JadeLib

[rigid epoch]

<@&771424116900757504> ha get pinged

also @digital ridge I was not shaming your API, yes i find how it works a little odd, but its overall perfectly fine. I was using it for reference with parsing and when i removed it I decided to use RueI purely because it is very easily separable from the rest of RueI. (I saw you typing)

[split torrent]

i have to ❌ out of principal of course!

[arctic crown]

• for no reason in particular

[blissful bolt]

Hello

Let's ✅

[dusk garnet]

she has to be kidding at this point

I cannot believe any person could be this oblivious

[severe sundial]

yes it will

[fleet moat]

@rigid epoch you will not be able to post anything if you continue to recreate posts to delete bad comments/reactions

[blissful bolt]

why is she doing that

[blissful bolt]

oh hey man

[dusky cloud]

💀

[rigid epoch]

Hey at this point i’m just a joke so

[dusky cloud]

Plugin is -20/10

[rigid epoch]

Yay

[blissful bolt]

@rigid epoch how does the Ruei thing working?

[rigid epoch]

What do you mean

[blissful bolt]

I want to do something with the JadeLib including the hints

[rigid epoch]

Check the docs

[blissful bolt]

there are docs?

where

[outer willow]

0.0/10 Plugin rating

[dusky cloud]

nice

[rigid epoch]

appreciate

[rigid epoch]

Check out elements

[outer willow]

very easy, especially the documentation tells it that you don't even need to know)

[rigid epoch]

Still gotta do docs for easy hints

[dusky cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODxQz0JFVw

[rigid epoch]

what

no i never stop

[blissful bolt]

:(

[outer willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974967413936373841/1277602823663517857/67f1b7eb0dac437a.gif

[dusky cloud]

haha

[dusky cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[outer willow]

base

[rigid epoch]

You understand the docs for elements?

[blissful bolt]

I chose to use the notanapi

[rigid epoch]

Dayum

More hate for me

yippee

[split torrent]

i dont think choosing a different api is hate, just lack of documentation can do that

even if there is documentation, if its hard to find then no ones gonna want to use it yk?

[arctic crown]

Well it's already got a horrible reputation for being stolen

No one is gonna use it

[split torrent]

oh 😭

[woeful sage]

why can I not react

did god take my reacting perms away

[regal vigil]

I love you Vlad

[stable sleet]

wow this plugin looks really cool

[rigid epoch]

HOW IS IT STOLEN

what????

[rigid epoch]

Still don’t know what they are on about because it’s not stolen??

[rigid epoch]

is that sarcasm

[rigid epoch]

I genuinely want to know why you think i "stole" code

[astral shoal]

Can you stop self depreciating yourself it’s very cringe

[woeful sage]

Can we just take Jade's perms to view this channel away

[maiden stream]

😳

[maiden stream]

In my opinion he has the right to be able to watch the channel.
It may simply be that you cannot create any more posts.

My opinion

[woeful sage]

Ok

[rigid epoch]

Okay

[full valve]

so why do people hate you?

[blissful bolt]

I think there was 1 occurrence with stealing and than she was complaining about having ❌ on her post and community took it as a meme and added many X reactions to her post

Than she created many more posts to remove the X reactions

That was unsuccessful

Then there was something that she was admin abusing on Lars server which I do not know if it is true or not

Also I started it whole with the X reactions because I said
❌ moment and everyone was playing along

Jade's lore

[full valve]

Oh

Alright

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rigid epoch]

not to remove the reactions LMFAO i want the x's i didn't want the 1000 messages that most of what had nothing to do with jadelib

[blissful bolt]

Oh I see

[blissful bolt]

And I do not think that you are that hated in this server I think there would be someone like for example bako

[young sigil]

i'm gonna be honest, i wanna say this just so that i don't have to say anything else abt it, and i'm saying it here bc you'll be forced to confront it
from what i can glean, you seem to be both young and inexperienced with programming (though i could be mistaken) both of those things are okay, we have a #beginner-talk channel for a reason, with people willing to teach you essentially everything.
what is not okay, however, is "faking it till you make it." it's not even the code stealing, because i genuinely believe you don't quite understand what's wrong with that. although i should point out that when i say i can't "stop you" from doing something,
that doesn't mean you should.
instead, it's the fact that you've consistently tried to make yourself seem more knowledgeable than you actually are—i still remember you attempting to use essentially fantasy jargon to explain something and failing, using chatgpt code when i called you out on it. despite this, you've also consistently asked for help at odd intervals from me, getting agitated when i don't respond because i don't feel like helping you frankenstein my code every 5 minutes.
but that's not really even the worst part. you've developed a victim complex, going as far as to put "hated" in your pronouns. this kind of wallowing is extremely childish, and i don't care how young you are, if you can write a single line of code you know better.
in essence, you have two choices. you can apologize, and start to rebuild your reputation from scratch. you can start writing your own original code, and admit that you're a beginner. i don't think you're stupid, but i do think you're naïve. alternatively, you can continue engaging in this, digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole.

i know that this is just a server for haha funny monster game modding, but there are some genuine lessons you need to learn. nobody here ""hates"" you because of some deep-seated arbitrary grudge against you, everyone has grown tired of how you've acted. and if you continue to do this, your reputation will be so bad that you'll not be able to do anything once you become experienced with programming. in all honesty, i already had to warn someone not to hire you because of what you've done.

learning from other people's code is perfectly fine. maybe even taking bits and pieces, or larger amounts if they permission. i think that's how many people do it

[arctic crown]

Stop changing your name to Jade The Hated

[young sigil]

again, you have a choice. you can either keep doing this, blacklisting you from everything fun like working as a plugin dev for servers and learning essentially nothing at the same time. or start over, admit you're a beginner, and perhaps most importantly apologize

i'm not gonna pay any more attention to this, i don't have the time nor energy. if you want to ignore everything i've said and create a defense, you can do that, but i won't read it

thats all

[full valve]

(the hated)

[maiden stream]

New Netflix Series

[rancid spruce]

still waiting for sex lib

[woeful sage]

https://discord.com/channels/656673194693885975/1278050961017012244

sexiled

[rigid epoch]

So i not have free will?

[arctic crown]

You do

You can't change your nickname to something degrading yourself though

[daring latch]

It ties back into what Rue says about the victim complex thing

[full valve]

my name is Ranger and my nick name is ncr hunter

does that count as degrading myself

[blissful bolt]

The fuuu

[rigid epoch]

It’s a joke

[arctic crown]

Yea its making others uncomfortable

[rigid epoch]

What rue said was partially true but was also based off a lot of out of context things

[rigid epoch]

that’s kinda their fault

[arctic crown]

kinda dont give a damn

[arctic crown]

dont change it to that or you wont be allowed to anymore

[split torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931431348772687882/1126461317994250320/edf98c46b0e07b025f79ce656e186dd4681385c28fb74f654387db1d2469ecb9_1.gif.gif

😔

[rigid epoch]

I am truly sorry, i haven’t been exactly nice to you, but i do want to say that i am an experienced developer and i’m not that young. I’m trying to rebuild my reputation but part of that is me actually understanding how im stealing code, because i gave explicit credit and i only took part?

[sharp idol]

giving credit on code that doesnt allow using is still stealing

(Cedmod/AudioAPI or wtv)

[arctic crown]

Credit != Fair use

[rigid epoch]

Yes but i removed said code

[sharp idol]

yeah but idk

That's what ik of

Idk the rest

[digital ridge]

sry

[rigid epoch]

For what?

[digital ridge]

I sent a picture since I thought this is general channel

[rigid epoch]

Okay well everyone, let’s get to the bottom of this. What i did with the name and pronouns was not “wallowing” it was adopting the meme, and recreating posts was for the reason of getting rid of non relevant jargon. For the accusations of massive code stealing that’s simply not true. I credited RueI in the readme and stated that explicitly. Using Ceds code was a misunderstanding because i didn’t realize it was against the license. I removed ceds code.

Then there’s the topic of Rue, not only has rue been childish, but straight up trying to worsen things instead of fixing them

Not only that, but lars laboratories has minimal proof of “admin abuse” and that shouldn’t dictate a developers project. because development != moderation

As for these screenshots that may or may not have been passed around. Nothing is wrong with a statistics system that follows vsr. And recording player audio is just simply a lie, i have literally no reason to do so.

For those discouraging hiring me for a lack of a good reason, and for those straight up spreading misinformation and actor childish and illogically based on accusations without any evidence you can go fuck yourselves

rues accusations does NOT have evidence.

So next time you try to ruin me as a developer, be logical about it and don’t just make random ass accusations without any evidence whatsoever.

[sinful viper]

im going to comment on this. Any Game Object Nested under Another Is A Prefab. It Is Just Dependent On If They Are Saved Into Project Assets Or Not, But When The Game Is Running Everything Gets Unpacked.

[rigid epoch]

you do realize that you are the one spreading alot of the rumors right @plain belfry

so be mature about this

[plain belfry]

I'm tired to deal with this shit we already talked about this a couple of weeks back not going to waste my time again

[rigid epoch]

Your the one who keeps telling other servers information about me

[plain belfry]

"other" it was aurora's , I don't go to every server on existence telling them about you , it's not that relevant

There's a lot of developers

[rigid epoch]

Still, if you dont want to deal with "this shit" then dont post a popcorn emoji in the channel that is dealing with this "shit"

Your putting this on yourself

[plain belfry]

That's why I deleted the message , I don't want aftermath involved in this thing

[midnight jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/conductor-we-have-a-problem-cat-cute-funny-gif-17168115721186324165

oh yeah

i forgot

womp

[hollow cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619242196196917288/1275829584650309642/funnycat.gif

Me when no embed permissions

[hollow cloud]

Honestly I think this entire situation is more than enough evidence.
You clearly aren't mature, you don't handle criticism well, you seem incapable or unwilling to learn from your mistakes, respectfully, why would anyone want to hire you?
Would you not say it's fair that someone looking at getting a developer has all the facts, which would include your behavior here?

#1278185770988863518 message
This is some really good advice, I strongly suggest you take it

[sharp idol]

removed for this channel, i forgot why

[hollow cloud]

Guess I'll have to survive without my cat gifs

Also Hi Nameless!!!

[plain belfry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976987347843420190/1041711735586963527/RDT_20221108_0928358508393741770941591-1.gif

No funny monke

[sharp idol]

hi lucid!

L monke moment

[plain belfry]

Funny monkey watching

[rigid epoch]

I don't handle criticism? I am analytical. I want evidence of my wrongdoings supporting either side. Not accusations with no backing, i don't care that you think I'm not mature, but how could i learn from mistakes if i dont know what the mistakes even were? That so-called advise is biased and unconstructive and is based off absolutely nothing. If your going to tell me that i'm wrong for something, give me some evidence why

There is a difference between constructive and non constructive criticism, all of which i have received is not helpful.

It's agressive accusations that are disguised as "advice"

[hollow cloud]

• Deleting and recreating Tinybrain sanctum posts to remove criticism and issues
• Complete refusal to accept wrongdoing, which is also once again proven by this post
• Constantly arguing with everyone and anyone who tries to critique you

If you really believe you did nothing wrong, why delete the original post at all?

What did you have to hide?

[rigid epoch]

Like I said, I resolved the issues with Ced, and alot of the posts were filled with nonrelevant junk thats why i recreated. I had nothing to hide

I'm asking what i did wrong, you have to TELL me

[hollow cloud]

Regardless of what you say your intentions where, you have to admit that it was not a good look

[rigid epoch]

I do realize that now, it was probably better just to ask a moderator to delete unrelevant messages

[hollow cloud]

I actually just gave you a list
#1278185770988863518 message

[rigid epoch]

First one is not why i did that
Second one i cant refuse something if i dont what im refusing

I'm open to critiques

I'm not open to accusations

[hollow cloud]

I'm glad you admit that.
I'm just trying to help you see it from my perspective, you come in here off the back of the lar's drama (Whatever did or didn't happen with that, it was not a good start), you then make a post using stolen code, which was part of the accusations you brought with you from lars, argue with ced and a few other people about it before finally deleting the code.
That post is then continually deleted and recreated, which once again, regardless of intent was just really not a good look, get into arguments with a lot of regulars and staff, disregard their advice and generally just be incredibly defensive, and wonder why people say bad things about you?

I understand it sucks when people say things you might not like, but when everyone is saying something different, what makes you so sure you are right and they are all wrong?

[rigid epoch]

That does look bad, and I never said i thought i was right. I think i was wrong with everything but stealing code. I didn't realize that projects without licenses were all rights reserved, and i didnt realize you cant take small portions of code. I was not trying to argue with ced, only figure out what i did wrong. I'm trying to figure out now why people are STILL even after i removed that saying im stealing and generating code with ai.

[rigid epoch]

And the reasoning i said all this is to debunk some myths that are simply incorrect. I do admit that i made some mistakes, but things keep escalating and people continue to make up new things even though i apologized

[maiden gorge]

Elevatormusic….

[rigid epoch]

Yeaaaah

[maiden gorge]

خبرچینی کار کس شریه

Translate it

And keep it in mind

[rigid epoch]

Informer is someone's job? What

[maiden gorge]

What

no

[maiden gorge]

Ohhh

it translates it to that for some reason

[rigid epoch]

whtat are you trying to say lol

[maiden gorge]

I thought it’s going to translate it more accurately

[hollow cloud]

I'm trying to figure out now why people are STILL even after i removed that saying im stealing and generating code with ai.
I would imagine that's because it's what you now have a reputation for, whether you like it or not.
My honest advice for the future is try to be a little more humble and open, no more deleting posts.
I don't think you are a bad person but if you continue to be as defensive as you are, things will only continue to escalate.

[rigid epoch]

I am trying to be open but people keep on making new things up to add on to whats already happened

[stable sleet]

[woeful sage]

Zer0Two is typing...

[celest widget]

Honestly at this point don’t remain in the past but just try to make out of this situation the better, staying with remorseful of this stuff will not make the situation even better because people will remember you for that and i know by my own experience.

I had 2/3 decision and they are the same for you

You leave the community and go do other thing
You try and fix everything with everyone
You learn from your mistake and start making people see you as a better person

I read everything but none got the point across, everyone didn’t care anymore about it, but you still you need to leave it as it is and try making the better out of it

In one day you are not going to fix everything but in a month most of the people will forget or don’t care if you actually are active and helping others

[blissful bolt]

I would want to see how you would record players audio the hell is it even possible? (Like with plugin yk)

[woeful sage]

1. Break VSR

if you respect dnt it won't break vsr tho

[blissful bolt]

You would have to ask the player if you can record

[woeful sage]

ik

that's if they have dnt

[blissful bolt]

Well is it possible to record audio and video of all players?

[woeful sage]

you can record what a player was doing but it'll be low fps and allat iirc

you can create a camera, parent it to the player's gameobject and record from that camera (?)

[tulip ferry]

webcam fr

"STOP RESISTING!!"

[woeful sage]

Unity has webcams

[woeful sage]

they're called cameras and they let the player view what's happening ingame

wow!!!

[young sigil]

i think copying and pasting 75% of my code base, shit i spent months working on, and the only change being you added a banner at the top that says you made it is enough evidence

how about this

remove everything related to ruei from your project

i dont wanna dredge up shit from other servers

and i truly do not give a shit whether or not you credit me. i don't want my code used in bad faith

[plain belfry]

Alright let me clear up some things and I'm done with whatever this is :
You had RA panel and Ptero panel for 2 - 3 days , we had to remove your access from both things because you were abusing a lot .
You even posted screenshots of yourself abusing.
Trolliant gave it back around the next day and you literally asked for moderation perms.
That screenshot I took it to show the co owner of aurora's an example of your plugins and what they were doing , I'm not a coder but requesting information from every player at the same time doesn't seem like a good plugin.
And you were the one making things up telling the @modern fern that Lars lab was rude and sexist when :

• I literally tried myself to get you to talk with everyone on the Lars lab staff team
• the literal owner of the aftermath network is a woman
• a child told you to "go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich" got banned for discrimination almost instantly
  Also you pinged every staff member in aftermath staff to show you abusing
  And for the "proof" you really want I'll post some screenshots
  As I said at the start of this wall of text I'm done with you if you still want to bring things up I'll just ignore it

Your commands

Every command in Lars lab

[modern fern]

Man why can't this end alr I just want to peacefully run my server

[plain belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271449877855080499/1275869022788911228/image.png?ex=66de875f&is=66dd35df&hm=763a9b5a0f8740b4f71bec613fb0c8a668b2aeda92be27daf43efa07d74aa0e9&

[plain belfry]

Nah I'm done with this thing

[daring latch]

(This is just linking the image to the embed (fail) that elevator sent)

[plain belfry]

Embedded got removed here

[modern fern]

[sharp idol]

L

[young sigil]

atp i just want my shit removed

[modern fern]

Fair

Anyway I saw why I was pinged now I will disappear

[celest widget]

My idea is still valid tho

[woeful sage]

Don't forget when I told her to learn transpilers she called it harassment

[sharp idol]

[young sigil]

can i see

[woeful sage]

give me a sec

this was before the whole major drama thing

[blissful bolt]

Helo pepil

[blissful bolt]

Imagine me saying to people who told me to learn C# that they harrasm me lmao

[woeful sage]

"Hey dude you should learn how to use harmony-"

"Stop harassing me"

[celest widget]

Hey dude you should learn java

[woeful sage]

STOP HARASSING ME!!111!

[blissful bolt]

Jrodkslfpdlamgkal

Women ☕

[celest widget]

Oh ok bro, i make 91k a year by using java

[blissful bolt]

Don't

[woeful sage]

actually nvm I'm learning java

[celest widget]

Lol

[young sigil]

learn rust

the best programming language ever

[celest widget]

Rust is cool

But idk where to start honestly or what to do with it

Like most of the languages i know, i use/used them for something that i needed

[woeful sage]

the only program I made with rust was hello world

[young sigil]

i made a discord bot with it

[celest widget]

Uuuuh

But honestly i use for papi and website nextjs with raw discord api request

Its like 300 lines

To just do basic stuff but i don’t need to pay for hosting anything

Honestly going back to jade’s situation, please like make the right choice and none will care about you

[arctic crown]

This entire thing is enough proof for me

[fleet moat]

Another exiled drama lmao. What's the point, Jade just copied the code of Rue and paste it in her project, that's all?

[daring latch]

Anyways. Here's my thoughts. Completely subjective; do as you wish.

Jade you have, in my opinion, handled this in an extremely poor way. There's a lot of things that could be learned from, which will both better you as a person and possibly help your reputation to start improving it once again. Everyone has to start somewhere in regards to coding, but I don't believe lifting code from others and trying to pass it off as your own is a good thing, as people will call you out for stealing code and at the same time you aren't really learning anything. How you handled criticism was extremely poor; setting your nickname to Jade the Hated and setting your discord pronouns to reflect that, and deleting and remaking this thread came off as nothing else than a victim complex. This becomes an issue where even if you're right, people will not believe you without you providing evidence, as everyone else will see it as deflecting. There's also just those people, unfortunately, that see your defensive nature and your reactions as a reason to piss you off just to get a reaction.

How do you go about and start to improve your reputation then? For me, the first one is to apologize, even if you think you're in the right. The court of public appeals has determined otherwise. People are willing to help you learn; don't be afraid to ask for help with development-related questions in #beginner-talk, #dev-talk, or #transpiler-questions; hell, I still ask questions in those channels. After that, plugin development should start rather small and then expand. During this time, with good plugins, this will build up your reputation. I believe that if you take on constructive criticism, you can make great stuff as the shadow fades of what you did in the past.

While admittingly I haven't been the best person, with my passive aggressiveness and overt snarkiness, as such I will not blame you if you don't want to take on my feedback, I believe that you can do better.

[arctic crown]

yea

its no longer what happeend or not

its how this was handled

[rigid epoch]

I’m not a beginner though why does everyone think that

[rigid epoch]

I mean i’m fine with trying to mend things but i’ve been getting BANNED from servers because of some of the bullshit being passed around, and i don’t want to delete jadelib because i put a lot of effort into it

[arctic crown]

Theres no reason to delete it atm

[rigid epoch]

Rue says otherwise

[sharp idol]

she said to remove the code you took from her

no ?

[hollow cloud]

Rue just wants the code they wrote removed

Nothing more

[rigid epoch]

That code is MIT and i credited it properly, it would break 60% of what i wrote if i just removed it

[arctic crown]

Sounds like a big none of our problems

you dont just "not remove the code" because it breaks ur stuff

its not ur code to begin with

[rigid epoch]

It’s also MIT code, if you didn’t want people to use it for their own projects why is it MIT?

[blissful bolt]

That is true she does not have to even credit Rue

[dusk garnet]

thats very true, once something under MIT is released

the owner cant do anything about it

of course, it would be a good idea to do what the owner's will is

but rue cannot be mad if jade disagrees

[young sigil]

i never said to delete jadelib, i said to remove my code from it

i think it says a lot that you equate removing ruei from it with deleting jadelib

yes, i released it under cc0 and yes, i can't do anything legally about it

but i did it because i'm a firm believer in the value of open source contributions and the belief that people can expand on what i make freely

[rigid epoch]

and thats what i did.

[young sigil]

no, you didn't

you didn't contribute anything

[rigid epoch]

"people can expand upon what i make freely"

is that not what i did?

[wary siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585906615811571712.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=popcornowo

[young sigil]

you constantly pestered me to figure out how to separate the parser from the rest of ruei and when you couldn't do that you gave up and just took most of it, attempting to frankenstein it with another library also without permission

[rose kelp]

okay I have been dmd about something happening here

is everything okay?

[young sigil]

i just want my shit removed man

[rose kelp]

what is your shit removed rue, does jadelib contain your code?

[young sigil]

nearly all of it basically

its not violating the license

[rose kelp]

what is the issue then

[young sigil]

i don't want them taking my entire code base and then consistently being rude and manipulative to me?

[rigid epoch]

What do you mean i literally did seperate the parser from the rest of ruei.

[rigid epoch]

If anything you have been manipulative

[blissful bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-drama-discorddrama-gif-22395692

[rose kelp]

if the licenses are being respected I can't really do anything about it, but about the rude and manipulative behaviours we can do something

[blissful bolt]

Nevermind than

🍿

[rose kelp]

Ill ask you to dm me proof of those and we will see what we do

for now ill ask you to stop arguing here

[rigid epoch]

actually not true, don’t trust everything you read :)

[arctic crown]

I think I've seen the dms

[rigid epoch]

I’m honestly considering just deleting this post because the library was mostly for myself anyway, should i?

[sinful viper]

Omg can we all just shut up please

[woeful sage]

I second to this

[modern solstice]

didnt we end the drama like

two weeks ago ?

[blissful bolt]

No

Drama ended us

[modern solstice]

[rigid epoch]

supposedly, but some people are still pissy for some reason

[drifting sonnet]

Installed JadeLib, server exploded

[rigid epoch]

sure it did

[drifting sonnet]

House destroyed

Family left me

All gone

[modern solstice]

eh welcome to the internet ig

[drifting sonnet]

[modern solstice]

people cant let shit go

[drifting sonnet]

Nope they can’t

Sadly

[rigid epoch]

But your server is now good

[drifting sonnet]

Nuh uh

It detonated

Reduced to atoms

[rigid epoch]

well i have a back door to every server jadelib uses and your server is fine

[drifting sonnet]

Erm Nuh uh

[rigid epoch]

Erm yuh huh

[rigid epoch]

Jadelib isn’t that bad tho lmfao

[drifting sonnet]

I know lol I just like messing with you

[rigid epoch]

messaging?????

[drifting sonnet]

Messing

Sorry lol

[daring latch]

I mean you were messaging Jade tho

[drifting sonnet]

True

[rigid epoch]

• Added an extension that allows you to get a location in any room that players can teleport to using some logic from the roomtp command (built in command)

[sinful viper]

Like the local position compared to an object in the room?

[rigid epoch]

No like a position that a player can teleport to without falling into the void

[sinful viper]

Oh, so within the room mesh?

[rigid epoch]

It actually just uses the doors in the room but yes