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Itās the title sponsor after all
yes, so it could be a replacement
much like HRT, they didn't have big sponsors, but were just placeholders in the championship
Unless if Haas get into extreme financial difficulty, we could see a return with Rich Energy or a partnership with another car manufacturer
They can always find a new title sponsor. The problem is who wants to sponsor them.
If you knew that, then why would you ask if Andretti was taking over? Go read the statement
We know that!
It was more of a "could he take over" from my pov. Makes sense considering he said he wants a team, Haas will need money, he wants in, why not take over?
I appreciate you taking up for your friend. Anytime someone other than this person posts something, itās always a smart ass answer. Just tired of it.
He's not my friend, we haven't actually spoken much on here lol. Just trying to help the conversation be friendly š
Other than who? Maybe I've missed it as haven't been around much
Wait till the season starts and there's dodgy decisions/accidents, then you'll see the real crazies š
Really? I was surprised. /end sarcasm
Apparently reading comprehension is hard for some people. If you could put 2+2 together - haas losing (as it looks like) their title sponsor, and Andretti willing to enter F1 - it was a perfectly reasonable hypothesis. But some people just want to pick a fight.
Gene Haas is not willing to put his team for sale though.
Iām still debating their ability to survive right now without their biggest sponsor
F1 can support them. The cost and gaps should have helped them. They can can a new sponsor too. F1 is nr1 marketing place so.
For the fact f1 is 66% marketing the rest is motorsport so
Also that sponsorship is guaranteed Mazepin seat. No way he lose that seat. I am sure Mazepin stays and the livery just change.
What if their funds are frozen though? Only reason he has a seat is the sponsorship so if they can't pay he might lose his seat
Then new sponsor.
They got more than 3 weeks until new season. This means time to get new sponsor.
Exactly. Itās not as easy. Being associated with one of the largest Russian companies, potentially falling under severe sanctions on top of the already not easy situation in the team is not something that can be easily disregarded. You think haas is as attractive to sponsors at their current state? Tell me the new sponsors they attracted this year
Such contracts canāt be done in 3 weeks
We are talking Haas, not Ferrari
It would be a lot cheaper for Andretti than flat out start a new team
Do you remember force India and what happened with the team at that point?
They had no choice. Haas has a choice.
They were out of money for a long time and that has been a problem for a long time. Haas has the opportunity to find a way and seek help.
I like haas livery, but if Uralkali cant be part of it they will struggle. They need the money.
Yeah, but apparently talking about it and suggesting itās a way for Andretti to enter earlier by supporting Haas is being āSmartassā.
Some people š
Haas was already in a difficult financial situation even before this season
Fact, so long Andretti joins F1 I am happy. But I would prefer more teams but yeye.
Absolutely, another team would (I hope) mean more talents could join
Instead of p2race ones like Mazespin
Uralkali is oil company obviously they have the money. But already yesterday Russia stocks went down by 40%. Most european countries has stopped the import of oil and gass from Russia. I really think Uralkali is going to withdraw. Unless they want to use the rest of their money for F1.
Fully agree, except on one thing
Uralkali is a chemicals company, they are not in the energy one
Itās mostly fertilizers and potassium chloride
Russell interesting.
Zhou also doing surprisingly well
Haas 9 laps šµ They've struggled every session haven't they?
I guess BWT used Magnesium Mineralised Water instead of actual fuel lmao
Lol
Could be linked to what they reported earlier
āGive us performance, reliability should be secondā
As redbull have asked for in 2018
Ricciardo ended up having arguably the worst season he's had ever
Whats this suppose to mean?
Means he had pretty much had the worst season of everyone in 2018
Ok so? How is that relevant
'Give us performance, Reliability should be second'
They had performance, but shocking reliability
Ah yeah true
moral of what I said is reliability is as important as performance
Fact
Saw an interview the other day where he basically said it was something said as a joke, the fans took it seriously and now they're just playing along with it
Lol
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He's asked about it at about 3mins
I always thought it was a joke. But alonso keep talking about āel planā xD
Yeah, it's been taken a lot more seriously by fans than it was ever meant lol
Still doesn't actually say much, "under current circumstances" leaves it open for them to decide later
Yep
Their decision is based on the financial result, not if its ok to do so or not
Itās also a bit too late for āswift and peacefulā
Is Mazespin still 6 secs slower than the top cars?
yesn't
we don't know yet
but he probably is
he has no uralkali power
so
he probably 10 seconds
give hamilton 10 second time penalty he'll still finish infront of mazepin
Based on what Gunthers saying Mazepin is unlikely to be racing this year.
What has Günther said?
Hope it's bye bye. His rookie season was a disaster anyway. Not good enough to race in the highest series. He should drop to S9 or even S7.
Oh
So its 50/50 if Mazepin will race?
More likely 80/20 he won't. From what I understand Haas basically have to work out the legal/commercial side to getting rid of him and then it's done.
Not having Uralkali means they bottled the deal right ? And that means Mazepin āsecuredā seat is up to grab?
Pretty much I think. I'm not an expert but that's the understanding I get. Gunther did say that Haas was safe though and the team weren't in danger.
Thatās the best part
Thats good news.
If they can survive without Uralkali they can find a new title sponsor mid season.
I agree with Sid - the answer and the wording points to the contract being broken and Uralkali and haas parting ways. And considering Mazespin is part of that deal heās likely off also
If they can survive in short time at least. That should be enough time to get a new sponsor. Perhaps even selling the team. Its a good value for people wanting to join F1.
Its kinda sad since Mazepin didn't really do anything
However, Russian GP is now cancelled
Yup
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I mean, I would love to see other drivers like Oscar Piastri. But I would prefer a ādaddyā cash driver this time to secure Haas survival.
Well
idk who's a paydriver in F2
Piastri is going to replace Alonso or Ocon in the near future at Alpine
I think Aitken or Lundgaard
will take that spot
unless, like Qnyx said, Fittipaldi might take that spot
I am sure he will take it, but Haas probably will find another āpaid driverā to get that money.
Or a title sponsor
Hopefully a company like Rich Energy or Jack & Jones will make it
According to Gunther, Haas won't be in such a crisis where they'll face extreme financial difficulty
Camt red bull buy them so they have a C Team lol
Ik
and to get them starting in F1, them buying Haas will be disastrous
I dont see Haas getting a new title sponsor this quickly. For me its either new sponsor or be bought by people like Andretti
Is it definitely cancelled ? As the FIA statement was quite vague and left a huge open door
Andretti are planning to start from scratch, not interested in sponsoring or taking over another team
Not confirmed, many sources like Sky says it is but there is no official statement that itās cancelled from F1
Wdym, it's been confirmed, but further insight is still taking place
Itās probably going to be confirmed later today since I dont see how its not going to be cancelled.
Their statement did not say that.
It is, its called a moral decision
The āunder current circumstancesā in the end is way too vague
Yup, nothing says its 100% cancelled
Ok now Craig Slater has stated its not 100% confirmed, it will be decided later on today
Russian Grand Prix cancelled following invasion of Ukraine - https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60523049
But confirmed none the less, its called morals, everyone knows its not right to race in a country that started an invasion with other countries just out of greed
Official
Thats not confimation by F1
The only official one we have is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/652474616236998677/946745534297808906/A29B6E09-262E-4958-B5DA-9757A276B946.jpg
Well sochi sucks anyway so it doesn't matter
I see the point but we know that money talks unfortunately and sometimes just has priority over morals in sport
Its definitely going to be cancelled but right now its just media other than F1 themself that are confirming this.
Governing bodies have said Russian athletes will not compete in high level competition, this will probably lead to Russia not being involved in any other sport or hosting any event until further notice.
Also not right to race in countries that abuse human rights but F1 does that anyway so š¤·āāļø
Lol
Understandable, but they haven't sparked a war over greed in the 21st century now have they?
In no way am I saying that its right in the first place, but just to point it out
No but depending on your views you could argue America has and they still race there. America waged war to remove dictatorships and prevent terrorism, Russia waging war to "de-militarise and de-nazifi" a state. Personally I don't believe they're the same just pointing the facts out. Under no circumstances should F1 be anywhere near Russia this year
No sport should be anywhere near Russia
Removing dictatorship and preventing terrorism can be seen as a good thing, I'm not sure if you agree. Russia trying to -'de-militarise' another country just means they don't Ukraine to not have a dictatorship. They're completely different scenarios, one for arguably good, one for extremely bad.
That is 100% agreed on by 90% of the worlds population
In essence, Russia want to control Ukraine like its North Korea, just a little less extreme
Oh don't get me wrong, I agree. I'm just pointing out that depending on a person's views, the situation can be seen differently. It's easy to put a different spin on things. Just to clarify though, I'm 100% against Putin and those that follow him and personally don't believe the two scenarios can be compared, just pointing out both sides.
I do hope you're describing the waged war to be 9/11?
Cause that's the referral
Yes the war against WMDs. Some people believe it was waged under false pretences and believe it's western "imperialism"
Where as this is an example of Russian "imperialism"
Correct
Like I said, personally the two situations don't compare, just pointing out other views that I've seen and read about
They can be compared, but they're for 2 different reasons
Having studied military history and wars for my whole life, I read a lot about these situations
Fair enough
They can but not in the way that people have been comparing them. (Not here fyi but a lot of uneducated people see no difference) š¤¦āāļø
pahah thats true
Quotes from some drivers on F1 "cancelling" the Russian GP:
Lando Norris: āSad to see whatās going on. A very good decision from F1. Not a place I would want to be going right now and very sad to see whatās going on and the innocent lives that are being taken.ā
Alex Albon: āI think itās the right step. Itās really saddening. There are much bigger things out there than racing.ā
Everyone on the grid knows its wrong
However Mazepin, being Russian himself was in a tough spot to answer that question
then he gets harassed online, even by Jeremy Clarkson, who most of the time is a genuine guy but his response was completely unnecessary
Pierre Gasly: āI am really pleased this decision was made. It is completely the right one. Knowing they are in war. I donāt support the action they are taking. It is a relief F1 is also cancelling the grand prix.
āAbout Ukraine, itās really sad to see whatās happening. In 2022, to see innocent people⦠breaking families and dying from basically a reason which I donāt support is very sad and seeing all these videos.
āI am also personally affected having some people close to me in Ukraine right now. Itās a very difficult situation and very scary because they donāt know if they are going to be able to make it out and see their relatives.ā
He's stuffed basically. If he doesn't speak out everyone hates him, if he does his dad's company get's screwed and he can probably not go back to Russia
Haven't seen Clarkson's response
You can see on google, just type in Jeremy Clarkson Nikita Mazepin
The censored version is that even if he races alone in Russia he will still lose
Lets be honest, he was hated before, so at the moment it's little no difference to him
Just read it, not impressed by Clarkson there. What's he actually meant to do considering previous opponents have been poisoned?
Itās just stupid and unwarranted
mhm
Does anyone play f12021 at all? I know this isn't the right place just curious
EAā
decides to remove rich mix ik big sad
I didn't play 2020 so had that instead. Got to year 6, everything developed and as the season has gone on I keep getting slower. I was regular front row and podium first half of season, now I can't get out of Q1 and struggle to get in points and nothing has changed!
Yeah everything is max developed, I can't do anything more. On the performance graph I'm way ahead as well and Norris is still regular at the top. It's just really weird how now I can't get anywhere near where I was
And Stroll is going to win the title š
Keyboard user? Wheel? Controller?
Controller. I have a wheel but have to re-arrange my lounge to attach it to my table š
I can kinda see the reason
its so blocky, like keyboard
you can barely follow the racing line correctly
Yeah, maybe I'll get the wheel out and see if it changes. Been controller all season though so weird how it was fine before but not now
I see its hard to adapt to something powerful when you haven't got the tools to control it properly
Even on the straights though, I'm getting outpaced by Alpines and Alfa's and they're mid-table. Like what?! I tried new power units and they still did me on the straights. Even though in practise my top speed was the highest, it makes no sense
What power unit do you use?
Can't remember atm, on the last race decided to give it another go and I can't even catch the safety car š
Game has broken somehow, losing a second a lap to the safety car š
Pretty sure it was a ferrari one but I'll check when I start a new season
Stroll doing doughnuts in Abu Dhabi š
Damn
They definitely used Magnesium Mineralised Water for fuel
Ferrari seems to be good so far, similar pace to RB and MB
Alfa and Haas in trouble , quite a lot of issues ā¦
WILLIAMS
Williams on the soft tyres slightly faster than obviously sandbag mode for mclaren (see lando tweet) I do hope they are at least somewhat decent still but zzzs
is it actually intresting to buy a f1 tv pass right now ?
If you have never had it, yes.
There is a ton of great content you can get through before the new season starts.
okay š waiting for pay day š
Worth every penny. š
yeah i'm sick of watching the german stream every year xD i don't understand a word of their gibrish xD
What's the best place to watch the races with impartial commentary and analysis do people think? Currently got Sky but wondering if there's better out there
F1 tv? Or they donāt have commentary?
I meanā¦. Thereās free ways to watch formula one races
and them being?
I prefer legit ways
I don't know, never used it before so not sure what the coverage of races is like
Streameast is a good website, has a lot of sports betters, sports surge is good too
Afaik they have a lot of options. But really not sure about the commentary. Normally they have tons of additional cameras - access to onboards for example. I havenāt heard anything bad about it yet
F1 TV pro is good, its like ā¬100 for a whole year. They coverage is good, lot more to show than TV channels imo.
That's kinda embarrassing coming from Clarkson, considering Nikita was in a tough position
Also I watch sky sports F1 just for croftys commentary
Nothing can beat it
Its actually very normal by Jeremey. His twitter is always full of stuff like these.
But that tweet you can tell had little thought
Could have gone without the second sentence
Yep! Thatās fine. Not racist at all. Nope. All good Mr. Clarkson
thats how 99% of his tweets are xD
I am serious
He is like that especially when its race-weekend.
Ngl, he's the type of person to say he'll will do 3 seconds faster than mazepin in the same car but ends up barely fitting inside the car and loses 1 second in a straight line
Don't get me wrong I love the guy
Well thats how Jeremy is after all.

But put him in that haas and he'll be lapped like HRT, Marussia and Caterham in 2012, 2-3 laps behind
mhm
Old F1 logo, they saw the future
Wow I think that new is old
It's early in the morning š
Thatās actually a clean formula one car
I miss the cross
Why does formula one has to start soooo late in the year
Late?
Its normal?
Its normally in March when the season starts
Btw the Alfa Livery it looks like a toy car ngl
Most likely to have a bit more sure about the weather as well. I remember actually when it wasnāt ending in December š
March is too late in the year
Why not January
This is my first time getting into formula one so thatās probably why I want formula one to start already
They canāt run 12/12 months
Only couple of weeks remaining and the fun starts š
I was like you in my first year. But its quite normal to have it this late.
Whenever circuit of America confirms the date and price of the paddock club Iām buying a vip ticket
All it says is get a quote tho, I donāt really know how f1ās ticket dates work with later on races
You can preorder.
How? I didnāt see anything about pre ordering a ticket
There is multiple places where they sell tickets.
I guess itās still to early for even preorders on this event lmao
nah
Normally you can pre-order a year before. Here where I lived there is always giveaway/pre-orders for Silverstone and Spa GP.
Its just idk how it works in NA
From what I can see on F1 website, you can buy up to Belgium atm
Rest haven't been released yet
Although Silverstone and Azerbaijan are still "Wait for release"
And some others so not sure how it works lol
Looks like those big events takes a bit of time to get a ticket for. Or the circuit is not ready.
Okay
The circuit I want to get is circuit of america, thatās why I said it might not be available yet
Probably Available before June. Itās technically half year til so.
Good job he wasnāt around 10 years agoā¦October - March used to feel like an eternity š¤£
[edit] 15 years agoā¦I feel old
Yep. I stopped watching for a bit after Schumacherās Ferrari run and back then even races in November was outrageous.
Not to mention 20+ races in a season
20 races was outrageous but 400 laps a week 52 weeks a year testing was fine š¤£
It was mad how many miles drivers in the Schumacher era did. I also miss the T carā¦Drivers sprinting back to the pits to jump in the backup š¤£
I did like it though when the lower teams were allowed 3 cars in Friday practice
Yeah, it would be great if for example for lower-tier teams they could run again some testing (provided they had the budget)
Idea for the future, the worst team in the race has to stay behind and use up all the tyre sets they didnāt run onā¦kinda like after school detention š¤£
They took Monza and Silverstone footage. I would be disappointing if its not included in one of these 10 episodes.
It's not long until Mazepin looses his license
Very small chance of Mazepin staying
His license is gone once Uralkali is out
yup
Question is - Gio or Fitipaldi
gio pls š
Steiner says Fiti
Ferrari will push for Gio though
Gio might do an Albon and get recruited by Williams
Alonso if he's gone by the end of this year will be replaced by Latifi
Really doubt that. For two reasons - alpine have their academy driver on standby and on top of that they will try to get Gasly also for a fully French team
Ukraineās Motorsport federation asked FIA to ban Mazespin
Bring back the Ice Man!
I see no chance for Nikita to remain
Iād love to get Fitipaldi in to be honest as he did fine last year
Same
Let the guy have his drink whenever he wants
I want ice man back
me too
You guys heard the reports that only Alfa are at the weight limit, mclaren are just over and the rest are quite a bit over?
I saw that many were 10kg over
Didnāt read it though as I had no time
So .. sandbagging literally? š
š yup. Apparently they're trying to get it raised though so that Alfa and Mclaren lose the weight advantage.
"We can't get our cars that low so you have to make yours heavier so it's fair" š
I find it hard to believe
Some of the best engineers out there that can do wonders about it and they canāt make it, while Alfa of all of them can?
I call a bluff and weāll see a lot of them magically hitting the target in Bahrain
1.19 lap time. These cars are just getting better, they might be as fast as last gen cars xD
- tons of them were 10kg heavier.
RB and Merc have already said they're basically bringing brand new cars to Bahrain
Yep, the Merc should be totally different
pretty much 99.9999999% that Mazepin is not gonna be in F1
Damn fell bad for him
š
He did not deserve to be there in the first place.
Not hating, but my expectation should at least be capable of do some good laps/gps he has not done that showing once again that he was just there for the money
I donāt feel bad for him either. He shouldnāt be paying for his fatherās sins, and yet only because of that he got to say he drove in F1. And his first (and possibly only) season was almost entirely a complete disaster compared to other rookies
Why do I think this post sound familiar š
Which one?
The thing about ālegalā and āupgradesā you know
No
Summary. Uralkali cannot stay. But Mazepin can drive but the whole reason mazepin is in F1 is because of money. No money no drive.
Why go for mazepin when they can go for perhaps better driver + a guy that can offer money. Mazepin cant do that anymore.
Is there another sponsored driver who has a license and can sign a contract?
Just meant legally he's allowed to stay, nothing saying he can't race
Obviously a lot depends on how his dad's money is impacted by the sanctions
Mazepin can stay but haas can vouch for a better driver and has a good reason to let mazepin go
There's multiple licensed drivers, just not necessarily with the money Mazepin brought
Most of his money (dad) is frozen and he is quickly losing money because of sanctions.
Much better option to for a driver that can guarantee something.
As Gunther said they dont rely on Uralkali.
Guess a lot depends on the contract situation and legality of things then.
I'd imagine Haas are working hard on finding a way out so they can replace him
I guess they'd go to their reserve driver first.
That would be Pietro?
Yep.
Basically no chance Mazepin stays. Unless they make an āprivateā donation or something. āA way to send moneyā
But does Haas suffer any penalty (other than public opinion) if they keep Mazepin? Or if they keep him, but give Fittipaldi the seat for now?
According to what FIA said I do not think so.
Nope, he's allowed to race just has to be a "neutral" athlete and if he won (š) they wouldn't play the anthem or show his flag
They haven't been showing the Russian flag since the start of 2021
Its almost always been like that. The RAF dont like that their athletes representing their flag. Because if you lose its a show of weakness. In this case the Russian Federation chose that it is how it is in F1.
FIA taking a different approach though
FIFA and uefa simply banned them
The Olympic committee also
Money still talks in FIA š
They banned teams, have they banned individual athletes though?
Like I haven't seen any Russian footballers banned from playing for their team in other countries
@opaque crest
According to the FIA:
"Russian/Belarusian drivers, individual competitors and officials to participate in international/zone competitions only in their neutral capacity and under the āFIA flagā, subject to specific commitment and adherence to the FIAās principles of peace and political neutrality, until further notice"
like why the F would you ban rusian athletes that doesn't support the war? even most of the rusian soldiers were talked into the war without knowing it's actually the war.... this whole witch hunt is just BS
You canāt excuse Mazespin come on
His father is one of the few that got called to the meeting with Putin
Damn rip mazipin's career
Thanks mate, I meant the other sports though. Haven't seen any banning individual athletes yet
Not really, under that he's still allowed to race
Haas have declined to comment, they were hoping the decision would be made for them
Yea but without money he wont be here next season so rip his career
Ah. Yup, my mistake. If the other sporting bodies are going to follow the Olympic committee ruling, there likely wont be any bans, just competition under a neutral flag.
i am not excusing anyone... just saying that generalizing that every rusian is putin and war supported is just stupid AF
like do you think any of the rich folks owning houses all over the globe are anyhow affected by any of this? they are just laughing and laying their buts on beaches
it's regular folks that has nothing to do with it that are being punished for nothing.... just losing jobs and not being able to efort the food and housing
You think Mazespinās father is āregular folksā ? When heās one of the only ones that are summoned To speak to Putin? Likeā¦. Really !l? Are you that naive ?
If it was regular Ivan or Peter fine. But when he is one of the richest oligarchs in the country personally summoned to a meeting with Putin. No, heās not āa regular personā.
That count as one of his ābuddiesā it was only around 37 people summoned to that meeting.
Only š I donāt think Ivan Ivanov was one of the buddies there that were āregular folks that have nothing to do with itā
i was talking in general about all athletes and mental setup that every rusian is a bad guy and we need to hate them, because ppl started comparing f1 to olympics and other organizations.... in no way i agree with what's happening but this hurting everyone in cross fire for no reason
don't show flag, don't play anthen, it's fine.... but banning and firing ppl just because they are rusians.... just lel
i see rusians in my country working minimum wage being fired from job and ubications and crying in the streets because they have nowhere to go.... and ppl are mean to them, blaming them for what's happening even when they have absolutely nothing to do with it
Unrelevant to the post by FIA, I do not see the point but I do understand.
relevant to discusion here where someone was "blaming" FIA for not banning every rusian like other organizations did
No one has said that
Qnyx ā Yesterday at 9:21 PM
FIA taking a different approach though
FIFA and uefa simply banned them
The Olympic committee also
Money still talks in FIA š
still did not say "blaming" every russian*
Its a difference, the one talked about yesterday was about orgs taking other types of direction. You simply making a statement saying someone is blaming russians.
FIA is oil and auto industry based sport ( dirty oil ).
people call motor sport, but sport to me is Olympic/Soccer/Tennis/Golf and so on.
i call it Motor Competition, not a sport in my eyes.
That logic is nonesense
yea, i agree, lol
however i would say, Motor Sport is a non sense word, its just 2 cars competing on asphalt, to see which one wont break down first, haha!
Bono my tires!
You can say same to Tennis. Its just using racket "to see whos racket gets broken first" or football too see which dude breaks his leg first or score first
that logic dont make sense
you just made logic.
Thanks!
Now lets say that ESort is not a sport. its just video gaming with advertisement and marketing.
in future i can see 2 groups of people fighting over an argument on social media/twitter/discord would become a sport as well, once they can get sponsors for them.
That would be the era of trolls
TrollSport
all you need is a sponsor and some fans, and it becomes a sport
well sport is basically any physical activity bounded by some rules.... so you can call eating donuts a sport because you need to chew and you count number of donuts eaten in limited time period š
exactly, haha!
longest fart? FSport
brrrrrrftft

what has world become after internet and computers, is just nuts!
"retarded" ig
I have nowhere blamed any Russian for what is happening - on the contrary. I even said above that Nikita shouldnāt be paying for his fatherās sins. However, when there is clearly only one reason heās on the grid - his fatherās money - and that being very much linked to the crazy president of Russia - he canāt really play the āinnocentā card. He already had his yellow card last year before even joining the team. Now, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on the point of view) he needs to go.
From what I've seen here everyone has accepted this is Putins war and no one is blaming the citizens of Russia. Those who have been on the streets protesting and risking their lives show its not their war.
Putin as he's gotten older has lost his head
Mind you he's lost it to the extent he's been stripped of his taekwondo black belt
Took him quite a long time to get there
To get a black belt you are probably 1 in 10,000 to do so
10,000 people will sign up, half will quit in the first 6 months. 5,000 people are left, of those 5,000, another 2,500 will quite after a year. 2,500 left and of those people only 500 will go on to achieve blue belt. At this point a good 80% of these blue belts will realise the hard work you need to put in to get to brown belt. By the time people get to brown belt, a handful (say 10) of people will go on to get their black belt as a result of people not willing to go the extra mile to train at black belt level. So of those 10, 1 in those 10 people will stand out from the rest, as they are determined to get that black belt that takes 5-7 years to get, whilst consistently training at a regular basis. That makes VLAD 1 in 10,000. But due to his arrogance and greed, he has lost up to 7 years of sweat, time, blood and tears.
This is just pure cringe
Who tf cares that he lost his black belt. That is neither relevant nor important.
There is like so many other topics and media wants to talk about a guys black belt.
Its meaningless in this case and its all about status
Motorsport UK have banned any Russian/Belarusian license holders from competing on UK soil. IF Haas keep Mazepin, he can't race at Silverstone
Lel
He cant race most places you meanā¢
Yeah I feel bad for the Russian people due to all the sanctions, and the young soldiers getting sent there. Doubt many of them want to be there.
Seen interviews where some of them didn't even know they were going to fight, they were told it's a training exercise and they also didn't know they were fighting Ukrainians
Yep seen alot of that as well. Many of them have family there as well etc. Just crazy. Hope it's over soon and that Russia gets sanctions easened so the people don't have to suffer as much.
Sorry for OT!
Yup, fingers crossed it can be over sooner rather than later.
Haha not much F1 to talk about atm, only 1 more week to more testing though!
I mean putin called it āspecial military operationā
1 more week to testing and DTS
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Max Verstappen signs bumper new deal with Red Bull until end of 202...
You're probably rolling with a 4s, which is like a couple millennia out of date
gets 1 wdc and is getting 50 mil
also marko: complains about hamiltons wages and insists of wages being in the cost cap
He deserves it
Not even Lewis gets that much. 50mil for a young athlete is way too much. Not whole alot of top athletes even earn that much + this is almost the double of what he originally earned from RB. This is too much for an athlete that has alot left in his career compared to many other athlete they are around their 30s that has achieved almost everything.
Formula 1 terminates contract with Russian Grand Prix following invasion of Ukraine - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60601632?ns_campaign=sport_app_alert
Itās exactly what Ham gets
Nope, not anymore. He is around 40mil now. Because mercedes were losing money pr season even though they win the championship. So they wanted to reduce the gap. He was struggling to get a contract for 2021 season. They were in talks for months and the big topic then was money.
At least Ham has achieved most stuff already and did not earn that much that early. Max in other hand is in peak(prime) so much left of him. Thats alot to a young athlete.
Hm, many sources say itās 40million pounds for ham as well
I see the point though and yes, some sport salaries are just ā¦.
Football is crazy, now F1 also š
Many reporting Mazespin is out and weāll get confirmation today
Fitipaldi to drive in the Bahrain test
Mazepin is soooo out
Red Bull will fall down the order to 4th if they pay Max that hefty amount
Unfortunately
They do have new sponsors though
Rich energy makes a return
The money is just ridiculous. No one person should be paid that amount of money. Football, F1, American sports etc, so much good could be done with that money
In sport in general people earn that much. The ridiculous for me is young athletes earn that much that early. Normally people build up every year to that sum. But in this case max got pretty much the double what he used to earn.
In sport its ridiculous, no one should earn that much. It is doubly ridiculous him being at the age he is and earning it.
Mind you, he won the championship by chance, not entirely by skill.
The people power just won. And Moscow is reverse-engineering a loophole to avoid such.
If the drivers or athletes didnāt get it, then the ownership would simply pocket the money. Itās the drivers and the athletes that ultimately put on the show⦠if the money is there, why notā¦
Was reading an article about how RB treats its young drivers and noticed this
"Formula One teams can now test their cars from last year. And the change in regulations means a team should now use a rookie in at least two free practices. OāWard is in contention to take the place."
Is there a chance in regs that mean we'll see other drivers in FP or is it talking bs?
Thereās a requirement in the regs for teams to use drivers that have 2 or less GP starts in atleast 2 FPs this year
RB and AT confirmed itāll be Vips and Lawson
McLaren said Pato and someone else
Earlier, testing last season cars was prevented because it can be used for gathering more data about the current cars considering regs remained more or less stable
Now since itās a whole new reg change, teams can do it since thereās no useful data they can gain from it
Thanks man, I knew about the cars but hadn't heard about the FP new drivers regs. Hopefully we'll see quite a few new faces then
If a team has a young driver then its ok. If they are full of vetrans they need to use a rookie. This applies sometimes in Free practice and testing.
Like Alonso was a "young" driver a couple of years ago š
Fake, look at the date lol
I want it to be real š
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Mazepin and Uralkali out š®
Iām wondering why we donāt have the news on the replacement yet
More and more talks about Gio
No surprises here
It's clearly not as simple as promoting fittipaldi, maybe they're looking at other options like gio
Or waiting for someone to come in with sponsorship
If Ferrari is indeed pushing for Gio
It would make sense
But yes, now that we have the āofficialā confirmation we should expect some news shortly
Who does Ferrari have in their academy?
We saw it coming rip
Ok. News came now
Hope haas gets their identity back.
Just had a look, only one I've heard of is schwartzmann (Russian so won't count) or leclerc, Charles' brother
Fittipaldi, Piastri, Gio seem most likely.
Also see Ilott is a ferrari academy driver but signed up to indycar so imagine that will be a pain to release
Ilott was the one that should have joined instead of Mazepin or Latifiā¦.
Next week replacement
Iād rank them Gio -> Piastri ->Fitipaldi . Gio being experienced and backed by Ferrari would help. Alpine could try and get some races in for Piastri, but it depends how bad they want him to race. I doubt a bit they will push too much though. Fitipaldi seems okay but nothing really spectacular
If Mazepins father has been among the sanctioned oligarchs itās pretty easy to justify
And given heās among the closer circle of Putin advisers I wouldnāt be surprised
Yeah I totally get the decision, be interesting to know how it was done though, whether Nikita was spoken to about it or not. At the very least let the guy know formally beforehand.
I do feel a tad sorry for him. He can't help who his family associates with but also he hasn't tried to distance himself so...
He was threading a very thin line on thin ice already
The groping of the girl before the season even started last year, his driving as well, apparently he also complained that mick was given the better chassis last year (it will be in one of the first DTS episodes) and Uralkali threatened to leave even last year. Yeah, very very hard to remain in that case
I doubt they didnāt tell him beforehand - they even said it before the third day of testing
Oh well was getting use to the MazeSpin powerball. Now weāll have to do with an actual driver š
Uuum.. why people has such hopes for Gio back in any team at all? He had 3 years to prove himself without any pressure and did nothing. What SF sees in him? Why wasting another free place on grid instead of looking for another undiscovered gemstone like Sainz and Norris?
Because realistically he is one of those contenders.
By losing 3 times to Kimi who is aged and started losing pace agressively? I know that there were few compromised races for Gio last year but still doesn't convince me that he deserves to be in F1. (I know that im just fan of F1 but still doesnt like him!) š
Ok so? still realistic that he is one of these contenders
Heās proven and he will be better for Mick compared to another rookie
Better have someone that can actually help them recover and get on their feet
Instead of another pay driver
Hi
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I slightly agree... in the end I wish F1 was like many other sports in which most, if not, all players are there based on merit and skill/ talent...I hope the sport changes where pay drivers have to be in the top 10%, at least, in Jr ranks to even be considered and teams aren't so desperate, financially, they feel the need to go that route
F1 is completely different though, drivers only win things because of the car they're in. Mazepin could have been a multi-world champion had he been in the merc š¤Ŗ
There's no talent in F1 anymore, all the driver does is push buttons š¤Ŗ
I would love to see you drive a F1 car and show of your skills.
compare to old time, he is right though
Haha I was just being an idiot and winding people up. The extent of my skills in an F1 car lie behind a controller.
Saying that I have done multiple single seater experiences round Silverstone and Thruxton, nowhere close to an F1 car though.
3 more days guys for testing
3 days? Aint it in Thuraday so 4 days to testing?
Itās on the 10th I believe
Did anyone watch the sky sports thing Duel yet?
Just seen an article where Horner calls Merc bullies and blames their bullying on Masi having to go š
I heard that in DTS Ham is calling Max a bully ššš
In one of the first few episodes
His team was almost the only team that did not vote for masi sacked or a change. It would be the same way around.
He was probably talking about someone being bully then Netflix clipped it to him saying max is a bully.
The idea was that some drivers are bullies on the track and was directly linked to max ofc
He is not particularly wrong if he was refering to max directly. Max is only one of few that drives really aggressively.
Other drivers I will say is grosjean, magnussen and Charles 2 of them gone so.
A good circuit in my opinion
Horrible to drive on the F12021 game š
Imola is a great track, I am going there this year
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Rumors say Fitipaldi to run the testing but full time pilot to be confirmed on Wednesday
I think Gunther already spoke about Fitipaldi to replace. But I am sure he is not first choice, and they are probably waitint/negotiating with other drivers that can bring money and perhapa be better than Fitipaldi. Lets be honest Fitipaldi aint that good and he havenāt driven in a time now.
Gio for me personally would be the first choice
Piastri after (depends on Alpine ofc how much they want him to drive) but I would simply assume the Ferrari connection would play a bigger role there
Gio for me sounds very reasonable and I feel like that where his level are.
Thatās also taking into account longer term development also
Gio helping Mick would be much better than Mick racing yet another season against someone that doesnāt challenge him
You mean someone who does not want to kill him xD
š same thing
I wonder how netflix portrait gunther and the haas rivalry lol, mick mic in Azerbadsjan def gonna be in there.
From what I saw
Mazespin Senior threatened to pull Uralkali out if they donāt give Nikita the ālighterā chassis
Apparently Nikita thought that it was so much better it would give him a chance and they were sabotaging him on purpose with a heavier chassis
Cough bullsš© cough
Yeah I heard about it, Mazepin thought of pulling out of the deal very early because of some stufd then got worse when the āchassisā thing came. I mean chassis is everything. Many engineers says chassis is basically the car just with the engine.
He didnāt improve after he got the better one ššš
Sorry,āmissed the quotes - the āBetterā one
The worse is he crashed with the new chassis like 1-2 gp after š¤£
They had a āreservedā but had some technical problems so he got the old chassis that he did not like š
So Haas late to Bahrain, "hoping to be on track in session 2 on Thursday" and fittipaldi will be testing then.
2 things - surely they know who's driving for them by now?
Why is fittipaldi testing if he's not going to be their driver?
Also heard rumours it's now between magnussen and hulkenberg š
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:bar_chart: who wants that the fia gets replaced this year?
FIA leadership already changed what are you on about š
has anyone heard abt the new merc B car without the sidepods
He could have said how the car will be than speaking in code š
Completely new to what we saw in Barcelona
Really nooo sidepods?
And apparently it will be 1 sec faster
Not sure how true it is
Hang on, there was a drawing
I have nothing to do tomorrow. Gonna bring my headset to school and watch then.
What thatās crazy
Now that would be something if indeed true
Yeah it isā¦. Damn if its true and it turns out to be a ā> Sandbagging then wow
Good weeks coming!
Oh yes!
DTS (welāll all watch it letās be real), testing this week, then races next 2 weeks
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I like how Magnussen was not being talked about so much then he takes the seat lol
many said Gio or Piastri
I'm off work sick atm so going to be watching testing all day lol
That drawing looks crazy, surely they can't have the space inside to do that
My second guess was gio would love to see him back. Obvious choice was Fiti but mag was out of the loop lol. Glad they found someone tho
Yeah Exaclty
Like the idea of K.Mag
Mags will be good with the experience side of things. He'll be able to help Mick and develop the car a bit
Yes! Hope he brings some dope sponsors also š
I hope I already see him tomorrow š
But looking at barcelona testing haas doesnt seem competitive yet. Hope they figure out their car. Tomorrows testing will be fun to see
I just got the F1 Tv pro with some discount lol so can watch testing at work
Okay going to post a pic I've just seen with some questions, might be obvious but I'm ill so excuse my brain not working properly lol
Two guys back row on the left I don't recognise, who are they?
How short is Yuki lol!
And no Lewis unless my eyes are deceiving me?
Thats stroll and zhou lol
Everyone is there
its just Lewis who is not there
Stroll and Zhou lol
Still in school
Just looked again and realised it was Stroll and Zhou, Zhou looks really old!
I almost could not recognise Zhou and stroll
He is a zombie š§āāļø
Stroll looks like he's put on a load of weight
Lewis is never on stuff like these why?
Him and seb are the ones that are soooo INTO POLITICS
I don't know but I've seen him post on Insta about this and Yemen
This will give all his haters another lease of life to moan and winge about him
That will keep em busy i guess
Oh apparently Lewis' flight was delayed, not sure where that info's from but seen it said lots on the post
"delayed"
how
thats cap
boy is a billionaire
he got his own plane
how can that be delayed xD
Thought he got rid of that couple of years ago
he forgot to check fuel and had to stop somewhere for it
Sold it in 2019
Breaking news: Kevin Magnussen to replace Mazepin for 2022
@rare ferry
This bloody device is like internet explorer fgs
lol
i forgot about this. He will make a sorry post soon š
Haas will also join testing a bit late tomorrow since their parts arrived a bit late
Ex-Haas driver Nikita Mazepin & father Dmitry added to list of wealthy Russians sanctioned over invasion of Ukraine - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60678476?ns_campaign=sport_app_alert
Omg I hate the new fans of our sport so much, that pic I posted earlier, majority of comments are "where's Hamilton, (insert name calling)" rather than focusing on the actual matter at the heart of it all.
Please can we all agree to no stupid playground name calling of drivers/team members and no stupid hate? Let's just have a season of opinions and discussions spoken like adults
Are you talking about the post here or somewhere else?
Yeah Its always like that, I hate it too
Somewhere else. For the most part everyone here has been reasonable, we've had the odd idiot now and then but here is so much better than any social media
We don't always agree but I feel we do it in a reasonable way
Magnussen back in F1!
Thats why I usually stick to discord. Have reasonable people here. Also Cant use other media when at work so
difference between a game platform vs social medias
Agreed. In game forums, we're all generally F1 fans in one form or another, far less trolling.
The DTS generation seems to have changed it a bit, but its not as toxic for the most part.
Discord for me is the most pleasent to be in.
Love it or hate it but we will all watch DTS
Absolutely
I honestly dont care about dts people. I know some of them are a bit special but yeah.
as long as they are not being retarded like Facebook people..
Haha
Facebook and twitter soo retarded
I just watch it for fun. There is nothing to take anything from it
Twitter is fine
its fine until you argument with someone
you get RATIO in 2 sek
Twitter and FB are the worst. Given everyone a voice to share their stupidity and idiocy
Omg, omg... Didn't expect that comeback for HAAS... Kevin Magnussen back to the grid to help Mick. Well thats an interesting development.
I want to say is Can Magnussen help HAAS to get points?
Since Kevin has experience and with a team he has worked with I can say they can get atleast 1 or 2 points
His driving has always been there the more obvious question is āIs the haas car good enough for pointsā
The point system has also changed it should be easier now to get points
What's the new point system?
I thought only the sprint race system changed for the points?
Testing 30min!
Yes, still new and easier to get points though
I doubt haas will get to that point š unless we have another Spa
Watch and see!
Something I am excited for is Magnussen defending š people forget he is ruthless when he defends. Perez better watch out!
Iām more excited about having him back for Clash haha š But a curve-ball and a great choice nevertheless
True š¤£
Very much considering F1 tv pro
Oh wow, they will show the testing on Sky
Mercedes with the screens already ššš
Sky Italy and UK
They really are running next to no sidepods
Thank you, but not only for testing
Yes
Come on Sergio go out already
This will either be incredibly good or it will fail quite fast
The ground effect problem is still a thing
Take note that teams will have upgrades tomorrow so
Itās so nice to see so different cars
They do look faster on tv btw
Canāt wait for the actual race now
Cars are awesome
And yea the porpoise is definitely there for Mercedes
Looks really nauseating
Yeah but they are still fast
They are showing that they got the pace but looks like they are struggling a bit. Def a upgrade tomorrow or already after lunch.
Man the Ferrari is so strong
its so stable and fast
Q3 last year was 1.28, these are are at 1.37etc so they are indeed slower.
Got it, so around 1:30 would already be decent
Only 30min in though so plenty of time to improve
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Ferrariš„°
its still really slow though
1.40 average
best 1.35
ik its only been like 30min
That subtle Red Bull on the Albon car š
Will it have enough cooling is the big question I guess
They dont struggle with that really
more like the aero
New haas livery looking great
Haas is the best !
:)
Rofl duct tape solution ftw
The thing that worries me about this new merc is that there doesn't seem to be much protection for when Max goes barrelling into the side š¤Ŗ
Itās usually the other way around so no worries
lol
mhm Idk they get tons of mileage but has not showned that they got the pace yet though.
Sandbagging ftw!
I'm surprised they've still got the porpoising issue tbf, would have thought they'd have found solutions for that
Itās quite bad on the Mercedes, but it should be better tomorrow or today even
On the Ferrari as well it seems
Alpine still looks dodgy as well
So far RB looks okay-ish and didnāt notice it that much on the Alfa either
I am sure they got the solution but just testing out something before they bring the big upgrade tonight xD
Remember that they are the team that got least time on the wind tunnel so getting much mileage as possible and test on the track is crucial.
Be interesting to see which upgrades get deemed illegal. Was it Ross Brawn that said a lot wouldn't be in the spirit of the rules and they'd look into banning them sooner?
yes
Has Horner actually already said "the new merc violates the spirit of the rules and there's parts that aren't legal"m
Starting already fgs lol
What I dont like with Christian is why do whatever he says always go direct to merc? never talk anything else.
Boy is obsessed with merc
Yeah so he's perfectly happy with what everyone else is doing?
Not like RB haven't tried to find ways that aren't in the spirit as well
Everytime I hear Christian say something he direct goes after merc I dont understand that. Therefore I feel like its most of the time nonesense xD
Everyone will be doing it
Come on, it was to be expected. As if Toto wouldnāt and isnāt doing the same š
Toto always complaining and Christian is always whining on media. Its the same, but he does not go after people directly.
Pretty sure he does go all the time against RB as their main competitor š
Itās always āeveryone is against usā as well as a defense
Yeah but haven't heard about Toto doing it so difference is Horner is already going public
He dont go on media and whine but complains
ALOT
Worst case they will allow it for a season and then ban it š
I have very little time for both of them now but Horner slightly less than Toto. Horner has always been worse and whining in the media and targeting people.
See how much difference it makes first. Might be completely useless š
Horner and Toto very similar, the worse is Helmut Marko.
Toto and Horner can be reasonable
Oh yeah Helmut is absolutely the worst. Was reading something from an ex RB team member the other day and he said he's really scary and actually not a nice guy
Horner always go public and direct right away. Toto always complain and makes things happen, But Marko is talking nonesense most of the time.
Helmet is by far the worst
Toto is also name calling though
That bromance comment was utterly unjustified
Toto and Christian are as bad as each other. Christian doesn't sugar coat or say it in a cheeky way like Toto.
Also, the Merc jelly pods looks disgusting. š¤®
Ross Brawn saying, "first look doesn't appear there's anything here that goes against objectives of the regulations".
"Didn't anticipate Mercedes concept and its a very extreme interpretation of the regulation. There'll be a lot of debate but that's what happens"
Always Mercedes
Not our fault msm were widely reporting it š
The cars look so slow through slower corners
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There is no controversy
The controversy is whether it will be beneficial or not ššš
Who impressed so far?
As speed leclerc but that is a fraction of the true testing I believe
I'm only impressed by the amount of laps Ferrari have been doing.
Mercedes may have pulled a pro gamer move
At the moment the car is bouncing
If itās indeed 1 sec per lap it will be over quite fast
Yeah the porpoising at the moment is absurd
Makes me dizzy even
Ferrari is quite bad also
I saw above the same for Alpine
Eh, its testing, we don;t worry
Rb and Alfa seemed more stable
I know, itās still funny to watch though
As if they are riding over pavement š
haha car go BOING
Everyone so fast
You don't say mate š¤£
Fast compared to what though? Not last seasons cars
V8 era
Still slower than V8s
I'd hope they're faster than V10s š they're ancient
I am happy the cars looks faster on TV now xD
They also look hard to drive
Williams 2nd š¤£
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Albono fast š
Haha nice tinder broš
What about?
Didn't mention that
You saw me?
I got mine yesterday. Was on sale 20% for entire year
Itās still on sale
Yaa it is š
Is it just £20? Is it worth it if you've already got Sky?
Not english dont have sky
Make a new account and buy it at 20% less š
I lose money for thatā¦
Why should I do that when I have anual fee
Im curious if you buy mid season do they still charge you full till december or it carries on until like a year say for example june 2021 - june 2022
It would be a full year subscription that would renew on the anniversary of your purchase
Thanks :). Makes sense now
I was thinking about getting between f1 tv pro and espn. But the F1 TV gives you some exclusives that others dont provide so its a nice touch. The prices remain the same from last year I guess
I had tried a month subscription, watched one race then was hooked on Pro.
Pit Lane channel, Live onboard cameras all at your control. Tough to beat anywhere
True. Those are some fun stuff to see. And for the price they offer its a good deal
Idk about ESPN
It dont work for me so
Its blocked in my country I tried to get it to watch basketball, Laliga
Yaa that sucks.
Gasly topped 1:34:010 with softs
The reds look strong today. Hope they can maintain their pace in the upcoming practice session
The cars still wobble a bit
Hope the drivers dont pass out š
I do think Mercedes is faster than what they are showing now but losing much times on small problems. Maybe because of the wobbly..
Incredible value for money
They should add bricks in the rear to stop the wobble š
Inspector seb
Hope he doesn't touch anything, else he'll have to give up his jelly beans š¤£
Its such a german thing, if they donāt understand the machine infront of them, they inspect it.
I imagine everyone in the paddock wants a closer look, hats of to Seb for just doing it
I get the impression the merc isn't all its cracked up to be. Didn't look fast or smooth
RB being sneaky sneaky lol
Still have two days of testing. Time for improvement for the teams
Toto sounded stressed when he was on radio to George
What's in your mind?
They are much faster I am sure of that. They got tons of mileage too. Remember last year, also bad in testing but comes back.
It took them a while to come back. But Toto was definitely not amused much
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Whatās the issue with the Mercedes mirrors? Canāt see a good picture atm
But I see quite a bit of complaining about that part in particular
Binotto this time
DTS out
Testing > dts
Apparently people think they're mounted on a "wing" and they're not allowed to be used for aero purposes
I was eating what happend with the engine?
Doesnāt look particularly good there
red flag?!?!
I believe it was brakes not the engine
Missed it as well but they said on sky that part of the disk broke
Looked like the rear brakes overheated and caught fire.
Caused a lot of damage sadly.
Yeah, brakes overheated
Never seen anything like it
When he started putting it out looked like one of the tyres exploded
It's actually common for brakes to overheat and fail
I missed like 2h? so how is it doing?
that Ik but never seen it explode
Hi!
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I've seen different pictures where the mirror is completely different though. Need to see it up close to see what it's actually like
Not much really tbh lol
I“m new, someone put me up to speed on what the current topic is, please
Day2 testing and dts out

