🏎│real-f1-chat

[velvet robin]

Agreed but such a shame to see the season end like this…

[opaque crest]

I think the same, I don't see it being overturned.

[opal galleon]

I cant see how the crowned can be overturned

[velvet robin]

It might not, a shame that Verstappens first title will have an asterisk around it forever

[clear sand]

Max finished with a great move. Lewis made a miracle with his tyres. Making em last so long. The only shame for me is latifi crashing for the 15th place...

[velvet robin]

The shame is max starting right behind him on last lap due to FIAs brand new rule

That they made during the safety car

[heady sonnet]

Schumacher also has an asterisk on one of his titles but … he’s still one of the greatest, if not the greatest

[jaunty cave]

And lots of crying babies aswell but go look to The history...

[velvet robin]

Schumacher ended up having 7, max will have multiple in his career

But his maiden title forever will have that asterisk

[jaunty cave]

Exactly

[heady sonnet]

Wasn’t it Schumi’s first one also?

[velvet robin]

No idea

[heady sonnet]

Or was it the second one

[opaque crest]

Max is a great driver, it's just a shame his 1st title will have this hung over it

[jaunty cave]

Yea but only when hams fans will talk and cry about it.

[clear sand]

Yeah but think from their point la the last race to determine whos gonna be the WC. With a huge season and mega hype and marketing content...ending behind a SC....? I understand what they did and tbh for me, its in the rules.

[velvet robin]

I wasn’t a F1 fan then, what happened in the race

[velvet robin]

I’ve told u I didn’t care who won until Lewis was robbed

[heady sonnet]

He simply crashed into Hill

[jaunty cave]

Sure you Don't

[velvet robin]

If they didn’t want it to end they should have not started having cars pass safety car

[heady sonnet]

Not on purpose of course 😂

[jaunty cave]

Of course

[heady sonnet]

He’s my favorite all time, but it’s still a bit “dubious” 🙂

[tender shell]

Mercedes have taken a barrister into the meeting over the rules 😮

[velvet robin]

FIA broke the rule 48.12, and it’s even more bizarre how it was only the 5 cars between Hamilton and max. Almost as if FIA and masi wanted max to be right there to overtake

[velvet robin]

Barrister?

[jaunty cave]

Do you drowning or not yet?

[velvet robin]

https://tenor.com/view/speak-english-pulp-fiction-do-you-speak-it-gif-16440534

[jaunty cave]

Yea exactly fia.

[tender shell]

Yes a person who knows about laws and rules and stuff

[heady sonnet]

Lol

[velvet robin]

I’m assuming it’s behind closed doors?

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora he is not stoping please do your job.

[velvet robin]

I’ve done nothing wrong, and wasn’t told to not do anything.

[heady sonnet]

Mercedes surely know quite a bit about bending and twisting rules, so why even need a lawyer in there?

[velvet robin]

And it’s stopping, just to help.

[jaunty cave]

Sure you didnt

[velvet robin]

Cause it’s the FIA breaking a very explicit rule, not someone finding grey area of a rule

That’s why they have a lawyer with them

[jaunty cave]

Rear wing

[tender shell]

Yes you can’t change a rule during a race that puts you at a disadvantage and give others an advantage 😬

[heady sonnet]

Lol

[velvet robin]

The discussion isn’t held live right? Has to be behind closed doors

[heady sonnet]

Yes. Reminds me of that 20 car lengths rule

[velvet robin]

And by the way where u getting the update I wanna follow along

[opal galleon]

i cant see something huge happening expect for Masi losing his job

[heady sonnet]

What was that about not changing it mid race?

[velvet robin]

Masi deserves to lose his job

[jaunty cave]

Finally

[opaque crest]

The one that Masi explained on the radio saying it wasn't that situation so didn't apply lol

[jaunty cave]

Same asi Hamilton deserve to lose this title

[heady sonnet]

Yea. Because it’s not a formation lap? Please 😂

[tender shell]

Whatever happens #taintedtitle 😂

[heady sonnet]

We can summarize quite fast

[opaque crest]

What I find funny in here is people using the rules when they suit them and completely ignoring them when they don't. It's like the FIA are all typing in here 🤣

[jaunty cave]

Just read that I mercedes take it further then won't have an outcome until Jan

[heady sonnet]

Can we just summarize that FIA is inconsistent and has influenced on more than one occasion in BOTH ways?

[jaunty cave]

Is that not the case in every sport. Like football. Its a penalty. The reverse happens....its not a penalty

[tender shell]

You can’t say you can’t unlap and then change it to they can unlap ! Teams base their strategy’s around what the FIA say over the radio

[opaque crest]

Yup, inconsistent, can't follow their own rules and has screwed this championship so whichever way it went would be tainted

[opal galleon]

Masi should be gone, I havent see so much caos from a Automotive Org

[flint burrow]

Exactly,clown masi is such a joke as race director!

[jaunty cave]

They are talking about this race they dont wanna hear that

[opaque crest]

Yeah but when a rule states ALL cars and then you change it to "these specific cars" that's not even open for interpretation 😂

[heady sonnet]

Hm, how was it at Imola

Were all allowed or just specific ones? Like ham

[jaunty cave]

I agree. But was more referencing the point about people using an arguement then denying it if reversed

[flint burrow]

I honestly can't see why they restarted a race for 1 lap

what was the point lmao?

[heady sonnet]

What was the point of restarting a race for 2 laps then? Hmmm

Cough Baku

[opaque crest]

I genuinely don't remember what happened there with the safety car, I'll go back and look

[flint burrow]

excatly like clown masi don't know what hes doing

[jaunty cave]

Not finishing under sc clearly. Like every other race.

[heady sonnet]

I’m sure I’ve seen a message that specific cars can unlap themselves

[heady sonnet]

Before now I mean

[jaunty cave]

This one... Be carefull they dont care

[opaque crest]

That's the same from today 🤣

[heady sonnet]

100% sure I’ve seen it before

[jaunty cave]

Ou ok.

[opaque crest]

We're talking about it happening at other races

[jaunty cave]

I did to but they dont care.

[flint burrow]

yeah but why were they allowed to unlap just after mercedes told lewis to stay out, kinda strange

[heady sonnet]

You realize that the radio is not live right?

[jaunty cave]

It wasnt like that dont make stuffs up.

[flint burrow]

ohhh

[heady sonnet]

Not like FIA listening to Ham radio “oh he’s not going inc let’s do this”

[flint burrow]

I am sorry i am new to f1

[opaque crest]

I care, what race and when? If its happened before it sets a precedent for them doing it today

[heady sonnet]

I’ll check

[jaunty cave]

I really dont know but it did multiple time.

[flint burrow]

But we all can't deny that at some point of the race we saw Lewis winning the championship.

[frail osprey]

Lewis owned Max today, was such a great drive from LH.

[flint burrow]

True, i thought he would be the champion for sure.

[jaunty cave]

Agree, but 1st lap.

[flint burrow]

But then massi changed everything and made it way more thrilling than it already was.

[flint burrow]

Ya talking bout max pushing Lewis?

[jaunty cave]

Pushing? He was ahead him he was choosing racing line.....

[flint burrow]

well he was only ahead because of his wayyy too late braking

there was almost no room for him but lh knew he was capable of doing so

[jaunty cave]

Like every overtake is made.

[flint burrow]

Well, nope.

[jaunty cave]

By breaking later

[heady sonnet]

And that’s wrong why? Have you seen Ricciardo overtakes ?

[tacit acorn]

Wake n bake Doobie Time

[flint burrow]

I saw but ricciardo didnt push his rivals off the track...

[velvet robin]

Today is the same as Brazil.

[flint burrow]

But lewis gained 1 second by cutting the corner

[velvet robin]

That’s why there was nothing

[flint burrow]

that's not so fair either

[jaunty cave]

Finally

[velvet robin]

Ok so Brazil. There was precedent for the stewards decision today

[clear sand]

In any way, race director can override rules if needed. Cf rule 48.12

[heady sonnet]

Still confused about two things that you are letting slide

[flint burrow]

which are....?

[heady sonnet]

1. why all the whine about Brazil and the lack of penalty and now conveniently being ignored this time and no asking for a penalty

[opal galleon]

I say it again, nothing gonna happen expect Masi Fired

[lapis tartan]

Bro it’s very simple, max won, they aren’t going to penalize max for doing something the FIA allowed him to do

[heady sonnet]

And 2) the “that’s some dangerous driving” and subsequent whine to FIA over radio about Checo defense

That for you is not trying to influence decisions?

[velvet robin]

They’re not going to penalize max directly, but they very well might switch the outcome. This will probably go further than the FIA

[clear sand]

Teams are like this. Whining to get something giving em advantage

[jaunty cave]

It was hard and beatifull defence The best i saw this seasom

[flint burrow]

Well he really slowed lewis in sector 3 almost stopped the car honestly

[velvet robin]

Into the court of arbitration for sport

[velvet robin]

It was really really slow

Max gained 5s one lap

[heady sonnet]

And that’s against the rules?

[flint burrow]

True

[heady sonnet]

What about Bottas last race?

[velvet robin]

If bottas wasn’t then it isn’t lol

[jaunty cave]

Really read other rules then 48.8 and 12 :))))

[heady sonnet]

Exactly

[flint burrow]

except bottas did that under sc not under normal race conditions

[velvet robin]

I’m assuming you mean send other rules

[heady sonnet]

So? Doesn’t make it better when he got a hard defense

[velvet robin]

And there’s no reason to send other rules, as Mercedes are protesting due to articles 48.8 and 48.12

Soooooo I don’t know what you want

[heady sonnet]

He pushed Checo out in turkey also

[lapis tartan]

The problem is even if this situation never happened Hamilton could’ve technically still crashed in the safety car period

[heady sonnet]

But again that’s fine

Cause it’s Ham

[velvet robin]

That’s an argument that just sounds silly

[flint burrow]

Bro, that wasnt a defence in S3 it was almost stopping on track XD

[heady sonnet]

It’s a fully viable defense. He overtook him after that even

[velvet robin]

Merc will have to argue that if they let all the cars through as they should have, the race would have ended under safety car

[flint burrow]

I think that's why lewis said its dangerous driving

[heady sonnet]

Bottas wouldn’t have done the same?

Be real 🙂

[flint burrow]

He wouldnt

[heady sonnet]

LOL

[flint burrow]

because bottas can't defend

[heady sonnet]

You actually believe that?

[flint burrow]

Yeah?

[heady sonnet]

Everyone would do it

[flint burrow]

Checo did amazing in S1 and S2 but that S3 was really dangerous for em both

[heady sonnet]

Heck even Alonso did it a while ago

[jaunty cave]

Again The radio was earlier than this happend

[flint burrow]

No

[opaque crest]

I disagree, think Checo's defense was true tough but fair racing

[velvet robin]

Checo did nothing wrong I agree

[flint burrow]

It was literally a lap after

[jaunty cave]

Whatever buddy you are bais like gavitron

[opaque crest]

Didn't like Lewis moaning about it bit other drivers would have done as well

[heady sonnet]

Then why the immediate message to FIA radio?

[flint burrow]

I am not saying he did, but he really slowed him down in s3 and that's why lewis said its dangerous

[opaque crest]

Gavitron just agreed Checo did nothing wrong 😂

[flint burrow]

especially last 4 turns where he didnt step on throttle

[jaunty cave]

I mean overall

[velvet robin]

All I’ve done

Is read the rule book

And said checo good

[opaque crest]

Same situation. Max forced Lewis off track therefore no penalty

[jaunty cave]

Only sections you want.

[velvet robin]

Brazil was precedent for the turn 1 incident.

[velvet robin]

Bro the rules I’ve said are the ones Mercedes are protesting about

None of the other rules matter rn besides those two

[jaunty cave]

but you should read some other to see what outcome can happen

[velvet robin]

If anyone’s biased it’s you my guy

[opaque crest]

Lewis should probably have given place back but they didn't do anything in Brazil so they can't really do anything here

[velvet robin]

Why would I read another section of the rules that wouldn’t mention what Mercedes is going at

If you know any Rules I’m missing on please send them.

[velvet robin]

Exactly.

[jaunty cave]

Its covering possible outcome of their appeal.

[velvet robin]

First thing I said was Lewis will have to give position. Then when they said no I was like ah Brazil

[velvet robin]

You’re not making any sense

[jaunty cave]

Maybe its your lack of understanding or wanting to understand.

[opal galleon]

still talking?

[velvet robin]

I’ve asked you to send rules/evidence supporting what you’re saying and you haven’t. All I’m seeing right now is severe bias for max. Maybe your discord name is a clue lol

[jaunty cave]

🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 😂 😂 why would i do that you will not care cuz its not that you need.

[velvet robin]

I’m clearly caring by asking you.

[jaunty cave]

Sure... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[flint burrow]

@jaunty cave biased max fan.

[velvet robin]

Riddle me this, what other rules would mess with Mercedes appeal besides the 2 rules they’re appealing. Should I go read rules on the pit lane? VSC rules for an incident under a full safety car? What rules you want to elaborate on

[jaunty cave]

Maybe if you read msgs i wrote you wouldnt be saying that.

[opal galleon]

https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/110

[flint burrow]

I reed em and i can clearly say you're biased.

[jaunty cave]

Not mess, i said you will find possible outcome..

pensive

[jaunty cave]

Than you are lying :)

[velvet robin]

What possible outcome will I find outside of the 2 rules that MERCEDES is protesting

[jaunty cave]

hes a max fan what u expect

[velvet robin]

Then*

[jaunty cave]

ignore him

[velvet robin]

He got muted earlier and went straight to my DMs lmao

[jaunty cave]

HAHAHA

i got muted

[velvet robin]

I saw that lol

[jaunty cave]

and someone tried to defend for me

but i dm

[jaunty cave]

Dont do it... You are on edge, to be toxic.

the person

[jaunty cave]

do what?

[velvet robin]

What have I done that’s toxic

[opal galleon]

https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/110

[velvet robin]

I’m trying to help you with your English.

[jaunty cave]

correcting his words?!!

wow

so if he corrects ur words his in the weong

wrong

[velvet robin]

Can learn a lot from a native speaker

[jaunty cave]

😩

[velvet robin]

What u want us to do with this

[opal galleon]

its the rule xD if people keep argue

[velvet robin]

We’ve been over 48.8 and 48.12, and max fan won’t tell me another rule to look at

Which nobody else will look at either cause merc challenged 48.8 and 48.12 lmfao

[heady sonnet]

Food for thought

[opaque crest]

Does this relate to only certain cars being allowed to unlap themselves?

[jaunty cave]

Its harrasing

[sonic plank]

fia broke their own rule. how poetic

[heady sonnet]

Yes, explanation about why only certain ones are allowed. Searching for the actual message there

[velvet robin]

Which is against rules, and Hamilton had to pass the backmarkers before safety car, so super super unfair

[formal kelp]

Schumacher kept Lewis from breaking his dad's record LELELELELELEL

[velvet robin]

It really was gio and Latifi but go on

[jaunty cave]

@velvet robin read this.

[velvet robin]

Gio not even that bad

[sonic plank]

dirty like his father 😄 he pushed latifi wide

[opal galleon]

Lewis got 2 more years

Relax boiiss

[velvet robin]

I read it lol, doesn’t change the all or none in rule 48.12

[formal kelp]

Schumacher threw latifi wide and cause the spin GO ON

GO ON

[velvet robin]

He didn’t though

[jaunty cave]

Kinda dnes but its not going to your way.

[velvet robin]

My way?

[heady sonnet]

The rules for red flag unlap ping and safety car one are exactly the same 😂

[jaunty cave]

Yeap

[velvet robin]

Lapping under safety car is all or none

[heady sonnet]

And under red flag it’s all or none?

[jaunty cave]

Dude read it.

[velvet robin]

Did you not read 48.12

We didn’t have a red flag so your point?

[formal kelp]

Doesn't race director have authority to bypass these rules to protect integrity of a race, so isn't all of this moot

[velvet robin]

48.12 is reserved to the safety car

[velvet robin]

Masi doesn’t have authority to do what he did

[jaunty cave]

I did but like u surely know fia can add rules throught the year as you can see.

[sonic plank]

if wanting max to win the WDC is to protect the integrity of a race then you are having a laugh

[jaunty cave]

He has :)

[sonic plank]

masi fully knew max was on 2 lap old softs while lewis 40 lap old hards

[velvet robin]

He doesn’t though, cause he violated a rule and is going to be appealed

[velvet robin]

Precisely

[formal kelp]

Lol appeals the season is over have fun

[jaunty cave]

He is race director you know what that means right?

[jaunty cave]

Yea :)

[velvet robin]

It’s going to go to the court of arbitration’s for sport lmao

[sonic plank]

he knew what was going to happen if he bring in the SC AND LET ONLY the cars between ham and max to pass them BUT NOT the lapped cars behind MAX. ITS SOOOOOO OBVIOUS WHAT HAS HAPPENED

[jaunty cave]

Sure...

[velvet robin]

It’s very obvious

[opaque crest]

Just because you're race director doesn't mean you can change the rules as and when you like

[sonic plank]

if merc get rejected now with their appeal. ITS 100% going to court and it SHOULD

[velvet robin]

Such a Shame cause max is so talented, for him to be handed the WDC

[jaunty cave]

Just read it kids.

[velvet robin]

Fully agree. This isn’t about the result, it’s about the integrity of F1

[sonic plank]

except for safety reasons. you could argue masi wanted max to SAFELY win the wdc

[opaque crest]

Especially if the teams are basing strategy on the rules in the book

[velvet robin]

Have you read the actual rule book I’ve posted

[jaunty cave]

They didnt do it today :)

[velvet robin]

Oh it’s so obvious

I can’t believe how biased you are @jaunty cave

[sonic plank]

im a vettel fan but what happened today was plain ROBBERY

[opaque crest]

Merc didn't stop as they were basing strategy on race finishing behind SC

[formal kelp]

https://www.fia.com/international-court-appeal

Why not do some reading instead of just making stuff up. It's not

[velvet robin]

I didn’t care who won today, but I now care cause of that robbery

[jaunty cave]

This is rules aswell can you take it

[velvet robin]

Yes it’ll go past the FIA as I said

[jaunty cave]

Strategic mistake.

[formal kelp]

Yes it won't, you're making things up and are clueless

[sonic plank]

to be fair merc should have stopped in VSC or SC. if Masi gets fired then James Vowles should be the next one to GO

[velvet robin]

I’m clueless…

[sonic plank]

https://tenor.com/view/claude-aftv-its-time-to-go-mic-interview-gif-15915866

[velvet robin]

It was close with VSC

[sonic plank]

he would have been ahead of max slightly imo

[velvet robin]

It’s a close call though fr

[jaunty cave]

He is unfortunatelly

[sonic plank]

the only reason id support lewis over max as a vettel fan is because of his dirty driving

[velvet robin]

I hear ya

[jaunty cave]

He want to see only what comes handy to him

[velvet robin]

I made up rules 48.8 and 48.12 lmao

Y’all are so biased get outta here

[sonic plank]

If it was done to vettel id absolutely would do everything i can as a team. Use daddy strolls cash to get rid of that FIA

[jaunty cave]

Dirty driving says Vettel fan 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂

[opaque crest]

The fact we're still talking about it shows what a controversial decision it was

[sonic plank]

he had his moments, but nothing can compare to dirty max

[jaunty cave]

Are you sure?

[sonic plank]

its not really controversial, it was robbery. FIA BROKE their OWN rule

[jaunty cave]

https://youtu.be/iOI2It_W3No

[sonic plank]

any bias aside, FIA and especially MASI were an absolute disgrace this year

[velvet robin]

Not even worth my time talking to the biased fans, whoever ends up with the title will forever have an asterisk on it.

[opaque crest]

Vettel has 30penalty points since 2014, Max has 25

[jaunty cave]

Such as you?

[velvet robin]

I’ve provided clear cut evidence through the rule book. You’ve said nothing

[opaque crest]

Lewis has 17

[sonic plank]

based on today lewis absolutely deserves it, and he doesnt deserve to have that said asterix on him when he did brilliantly

[velvet robin]

I agree, but all of the Netherlands will call it an asterisk

[jaunty cave]

So as we. But you choose to ignore them

[velvet robin]

WHERE

you haven’t

[heady sonnet]

30???

It’s 21 actually

[jaunty cave]

@velvet robin for The 4th time

[crude kiln]

Asterisk. Last time I heard that word was when other fans were salty that Liverpool won the league 😅

[sonic plank]

as a max fan whatever comes out of your mouth and keyboard can be safely disregarded, as its plain and obvious what happened today.

the good term is daylight robbery

in front of the whole world

[velvet robin]

I read it @jaunty cave doesn’t change the all or none rule of 48.12

[opaque crest]

https://f1statblog.co.uk/f1-penalty-points/

This says 30 but if you've got other info happy to see it

[jaunty cave]

Same as ham fan dont play superior ober me thx.

[velvet robin]

And there’s no source to that post

[jaunty cave]

It does. But for obvious reason you wont see that.

[velvet robin]

Why does it

Please explain

48.12 explicitly states if drivers are let through they all are let through.

Not 5 of the 15 drivers, who happened to all be between Hamilton and Verstappen

[jaunty cave]

Just read it slow and carefully.

[velvet robin]

If you don’t think you’re biased you need to look at yourself in the mirror, splash some water on your face, and remove that clown makeup

[crude kiln]

A better word is karma. To me it would had been worse if Merc had won the championship considering all sh** they've done this season 😅

[velvet robin]

You’re telling the English speaker to read it slow and carefully. Funny

I’ve read it 4 times and it doesn’t change 48.12

[jaunty cave]

Yea cuz you clearly dont understant what it says.

[sonic plank]

another max fan. max is dirty and never gives an inch. if he had a brain he would have scored 18 points minimum in silverstone and we wouldnt have anything to talk about today

[velvet robin]

Where is that even from. It’s not from a rule book

[heady sonnet]

So now ham fans feel what it has been

[velvet robin]

Source onyx

[jaunty cave]

Lol really... It was max's fault that ham missed apex?

[velvet robin]

Brazil was precedent for that moment. Doesn’t matter

[jaunty cave]

Its from fia official website.

[sonic plank]

its his fault that he didnt use his brain to relent as he should have since he was on the outside

[jaunty cave]

Not talking about brazil kitten

[exotic wigeon]

Fixed

[jaunty cave]

He was on racing line

[exotic wigeon]

Obviously fixed

[crude kiln]

Wouldn't call myself a Max fan but more than a Lewis fan at least. Merc has lost all my respect this season. And yeah cuz all drivers except Max would've backed off while being ahead into a corner in Silverstone cuz they aren't racers, and psychic. Unlike Max.

[sonic plank]

racing line doesnt matter really if someone is side by side with you on the inside

inside has the advantage then, and the corner

[velvet robin]

Send link

[velvet robin]

You were talking about turn 1. Turn 1 needed no investigation cause of Brazil

[velvet robin]

and it’s not from the rule book. So why does it matter. Please tell me in English why it’s important

[slow yew]

Why did checo dnf tho?

Anyone knows?

[exotic wigeon]

It’s looking more like an overturn. Lewis world champion announcement incoming

[velvet robin]

Probably Red Bull just saying we only care bout max rn

[jaunty cave]

Link is few msg above that picture

[jaunty cave]

https://youtu.be/4ikWhv-1w5E

[velvet robin]

Send the link. If youre talking about the one to the official FIA website I don’t know wat u want me to find

[velvet robin]

What updates u seeing rn

[jaunty cave]

You have The link there... What us wrong with you.

[sonic plank]

its called cars with full tank of fuel and not up to temperature tyres: UNDERSTEER

[velvet robin]

Send it

[sonic plank]

probably the first time you heard of it

[velvet robin]

And it’s is

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora he is keep harrasing me.

[velvet robin]

@jaunty cave please talk to me when you’re unbiased

[exotic wigeon]

Horner doesn’t look happy coming out of stewards meeting

[velvet robin]

Lmao im harassing you. We’re having a full conversation about the incident

No harassing at all

[jaunty cave]

You have it above...

[velvet robin]

Wait stewards meeting is over

[velvet robin]

I want to make sure I have the correct link u wanna send

[jaunty cave]

Like you?

[jaunty cave]

You harrasing me about my English that against rules...

[velvet robin]

I’ve already said

[velvet robin]

I’m not harassing I’m just correcting u cause I want to help you learn english

If that’s harassment me saying hello to a woman is harassment

[jaunty cave]

We can clearly see how not BIS you are when you are ignoring facto which doesnt suits you.

[jaunty cave]

Speak in my language will see how good you are gonna be....

[velvet robin]

Harassing

[velvet robin]

You haven’t shown me de facto

[opaque crest]

Guys give it a rest

[velvet robin]

I’ve shown you a rule book

You haven’t told me what you’ve shown me

[opaque crest]

The rules are rules, neither of you are harassing the other

[velvet robin]

I don’t know why I even bother with some people.

[opaque crest]

There's no point, the rules are there for whoever wants to look at them and read them

FIA clearly broke their own rules so we just have to wait and see what happens

[jaunty cave]

We did. Multiple times.

[jaunty cave]

He does... And i will make sure he is gonna be punished i am not gonna let someone insults me. Never

[mystic aurora]

Both of you have access to the mute function. If you're unable to govern yourselves, this can be handled in a different manner.

[jaunty cave]

Pleae do it now.

[sonic plank]

it will go to CAS. FIA will not admit they fked up BADLY

[velvet robin]

He’s saying you can block me goofy

[velvet robin]

100%

[sonic plank]

if they didnt admit brazil they wont admit it now

[velvet robin]

Oh 1000%

This is even worse than Brazil

[copper coral]

why did checo dnf?

[opaque crest]

Oil and water leak supposedly

[jaunty cave]

And again @mystic aurora

[formal kelp]

F1 and FIA don't recognize the CAS it's literally not an option

[opaque crest]

Or rumours are RB didn't fuel him long enough so he could fight Hamilton 😂

[velvet robin]

If you read what he said he’s saying you can block me and no have to see my messages.

[copper coral]

oh ok

[velvet robin]

I’ve done nothing wrong and he’s not gonna mute me for you complaining about losing an argument

[jaunty cave]

I can, not must.

[velvet robin]

Then he’s saying to suck it up and quit complaining to him if you don’t wanna block me

[velvet robin]

Lol

[jaunty cave]

I didnt lose anything when you choosing what to see...

[velvet robin]

Supposedly lol

[jaunty cave]

No he didnt...

[velvet robin]

48.8 and 48.12. End of story. That’s what every person is looking at. If you think there’s other rules then go for it

He did and that’s fine. Not gonna continue with you. Not worth my time talking to a wall who doesn’t read evidence

[jaunty cave]

Sure buddy. Whatever you say.

[jaunty cave]

Why are you talking about yourself in 3th person?

[velvet robin]

Anyone have live updates about the meeting with stewards? All I know is they went back after a break

[jaunty cave]

We presented you facts we send you link we made screen shot and it still not good enought

[coarse shoal]

hello

[jaunty cave]

🤚

[velvet robin]

Anyone know where this goes if current meetings with stewards rules in RBs favor? How many times up can you go

[formal kelp]

FIA court of appeal is the final place it can go, F1/FIA don't recognize the court of arbitration for sport. It can't go there

[heady sonnet]

But they want it to go there

[jaunty cave]

He doesnt care its not good for him.

[flint burrow]

Lmao you guys still argue?

In my opinion lewis got the title the fact that lapped cars can unlap them and max didnt lap them is just really controversial and shouldnt have a place.

[jaunty cave]

But why punish Verstappen for that? He did nothing wrong.

[flint burrow]

What did i say about punishing i am just saying it was really unfair for Lewis.

[jaunty cave]

I didnt say you did but Gavirton and other like him did.

[flint burrow]

Well yk max is really dangerous driver and he didnt deserve the tittle i know why they are frustrated

Lewis just got robbed

[jaunty cave]

Like ham isnt, pleaeeee

[heady sonnet]

Lol come on folks, have you watched the season?

[flint burrow]

And i am not even his fanboy

[formal kelp]

More rigged than pro wrestling LELELELELELEL

[flint burrow]

Bro ham literally gave up the position many times

While max never gave up causing them both to crash

Like monza

[jaunty cave]

Sure like today like in Silverstone please......

[flint burrow]

The only time ham did some serious mistake was silverstone

[flint burrow]

Monza, saudi arabia, brazil

[heady sonnet]

So funny how many double standards there are

[flint burrow]

It speaks for itself

[heady sonnet]

Hungary, Silverstone

[jaunty cave]

Its even on dirty play..

[formal kelp]

You all seem to argue with emotions and not logic, I thought Europeans were supposed to be smart

[exotic wigeon]

It’s not a punishment. I have a billion dollars in my bank account tomorrow. I realize it’s a mistake the next day/have to give it back. Punishment?

[flint burrow]

what

[jaunty cave]

But Hamilton wins on liters of tears

[flint burrow]

Alright just hear me out today Hamilton was the winner no one can argue

It just doesnt make sense

[heady sonnet]

The winner is pretty clear

F1.com

Usually quite reliable btw

[flint burrow]

That lapped cars can unlap them while max didnt lap them

[heady sonnet]

I don’t see “Hamilton wins” there, am I blind?

[jaunty cave]

Two very different things

[flint burrow]

I think even max knows the title should go to lewis

But you can't change it sadly

next season will be mazepin's

[jaunty cave]

I dont think so.

[flint burrow]

lmao

[formal kelp]

mazepin in the 2022 car 🔥

[flint burrow]

Mazepin the real winner

Hes 21 in standings

And there are 20 cars on the grid

That takes some real skill

[formal kelp]

mercedes gave mazepin covid so he couldnt crash into lewis today

[jaunty cave]

Another fcked up strategy

[flint burrow]

I guess max just got lucky

That's all

Its pretty unfair to win championships by luck

[jaunty cave]

But by crashing your rival is.. Ok

[flint burrow]

You talking bout max in monza?

[jaunty cave]

About ham in Silverstone.. That was The major diference

[flint burrow]

There is no difference

[jaunty cave]

About Bottas in hungary

[flint burrow]

Well its bottas fault not hams

lmao hams

[jaunty cave]

When you are talking about luck.. Hamilton could change his front wing during to red flag.. If red flag wasnt there he would be last...

[jaunty cave]

Still played well for him.

[opal galleon]

so much bias here but yeh yeh onto next season

[flint burrow]

What race are you talking about

[opal galleon]

UK

Only time when Lewis change front wing under red flagh

[flint burrow]

oh well yeah that's true

but max could change his tires by red flag in saudi arabia

which helped him alot

and yet he still lost

ahhh

[heady sonnet]

No

Imola

[flint burrow]

i think i just cant accept the fact that fia are so inconsistant

[heady sonnet]

He unlapped himself

[opal galleon]

That was not red flag

[jaunty cave]

It didnt outcome was same.

[sonic plank]

penalties are inconsistent not this bro. fia broke their own rule

[flint burrow]

True

[opal galleon]

It is what is is, hope for better in 2022

and Masi out

[flint burrow]

i Hope masi is out for 2022

also "that's motor racing" lmao

[opal galleon]

before 2022*

[jaunty cave]

They did but also they didnt.

[flint burrow]

Totto got rekt

[flint burrow]

True

We need better race director

Maybe an old F1 driver

Maybe kimi lol

Or alain prost

[opaque crest]

Just need someone to follow the rules and make them clear

[opal galleon]

Nothing cant really undo what has happen. But I do say its messed up that FIA brake their own rules and cant keep up a clean race. But yeh yeh it is what is is.

[flint burrow]

And also someone who knows what racing is.

[opaque crest]

Toto and Horner to be joint race directors!

[flint burrow]

no pls they would kill each other while standing in one room

[opal galleon]

Toto and Christian dont hate each other as peole think

off F1 they are very chill to each other

[opaque crest]

Sky have just said verdict should be in next half hour

Could then go to FIA Court of Appeal and then CAS if the teams choose

[jaunty cave]

They cant.

[opaque crest]

Sky have literally just said that's the process they'll follow

[sonic plank]

they will. no matter how much you want max to stay the winner. daylight robbery mate

[jaunty cave]

Read that last paragraph

48.8 wasnt broken so thats cleared.

[opaque crest]

Literally just listened to him on Sky Sports News. Your quote isn't everything they said

I recorded it for you but it won't let me share as its too big

[jaunty cave]

Well it doesnt matter what they said right. They can just speculate

[opaque crest]

It's not speculation when they're listing the options available to the teams 🤦🏼‍♂️

[tidal siren]

Mercedes just whining, it makes them look bad

[jaunty cave]

Like they did the whole season.

[opal galleon]

agreed there, but they do have the right to appeal.

[opaque crest]

Any team would be doing this. Thr FIA have made themselves the laughing stock

[chrome otter]

Mercedes made themselves the laughing stock. By making huges mistakes this race

They would be world champion if they just fitted soft tyres behind safety car

[flint burrow]

I think they thought the lapped cars wouldnt unlap themselves

[coarse shoal]

nah he would be at the end of the race

[opaque crest]

Not necessarily. Would have lost track position and no guarantee the race would have restarted because Masi might not have made the same decision

[opal galleon]

They are world championÆ

they won wcc xD

[chrome otter]

He always makes decisions to race if possible

[sonic plank]

100% agree, after they fire Masi, they need to fire James Vowles, head of strategy of merc, that guy lost lewis the race, the fkin clown he is

[opaque crest]

He went completely against what the FIA rules state.

[opal galleon]

Masi needs to go, been too much mistakes by him.

[tidal siren]

Toto is like "We do our talking on the track" well Toto when you have a rival that can actually possibly beat you, that's not enough. You gotta play the team strategy, gotta take every small opportunity like Red Bull did this season. I've never seen as good a teammate as Checo, the whole team deserves it

[chrome otter]

Do talking on track but dont want to race the last lap. Hahahaha

A race aint over untill the chequered flag

[opaque crest]

If RB were in their position you think it'd be any different?

Masi changing the rules screwed them over. They didn't stand a chance once he'd changed his mind

[chrome otter]

I think masi would have made same decision

[sonic plank]

then max would deserve to win the race, but in this case lewis does

you cant just change rules mid race

for entertainment purposes

[chrome otter]

Mercedes fans talking about changing of rules. Look how many rules have changed because of mercedes this year

[sonic plank]

"hey, no penalties this lap go ham bois

[formal kelp]

yall act like theres anything to be done here... lets say mercedes wins, what do they do? roll back the results 5 laps and say JK those laps never happened championship over?

rofl, its over, move on

[jaunty cave]

The rules was already there he didnt made up.

[opaque crest]

Not mid-race 😂.

Rules changed all the time but not during the race that clearly favour one team massively

[sonic plank]

you must be joking or deluded right? they banned partymode, they made floor changes which favoured redbull

[sonic plank]

link me the rule then

[chrome otter]

No mid season is the same right. The whole season is one big game

[jaunty cave]

I linked that 50 times i am not doing it again sorry

[opaque crest]

No it's not. You start a race with the rules there, everyone knows. Changing them mid-season is not the same as the individual races aren't affected

RB going to meet stewards in 10minutes to receive decision over 48.8

[jaunty cave]

Its already decided no penalty

[opaque crest]

Sorry meant 48.12 or whatever the other one is

[jaunty cave]

@opaque crest look.

[jaunty cave]

Yea but the outcome is obvious.

[opal galleon]

48.8 is close

just 48.12 now

[sonic plank]

rules are clear. first you let lapped cars overtake. then you wait a lap and SC comes into pits.
what happened this race:
lap 56 - Masi put out a warning that lapped cars cannot overtake - therefore 5 cars inbetween lewis and max
lap 57 - horner complains about this to Masi
lap 57 - masi lets only the 5 CARS overtake the SC who are between lewis and max, the rest of the lapped cars had to stay behind
lap 57 - oh SC coming in this lap btw
obvious clear bias and robbery and breaking their own rule

[jaunty cave]

You are still on this ypu clearly ignoring everything we said.

[opaque crest]

I know this, I've been saying this since it happened lol

[sonic plank]

yes masi has the power to overrule the rules but he did it from an entertainment standpoint and for max to win. it was obvious what was going to happen. an f2 car could overtake lewis with fresh softs

[opaque crest]

I don't even know why Merc and RB fans are arguing, the whole issue is FIA

[flint burrow]

True, but merc fans have right to be frustrated.

[opal galleon]

excatly but you cant deny max as a champion they did everything right. Mercedes got screwd over and they have the right to appeal so.

This is actually nothing but Masi for sure fired

[heady sonnet]

And again with the radio message. You do realize that the communication between Horner and Massi was BEFORE the time it was showed, so most likely lap 56?

[tender shell]

To be honest max must be pissed to win a championship with so much controversy ! Lewis was by far the better driver today from virtually start to finish until Masi broke the rules

[heady sonnet]

He’s gone

[sonic plank]

still it seemed it was influenced since first it was said lapped cars cannot overtake then suddenly end of lap 57 ONLY cars between max and lewis could reovertake to unlap themselves and conveniently SC came in

[heady sonnet]

I don’t seee him staying

[opaque crest]

Still team bosses shouldn't be lobying Masi like that. At best it looks bad, at worst it looks very dodgy

[heady sonnet]

Oh I fully agree

Same goes for Toto and his “don’t get a safety car out please” comment earlier

Or the complaints against Checo

[opaque crest]

Yep definitely. This needs to not happen at all next season

[opal galleon]

bye masi

[heady sonnet]

I’ve said it a few times today

Toto and Christian were the responsible ones for getting here

[tender shell]

Perez wasn’t fuelled to finish that’s why RB told him to pit and stop the car 😉

[heady sonnet]

And Masi for letting them do their influence on him

[frail osprey]

Lap 58 can be deemed invalid

[jaunty cave]

Prove!?

[formal kelp]

sure but thats even worse than how it ended up

[heady sonnet]

Won’t be deemed

[jaunty cave]

Cant be.

[opaque crest]

It can lol. Doesn't mean it's right but it can

[formal kelp]

put lewis and max in skip barber open wheelers and give them a 10 lap shootout for the title LOL

[heady sonnet]

The first sentence says it all

[frail osprey]

Yes it can.

[frail osprey]

Dont think it's worse than the sheer robbery that happened.

[jaunty cave]

KARMA

[heady sonnet]

Funny how for one thing they want it decides on the track and won’t protest, And a race later “ oh we want it decided off track”

Karma is a funny animal

[formal kelp]

robbing it the other way is just as bad, whos to say max wouldnt have passed the backmarkers on lap 58 or they wouldnt have smashed into lewis on lap 58 if they werent let thru

[frail osprey]

If it was the other way around youd be losing your head lol

[formal kelp]

it would be the end of F1 to reverse it lmao

[frail osprey]

But that's not conclusive, too many ifs.

[formal kelp]

exactly so u cant do anything except let the result stand

[jaunty cave]

not really i was in peace with that 10 laps to go i was ok with hams title..

[crude kiln]

Think he would had been more pissed to lose cuz Merc crashed him 2 races in a row, and cuz his tyre blew on a clear lead in Baku. Today he got some luck back.

[formal kelp]

undoing it is worse than leaving it

[sonic plank]

my download history btw. says all about FIA

https://gyazo.com/3b0a4c33f36b92d4a9ca61db90cbea13

[gentle terrace]

Did anyone here already discussed 15.3 of the rules book?

[frail osprey]

What is conclusive is that by the rules Hamilton would have followed the safety car during lap 58, regardless of who was let pass

[winter vale]

so I just read Merc's protests, and for the life of me during the race I couldn't figure out why Lewis slowed WAY down after the lapped cars passed the SC but still before the restart cuz on older tires why would he want Max closer. But there second protest explains it, Lewis was goading Max into passing him under the SC. And technically Max did, but would bet since he barely cleared Lewis's front wing and immediately slowed to a full car length behind Lewis, that protest isn't going to do anything

[jaunty cave]

More like hoe dumb you are

[opaque crest]

This has already been thrown out

[gentle terrace]

The one rule, which says that Race Director can overwrite the use of safety car? Thoughts?

[heady sonnet]

What is it ?

[jaunty cave]

15.3 e) ?

[formal kelp]

oh im sure the race director has force majeure to do what he thinks is proper to protect the race

so its over, move on

[gentle terrace]

Yep, this one

[jaunty cave]

Here is photo

[winter vale]

thanks! F1 news is slower for me (I'm in the USA and Sky Sports is region locked)

[crude kiln]

Watched half the F1 Post Race Show now and Buxton, Palmer and Aitkin didn't think FIA letting those cars pass was weird, they thought it was weird they didn't let them all pass sooner. And they also thought Max's move on Lewis at the start was fair and that Lewis should had given the position back.

[frail osprey]

Lewis will probably ask Merc to not appeal if result stands. He gets a lot of hate but hes shown a lot of class today

[formal kelp]

nothing will come of this all, theres no way to undo it that wont make it even worse than it already is... but continue arguing about rulebooks lmao

[opal galleon]

relax bois, Nothing gonna happen expect Masi fired.

[crude kiln]

His dad showed class as well towards Max and Jos. Was nice to see!

[jaunty cave]

Agree i didnt expert him to take this that calmly.

[winter vale]

I really liked that moment, Lewis's dad's congrats seemed really genuine and it's really nice to see some good sportsmanship in all the drama

[formal kelp]

jos is a vile human but lewis' dad seems like a good dude

[crude kiln]

True, felt very genuine! Hopefully they can feel that "hey, we have won so much these last years and today just wasn't our day." Toto doesn't seem to have that mindset tho 😂 He has no chill

[velvet robin]

Were about to get the verdict

[jaunty cave]

Money.... Sport is second

[opal galleon]

I hope its going to be max vs hamilton next year aswell to keep up the drama xD

[jaunty cave]

Ypu are not gonna like it

[formal kelp]

max vs george more like

[velvet robin]

Russell will be up there too

[formal kelp]

merc is gonna win the constructors next year by 400 pts lmao

[opal galleon]

As long as Lewis the driver1 its his show. And last I checked he got 2 more years. So not george right away.

[velvet robin]

Well see if FIA upholds their wrong decision

[opaque crest]

Hoping Ferrari and Mclaren will be up there too

Merc let them race at the start and then go with who's ahead

[opal galleon]

Sainz is too consistent and Leclerc is just a bit behind

[opaque crest]

Nico and Bottas have both said this

[crude kiln]

New cars. Might suit different drivers differently. VET and RAI became alot worse 2014 when these cars were introduced so we will see who will be the next era's version of them.

[opaque crest]

Too consistent? Isn't that a good thing?

[formal kelp]

sainz has been on like 8 F1 teams and hes always fast, wonder how good he could be if he stayed anywhere more than 2 years

[opal galleon]

Yeah it was? was it negativ?

[opaque crest]

Thought you were saying they wouldn't be up there, got confused lol

[opal galleon]

Those new cars are expected to be alot easier to overtake. I really hope that, so that we dont only get fastest cars overtake each other.

[crude kiln]

Yeah and it also feels like DRS has played it's part since teams have learned to counter it much better. So hopefully this new stuff helps!

[velvet robin]

I want everyone at the top

[jaunty cave]

Mercedes left Stewarts with no coments

[velvet robin]

I’m telling y’all rn Haas will finish at least 6th

[opal galleon]

they are too broke

[velvet robin]

Red Bull says not upheld

[velvet robin]

They saved all their money from this season…

All they need is to get it right first time

They’ve hired people from Ferrari

[opal galleon]

Max confirmed as WDC

[velvet robin]

Such a shame that such a talented driver will forever have an asterisk on his maiden title

He has a lot more to accomplish in his career

[limpid shard]

So he wins again 😉

[tribal vale]

19:02Daniel Moxon
SECOND PROTEST REJECTED
The FIA has rejected Mercedes' second protest over the result of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Mercedes may well appeal that and the drama could rumble on for several days.

But for now at least, Max Verstappen's maiden F1 title is safe and he will be able to go to bed, for the first time, as a world champion.

[velvet robin]

Who would they appeal to next

[crude kiln]

This just makes you sound like a salty City fan. Give it up.

[velvet robin]

I’m just saying the obvious as a racing fan lmao

[opal galleon]

I dont think Max is so happy about this either. Since he wants to prove that he wins without these kind of stuff. But either way Max is going to be champion. I dont think there is anything that can deny that.

[velvet robin]

FIA handed it to max on a silver platter.

[opaque crest]

Whoever won today would have an asterix next to this title

[jaunty cave]

Noone its over

[velvet robin]

I agree with this 1000%.

[crude kiln]

He was lucky today after having alot of bad luck earlier in the season.

[velvet robin]

And I agree with this too

[limpid shard]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-victory-smell-is-that-victory-i-smell-gif-13132961

[tribal vale]

To answer that:There is an appeals process, if Mercedes or Red Bull – the loser in this case – are not happy with the decision, then they have the option to go to the FIA's Court of Appeal.

"But the cut off for that is Thursday at the FIA's prize giving ceremony.

"Any appeal would have to be heard and decided upon by Thursday, because there is no recourse after the trophy has been handed over to the world champion."

[velvet robin]

Lucky is an understatement. The race today can be considered rigged

[velvet robin]

So well probs see Merc appeal soon

[jaunty cave]

Lol you wont stop

[tribal vale]

More than likely, unless Hamilton wants no part in it and talks them down

[crude kiln]

Why? They want to end races with racing and this wasn't the first time they done this.

[velvet robin]

Wouldn’t shock me

[tender shell]

It’s going to the courts 😂

[velvet robin]

Only letting 5 cars through, the ones in between max and Lewis

Masi knowingly gave max a huge advantage for the last lap with that

[tender shell]

FIA have rejected the protests

[velvet robin]

We can go back to the all or none if u want but

I’m just saying how I saw in relation to the rule book

[jaunty cave]

Read rules 15.3 e)

[crude kiln]

Yeah and as I said Buxton, Palmer and Aitken didn't see anything weird with that. They were wondering what took them so long so they all couldn't do it.

[velvet robin]

Link it please

[jaunty cave]

Here is photo

[velvet robin]

The weird thing is it clearly violated the .12 rule that was just rejected appeal

[tribal vale]

https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/110

[frail osprey]

This is the problem and has been all season, people blindly justifying wrong decisions to suit their agenda. No wonder FIA are comfortable dictating races when mindless people lap it up due to the outcome

[velvet robin]

What are you trying to get at with this

[velvet robin]

FIA was awful the whole season, and today was the worst.

[sonic plank]

its going to CAS

[velvet robin]

Wouldn’t shock me

[jaunty cave]

Just showing you all evidence they have. But you Want to ignore that again

[velvet robin]

I’m asking why you’ve sent that, it has nothing to do with the situation. If you’re saying race director has authority to change the rule Mercedes appealed today, what you sent does not say that at all.

[crude kiln]

My experience from what you are doing now thinking you're onto sth is that it will show there is some loophole you're missing and that you won't get the way you wanted 😅 I've been there too.

[velvet robin]

I’m trying to understand what you’re getting at

[jaunty cave]

It does.

[velvet robin]

Did u read the rules

[chrome otter]

You know it also states in the rules that the race director can override autorithy on how to use the safety car

[velvet robin]

It does not. It says he has power to control the timetable aka schedule, stopping cars, stopping practice or races etc, starting procedure, and the use of safety car.

[opal galleon]

Race director and overrule that safety car

[jaunty cave]

Just look at above kid full of evidence.

[formal kelp]

weird, race director has discretion to supersede rules to do what he thinks is in the best interest of the race... you were braindead if you thought this had a chance

[tribal vale]

Look here son... Play nice @jaunty cave 😂

[velvet robin]

It’s why it should keep going up

[velvet robin]

He’s already been muted and accused me of harassment. It is what it is

[crude kiln]

I sure did after last race where it said that Bottas broke rules under the SC, but then there seemed to have been loopholes. As I'm sure there are now as well.

[jaunty cave]

I do i dont ignore evidence cuz they are not convinient

[velvet robin]

Yes use of a safety car. Not letting 5 cars through to give Verstappen a huge advantage

[jaunty cave]

Its use of The safety are get over it.

[velvet robin]

Bottas broke rules. Another reason to get rid of masi and fix the FIA. Jeddah was nuts

[velvet robin]

I haven’t argued that the safety car wasn’t necessary though

You’re trying to put words in my mouth but are failing miserably

[heady sonnet]

Is it over?

[crude kiln]

And Svålly just showed you the loopholes @velvet robin . So give it a rest now and accept you won't get your wishes today.

[jaunty cave]

But we are not talking about that but how masi can use sc how he want.

[tribal vale]

Can we please not try to put anything in each others mouths? Thats....not sanitary

[jaunty cave]

He wont.

[velvet robin]

Those loopholes are just masis defense to his terrible decision.

And the any does not mean all

Ummm look at the highlighted line of 48.12 in upcoming photo

[opal galleon]

I am not paying attention whats happening

[velvet robin]

Last lapped car has passed leader

Which I believe would have been Schumacher?

[crude kiln]

It's not a new decision. And literally states there that they and the drivers have agreed on trying to finish races under green lights.

[velvet robin]

I agree finishing under green is the way to go, it’s the letting the 5 cars passed to give Verstappen a huge advantage is what’s wrong

[sonic plank]

hopefully the CAS wont be biased, and they use the rulebook as they should

[velvet robin]

You keep trying to say different things

[opal galleon]

Masi had the autority to overrule anything.

[velvet robin]

Masi is as smart as a squirrel

[jaunty cave]

Just wait till they officialy tell you what we are telling you for 2h now

[velvet robin]

I hope so…

[velvet robin]

You’re just a biased fan. Not talking to u anymore.

[sonic plank]

Masi needs to be fired. and James Vowles needs to be fired asap for not pitting lewis for fresher tyres under sc or vsc

[opaque crest]

Isn't this the issue? Why should 1 person have that authority? He's decided this title

[crude kiln]

And as I said that wasn't what was weird according to F1 Post Race Show. They more wondered why it took so long.

[jaunty cave]

Wait for it

[velvet robin]

We knew the FIA was going to stand by their decision. It’s a shame cause it’s a terrible decision

[opal galleon]

Idk mate, this has to go thru FIA court I guess

[velvet robin]

Integrity of F1 out the window

[opal galleon]

This is most likely go thru FIA court

[opaque crest]

I don't want it to go through the court, I want it done with

[crude kiln]

No. Lord Latifi did 😅

[velvet robin]

If it took so long to do it it’s either do it in full or not at all as the rule stated

[velvet robin]

Agreed

[opaque crest]

Masi needs to go and the FIA need to sort the rules before the new season

[velvet robin]

1000%

Especially with these new regulations coming in

[opaque crest]

Otherwise we'll get another s*** show decided off the track

[tribal vale]

Rule book looking like swiss cheese, not gonna lie

[jaunty cave]

Will you post fias report please

[velvet robin]

Facts

[crude kiln]

You are having tunnel vision now. People have already told you and posted the reasons for this.

[jaunty cave]

I dont know were ti find it

[opal galleon]

what post?

[velvet robin]

I’m having tunnel vision? Lmao

And the people who have told me I have proven wrong.

[tribal vale]

I was rooting for Verstappen.... but without all the additional drama 😂 We won't know anything until Thursday and with all the chaos this season I expect there to be quite a few "Come to Jesus" meetings

[velvet robin]

Stappen fans is like speaking to a wall

[opal galleon]

The case is done, but Mercedes has the right to appeal this to FIA court.

[velvet robin]

This title will have an asterisk on it forever. Such a shame. Masi out

[velvet robin]

I guarantee they will

[crude kiln]

Yes you aren't accepting any explanations and just going back to what you have read in ONE section of the rules.

[jaunty cave]

This kind

[velvet robin]

Which are the rules Mercedes appealed

So your point?

[tribal vale]

There are several other sections of the rules that contradict each other

[velvet robin]

And 15.3 does not say anything about changing other rules

It says he can put out a safety car and has jurisdiction over scheduling, stopping starting etc

[opal galleon]

But I already posted it?

why would you want me to post it again?

[opaque crest]

I'm done for tonight, going to do some of my own racing on F12021, see if the FIA is any better 😂

[velvet robin]

Rn F1 game FIA is much better de

[velvet robin]

Fr*

[opaque crest]

Keep it civil guys, no fighting! 😂

[jaunty cave]

I mean about the latest decision

[velvet robin]

@opal galleon post the 48.12

[opal galleon]

that us 48.12...

[jaunty cave]

Yea that

[velvet robin]

We all knew 48.8 was gonna be dismissed

You posted 48.8 lmao

[opal galleon]

my bad

[jaunty cave]

Read that thx.

[opal galleon]

I opend wrong do you know how many pdf files I got downloided

[velvet robin]

I did lmao and I never said 48.8 was a good one

Keep saying things like you’re smart but…

[opal galleon]

there whole 48.12

[jaunty cave]

Still no convinced? What more you want then official decision?

[velvet robin]

Was exhibit A there?

[velvet robin]

Everyone who is not a Verstappen fan knows the FIA messed up. Such a shame there will be an asterisk on this title, he’s so talented.

Masi has to go, FIA needs a wake up call

[jaunty cave]

Omg is this guy for real?

[opal galleon]

Just accept max as a champion. People cant do anything about FIA decisions so its over.

[velvet robin]

Omg is this guy for real????

[small vector]

MAX MAX MAX SUPER MAX MAX SUPER SUPER MAX MAX

[velvet robin]

Mercedes more than likely will appeal again. And anyone with a level head and a true racing fan knows the end of that race was rigged by masi

[wind aspen]

That Verstappen bloke is just going to favour his bum boy just leave it there but how can the director say cars not to be unlapped behind sc then change his mind? Also why wasn't Riccardo allowed to?

[velvet robin]

Mercedes is going to appeal

[small vector]

MAX MAX MAX SUPER MAX MAX SUPER SUPER MAX MAX

[sonic plank]

James Vowles needs to go. He cost so many points this year for Lewis

[opal galleon]

Nothing will happen, expect masi fired. So max is still going to be champion

[jaunty cave]

But outcome gonna be same.

[wind aspen]

Fluke win

[sonic plank]

MAX MAX MAX GIFTED WDC MAX MAX MAX

[small vector]

whats fluke

[tender shell]

Because they was behind max and they wanted max to win 😂

[small vector]

ok

bozo

[velvet robin]

Mercedes confirmed appealing

[small vector]

ok

[wind aspen]

Correct

[crude kiln]

No it won't, just as there wasn't on Liverpool's PL title. Stop with the salty talk 😅 And hope you can still have a good ebening!

[small vector]

i support max because he has a cooler song

[velvet robin]

Salty talk? Im just more level headed

Can actually read the rules and understand English

[wind aspen]

We are not talking songs here but a director messing around with the race

[velvet robin]

But yeah this isn’t done yet, Merc appealing again

[jaunty cave]

Woow that cockynest and egoism woow

[small vector]

🥶

[crude kiln]

Obviously not since you're obsessing over this.

[velvet robin]

Masi gave the race to max 100%

[sonic plank]

only max fans cant see Masi wanted max to win. it was obvious what was going to happen if he randomly broke FIA's own rule just to finish the race for 1 lap. 1 lap softs vs 40 lap old hards

[velvet robin]

It’s hard to talk to a brick wall

[velvet robin]

Bro you need severe help with your English

[crude kiln]

Exactly.

[sonic plank]

hopefully CAS are not blind

[velvet robin]

F1 has a real integrity problem right now, and with this being tons of fans first season watching, not a good look

[chrome otter]

Real classy to start about reading and understand a language. Haha. I am sure that the stewards can read and understand that aswell and they have spoken

[jaunty cave]

Dude you can see what reasoning they had.... Resort gonna be same.

[velvet robin]

He’s been going at me for hours now, it’s just deserved

[velvet robin]

You mean result. Lesson of the day

[small vector]

MAX MAX MAX SUPER MAX MAX SUPER SUPER MAX MAX

[velvet robin]

If he can’t write English he certainly can’t read it and understand the rules

[small vector]

yo he yo ho

[chrome otter]

Mate not all of us have English as first language so that’s abit nasty to point that out right. Just saying

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora will you finally punish him?

[velvet robin]

Cry about it

[velvet robin]

Cry about it. I’ve done nothing to ya

If you’re that paranoid about your English go learn it

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora and again
This is over The edge

[tender shell]

In my opinion what has happened today has brought the FIA into question and virtually all the rules as it comes down to interpretation of rules according to what’s been seen today ! Rule bending of the highest degree today 😬 shame to become champion amidst all this controversy

[velvet robin]

😢😢😢😢😢

[frail osprey]

I dont see how any rational racing fan can accept what happened. If you want to finish the race under the green flag then don't let just a handful of cars pass the safety car

[opal galleon]

Make me mod and I'll mute you all!!1

[velvet robin]

Agreed

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 3th

[sonic plank]

anyone who knows english and is not a donkey means that according to that written rule SC should have pitted in lap 58

[night vale]

Max is the best at this moment imo

[velvet robin]

This is what I’ve been saying

[velvet robin]

Tyrant

[velvet robin]

Yep

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 4th

[velvet robin]

Boo hoo

[wind aspen]

Why cant verstappen fans see he didn't win fairly

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 5th

[velvet robin]

Cause they’re biased as hell

[opal galleon]

why cant all braindead people clam down

[night vale]

he win fairly

[velvet robin]

Awww he’s learning to count

[sonic plank]

what a crybaby that guy. mommy that bad man said something bad to me. punish him

[velvet robin]

Precisely

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 6th

[velvet robin]

Intelligence levels shocking

[velvet robin]

7 8 9 10 you’ll get there eventually

[jaunty cave]

7th

[flint burrow]

LMAO

[lethal moon]

😖

[sonic plank]

classic woke s h i t. no accountability. playing the victim

[velvet robin]

Yepper

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora him aswell do you job thx.

[night vale]

someone think that Hamilton are better than Max?

[velvet robin]

When he got muted earlier he went into my DMs

[chrome otter]

Yea yea real mature to make fun of someone’s second language. Good job mate be proud

[velvet robin]

Today Hamilton was better than max

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 8th

[night vale]

only today

[velvet robin]

I’m so proud to be highly intelligent

[frail osprey]

Hamilton drove a perfect race and earned his lead, just for Masi to not only remove the advantage he earned, but put him in a HUGE disadvantage where he basically had no chance

[flint burrow]

Nah

[velvet robin]

Jeddah he was, a lot of races Lewis was

[velvet robin]

Yep

[chrome otter]

Nothing to do with intelligence let’s speak a langue that is not your first langue and let’s talk then.

[formal kelp]

90% of people are too dumb to understand F1, proud to be part of the 1%

[velvet robin]

Yessir!

[lethal moon]

Idk why they didn’t let through all the lapped cars only the 5 causing verstappen to not win

[jaunty cave]

but i talking calmly but you Were insulting me. So.

[velvet robin]

It really does. Plenty of people don’t understand reading the rules

[wide delta]

You missing 9% g

[velvet robin]

You haven’t talked calmly this whole time. And now you’re crying

[formal kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[velvet robin]

Go call momma big bad Pepe frog on discord

[frail osprey]

They shouldn't have let any pass the SC and let the race continue as it was

[small vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43HCYSXZ9GI

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 9th

[velvet robin]

Or they should have restarted and max had to pass the backmarkers

[wide delta]

I’ll take my leave then

[velvet robin]

You’re so good at counting I’m proud of you!

[flint burrow]

especially when max didnt lap those cars and lewis did.

[velvet robin]

Cmon you can say 10

[jaunty cave]

@mystic aurora 10th

[small vector]

Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max
Super super Max Max Max
Super Max Max

[velvet robin]

Yep

[mystic aurora]

@jaunty cave
Use <@&649310279968096308> when I'm not online

[velvet robin]

Keep it going

[lethal moon]

Yuh. I mean I’m a russel fan but as a Brit I was rooting for Hamilton

[opal galleon]

guys mercedes won, max won, its a win win both parties be happy take a drink if youre old enough

[mystic aurora]

This tagging is nonsense.
You both need time off

[velvet robin]

Nobody win today

[jaunty cave]

But you are now so please.

[velvet robin]

FIA is corrupt

[sharp sigil]

merc not happy

[small vector]

bruh

stop

[velvet robin]

Please do what lol

[chrome otter]

Max definitely won 🥇

World champion!!!!!

[lethal moon]

Yuh lol

[wide delta]

🧢

[flint burrow]

Not definitely....

[small vector]

max wasnt drinking champagne when he won. he was drinking mercedes tears

[sharp sigil]

greedy merc

[velvet robin]

Asterisk on this WDC forever

[frail osprey]

Exactly, it stinks of corruption and I wouldn't be surprised if betting companies follow this up for race fixing. Theres a lot of doors still to open because all we've had so far is FIA clearing themselves of wrong doing

[velvet robin]

Yeah it’s like Nixon and watergate lmao

Just give yourself a presidential pardon

[sharp sigil]

potentially even out of the stewards review

[velvet robin]

As it should

[night vale]

Just look at this
reddit.com/r/MaxVerstappen33/comments/raf1zc/new_rules/

[zenith oriole]

this sport is a joke for over 20 years since schumacher days lol... just scam over scam to make money

[sharp sigil]

if steward can't give a good explanation, it will go international court

[zenith oriole]

and ppl spend their time arguing on intrnet 😄

[jaunty cave]

And btw Mercedes didnt appeled

[velvet robin]

Merc Twitter?

[zenith oriole]

clow sport for clowns 😄

[formal kelp]

welcome to the internet you must be new here

[flint burrow]

That's just sad.

[lethal moon]

Yuh

[small vector]

agree

[flint burrow]

I Hope this goes to court

[small vector]

why

[velvet robin]

@sharp sigil where did u get that from

[sinful bronze]

@velvet robin has been muted for: 30 minutes
Reason: Under Investigation

[small vector]

super max is always getting scammed

[flint burrow]

LMAOOO

[sinful bronze]

@jaunty cave has been muted for: 30 minutes
Reason: Under Investigation

[zenith oriole]

merc got what they deserve for crying whole season.... it's just sad it's max who won and not someone else 😄

[sharp sigil]

if merc really gonna find lawyer trigger it off, only way merc wants to turn the result is not rely on steward

[small vector]

Max Max Max
Super Max

[flint burrow]

well i dunno how stewards wanna explain letting lapped cars go, its clearly against the rules.

it is what it is

[night vale]

Lewis is soo good but he is like 37 yo he is slowly leaving the stage, and max comes on

[cinder ore]

YESS VERSTAPPEN

[keen rock]

Yes Boys

Come on

[sharp sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/revyjw/motorsport_week_mercedes_are_currently_meeting_to/

[cinder ore]

It was so intense