My Model's mouth no longer moves on PC | VTube Studio Headquarters | Page 1

ruby sleet May 31, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Not sure if anyone has had this issue but it just started happening for me this week. I usually use my iphone to track over wifi ( i purchased the Vtube studio PRO on my phone). Not sure if this is relevent but recently i also conntected it thru a usb to a friend's laptop for an off collab. And it was also working fine on her laptop. This week on Wednesday and had no issues connecting but then i noticed even tho the rest of my tracking was doing fine my model's mouth was no moving only on my pc. But I could see that the tracking on my phone was working because the mouth for my model on my phone was moving. I've tried removing and readding the model that I purchased from booth and that didn't work. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling vtube studio on my pc and that didn't do anything either. I've checked all the physics and sensitvity and it seems to be fine(?) Ive tried having it sync with my mic and i can see the bars moving around so its definitely reading my mic but the model's mouth is still not opening.

ruby sleet Jun 1, 2024, 9:23 AM

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Please I still really need help

somber plume Jun 1, 2024, 10:34 PM

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ruby sleet Please I still really need help

Have you checked the parameter setup in vts?

ruby sleet Jun 1, 2024, 10:37 PM

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I’ve checked everything that I could and it looks like they all match what I have on my phone and I think they all match h

ruby sleet Jun 3, 2024, 1:38 PM

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The issue started occurring after I had done an off collab where I connected my phone to a friend’s laptop idk if that helps to figure out the issue

somber plume Jun 3, 2024, 1:47 PM

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Can you screenshot your parameter settings for the mouth that you have on your computer?

ruby sleet Jun 4, 2024, 4:44 AM

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ah yes let me get that right now

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im assuming you mean these?

ruby sleet Jun 4, 2024, 4:48 AM

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somber plume Have you checked the parameter setup in vts?

please let me know if im wrong ... im honestly pretty stupid and bad with technology

somber plume Jun 4, 2024, 11:34 AM

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ruby sleet

Hmm those appear to be set up correctly. Can you record a video with the model tracking you and the settings open to show mouth open while you attempt to open and close your mouth?

ruby sleet Jun 4, 2024, 1:56 PM

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I can do that later tonight

dusty yarrow Jun 6, 2024, 1:38 AM

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mostly i dont recommend mouth open input go 0-1

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@ruby sleet i do 0-0.4

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 5:42 AM

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dusty yarrow <@1159371940448960562> i do 0-0.4

I think I’ve tried a bunch of different outputs but it didn’t help but let me try again

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Yeah it didn’t do anything …and like I’ve said I’ll have my model up on my phone at the same time with the same outputs and all and I see it moving on my phone it just isn’t moving on my pc

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i tried recording my phone screen and pc screen around the same time to show

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also pc model looks different since this is a customizable model i purchased on booth. during an attempt to fix the issue i tried to reupload the original model file from booth but it still didnt fix

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so i haven't re updated the texture pack etc

dusty yarrow Jun 6, 2024, 11:08 AM

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ruby sleet

maybe it is the mouth open sensitivity thingy?

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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dusty yarrow maybe it is the mouth open sensitivity thingy?

Already tried that too

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 2:51 PM

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somber plume Hmm those appear to be set up correctly. Can you record a video with the model t...

Idk if the videos are helpful to show that the issue is

somber plume Jun 6, 2024, 7:36 PM

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ruby sleet also pc model looks different since this is a customizable model i purchased on...

If you set both phone and pc to the same default model, does the issue persist?
If the mouth moves on the default model on pc, the next question would be to ask if the model on pc is rigged for mouth open.

The video would be better if you could have the settings open where it shows what is being received for the mouth open tracked parameter.

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 9:06 PM

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It used to work so I know that the model is made to open this issue only started occurring recently but I don’t think I changed any of my settings

somber plume Jun 6, 2024, 9:08 PM

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ruby sleet It used to work so I know that the model is made to open this issue only started...

Asking again so we can isolate the problem: If you set both phone and pc to the same default model, does the issue persist?

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 9:09 PM

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It does

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But it doesn’t happen to the models that come preinstalled in vtube studio

somber plume Jun 6, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Thats what I mean by default model.

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Ah ok

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Yeah those models are fine

somber plume Jun 6, 2024, 9:12 PM

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So on the problem model, when you open the settings on PC and go to the parameter tracking, when you open and close your mouth does the red dot on the input side go up and down?

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 9:30 PM

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It does

somber plume Jun 6, 2024, 9:32 PM

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Does the red dot on the output side go up and down? Can you screenshot that setting and send it here?

ruby sleet Jun 6, 2024, 11:13 PM

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Yeah I can do it once I get back on my computer

ruby sleet Jun 7, 2024, 6:13 AM

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somber plume Jun 7, 2024, 11:35 AM

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ruby sleet

The first thing I see being an issue is that the max value in output of mouth open is 0.4 which is less than half of the actual max of the parameter. Change that to 1 and see if it starts working.

ruby sleet Jun 7, 2024, 9:17 PM

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somber plume The first thing I see being an issue is that the max value in output of mouth op...

I wanna say I usually always have it at 1 I only changed it to test out Bread’s suggestion

dusty yarrow Jun 8, 2024, 7:01 AM

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INPUT

ruby sleet Jun 9, 2024, 4:52 AM

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dusty yarrow INPUT

let me try that

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ruby sleet Jun 9, 2024, 4:52 AM

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dusty yarrow INPUT

just tried that too nothing

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still same results

somber plume Jun 9, 2024, 5:32 AM

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so i am thinking the mouth open might be rigged to a nondefault parameter or is locked closed due to a permutation issue

ruby sleet Jun 9, 2024, 5:59 PM

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How would I check or fix that

somber plume Jun 9, 2024, 7:34 PM

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ruby sleet How would I check or fix that

go into expression editor in vts, create new expression and find the parameter that actually opens and closes the mouth

ruby sleet Jun 11, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Gonna try to fix it tonight

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:38 AM

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somber plume go into expression editor in vts, create new expression and find the parameter t...

I cant seem to get it to open even there

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:39 AM

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ruby sleet I cant seem to get it to open even there

Did you look for a different parameter that opens and closes the mouth? It could be labeled something else.

Otherwise that model is busted/wasnt rigged properly.

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:40 AM

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i tried going thru all of them :/... and i know the model was rigged properly cause it use it work

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and it still does work on my phone so im not sure what is wrong with it

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:42 AM

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Well the expression editor is the easiest way to test the model. If you turn tracking off and then try mouth open in expression editor, does the mouth open?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:44 AM

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i couldnt find it

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like any that would get it to open which im not sure why that would be the case

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:45 AM

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Did you try with tracking on or off?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:47 AM

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both

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:49 AM

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well if there's no one parameter that controls the mouth opening, and you're sure it was working prior, then if its rigged "correctly" it requires some other parameter to be set.

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have you tried redownloading the model?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:50 AM

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i have

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multiple times

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:53 AM

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so that model on your phone has the mouth moving?

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Like that specific model when loaded to your phone

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:54 AM

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yes

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:56 AM

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Can you provide a video showing that, and then in the video also show the parameter settings for the model?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 3:59 AM

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the one on the phone?

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 3:59 AM

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Yup

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:00 AM

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i actually just deleted the app on the phone to redownload and see if thatll help since it was something a friend suggested so i wont be able to for a bit

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:00 AM

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When you get around to it then

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:13 AM

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I haven’t redone the customization to the model but here she is on my phone

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not sure if i recorded it right

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@somber plume

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and i had reuploaded the model to both pc and phone so i know the model should match completely

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:21 AM

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try setting up the customization the same way and then if the mouth works on phone and its still not working on computer, this might end up being a denchi issue

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:22 AM

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whats denchii

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also idk how to check on phone so that i could see if it moves on the model since the controls cover up the model

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:25 AM

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denchi is the developer of vts. the check for this would be if the mouth opens normally on the phone or if its locked up like what it was on the computer

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:26 AM

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is there a way to get a hold of Denchi?

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:27 AM

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typically through ping but I try to help exhaust all avenues of testing before since there's no guarantee that he will have time to check and respond

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:28 AM

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hmmm i see

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do you have any other ideas of what else i could try to do differently

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:29 AM

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somber plume try setting up the customization the same way and then if the mouth works on pho...

this, i am thinking its still some form of parameter lock, else something isnt right in code potentially

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:35 AM

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somber plume this, i am thinking its still some form of parameter lock, else something isnt r...

it opens

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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and messing with mouth open in expression editor on the computer doesn't have it open at all right? even with the fresh install?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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unfortuneatly yes

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unless im somehow not uninstalling it correclty ...

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Do you have a webcam you can test tracking with? to see if its just the phone causing some issue?

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:48 AM

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sadly no i just have my phone

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i'm gonna attempt to uninstall and reinstalled one more time

somber plume Jun 12, 2024, 4:50 AM

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when you're ready if its still not working, you can @/denchi with a summary of it not accurately displaying the mouth

ruby sleet Jun 12, 2024, 4:54 AM

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dang.... still no luck...

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@potent mauve Hello Denchi. I've been having issues with the mouth on my model not opening on my pc. I have the same model up on my phone and it works so I know there isnt an issue with the model itself. Isosnow has been very kind and patient with walking me thru a few options to troubleshoot but we still haven't been able to find a solution. I hope you can please help me out. Thank you!

ruby sleet Jun 14, 2024, 1:40 AM

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Still in need of help. I’m literally at a point I’m so desperate I’m debating whipping my computer clean to start over cause I just tested and downloaded vtube studio to roommates pc and used the same phone for tracking , same model and all and it works on his computer

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