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LETS GOOOO MAX FOR THE WIN
Mercedes just made a huge blunder
not sure why mercedes didnt pit earlier
Karma I guess
if they had
From a 8th champion just unbelievable
haha as theyre side by side in the last lap, announcers screaming, toto in the background " NO MICHAEL NOOOOOO" š¤£
FIA changing the rules on last race, only these cars allowed to unlap themselves
ofc
yeah that was weird
never seen that
ever
lets whatever clownshow plays out after this race
LH didn't deserve that, so cruel
lets see
merc has been bad with pit strategies this season, both with Hamilton refusing to pit when his engineers tell him to, and his engineers leaving him out too long
Yep investigation into why Lewis didnāt have to give back the position on the first lap.
Hey congrats on Mercedes on their constructors
The ones max needed to get out of the way
RED BULLFIA
No investigation, clearly forced off track lol
^
yeah very odd
2022 with car changes I'm interested to see if ferrari close the gap
Red Bull FIA fr fr
You're just mad
Yep dodgy stewards
feel bad for lewis
Funny that it changed from not unlapping themselves to these 5 allowed after Horner spoke to them
Same
Exactly
Brazil
like when i feel bad for lewis it must be a really messed up thing that happened lol
They legit just set up a 1v1 to make sure no other driver could impede the title fight
I meant there's none needed, it's clear you can't force people off track
Which was a total one sided fightā¦
look, i have to say i was going for max. but lewis was completely robbed. RedbullFia
ok but did kimi get dotd
the entire f1 is basically being held up cuz of lewis and max
yeah
Kimi def got it
I personally didn't care but having it won like that is ridiculous
Exactly
Neither deserved to win/lose that way
priorities lads, kimi is more important
The stewards are not biased but bloody inconsistent with each incident
kimi is the oldest f1 driver there
Hopefully next season the FIA actually follow the rules they set out. This season has been ridiculous with the decisions they have made.
sad that he had to retire
Thing is Mercedes will challenge this
saudi arabia š
And have a true argument
lewis actually shook max's hand, not sure i could do that right now lol
Mercedes messed up, Respect to max and red bull
id be finding people to murder
I don't know what they can do though. What can happen from a challenge to it?
Lewis should be hunting for Michael masi
disiplined
Ham interview
They could rewind to before safety car ended cause the lapped cars protocol wasnāt followed
Let see š
wtf1 will be starting it
FIA screwed up big time
Not just Saudi. And not just decisions with Max and Lewis
Agree, Merc should have done better on strategy but FIA messed up massively
LOL noone talking about sainz got P3
yeah i know
tsunoda got p4
sainz > leclerc
Mercedes couldnāt do anything different with strategy
sad they both got left out cuz of the title race
idk how to feel about this, it does feel like Hamilton got screwed but also I don't like the idea of a finishing the championship deciding final race of the season under a safety car either
The problem is only allowing 5 lapped cars through and not all of them
Sainz is just better
Then follow the rules. All unlapped cars have to unlap themselves or none
Thatās what the issue is
I think it was also politics. Perfect finalle⦠double the F1 value. It s all about the money
yeah
sainz is more consistent race pace wise while sharl is better in quali
True
Yep
Lewis is a champ.. whatever people say
idk but petronas wonāt keep it up considering they are a public company and malaysia needs money
after covid
True
They could ham had chance to pit in 2lap of vsc
Max was just better this year and was unlucky at other key points. He deserved a bit of luck. Worthy champion!!!
He didnāt though he was passing already
I don't get all the hate, just respect what the guy has done and what he's doing outside the sport as well
yeah me neither
they pay like 130+ mil in local currency to merc each year
and sainz is in front of leclerc in the championship š
Nono he was 18 behind do he world be still ahaead
Lewis was passed the pit lane already
Not the time thing
Max max super max
Guys, even if lewis won there would be still haters. Haters gonna hate and they're gonna hate non stop
No in 2lap of vsc play replay
Congrats to FIA
Lap 2 max was already closer than 14 seconds
they deserve a raise
Would have had track position
Now let's brace for all the crying and toxic comments on posts about max winning the championship š¤£
latifi driver of the day
No he wasnt watch replay
Hahahahahaha
Stpd monkey
mate,have u seen how aggresive he is
nvm im leaving
I watched the race. Max would have overtaken under VSC lap 2
yall are toxic as hell xd
Oh no you don't haha it won't work for me
No he wouldnt
nobody cares weeb, you're jist mad
He would have. Just saying the truth
bye weirdo
Bye toxic dude
Max is an aggressive driver, that can't be denied lol
Watch it again and get back to me
was it a good one? a proper one
bye noobs
so what? he's willing to take chances
hahahaga
Not necessarily a bad thing, it's when it's overly aggressive it becomes bad
sid
both are aggressive
go and explain it to anyone
I already watched it. Max would have overtaken under lap 2 VSC. And for safety car the protocols were violated for lapped cars
max is aggressive for sure, but so is lewis, and so are all the champs lol
can you leave already?
Cry in ur bedroom now
u cant be too passive and win title
albon in crowd
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Ww3 gonna start
ITS CALLED A MOTORRACE TOTO
what did he do @mystic aurora
LMAO
Include me in ww3, I'm still useful
lel its like masi wants to be murdered in his sleep by toto
Whatever mate maybe learning to count or smtng
Masi is hilarious when heās trying to calm down the principles. Great word choices!
Because the stewards set it up like that lol not following the rules just to have a last lap showdown for the spectacle
probably thinks he has a better chance getting away from toto than horner š¤£
Masi needs to follow the rules and stick to a decision if he doesn't want to explain himself
michael is sounds so sly and unconfident he knows what he did
VSC isnāt even the controversial event⦠itās what happened under the safety car that is bad
keep dreaming š¤£
And is why Lewis was robbed

What are you saying now ham fans say something
WOOO
yea but still was so exciting

Unfair tho it's not the rules
Ros this will be challenged by merc
last race lewis couldn't even overpass max and hit him
Say something man max won
Only 5 lapped cars allowed not all of them. Complete violation of the protocol m
FIA make up rules as they go. š
im a bigger ham fan now than i was at the beginning of this race lol how he is not just swinging on everyone i cant understand
Max brake tested him and complete misunderstanding but ok
Lewis is known for having a cool head
Max won it doesn't matter what u say now
Donāt be sad guys Michael record stays most important as well š
Mercedes going to challenge this whole race lmao. This isnāt over yet at all
brale test? even a truck driver can tell you he didnt brake test
Lewis is known for being the biggest sore loser I've ever seen
Especially unfair when max had no business winning this race I do deserve on the whole season but he doesn't here in Abu dhabi
agreed
Sure he tries to hide it but its so obvious
they changed to job description for Stewards to "make up whatever you want, then immediately forget everything you've decided whenever you want" š¤£š¤£
what do you mean, he was so calm after the race
Lewis can't take it lol loser
fia prob wanted all to pass but then saw it wouldnāt be enough ti,e
Lewis was so calm after this race
I think Toto is a more sore loser
They all are lol
so they stopped them and let them race for 1 lap
FIA only said 5, when its supposed to be all or none
It was a great season. Two very good drivers. I think the best driver won ā¦. this year. Lewis will probably win next years ⦠now he has a better number two beside him.
lewis took it professionally good sportsman
hello, is this the place where they gift WDC ?
There is no sore loser bouffon
can we stop showing kvyats baby momma on screen its lame and weird
Max took Kelly and Kvyat seat and took Lewis Champinship lol
Which is a violation of the rules by the FIA
I love this so much finally someone took the title from Mercedes
how wouldnt be angry though
I donāt blame Toto for being pissed
max is always calm after every race (maybe a bit exhausted. bit ham always acts like a diva when he wins
mr stealer lol
MR STEAL YO GURL
Max is less cool headed than Lewis
biggest weirdo. throwing a headset
I think next year Russell is gonna be contending as well. Will be even more intense with a 3 driver race!
Poor headset
Have you never spiked something out of anger?
It happens
Then dont let any pass. All or none, not x amount to give RB a free pass
Great for Honda too in their last F1 season.
This is Mercedes whole argument right here
no i dont have anger issies. unlike you and toto
i can imagine the celebrations all coming down to nothing when merc challenges and actually gets the deserved win
Which is a valid argument
imagine redbull falls off, p19 p20 next season hahahahahaha
Nothing to do anymore about it
Lmao donāt need anger issues to get royally upset at something
the thing is they prob wanted cars passed but went oh frick race gonna end lets race again
keep dreaming
Still thatās against the rules
hahaha i know will never happen
so you're telling me you cant control your emotions?
Deserved win lol
if they change this it basically invalidates FIA as an organization and theyll need a new governing body next year LUL
Whatever you ham fans says nothing matters now lol max won redbull won that's all that Matters now
Oh look Lewis stays on the stage to celebrate. Unlike someone else. š
I def control my emotions, everyone has a moment where they get super upset.
Not max's problem
This is going to the court lmao
Yes constructors but deserved?
definitely going to be some inter-team rivalry with Hamilton and Russell, and if the 2022 cars do allow for more parity, Sainz and Norris are gonna be in contention next year as well
I cuss when that happens not throwing stuff haha
yeah but not to break some random ass headset lmfao
Itās going to court so it really is Maxās problem rn
They are just better at engineering defiantly deserved
A ton of people have spiked something once in their life. Especially when youāre that competitive like Toto
LMAO COURT š¤£
Haha this guy is funny
what is max gonna do in court lol, its rb vs merc
You are Hamilton fan right?
mercedes hasnt had a mechanical failure in like 4 years and have made the best car of all time
Max won thats all that matters
none of the drivers are gonna do much
He is delucional
Let's be honest, they had millions of new viewers today, those viewers weren't coming back next year if race ended any other way
I think a headset is being thrown by gavi š
lowkey get it cuz there is money on the line n stuff but a headset?
Max would be put back if Merc wins the case
Its called racing let them race. Mercedes made mistake by not pitting
What else is he gonna spike a pirelli tire?
yes
welp formula 1s market cap just doubled
Merc never had the opportunity to pit
how would you even do that
You think Sainz over Leclerc? I'm not so sure
Are you ham fan?
that would be the funniest thing ever
You can pick up a tire and spike a tire lmao
Maybe they'll both be in it
Last I checked, Mercedes topped the table...
This guyš they had every opportunity
All those mechanics pick it up
Safety car call came before hamilton passed start finish
it'll just bounce lmao
I support Hamilton but wouldnāt have been pressed if Verstappen won if it was won fairly today
they at least had one, it;s undeniable
Headset bounced too
cuz that is easy to toss
Hamilton would have lost track position under the safety car
Masi is a joke
Heās not gonna spike anything else in that garage
I think Sainz is a better race day driver, LeClerc is a better qualifier. Personally I think LeClerc is a bit over-rated but he's talented for sure and I very well could be wrong about him
So thats the risk to take.
Be careful your phone doesnāt bounce! Great job max
You should seach for some help or medication
hes gonna spike max or something
No its not a risk lmao its just giving track position for the last lap
agreed
Yea True masi is a blody joke man
Fully agree. They are flawless at developing the car
Yo @mystic aurora rule 1????
Is it me or RedBull intentionally retired Perez just so they can clear a few meters from Max to Ham?
Raikkkkkie
better be kimi
Definitely
for who and what
lol dont interview jos jesus
I'm just doubtful about Ferrari's speed, im skeptical for their future for the next few years
BOYCOTT JOS
What an end, WE WANT KIMIIIIII
Just insulting people
who though
Max fans are bonkers
ā
just ban everyone is whag u are saying
Just tell people theyāre dumb when someone disagrees with them
Son of the day
both sides have a bunch of toxicity
Attack on mental
you talking about insulting whilst insulting the entire max fanbase š
Toxic
Major Jeff is kole he dont help you here.
Youāre insulting people directly
š Mick Schumacherās - son of the š MSC - battle with Latifi caused the safety car. I am sure the conspiracy theorist will want him to go to court too š¤¦āāļø
I am also happy it stays with Michael Schumacher the record š
yeah Ferrari has a larger climb, but I think McClaren could be right there in the constructors cup if the 2022 cars have more parity like they claim
@jaunty cave
I didnt.. :) ham fan
now who is toxic huh?
Nvm you didnāt delete lmfao
Me too
Yet you did and just got warned by Jeff
gavitron, u are claiming the opposite side is toxic while u fan the flame
I must have missed something, did it come home? š
Max was gifted it, FRB I mean FIA need to change its name and accept redbulls sponsorship publicly
Am I wrong when the whole fan base is saying cry cry cry
when
Really dont care about what you saying you are not moderĆ”tor to mÄ sice you Can accept that you Were wrong.
if there is a whole toxic fanbase, u dont go up to them and say f u
mercedes is a british company?
He is a moderator to everyone here lmao
I never said f u to anyone
"learn to read" im not named Verstappen33 are you blind?
Delirium lmao
CH calls, refugees changing decision. Unbelieavable They change decision by Redbull call!
I hope Ricciardo is fast, he deserves a title. Rooting for McLaren next year, just not Hamilton lol
That title has been safe for quite a while
qnyx you were here when max won
Learn to read that he was warned lmfaoooo
german actually, the racing team hq based in silverstone tho i think
True
I've got nothing to do with setting the rules mate.
u didnt say directly but indirectly u are arguing with them and just making them target their toxicity towards u
F1 ruined by lobby and Redbull calls over refrees
so? why would i care that he got warned?
So you agree theyāre toxic. Cool end of convo
I'm messing with you. Well deserved title over the season, it's stupid it came back to last race
You asked lmfao?
MAX MAX MAX SUPER MAX MAX MAX
Not to me i have 0 respect to him since ha has non to us
You clearly asked lmao
hey are you jeff from the pits, if so nice to meet ya
Jeff has no respect for anyone here?
Thatās interesting
McClaren became my favorite team this year, killed me that Norris got that slow puncture. Love Riccardo too, and he definitely deserves a title.
i have no respect for anyone here yall some whiny babies š¤£
@velvet robin being mad and toxic lmao
everyone is toxic, if ham won the ham fans would have been taunting the max fans now the opposite happened
Really dont care about what you saying you are nothing to me. Dont bother me again
Iām being mad and toxic? Youāre one to talk
@mystic aurora
Definitely not
Lmao has a problem with authority š¤£
OLLIEBOLLEN EN KAAS
wdym no lol, we have seen examples from previous races
straight up toxic
MAX IS DE BESTE
where both side just clash in a pool of toxicity
Mercedes made history with no technical issue in 4 years. They made the best car for a whole Era. Lewis will be rememberd as 7th times world champion, and he still got 2 more years with Mercedes. So he got atleast 2 more years to get that 8th. Respect to Max and Red Bull congrats for the WDC.
Fam stop it
bek houen rare
Biased lol
cheering for country= toxic? mad but k
Whatās toxic about hup Holland hup?
Ngl he was gonna be a 8 time but RBFIA
talking about yourself
max is a person not a country, yall are weird
Enjoying the dutch house music they are baring out at Yas Marina
I donāt know if u watched the race but FIA Violated the rules lmao
it was a joke
Likewise.
man
Allowed only 5 cars through instead of all
Max gonna sending Latifi a thank you present
im glad all sane ppl just left this useless conversation
We represent our Dutch sporters!
haha theyre showing it right nw
Time for the 2022 season now. Good article here https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/everything-we-know-about-the-2022-formula-1-season-drivers-cars-tracks-more/6868204/
It is very bad for the FIA that the radio is heard with Horner saying "you only need 1 racing lap" and then Masi changing his decision
100%
I donāt understand why only 5 cars
Itās all or none always has been the rule
every ham fan crying so hard rn
The title battle was really exciting, but racing behind wasnāt great this year. 2022 will be much better.
And it's not bad when Toto begged 2 times during the race not to put a safety car out?
or "Don't influence" while trying to influence?
if every car was equal and the fia unbased yeah
There wasnāt a need for a safety car with gio
Toto and Christian both deserve thi
But FIA broke their rules with actual safety car
CAP i think all ham fans are mad at masi rn
It's all bad and they shouldn't be allowed to do it. However a race changing decision like that whilst on radio to one team is very bad for their reputation
A title changing decision
for no reason. that one time the FIA is fair the ham fans cry
True. But they will more equal in 2022. You might actually see the Haas in Q2 next year.
How was this fair today lmao
Race directors had given a decision. "overlapped cars will stay!".
They Redbull calls, then decision changes specifically for cars between MW and LH ONLY! What a lobby power!
Please explain and provide rules evidence
Thatās the issue
š³
I can see haas being in Q3
This is karma for ALL that was given to Ham over the years. And please don't go with the "He never got FIA support", we've seen that quite a few times
Stupid fia
Nothing to do about it anymore the decision has been made and winner has been decided
I'm a racing fan and have said before, I don't mind who won but that decision has decided a whole title
F*** max
This is where Iām at
Not going to watch f1 ever again
Lewis was robbed
I thought you said racing would be better in 2022, there is nothing good about Mazepin in Q2 š¤£š¤£
Stole the title from ham
FIA makes everything unfair ngl
Thats my fella
F*** you, itās great racing, best season we have had since 2016
Find this laughable, "everything he's been given"
go ahead and cry. but arguing with you is impossible.
"It is hard to win an argument against a smart person. But impossible against a dumb person"
Max donāt deserve it because he only won it because of stupid race control
they pushed each other to their absolute limits
So you call yourself a dumb person lol. Iāve provided evidence of rules being broken. Youāve just said cry Lewis cry
I think the COVID thing today was a ruse I just thought I canāt take being stuffed my Mick again.
He does deserve it very much, anyone able to stay with Lewis in a worse car deserves it
ham won cuz of the FIA so many times
How Redbull changing race director's decisions for specifically how they wish!
Yeah and he didnāt get more podiums Iām outtie go max haha
Any true racing fan would say that decision was terrible and should not be what a title is based on
Yep
Who said Red Bull Changed fia decisions
i like how you're trying so hard to be toxic
Merc have done the same thing
No evidence they did that
Yes that last lap decision on lapped cars was really stupid by race control
āToto, itās called a motorraceā beats āToto, I have a feeling we are not in kansas anymoreā
red bull didnt specifically ask
facts
or influence
Yet Iām not. Iām proving things and ur not
still who cares
How can race control change their decision in a split second
No evidence but decision made, "Horner on radio saying you only need 1 lap," decision changed
Me
Lets be happy Schumacher still holds te record. š
A lot of people
I said 1st decision was "overlapped cars will stay"
Then Redbull calls decision changed for only 2 overllaped cars has to pass!!
the real answer is "because they answer to no one, so they can do whatever they want"
This one shouldnāt happen
Terrible lobby power, sorry
was talking to gavatron but ok š
They cannot change their decision
So u were proved wrong lol
Idiot Red Bull and max and fia
wdym
To be fair they could have moved Latifiās car quicker than they did. If that was the case ā¦. Max still would have won.
Not going to watch f1 ever again
Rico Verhoeven is there 2
sir how old are you
Thats a bit Hard ngl
Rico kan hamilton helemaal slopen
maybe with michael masi yes
-1 crazy person
FIA so obviously has to ask Redbull team before giving any decision.
Because if Redbul superiors doesn't like they change anyways!!
Why they changed decision for overlapped cars
I donāt see a problem with what they did, fia was distracted on cleaning up car. Once they cleaned up they looked into the situation further and decided to change their decision
Thing is the rule is all or none
For lapped cars
yes and horner was questioing if it was all or none, not five
Red Bull only won today because of FIA decision. Merc had better pace.
That's what's annoying. They wouldn't have been in it without the FIA decision
They only let 5 through
race is over, max won. now stop arguing it wont change anything
Well Michael can do whatever he wants tho, as long as it is safe to the drivers
Sid gets it
yeah but horner didnt suggest 5
Would have been boring if race would have ended with safety car
I see it as a discussion of the rules, I'm not arguing
Yea thats why FIA robbed Lewis today
This argument gonna continue till Christmas
I donāt see a world where merc doesnāt challenge
FIA robbed max almost every race
Or maybe even after Christmas
Exactly! they give decision for only 2 overlapped cars!
Maybe Mercedes would call LH for pits.
But they follow rules, due to rules there are overlapped cars already, there's only few laps left THUS they keep him out!
Or maybe even after the 2022 season LMAO
Name a lot
Long past that, this will be discussed for years over what should have happened
They couldnāt ever pit Hamilton cause track position
Examples?
Legally Mercedes can get it changed if what masi did was illegal only letting 5 cars through when the rules state either All or none not 5
Wait did the RB guy in interview say they had a quicker car
He did violate the rules so yeah
People will come up with stupid and ridiculous ideas over the years
nah he said merc did
Ok I misheard
On who should've really won the championship
np
fia = the ultimate champion decider
ima go now. stay mad you dumb ham fans š
he will have to give out a statement before leaving š
I can't see how Masi can keep his job. Ever since Brazil they've made ridiculous decisions
nah, Masi isn't going anywhere
maybe he'll change it just before? lamo
I'm glad I'm a Ferrari fan, imagine being an rb or Merc fan and getting sandwiched between the heat of the 2 fanbases
Ferrari fans are chilll
Title fight only became this close since Mercs crashed Max in Silverstone and Hungary. Worth remembering.
Tifosi is chilllll
masi did a great job in having equal on points going into final lol
atleast the FIA doesnt completely screw over those teams
Masi doesn't control the Stewards, they're each independent, and really the Stewards have more power cuz once they decide to get involved Masi can't change anything about what they decide
lmao when ferrari is fighting at front, fia loves them the most
Nothing crazy about McLaren and Ferrari battle
It's all chillll
masi was trying to get involved in the past few races, and not letting the stewards do their work.
You have to agree masi has made some dam right awful decisions that have favoured redbull alot this year, that's what people are mad at lol
Imagine during a football match rules changing, Redbull club doesnt like score and refree shows a purple card to Mercedes team then Redbull win!
It is same!
There are overlapped cars, they say overlapped cars will stay. OK fine bravo.
Then CH calls for Redbull, PUFF magic happens and overlapped cars are clenead for only which cars needed to be cleaned ā
purple??
masi doesnt want race to go to stewards, cuz that only result in more penaly points
This is what Red Bullās argument will be
do you even know the cards?
šÆ Masi has made a bunch of bad calls this year, so have the stewards, I'm definitely not defending the jobs they've done
Football and f1 its two difrent things you know
Not all overlapped cars like the rules state it was only 5 not all or none like the rule says
This gonna get to the point where an rb fan kills a Merc fan or the other way around in real life
and so u didnt see how sometimes merc is favoured?
Exactly since 1950s when only 5 cars cleaned from overlapping!
First time, thats what I say as a purple card
Guys chill it's already passed we can't do anything to change the results lmao

they've made calls that favored both, and have been consistently inconsistent

im confused, sorry
now the only thing is wait for an explanation from race control
merc will say no to that
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no one wud want the race to end under sc, thats plain stupid. but the unlapped cars wer the problem, explain that part
dotd for kimi š„°š„°
they cud have released them a lap earlier
rb complained that lap 56 why still not unlapping cars
if unlap happened a lap earlier, then we will have last lap race without problem
The only reason I rooted for Max is because I wanted him to win his first wdc
Exactly, rules were broken.
If all lapped cars passed then the race would have pretty much ended by the time they all passed, if none passed then Max wouldn't have clear track to catch Lewis.
They broke rules to create a spectacle and therefore decide the title. It's a farce
all part of the plan to bring in new fans
no doubt
should have allowed unlap a lap earlier, then no problem wud have happened
And Toto complaied a few times before that "Please no safety cars" like what? š Look, I understand you are frustrated that this time FIA didn't rule in your favor, like it has happened very frequently before. Now you are on the receiving end of a similar situation and you are pissed.
It's been an exciting season, that's all I'm gonna say
max only needs a corner to overtake
safety car would have do merc better than this restart lmao
excited for 2022
*assisted BY FIA
If lewis won the championship:
RB FANS: It's all because of the stupid decision in the lap 1 incident
Max won the race:
Merc fans: It's all because of unlapping the bars
merc should have pitted in the vsc (kimi crash
people stop being so bias, it was a great season be respectful
Cars*
Unlapping always happens so its only normal that is happens now.
even with 5s penalty he would have won
merc has a very tight but still enough pit window under that vsc
Toto can only cry there!
Since 1950s, first time ever one team calls director and can change an ALREADY given decision.
First decision was "Overlapped cars stay"
Then phone rings. "yes my dear christian horner, what can I do for you?" "Clear only 5 overlapped cars".
DONE
What a crazy lobbly power
I think it was giving back the position more than a time penalty
Lapped cars always allowed to overtake safety car. Would be stupud if it wasnt now
think about it they could have cleared ANY five cars, but they chose the ones most effective in the vattle between max and ham
Oh really? And the diagrams with emails? Or constant moaning on fia radio (by both Christian and Toto)
lapped cars are allowed to overtake then you have another lap to let them recover
imgaine not winning L bozo
sad hamilton fans on twitter Lol
the track was almost clear a lap earlier, really i didnt see why not start unlapping after lap 56
imagine*
No crying no bashing tables no TV's punched Williams fans are all MVP
no bashing headsets
well yeah
Shout-out to Williams and Haas fans
not much to get angry about really
gunther is the best
Yes
gotta wait till 2022
imagine being Latifi now
gunthers tweets are so good
Goatifi the best
latifi the goat!
going to race this gp event with latifi/schu
man that was a crazy race
my final verdict.
2021 F1 World Championship is robbed.
ma - fia
Why was checo retired from the race
no, its not mafia merc got robbed lmao
They got what they deserved, both toto and Christian just forced it to go to this
Probs forced to retire to give max as much room
i think it was to help max
Oh
im confused why Hamilton didnt change his wheels
tires
Hamilton would have lost track position
You do realize that radio is not live right?
ham should have pitted for S on safety car
The roar of the dutch fans when the SC ended hyped me so much
even as 2nd he would have over took max
Ham would have lost track position if he pitted on safety car
Ham was in the positon to not pit
hes better with hards though right?
@zenith heath gg mate
That Horner āinfluenceā happened probably a lap or two earlier
Had Ham pitted the first time to cover
He would have easily won
Ham would have lost track position first time too
Not that much certainly
Anytime ham could have pitted would have resulted in losing track position
He was 18 ahead and under vsc itās 14 sec put
But first,
Let's say goodbye to the 13 inch tires,
Kimi and Antonio,
And The current F1 car design.
I'll miss the current design so much
huge
Surprised
is there a limit before the championship can no longer be changed?
I'm gonna cry when they reveal the new 2022 car, knowing that the current design will never be raved again
do they stream the race here on this server?
āWe couldnāt win on the track so letās get this done the off-track methodā
Lemaw
You know what I liked about Lewis after the race?
Nothing will change. Its racing if there is a way to race let them race
He actually took it well and with dignity
he was a good sport
Merc can win this challenge
hi tom
expected him to be extremely pissed
What Toto is doing is what I hate about him
the only time merc had pit window was the vsc
Toto and Christian are just as bad as each other
Was there any donuts done after the race?
Toto is sore loser. Hamilton actually took is well. Respect to him.
Why
Perfect finish - crying lullu š¤£š¤£ & the right man championš
Max gonna receive the hate as same as Vettel did when he was in his prime
cuz everyone is equally shocked on the result? ham sat in his cockpit for like 5mins
Thanks...but it was not me lol
But soon people gonna start to chill out and love max as they love Vettel now
i dont think so. Max earned way too many fans over the yrs
And too many haters too
In this chatroom you can see haters
Yeahā¦
From the FIA rule book: āOnce the last lapped car has passed the leader, the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.ā They ONLY let the cars between Max and Lewis through and then started the race immediately on the same lap, not āthe following lapā
Soooo question @opaque crest
see the comments under posts. F1 post Max: "Super Max" everywhere
F1 post Ham: "A Ham fan accouint"
Doubt that. Vettel was real arrogant in RB and treated both his teammate and the team bad often š
Yeah this is why merc can win appeal
If merc was to win appeal theyād have to switch Hamilton and Verstappen right
What else would he say when heās going to be in Mercedes? š
Hmm I might be wrong
They won't win this in their appeal to FIA however could take it to Court of Arbitration for Sport
And if they win that
Time penalty for a mistake they did? You canāt be serious
Cause they will take it that far
yes thats a key difference. Max never really treated the second driver bad like webber. He mentioned checo multiple times after the race
They'd have to reset the standings to before safety car ended
They canāt go racing again so itās a way to switch the order
It's real nice to see how VET has matured tho. Going from the most disliked to maybe the most liked driver on the grid.
Yes
How long would this type of arbitration take
aint happening
Has it happened before
most liked cuz Kimi is now retired š
Agree, I didn't like Vettel and now I do
It very well can tho
Yes, that would mean that the stewards can come in their room 5 secs after race has started⦠š
Toto will not sleep tonight
Yea but how likely is it for something to actually happen.....
Lol
How long would arbitration take
for going back to the result a lap earlier isnt in the rule too. How do u know what could have happened if they restart the race correctly
No idea
Again, hoping for a win āthe second wayā is pure class š
they're not gonna change the decision, Merc will appeal (justifiably) but there is no way they are going to change the race outcome
If they restarted race correctly one of 2 things would happen
It's been done before, if a race can't be finished go back to last full lap
Max would have to pass all the back markers then get to Hamilton
OR race ends under safety car letting all the lapped cars through
but this one finished "properly"
Anyways I think max deserved the world title
And by all I mean all not 5
Yeah
We can argue all day of who deserved what but we can agree Lewis was robbed today by the FIA
Properly not meaning following rules then?
Especially what happened in great Britain, he deserved it
Agree, they wont overturn. A huge * next to MV's solitary title though.
Merc will take this all the way 100%
Let me ask you something - how many laps did Max lead this season despite everything?
We can argue about the whole season stuff, but can we just agree the FIA screwed Lewis over today
Itās awful to see a championship battle end like that
Didn't one driver say "the only lap you lead that matters is the final one?"
like 80%
how the turn tables
This is all irrelevant, we can all pick put incidents or stats, but the fact remains that the title was won on a panel decision.
A wrong panel decision at that lol
Future merc driver⦠what was he going to say but that š
Exactly. And Webber was never really a threat to Vetter and still he treated him bad and went against the team as well etc. Remember how he had a race in the bag but car was critical or sth so they told him to just bring it home. And then he still did fastest lap for no reason and answered "satisfaction..." in a real cocky way when asked by the team why he did that š
as tho they didnt screw max before
No matter who is your favourite driver, I think FIA will need to take a look at how regulations and penalties are explained. This season has had too many inconsistent decisions
That's the issue, wasn't decided on racing
As I said Lewis was robbed today, im ignoring all other race days this season
Huge asterisk next to this title win
Yea cuz is convinient to you.
ur simply viewing this race more importantly only becuz it decided the champion. Silverstone, hungary all races are equal max should have gained over 50pts before summer break
Baku?
and thats ur problem all races are the same
And that 10s for ham in Silverstone was joke
Imola?
I agree on that. Hamilton was the top driver this race. For the championship I follow Alonso with his remark that Mercedes ought to win the constructors title and Max the drivers title
They actually followed the rules there unlike today and Brazil lol
Where Ham unlapped himself repaired car and ended up 2nd?
He won in Britain
Max deserved the title this season it just shouldn't have been decided on that decision
Ok what about todays 1st lap and ham gaining a lasting advantage
Brake testing is 30s Max got 10s. He shouldn't even have been level today lol
grabs popcorn
Karma in the end imo. Merc crashed VER in both Silverstone and Hungary. Would had been over a long time ago if not. Merc shouldn't even have been this close. They reached this point by crashing Max and whining to FIA so RB had to change their previously approved rear wing and lost alof of pace, and they even listened to Merc in what slowed RB's pit stops.
So total karma imo today.
He didn't and was forced off the track lol
exactly, max follows his teams supports teammates as well. Vet at that time was not mature (was only 3yrs into f1, whereas max is not over 5yrs and had Dani as his first teammate helped a lot
Iām talking even before that. As itās ridiculous how conveniently people are interpreting decisions
Sure he didnt it was 0.6 before that overtake and 1.6 after that...
Not on my screens it wasn't lol
Heck even today
Yea. If there is a way to race let them race.
Ham fans whining weeks for Brazil and the No penalty
And now saying itās totally fine to cut a corner like that
If they change this around they will lose so much support for the sport.
Imagine if all f1 fans are like kimi
"max is the new champion
F1 fans: Ok nice
Everyone agrees on each other and no arguments spark
Ou sure, you are gonna be ham fan aawell
the driver title should have well been over if it wasnt fia favouring merc towards the second half of season
laps lead talked
How many times have I got to say I'm neutral and didn't care who won today?!
So yeah they didnāt follow protocols
I just base my points on facts and how I see each situation
Clearly you do.
and also a key difference, RB strategist never really make a compromised bad decision. Just look at merc, how this team screwed itself over multiple times
No, I care HOW it was won not WHO won it
@glad zephyr thank u for sending the rules
They should chance that whole overtake thingy and just have the lapped drivers drive through the pitlane. And drivers that are lapped multiple times must stop and wait at their boxes
Loosey goosey
Woof woof
Harr harr
At last
Argument stopped
But the argument stopped here only,
who knows what's going on with other sites
Probably like a zombie apocalypse on other sites lmao
You are so despreat
Especially facebook
Desperate but carry on. He posted the rules and itās clear the FIA messed up big time
And it ended up giving Verstappen a massive advantage for the last lap
@glad zephyr can u send 48.8
FIA's fault noone pushed that to that decision. So i cant see the future where max isnt champion
confirmed MERC protesting due to breaches of 48.8 and 48.12
I can def see a future where it gets overturned, as a clear mistake in the rules resulted in changing an entire outcome
@glad zephyr or the link where u got the page
The only grey area is that RB could argue that Max could have caught Lewis if no cars unlapped
Thats is only thing you got left but you shouldnt stick to it...
Idc who wins I want it to be won fairly
That would have been hard in itself with all the backmarkers on restart
Sure you dont care... Lmao and if you are looking for fair maybe you should check The whole season not just this race.
Verstappen may have violated 48.8 but merc has more of a gripe with 48.12
Verstappen did put nose ahead at one point but barely
Iām just reading the rules bro
Verstappen didnt violated anything lmao
But he still could have, whilst that arguement is there it's hard to overturn
He passed Hamilton barely under safety car
Merc def has an argument solely cause the rules were violated, whether max would catch or not is not what theyāre going at
And FIA Violated their own rule 12
xD go over all decision made in 2021 season and then talk. :))) its consistently inconsistent. So....
which is why the arbitration may help merc
What is the issue here? I've seen multiple races where all cars don't get to unlap themselves. If that's the issue.
Idc what happened earlier in the season. Iām talking about today
Only 5 were allowed to unlap themselves
Not all or none
Sure you dont care :)
The result is done, idk why people still argue
tbh, even IF Mercedes wins the appeal, I don't think Lewis will enjoy it. It was a wrong decision, but it can't be undone
And? Is the rule that either all or none should?
Let him be he is little despreat .
Vettel
Itās desperate but Iām just reading the rules lol
Nice 
I donāt think anyone enjoys that it went to this
You reading only what you want :)
I do its called KARMA.
Read 48.8 and especially 48.12⦠I donāt know what you are saying is wrong
the race should have ended under safety car, sad, but true
Youāre biased out of ur mind @jaunty cave
all Max fans will be biased š
Rules tend to be pretty up for interpretation tho š What has the experts on F1 post race show said?
Maybe but karma is still here.
It should have. The two ways it should have ended are under safety car with all cars passed, OR starting with as is and verstappen has to pass backmarkers
wait it says here it was an breach? what type of article has been breach?
They dont know
Can understand why Merc are protesting as they've gone against the rules, not sure anything will change
They havenāt said anything cause theyāre just trying to celebrate whatās going on. George Russel already tweeted
48.8 and 48.12
48.12 is the big one
48.8 nothing will happen, don't know why they're bothering tbh
Yeah but what breach is it all about?
RUS is pretty biased tho as we've seen before š
The lapped cars
Its not been clarified on the document
48.12 it clarifies it specifically
Only allowing 5 lapped cars to unlap themselves instead of all
They let 5 cars through, when itās supposed to be all or none
And itās especially weird that it was the 5 cars between Verstappen and Hamilton
Rules say, "once ALL cars have unlapped themselves, safety car will come in the FOLLOWING lap"
Really handed Verstappen the chip
Also safety car came in on same lap they were unlapping themselves
this is how it's going to go, Merc will appeal, The will rule that mistake was made, MM will be fired/quit, Max wins
If they rule mistake made Lewis is champion
Like Sid said earlier itāll probably escalate to arbitration
tbh, I'm even sure that Lewis wouldn't even want to win like this
Nobody should want to win like this
Still FIA cant punished someone for their mistakes.. They did a lot of is throught year...
Guys, just read the rules OMG. They did what is in the rules book
Especially a super talented hard racer like max
But they didnāt
@velvet robin they did
Max still wins I dont see how this is an ewffect
They really didn't š¤£
Read 48.12 and get back to me
Are you sure. After what he done in Silverstone ań podium and after race?
Yeah imagine winning by crashing rival in 2 races and then by getting last race overturned š Not sure I'd like that either.
Instead of max being right behind Lewis he would have to pass 5 cars after the restart
They allowed all cars to unlap themselves and then started racing the following lap?
Or the race would have ended under safety car
As long lewis didnt make a create mode its fine
Either team won't want to win like this, they'll always be a * next to Maxs 1st win because of FIA decision and if it gets overturned it'll be the same for Lewis
Lapped cars always overtake. If they turn this around it will be a joke to the sport.
They all didnāt overtake thoufh
Itās an all or none rule
Yes, ALL of them do. And then the safety car comes in the NEXT lap
There was only one lap left and they wanted a race lap
I still cant see the problem here?
I understand why they've done it but if teams base decisions on rules that then aren't followed
What is the problem and what is it being talked about?
Race would have ended under safety car or Max would have had to pass 5 cars before getting to Lewis
There is a problƩm but its fIA's problƩm so all good.
But with the protest what can happen
Masi said lapped cars wouldn't overtake, Horner spoke to him and then the 5 between Lewis and Max were allowed to unlap and safety car came in straight away
Agree
48.8 is a reach
That's a stupid protest, can't understand that at all
But 48.12 they have a super argument for
They donāt
What u mean they donāt lol
Merc will feel robbed, of course they will protest anything they can. It was indeed a robbery too
But if Mercedesā protest turns out correct
Read the rules theyāre posted above
They arenāt gonna give them the win
They shouldnāt feel robbed
They def can give them the win
Max deserves this season way more
Read the rules before being biased
Whole season donāt matter rn weāre talking about the incident that just happened
How, itās not Red Bulls fault and Red Bull can argue that there was a chance Mercedesā car would have failed and had to retire
Read 48.12 and tell me that FIA didnāt do it wrong
Mate that was daylight robbery, they gave Hamilton no chance in favour of a spectacle by breaking rules
Thatās an impractical argument
Yes they did cus otherwise the race would end on a yellow flag
They canāt only allow 5 cars
Wow what a last race ending on safety. At
Which also happen to be the 5 cars between max and Lewis
The FIA made up a rule for the final lap. All season long they just make it up as they go instead of sticking to what they have written.
Itās awful
The race canāt end on a safety car
But you can't change rules on circumstances š¤£
It can
we can discuss this all day, and still not agree, in the end, we don't need to worry anymore.
Looking at this event, Lewis was robbed, the end. Grats to Max.
But instead of doing what they did they should have just had max have to overtake the backmarkers under racing
We wouldnāt have this problem
Any maps have more then 9 laps
Look ań this :)
Yes @jaunty cave thatās the rule that the FIA broke
Wow now they are looking at max going in front of Lewis behind the safety which is a time penalty usually š®
Noone talks to you... You cant see clear
U cant just choose specific cars which also end up being the difference between 1st and second, giving Verstappen the title on a silver plate
Desperate attempts
Read 48.12
Really dont care about what you saying you are TOP bais
They wont hand the championsship to Lewis
Reading the rules is biased huh
Mate he's not, he's following the rules lol
I wouldnāt put it past them, they just handed it to max
Stop bothering me thx.
We've just quoted the rules
I cant see how mercedes can win this case. Like its FIA
Theyāll go above FIA to full sports arbitration
I dont you are answering you when noone cares about you.
Stewards probably wonāt overwrite micheal masi
You answer me, others answer me
And itlll end the same way
Made 245 flags already down to 200 cant seem to catch a win
are you a max fan? @tacit acorn
Stewards wonāt but merc will bring this to highest level of sport
Check respective channels this is for real F1 races
if yes, it's probably Karma š
Yea they are gonna live up to their reputation full your of tears.
English please
And I thought you were done talking to me
RB would do exactly the same. Any team in that situation would
After hopping all up in my DMs
@velvet robin stop interacting with this troll lol
@slender mantle a max fan as of driver? I dont think he's my highest upgraded
Iāve tried teaching him English
@gusty sentinel please check it.
I already checked your English was wrong, donāt worry about it
Max or Lewis whatever anyway. We had such a great Season.
From what I see michael gonna lose his job but I think max still gonna be the champion
Dude go clear you head and get back to me... I didnt said anything about Mercedes being wrong...
It depends on how high merc goes with appeals