hello
#All Platforms
royal plinth
okay thank you.
hoary comet
li is still balanced
proud fable
yup
cyan zephyr
Sometimes a stage won't have one, but it's rare.
What’s the verdict on peddler + craftsman
If you see 1 there is always the counterpart ? Or no
Do they start coming level 2-3 of the first world?
white spindle
This build 💩. Blood Bath link carried me.
formal burrow
what's some good builds for this game?
currently I use a bow (either the golden one or the blue one) and just try to get the best crit damage possible
whenever i use a different weapon i just feel so lost idk
proud fable
A lot of secondary skill builds can usually get pretty overpowered
Especially with the right ascensions
Birds easy kill, bunnys blade of bloom, tigers lightning governor, cats toxic smoke, dogs made bomber, etc etc
lone yarrow
currently I use a bow (either the golden one or the blue one) and just try to ge...
What weapon I use depends on what I get/rng as well what cards I get as some cards synergies better with certain weapons. This one was pretty insane
mint cradle
Ooh yeah that’s nice
proud fable
What weapon I use depends on what I get/rng as well what cards I get as some car...
Hoooo what a god roll
rough basin
hello, with the first strike upgrade. do I understand it correctly that If my gun has 30 ammo, its does 150% more dmg for the first shot, then 145% dmg for the second? the wiki says it's not that strong if not used with certain combinations of bigger magazine. so im confused if i understand it correctly
thorny parcel
- Yes, those magazine to damage numbers are... close enough to correct.
- Weapons useful for Soul Strike are bad with it, because unless you have a way to massively increase its magazine, they all have tiny magazine capacity.
rough basin
i see, thanks, im using it for radiation gloves and i have 168 magazine right now. Since the weapon ability refreshes the mag instantly I constantly have ~800% dmg boost. pretty cool stuff
lone yarrow
Best sword ever
stuck harbor
Hi. Does anyone know how can I be the host of a multiplayer session?
lone yarrow
Hi. Does anyone know how can I be the host of a multiplayer session?
Pick what game-mode you want, then invite people or send them the lobby ID
mint cradle
Best sword ever
Dayum, very nice
drowsy dock
Any news on the next update?
proud fable
soon
velvet hamlet
Any news on the next update?
what platform?
drowsy dock
Steam
thorny parcel
No there isn't, besides the roadmap.
proud fable
is there any way to reset your progress?
Playing w/ friends and I don't wanna carry them with max skill trees and guns that shouldn't be unlocked yet
thorny parcel
You can create a new archive (AKA save file).
thorny parcel
If you click on your name up in the top right corner when in the main menu, you'll see a list of save files.
Simply create a new one.
proud fable
I convinced my friends to buy gfr after a month of them calling it a furry game
We just logged off and they now like the game and are looking forward to next time we play
I have converted them my furry brethren >:D
||/s||
velvet hamlet
based
warped quiver
snow vector
Any tips on the overall gameplay? I can't seem to deal enough damage and die. I am trying nightmare under 30 mins so I am not taking vaults.
thorny parcel
Find good synergies to deal good damage, and get things that make it harder to die.
harsh wagon
Cave Johnson, we're done here.
snow vector
guys is this supposed to happen look at my ammo
tawny lynx
guys is this supposed to happen look at my ammo
It's one of the spiritual links that increases launcher ammo by 100
snow vector
It's one of the spiritual links that increases launcher ammo by 100
ohh i never paid attention to that thank you
cloud tinsel
Gunfire Reborn
velvet hamlet
so true
tawny lynx
Truly one of the games of all time
harsh wagon
real
solid phoenix
does the inscription +50% elemental effect chance upon hitting enemy affect the gemini shared element chance?
thorny parcel
It resets when swapping weapons, so unless you're Dual-Wielding, no.
opal geyser
i weep whenever a new update comes out and doesn't nerf revive spam
still seems like a very nice update
thorny parcel
I weep whenever a new update comes out and buffs spiritual blessings, spiritual ascensions or anything that's already considered very useful.
Pretty much every update, really.
shrewd aurora
i just don't read patch notes anymore, that way I can't be sad about it
tardy bluff
:3
devout sigil
wait what? this exists now? o.o
thorny parcel
Yep.
Because giving away worthless soul essence for whatever enhanced scroll you want is perfectly balanced.
devout sigil
even if not what you want, giving away an enhanced occult scroll on every roll for something you can easily farm back is perfectly balanced
oak tusk
Uuuh... I think you misunderstood: you're supposed to pay Soul Essence to get a scroll, not the other way around.
Unless this was a joke and I'm just dumb. lol
tawny lynx
Uuuh... I think you misunderstood: you're supposed to pay Soul Essence to get a ...
I think the point is that once you reach max level you can just start throwing soul essence away in stuff like this, so you can easily get what you want out of it
oak tusk
Uuuh, I was actually referring to masochist's message.
tawny lynx
Oh my bad
oak tusk
No problem. lol
cyan zephyr
wait what? this exists now? o.o
How did I miss this in the patch notes
Also, is it me or it seems gradual improvement directly gets buffed with these new blessings
Pretty tasty
Search for enhanced scroll is awesome, I had always wanted a way to farm more enhanced scrolls haha
proud fable
highest critx weapon?
probably strikewing
proud fable
im doing something silly
You're just gonna do a li run in spiritual ascension with 2 strikewings with the combine crit gemini huh
hoary comet
You're just gonna do a li run in spiritual ascension with 2 strikewings with the...
rei 8 lw 4
raging inferno, armed caster and hella spiritual flame dmg
velvet hamlet
perfect emote
proud fable
rei 8 lw 4
raging inferno, armed caster and hella spiritual flame dmg
- i thought armed caster was a jade concentrator thing
- It's not "something silly" it's what everyone immediately thought of doing lol
Good luck with Rngesus tho
pallid canopy
what are the clothes that Li wears called? i remember them having a name, but not what it is
distant fulcrum
what are the clothes that Li wears called? i remember them having a name, but no...
I believe it's a shrine maiden outfit (miko clothing).
distant fulcrum
So is the miko clothing. But the DLC is called "visitors of spirit realm", so it makes sense to have foreign influence?
oak tusk
Gotta say, Chromatic Magazine (relase all 3 elemental pulses on reload) has become particularly powerful now.
proud fable
Oh yeah didn't it get buffed
oak tusk
Yep.
At least playing solo, it made things a lot easier to handle... but, then again, I got a Frenzied Shart with an exclusive inscription that reduced the magazine to 2, so it was pretty easy to trigger. lol
proud fable
I can't decide whether cat or dog would be better for it
thorny parcel
It wasn't just buffed.
It was fucking powercrept up the wall.
oak tusk
I think it could use a cooldown.
Like, 10 seconds between each pulse, mayhaps.
proud fable
Just make it the same as having the three scrolls?
oak tusk
Would make pointless choosing the three scrolls then. lol
proud fable
I guess having the upgrade in the first place makes em useless
thorny parcel
I think it could use a cooldown.
Like, 10 seconds between each pulse, mayhaps.
If they did give it a cooldown, they'd probably only make it like... 2s or something.
Y'know, just enough to settle down the people complaining it's too OP, but not enough to actually make it not OP.
oak tusk
10 seconds seems fair to me. Maybe 5, wanting to be generous.
It still keeps some of the challenge, since you have to survive long enough to trigger another pulse.
Then again, miasma gets and less powerful the more players there are, at least last time I checked.
But the deal breaker is probably mind control: it takes off A LOT of pressure.
quick nacelle
So, since last update for game pass version, seems to be a new bug introduced that is quite inconvenient.....
Anyone who isn't host, can't get a game completion, you reach the end and go portal to take you back and game just kind of freezes and does nothing and than games failed pops up, the host can get out just fine
Happens literally every game
There a community manager or something that can relay this info to devs cuz this is pretty bad bug
thorny parcel
It's already known about. Has something to do with crossplaying with others on different platforms.
There's even a workaround someone's discovered.
quick nacelle
What is the work around?
And is this being looked into to get fixed or will it take like a year lol
thorny parcel
#1072249999896891512 message
It'll probably take ages. The pin in #1055552983951212664 has slightly more details.
mint cradle
FWIW, the Steam version is on sale currently, lol
quick nacelle
Awesomw thanns
I have another question for the turtle
How much does lucky shot chance effect his punch?
thorny parcel
None at all.
quick nacelle
Ok that's what i figured
thorny parcel
Skills cannot lucky shot or crit.
Exception is Swords Out when you have Furious Wave, which 'pretends' to lucky shot.
And any skill that uses a weapon for its damage.
thorny parcel
Yes.
quick nacelle
Ok yea cuz when ive played the bunny and done blade of bloom builds and scaling that i would start getting bunch of red dmg numbers from the swords spawning off blade of bloom
Thats why i wasn't 100% sure if turtles punches hit lucky shot or not
Just started trying out turtle
oak tusk
OK, small question: is it just me or, during Spiritual Assault, with a lot of enemies at the same time, you get input lag from time to time?
tawny lynx
I get it but that's because my FPS completely tanks with so many enemies, I would not be surprised if you would get a more noticeable input lag from them
pallid canopy
Just started trying out turtle
turtle is a lot of fun, i like playing them every now and then
propulsion device is def my favorite scroll to get
oak tusk
The funny thing is that the performance is more than acceptable, yet i get input lag. It's so weird.
I thought it was the keyboard, but I type a lot and it never types multiple letters.
pallid canopy
also, does solid shell appear while playing spiritual assault? seems like it'd be really good but i haven't been able to find it yet
can't tell if i'm unlucky or if its blacklisted because it'd be too strong
thorny parcel
If it was too strong, it would be nerfed like Easy Kill left the way it is because it's Turtle.
pallid canopy
mmm turtle
thorny parcel
Though in the case of SA, Birb actually needed that nerf because all his ascensions genuinely support said game mode, while Turtle's doesn't.
ruby oasis
birb strong now
thorny parcel
Exclusively in SA.
Regular runs he's still got poor damage consistency, restrictive Cleave use, and defensive prowess that's severely diminished if you're in multiplayer.
drowsy dock
hey, can i join someone who is playing on xbox if im playing on PC?
and how do i do that?
drowsy dock
they are using Gamepass but i cant invite them. does it mean that i have to have the game on my xbox account to play with them?
thorny parcel
Dunno. I don't use xbox.
quick nacelle
If you buy to own on xbox, do you get the dlcs?
thorny parcel
DLCs aren't available on Xbox.
modest chasm
Any developers around?
quick nacelle
What are the best spiritual blessings for turtle on game pass version between his three class specific ones
/best overall build on gamepass for reincarnation
thorny parcel
Libra Warrior.
quick nacelle
Was having fun doing full on shield hurtle/punch build on elite lol
thorny parcel
Dominating Fist is diet Skill Freak so you're better off picking that, and Backfire is situational at best and a meme at worst.
quick nacelle
Okay
You are very helpful and got all the answers lol
Appreciate it
What do you pair with libra warrior like general idea behind build using that
thorny parcel
Weapon stuff mostly, though Rogue Wave is definitely useful as it boosts Libra Warrior directly, and any movement speed stuff boost it further.
quick nacelle
There any meta weapons with that
thorny parcel
Fire Tower or Poisonous Ghost work pretty well. Almost like a punching build but with swords.
quick nacelle
Cool cool, ill give it a shot
What tree do you go down more for this if trying to min max
Like clenched fist would be decent no?
And the rogue wave for thr wave breaker tree
thorny parcel
Clenched Fist is useless. It only buffs his secondary skill, which Libra Warrior doesn't care about.
You take a bit from all 3 trees, but mostly from the dark blue one.
quick nacelle
Alrighty
How come rogue wave works but clenched fist doesn't, arent both inceeasing striking punch dmg
thorny parcel
Rogue Wave increases the power of Fist Sensation.
Libra Warrior increases weapon damage based on Fist Sensation.
velvet hamlet
what platform are you on?
hallow relic
love the talismans so op
hoary comet
wait what talisman good?
thorny parcel
Elite difficulty.
The point where hitting your enemies is harder than killing them, so Talisman wins by virtue of homing shots.
Also all 4 non-gemini inscriptions are extremely powerful on Talisman.
Lightning ball and fireball for triple elements and benefit from homing crits. Lucky shot chance which benefits from homing crits (though may have a bug with execution) and element spread, good for anything you want elemental effects, and since this Talisman could proc all 3...
thorny parcel
Yeah. The shots will slightly track down enemy weak spots.
If you miss, they'll adjust to hit.
hoary comet
never touched the talisman cuz i got told that it was shit
so i only used it like 2 times
did no dmg
and dropped
thorny parcel
It's like Tiger Cannon.
Great in low difficulties where hitting enemies is harder than killing them.
AoE is great for hitting enemies.
But once you get to Nightmare and higher, enemy health scales too high and it suddenly doesn't matter if you hit 100% shots or not, you kill them too slowly.
thorny parcel
This is Talisman, not Li.
So yes, slowly.
thorny parcel
As fast as Li, but then the Ta-sman fattens it up and slows it down.
hoary comet
the talisman is canonically fat
white spindle
Speculation as to what animal comes next as a new hero? Probably some lizard thing.
tardy bluff
I wanna see red panda :/
maiden magnet
what platform are you on?
I play on xbox
velvet hamlet
Speculation as to what animal comes next as a new hero? Probably some lizard thi...
owl
velvet hamlet
I play on xbox
maiden magnet
gotchu
thank you!
what weapons do you suggest me to play in order to beat the elite difficulty?
I only played non-elemental weapons until now
thorny parcel
Depends on:
• Who you play as
• What else you find
• What inscriptions it has
AKA, it depends.
spare dragon
Can someone explain this menu for the Lone Wolf option? Especially the "4/3/2 Player Count" part, I thought this mode only allowed one player? Or is it some sort of difficultly selection?
thorny parcel
Player count simulates more players, changing how many enemies appear and the power of certain enemy attacks. Higher number for more enemies and stronger attacks.
Extra Spiritual Blessing is self-explanatory. Pick an extra blessing for free.
spare dragon
Player count simulates more players, changing how many enemies appear and the po...
Gotcha, thanks
maiden magnet
Player count simulates more players, changing how many enemies appear and the po...
does the enemies' power increasement depending on how many people play go down after a player leaves the match?
proud fable
Yes
As noted by the text saying something along the lines of "A player has left the lobby and the difficulty has been changed accordingly"
maiden magnet
I see
desert mist
I think this is the new character. Change my mind:
thorny parcel
He looks too happy to be the hero silhouette.
Mind changed.
desert mist
Something happened, became stoic and fights. Mind unchanged!
proud fable
I dont think the dlc is gonna make the npcs playable characters
hallow relic
wait what talisman good?
insane
talisman is insane but depends on perks and on what hero you pick
and ofc it matters what kinda perks you get
i think talismans are amazing on Li and Lei luo
can be hiper pog
thorny parcel
That one's not quite as impressive as the last one.
hallow relic
cause i got it late in the game
thorny parcel
I mean the inscriptions.
hallow relic
the inscription is even more overpowered with the build i went
poison + fire
and last orange inscription made it
game breaking
secondary wepon had extra poison for sharing so was amazing
i one shot the boss in his every phase
thorny parcel
Corrosion Ball is the weakest of all 3 elemental balls, since it only hits 1 target and has low projectile speed.
+5% weapon base DMG on elemental effect suffers from diminishing returns the higher level the weapon is, as it's only effectively 6.66 levels at max.
Different element talismans is great and 20% for extra projectile is good, though.
hallow relic
yea but i had almost 300stacks from the imortal perk
so bonus 300% dmg
tahts why i play with secondary for poison
thorny parcel
Technically that doesn't make specifically Talisman better.
It makes everything better.
hallow relic
well duno what to say it literaly one shot the last boss every phase
didnt even move
anione intrested to clear nightmare?
shrewd aurora
everything is broken with dual edge
gusty mountain
Talisman is pretty subpar. It's only useful for proc ele orbs.
shrewd aurora
it suffers from trading base stats for bells and whistles, the ability to switch elements and the homing are cool but it traded so much base stat for it that it's just not worth it
turbid bolt
just played a 3p game where I felt bad for the bosses cuz cat just stun locked them almost permanently
maiden magnet
should I return to the inn after finishing stage 3?
^ in elite difficulty
or do I have to beat stage 4 to unlock nightmare?
turbid bolt
if you return, you'll unlock nightmare
if you DON'T return but die halfway, you WON'T unlock nightmare
maiden magnet
if you return, you'll unlock nightmare
if you DON'T return but die halfway, you ...
what do you suggest me to do
turbid bolt
same for all difficulties
if you die in stage 4, you won't unlock the next but if you go back in stage 3 you will unlock
uhh depends on your build
turbid bolt
if you're kind of steamrolling everything by the end of stage 3 then stage 4 shouldn't be a problem
I think there's some achievements for elite and above for stage 4 mobs and stuff
but those are kind of easily achievable later on too
maiden magnet
I'm playing solo, I still hadn't used my revive either, but I'm not sure about stage 4 since I'll be going there for the first time
I'll hear it from you, you tell me whether I go or not
turbid bolt
the pressure 😅
maiden magnet
lmao I have nobody else but myself to blame if I lose
turbid bolt
personally I would say return then
maiden magnet
alright then
turbid bolt
cuz I do remember a few times when I thought I could clear stage 4 but ended up dying and didn't unlock next difficulty
maiden magnet
yeah, I'll totally fail as well. it is better to unlock nightmare first before moving forward
turbid bolt
I WOULD suggest you try stage 4 on elite at least once before moving to nightmare though unless you're planning on just doing up till stage 3 on nightmare
just to get used to the enemy and boss patterns
maiden magnet
ty, I'll need it
turbid bolt
go read the boss patterns before you try him at least
maiden magnet
oh, is there a fifth stage?
maiden magnet
go read the boss patterns before you try him at least
is that considered cheese and I'd be ruining the fight for myself or not though
turbid bolt
I mean, you can don't do it if you don't want to 😆
maiden magnet
shoot
turbid bolt
tbh up to you anyway the more you play the more you get used to the patterns and you get more upgrades anyway
maiden magnet
I think I'd rather go into the fight blind. it'll most likely end badly though
yeah
turbid bolt
👍
maiden magnet
alright let's see what I can do
turbid bolt
it's not IMPOSSIBLE to figure out tbh
hallow relic
wanna give a go on nightmare guys?
tardy bluff
wanna give a go on nightmare guys?
are you looking for a geme?
hallow relic
yea
hallow relic
are you looking for a geme?
yea wanna play?
tardy bluff
sure
eternal bluff
Hey why wont gunfire start on my steam deck
I boot it up and it goes to the main loading screen and then crashes
velvet hamlet
Hey why wont gunfire start on my steam deck
go to the game's page from your library, then go to properties through the gear icon on the right, select launch options, and type in: PROTON_LOG=1 %command%
harsh wagon
ah, true hell mode unlocked
maiden magnet
best lei luo weapons to use, everybody?
?
velvet hamlet
best lei luo weapons to use, everybody?
depends on your build
but usually snipers
like strike wing and stuff
proud fable
best lei luo weapons to use, everybody?
Himself
Chain lightning or the lightning bolt he summons in fatal current can both be busted to hell and back
I'd say best gun weapon is strikewing, as it can kill more than 1 enemy, which, in enemy-crowded modes like R8, is really good
hoary comet
LI HAS BEEN NERFED!!!
YOU CANT SPAM E TO GET STUFF LIKE GOLDEN MEDAL
shadow nerf
proud fable
Man thats crazy lmao
Right in time for the next paid dlc to come out
(I'm sure she's still broken but I was right :D)
crystal saddle
not seen this before
thorny parcel
One of several new Reincarnation-exclusive red chests.
crystal saddle
very cool also saw the other new one upgrade a scroll into enhanced
super neat ideas love it!
cant wait for new chars 😄
shrewd aurora
wait wtf, isn't that just search scroll but even better cause it's enhanced and free
thorny parcel
Yes.
I mean... it's using up more soul essence than you can create every run at least......?
shrewd aurora
man, those silly devs and their powercreep
thorny parcel
It's actually a double-edged sword.
shrewd aurora
no, it's an enhanced double-edged sword
thorny parcel
Enhanced Dual-edge.
For people who can afford spending soul essence, it's better quality loot from red chests.
For people who cannot afford spending soul essence because they need it for talents or they suck, it means some red chests will now be useless to them.
shrewd aurora
just the way they intended
we can't have the difficulty curve making sense, that would be heinous
this also conveniently fits right into my theory that soul essence is the root of all evil in this game
proud fable
Honestly there needs to be a way to make the game harder
Sure you can do challenge runs or whatnot
but those with tons of essence lying around can now get whatever they want
Lone wolf was a step in the right direction, but doesn't seem to make the game harder
Theres more elites and more enemies but thats all I see
In an actual 4 player run, about 2 bil damage total is dealt
in a 4 player lone wolf run, about 500m damage total is dealt
The devs just powercreeped games by a ton, and now we need more difficulty (Except penguins and arsonists, they deserved to be nerfed into dust)
thorny parcel
Lone wolf was a step in the right direction, but doesn't seem to make the game h...
That's because it doesn't actually affect enemy HP + Shields/Armor, and gives you a spiritual blessing as compensation.
And we all know certain spiritual blessings are OP.
proud fable
That's because it doesn't actually affect enemy HP + Shields/Armor, and gives yo...
Which is why it doesnt add much difficulty imo
thorny parcel
It's like doing a jump with a bike by making the ramp slightly steeper, then strapping a rocket to your bike to assist you.
proud fable
That went over my head I'm sorry lmao
shrewd aurora
it's all just part of the eternal cycle of buffing players too much and then adding more difficulty bloat to try to compensate
we have what, 12 difficulties now?
thorny parcel
proud fable
it's all just part of the eternal cycle of buffing players too much and then add...
then you nerf the players again but the difficulty bloat is not strong enough to justify it
thorny parcel
And 2 "harder" modifiers.
thorny parcel
Only player nerfs that happen are:
- In response to a previous buff.
- Immediately followed up by a buff (or several) to apologize.
shrewd aurora
they used to but I guess the backlash that got from the few times they did do it hurt them so badly that they gave up on the idea
proud fable
Gunfire reborn seems like its designed to be for players new to fps games
thorny parcel
The late game acts like it.
proud fable
which is good, I suck at shooters so having a game like this is fun
proud fable
That's genuinely hard.
Thats the only thing I hate about r8
Theres so many enemies and you don't have enough ascensions or scrolls
thorny parcel
Normal, Elite and Nightmare you suck and you suffer as you git gud.
proud fable
game knowledge is literally the strongest tool in this game
thorny parcel
Reincarnation however throws you some help.. when you've already got gud and don't need help.
proud fable
Game knowledge + spiritual ascension is overpowered
thorny parcel
And with every update, it throws you more and more help, while early difficulties remain just as hard as before.
proud fable
Yeah
When they nerf players, those who are used to the lategame triviality get pissed
But earlygame players don't notice shit
Cuz chances are, they don't get nerfed as the nerf doesn't affect them like it would someone whos beaten r8 500 times
harsh wagon
first reincarnation 8 run was going well
then I got spawned into 3 elite monsters and promptly instakilled
thank you desert area very cool
didn't even get past level 1 stage 3 in 2nd run lol
harsh wagon
this is pain
hallow relic
this wepons is just too much fun
cant remain wiothout bullets
any weapon have higher ROF then angelic?
harsh wagon
maybe one of the funny lasers?
gusty mountain
any weapon have higher ROF then angelic?
nope
hallow relic
maybe one of the funny lasers?
hmmm not sure tho
pallid canopy
yooo, nice
cyan zephyr
So, Armed Caster is additive I’m assuming? Despite saying something like 800% increase in skill damage, the bonus seems hardly perceptible on gradual improvement with ~20x crit
The fact you can change a regular scroll to enhanced and search for an enhanced scroll is a very addition though for us filthy casuals 😄
thorny parcel
Except unless you can win most runs through multiplayer cheesing or OP blessings, "filthy casuals" will sometimes be unable to afford it.
quartz current
I am still so shook they added those red chests. Some enhanced scrolls are bonkers--especially when paired with other ones. And from what I've seen these red chests are relatively common.
thorny parcel
They are. If I had to guess, they've got the same rarity as most of the red chests you see.
Exceptions being the goblet ones, of course.
quartz current
My first run after the patch had two of those chests in back to back zones--back to back rooms, even. Granted it was in Tombs and I didn't really have good scrolls to truly take advantage, but still.
cyan zephyr
Except unless you can win most runs through multiplayer cheesing or OP blessings...
Have had 0 problems affording it haha
But, to your point, we only play two player cheesing, exclusively 😄 it’s our nightly game so, we always have 20k+ essence
Anyway, either armed caster is additive or it’s bugged and does nothing
cyan zephyr
My first run after the patch had two of those chests in back to back zones--back...
We’ve encountered 1 or 2 every run
Which admittedly is like, 5 or 6 runs, so not a huge sample but the fact you can search scroll sometimes twice in a game or search and enhance is just nutty. But we did wonder if something lowkey was nerfed regarding our beloved phantom.
Phantom consistently had only shown up 1 time on level 3 on our runs, and I at least one of us had chosen occult booster. Easy to swap it at the end before the fourth level but it did seem our overall enhanced scroll count was the same
shrewd aurora
gfr has done a pretty good job of convincing me that stock meta currencies in roguelites might just be a bad idea
imagine how different the game would be nowadays if in the original release they did something besides soul essence for meta progression
it really feels like every criticism I have of the game (besides the ever worsening performance) can be traced back to soul essence
thorny parcel
To be fair, that's because they use it as a catch-all for Reincarnation exclusive, which was supposed to give a use for soul essence after talents.
It's just they decided to also make Reincarnation exclusive stuff OP as fuck and borderline required for the highest difficulties.
cyan zephyr
Interesting take, agreed on performance, but again, I think the goal is more to appease multiplayer fans which I feel bothers a lot of the solo players, as it somehow cheapens their runs
thorny parcel
If blessings and enhanced scrolls cost copper or were completely free instead, they'd still be OP as fuck and screw with game balance.
cyan zephyr
I suppose, but I still feel that the majority of r8 runs that do end, end in the tombs, and the amount of red chests you encounter remain random
mossy sequoia
I am still so shook they added those red chests. Some enhanced scrolls are bonke...
Eye of prov op now
cyan zephyr
Haha eye of providence, for us at least, is not a bottom of the barrel choice
I think the 20 scroll limitation craftsman blessing is always a no for us, the replenishing secondary skill, I’ll have to think on what else is virtually always a pass
thorny parcel
Craftsman's Inheritor got shadow-nerfed when they buffed Supreme Craftsman.
Because they decided to make inscription rerolling free.
Which was a pretty big reason to use Craftsman's Inheritor before, because it wasn't free.
cyan zephyr
Jackpot and painkiller are passes as well usually
thorny parcel
Painkiller is no longer a complete pass.
It lets you apply literally all elemental and fusion effects on an enemy if you have any elemental effect application.
And still gives positive effects if you're affected by them from enemies or enthusiast scrolls.
It's Triple Element Build: The Blessing.
cyan zephyr
Oh true, haven’t seen it. Armed caster, counter violence (I like this one), and skilled trick come up quite a bit
However, not all weapons have a weapon skill so 🫠
thorny parcel
Scopes count as a weapon skill, fun fact.
Free +200% Lucky Shot Chance for most snipers.
cyan zephyr
So, 10 shots scoped, de-scope, scope for 200%
thorny parcel
It's just a flat +200% Lucky Shot Chance at full stacks.
Doesn't even specifically boost the weapon skill.
Boosts all shots.
Easiest way to get red lucky shots in the game.
cyan zephyr
Hm. So I guess this is my translation issue then haha
So are you saying it stacks just by killing enemies whilst scoping
thorny parcel
And apparently this is intended, but bring down the scope? Another +1 stack.
thorny parcel
So if you rapidly scope and unscope 5 times, you immediately cap.
Take like... under a second.
thorny parcel
Scope once every 10s to keep the stacks.
cyan zephyr
Ahh nice haha
thorny parcel
Y'know thinking about it, Painkiller now makes Cat's Elemental Orb and Tiger's Lightning Messenger blessings rather useless.
Besides the +125% Elemental DMG and +100% Weapon/Skill DMG that Elemental Orb and Lightning Messenger have, respectively (both of which are additive), you only get to inflict 1 elemental effect, and they all have a requirement to take effect.
Elemental Orb? Create an elemental ball of 1 element type with delayed hits and has a global cooldown that needs to be lowered with kills or elite/boss hits.
Lightning Messenger? Can only Shock enemies, and requires a crit.
Painkiller? Inflict everything just by inflicting an elemental effect. Has a 2s cooldown per-enemy, which is meaningless when you consider the enemy is now fucked for 5 seconds.
shrewd aurora
Interesting take, agreed on performance, but again, I think the goal is more to ...
I play multiplayer pretty much exclusively and most of my criticisms are about multiplayer. The way things are people get broken builds so quickly and so easily that everything feels meaningless. Plus revives still suck all of the challenge out of the game either way.
or rather I should say I used to play multiplayer pretty much exclusively, I haven't actually booted up the game since june
though the main reason for that is cause the performance finally got so bad that I can't comfortably finish a coop run anymore
cyan zephyr
I play multiplayer pretty much exclusively and most of my criticisms are about m...
Yeah, since it’s just the wife and I that play, if one of us pieces together a broken build early we love it
But certainly can respect the desire for a more challenging base game, unsure of how popular the new mode is but I haven’t really tried it since launch and enemies swarm you even when talking to the peddler haha
thorny parcel
They've steadily been making Spiritual Assault easier and easier... and easier...
But a reasonable number of people don't like it, find it too chaotic, boring, hard* or just not what they signed up to play.
* Disclaimer: The player sucks at making good builds because they don't start OP.
cyan zephyr
They've steadily been making Spiritual Assault easier and easier... and easier.....
Do you like it
thorny parcel
At first I did because there was a reasonable challenge to it during the period players were figuring out how to play it.
But then they made it easier and easier.
Now I find it boring because it's 30 minutes of endless horde killing in the same map.
And a boss at the end that melts to any build worth its salt.
shrewd aurora
don't worry they'll probably add a new difficulty to it so they can buff players even more afterwards
thorny parcel
You mean like how they added new difficulties to Daily Challenges?
Which they didn't.
cyan zephyr
Yeah, the core game mode is great though, seems like they need to have a more hardcore/prestige mode for those who are wanting more of a challenge
thorny parcel
The more hardcore mode already exists.
It was supposed to be Reincarnation 8.
cyan zephyr
Yeah, I’d say we probably finish r8 80% of the time two player
So it’s definitely not a hardcore mode if we are somewhat crushing it easily
In its present state
thorny parcel
It used to be a hardcore mode, because it added more challenge events, and even harder challenge events.
Then they nerfed some of the challenge events, and buffed blessings, and buffed blessings, and buffed blessings, and buffed blessings, and buffed blessings...
cyan zephyr
😅
shrewd aurora
the problem is every time they add a new difficulty that's intended to be the hardcore difficulty they just buff players afterward anyway effectively making the whole thing pointless
or they just prepackage the new difficulty with the buffs to begin with
thorny parcel
Like Spiritual Assault and how it was prepackaged with Radioactive Gauntlet.
cyan zephyr
Yeah, probably would be frustrating if we were playing the harder difficulties in their initial states and had to really optimize to win
thorny parcel
Which is absurdly powerful in- you guessed it -Spiritual Assault.
shrewd aurora
that's the whole point, if we're not adding harder difficulties so they can be harder then it's just a waste of time
thorny parcel
Yeah, probably would be frustrating if we were playing the harder difficulties i...
There's a solution to that available to everyone.
It's called "Playing on a lower difficulty".
Reincarnation 1 exists for a reason after all.
cyan zephyr
There's a solution to that available to everyone.
It's called "Playing on a low...
Either I’m not understanding how this fixes other players frustrations with the buff or if you’re misreading what I’m saying 😅
thorny parcel
Point is there didn't need to be a buff in the first place.
If people were having issues beating the new difficulty, go back to the old one. Simple.
cyan zephyr
Right, I was just saying if I was around during that time and had to work hard to survive r8, I would feel somewhat cheated if they just made it easy mode comparatively
cyan zephyr
But I don’t, haha I like the game in its existing state as a newcomer and there is still a chance that if we don’t wipe the elite mandril off the map quickly that our run could possibly end 😂
The real last boss
thorny parcel
I'm sure you would've liked the game just as much if Reincarnation 3 or 4 was the difficulty that R8 is right now, and you instead played on R3 or R4.
Could've visited the difficulties harder than your skill level if you wanted, but you wouldn't need to and could happily play on lower difficulties and have fun.
There are 11 difficulties, each appealing to a different skill level. We don't need the hardest one to be playable by the most casual of players when they have 10 other options to choose from.
cyan zephyr
I can agree with that
We definitely are fairly casual, despite both wife and I each having 400 + hours in the game according to steam 😅
Nothing like a relaxing r8 run
mossy sequoia
It used to be a hardcore mode, because it added more challenge events, and even ...
the only nerf to events that I'm still glad about is the stupid cube
cyan zephyr
the only nerf to events that I'm still glad about is the stupid cube
What was the cube of old all about
Origin can be absolutely brutal if you miss that it’s origin 😂 usually is desert stage 1 and I’m just like wow we are weak af
Until we realize it’s origin
mossy sequoia
What was the cube of old all about
the cube HP did not scale up through difficulties, and if the cube was killed then you died. It was also an entire floor of an act, so it had much less loot overall
cyan zephyr
the cube HP did not scale up through difficulties, and if the cube was killed th...
That is quite punishing
mossy sequoia
it was awful
proud fable
Probably the best run I've ever had in my 300+ hours
I got every ascension for grenades and explosions lmao
mossy sequoia
atomic 
proud fable
Yep
cyan zephyr
😂
proud fable
the door is over there
mossy sequoia
dog was the only fun character
cyan zephyr
I respect dog 🐶
cyan zephyr
I just don’t enjoy playing as birddog
Pretty much any of the other classes are fun, even monkey
thorny parcel
What was the cube of old all about
I made this meme back when you were forced to do cubes, because it was so horrible to encounter them and the punishment was so lethal.
cyan zephyr
Sad I missed out on this game back then
A classic mode should be implemented
Cube and all
proud fable
I made this meme back when you were forced to do cubes, because it was so horrib...
I remember those being random events
holy shit that was awful
If you're playing nightmare mode and your build hasn't taken off yet, you just lose your only res
cyan zephyr
Yeah so, just did a run with cat choosing painkiller instead of ele orb and I ran with my usual bunny… we basically walked our way to the end without any effort
I now understand the OP qualms very clearly
The enemies literally just all stand with 1 smoke grenade or echo orb. Wow
crystal saddle
what a start
lilac mist
skill solution
hoary comet
real
tight venture
Why is the console situation in such aSad state
velvet hamlet
505
fossil flame
I had no idea that you could get triple comeback multiple times a run
gusty mountain
I had no idea that you could get triple comeback multiple times a run
You can get any scroll multiple times in a run as long as you don't have it equipped.
fossil flame
interesting
charred ginkgo
Question, if strike wing has pierce does every enemy hit cause the split arrows to appear or just the first one?
gusty mountain
Question, if strike wing has pierce does every enemy hit cause the split arrows ...
first one
thorny parcel
Wouldn't matter with Energy Blade actually, since it applies to all shots until a weapon hits something.
Could have no split arrows hit enemies. Could have several split arrows appear from several pierced enemies. They'll all receive the buff.
Similar but not exactly the same thing with Fatal Current.
silent osprey
Question, if strike wing has pierce does every enemy hit cause the split arrows ...
one way to test this is through spiritual assault with the sniper +3 pierce jade. from when i last played with it, strike wing creates split arrows for every target pierced. though it has been awhile so might not be right on that.
hallow relic
love it on li , literaly one shot every stage of the final boss
vital acorn
Hey does anyone know why gunfire reborn dlc isn't on xbox?
thorny parcel
Because it's severely outdated.
charred ginkgo
Because xbox sucks
tight venture
Bc the devs for this game and whoever they outsourced it to sucks. Quick cash grab and they never bothered to finish the project.
thorny parcel
Bc the devs for this game and whoever they outsourced it to sucks. Quick cash g...
It's not the devs for this game. They've tried to get 505 games to deal with the situation.
tight venture
Which apparently they can’t 505 can’t handle so the game devs need to do it themselves
Really sad they can’t get Xbox working. Window based platform shit is basically 1:1 same as steam. Simpler than mobile port
PlayStation is semi under stable but still nothing crazy to do. It’s a lack of want and desire to do their job.
Was their decision to port it. They need to do their part
thorny parcel
The alternative to outsourcing it to another company is simply not to make it at all, likely due to staff shortages, a refusal to slow down everything else already under development, or lack of knowledge on how to develop something for a completely different platform.
So would you rather they just not have let the game exist on xbox at all?
tight venture
Yes. Don’t release a broken shit product that you won’t support or update.
gusty mountain
"won't support"
tight venture
That’s exactly what they did. Tossed a man outdated , buggy mess on Xbox and abandoned it.
Not to mention the plasma station port scheduled for last year is just never coming.
Shameful
mossy sequoia
505 is kinda known as a crappy company to work with normally
thorny parcel
It looks outdated now because that's the version that development started on.
They just have to catch up from that point, which is solely in 505's hands.
mossy sequoia
the main team has about as much control of the xbox port as we do right now
thorny parcel
And again, Duoyi Games devs have tried to get 505 to do something about the poor quality, and you can see the result of that from 505 games.
maiden magnet
straight up any weapon in the game including locked weapons?
thorny parcel
No. Only unlocked ones.
It just means some/most/any of your unlocked weapons.
Which actually means normal / normal+large / normal+large+special ammo weapons.
maiden magnet
I see. bummer.
proud fable
You open up a normal run as a level 15 and just roll a rainbow arch or a bloody drill lmao
maiden magnet
star devourer > thunder storm ?
thorny parcel
Depends on the build, but both are pretty mediocre outside of special circumstances.
maiden magnet
Depends on the build, but both are pretty mediocre outside of special circumstan...
I'm using crown prince's elemental build. also, should I always use thunder storm's right click attack or only when it is against crowded groups?
thorny parcel
In that case use either, because Crown Prince has no real preference for specific weapons in an elemental build.
Thunder Storm's right click by default is only really powerful against shielded enemies. Otherwise just use whichever attack.
maiden magnet
gotchu!
maiden magnet
best fire weapon for crown price elemental build?
shrewd aurora
probably still fire tower, I don't think much has changed in that regard for quite a while (they haven't added any new fire weapons, or buffed any of the other ones as far as I'm aware)
if you're not used to it melee can be a bit intimidating on cat but trust me it's better than it sounds
of course (though I haven't tried it yet) the new painkiller buffs probably open up a whole new world of weapon choices for cat and in that case there might be a non fire weapon that's a better choice for your fire weapon on cat nowadays
assuming you run painkiller of course
maiden magnet
interesting
maiden magnet
probably still fire tower, I don't think much has changed in that regard for qui...
hadn't used melee weapons yet, though I'll use fire tower on my next run and see how good it performs.
crystal saddle
might aswell quit here iv won
velvet hamlet
magical supply rainbow >>>>
mossy sequoia
Magical supply glimmering>>>>>>>
thorny parcel
Magical Supply Frenzied Shark >>>>>>>>>>
proud fable
In that case use either, because Crown Prince has no real preference for specifi...
Liar
Fire dragon + flowing light with element gemini >>>
High proc chances, high RoF, and corrosion can be applied via grenades and acidominance III
thorny parcel
You forget the choice was Star Devourer vs Thunder Storm.
Neither of which spell out "Fire Dragon" or "Flowing Light".
proud fable
You said crown prince has no real preference for specific weapons in an elemental build
not crown prince doesn't need either of those two
thorny parcel
That's because he doesn't.
It's how the weapons function besides being elemental that largely matters.
Flowing Light, Icy Spear and many high damage weapons are good for Energy Blade for example.
quartz current
Tiger Cannon S+++ Tier
Did we weapon swap to spam scope just to micro Skilled Trick stacks? Absolutely.
thorny parcel
That Painkiller says otherwise.
hallow jasper
can anyone plz help me
IM so desperate for help rn
i don't know whats good to run here
yo?
cyan zephyr
That Painkiller says otherwise.
Painkiller turns the game into a walking simulator
It was by far the most OP thing I’ve experienced after you mentioned how it basically negates elemental orb..
hallow jasper
Mccary can u help me? r u good?
cyan zephyr
I am not
hallow jasper
its like should i go for sunder or illusion? they both got OP leg inscriptions on them tho so its hard to decide :/
cyan zephyr
But, ask anyway and I will try to help, if I am wrong, Altanna will swoop in with straight facts
cyan zephyr
its like should i go for sunder or illusion? they both got OP leg inscriptions o...
The answer is, it depends
hallow jasper
its between these too. either illusion or sunder
hallow jasper
lol no
that fireball on crit melts thru everything. tho illusion with op damage good i do even more. a bit of a pickle here
thorny parcel
I'd go for the Illusion simply because it has a gemini.
Could turn the gemini into Element Share, get a fire/lightning/corrosion weapon to gemini with it, then take advantage of the elemental effect, elemental advantage and +65% total DMG against enemies with an elemental effect.
Personally I'd take a corrosion offhand weapon.
cyan zephyr
@velvet hamlet is this weapon up your alley, painkiller , counter violence, gradual improvement 😂
27.6 crit
.4x crit
.2x crit
Corrosion
30%+ elite & boss
cyan zephyr
It’s still offset directionally but the Ray is perfect, now that I can hear the noise it’s pretty easy to press grip to nail it
It’s on the no no list, along with rainbow, but I wanted to test out painkiller and decided to go all out cheese
Now painkiller is on the no no list haha
Painkiller is literally insane, 1 smoke bomb makes it to where all enemies are ignoring the players, actively killing each other, and taking miasma. There were a few times we had to actually try to figure out where the last manipulated guy was because he was just standing somewhere obscure doing nothing and we couldn’t move on lol
Hm. I guess I see why no one is really complaining about it, apparently it’s one of many ongoing buffs for all characters at every update
velvet hamlet
yes
proud fable
Flowing Light, Icy Spear and many high damage weapons are good for Energy Blade ...
Energy blade has nothing to do with elements though
And in your first argument, you said how the choice was Star Devourer vs Thunder Storm.
Why we go back to how he has no preference in general
maiden magnet
immoral question
is there a way to unlock weapons, scrolls and talents (cheat)? I switched to a different platform and there's absolutely no way I'm grinding all that stuff back from zero
thorny parcel
You can get someone else's save file. That's the best you'll get.
velvet hamlet
yeah
maiden magnet
You can get someone else's save file. That's the best you'll get.
I see. in which file should I put the user data?
thorny parcel
From a pin, but works for the same purpose:
For save lost:
Make your way to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\ID number\1217060\remote. The dat files are the "save file", then just simply put the dat I gave you there.
This is for the Steam version, of course.
proud fable
If u want mine hmu
I have everything
(unless its illegal or the devs don't want me to)
If Fire + Lightning can be called manipulation or hallucination
And fire + corrosion can be called combustion or explosion
What is lighting + corrosion?
Miasma and?
cursive axle
Smog, blight, pestilence, degeneration, putrefaction, scourge, withering, collapsing, spoiling, eroding, tainted, atrophying, dissolving are all in that somewhat adjacent ball park. I kind of like blight, eroding and withering.
cloud tinsel
chrome belfry
Quick question, does ember eruption work with weapons like the fire knife, i assume it would but last i heard about this game the 1 mag weapons were kinda funky with what applies to them
proud fable
Is ember eruption some li shit?
chrome belfry
Doggy dual wield
"When the remaining ammo in the mag is 30% or less (or equal to 1), +40% weapon DMG"
It should
But im just checking to be sure
Cuz reload skills DONT work
proud fable
Ah that thing
No it does not last I checked
I think everything related to mag size things don't proc on bows and kunai
Including pre-emptive strike (I'm pretty sure that one doesn't)
Regardless if it did work, thats just permanent 40% weapon damage
proud fable
I think the equal to one thing is for things with like 2 or 3 mag
chrome belfry
But its only if your mag is below 30% or those niche cases
chrome belfry
So i literally dont get anything out of this lmao
proud fable
I believe so
chrome belfry
N i c e
proud fable
A permanent 40% damage boost is too strong
chrome belfry
Sustained fire it is
proud fable
That ones just generally better regardless
proud fable
unless you have some ooga mag, which would result in decreased damage, making the 40% worth less than it would if it were some higher damage, smaller mag weapon lol
Sustained fire is better
and imo more fun
More damage = more ded things
more ded things = fun
chrome belfry
Also
I love the fire tower
Its so funny
Oh god
Dual-edge
Why does it show up every run
I guess i do have damage resist
We ball
Holy shit this wild hunt
chrome belfry
💯
chrome belfry
I had the auto shotty and a wild hunt one run
proud fable
but not a lot of boss damage
proud fable
Oooh sounds fun
chrome belfry
So fun
It also found a 63 MAG one this rub
I*
This run is the icy spear + flame knife
chrome belfry
I got twin gunner and 1 level of ammo regen
proud fable
Would recommend
chrome belfry
Literally infinite ammo
proud fable
The ultimate way to test if a weapon is busted out of its fucking mind:
if you can complete a reincarnation 8 run with 2 of em as dog
chrome belfry
I just started playing lmao
proud fable
it sounds easy but because of the DAMN PENGUINS ON THEIR WANNABE HORSES-
chrome belfry
Maybe have like 8 hours
proud fable
ah
chrome belfry
Uhm
proud fable
lmao
chrome belfry
I did a dual icy spear build once
You were saying
proud fable
Whenever she is defeated
She just...
her death sounds are strange
the community has made many memes on this 
chrome belfry
proud fable
Did someone say icy spear run
proud fable
proud fable
Oh hell no lmao
proud fable
Not that the knife is known for its explosions aoe
proud fable
bet
chrome belfry
(100%)
proud fable
if you made it past the desert you can make it past the fjord
chrome belfry
Via a chest
chrome belfry
if you made it past the desert you can make it past the fjord
I have not made it yet
I died 4 times lmao
proud fable
yes but imo the desert is harder than the fjord
chrome belfry
Not for me
proud fable
as it has those damn arsonists and your build is usually less developed
chrome belfry
Desert easy lol
proud fable
However the white sharks are quite a pain in the ass
so I can see why you might prefer the desert
proud fable
I dont hwve too much trouble with the arsonists
h o w
proud fable
They are fast, high rof, decent damage, tanky
and they spew fire
fire is hot
very hot
chrome belfry
I dont let them shoot me lmao
Their range isnt that big and i play a game where you have to kite enemies 24/7
proud fable
I dont let them shoot me lmao
do the same for the fjord then
proud fable
Their range isnt that big and i play a game where you have to kite enemies 24/7
Nightmare mode they probably suck the most
chrome belfry
Probably yeah
proud fable
You are on the easiest difficulty, after all
chrome belfry
I dont play on super higj difficulty tho
Yeah
Kinda yknow
Hwve to beat the bos
Boss
Lmao
proud fable
I dont play on super higj difficulty tho
you should unlock the reincarnation levels tho
chrome belfry
Dunno how
proud fable
Hwve to beat the bos
ye lol
chrome belfry
Ouch
proud fable
Reincarnation levels still provide a challenge, but if you are skilled enough they become easier than even elite mode
chrome belfry
But yeah i play a game called deep rock galactic
proud fable
I've heard of it
proud fable
dam lol
chrome belfry
After 300 hours i have become decent at it
(The grenade launcher can shoot nukes)
(:))
proud fable
(The grenade launcher can shoot nukes)
sounds like a certain dog we know
except the dog is the grenade launcher
proud fable
Wooo
chrome belfry
Become baller plz
proud fable
well?
chrome belfry
5% rof on crit 75% cap
Compared to 50% on burning while not havinf fire
Lmao
Good for bosses i suppose
proud fable
yeah
chrome belfry
God this build is busted
I even got 33% chance to refund skill
And dash
With triple dash
I dont have any duration tho
Im craving it
Strike wing
Neat
Cool weapon
proud fable
Strike wing
Big bow :D
chrome belfry
Also have lucky shot chance after critting
proud fable
Dude
chrome belfry
Or dashing
proud fable
you should be saving that luck for like
chrome belfry
Rather
proud fable
You're gonna hit the harder difficulties and all ur gonna get is frenzied sharks and like
no retreat
You will be sentenced to no retreat and persistent
chrome belfry
I HAD A CAT RUN WITH SPEED FOR EVERY 3% SHIELD, TRIPLE DASH, SPEED AFTER DASH
MID DESERT
chrome belfry
Lol
But yeah
In the desert
I had the fire tower stick
With max energy blade
Or whatever that skill is called
The damage after casting skill
proud fable
Energy blade
chrome belfry
And the scroll which stuns enemies when dashinf near them
proud fable
Thunder step
proud fable
Awh dude I would kill for a sandbox run
proud fable
Enhanced thunderstep strikes and freezes 3 enemies within 25 meters
imagine that with scrolls that reduce dash cooldown and have a chance to reset the cooldown
chrome belfry
Mfw i just two shot an oni
chrome belfry
Yeh whatever fuck its called lmao
I dont rember
Also i killed lu wu within 10 seconds this run
proud fable
Once lost a god R8 orb only cat to one of the elite fuckers T_T
chrome belfry
Oof
proud fable
but I just got sniped by its wave attack, and literally went from full hp to dead
And I alr used my res
I was pissed
proud fable
options?
chrome belfry
I have elemental relic, ammo recoverer, and dormant bullet
Ammo recoverer not needed
Elemental relic just qont work
Cuz ice spear
proud fable
Hmm
chrome belfry
And dormant bullet prob wont either
proud fable
One of your spears has corrosion ball
chrome belfry
It does like half of a basic archer's hp lmao
proud fable
Elemental relic would boost your damage by the smallest amount lol
Its still a damage boost tho
chrome belfry
Im up to 52 stacks of dual edge btw
proud fable
Better than the other two, which literally do nothing
chrome belfry
Im scared
chrome belfry
I have 30% damage resistance but still
proud fable
Try 400 
proud fable
Its only gonna increase
the best defense is a really strong offense
thorny parcel
Quick question, does ember eruption work with weapons like the fire knife, i ass...
Ember Eruption works if the weapon has at least 1 of these things.
- The magazine is at 30/40/50% or below.
- The magazine is at 1.
Since Glimmering, Prism, Arc Light, Icy Spear, Golden Bow, Strike Wing, Tiger Cannon and Fire Tower all have a magazine of 1 by default, they will all qualify for the second option.
chrome belfry
The best defense is not sucking ass
proud fable
Ember Eruption works if the weapon has at least 1 of these things.
1. The magazi...
Wait so the game devs just give those items a free 40%+ damage boost
thorny parcel
Yes.
proud fable
Oh wait
chrome belfry
It is what it is then
chrome belfry
Indont need the damage anyway lmao
thorny parcel
You act like +40% permanently is a big deal
proud fable
Indont need the damage anyway lmao
Ye lol
thorny parcel
Crown Prince has 3 of them.
chrome belfry
I mean its not bad
proud fable
Crown Prince has 3 of them.
not weapon damage
thorny parcel
Pyrodominance, Electrodominance and Acidominance all are permanent +40% for certain elements.
thorny parcel
And Ember Eruption only for certain weapons.
proud fable
And Ember Eruption only for certain weapons.
ha I beat you to it
thorny parcel
Similarly, Preemptive Strike will work permanently on all of those weapons too, because their magazine is only either full or empty, and you can't fire when empty.
chrome belfry
Not the one which does bonus damage on last shot tho right
Thats what i remember it doing
proud fable
It can be 180%
thorny parcel
All of those except Tiger Cannon don't technically have a reload.
So they don't work with reload requirements.
Because they automatically refill the magazine, rather than go through a reload animation.
chrome belfry
Yeee
WHAT IS THID LUCK
WHAT THE FHCK
GIVE IT A SECOND TO UPLOAD THE DFEENSHOT FROM XBOX
B R O
proud fable
??
chrome belfry
proud fable
Did someone say glimmering run?