🏎│real-f1-chat

[lusty hornet]

This isn’t true Cus the caps don’t include salaries

Or didn’t at the time

That was over a number of years though but agreed. He also left Cus he knew the only way was down.

[crude kiln]

Similar but still so different is how I feel about that 😆 All we can do is speculate, but I personally don't think the record chasing businessman Hamilton would walk away now. Much more likely he would retire after next season if he loses to Russell imo.

Not even sure he would quit then. Quite common that sportsmen stay longer than they should, but Lewis was so strong last season it feels like he could go on for even more years, as long as the new cars suit him.

[opal galleon]

If Mercedes’ are competitive then I don’t see a reason to retire

If the new designs and cars works as they should be you can see ham going to overtake a lot

[crude kiln]

Especially not until he has that 8th title. And even then he might like to get a 9th.

[opal galleon]

Make that 10th

Lol just dreaming

[crude kiln]

Yeah if they keep dominating like they have since 2014 it's very possible.

[opal galleon]

He probably get 8th I don’t think he can push til 9th

It’s unbelievable if Mercedes’ is that competitive to still win cc and dc

[crude kiln]

What do you mean?

[opal galleon]

If they keep winning then Mercedes’ is just better with the new cars and regs.

[crude kiln]

I'd love for more teams to challenge but to me it feels like Merc is just too good to not stay the best team. But we'll see 😇

[opal galleon]

I do believe they stay competitive until engines changes.

They are really good when it comes to aero department perhaps the best.

[foggy cipher]

Lewis seemed so drained after this season. I’m not sure if he will be able to be that competitive next year especially if Ferrari get their shi right

[sturdy moss]

Last time Lewis seemed drained he had just lost to Rosberg IMO he came back stronger that time even though Merc were still dominating

[heady sonnet]

I’m sure he will return and will be more than motivated

Especially with George in the team also

[frail osprey]

I thought those last 4 races were some of his most flawless drives in years

[opal galleon]

But still he haven’t pushed that hard as max has, so I think Lewis has still tons more to offer.

[radiant eagle]

Ye let's pretend that Hamilton isn't going to be 6 years older than he was in 2016, and that when he lost to Rosberg he lost to his own team mate, so he knew he still had the best car by far AND Rosberg retired, so all of those factors make this a completely different situation than next season

The fact Max won the championship with 10 wins (should be 11 because we all know he would have won Baku if he didn't have a puncture) despite having a far inferior car than Mercedes....speaks volumes about Max

Put Max in a Mercedes and he would have won around 18 races this season lol

[wild anchor]

So 9 then because spa was a gift with penalties for Iver taking in force and well Abu Dhabi was a nice gift from massi so it would be 9 🤣🤣

[wild anchor]

Led more laps than the whole grid but he had an inferior car, don't talk bollocks he had the best car for 70% of the season easy 🤣🤣

[radiant eagle]

@wild anchorConstructors championship would like to disagree with you

First time in over 30 years that the WDC isn't racing for the team what wins the WCC lmaoo

Well Max would have won in Spa anyways, he was that superior, and in that case, Silverstone was going to be won by Max anyways, if a certain driver didn't almost kill him and then got away with that joke of 10 sec penalty when it should have been a DSQ

Not even gonna mention Hungary where Max would have most likely won too if the other Mercedes driver didn't go Kamikaze and crash Max out of the race

[wild anchor]

Bottas is better and they short fueled perez in Abu Dhabi so 🤣🤣

[radiant eagle]

Bottas is better than who ?

[wild anchor]

Bottas locked up but okay if that's kamikazi then so is max dicing inside of every corner and forcing everyone to run wide every time, he even got penalised for doing it in jeddah and then brake checked lewis. Oh parked on Lewis head and says he deserved it. Fact is max had the better car but of course max won so its all him whereas Lewis winning its a magic engine isn't it

[radiant eagle]

Bottas would have had 2nd place in Monaco if his pitcrew didn't mess things up

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton did exactly the same thing in Abu Dhabi that Max did in Jeddah, Max got penalized, Hamilton didn't even get a single warning

Max was letting Hamilton overtake him, and Hamilton crashes against Max's car LMAO

[wild anchor]

Ewis did what the same as max in jeddah?

[radiant eagle]

Max got penalized for cutting the corner in Jeddah (and fairly so) and Hamilton did the same thing in Abu Dhabi in the first lap, cut the corner, gained a fair advantage and didn't get anything

[wild anchor]

Except the telemtary and the FIA all showed max brake checked him so no it was max Lewis didn't crash he was brake checked hence why max got the penalty 🤣

[radiant eagle]

How can he brake check him when he was ORDERED to let Hamilton pass ?

He was slowing down so Hamilton passes, Hamilton decides to slow down too ???? Why????? Why not just pass Max ?

0 logic

[wild anchor]

He had to cut the corner because max drove him straight off 🤣 did you even watch the race and of course ehe brake checked him the FIA which made the call in Abu Dhabi woth the restart you no doubt agree with but now you disagree with them about the 2.4g deceleration of max right in front of Hamilton and the slight changes of direction but of course you'll ignore the FIA about that won't ya, imagine thinking your right when the official investigation made the findings using the data SUPLLIED by maxs car or maybe the data was wrong and he didn't suddenly brake and register 2.4g of deceleration

[radiant eagle]

Mate I am not saying Hamilton should have conceded the position, I said he should have at least slowed down, and since he didn't, he should have got a penalty

Hamilton had to cut the corner, but then slow down to the distance he was from max before the corner, which was around 0.3 seconds, after the corner it was over 1 second

[wild anchor]

He did slow down and return the gap Race control even said that to horner when horner brought that up

[radiant eagle]

He didn0t

Ha gained time

[wild anchor]

Horner asked and race control said he did

[radiant eagle]

Go check the race again, you're too busy being blindly biased

[wild anchor]

Theres a radio between horner and Michael and horner asks that question and masi said he has returned the gap the point it was and thus no further action, check it yourself

[radiant eagle]

Bottom line is, Max deserved the title and he did it with a far inferior car, while also being taken out in 2 races by both Mercedes, AND having a puncture in Baku, absolutely embarrassing how Hamilton wasn't able to win the title with all these factors in his favor

I don't care what Masi said, go check the race again, Hamilton gained time, he gained around 0.6 seconds to Max

You do know that they show the gaps between drivers on the screen right?

[wild anchor]

Better car by far for most of the season and max was to blame aswell for Silverstone but obviously your right about everything and fia are wrong because you say so 🤣🤣 your getting right wound up hearing facts that go against your narrative arnt ya it's actually amusing, and FYI the timings are screen left not screen right

And if needing the FIAs help all season and then finally 2 sets of reds an underufeld teammate to back up the rival, 2 safety cars to limit the gaps and then remove all obstacles between 1st and 2nd while aimulatniosly blocking 3rd from getting to 2nd then sure with all that he must if deserved it 🤣🤣

[radiant eagle]

I said " You do know that they show the gaps between drivers on the screen right? " as in , RIGHT? you do know this, RIGHT ???

Not as in left and right

You're so dumb it hurts lol

Anyways, I gave you all the facts, you gon say Hamilton did nothing wrong, and that RB was 30 times better than Mercedes bla bla bla, boring

Enjoy the crying party mate, cya

[wild anchor]

It's amusing how childish you are though stay don't go this is fun your Propper wound up, your facts* are not the facts though are they, max has some blame for Silverstone, read the official factual report from the official body. Again everything you have actually said isn't the actual facts that the FIA have stated are they they're your little incorrect versions and the fact that you cant even see the clear sarcasm makes me concerned abit, take the blinders off fella you'll see the actual truth because your version of events arnt correct are they and again imagine thinking your right when all the reports and findings tell everyone your wrong about it all 🤣

[radiant eagle]

Max had 0 blame for Silverstone, Hamilton overtakes Leclerc in the SAME corner, and he gave Leclerc gave hamilton less space than Max, and Hamilton didn't throw him out the track

[wild anchor]

And what isit with you redbull fans and the obsession with saying everyone's crying 🤣, dude I'm high and you getting annoyed is hillarious and yes he is to blame for some of Silverstone the stewards even said so themselves didn't they

Do you know what predominantly means?

[half atlas]

Just let it go

[radiant eagle]

RB fan? Idc about RedBull

[half atlas]

Max won

Lewis didnt

[radiant eagle]

I support Ferrari mate

Anyways enjoy this fact

[wild anchor]

Well don't that's what happened 🤣

[wild anchor]

That's what happened nobody has said it didn't 🤔

[radiant eagle]

It was so obvious that FIA did everything they could to award Hamilton his 8th title

Hamilton should have been DSQ in Silverstone, simple as that

[half atlas]

Fia neither favoured max or Lewis

[radiant eagle]

Both Mercedes needing to crash against Max in order to try and win, was pretty pathetic to see

[half atlas]

Both got the their share of decisions against em

[radiant eagle]

The only decision Max got in his favor ALL YEAR, was the last race on the safety car

That's it

[wild anchor]

That's dillusional that fella

[half atlas]

And brazil

[radiant eagle]

Brazil?

[half atlas]

Deserved a pen

[radiant eagle]

You mean the race Mercedes tried to cheat their way to the win and didn't get DSQ ?

[half atlas]

Tho lewis got more lucky

[ember echo]

even in saudi, lewis went off track to gain advantage in turn 1 itslef

[radiant eagle]

Mercedes breaking the rules to have that illegal rear wing ahahaha

[half atlas]

Saudi was a shitshow@lmfao

Max was blatantly penalised there

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton needed a penalty for crashing into Macx

In Jeddah

[half atlas]

That was neither maxs fault nors lewis

[radiant eagle]

Max slowing down to let Hamilton by, and the idiot slows down and crashes into Max instead of just overtaking him

[half atlas]

Was on race control

[ember echo]

and ppl saying hamilton has been robbed

[wild anchor]

You mean the broken rear wing you really need to read the stewards reports mate and again max brake checked everyone knows it happened 🤣

[half atlas]

Didn’t communicate

[half atlas]

He hasnt been imo

I mean he deserved to win the race sure

Max deserved the championship

[ember echo]

100% truth

[radiant eagle]

It will be beautiful when Hamilton leaves F1 so we can go back to racing again and leave politics out of F1, plus his fans are usually brainless

[half atlas]

Every fanbase has brainless fans lol

[ember echo]

yess, see the likes of Leclerc , Ocon , Russell rise up

[radiant eagle]

FIA doing everything they can to help Hamilton so they don't call F1 racist LOL

[half atlas]

you are being one rn w your lewis agenda

[wild anchor]

That's it you don't like Lewis because he's black that's simply it isn't it your just a racist

[radiant eagle]

Not really, mentioned facts only up untill now lol

[keen sedge]

:bar_chart: Hamilton was favoured throught the season

🇦 yes
🇧 no
🇨 fia is shit

[ember echo]

🤣

[radiant eagle]

Nice argument, for someone who understands 0 racing ahahah

[wild anchor]

You know the word racist has nothing to do with racing right, I mean I know they look similar and it might confuse you but they're unrelated 🤣

[radiant eagle]

2007 - F1 was racist
2008 - Hamilton won
2009 - F1 was racist
2010 - F1 was racist
2011 - F1 was racist
2012 - F1 was racist
2013 - F1 was racist
2014 - Hamilton won
2015 - Hamilton won
2016 - F1 was racist
2017 - Hamilton won
2018 - Hamilton won
2019 - Hamilton won
2020 - Hamilton won
2021 - F1 was racist

Deepwood, probably.

[ember echo]

👍

[radiant eagle]

Ye I was saying you know nothing about racing, so your only argument is to call people racist for no reason mate

[wild anchor]

Wow really mature you arnt ya and your bringing up stuff being racist I just pinpointed that your one and fairly quickly too, you said I mentioned the FIA is racist because lewis didn't win, you literally brought race and the racism thing up 🤣

[wild anchor]

Has anyone ever called F1 racist

[radiant eagle]

Idkwhat to tell you mate, I really don't know how to describe what Verstappen champagne tastes like

[wild anchor]

I've never said they racist

[radiant eagle]

Go watch Abu Dhabi again

Nice race, at least Perez didn't take out Hamilton, like bottas did to max

[ember echo]

Perez the most underrated driver i would say

and the best wet driver in the game

[jaunty cave]

Yes agree

[wild anchor]

Awww boohoo shall we release the safety car because your tears are making it a wet race 🤣

[radiant eagle]

@wild anchor nah, safety car cause you still crying that Max won with a far inferior car

Imagine Verstappen in a Mercedes

18 wins

In a year, easily

[wild anchor]

Who's crying though your the one having to try and justify maxs win as a non gift we all know it was a last lap gift 😂😂

[radiant eagle]

Sure, they just gifted him back the wins they took from him earlier in the season

[wild anchor]

It's amazing max is fantastic but it's all the Mercedes car 🤣 dillusional

[radiant eagle]

Like silverstone and Hungary

[wild anchor]

Again lookup what predominantly means there big fella

[radiant eagle]

It's what Mercedes is, dominant 5

[slow wren]

.

[wild anchor]

Your gunna spend all year trying to legitimise maxs win 🤣

Think we can all agree the FIA are rubbish 🤣

[radiant eagle]

Is it rubbish, if FIA had been 100% correct all season, Max would have won the championship before the last race

[frail osprey]

It's pretty common knowledge that RB had the better car for the majority of the season, especially up until the half way point

[radiant eagle]

@frail osprey wrong. Mercedes even won 3 out of the first 4 races

Lmao

I work on facts, not opinions

[frail osprey]

You've been making our eyes bleed with your opinions for almost 8 hours now bro

[radiant eagle]

What did I say that is an opinion? Name one.

[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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[frail osprey]

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I stopped reading at this point, but you have enough opinions (right or wrong) for an opinion buffet there

[radiant eagle]

Not opinions, they're literally facts. Max won in Silverstone in the sprint race

Max was on pole for spa

FIA never penalized Hamilton for the same things Max did get penalized for

[frail osprey]

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung-rev2&source=android-browser&q=what+is+a+fact#dobs=opinion

Happy to help 🤙

[opaque crest]

😂 this is good entertainment. Someone doesn't understand difference between fact and opinion 😂

Arguing against FIA facts with supposed "facts" 😂😂😂

[leaden dawn]

Versstapen cool

[opaque crest]

🙄🙄🙄

[opal galleon]

Just read what happend xD

Lol

[ember echo]

abu dhabi turn 1 is a good example

❌

[opaque crest]

Delusional fans at it again lol

Something to lighten the mood 🤪

[wild anchor]

That's funny 🤣🤣

[mystic aurora]

https://youtu.be/ZMciPMIABCM

[opal galleon]

My favourite one is toto talking about emails xD

[radiant eagle]

Imagine cheating that blatantly

You e-mail FIA during races

Typical Mercedes lads

[opal galleon]

Can you shut up and stop being an idiot

[radiant eagle]

Ok Mercedes fan boy

[opal galleon]

It’s not about that it’s you being an idiot. As many others see lmao.

[opaque crest]

👏👏👏

Well said

[radiant eagle]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Well said man! Hamilton should have won, Max is a cheater! 👏 👏 👏

[opal galleon]

😂

[frail osprey]

Why are still talking? You rock a picture of Albert Einstein and don't get basic English. You being American, this is very sad

Know when you look like a dunce

[radiant eagle]

I'm the one who doesn't get basic English, yet you the one who says " Why are still talking? " LOL

[frail osprey]

Yeah I left a word out, but I fully understand what words mean 🙄

[radiant eagle]

Sure you do mate, enjoy the off season and comeback when you understand a bit more about the sport

[frail osprey]

Maybe you should heed your own advice instead of spreading your vitriol on here

[radiant eagle]

Idc about Max though, that's the diff

[frail osprey]

Lol ok

"I dont care about max", but watch him sleep in max pajamas

Sadly this is now F1,. A new breed that dont understand rules telling people who have watched the sport for years how to watch it.

[radiant eagle]

I have probably watched F1 longer than you lol 1999 to be exact, but I won't expect you to know anything about any era outside of this DRS generation so I forgive you for your ignorance

[frail osprey]

Lol

I'm 31, so try again

It's easy to assume people that show you up are children though. Maybe log out I dunno?

[opaque crest]

Didn't someone post the quote, "It's difficult to argue with smart people, impossible to argue with stupid" Seems very apt lol

[crude kiln]

What I'm seeing here is a bunch of HAM biased ppl jumping a VER biased person 😅

[opal galleon]

It’s not about that at all, it’s about a guy don’t have brain cells plus being stupid at the same time.

[crude kiln]

It's exactly about that. This guy and a HAM biased person started the discussion and were both on same level. Then that HAM biased Skinner guy jumped in and kept going with support from you and King Sid as well since you agree with the HAM side.

[opal galleon]

Nope, and you telling me only listen to ham side nope. This guy is not being bs he is being an idiot. And only talks about stuff that don’t make sense pure fact that’s why I jump in. It’s not about any side at all if you read thru this guy talks nonsense in either sides. You telling me jumping on ham side is bs.

It’s not about any sides it’s about this guy being complete idiot

When he got caught and skinner exposed him, he deleted all his messages…..

Pure fact

[opaque crest]

I'm on the side with facts and in this case the guy was ignoring them to try and pass his opinions off as facts

[opal galleon]

I don’t think it’s about any sides this time, this guy is just complete joke. And he brags about bs stuff on either sides….

I know how it started, it was late night for me, I woke up and still the same….

[opaque crest]

I've already said Max deserved the title, just can't stand idiots on either side bragging or causing arguments for no reason

Thought we'd all moved on but apparently it's cool to gloat

[crude kiln]

@opal galleon @opaque crest What I'm saying is that he and another guy had the typical discussion where one is biased to VER and the other to HAM.

The main reason only that guy gets it now is because 3 more of you is agreeing with the HAM side in this. That's why only he gets jumped because you don't agree with him.

[opal galleon]

I am actually losing it, you telling me being on ham side when I haven’t even agreed to anyone….. can you read???

I am on my own side and that guy being complete idiot is my point….

[opaque crest]

It's not I don't agree with him, he was making up rubbish trying to pass it as "facts". If it was a Ham fan I'd have done the same

[opal galleon]

It’s haven’t talked or agreed to anything on either sides can’t you get that???

[crude kiln]

What did he make up? Was it worse than the other guy saying Silverstone was Max's fault?

[crude kiln]

We all know you are on HAM and Merc's side since long and why you only take the HAM guys side in only saying one of the two was an idiot when they both argued the same way with their OPINIONS

[opaque crest]

Far inferior car, only decison Max got was last lap Abu Dhabi etc etc

[crude kiln]

Yeah that's his opinion.

[opal galleon]

Even that guy is RB dude and he can’t get it either.

[opaque crest]

He didn't state any facts and went against what FIA have said

[crude kiln]

FIA who you thought got the last race wrong?😅

[opal galleon]

You’re actually bs me, I haven’t made any statement and you making a statement to me is so wrong

[crude kiln]

What?

[opaque crest]

FIA did get it wrong but it wasn't the only decision that went in Max's favour all season

[crude kiln]

Most of those things are opinions tho. That's the tricky part and why I think it's sad to see 4 ganging up on 1. Simple as that.

[opal galleon]

You’re making statements that ain’t even relevant to my point that the guy is an idiot and it’s not about sides. And even a RB guy being very generous and reasonable and still the other guy is just being an idiot? And you making a statement that I go for Mercedes and Ham side…. You’re bs me and your argument is not relevant…

Don’t make a statement that “suppose” be true. You’re making me mad telling me that I am on sides with anyone. And I haven’t even agreed to someone. And you’re arguments ain’t even relevant…

[opaque crest]

I'm going to go hibernate until March so I avoid all this, not worth it lol. Just pointed out the guy was going against clear facts lol

[crude kiln]

I didn't see that part from yesterday morning or when it was but sounds to me like the HAM guy he started the other discussion with after. Typical bias talk from both sides.

[opal galleon]

Even RB people talked facts… and thru their opinions

[opal galleon]

It’s about the guy being an idiot and don’t even listen to any sides. Nor listen to anyone…..

[crude kiln]

OK didn't mean to make anyone mad but reacted to how 1 guy got jumped and called alot of bad things cuz ppl didn't agree with his opinions. All of whom leaning towards HAM's side in the decisions.

If he had annoyed you long before that, I hadn't seen that 😅

[opal galleon]

That’s why I jump in, I saw this guy keep bragging after I woke up. And they started at night for me. And I saw the guy was still not being reasonable. Either which sides it is, this guy was just being nonsense to any sides

[crude kiln]

I didn't think all was nonsense from either side, but was nonsense from both sides as well. Imo.

But let's drop it now 😅

[opal galleon]

Him being ganged is completely understandable when he can’t even agree with any sides.

[radiant eagle]

Who deleted all the messages?

I haven't deleted a single message here mate

I don't need to hide anything, especially not on discord from strangers lol

[radiant eagle]

These guys are mad for no reason, maybe they're british and in that case it's completely understandable lol and I'll stick to what I said, Max was treated unfairly by the FIA, and with the exception from the very last race, Hamilton got helped all year

[crude kiln]

Yeah and you have right to have that opinion. But is obviously a sensitive subject still, so best if both sides lay low 😅 Had the race finished under SC the RB side would had been salty too, so for me what happened in last race in particular was a lose/lose for FIA no matter what call they had made. And one could say the same about many other decisions this season.

[jaunty cave]

Hi from germany

[opaque crest]

👋

[craggy relic]

Hi guys!

What do you think about the best strategy in Interlagos?

[heady sonnet]

#series-11-and-12

[frail osprey]

Mate you're as embarrassing as this guy everytime you speak in this channel. Anytime someone speaks reason or quotes rules they're automatically a Hamilton fan. You've been here long enough for everyone to see you hate Hamilton and will go to great lengths of stupidity to points that out. Just please stop typing for everyone's own sanity

Honestly the most dumb and bias guy in the server, but speak impartial so go undetected lol

[frail osprey]

You fail to realise that most british people hate Hamilton, you do a poll in UK and I'd be happy to bet my life savings that LH is the most hated. So no, it has nothing to do with british.

[radiant eagle]

My god you're dumb

British people were celebrating mad crazy when Hamilton took out Verstappen in Silverstone, literally celebrating despite the fact that a driver could be seriously injured

or worse

[frail osprey]

Really?

Have you got facts for that??

[opaque crest]

Mate it was done and its Christmas, let's all be merry and happy!

[frail osprey]

Max fans know 2 words, silverstone and Hungary

That's it

[opaque crest]

Neither of you are going to agree, you've both got opinions, let's just look forward rather than back now

[frail osprey]

I'm dumb and you dont understand what a fact is

[split ocean]

happiness can never be achieved here

[frail osprey]

Rubbing my hands at bobo reply

No doubt Hamilton forced me to write it

[split ocean]

nobody is going to bite the bullet and end this conversation, they are just gonna argue back and forth

[frail osprey]

It's a long one 🤣

Come on boba

Add some fuel to that Ham hate

Add that

[opaque crest]

Why you stirring things? Got nothing better to do?

[crude kiln]

Yeah as King Sid said it's Xmas.

And about what you've said about me I've been very open here about liking HAM as a driver but not as a person. And that I think that Max deserved the title this season since it would had been over before last race if he hadn't been so unlucky, and that I would had thought the opposite if it had been Max and Checo who took HAM out 2 races in a row and did dirty tricks in pits, SC and restarts etc.

Just pointed out that what I saw here was 4 HAM biased ppl jumping a Max biased one cuz of his opinions which I felt was a bit over the top.

But anyway merry Xmas to you all in this channel!💜

[frail osprey]

No, its xmas even, nothing is open. Plus I see he is typing 🤷‍♂️

Well I didn't expect something so partial...

[split ocean]

dont bother just leave and skip through the next 300 msg in 12 hours

[frail osprey]

You was slamming the guy for 6 months 🤣

[opaque crest]

Merry Christmas Boba, we agree or disagree but generally more reasonable than most people on here 😂

[frail osprey]

Agreed

[opaque crest]

I'm going now, have a good Christmas everyone, let's hope it brings peace 😂😂😂

[frail osprey]

Boba, fait play man

I respect that

Especially from you ❤

[radiant eagle]

Go check the race again

[crude kiln]

Likewise 😆❤

[split ocean]

Can we just have one day of peace (seems not lol after that msg)

[radiant eagle]

And watch videos of them cheering

[frail osprey]

Do 1

[crude kiln]

@frail osprey Thanks man!😀❤

[radiant eagle]

Watch everyone in the stands literally cheer

As Max hits the wall and Hamilton drives by

And then in the end Hamilton celebrating the win with an GB flag like he didn't almost kill another driver, celebrating like he shouldn't have been dsq

The crowd went nuts

British media all over him, praising him non stop

[frail osprey]

I got a 1 hour ban lol

Let's leave Dias arguing with himself on xmas eve ❤

[tacit lynx]

does anyone know when the season ends?

[frail osprey]

Should be March

[radiant eagle]

You got banned because you can't argue without insulting, your debating skills are non existant so you use insults

[heady sonnet]

The season ended two weeks ago. If you mean in-game one - #💬│f1-clash-general

[tacit lynx]

the season of the game

[opal galleon]

What the heck happend here

[frail osprey]

Yes, insulting as proven by my messages lol go to sleep mate, dream that you have people to wake up to on xmas day you sad lonely guy

[radiant eagle]

Again with the insults, I am having a great time with family mate, not crying watching Hamilton videos conspiracies, merry Xmas sadlad

[opal galleon]

Love you Xmas

[winged vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-celebrate-minions-merry-christmas-gif-13321349

[frail osprey]

😂 I'm not crying, more than happy to point out the biggest sporting scandal since the Serie A match fixing shenanigans of the 00s whenever I get the chance

But you accept it 👍

[radiant eagle]

Keep crying, the biggest scandal was not desqualifying Hamilton in silverstone

[frail osprey]

Or DQin Max for brake testing in Jeddah, even a standard 30 second penalty would have ruined the 'showdown' 🙄

Your boy got special treatment for trying to kill people all season and you scream foul play about Silverstone lol

Norris or Sainz would have won in that superior Red Bull without dangerous driving and with class imo

[radiant eagle]

Brake checking... LMAO, Max slows down for Hamilton to overtake him, and Hamilton decides to rear end max

😂 😂 😂

[frail osprey]

See the data

[radiant eagle]

Absolute autism

See the race

[frail osprey]

If you let someone pass you dont weave to the middle of the track 🤷‍♂️

Unless of course you are blind and have an IQ of yourself

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton slowed down and then followed right behind max

He should have been the one penalized

When he could have simply overtaken max and get on with the race

[frail osprey]

Ok lets role reverse

For 1 minute

Ham has the title in his hands and has been forcing people off track all season

Max is approaching a slowing down Hamilton on a fast straight braking heavily

Hamilton is slowly creeping mid track

[radiant eagle]

Who did max push off track all season? Dude lead the most laps all season, he barely saw anyone

[winged vessel]

Ham won 7 titles, Max wins 1 title.
And fans win arguments.
A lot happens in sports, let's see what happens in 2022

[frail osprey]

What do you do? Try to stay back or attack a small gap ?

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton should have also been desqualified in Brazil for cheating in the rear wing, and once again they get a slap on the wrist

[frail osprey]

Literally every driver on the grid has raised their concerns about max late breaking on corners 🤣🤣🤣

[radiant eagle]

Imagine having a Mercedes and still needing to cheat 😂😂😂

[frail osprey]

Imagine have a superior all season and then still cheating 😂

Actually I take that back

Max didn't cheat

[radiant eagle]

Mercedes by car the best car lul

[frail osprey]

Not his fault Masi is a clown

[radiant eagle]

Not Hamilton fault Masi didn't desqualify him in Brazil and silverstone either I guess

[frail osprey]

Mate Merc did not have the best car this year, I dunno why you keep saying this when results say otherwise

Merc had serious issues this year

[radiant eagle]

Constructors champions,keep talking

And that is facts.

[frail osprey]

RB put most of their budget to this season's car and performed to that budget

[radiant eagle]

When was the last time a driver won the wdc that wasn't in the wcc

[frail osprey]

This whole Max drove a slow car to a title narrative is so tedious, his car was so much quicker on the corners

[winged vessel]

Max, was better driver, Lewis is already Legend. Max had poor car compared to Lewis. But the end of season was controversial. So, I can see why we have fans debating so much. I feel for both drivers, because Lewis felt like robbed and Max never won on his merit solely. Poor end to such an exciting season. Thanks! To poor set of regulations. If I were Max, I know inside it was poor end of it. In the end we can argue all day long, to express opinions..

[radiant eagle]

Verstappen doing miracles with that kart, despite having Hamilton and bottas crash him out of races

And punctures in baku too 😂😂😂

[frail osprey]

Miracles 🤣

The guy can't even race wheel to wheel, the best 'racing' we saw from RB this season was from Perez.

[radiant eagle]

Imagine getting crashed out by Hamilton, then by bottas, having a puncture in Baku aaaaand still winning the championship despite having a faaaar inferior car

[winged vessel]

To weigh luck: Max had more instances of bad luck and Lewis only needed Latifi to crash to get sad.

[frail osprey]

Imagine supporting a driver that can't even race within the line 🤷‍♂️

[radiant eagle]

Like Hamilton in Abu Dhabi cuts the corner, gains advantage and no further investigation needed 😂😂😂

[frail osprey]

You support a driver that had a fast car and consistently broke late to keep position because he can't go wheel to wheel

[radiant eagle]

Max did the same in jeddah and got 10 sec penalty

[frail osprey]

Imagine how many collisions this season if Hamilyon didn't yield

Wrecklass dumbass driver

[radiant eagle]

Ahahah cry more mate, keep crying, you absolutely understand 0 about F1, probably started watching in 2017 or something

[frail osprey]

Ha, yeah, ironic coming from a max fan crying about Silverstone

[radiant eagle]

Oh nooo there are overtakes in f1 oh nooo

Nobody should ever overtake

Well, at least max doesn't try to kill his opponents, like Hamilton did in silverstone 😂😂😂

Can't overtake fairly??? Crash him out!!!

[frail osprey]

Hamilton will win his 8th next season whilst max is midfield and you Netflix boys will disappear

Probably back to nascar

[radiant eagle]

That's if Hamilton doesn't retire 😂😂😂

Sure he will win, ahahah imagine being so mad that you think max will be a midfield driver ahahah these 16 year olds

[frail osprey]

Red bull used all their budget for this season 🤷‍♂️

Chances are they will be midfield

[radiant eagle]

I wish Hamilton would go to redbull and max to Mercedes, Hamilton would struggle to even get a podium, while max would most likely win every race

That's how superior Mercedes is compared to the rest

[frail osprey]

Come on now, you're now discrediting yourself

I give you the time of day for the sake of debate so please dont lower your IQ any lower

I need you to at least be a worthy debate

[radiant eagle]

Ok guy who started watching f1 4 years ago

[frail osprey]

So you really think Hamilton wouldn't get the best out of any cars hes in?

[radiant eagle]

Let me guess, you started 'supporting' Hamilton when Mercedes was dominating everything

Mate, Hamilton lost a championship to ROSBERG

[frail osprey]

I don't support hamilton, I'm a McLaren fan, Lando is my guy

[radiant eagle]

Rosberg literally a bang average driver 😂😂😂

In the same car

[frail osprey]

Names 1 team mate to beat lewis, fails to name the numerous others 🙄

Remember when crystal palace beat man city hahahaha

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is you

[radiant eagle]

Why you think I want Max to come to Ferrari? So he can make us look like a good team again

[frail osprey]

Dumb idiot who spouts rubbish

[radiant eagle]

Button has beat Hamilton

2011

You're so dumb it hurts

[frail osprey]

You call me dumb and you're spouting it's the car like a Facebook Karen

[radiant eagle]

Literally bang average drivers who have beat Hamilton in his prime

In the same car

[frail osprey]

Where was merc when ham joined?

Please answer me this

How did the car get so dominant

Lewis' in put raised Merc like Schum did in the past

But because hes current champion, you look past that

[radiant eagle]

I never said Hamilton isn't a good driver mate, I am saying he's not all that you're saying

[frail osprey]

What did I say?

[radiant eagle]

His Mercedes is the most dominant team ever in F1

And guess what? He wasn't the only champion in the car

[frail osprey]

Yes but did he contribute to that Merc?

[radiant eagle]

He did

So?

Doesn't mean he's a better driver than Max for it

[frail osprey]

If you understand F1 then his input has added to Merc dominance no?

[radiant eagle]

Sure it did

Doesn't matter, in the exact same car he has been beaten twice, by drivers who are average

Good driver, but not all what you make it seem

Give Max a Bottas' seat this season and Max would have won the title 3 or 4 races before the end lol

[frail osprey]

How do you judge his driving in these last 4 races?

Let's ignore penalties etc

But when push came to shove how do you think he drove?

[radiant eagle]

What else is to judge? Mercedes having 20+ km/h on the straights compared to RedBull is enough to tell you the story

[frail osprey]

I personally think those last 4 races were the most flawless drives we could ever see

I dont like Hamilton, most brits dont, but he was class in the last 4 duels

[winged vessel]

Lewis days are numbered as a dominant driver, time for young blood to rise, begun. Lewis can have his respect as Legend, no one ever gonna beat his number of wins and poles and multiple wins on same tracks, I literally do not see any driver in next 44 years beat his record book, to be clearly honest. Without bias

So, we have to live with Lewis been mentioned in races on and off after his retirement. 7 title is enough, 8th would be a cherry 🍒 😉. To close the history book for a long time ⌛

Russell, Charles, Max, Lando - is near future

With a hint of Sainz n Gasly

Lewis Vettel Riccardo would be gone within next 5 to 7 years

[opal galleon]

Relax there honey, records are there to be beaten.

[winged vessel]

Long road, my friend

[opal galleon]

Also the rumours about him retiring so over, he finally said to Mercedes’ that he will be back at 2022

[radiant eagle]

Proceeds to be completely biased

I see Max getting 8 world titles to be completely honest and just like you, unbiased.

[winged vessel]

Facts, are written. Max was better driver than Lewis this year. Lewis had better car and experience

[radiant eagle]

British people will always be biased, it's just their DNA

Max isn't even in his prime, imagine in 2/3 years what he will be like

[winged vessel]

🤣

[opal galleon]

I am still right, records are there to be beaten. One day a young gun going to beat those records.

[winged vessel]

Russell Lando Max Charles is next battle.

[opal galleon]

I don’t mind Lewis, he has done absolutely everything. Expect getting that 8. I don’t see Lewis as a threat, it’s more like the younger generation that is the threat. That’s going to hold max from being WDC couple of more likes of Charles, George, Lando,

[winged vessel]

For max to win 8 titles, the way he drives, he can cause lots of collisions 💥. Once he improves on his suicidal dives, he would be in his prime, in a weak car you need a driver like Max to deliver, he is suicidal, we saw in Silverstone and Monza, very hot headed. Lol

[frail osprey]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 mate, as much as I've loved debating with you, please stop this stuff

[radiant eagle]

How is it unrealistic?

You want Hamilton to be the best ever and never think anyone will beat his records lol you're just biased

[opal galleon]

Less talking, more talk in 2022. No one knows anything.

[frail osprey]

As I said previously, if you did a poll in the UK Lewis would heavily come out as most hated sportsman ever. He isn't liked here at all

[radiant eagle]

He's not even the best ever now lmao

" if if if "

[winged vessel]

I believe Max would win 10 championships. And m super un biased, 🤣

[radiant eagle]

British people will always support Hamilton

[frail osprey]

It's actually quite sad how much LH is hated in UK

[opal galleon]

He is actually really hated in Uk. I am not British myself but big majority in Uk don’t like him.

[winged vessel]

Hamilton has most fans on social media, worldwide.

[radiant eagle]

Max is 24 and he's already effin dominant

[radiant eagle]

This LMAO

that guy wants Hamilton to look like a poor underdog :(

[frail osprey]

But UK hes hated. We wasnt on about world wide bias

The notion of 'UK fans' is wrong

We love mclaren

[winged vessel]

Lol, you guys are great at debate. Congratulations!
I got some family stuff to do.
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 my friends. It was a great discussion 👍.

[radiant eagle]

You lads cheered when Max almost got killed by your idol

Keep quiet

[opal galleon]

✅

[winged vessel]

😘

[opal galleon]

Sus

[frail osprey]

What, we cheered because a Briton won at silverstone. If Max yielded he would have won tbf, but it was a hard lesson for him

[radiant eagle]

No mate, I meant when Max crashed out

[frail osprey]

I know

[radiant eagle]

everyone was cheering

af

[frail osprey]

I can read

Max ruined himself on that turn

Who turns in at that instant?

Silverstone is perfect example why max wont win 8 WDCs

Unless Horner and his corner get in his ear, but they wont

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton did EXACTLY the same overtake on Leclerc later on that race and he left so much more space for Leclerc

Hamilton crashed Verstappen at a highly dangerous corner without any concern, say what you want, it was a desqualification

[opal galleon]

Nothing says it was a DSQ on the book. So blame the system, yet again FIA is a joke. Also that Mercedes’ was clearly faster than that Ferrari. There is no need for him to overtake that Ferrari. Also his rival got 0pts which means he gains either way if he ended P2.

Also why the heck would Hamilton pull the same move as he did at Max. Doing the same mistake twice is just dumb.

[radiant eagle]

Ye you made it clear

Why would he do the same MISTAKE

He should have been properly penalized for that mistake

And he got a slap on the wrist

" Hey here take 10 seconds penalty when we know you'll win by 40 seconds, since Max is out "

[opal galleon]

Again nothing points out that should be higher than 10s and DSQ, again the system this season was a joke

[frail osprey]

If max didn't DNF it would have been 10 seconds each

But max drove himself into a wall so Hamilton gets the blame

[radiant eagle]

?!?!?!? LMAO this guy I swear

[opal galleon]

I think Hamilton would have received a stop and go + 10s

[radiant eagle]

He's just blindly biased

[frail osprey]

It's not biased

How

[radiant eagle]

It wasn't a stop and go, it was basically a pit stop

[frail osprey]

Haha

Max couldn't have done the same as Hamilton is Brazil

[radiant eagle]

Mate go check the race again, watch how Hamilton overtakes Max and how he overtakes Leclerc

[opal galleon]

Blame FIA max don’t get penalty in Brazil but in Jeddah for same move?????

[radiant eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGgpdb2WhRE

[frail osprey]

We can talk FIA all day

[radiant eagle]

Enjoy it

[frail osprey]

Inconsistent all season

[radiant eagle]

Watch how your idol gives leclerc 2 meters of space, but drives into Max

[frail osprey]

@radiant eagle you go to YouTube but deny brake testing lol

[radiant eagle]

FIA wanted Hamilton to win so badly

" max drove himself into a wall " LMAO that has to be the most idiotic exscuse ever for that move

This is is under 18 for sure, no way this is an adult talking

Thank God once Hamilton retires all these degenerates will go away from the sport

[frail osprey]

Mate FIA favoured both drivers all season. They wanted the showdown that they got. I dont know who max and lewis fans dont get this. Both drivers were spared penalties to make sure they were equal in final race

It was basically WWE this season

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton and Bottas ruining Max races

All I got to say

[frail osprey]

And that sums you up

I say both drivers got away with penalties

[radiant eagle]

Name one time

for Max

[frail osprey]

Your reply "hamilton and bottas"

Please go to bed, you're a biased freak

[radiant eagle]

I can mention at least 3 times Hamilton got away with penalties this race

[opal galleon]

Both go to bed ✅

[radiant eagle]

Calls me biased freak, proceeds to say Max drove himself into a wall LMAO british fans never stop

[frail osprey]

If he yielded he would have been champion before Yas

[radiant eagle]

If Hamilton wasn't an undercover assassin behind the wheel Max would have won earlier

I agree

[opal galleon]

Assassin xD

[opal galleon]

I like you xD

[frail osprey]

I can't stress enough how much I hate Hamilton

But

I really hope he comes back next season and forces people like you to turn away from the sport

[opal galleon]

Wow

Relax this sport is for everyone

[frail osprey]

Nah

These netflix kids are something else

I would rather not have them in F1 to be honest

They've made me hate Max, and not because of Max himself

It's sad

[radiant eagle]

I haven't watched one episode of DTS mate, idc about Netflix like you

I been watching F1 since 1999/2000

Not 2017 like u

British dumb nut

[frail osprey]

Funny that, my first season in f1 was 8 years before you

But it's sad that someone as veteran as you is so blinded by bias and hate

Both those drivers deserved the WDC

But people like you twist and hate and make others hate your own views and driver

Its sad

In an ideal world we appreciate both drivers but here we are bickering over who did what and at what turn on which track. Both are arguably the greatest drivers we will see, but we make excuses and point fingers

Anyone that has a brain can see Lewis is dominant not because of his car, but because of his understanding of a car and his skills. Anyone that has a brain can see Max is a terrific driver and will push his car to the absolute limit. We are seeing two future legends of the sport and being divided by it. See Messi vs Ronaldo, Federer vs Nadal etc

[radiant eagle]

Shut up you acting all "mature" yet you called Max a dumbass driver

As I said, Rosberg won in that Mercedes and beat Hamilton

[frail osprey]

You can be a dumbass driver but be great too though...

[radiant eagle]

He's a good driver, but he's not the dominant driver you make him look like

[frail osprey]

Max is immature, Lewis was immature once

Ffs I give up

[radiant eagle]

Put Max and Hamilton in the exact same car, and Max will beat him 18 out of 20 races, easily

[frail osprey]

Mate, go to bed

Have a bash over a picture of max

We wont judge you

[radiant eagle]

Ok british guy who started watching in 2017, have fun being britishly biased

He's a knight now, you can blow him off in public

[frail osprey]

But please, for the love of God, understand formula 1 before you enter this channel again. Good night and merry christmas.

[radiant eagle]

British people making F1 drivers a knight

[opal galleon]

yo boba

sup

[crude kiln]

Can't we just agree that some races Merc had the better car and some RB had it?😅 Felt quite 50/50 to me over the whole season. And both of them had decisions go for them and against them. It was a great season all in all and I can't wait for the next one with the new cars!

[crude kiln]

Sus 👀😆

[radiant eagle]

If it was 50/50 then they would have had the same points, Mercedes won

Max had a puncture, how reliable is RB ? Hamilton literally had 0 problems with his car all year

[frail osprey]

I agree. Merc turned up the levels behind their own limit for the last 5 races, surprised there was no technical dnfs

[crude kiln]

Yeah I'm leaning slightly towards Merc as well but feel it's still fair to say 50/50. And if Silverstone and Hungary hadn't happed then it woukd had been alot closer. Maybe RB would had won CC then? But Merc also had DNF's so hard to tell.

[opal galleon]

ow

how

[crude kiln]

Just joking 😅

[radiant eagle]

Ye let's pretend Bottas pit stop in Monaco didn't exist, where he would have got 2nd place that race

[frail osprey]

🙄

@radiant eagle are you drinking a can of red bull right now?

[radiant eagle]

One thing is certain, Max will never be beaten by a team mate during his prime

In order to be considered for the GOAT debate, you can NEVER lose to your own team mate during your prime

[frail osprey]

Max will never be allowed to be beaten by a team mate whilst Horner is there

[crude kiln]

Yeah would be many races we had to go through and calculate a likely score 😆 But I still feel it's fair to say the cars were 50/50 in race dominance this season. But might be wrong of course.

[radiant eagle]

LUL imagine making that excuse

When Toto tried all he could to stop Rosberg from winning in 2016

[frail osprey]

Or you win 8 WDCs whilst putting input into a car like Michael...

[frail osprey]

How is it an excuse? Max is #1 driver at RB why would he be beaten by a team mate?

[radiant eagle]

Mercedes won 3 out of 4 races at the start of the season, and then finished with 3 wins out of 4 at the end

[frail osprey]

Why do you get offended by EVERYTHING

[radiant eagle]

Michael? He won with a effin Benetton !!!!

You know what Benetton was? Literally a kart in F1

Schumacher made Ferrari be dominant, hence why we have been garbage since he left

We had that half a driver in Kimi that doesn't even know how he won the title

[frail osprey]

I'm aware, but the point is Lewis joined a project and helped bould a dominant car

This is getting ridiculous and proves you just hate Lewis

[radiant eagle]

Ye and then he was beaten by Rosberg

[crude kiln]

Imagine that Merc seniors wanted Heidfeld ahead of Hamilton at first 😆 Was he even good?

[frail osprey]

But still won 7 WDCs

[radiant eagle]

Michael was never beaten by any team mate before his 1st retirement, then he cameback to F1 when he was 80 years old because he couldn't stay away from the tracks

[frail osprey]

So what is your point exactly??

[radiant eagle]

Ye he did, imagine if he didn't have the most dominant car ever

[frail osprey]

He either helped build a car or won because of the car????

[radiant eagle]

Give Schumacher this Mercedes when he was in his prime, and Schumacher would have won 12 titles

[frail osprey]

😂

So anyone but Lewis

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton is great

But he's no where near what people think he is

[frail osprey]

Stop it

Stop this hamilton is great stuff

You dont believe it

[radiant eagle]

Why do you think he left McLaren ?

[frail osprey]

Neither do people reading your nonsense

[radiant eagle]

I do, he's great, he's just not what you wanna make him out to be

[frail osprey]

Who's tryna make him out to be anything?

[radiant eagle]

He would be in my top 10 drivers ever, no doubt

[frail osprey]

So what are you arguing bro?

[radiant eagle]

Maybe he can make it to the top 5 ever, knowing F1 had a lot of overrated drivers

[frail osprey]

Who here has said Hamilton is best ever?

[radiant eagle]

I'm saying he's no where near Max

[frail osprey]

😂

[radiant eagle]

Max is already the best driver right now

[frail osprey]

Mate, max needs to prove a lot to be in the top 10

[crude kiln]

Nowhere near is a stretch but ofc people wouldn't had viewed him the same as they do today if he had stayed in McLaren. The car matters and Merc has had the best run F1 has seen.

[frail osprey]

He has 1 ex

Wdc*

[radiant eagle]

Mercedes has the most dominant car ever, and it didn't start with Hamilton, it started with Rosberg, Hamilton joined later on and yes he helped

[frail osprey]

But Hamilton tuned that car so deserves the plaudits. He isn't just a passenger in the best car

[radiant eagle]

So? He is 24 and he won his first one, let's see in 10 years where he'll be sitting at

God give Max this Mercedes and he will make F1 the most boring sport ever, by winning non stop

We will start betting on 2nd place

[frail osprey]

Hamilton tuned the hell out of that car, it's common knowledge he was the huge influence in the garage. Ergo him refusing to bow to Rosberg in 2016

[crude kiln]

Impossible for us to say how big impact he had in the car development. Feels quite safe to say they would have had a great car regardless. Merc seem like the best team top to bottom.

[stoic bear]

No Mikey no Mikey this was so not right!

[frail osprey]

I would like to see him do it personally but if he plans to stay at RB then he wont. He will need to move to win 3 let alone 8 or 10

[crude kiln]

"Mycul..." Love his accent 😆

[frail osprey]

The engine helps obviously but Hamilton had gave so much feedback that turned that car amazing. A quick Google will show this

[stoic bear]

Lmao that’s wot makes that quote so brilliant

[radiant eagle]

RB has won 4 straight with Vettel mate? It's not impossible to create a dinasty

with RB

[crude kiln]

Yeah driver input for sure is imortant but think we should be careful to credit drivers mainly for a car's performance. OK if they did like Lauda in Rush/irl 😆

[frail osprey]

Jesus christ. I hope you are back next season I really do.

[frail osprey]

I think drivers have more input than people think though, its not just engineers whacking out a great car and drivers being lucky. We've seen so many cases of it, Russell is heavily involved in the Williams car for example. Alonso was basically making the car at McLaren. Hamilton has basically created that Merc. Max is huge in that Redbull. We give very little to the drivers

[radiant eagle]

Let's also forget how glock decided to gift Hamilton his first wdc

Lmao

[frail osprey]

Jesus

Do you have a dart board with Hamiltons face on it?

We talk technical and you still bring it back to Hamilton

Have you ever left your bedroom? Genuine question Dias

[split ocean]

Albon is also very important in car development this year. RB said that albon testing on the sim helped them make better changes for the race and helped checo to adjust to the rb quicker

[crude kiln]

@frail osprey @split ocean Yes for sure, but my point is that it's hard to know HOW big impact a driver can have on the performance in these modern times.

[split ocean]

yeah cuz we dont have insider info and its not a statistic that we can judge

[frail osprey]

Oh yeah I agree we dont know how much but I think it's more than we think

We see #1 drivers get replaced for this reason imo

Ferrari is a great example, catered to Vettel then dropped him to go their own way.

As I used previously, we only need to look at McLaren to see the responsibility Alonso had there, a whole team were relying on Alonso to build a car to compete

[crude kiln]

@frail osprey Think there's never just 1 reason for letting someone like Vettel go tho, but might be one for sure. Like Ericsson and Nasr in the Sauber days. Ericsson was said to be extremely liked in the team and giving excellent feedback, while Nasr mostly seemed to stir up drama 😅 Ericsson got to stay despite Nasr being a much bigger talent. But not only cuz of those things I mentioned, money played a part as well 😅

[frail osprey]

I personally think Vettel was underperforming also, I dont think he he had that driven personality that year and hasn't since.

Hes been very 'flacid' since 2016 times, in my opinion of course

[crude kiln]

I've said here a few times that the new cars 2014 didn't seem to suit mainly him and Kimi. Will be interesting to see if there will be similar for others next season with the new cars...

[frail osprey]

Yeah I can't wait for next season

As much as we all (mostly all) hated that final race this season, I think next season should be epic

I'm hoping McLaren and Ferrari really push Merc. I doubt RB will do much but then they may do, it's up in the air really. But changes like this is so exciting. Hopefully it's a decade of Lando 😛

Also

[radiant eagle]

Vettel is also one of the most overrated drivers ever in my opinion

[frail osprey]

RB midfield will see Dias disappear 🤣

[radiant eagle]

You think I care about RB lmao

More like when Hamilton retires you'll stop watching F1, and thank god for that

You and his " fans " can go and look for a new sport

[frail osprey]

Proof you can't read 😂

I dont even know why I keep entertaining you but its amusing so I do

[radiant eagle]

Can't read what? Are your compregension skills that low? Ok i'll explain it to you like you "were" 14 years old

[frail osprey]

If you can read, look up and read and proper formula 1 discussion

[radiant eagle]

" were " because we all know you are an edgy teenager

[frail osprey]

I've just had too much to drink on xmas eve fella 🤪

[radiant eagle]

That's not a proper F1 discussion, that's you pretending to be respectful when inside you're raging because they not talking about Mercedes

[crude kiln]

Zzz... 😅 The stamina of you two

[radiant eagle]

Drinking or not, you have 0 knowledge about the sport

[frail osprey]

Ok mate

[split ocean]

I fell asleep, woke up and saw 300 msg here lol

[radiant eagle]

Guy said I'll disappear if RB is a midfield car, not knowing I'm a Ferrari fan. More like you will disappear once Hamilton retires

[frail osprey]

Google irony

"Alexa play irony"

From the dias household

[crude kiln]

So I'm not the only one here "accusing" people of being fans of certain drivers 😱😅

[jade field]

Lol

[frail osprey]

Speaking of RB without being funny though

Anyone have any knowledge of where they are next season?

[jade field]

Nah

[frail osprey]

They used most of this season's budget last season. Are they flunking, floating or competing? Can't see max being happy with 1 wdc to be honest

[jade field]

Probably trying to compete but I don’t think they have it

[frail osprey]

But going by horner last season they went all out

But finishing 4th in CC could kill them off long term, investors wont tolerate that

[jade field]

Yeah

Tbh I reckon there will be loads of crashes next season because max will be even more aggressive for more championships

[frail osprey]

So it's a strange time for RB no? They could bow out of F1 thinking long term as it wont be worth it for the suits.

In a few years not now obviously

[jade field]

I could see it happening

But then again Hamilton will be gone then so there will be less competition #

[frail osprey]

I dont think hamilton means less competition

Hes not THAT good

[crude kiln]

Meanwhile Red Bull has a net worth of €16 billion and an owner who has an interest in the sport 😅 But when he's gone who knows.

[jade field]

Yeah but if the decision could’ve gone either way this season

But max has lots of years left to dominate f1

[radiant eagle]

Max could start winning again when he's 28 and he'd still be in time to start dominating and get 8 world titles lmao

Hopefully in a Ferrari

[jade field]

Lol

[frail osprey]

Yeah but the owner wasnt keen on F1 Boba, even less so if they fall backwards again. They've had a good season but they still haven't won the CC. I dunno, I think if they fall back this season plugs will be pulled

[jade field]

Ferrari fan?

[radiant eagle]

Yea

[jade field]

Ok

[radiant eagle]

We been garbage since 2007

[jade field]

Lol

Not terrible but just not really up there

[radiant eagle]

Wym not terrible, anything that's not fighting for the title is terrible

[jade field]

Sainz hasn’t been bad

[frail osprey]

Young team and new regs. Times look good for Ferrari

[radiant eagle]

We went from having the GOAT to having a bunch of schumacher wannabes

[jade field]

Lol

[frail osprey]

Sainz is so good

[radiant eagle]

Vettel has to be the mentally weakest Ferrari driver of the last 20 years

[jade field]

Probably

[frail osprey]

😂 you have 2 of the best young drivers. What do you want??

[frail osprey]

At the time yes, he was finished

[radiant eagle]

Couldn't handle the pressure of driving for Ferrari, leading the world championship, leading his home GP, and crashing while having a comfortable lead

Ferrari was as close to Mercedes in 2018 as RB was this year to Mercedes

And Max won, Vettel choked

[frail osprey]

Vettel is the epitome of car and not driver, sadly as I love him as a driver and personality

[jade field]

But max wouldn’t have won without luck

[frail osprey]

Stop. Do not feed him.

[radiant eagle]

Luck? Sure, he was very lucky in Baku when he had that amazing puncture when he was leading the race

[frail osprey]

Here we go

[radiant eagle]

" Here we go " as if it's a lie lol

Yes, puncture didn't happen at all

[frail osprey]

Because you taling rubbish fella

[radiant eagle]

That SURELY would have not been another win

[frail osprey]

We've all seen it for over a week

[radiant eagle]

Oh so having a puncture is not being unlucky ?

Answer this, is having a puncute having luck?

[frail osprey]

You create bad luck in your own head

[radiant eagle]

It's a yes or no

[jade field]

If latifi didn’t crash and fia didn’t make such controversial decisions Hamilton would have won

[radiant eagle]

LMAO OH YES he created the puncture in his head

[half atlas]

if

[radiant eagle]

This guy has to be the lowest IQ individual I ever met

[half atlas]

So many ifs

[jade field]

Ifs aren’t that bad

Helps think of problems

[radiant eagle]

That was the very last race, but that last race wouldn't have mattered if Baku puncture, Silverstone assassination and Hungary Bottas didn't happen

[frail osprey]

Everything I'd Lewis' fault. Maybe if your driver could race wheel to wheel he would have won the championship 3 weeks earlier instead of Masi giving him a title that everyone will question.

That's all I'm saying.

[radiant eagle]

Max was unlucky throughout the year

[half atlas]

You do realise there more ifs that max would have won championship before abu dhabi

[radiant eagle]

The ONLY piece of luck Max had ALL SEASON, was in the last race

[radiant eagle]

Exactly this.

[frail osprey]

Everything I'd Lewis' fault. Maybe if your driver could race wheel to wheel he would have won the championship 3 weeks earlier instead of Masi giving him a title that everyone will question.

That's all I'm saying.

[radiant eagle]

Nobody will question it, only Hamilton D riders

[half atlas]

Eh well whatever now,seasons long gone now no point arguing

[jade field]

Max is way too aggressive as well

[frail osprey]

Everyone will question it 🤣

And they do

[radiant eagle]

No no, according to skinner, Max created the puncture in his own head

ahahahhahahahaahah

[opal galleon]

still talking

what the heck

[frail osprey]

Asterisk champion and it's not even his fault

[frail osprey]

What

[jade field]

Lol skinner never said that

[radiant eagle]

Asterisk championship? Oh you mean the 2008 one? Where Glock let Hamilton pass in the last lap to win?

[radiant eagle]

LMAOOO

[frail osprey]

Bro, if max yielded then he doesn't dnf, you know, like ham did in brazil...

[radiant eagle]

You don't need to say anything, Baku alone is enough to give Max the win

[jade field]

Max barely yields

He’s gonna crash a lot in his career

[frail osprey]

That's bad luck. As every driver gets 🤷‍♂️

[radiant eagle]

Well, if Hamilton decided to overtake Max like he did to Leclerc that same race, he could have won without almost killing another guy

Hamilton overtaking Leclerc --- gives lots of space and even goes more to the inside line to do it, Hamilton overtaking Max ----- goes out wide and sends him into the wall

[frail osprey]

Bro, this is a guy that crashed into a lapped car whilst he was in 2nd because he didn't like that he was driving too fast and retired himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[radiant eagle]

He was 1st

[jade field]

Lol

[radiant eagle]

See you don't even know factsd

You literally talk without knowledge

[jade field]

Ok so he just wasted first

[opal galleon]

yo boba again

[frail osprey]

Please someone explain this to me. How can the best driver of all time do this 🤣🤣

[jade field]

Lost al points

[radiant eagle]

Nobody ever said Max is the best ever though

Yet at least

[crude kiln]

Nah he was lucky in Russia as well in the end when the rain came so he finished 2nd. Otherwise I agree he deserved the luck in the last race and is a deserving champion. Think most agree he is.

[half atlas]

In the end he won,lucky or not

So 🤷‍♂️

[radiant eagle]

Oh true, Russia was also luck. Ok 2 times he had luck that season. Shall I mention the times Hamilton had luck this season? I got at least 6 or 7 points to make

[frail osprey]

Imagine Hamilton ramming a lapped Ocon off the track because Ocon wanted to make up pace. Wouldn't happened 🤣 Max is a psychopath racing against his own mind

[opal galleon]

Dont understand that people cant accept that max deserve the champinship the most, when it comes to paper either way + the unlucky he got. But Lewis deserved to win the last GP since he did better then.

[radiant eagle]

Skinner crying asfff

Ahahahahah

Imagine not winning every race while driving the best car ever

Max winning the title with a kart

basically

[jade field]

We aren’t saying he deserved it’s just that he doesn’t understand what luck is

I’d say he deserved but accept he got lucky

[opal galleon]

youre overreacting dude, a kart is more like haas xD

[jade field]

Lol

[crude kiln]

Yep Lewis and Merc were the best last race for sure and that SC really messed it up for them. Super unlucky.

[frail osprey]

Not sure we I would be crying. I hate lewis, I just hate max too. I didn't, but then clowns like you came along

[opal galleon]

RB a kart xD

thats new

[half atlas]

Lewis was more lucky than max but over the season i feel

[frail osprey]

Max deserved the WDC 100%

But

[opal galleon]

but

there is a but

[frail osprey]

It came down to the last race

[jade field]

Which Hamilton should’ve won

[frail osprey]

And lewis was better in that last race

[jade field]

Exactly

[radiant eagle]

Shhh don't speak facts

[opal galleon]

yeye Lewis got lucky in 08, max got lucky at last GP its even

[radiant eagle]

It wouldn't have come down to the last race if Hamilton was DSQ in Silverstone

Remove those 25 points off the guy

[frail osprey]

Nobody can deny max that title, I wont, I dont even think Merc and Ham do. It's just how it happened. It's bad for F1. Max had a great season

[crude kiln]

But the reason it came down to the last race was cuz of Max had bad luck earlier as well 😉

[jade field]

It was too controversial there was no right answer tbh

[radiant eagle]

Same for 2008, Glock letting Hamilton by so he won the title is just sad

[opal galleon]

All that is going to go away everybody gonna remember that max won

[radiant eagle]

Schumacher would also have 8 world titles if it wasn't for Jack Villeneuve robbery in Jerez 1997

Unlucky seasons for everyone

[opal galleon]

Its how the sport is xD

[frail osprey]

Boba, max should have got a DNF or a 30 sec penalty for break testing???? FIA were bending rules for the last 7 or so races to ensure of the last race 'finale' and they got it.

For both drivers btw

[jade field]

Tbf that’s true max brake tested him

[half atlas]

You do realise,that incident was race controls fault

[radiant eagle]

LMAOOOO brake testing

[half atlas]

They didnt communicate

[jade field]

But max stayed almost central

[radiant eagle]

Max let's Hamilton overtake him......Hamilton crashes into Verstappen, and Max gets DNF ? LOL

God I love how dumb British fans are

[frail osprey]

I agree, they messed up. Tell merc and then red bull but let's not talk rubbish, max got that message and slammed on the brakes like a spoilt child.

[radiant eagle]

" FKKK U FOR LETTING ME OVERTAKE U !

[opal galleon]

Thats actually FIAs fault, they didnt notify Mercedes first --> Lewis. Also it dont makes sense that youre P1 then suddently giving away that P1 for the guy that is P2 also its on DRS line.

[frail osprey]

And also weaved to the racing line as Lewis neared

[half atlas]

Max just slowed dowm@more cause he wasnt sure why lewis isnt going through lol

Amd lewis didnt know hes getting the place

[opal galleon]

Ye

[jade field]

The fia are too inconsistent

[frail osprey]

If you let a car pass you move to the side and dont brake in the middle of the road. Max knew what he was doing, we all know what max was doing. Lucky they both didn't dnf

[half atlas]

Yeah maybe see max left lewis enough space for a while there

🤷‍♂️

[frail osprey]

But when the FIA are so useless you can do whatever, hence both drivers getting away with stuff

[jade field]

I don’t even know if the fia watches the race

They just pick and choose what they feel like when they hear it

[frail osprey]

But then weaved to the left. Lewis didn't know what was going on but Max definitely slammed the brakes and shut that gap, the fia data from max's car showed that. It's usually a 30 second penalty at best but they let it slide for a final showdown.

[crude kiln]

Many of us have already discussed that like crazy and most seem to agree they both acted bad in that situation. So to only put it on Max is wrong imo.

[frail osprey]

Lewis didn't want the over take there because of drs

[jade field]

Hamilton didn’t really do anything wrong

[frail osprey]

But you do not slam the brakes on a straight to force the overtake

[opaque crest]

🙄🙄🙄

[frail osprey]

Never

Anyone that has ever raced will tell you max messed up there.

[crude kiln]

Watch the heli angle and you see HAM had all the room in the world to the left of Max for quite a while, but he didn't want to OT before DRS line and Max wanted him to pass before. So basically all experts have blamed them both.

[opaque crest]

300messages wasn't enough time for it to be over

[half atlas]

It wont be over

Untill new season anyway

[jade field]

Well it’s like all there reslly is now

Until something new comes

[frail osprey]

Then carry on and dont give the position, dont brake so much that your opponent has to avoid you on the straight. I'm happy to talk all day and night about why they both acted the way they did, but max brake tested on a straight in that race which is disgusting really

[half atlas]

Not for you,watch man united innit

[jade field]

Lol

COVID missed last two games

[crude kiln]

And Lewis refused to OT a slow car which is also disgusting and goes against everything that's being a racing driver 😅 BOTH acted bad there. Think most agree on that.

[frail osprey]

Lewis is smart he knew what max was doing so he didn't want to OT there (they need to fix that rules wise btw) but as I said, you do not brake on a straight. This isn't mondeos on their way to a shop to pick up some milk, they are F1 cars. They are very lucky it wasnt worse.

[jade field]

Everyone has just gone now lol

[jade field]

True

[frail osprey]

But that doesn't deny that Max slammed the brakes AND weaved to centre of the track when he knew the DRS zone was ending. It's like sweeling the legs of an attacking in football. Its foul play. Should have been a 30 second penalty at least

But because of final showdown lol it was 10 seconds lol so they found him guilty but didn't punish him enough to harm the last race

[crude kiln]

So Lewis was "smart" and Max breaking when they were going snail pace was "disgusting". OK, got it 😉 Bit too biased towards one direction for my taste when both were acting like idiots.

[frail osprey]

No they are both to blame, but one break tested the other just didn't want to pass at that time

Which is a joke in the rules in itself

[jade field]

Btw if ur English merry Christmas

[crude kiln]

And one got a penalty. Done and dusted then innit?

[opal galleon]

SUP what have I missed

[frail osprey]

But not the penalty it should have been

[jade field]

Not much there on max brake testing now

[frail osprey]

It's more of the point of FIA dictating to the last race than max to be honest

They were terrible this season

[opal galleon]

ah, FIA sucks done discussion. Lewis and Max battle 😄

[jade field]

If u are English merry Christmas

[crude kiln]

Disagree. Lewis doing what he did as well didn't warrant 30s "at least" for that.

[crude kiln]

Yeah I must sleep soon 😅

[opal galleon]

Yeah go sleep

[jade field]

Lol

[frail osprey]

But Lewis didn't brake test another car

[radiant eagle]

All Heil GOAT Schumacher

[opal galleon]

uh

ok

[jade field]

lol

[radiant eagle]

You right, Hamilton only almost killed another fellow driver

[crude kiln]

Sus

[half atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspect-among-us-gif-18663592

[jade field]

Ffs how are we back here again

[radiant eagle]

Between brake testing and sending someone against a wall at 300 kmh

I prefer the brake test

[opal galleon]

260km*

[jade field]

Lol

[half atlas]

Just say 50g

[opal galleon]

nooo way it was 300km xD

[jade field]

Insane difference

[radiant eagle]

That supposed to make it better?

[crude kiln]

Depends on the speed and situation

[opal galleon]

thats overreacting

[opal galleon]

Nah I was just pointing out stuff xD. Yeah 51g offf its not good

[radiant eagle]

Oh no Hamilton broke the toenail of his front wing

[jade field]

Lol

[opaque crest]

Merry Christmas! What a wonderful gift to have on Christmas Day! 😂

[buoyant rain]

Max shoulda backed out in silverstone he was behind entering the corner… jus saying

[half atlas]

was behind

[jade field]

Bro what

My message got fully deleted

[radiant eagle]

Leclerc was also behind and he didn't get punted across the track when Hamilton overtakook him

[opal galleon]

I have talked to boba about this before. It would be good if Max knows how to back off. But Max was in the positon to not back off in Silverstone.

[crude kiln]

Yeah yeah drop this now shall we?😆

[jade field]

Bro it’s 5 past 12 in the morning I’m going bye

[opaque crest]

No carry on, it's super entertaining 🤪😂

[jade field]

Too late/early

[opaque crest]

Have a good Christmas!

[jade field]

U too bye

[buoyant rain]

His car was more over look at the tape. He gave lewis more space

[crude kiln]

Yeah for sure he would have if he'd known how it would end. But these drivers are racers. Both of them.

[frail osprey]

One is usually black flagged and sadly, it isn't the one you prefer.

[radiant eagle]

LOL What? No he didn't, there are images of it, Max gave more space than Leclerc did, and yet Hamilton aproached differently

[opal galleon]

I like how these dudes has been arguing in 2 days xd

[buoyant rain]

Send the images then @radiant eagle

[opal galleon]

go drink and sleep

[radiant eagle]

Ok

[jade field]

Actually I might stay reading this

It’s quite interesting watching people fight about nothing that can change anymore

[opaque crest]

Proper festive spirit

[radiant eagle]

Lmaooo

[frail osprey]

@radiant eagle get him bro. Dont take this injustice

[opal galleon]

"oh and they typing" "martin they are", "skinner dive in the inside" "dias giving him 51g MARTIN"

[opaque crest]

Wow, you have images to hand that quick 🤦🏼‍♂️

[radiant eagle]

Well Max never sent someone at 51G against a wall before

[jade field]

Lol

[half atlas]

Not his first time probs doing this

[crude kiln]

At least now people are discussing and not calling each other names etc. So all fine then imo. Easier to take everyone seriously then.

[opal galleon]

lol

[jade field]

Yeah

[radiant eagle]

True actually, not my first time showing facts to blind Hamiltonsexuals

[opal galleon]

dude came prepared second day arguing xD

[half atlas]

Aged well

[jade field]

What was that about names

[opaque crest]

Spoke to soon about the name calling 😂

[frail osprey]

Dias reminds me of the guys that say Pacquiao threw more punches than Mayweather

[radiant eagle]

Wait you guys consider Hamiltonsexuals a name ?

People soft nowadays

[opal galleon]

wowow

[radiant eagle]

Must be the new liberals

[opaque crest]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[crude kiln]

@half atlas @jade field @opaque crest Yeah I was a bit too optimistic there 😂

[jade field]

Lol

[opal galleon]

content

[radiant eagle]

Now I get why so many people love Vettel and Hamilton, must be the helmets they show everytime they're getting massively paid to race in middle east

[frail osprey]

Max has just been ramming people off the track for 7 years 🤷‍♂️

[radiant eagle]

Show me one time he threw someone off the track at 51G

[half atlas]

Fr tho how can you not love vettel

[opaque crest]

Yeah standing up for human rights is a terrible thing to do

[jade field]

This has been a solid 45 minute argument not bad

[radiant eagle]

Max makes agressive moves in slow corners, Hamilton chooses the one corner that could kill his fellow driver to pull that move

[jade field]

True

[opal galleon]

2 day for me* youre behind mate

[jade field]

Lol

I gotta catch up

[radiant eagle]

Yes because putting up a pink helmet is gonna make the idiots who abuse human rights be like " Oh my god, I used to be a f***kin idiot, but now I'll be a good human being! thanks pink helmet and vettel "

[opal galleon]

yeah you missed like 500msg

[frail osprey]

What? Max late brakes 50 times a race. Wheel to wheel he isn't even as good as half the grid imo. Perez is better wheel to wheel.

[buoyant rain]

Ur high

[jade field]

Right I’ll be back like 5 minutes

[radiant eagle]

Ahahahahahah this guy really said he idn't as good as HALF THE GRID on wheel to wheel ahahahahah

[radiant eagle]

ahjahahahahhahaha

Skinner is the typical british blind fan who thinks Hamilton will shag him if he says lunatic stuff

[frail osprey]

I'm exaggerating to annoy dias but is max great wheel to wheel? I dont think hes top 2 put it that way

Guy is just quick

[radiant eagle]

Yes Max is great wheel to wheel, best in the grid right now

[frail osprey]

Rubbish

[radiant eagle]

You can disagree, but there is a reason why Hamilton wanted to kill him in Silverstone, Hamilton didn't have to have to 1v1 him

[opaque crest]

Perez has had fairer and harder battles with Hamilton this season

[crude kiln]

Nothing wrong with late breaking if you make it work. Danny Ric is one of the most popular drivers thanks to that. And Dias actually has a point it's better Max is so aggressive in those slower situations.

[frail osprey]

A food wheel to wheel driver races between the lines and dont force people or himself off

[buoyant rain]

😂that’s a great way to get under the skins of max fans but even lewis fans hav to admit that max raw driving is right under lewis if not better.

[radiant eagle]

True, most the time Max was cruising in 1st place, he led the most laps this season lol

[frail osprey]

Imagine max in a merc that is less mobile, guy would wall it 8 times a season 😂

[opaque crest]

No driver wants to kill another, please don't be daft like that

[radiant eagle]

Ahahahahahahah this guy trying to make it look like Mercedes isn't the best car by a mile on the grid

[half atlas]

Same goes for ham in a rb

[radiant eagle]

Hamiltonsexuals are so funny, especially the british ones

[jade field]

Ok I might be wrong that gives partially racist vibes

[radiant eagle]

Hamilton would lose his mind being in a RB that goes less 20kmh on the straights than Mercedes

[frail osprey]

We had this discussion 3 hours ago get a new slogan

[radiant eagle]

Max making up on the corners for what he loses on the straights to Mercedes

[frail osprey]

I joke about max but seriously guys, wheel to wheel racing who's the best? I mean you have alonso and Vet is good

[radiant eagle]

Mercedes world champion, Max world Champions, best car and best driver both won their titles

Easy

ALONSO AND VETTEL OVER MAX AHAHAHAHAHAH

This guy has to be the lowest IQ individual ever

[frail osprey]

Have you learned what an opinion is yet?

[opal galleon]

Idk if I gained some braincells or lost after 2days of reading. I think I got some braincells back.

[radiant eagle]

No sorry, I only know facts

[jade field]

Lol

[radiant eagle]

You're welcome for the gained ones, @opal galleon