrong element. Not often do I see people bring that conversion. LFG I go

[exotic cobalt]

In true testing fashion, I have a conversion. I can't see the element, my teammates can't see the element (or any element), I have the exact same blessings, and yet I caused 1,000+ more elemental procs and killed 250+ less enemies. Something fishy going on, or a bug with 0 clue as to how it occurs (cause everything more-or-less is the exact same). Although this gun makes sense, I have learned 2 things. 1. Reliable bun is a bloody crutch to something like bloody ammo + fire enthusiast... and 2 - holy hell this is stupid. The scrolls I had and stacks of elite makes sense as to why this run could go as nutty as it did at least... but the biggest crutch is bloody ammo and reliable bun (with any form of healing). This whole damn thing revolves around bloody ammo. Without it, it's slow/impossible. But I will keep attempting to see if a run without it works well anyways.
TL;DR - Their gun still makes no sense, smgs are stupid with raw damage + bloody. Cat can be bunny.
This has been: Kev losing their mind over just a potential cheater and I really shouldn't look that deep into it after that. But the numbers are fun to crunch anyways, so oh well. .w.

[gusty mountain]

I have my doubts that bloody ammo played much of a role in that other player's build.

Your weapon can consume ammo much faster than theirs.

Theirs probably never got close to 0.

[exotic cobalt]

Second run, I cannot comprehend what is multiplying this. 50 stacks of elite assassin this run, but still... No hawkeye, no merciless this run yet dished 1.2m+ more damage than that previous run. I simply cannot figure out what chain of multiplication is causing this gun to output 18,197x its base damage.

1.2m+ on a singular hit* - of the smg.

nvm it's just a bajillion multiplications, I missed fire shard factoring 'n potential elemental relic. This is stupid. This is actually stupid. I thought it was lazy seeing a monkey just press cudgel to melt a map - this build is lazier than a pyro in TF2. At least a pyro needs to think about hitting the back with their phlog or reflecting something.

And on another note- the dark-faced bandit is broken. I read that somewhere in this discord a while back but I have confirmed it myself now too... they just don't have crit

[naive nexus]

what are the best weapon prefix ?

[thorny parcel]

Depends on the weapon and intended use.

[harsh wagon]

Is it possible to get the achievement for using legendary astrohouse for the Owl just by spamming it endlessly after beating pole monarch?

like just standing here, summoning cards until I get legendary then using it

[harsh wagon]

that answers my question lmao

and with that, back up to 100%

[clever olive]

Clearing out screenshots, found this one reminded me of the song Blinded by the Light 😆

[rare iris]

Should I get gunfire on mobile if I already have it on steam?

[still jacinth]

Nah just play the steam version

[rare iris]

Do you have to beat pole monarch for professional athlete?

[thorny parcel]

No.

[rare iris]

Well

I was 7 seconds off in doing it with pole monarch

Rip

Almost did it with heavy burden and 396 hp

Li primary builds are fun

[naive nexus]

and like Star Ring ?

[harsh wagon]

pain.png

[mossy sequoia]

Got the drip

[proud fable]

I was gonna guess bleed penguin but it looks like ur in the fjord

[bitter ginkgo]

Prob a bleed monk

Man is drippin’ so hard he needs a coaster to stand on 😭

[harsh wagon]

it was infact bleed monk

gave me a heart attack until I realised: Fake death + lifesaver

[bitter ginkgo]

He just wanted the Succ

[golden fog]

How do you build Nona well?

[proud fable]

here's a build

[golden fog]

ok, I didn't know if the wiki was good or not for this

[thorny parcel]

It's not. That's the only listed build for Nona.

[golden fog]

Welp, time to build a build from scratch to get you those nona PNGs for spirtual assualt then

[thorny parcel]

Realistically, I could put together builds for the wiki that I assume may exist. Wouldn't be able to do all the finer details though.

But given the wiki ones are generalized, it might not matter much.

Might think on it more.

[clever olive]

Overconsumption and Pair of Us, normally for these Ascensions (not in order, they are just good for me): Mastery, Energy Overload, Wood Armor, Shoulder Cannon Upgrade, Missile Storm, Nimble Finger. Here is a screenie of my Ascensions I took when I finally unlocked R8, I had Overconsumption, Pair of Us and Steady Profit.

[golden fog]

If you want, we could always do the generic Tiger Cannon build for everyone for spirtual assualt
(some heros have some modications)

[golden fog]

thank you

[thorny parcel]

The builds are hero-specific or the hero uses it the best, like Painkiller with Cat or Spore Gemini with Bunny.

And if the best for said Tiger Cannon build is Ao Bai, he's already got it.

[golden fog]

Zi Xiao I'd say is better with tiger cannon in spirtual assualt

that 4x crit + weapon ascentions does a number on everything

[thorny parcel]

Can't crit until you get Wait For Good, Deadly Counter or Last Star 3 with legendary astroaspects, though.

Or that 35% crit chance massive 9 slot spiritual jade.

[golden fog]

Trick Shot jade

[thorny parcel]

I knew I was missing something.

[golden fog]

But yeah, you can do decently with any character with a tiger cannon build in spirtual assualt. Right now I'm doing a solo run of each to prove a point that it should probally be nerfed.

[thorny parcel]

Still though, I can't help but immediately think "Wouldn't Deafening Mortar work better?"

Because that build doesn't do with Tiger Cannon what Deafening Mortar can't.

Besides shooting at a distance immediately after the reload.

[golden fog]

IDK, I could try at some point.
I'm finishing up getting your pictures for the wiki right now actually, so I guess we'll find out soon.

I figured out why it's tiger cannon and not deafening mortar:
Trick shot only works with the first shot & the gemini we use, the magazine is locked to a size of 1, also doesn't work well with deafening mortar.

[thorny parcel]

So it's solely because 1 Mag gemini cannot be given to Deafening Mortar.

[odd jungle]

Hello

Pretty new to the game.

Played Crown Prince for a bit before swapping to Tao, now doing my best to level her.

[bitter ginkgo]

How lovely

Tao is interesting

[odd jungle]

I quite like Blossom Enthusiast even with the change of -8 to -6.

[bitter ginkgo]

I see

I like the blessing that stacks Q damage when you pick up flowers

I forget what it’s called

[dull plaza]

I see
You mean Thorny Bloom

[bitter ginkgo]

Yes!

[odd jungle]

We need more guides and build videos. Lol

[bitter ginkgo]

Nahh

Things are mostly simple once you learn what to prioritize to make your build work

[gloomy steppe]

Finally

[bitter ginkgo]

Beautiful

The…blicky…

[gusty mountain]

Now you just need to swap out that gemini.

[proud needle]

Ammo consumption go brrrrr

[gloomy steppe]

Damage go brrrr

[lavish lily]

are you sure about that?

I'm at work and can't check but I'm pretty sure that 1 ammo Gemini can be set to Mortar

[thorny parcel]

I assumed it based on what they said. Not what I know.

[modest hearth]

gyts'

guys

in order to complete nightmare i need to kill all bosses?

or just the 3rd one

[still jacinth]

Jokul is always optional

[thorny basalt]

I’ve used 1 mag mortar before
It’s a thing

[still jacinth]

Imagine

Devs be like "lmao fuck these Mortar mains specifically"

[lavish lily]

They did exactly this for Fire Tower players. Two times 🙂

[glacial spoke]

Talk about overkill

[lament kettle]

Ok the spiritual blessing for bird that consume all armor is by far the funnest way to play him

I just finished an Act 4 elite gathering like it was NOTHING

[bitter ginkgo]

That’s why it’s called All or NOTHING

[river roost]

Will zi xiao come to mobile?

[thorny parcel]

Highly likely.

[wind grotto]

Lmao this is ridiculous

[velvet hamlet]

speeeeeed

[pine trout]

it feels so good to GO FAST
a big pet peeve I have with this game is how low the base movespeed is

[bitter ginkgo]

Sword supremacy

[thorny parcel]

That's what I hoped one of the higher difficulties would end up as, actually.

[bitter ginkgo]

If you die in Gunfire you die in real life

That’s R9

[thorny parcel]

Player moves faster and their dash has reduced cooldown, but enemies shoot more often, attacks in quick succession act quicker, their projectiles move faster, and melee enemies move and slash more rapidly.

Revolves less around one-shotting them before they one-shot you, and more about having faster reactions.

[full tapir]

I managed to get it while on Turtle and decided to just go a speed build, with Battle Pace and Wave Rider, Gotta go fast! 😛

[wind grotto]

Holy shit🤣🔥that’s crazy!! I didn’t even know you can get so much speed

[proud needle]

Qing has tons of MS boosts

couple that with Battle Pace

[full tapir]

I didn't even have ostrich rider, or various other speed boosts, so its definitely possible to go a bunch faster

[celest tundra]

Is that enough to get Fist Sensation to 80? Cause i might try a Copycat+Battle Pace(if i'm lucky) build on to try to get his level frame.

[proud needle]

Way more than enough

[celest tundra]

Excellent~

[proud needle]

This is Qian Sui Madness
Sadly didnt get Battle Pace or More Battle Adrenaline

But having super speed and Lightning strikes on every dash and on kil dash reset

Even the minimap wasnt enough to navigate

https://tenor.com/view/safemoon-gif-shinobi-gif-22327697

[teal walrus]

Can I play in the steam version with my friend that plays mobile version?

[thorny parcel]

No.

[echo tinsel]

What's the fastest method of getting Soul Essence?

[thorny parcel]

Multiplayer: Teaming up with other people on Reincarnation 8 and letting them carry you.

Solo (mid/late game): Playing on Reincarnation 1 difficulty, picking all Bizarre Dreams which obviously help you, particularly Lone Wolf for the free blessing, and only buying the first blessing but make sure it's a good one.

Solo (early game): Beating normal/elite difficulty repeatedly, but only do elite if you don't get killed.

[echo tinsel]

Ok ty, didn't think Lone Wolf would make it that much faster given the player scaling

[thorny parcel]

Player scaling purely works in your favour for this one. Not only do enemies not gain higher HP like multiplayer does, but the increased enemy count means more soul essence.

And if you use AoE attacks like most skills, which you probably could because of all the power you'll have, you won't even notice the higher number of enemies trying to attack you.

[echo tinsel]

Wait I though lone Wolf was just adding the MP scaling to solo. What all does it increase then?

[thorny parcel]

It increases enemy amount and the power of certain attacks. That's it.

[echo tinsel]

Ah i see

[lapis rampart]

real quick

is R8 the highest? or does it go higher?

[proud needle]

not yet

[lapis rampart]

okokok ty:D

[celest tundra]

In that regard, does setting Lone Wolf to 4 players, and then going, for example, Atomic Bomb doggo.....will that make me filthy rich?

[proud needle]

more enemies = more drops

how you kill them is up to you

[celest tundra]

(the question meant how effective AoE skills/weapons are with enemy count scaling)

[thorny parcel]

If you catch every enemy in the AoE, it doesn't matter how many of them there are, they're all dying the same.

[celest tundra]

eye see~
Thanks for the tip!

[soft oasis]

Does anyone know when we’re gonna get the fox monkey panda and owl on ps4 I’ve been playing on pc and I hopped on the PlayStation version to play with some friends and they aren’t there so I was wondering

[lavish lily]

Xbox release -> Xbox fix -> PS release -> PS fix -> Switch release -> Switch fix->Xbox first DLC -> Xbox fix->.... So in the next 10 years

[soft oasis]

Damn they really just don’t care about the game at all do they

[soft oasis]

Is there anything the players can do about it or do we just have to wait and suffer

[proud needle]

Complain to 505

sadly this is all that you can do

[lavish lily]

this

[quartz current]

Unfortunately the people in charge of updating console are not the same as the ones updating Steam/Mobile.

Have we even heard news of them hinting at any update? I don't think so?

[soft oasis]

I already sent a bug fix request and complained to them

I really hope they end up fixing it

[proud needle]

We (mods and admins) are trying to get communication started as forced

[soft oasis]

But I have little faith

[proud needle]

Same sadly here

[soft oasis]

I’m glad that you guys are on it

[proud needle]

Only thing I can do is pestering people higher up

[soft oasis]

Cause I’m sure you see how much the updates mean to people

Like it’s kinda crazy that their not updating with the dlc it’s a waste of money

Tons of fans on consoles want to give money for dlc

[proud needle]

its not even about giving money

its about keeping a contract up

[soft oasis]

That too

[proud needle]

and updating the game with fixes

ot even content

[soft oasis]

The money for dlc is just icing on the cake

[lavish lily]

see, this mfuckers don't even reply to IP holder

[quartz current]

I'd be happy if all platforms could experience the game I get to experience on Steam. No fun when you know you're playing a product that is less updated than another version.

[soft oasis]

I will say multiplayer on ps5 is pretty buggy and unplayable sometimes

Ye I love the pc version it’s legit my favorite rogue like of all time

Like seriously I’ve got like 500 hours in gunfire on pc

I just want my console friends to have the same content

Anyway thx for updating me everyone I’m gonna keep supporting the game and hoping for the best

[quartz current]

Of course 💛 glad you enjoy it and hope your friends will one day get to experience the DLC too.

[celest tundra]

I just wanna randomly say, while i have the game paused, is that my most favorite ingame music is Jokul's combat music (especially the fierce one)

[bitter ginkgo]

My life is a jokul

[still jacinth]

I can't a-Fjord to make it better

[bitter ginkgo]

D:

[celest tundra]

I'm Longling for a peace of tranquility

[still jacinth]

But all my energy has Desert-ed from all this Anxi-ety

[soft oasis]

On ps4 how do I cancel dual wielding early

[still jacinth]

Hold the weapon switch button

For you is probably Triangle

[quartz current]

Does console have newer Sharpshooter for cooldown reset cheese?

If so that's nice.

[thorny parcel]

If I recall what others say, it does but uses the old description about instant reloads.

[proven sage]

currently it resets Surplus when you use it, as it reloads the gun

[proud fable]

I am convinced that the dragonchaser is just chlorophyte bullets from terraria

[thorny parcel]

Nah. Chlorophyte bullets can hit something without pretending to shoot a scopeless sniper first.

[proud fable]

Apart from the lock-on part

But they both green and they both do some goofy turns to hit enemies

[thorny parcel]

Goofy turns is pretty common with homing in any game though.

It's the result of having projectile rotate towards foes without something else changing to offset it.

[proud fable]

Ig

Finee

However

riddle me this batman

do you have any idea why my dragonchaser is using 22 ammo per shot instead of 2

it just used 32 -_-

[thorny parcel]

Might have something to do with the Normal Ammo scroll. There was another case on reddit where someone's Wolf Gaze consumed all ammo at once.

[proud fable]

I dont have that though

lemme get vidoe

mouse ASMR

@thorny parcel

Also why did I reload 135 ammo when I only had 45 in my reserves

[thorny parcel]

Yeah, I have no idea.

The reddit case also had +1 projectiles, +100% consumption though.

[gusty mountain]

I was thinking it was a bug with that inscription.

[proud fable]

ye

Idk what the hell would prompt a gun to use 16x the amount of ammo it's supposed to

[gusty mountain]

Too bad it doesn't shoot the same amount of projectiles.

[proud fable]

That would be so worth it

This build should be annihilating enemies but because every mag lasts 9 shots and I have shitty aim I'm doing so poorly

bunnis ascensions barely help

[thorny parcel]

If I had to guess, it's some sort of code loop that thinks "1 consumption? Needs +100% so consumes 2 projectiles. 2 consumption? That's not 1, so needs +100% so consumes 4 projectiles. 4 consumption? That's not 2 so needs-"

[gusty mountain]

Only thing that'd help would be deft hands.

Or bloody ammo

[proud fable]

ye

hasn't shown up yet

Thank god bloody ammo doesn't look at the amount of ammo you would consume

[gusty mountain]

I wonder if it affects bloody ammo

[proud fable]

-32 hp per shot

[thorny parcel]

I wonder if the Chinese version's description has changed or something.

[proud fable]

why cap out at 32 tho?

Oh

Maybe because thats the maximum power of two a base dragonchaser can take?

it has like 46 ammo normally and so it can't handle 64 so it caps out at 32?

even though I have combine mag

[thorny parcel]

Dragonchaser's magazine is 35. I checked.

[proud fable]

Oh

still higher than 32

no idea why I had a mag of 46 in longling then but whatever

Maybe it was some bunni ascension or sum shit

[royal plinth]

D

[thorny parcel]

Superior Magazine talent. +30% mag capacity. 35 -> 45.3 (46).

[proud fable]

yez there you go

[proud fable]

Ok so I left the game after I reached the jokul and came back this afternoon and the bug is fixed

back to 2 ammo per shot

[proud needle]

BEHOLD

The product of mad science in an attempt to find the bottom of the abyss

single digit normal weapon dmg

[proud needle]

Reaching new lows

3

3 Dmg on a weapon hit

[proud needle]

Behold again

the absolute lowest dmg

So the race to the bottom is over

[celest tundra]

(find the Broken bullet scroll for maximum memeage)

[proud needle]

Point was to do that without it

[harsh wagon]

Monarch is gonna feel that one in the morning

[dim glade]

I almost hit 600k so close

[tribal elbow]

hello:) where to find guides for gemini combos ? (like spore spreading shotgun - rainbow)

[thorny parcel]

While it isn't a guide specifically, this still has useful information that can help.
https://gunfirereborn.fandom.com/wiki/Inscriptions#Gemini_Inscriptions

[proven sage]

Spore is the only complicated one

maybe elemental share too

[celest tundra]

Elemental share isn't complicated.
Both weapon's advantages (effectiveness against health bars based on element) and effect chance (% to burn, shock and decay) are applied to any of the two weapons you're holding. That's it.

[proud needle]

The amount of people thinking and asking if it does the other elemental dmg speaks against that

and the to explain that the chance is the other weapons chance is another herculean task at times

[quartz current]

Things that aren't complicated are complicated feat. the internet .

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s Gunfire

Color coding blue damage type to blue ehp bar is hard

[vague gazelle]

So like question

Is psn version gonna have the same fate as Xbox

Or is it actually gonna get updates

Cause I played on Xbox nothing ever happened but when my Xbox went k.i.a I got a ps5 and like iono hoping it gets the dlcs and shit

[proud needle]

Its the same people responsible

Enough of an answer that crushes hopes and makes you mad ?

If so its how we all feel about this nonsense

[celest tundra]

So basically, 505 Games is bad.
(I know them from 2 other different games i've played. One of them the devs left them after introducing blatant microtransaction, and the other is a mobile game riddled with paid FOMO content)

[vague gazelle]

Damn.

So like

Why is it split

Did 505 buy the other versions or smth

What's the lore

[thorny parcel]

They were contracted to do the port by the original developers.

They did the bare minimum required.

[vague gazelle]

Damn

Duyoi should just like take it away (I know nothing abt anything at all)

[thorny parcel]

Hindsight is 20/20, but back then it was either ask another company to port it, or it doesn't get ported.

Given the results, not sure which is worse.

[pine trout]

ok then

[thorny parcel]

That's some extreme glass cannoning you've got going there.

[celest tundra]

"Dealt 0 damage"
Paraflesh+bones moment?

[proud needle]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-gif-24390252

[warped quiver]

I'm one of the few dumbasses that takes glass cannon

As Ao Bai might I add